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Whether studying the issue in the classroom or conversing in a rum shop the amount and timing of the implementation of a national minimum wage generates robust discussion in any country. Pros and cons are easy to find on both sides of the contentious issue.

The Barbados government some suggest are moving like the proverbial bull in a china shop to implement a minimum wage of $8.50, up from $6.25 with security guards to get $9.25 to take effect on All Fools Day 2021. The trade unions are saying it is too low and it should be implemented without delay. Some in the private sector suggest it is too high and the date of introduction is too aggressive.

This government’s decision to increase the minimum wage is commendable and long overdue. The evidence support in the last 5 years there has been significant upward movement in the rate of inflation and the Retail Price Index supports Barbados being an expensive place to live.

The concern by parties of the dispassionate kind entering the debate is not the amount of the minimum wage being introduced but its timing. Moving from $6.25 to $8.50 is significant. Its introduction must be weighed against how the market is likely to respond. Unfortunately this is an unknown. After more than 10 years of a struggling economy many businesses are operating with depleted cashflows. Bear in mind COVID 19 would have exacerbated stress to the profit and loss of many businesses. It is easy for some to sit in the armchair and make the uninformed assumption that all businesses make money. Many operate at the margins.

On the biscuit and cheese side of the discussion, the data supports those earning at a subsistence level must be experiencing an enormous challenge. The obvious position is that a caring society must find ways to support the most vulnerable. The blogmaster will not join the politically motivated and uninformed crews by shouting the minimum wage should be hiked to $10.00 and to hell with considering the consequences. Many debating the issue are unaware this is a debate raging in many countries including the most developed.

It may be useful for the calculus used by the technicians to be made public. The majority of Barbadians will not understand it but it make help to deflate the emotional arguments that a national minimum wage amount is not determined by pulling from a hat.

It seems the majority of opinion from the private sector is that the timing is bad given the vagaries of market of the last 13 years and the consequential negative impact. From the view of trade unions and under-represented workers, now is the best time because of the current state of things.

In is against this background the government has had to make a tough decision.

The blogmaster is always amused when decisions – as in this case moving forward with the implementation of a minimum wage is made – several interest groups will make themselves heard post facto. What is the purpose of the tripartite arrangement (Social Partnership) we beat our chest again? The discord the many dissenting views must cause the public does not help to inflate confidence into the Barbados space. In a situation like this why the social partnership could not have agreed to a communique registering the different concerns after discussing government’s decision to move ahead? It seems all issues in the country have to be resolved after a predictable adversarial process. Historically this has not been the Barbados way.

Whether the government folds to the request of private sector to suspend the hike in minimum wage or not, there is a problem to solve.

How do we (society) protect the vulnerable and marginalized worker in the society at a difficult time.

How does government implement a minimum wage policy to equatable redistribute income in the society.

So far the statement on the matter from Andrew Bynoe of A1 supermarkets is one of the more sensible ones registering with the blogmaster.

I would even advocate moving to $10 an hour to somebody who works for 40 hours, so they would have a gross take-home pay of $400. However, having said that, the cost of living has to be addressed, because for businesses to be able to support the minimum wage up to $10, we have to look at the other areas of costs that affect the running of businesses…Employees would have to honour efficiency and higher productivity within the workplace…

Andrew Bynoe


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354 responses to “Minimum Wage (Yes) Timing (No?)”


  1. @Artax

    You have time in your hands? Is it not obvious ac does not have a clue about what what goes in to determining a national minimum wage? There are some topics it is better to read and learn. A word to the ignorant should be sufficient.


  2. @ac

    Here is a man who knows a bit more about the subject.

    $10 minimum wage bad move at this time
    I smiled when I read a comment from Andrew Bynoe, managing director of A1 Supermarkets captioned, Bynoe Suggests $10 Minimum Wage.
    His comment was not supported by any economic analysis, theory or evidence but one wonders if it was plucked from a hat to create news. It is similar in thought, though not identical, with other comments made by other people, including the leader of the Barbados Workers’ Union.
    The suggestion for a high minimum wage of $10, or anywhere above $8.50, in an economy battered by COVID-19, with an extremely high unemployment rate and deep recession, is irresponsible in 2021.
    I heard the Prime Minister, Mia Amor Mottley, carefully outline in the Estimates the problems facing this economy, including the need to borrow heavily, depressed tax revenues, rising expenditures, etcetera, etcetera. In this COVID environment, Barbados cannot afford to have a high minimum wage as suggested by Bynoe, which would generate further unemployment, or create the opportunity for increased prices by struggling businessmen. I doubt any businessman in Barbados would agree with Bynoe’s proposal.
    But his lack of research bothers me in a critical society. For example, the average wage rate in the hotel sector based on Government survey data is $9.5 per hour, and the actual minimum wage paid is $6.97. The “minimum wage rate” of $10 recommended by Bynoe is higher than both of these. This implies that all wages of lower-income groups in the private sector would have to be adjusted upwards to maintain parity with his minimum wage rate. An economy in deep recession cannot afford such a luxury.
    The moral of my story is that an analysis of an economy cannot be based on one or two variables or anecdotal arguments. Sir Arthur Lewis once said that development cannot take place in a capitalist economy unless there is an increase in the rate of profit in the national income. In this context, the real wage in the private sector cannot be set too high, which makes sense particularly during a very deep recession fighting with the ghost of COVID-19.
    Lewis’ analysis implies that Government expenditure should be the principal catalyst in the distribution of income and alleviating poverty.
    – Professor Michael Howard


  3. These business people only care about their greedy bottomline, those don’t deserve to be in business, shut them down, they don’t care if their workers can afford to eat…even though the price gouge….move away from those and start your own businesses….too greedy don’t deserve anyone’s patronage.


  4. @ David

    Prof, Howard sums up ac’ comments perfectly re: “The moral of my story is that an analysis of an economy cannot be based on one or two variables or ANECDOTAL arguments.”


  5. @Artax

    All some of us can do is ask for the best policies to be implemented to protect the vulnerable. The blogmaster likes Winston Cox suggestion to allow the tax system to trigger a tax credit for those earning at a determined level.


  6. David you ain’t two smart either
    The fact that this 8.50 has brought cause for heated debate is a telling sign that the measure in itself cannot bring any meaningful and long term help to the people and an economy which is over heated
    Govt is now riding a one leg horse hoping it can making it to the winners circle
    Defending an 8.50 rate with inflation pressing its knees it the economy neck is foolhardy


  7. @ac

    The blogmaster is smart enough to know that $8.50 is better than $6.25 for workers at the bottom which your party did not change in the lost decade. Have the last word.


  8. Mari

    What is an overheated economy?

    The thing you say!!


  9. DavidMarch 28, 2021 8:06 PM

    @ac

    The blogmaster is smart enough to know that $8.50 is better than $6.25 for workers at the bottom which your party did not change in the lost decade. Have the last word

    Lol

    But the last govt promised the public sector a fifteen percent raise hike
    However present govt only could forked up 5percent while giving corporations huge tax cuts and waivers


  10. John2 don’t hurt huh head about what I say
    Worry about the huge economic hole called the poverty line which govt has to resolved


  11. And inflation was up passed 35% for that period


  12. Hypocrite


  13. @avid March 28, 2021 6:58 PM “A word to the ignorant should be sufficient.”

    David a word to the ignorant is never ever sufficient. Lol!

    Sometimes 100 million words are not sufficient to wipe away the stupidity.


  14. Ideal wage ‘not practical’
    by SHAWN CUMBERBATCH
    shawncumberbatch@nationnews.com
    THE COST OF LIVING has escalated so much since 2012 that the minimum wage should ideally be $486 per week in order to restore the purchasing power of Barbados’ lowest paid workers.
    But the Minimum Wage Board said if this $12.15 per hour rate was implemented, it would be too traumatic for businesses, and the economy would be harmed.
    In light of these concerns, the board and the Manpower Research and Statistical Unit (MRSU) of the Ministry of Labour and Social Partnership Relations recommended that the national minimum wage should be $10 hours per hour, phased in over three years ending in 2023.
    This is what the two bodies communicated in their proposals to the Blue-Ribbon Advisory Committee On The Establishment Of A National Minimum Wage, chaired by former Chief Justice Sir David Simmons.
    The six-member committee outlined the proposals in its report to Government, in which it recommended a one-year national minimum wage of $8.50 per hour ($340 per week) and $9.25 per hour ($370 weekly) for security guards.
    A team led by the ministry’s chief researcher Ricardo Norville said that “having considered that there is a high cadre of workers earning an average weekly wage below $250, and that the cost of living has increased over the period 2012 to 2020, it has become even more difficult for persons to maintain a decent standard of living.
    “In 2012, a shop assistant earned $13 000 a year or $6.25 per hour. In 2019, given the effect of inflation, that $6.25 now has a purchasing power of $3.21. However, for there to be equilibrium or rather, for a shop assistant to have the same purchasing power today, as was the case in 2012, the minimum wage would need to be set at approximately $12.15,” said the MRSU.
    However, the advisory committee reported that notwithstanding these observations, the MRSU considered “the overall analysis and the concerns of the labour market and its ability to pay” and recommended a $10 hourly national minimum wage phased in over three years.
    Mindful
    In its submission, the Minimum Wage Board, comprising chairman Professor Philmore Alleyne, deputy chair Lynda Goodridge and Professor Troy Lorde, said their minimum wage proposal was mindful of the challenging economic conditions facing the country.
    The advisory committee said the other factors were the possible effects on employment levels as employers might shift from full- to part-time work for employees (in some cases, workers may be laid off or dismissed); the potential effect on very small businesses which might not be able to absorb increased costs or pass them on to the consumer; and the cost of doing business, for example, security companies and retail enterprises passing on the cost to clients.
    “In the opinion of the board, a jump from $6.25 to $12.15 in 2020 would be ‘too traumatic for businesses’. Such an increase would have the effect of doubling the payroll bill of businesses and would impact the economy negatively,” said the advisory committee report.
    “The [Minimum Wage] Board followed Professor Andrew Downes’ recommendation of a phased approach to implementation of a national minimum wage. It recognised that the solution it proposed was not perfect but, taking all relevant factors into account, and seeking to accommodate the several disparate interests, $10 per hour phased in over three years was fair and reasonable.
    “So far as the security services sector was concerned, the board accepted that personnel in this sector were exposed to risks not necessarily inherent in other occupations, and often kept unsociable hours. There was justification for a separate and different national minimum wage for employees in this sector,” the committee added.

    Source: Nation

  15. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    “having considered that there is a high cadre of workers earning an average weekly wage below $250, and that the cost of living has increased over the period 2012 to 2020, it has become even more difficult for persons to maintain a decent standard of living.”

    Now you tell us if we should not be ashamed to have “‘a high cadre “ of people working for BELOW $250BDS per week.
    But, after the show is over………


  16. @William

    The discussion is about timing. All here agree the minimum wage must be higher but if you implement it at a time businesses are largely cash strapped it will compromise others who are employed. The blogmaster does not have the answer to whether it is the right time or not although the pros and cons are noted.


  17. “But the Minimum Wage Board said if this $12.15 per hour rate was implemented, it would be too traumatic for businesses, and the economy would be harmed.”

    so they all prefer the Black population to wallow in poverty generationally so that a bunch of racist, thieves and the greedy can continue to brag and boast about being millionaires and OFFSHORE ALL THEIR PROFITS at the expense of the poor whom they created and then these claim to be educated……right, educated asses..


  18. Yes…and we noticed those who PROMOTE POVERTY for the majority population ……and business people’s greed…all carry these useless shit titles….their wickedness and ignorance is palatable.


  19. The timing is wrong as well as the paltry increase
    Fixing the economy should have been the first priority
    With a focus on putting people back to work


  20. @ac

    Tell out how does any government achieve what you ask during a pandemic with the type of economy successive governments have given us. Tell us please.


  21. The one thing i will not give them is information on how to fix this, these beasts are not to benefit…. the time for minorities and their greedy counterparts to be living off the Black population generationally has EXPIRED….am so glad PLT sees them all for what they truly are…..and so has the whole world..

    can’t allow DLP back as no pretend leaders either…they all carry the same toxic UNEDUCATED go nowhere colonial mentality..

  22. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    Go and read Dr. Don Marshall. Let them go , and start the building of a new economy. We have given them everything for sixty years and we still ended up working for less than $250 per week. A new entrepreneurial class will spring up. You cannot produce a 2021 model car on a 1921 production line.
    If you find the time read Dr. Don Marshall. He is talking about a quantum leap. Dr. Howard’s views are no longer relevant to our reality.
    Every inequality that is being suffered now, has been there before COVID.
    Time to change gears or move out of the way..
    Why build up those who in the best of times paid workers less than $250 per week. Let them sink !


  23. They are so devoid of and lacking in ancestral creativity, gifts and skills that they call making prototypes of painted slave-like huts for whole families to live in, perched on a few concrete blocks with steps that already look detached….creativity…it only needs a nice strong cat 3-5 storm or hurricane to blow the whole thing down….rush and hurry to get votes for 2023 and call themselves educated and intelligent….steuppps…

    the more slave titles they carry, the more STUPID they are…

  24. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    This discussion is not about “ timing” . This is about stopping the brutal exploitation of the working class. This is not about sucking up to Abed and Clarke. This is about corporate immorality using a pandemic and national crisis, to inflict pain on the workers.
    This time it is NOT about timing at all. It’s just the right time to see them all fold . Blasted criminals !


  25. Mari

    Using the figures provided by artax the increase for the lowest paid workers is above the level of inflation increase under the BLP

    While that under the DLP is a reflection of how many seat they won last election

    So switch your argument now


  26. “Why build up those who in the best of times paid workers less than $250 per week. Let them sink !”

    i would DRAG all of them to the bottom and DROWN THEM…let them live off the millions they offshored and have in places like ARGENTINA etc and still trying TO RIP OFF the population of everything else through PRICE GOUGING, when there is nothing left…and don’t want to pay decent wages….take them down..

    told yall these savages KNOW they have a cage filled with ringfenced slaves provided for them by the sellouts in the parliament..


  27. @ac

    Tell out how does any government achieve what you ask during a pandemic with the type of economy successive governments have given us. Tell us please.
    xxxxxccccccccccccccc

    David in the thread “Gloomy outlook ” I have already stated the economic path govt should have pursued
    This 8 50 not going to cut it with high unemployment at unprecedented level
    Most likely than not what little achieved by earnings would go to pay bills nothing of which would go into the economy
    As previously stated the economy is sick financial aid is the only positive source needed to jumpstart the economy which would build confidence and in turn bring economic activity to better level of performance and which can help to bring unemployment levels down also generate much needed revenue for govt
    As usual the tail is wagging the dog
    Yesterday I laid out reasons why the economy would remain stagnant as govt policies seem to be hell bent on political mechanism
    The word stimulus seems not to be a word that govt can relate by way of jump starting the economy


  28. @William

    The blogmaster real all of them, based on your prism one will have appeal over the other. As previously stated the blogmaster sides with Winston Cox more pragmatic approach. Don Marshalls view has its place but as Howard states it will be about affordability. You move the minimum wage close to the basic wage and then the differential argument comes into play. It is not an easy decision. We want all workers to earn a reasonable way but achieving it with minimum dislocation given the current fragile state of the economy is a consideration that you should not trivialize.


  29. The academic-theoretical discussion about the minimum wage shows once again how far away many commentators in their grand mansions and villas on the platinum coast are from the reality of life for ordinary Barbadians.

    Minimum wage is only paid to those who have a job and are employed somewhere. The unemployed and self-employed like taxi drivers and beach vendors do not benefit from the minimum wage.


  30. Mari

    Stimulus??

    Please tell where this stimulus money will come from?

    You cry down the borrowing by governante and any increase in taxes.

    Stunkler stimulated the economy for ten years by printing money and still ended up with negative growth


  31. John 2
    In the same manner govt could find 3million for the hotel industry
    In the same manner govt could find revenue for the complaining tourist about protocols
    In the same manner govt could find money to buy useless electric bases and plans to buy more
    In the same manner govt can find money to build houses for squatters

  32. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    You need to understand the fundamentals of debate. Simply because another opinion exists , it does not mean one is trivializing or your newly minted “ “ being emotional “. I have always had time for Dr. Howard. However on this issue he is really out of wind.
    To make an omelette, we have to break an egg.
    BTW , declaring people “ emotional” is a technique widely used to shut up minorities , whenever they resist being rolled over.

    It’s not my fault that some of us are stuck in fear of change or speaking the truth to power.


  33. “3million”

    you mean 300 million of the people’s money….they can always find the people’s money by the millions to give away but can’t find any to give the rightful owners outside of slave salaries and poverty…


  34. You need to relax William.

    #hypa


  35. Só after crying down all the borrowing you are suggesting it is good that we have the money in the bag to prop up / stimulate the economy


  36. David

    You now arriving at that conclusion or you help back long enuff?

    #sittingoncorncob


  37. @Mr Bossman @Mr Slavedriver and @ Mr Criticiser
    stop pushing me pushing me like you want to push me out of my job
    fuck em all I say we don’t need no stinking minimum wage jobs


  38. John2March 29, 2021 8:51 AM Mari Stimulus?? Please tell where this stimulus money will come from? You cry down the borrowing by governante and any increase in taxes. Stunkler stimulated the economy for ten years by printing money and still ended up with negative growth

    Ah… now ask yourself how that could happen. If I am pouring water in a bucket and the level inside in falling, why would that be?

    The answer is obvious. And not nice.


  39. What of splitting much of the private and public unutilised lands into parcels for leasing to persons for agriculture? This would be a major step to aiding some ot become self sufficient, feed the nation and reduce amount spent on foreign exchange.

    This should include animal husbandry as well as crops. Implement strong penalties for animal theft and crop theft. And act on them.

    Give people options in life, instead of forcing people to run to the bank to get a loan, then be rejected. The banks will not support the small man. You only get a loan if you already have assets.

    The government needs to act to help people get on their feet. Plenty of land about. And not for concreting either.

    Lease quarter acre lots to two acre lots. Help them get fencing and sheds in. Help them access small loans for seeds and small equipment. Provide large equipment services, such as harrowing, at a small fee, from a centralised unit.

    Build a plan to develop animal husbandry. Leave the large animals like cows for the owners with money. Focus on chickens, sheep, goats, pigs.

    Productivity, not shelling out pocket money. The same goes for small cottage industries, such as leather, which can get raw material from the small farmers after butchering.

    Or y’all want to see who can earn more at whatever hotel?

    Nothing wrong with hotel work, but it cannot be the only thing. What is killing Barbados is this grab for money on every plot of land. Instead of developing the country’s productive forces.


  40. Many of the majority population are realizing that it’s THEIR BLACK CHILDREN staying in generational poverty while minority children ARE ADVANCING…at their expense…and the Black population have NO ACCESS to their own money….because the rush and hurry in the governments are always too DESPERATE TO SELL OUT…

    i don’t see them letting this continue…not if they want to survive and their children and future generations advance with the money the population’s existence generate..


  41. One minister of housing under DLP for every house he had the crooks build in Charnocks on the 228 Lots, according to info received, ….he got 10,000 per house in bribery….and made a cool 1/4 million dollars to inflate his bank account and would turn around and tell us about minorities this and that but would sellout at the drop of a hat….DBLP sellouts…came straight out of the briber’s mouths.


  42. Ah wonder if that one is in Mia big red bag of evidence of DLP corruption she was swinging around on the political platform claiming she was going to prosecute…”just elect me and see”……so wuh happen wit dat.


  43. @WWoU: “so wuh happen wit dat.

    The current modeling is the AIs will take over, and so all humans will be given a Basic Minimum Wage.

    Seriously. That’s what is most likely going to happen.

    It might take a few years for that to happen, though.


  44. “Seriously. That’s what is most likely going to happen.”

    we have been told that for years, so am sure a few years is accurate for us to see the reality.


  45. @WWoU: We have been told that for years, so am sure a few years is accurate for us to see the reality.

    Respectfully… Go is to Chess as Chess is to Checkers.

    Please take this very seriously. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y


  46. @Chris,
    Interested in your opinion on use of facial recognition technology.. Take your time.


  47. @TOG: “Interested in your opinion on use of facial recognition technology.

    What most people don’t fully understand is Machine Learning is usually trained by Humans. Or, at least, by way of feedback loops.

    Thus, biases can be propagated into the Neural Network. This can sometimes cause problems when not all of the dimensions of the problem space are properly identified.

    A non-trival problem space. But, IMO, not intractable.


  48. Chris …Theo asked the aiport security a similar question when he went through the scanner but more in-depth, Do I have white features on a black face or black features on a white face, was the question ,one of the operators responded actually sir we thought you were doing a handstand


  49. @Lawson: “Theo asked the aiport security a similar question…

    Personally, I take people seriously when they can smell correctly…

    What are you actually trying to ask and/or say?

    Some around here are actually serious. Others are simply distractors…


  50. “Thus, biases can be propagated into the Neural Network. This can sometimes cause problems when not all of the dimensions of the problem space are properly identified.”

    every time I go to America they single me out to go through the full-body scanners which can damage your gonads

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