Which will it be, Extend the PAUSE or REOPEN?
Submitted by Observing
Back in March 2020 the GoB outlined a series of steps to address the Covid -19 challenge by entering Stage 3 and announcing a lockdown after 24 cases were recorded. These were all imported.
Fast forward to December 3, 2020 where we had 281 total cases (24 active) and 7 deaths. We were still managing well under the circumstances.
Fast forward again to December 31, 2020 where ten new cases were announced and the first signal of worry kicked in.
This led to the period Jan 1st to 4th 2021 where we added 297 new cases and then onto January 26, 2021 when we prepared to “pause.”
Since the pause we have had 520 more positive cases, 11 more deaths and an average positivity rate between 4% and 9% with spikes as high as 15% on some days.
Now with the national pause set to expire we wait with bated breath to see what happens
- Former president of the Barbados Chamber of Commerce and Industry, Eddy Abed has made clear that “the private sector can’t take another lock down” (Feb 12, 2021)
- President of the Barbados Private Sector Association (BPSA) Edward Clarke suggested that only in “extreme circumstances” should such drastic measures be taken. (Feb 10, 2021)
- Chamber of Commerce president Trisha Tannis warns Barbadians to brace for the possibility of more job losses
- However, Dr. Adrian Lorde says that an extension to the lockdown may be necessary
- We still record between 25 and 40+ cases each day with regrettable deaths in between.
So, which will it be? What should we choose?
Extend the pause out of caution and in the interest of public health or, reopen with the known risk and the hope of economic gain?
@ Hal
You do realise that Vitamin D argument for Covid does not hold up to scrutiny? If there was any truth in that wouldn’t states like California of had way lower rates of infection than other parts of the USA based on their sunny weather.
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@ John A
I m not a scientist, but some are saying it is valid. The scientific community are divided.
Health officials carried out a rapid review of the evidence on links between vitamin D and Covid-19, after a small number of studies had suggested it might play a role in the body’s immune response to respiratory viruses.
However, they found there was “insufficient evidence” to recommend it for preventing or treating the disease….(Quote)
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John AFebruary 14, 2021 5:07 PM
@ Hal
You do realise that Vitamin D argument for Covid does not hold up to scrutiny? If there was any truth in that wouldn’t states like California of had way lower rates of infection than other parts of the USA based on their sunny weather.
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Depends on how many Californians walk about in the sun!!
Me, I am trying to lose weight and be as active outdoors as possible.
So far I am down 11 pounds and feeling great.
I want to lose another 9 pounds … at least.
I am eating well, just making sure I am as physically active as I can be.
Today was flying fish, peas and rice and vegetables, yesterday was baked chicken peas and rice and string beans and on Friday it was lamb and white rice and vegetables.
I am soon going to try some yams.
Not breaking any rules!!
I’ve discovered that the island has a far more serious problem than COVID.
Cow Itch.
Cleared a large area yesterday and today!!
Learning techniques.
My old friend the cane cutter told me in his day people were paid by the plantation extra for any cow itch plants they brought in.
Consequently, most of Barbados was clear.
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JOHN
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THIS ARTICLE IS MOST REVEALING
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IT HAS BEEN MOSTLY DOWN HILL SINCE
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@Tron February 13, 2021 9:12 PM “The virus spreads because the population, especially our public servants, does not follow the protocol. Too many locals offering sex services to tourists”
EEEWWW!!!
Please don’t tell me that there are people who have sex with strangers. That is so nasty man! I thought that that nonsense had gone out of fashion from the beginning of the HIV epidemic 40 years ago.
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@ GP,
We don’t hear much from you these days. Thanks for the article.
I noticed this piece of text:
“It was a matter of pride for plantations to have neatly weeded and maintained gutters bordered by khus khus grass next to the highway. The khus khus grass provided an excellent way to prevent soil erosion due to its density and strong root system. It also smelled nice when dried and was placed in clothes drawers to keep clothes smelling fresh. Any manager who let this maintenance slip would be needled by his peers at social functions. Some plantations also planted pea trees along the hedgerows as an additional source of food and income.”
My grandparents use to have a pea hedgerow along the boundary of their land in the North of the island.
We need a return to some of the old ways. However, it is clear that in many ways poverty appears to remain a permanent fixture amongst too many of our fellow Bajans. As is the case with classicism and racism. I hope that these views will not upset Artax, Donna or David.
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@ John February 14, 2021 3:53 PM
“Or, tell people get off their asses and go and walk about in the sun!!”
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Isn’t that a bit too richly ‘enlightening’ coming from a pale-skin white supremacist like you?
We were more expecting you to advise the blacks to lock themselves inside their houses of virtual prayer-rooms to beseech your dead deaf and dumb god Yahweh to send a brazen snake to heal them from the curse of the serpent called Covid an enemy of the descendants of Asclepius and Hygeia.
The Sun is the natural disinfectant and virus fighter for mother Earth’s mammals.
Black people are natural children of the Sun. Any long-term deprivation of its healing powers must result in compromised immune systems.
That’s why there will be little relief, vaccine or no vaccine, in the Northern hemisphere until the Sun crosses the celestial Equator (or more like the Earth reversing its tilt to achieve aphelion) on its way to bring the much needed ‘apogee’ of heat and “perigee” of light to the Northern hemisphere.
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I like to walk, but you can’t imagine how many people feel sorry for me and offer me lifts. I used to work an hour outside of Bridgetown, and I would walk from there to the bus-stand, then take a 20 minute bus ride home. My colleges thought that I was mad when I would very, very politely refuse their offer of a lift to town. I used to walk with John Knox too typically the 3 hour Sunday morning stop and stare walk, although I did the Sunday afternoon walk sometimes. Church every other Sunday morning, then a 3 hour walk every other Sunday morning. Nearly 70 and I can still do five hours in what people call “the hot broiling sun” as long as I drink half a pint of cool water every half an hour.
I rarely agree with John about anything but I agree with him that we all need to spend more time in the sun. My former employer provided an air conditioned lunch room, but also provided benches and tables in the sun where employees could choose to eat lunch outdoors. Maybe more employers could do the same. A few benches and tables would do only a minor amount of damage to the bottom line of most companies.
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@John A February 14, 2021 5:07 PM “You do realise that Vitamin D argument for Covid does not hold up to scrutiny? If there was any truth in that wouldn’t states like California of had way lower rates of infection than other parts of the USA based on their sunny weather.”
Ahhh!, but Americans do love their central air conditioning and air conditioned cars. If you go from air conditioned house to air conditioned car to air conditioned factory, mall or office you have little contact with the sun. May as well be living in the Arctic.
Have you noticed that none of the people who do outdoor work for the NCC have MS? Probably not many with Covid either, and none or few with osteoporosis or broken hips in old age.
Why?
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@ Cuhdear
Yes good point.
Now you mention it I remember as a young boy growing up alot of guys road bicycles to and from work. Not the fancy ones like today but a heavy steel 3 speed one called a Raleigh. They were black or green in colour. These guys were slim and rode well into their eighties and never went in a hospital either. So yes we have forgotten alot about the lessons of the past. I guess that’s why they called them the good old days before the fast food places took over.
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“I rarely agree with John about anything but I agree with him that we all need to spend more time in the sun.”
You know there are some mad people who don’t want to look dark even if it could save their lives. I remember many times when i would go sunning on the beach i would be told that i think…thinking for me and all…that am a tourist.
they won’t even notice like i did that if i stay out of the sun for too long, many, many months, i start to lose melanin. and if for years, not liking that at all, and that’s not healthy, but am not tellng what to do:DISCLAIMER..
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For John Knox:
Try to clear away the cow itch plants BEFORE the cow itch beans form, and certainly before they mature.Cow itch has a beautiful purple flower. Uproot the plant once you notice the beautiful purple flowers. It does not itch at that time. Only the mature beans cause itching.
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How many test cricketers do we hear of with COVID?
They spend 6 hours a day running about in the sun.
Diet, Exercise and Sun!!
Admittedly, they live under restrictions, still, we all do.
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@ks February 14, 2021 9:32 AM “Wearing mask, sanitising, etc., even at home, may make more of a difference.”
I would say Wearing mask, sanitising, etc., ESPECIALLY at home.
Since this thing started I wear a mask at home whenever ANYBODY, including my sweet grandchildren [little germ incubators, lol!] is in the same room as I am.
People seem to believe that their own family is CLEAN and other people are nasty. But at this point we are MORE LIKELY to catch Covid from our “clean” family than from a stranger.
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@ John A February 14, 2021 7:42 PM “Now you mention it I remember as a young boy growing up alot of guys road bicycles to and from work. Not the fancy ones like today but a heavy steel 3 speed one called a Raleigh.”
I learned to ride a bicycle on my old man’s 3 speed Raleigh. It was his work transportation, but he let all of his children learn to ride on it. He did all the maintenance on it himself.
I know another old man who up to his late 80’s or early 90’s rode his bicycle from northern St. James to Green Hill to spend every night to spend time with his girlfriend. Rode back home in the opposite direction every morning. He was as thin a a rake. Those old men knew that life was for living. Don’t know how many modern men would ride 15 miles per day to visit their lady love.
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And I am not saying that it can’t happen, but I have not heard of any covid among Sanitation Service Authority outdoor workers, yet those men [and a few women] are potentially exposed t0 all sorts of bio-hazards every single day.
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@Hal Austin February 14, 2021 4:49 PM “You cannot put people aged over 70 on lockdown and impose a national pause, then tell people to get off their backsides and walkabout in the sunshine. In any case, sunshine is limited to the tourists who do not like seeing natives on the beaches”
Maybe Hal has lived outside of Barbados so long that he does nor realise that the sun does not only shine on the beach.
Lemme tell wunna a secret, I was outside today and the sun was shining in my backyard, side yard and front yard. And I 100% guarantee that it will do the same tomorrow, and the next day and the next day for a few more billion years. There is no shortage of sunshine at 13.06 degrees north.
Barbados in not on lockdown. Nobody is stopping anybody from going out in their yard. Just keep 6 feet from your neighbor.
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And we don’t really care what the tourists don’t like seeing. When we come on the beach they can close their eyes.
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This woman should be arrested for abuse…😀
“Maybe Hal has lived outside of Barbados so long that he does nor realise that the sun does not only shine on the beach.
Lemme tell wunna a secret, I was outside today and the sun was shining in my backyard, side yard and front yard. And I 100% guarantee that it will do the same tomorrow, and the next day and the next day for a few more billion years. There is no shortage of sunshine at 13.06 degrees north.”
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It is time to transform Barbados into a republic. First of all, we should give our government quasi-dictatorial powers to fight the epidemic effectively. The people want it that way.
Traditional freedom means chaos.
Total government means new freedom.
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So whether you are sitting on your back step in the Orleans or Greenfields or Boscobelle or East Point or by a pool at Sandy Lane it is the EXACT SAME sun.
“In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. FOR HE GIVES HIS SUNLIGHT TO BOTH THE EVIL AND THE GOOD , and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike.” Matthew 5:45
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Shut down for another two weeks
Curfew need extending – maybe to include all day on weekends
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One cloud we have is that a large segment of the population is at risk with their own versions of NCD’s.
I’m guessing 1/3 by looking at the data on those who live a sedentary lifestyle.
However we have a silver lining.
Our lungs good and COVID goes for the lungs!!
The other cloud is that many of our leaders, God bless their souls, our elite if you like, are members of the at risk segment and will do anything to preserve their own lives.
If it means locking down the country and destroying its economy so be it.
Get up and move.
By all means observe sensible precautions but let’s get moving for heavens sakes.
Conventional wisdom is that COVID like flu and the common cold will always be with us, just like the at risk segment of our population.
Next time our leaders appear before us on TV or whatever means, turn off the audio and observe them.
You will see they are scared shitless of their own mortality.
In two two’s you will find you are moved to turn off the video as well.
They turn your stomachs.
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@ Miller,
Sound government advice which cannot be refuted.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/14/ministers-flatly-reject-tory-demands-to-end-covid-controls-by-may
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Source: Nation
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Source: Nation
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We all know John bloody Fucking Knox is not an original thinker and is a copycat copycat sitting on the doormat
“Exercise and build up your structure. Go to sea and learn how to swim. If you can’t afford off a gym. Buy a piece of rope!”
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Service your engine if you want it to function.
Check your oil and clean your radiator.
Make sure you clean your carburator.
Throw some water in the radiator.
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We’ve had enough fearmongers
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
David are you not guilty of encouraging the nutters to air their views about their conspiracy hypothesis
problem is people cannot think with their own minds and read crap to copy and sound clever
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“AstraZeneca vaccine given. It is perfectly safe,”
same vaccine now banned in several european countries…pro-vaxxers are just as careless with information…and coming from a FRAUD who is not credible.
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“We’ve had enough fearmongers
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.”
“Vaccine rush at polyclinic”
“Shut down for another two weeks
Curfew need extending – maybe to include all day on weekends”
“This woman should be arrested for abuse…”
Clearly, there are opposing views here related to the “Spread” of Covid-19 in Barbados.
Some contributors see a real problem and believe that we should engage in locking down the island to halt the spread of a virus that is barely deadly. (And if there is anyone who dares to challenge that statement, I will take them on. So before responding with ignorance, go and so some calculations first.)
This lockdown is to the detriment of the economy and the livelihood of over 100,000 Barbadians. Why? Well Barbados produces nothing but idiots and fools it appears. People who clearly cannot think or reason with any degree of clarity, or rationalism, but who seem to be all caught up in the belief that a “Highly infectious disease can be avoided by wearing a mask. And that makes perfect sense to them, because the government has said as much.
Then there is CNN here to add credibility to that.
Some will say “look how many people are dying”. To that I say, check the death rates from Cancer ( all forms) and other NCD’s in Barbados for the last two years.
Then, I will ask, who is verifying and validating these local figures? Is there ANY independent analysis or validation, or is the government the sole source of news about this?
You see, when I listen to some news outlets like VoB and Brasstacks, with their very biased moderators, I hear a clear undertone that tells me that some of these persons based on their memberships and organizational affiliations believe themselves to be more “Enlightened” than the average bear.
They feel that by their readings of specific writings which may not be publicly available, that they hold knowledge that is too good for the rest of us and that by doing so, they are entitled to push an agenda which is clearly detrimental to the rest of us “useless eaters!”
Then they are those who want something to “belong to” They have no real voice or value, but by adopting the Covid-19 agenda of the “elites” they believe that they will be somehow rewarded or will do some great good for society. So they call radio talk shows every day that these programmes are open and spew pure ignorance and stupidity in the name of “following science” and “following protocols”
Lets quickly look at mask wearing. Excessive wearing of masks and re-absorption of Carbon Dioxide will result in acidic blood. You don’t have to believe a word of it. You can even go and do research which refutes it. But humans were made to metabolize food for energy in the presence of oxygen. Plants were made to do the same in the presence of Co2. That is the balance of nature.
But some idiots from the W.H.O, CDC and local clowns like Corey Forde, Infections Disease Specialist tell us that we can breath Co2 with no ill effects because Covid-19 is worse and we accept that.
That makes sense.
Man is now smarter than God!
Locking down wont halt any spread. Actually, in last years lockdown, we heard rumors of another one to come. And here it is!
Somehow, we KNEW that we would need another lockdown, and it was to halt the spread of covid and we accepted that. As far as I am concerned, if you knew that back in March 2020, you should have used your great insight and ability to see into the future to halt the spread back then.
I am certain if people could tell the future, the present would look quite different, But that is just my idea.
Locking down wont change death rates either. People will die because people are unwell. Period. They spent years eating badly, not taking care of their own health and now are at risk. A vaccine wont save them either. Its natural selection at work. The weaker of a species will die.
There was a contributor earlier who was castigating the Vitamin D theory. Some people only want something from Big Pharma. The stand in disbelief that half of these challenges we have have simple solutions. But Big Pharma says that is a lie, and they buy it. But when a PM says “Stan home” “Stan inside” I see conspiracy here.
The bulk of New Yorkers spend 2/3 of their day on the inside of some building, be it at home, work on a Subway platform, wherever. There is so much research which supports the linkage between Vitamin D and immune health that its bewildering, but you are told to “Stan inside!” I guess you have an air filtration system on your houses too.
You see this whole Covid-19 thing. It is about the willingness, or ability to get people to sell or surrender their souls to whomever has masterfully put this whole plan in motion.
Don’t believe for one instant that ant mortal man could be able to influence the world to behave the exact same way across differing and diverging religions, cultures, social beliefs and geographies. That is just about as possible as when you walk outside, a micro-meteorite hits you and kills you.
This is an early fight for souls and some have tried rather covertly to sell ours for their on self aggrandizement and elevation. It is evident by their behavior which clearly demonstrates that they have been given over to a reprobate mind.
But persons are pushing back because they probably “feel” that something is not right. Some are saying that there is not enough testing of the vaccine to be a willing participant , while others are distrusting of the constant brown beatings from the media on why they need to take it.
To those who will hear, and heed, Protect your souls from the wiles of the evil ones!
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Watcher
Lockdown turns the heat down when there are spikes in Covid spread
Feasible Conspiracy theories are
It gives World Governments opportunities to spy on public such as track and trace apps and police watching drugs runnings
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There is no right or wrong position. As individuals (country) we have to take decisions in our best interest based on what confronts us. Barbados is a country with high incidence of NCDs also an aging population.
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….. and get out into the sun for your generous daily dose of sunshine with its Vitamin D, or Vitamin D supplements for the “shut-ins”. This has not been emphasised, unfortunately, but it greatly reduces your risk of infection, of severe illness and of death from COVID-19.
– PROFESSOR SIR HENRY FRASER
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In non medical jargon, get up offa wunna backsides and get to f… outside.
MOVE!!!
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“This woman should be arrested for abuse”
I think you misunderstood the context.
Cuhdear does a great job of dissecting some comments. Was my way of saying “Great job” to her.
Had nothing to do with fear mongering.
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@ 555dubstreet
There is no need to turn the heat down on a virus that is not deadly. When we have cold season here do we lockdown? When there was the dreaded spread of Chikungunya here did we lockdown?
Why government feels that they know whats best for persons healthwise? It makes no logical sense.
However, if I am to deal with what you said related to Conspiracies, they are all possible. They are probably just results or outcomes of the lockdown more so than the reason for implementing them.
As I said in my column earlier, this is about souls at the end of the day. The push to inject and vaccinate all of these people with an untested, unproven and clearly unstable vaccine doesnt make sense especially when you tell me that it wont prevent me from contracting it, just prevent me from having severe symptoms! That is dumb, Just plain dumb!
But back to what you said about turning heat down, I dont see the need as this isn’t Ebola and doent kill on contact.
Want to turn the heat way down?
Encourage persons to eat healthy.
Encourage the to exercise at least 30 mins a day
Encourage them to get sunlight
Encourage them to go to or in the sea.
Enlighten them with information and let them make decisions for themselves.
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome is a sign of madness!
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Why are the Indians rushing to get vaccinated
Hmm
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“But back to what you said about turning heat down, I dont see the need as this isn’t Ebola and doent kill on contact.”
Ebola was deadlier but easier to control than an innocuous insidious virus like Covid which kills some but not all (somebunall)
Exercising is good for you generally speaking Covid or not.
True health is a balance between body mind and spirit.
There are a gazillion resources on youtube in the aquarian age sharing information
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Almost tuned out. Just scanning contributions.
Unable to process the mixture of facts, false facts diatribes, truth and lies. My spider senses stopped tingling.
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A guy who is a professor of dentistry for 40 years does not have a debate with a guy who removed his teeth with a string and a door knob.
Listen to, if only for the laugh
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@Angela Cox,
Why is it an issue. Many of you have expressed reticence over the vaccine (e.g. your post of February 14 9.22).
Some police and nurses have refused to have it.
Now that some members of the Indian Community are keen to have it, you have a problem with that too.
Stupse.
Good for them. They actually understand what is going on.
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Obviously the PM extended a courtesy to 40 Indians in Barbados holding Indian passports.
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@Theo,
Funny and accurate. Thank you.
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@ David February 15, 2021 8:36 AM
“There is no right or wrong position. As individuals (country) we have to take decisions in our best interest based on what confronts us. Barbados is a country with high incidence of NCDs also an aging population.”
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Since you have spoken the ‘inconvenient truth’ about the state of the health of the Barbadian nation how about a revisit to the debate about the imposition of a Fat Tax as a kind of vaccine to help fight the spread of the virus called ‘Mass Obesity’, the cause of many of the ailments which the likes of Covid can easily find to be a ready-made home to cripple a nation?
Covid has acted as a two-edged sword to not only put a severe economic dent in the government’s revenues but also to expose the country’s public health vulnerabilities.
It has also shown that the sale of ‘readymade’ processed foods at fast food outlets is NOT an essential service or activity but just another luxury for the long-term lazy with their spoiled chubby brats in tow.
Here is a golden opportunity for the government to eliminate two challenges by one attempt to protect the future health of the nation from potential ravages like Covid-21:
Why not impose a ‘healthy-eating tax’ on all fast food outlets with annual sales ‘turnovers’ greater than $50,000 or whatever is the current threshold for VAT registration?
There is no need to reinvent the tax collecting wheel. Why not piggyback on the existing VAT system while using the opportunity to fine-tune the entire VAT regime?
That would not only help stem the bleeding of the Covid-impacted government coffers but also act as a sinking fund to help mitigate the growing costs of ‘treating’ those NCDs, the perniciously biggest bugbear to a healthy population of Barbados.
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@David February 15, 2021 10:13 AM
This sounds like this was most likely our government fulfilling one of the conditions attached to India’s vaccine donation. Give their fellow Indian nationals vaccine priority in the first round.
It is what makes most sense to me when I put on my thinking cap.
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I stop reading at the part about mask raising co2 levels
Was reading mask for about a year
3 blood tests in that time and all co2 levels normal
Last blood was drawn in Friday logged in this morning and got the results
With mask co2 = normal
Ride planes, train and shuttles/ buses
No Covid / flu / cold with in that period
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Lock down worked before and it will work again
Back to ABC shopping
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GUINEA PIGS ? We will soon know if the vaccine works.
” It is understood that arrangements were made with Government for 40 people of the Indian community to receive vaccines in the fight against COVID-19, but triple that number turned up, creating problems at the clinic in Oistins, Christ Church.”
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@ Critical Analyzer
You’re assuming one of the conditions are attached to India’s vaccine donation, is ‘their fellow Indian nationals being given vaccine priority in the first round.’ Okay, ‘fair enough.’
So, unless you believe the Indians would deliberately set about, as a priority, to harm their own, would you agree the gesture ‘more or less’ indicates a ‘vote of confidence’ in the vaccine?
If so, then, doesn’t that mean the various reasons you’ve been outlining why you’re not going to take the vaccine and why people shouldn’t take it, are mere ‘alarmist conspiracy theories?’
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Always safer to let the trials finish first and view the outcomes, we don’t even have to rely on FDA or final reports to see the results, just stroll into any community and talk to the people after some time has passed. People, including doctors are posting their personal experiences with the vaccine live on FB and on other forums…
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I wrote before that the vaccine may not kill you, but ignorance surely will and some of the ignorance on display is overwhelming.
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This backlog of tests from 1-2 weeks ago is basically a self inflicted wound and it is almost the only way any lockdown would be undermined. IMO it is the SINGLE, PRIMARY REASON why the numbers have not stabilized and keep fluctuating. Simply, an asymptomatic person awaiting test results, not self quarantining would be spreading the virus before they get back the results, and it is prolonging the need for the lockdown. Be that as it may, until the Best-dos Santos Lab rectify this situation, a full reopening would just be irresponsible. The cases have to be stabilized or reduced. The lockdown would have to continue AS IS, or the measures slightly relaxed. At the same time making the lockdown more restrictive would make little sense. The use of lockdowns HAVE to be brought to a perpetual end. Barbados basically have to HOLD THE LINE for the time being. It may get worse before it gets better later down the road.
@ The Watcher, the Gov’t is being ADVISED by medical health professionals. They are not taking arbitrary action. Govt also takes the considerations of the private sector along with the general public when making policy decisions to fight COVID-19. Lockdowns, along with public health measures, have been in Wuhan and in other countries over to mitigate the spread of this virus until drugs\vaccines had been developed and distributed. It has been stated that 60% (180,000) Bajans have to be vaccinated to achieve herd immunity and “return to normal”. An argument can be advanced that the 100,000 doses (50,000 vaccinations) of the Oxford vaccine strategically applied in itself could save Barbados from the worst ever effects of THIS PANDEMIC and justify REASONABLE STEPS taken to mitigate the spread. It can be used to transition from needing lockdowns. The case fatality rate is low and the aim is to take REASONABLE STEPS to KEEP the number of cases and deaths low for as LONG as possible.
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********one of the conditions attached……
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@ Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV February 15, 2021 12:15 PM
Thank God, that no Chris Sinckler but General Bosstic is in charge of our health! 🙂
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I couldn’t leave it alone. I will have to place you in the same category as cuhdear.. abusing people or as a next person puts it “beating bad bowling”.
So, unless you believe the Indians would deliberately set about, as a priority, to harm their own, would you agree the gesture ‘more or less’ indicates a ‘vote of confidence’ in the vaccine?
If so, then, doesn’t that mean the various reasons you’ve been outlining why you’re not going to take the vaccine and why people shouldn’t take it, are mere ‘alarmist conspiracy theories?’ (Quote)
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Heard it am sure….shutting down the country for another 2 weeks will not make much difference in the economy. The greedy minorities can sit down.
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Everyone to the TV!
Our Supreme Leader Mia Mottley, president for life, is speaking. She’s great as always.
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Our PM is now getting really loud about the lies regarding the AZ vaccine. Very good! Very authentic, honest, compassionate and responsible.
It’s time to lock up all social media activists who criticise the vaccination campaign.
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Our Prime Minister appeals to all of us to be responsible. Very good.
Praise to the Indian government for the extra doses of vaccination. We need more Indians, more New Barbadians of that ilk.
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Why some people on the blog continues to throw shade at every Rh thing the government is trying to do to contain the virus? The very people live in rat and covid infested places?
Steuspe.
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@ Critical Analyzer to use Bajan “study it”, 40, 100, 1000 Indians out of a donation of 50,000 vaccinations is hardly a draconian term. Even if India imposed a condition that Barbados has to pay for the 100,000 doses in any subsequent order for Barbados is a win-win situation. Barbados would have got a working vaccine 10 weeks after vaccines have been made available worldwide. We would be happy to pay for vaccines to end the pandemic. India (by extention the UK) would know if their vaccine works and would be further confirmation after the Phase 3 trials. If the vaccines fail then 100,0000 doses is a drop in the bucket in the vaccine producing machine that is India and Barbados won’t have to pay for them.
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New Zealand locked down its capital ecause of 3 cases. If I heard the new right in cnn
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@Artax February 15, 2021 12:08 PM
Show me the comment where I told people not to take the vaccine. What I have said about the vaccine is it a totally new vaccine technology rushed through testing with no data on long term effects so nobody can say what will happen down the road. Everyone has to look at the data COVID, assess their own risk and decide where they are going to take their chances.
I am not taking it because the immune boosting protocol I put myself on is better than the vaccine and will take on all COVID variants as well as the Flu. I don’t put my faith solely in doctors, I do my own research as well but I have the ability to analyze things and learn things many in the drug pushing medical fraternity are not aware of or ignore.
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@CA
Your homemade âtherapeuticâ was tested?
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Covid: New Zealand Auckland lockdown ordered
Sun, February 14, 2021, 8:01 AM·2 min read
3 day lock down for 3 new cases
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@ David February 15, 2021 1:15 PM
Exactly. I just urged fellows in so-called developed countries to get their jab in Barbados after all locals are vaccinated. Our vaccination strategy is simply amazing. People must finally realise that the question of good governance is not a question of skin colour, but of the greatness of the leader.
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Here’s why Covid-19 numbers keep gradually improving. (Hint: It’s not widespread vaccinations)
Here’s why Covid-19 numbers keep gradually improving. (Hint: It’s not widespread vaccinations)
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/15/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html
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Once again, Barbados is punching far above its weight.
Our island may be very small, but we are a peaceful society. If the whole world was like Barbados, we would live a thousand years into the future without hunger, without war and without disease.
Keep going, Most Honourable Prime Minister!
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yall better remove yaselves from the debt INCURRED BY DBLP and let them find a way to pay it off how they could….them and the crooked minorites….whom they wrote off 1 billon dollars in VAT for that THEY STOLE….and all the other money missing from the treasury and pension fund.
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@Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV February 15, 2021 1:17 PM
You totally missed my point. I was commenting on David’s comment positing a highly possible reasons the Indians seemed to jump the vaccine queue.
On the vaccine front, no one knows what this vaccine will do long term unless they have a working crystal ball. It is using new and unproven vaccine technology. Only time will tell if the vaccine works and proves to be ultimately safe or dangerous.
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@David February 15, 2021 1:20 PM
Yes it is. Tested by doctors on the front line that successfully treated more people than we have had cases. But the protocol will gut the vaccine profits so they will never get a proper large scale blind placebo randomized control study to confirm it cuts the effects from the virus by 90%.
I have previously posted all the links and videos to the COVID19 Updates posts
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CrusoeFebruary 15, 2021 10:10 AM
@Angela Cox,
Why is it an issue. Many of you have expressed reticence over the vaccine (e.g. your post of February 14 9.22).
Not an issue for me at all although with so many elderly needing rhe vaccine it makes them look like selfish jerks
Although the possibility of COVID already spreading in their community might have caused them to bolt to the head of line.
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@CA
What says WHO?
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South Asians (SAs), originating from the Indian subcontinent (India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal, and Bhutan),are the largest visible minority in Canada.
SAs experience the highest rates of coronary artery disease in Canada. Wha bout in Barbados ?
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DavidFebruary 15, 2021 1:29 PM
Of course the protocols work. That is why they are recommended. However, they cannot be used ad infinitum, or can be, but will be somewhat less effective in a state of resumed business to prior Covid levels.
That is why a widespread vaccination program is needed.
Barbados now just needs to acquire more doses.
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@Crusoe
The prime minister gave the example of Israel successfully reducing infections by an aggressive vaccination program.
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@David
I believe nothing the WHO says.
They failed abysmally at their one job to catch the next pandemic in the early and prevent its spread. They let China lie to them and did PR for China saying there was no person to person transmission.
They finally sent a research team to Wuhan to trace the origins one year later most likely long after China done destroy most of the data. You think if it had started in Barbados, they would have waited a year to come investigating.
WHO overdosed the patients when they did their designed to fail Solidarity trial by giving people 3 and 4 times the recommended dose of Hydroxychloroquine some other doctors were having success with when used early.
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The PM reaffirmed what I said on another blog “Short term pain for long term gain”.
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@CA
You understand WHO is the governing body for health?
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@Sargeant
Looks like she is a fan. Several issues addressed by the PM have been aired in this space.
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Disappointing to hear that people who go to a facility to heal, leave with equipment that belongs to the State. These people should be assigned to another state -run facility in St. Philip.
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@ David who wrote ” Looks like she is a fan.”
Hopefully she also appreciates my taste in ” music ” and visits the Diaspora Corner.
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@Hants
Her taste in music is eclectic but partial to reggae and clays/soca.
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@David February 15, 2021 2:26 PM
Yes I do and I also understand they failed as the governing body. All the people at its head should be fired.
One of Trump’s biggest mistakes was abruptly pulling out of the WHO instead of insisting on an immediate in-depth into the source of the virus and why they failed to catch it in the early. The USA as the largest contributor was the only country that could have made that call.
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Some Bajans are bombarding each other with WhatsApp messages and videos about the dangers of the vaccines. As soon as word got out among Bajans of Indian descent that some vaccines may have been available to them they crashed the Polyclinics.
Food for thought.
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Caught up in the drama and not the substance. Many of us forget there is a reason we have a brain.
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“On the vaccine front, no one knows what this vaccine will do long term unless they have a working crystal ball. It is using new and unproven vaccine technology. Only time will tell if the vaccine works and proves to be ultimately safe or dangerous.”
tell them again, they too love to listen to nonsense from politicians and those who have to wait for information from WHO and others who have tirelessly put the info out there for a WHOLE YEAR…maybe if they had listened to us when we told them to shut the place down last summer and fall, they would not now be playing catch up.
the people better make informed decisions about starting their own businesses and actively research opportunities to do so….waiting on dependency tourism to pick up again is a nonstarter..
..between US and the Continent, i have seen young kids, teenagers, young adults, mid-aged and seniors, start up businesses that can carry them into the future…was very impressed with the creativity…it’s a nobrainer to combine knowledge and skills to come up with a survival package, instead of waiting for the go nowhere shit and dependency that politicians are famous for…to drive Black people back into oppression and disenfranchisement……there are literally thousands of opportunities to tap into to assert true independence…
….better than DEPENDENCY ON CROOKS…the time is here for BLACK INDEPENDENCE.
i myself found several interesting things and tapped into them ……all it took was a little brain power.
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@Hants
“Hopefully she also appreciates my taste in ” music ” and visits the Diaspora Corner.”
I imagine you as a man with a 1,009 records with 1,000 by the same artist. 😀
Hopefully, she appreciates your taste but has a wider selection.
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“Disappointing to hear that people who go to a facility to heal, leave with equipment that belongs to the State. These people should be assigned to another state -run facility in St. Philip.”
One wonders if this does not also increased the possibility of taking back covid-19 to the outside community.
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Next year we will all be celebrating again at the Sandy Lane clubhouse and laughing at Corona while playing golf.
The power of our Supreme Leader is absolute. Like Hobbes´s Leviathan. “There is no power on earth to be compared to her. Job 41 . 24.” No so-called extra-parliamentary opposition can hold a candle to her. The boom in the coming years will be so powerful that the people are literally crying out for the unconstitutional opposition to be banned altogether.
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RE You understand WHO is the governing body for health?
who? where? how?
over whom?
WHO IS REALLY PAYING THE PIPER AT WHO?
re One of Trump’s biggest mistakes was abruptly pulling out of the WHO
ACTUALLY HE WAS CORRECT
THE MONEY HE SAVED COULD HAVE BEEN USED TO PAY SOME WITH VISION OF HOW TO PRACTICALLY COMMIT THE UNAFFORDABLE ACT TO OBLIVION
instead of insisting on an immediate in-depth into the source of the virus and why they failed to catch it in the early. HOW WOULD HE HAVE INSISTED?
The USA as the largest contributor was the only country that could have made that call.
REALLY? WHEN EVERY ONE WAS CUSSING TRUMP AND OBJECTING TO WHAT EVER HE SAID?
PLEASE KINDLY NOTE
1- THE WHO IS LED BY A MAN WITH NO MEDICAL OR PUBLIC HEALTH TRAINING
2- THE CDC IS CORRUPT AS IT HAS BEEN FOR AGES
3- DR FALSY WAS/IS A DEMOCRATIC SABOUTEUR WHO NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN TRUSTED OR LISTENED TO.
HE IS MUCH LIKE HIS FATHER, THE DEVIL—A LIAR AND A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING. AND JUST AS HE DID YEARS AGO WITH HIV/AIDS
LET THE MEDICAL ILLITERATES TRY TO CONTRADICT ME AND GIVE ME SOME MIRTH WHEN NEXT I CHECK
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RE TronFebruary 15, 2021 3:45 PM
Next year we will all be celebrating again at the Sandy Lane clubhouse and laughing at Corona while playing golf.
The power of our Supreme Leader is absolute. Like Hobbes´s Leviathan. “There is no power on earth to be compared to her. Job 41 . 24.” No so-called extra-parliamentary opposition can hold a candle to her. The boom in the coming years will be so powerful that the people are literally crying out for the unconstitutional opposition to be banned altogether.
ARE YOU JUST A BLASPHEMER?,
OR
DO HAVE DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR?
OR
ARE YOU A WHOLE CIRCUS AND NOT ONLY A CLOWN
IT SEEMS THAT A GREATER JACK ASS IS HERE THAN BALAAM’S JACK ASS
WHY WATCH COMEDIES ON TV WHEN THERE IS BU?
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How is it that because of the backlogs bajans who were told to quarantine at their homes for the 14 day time period
The results now shows some of them were positive
Tracking people who these people might have associated after the 14 days would be like shooting fish in a barrell
The evidence shows that govt has created another monster which is as dangerous as the virus itself
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This afternoon we were promised a press briefing by the CoVid communications team, headed by Dr Walcott, and including the minister, Mr Bostic.
But, after t brief introduction by Dr Walcott and and update by Mr Bostic, the president came on and spoke fort 58 minutes of pure, self-obsessed waffle. Then to spend a long time answering questions.
The nation is in serious crisis and it is badly led by the president. She hs convinced herself that she is in charge and that the virus is under control.
When it is shown that she is not in control, she then blames others. It must be people on social media with fake news, misinformation, who do not know what they are talking about.
Then she gets angry and shots as if she is talking to toddlers, fuming that people are not listening to her. What she cannot accept is that she has lost the trust of people, that they can see through her.
She also has an awful obsession with micro-managing, with repeating things that have already been said as if they would not be understood unless she says them.
Those who listened to the briefing this afternoon remind yourself of the moment she tried to explain what the R rate meant. With delicacy and sophistication, Dr Walcott followed up and tried to correct her, without making a fuss.
It goes right back to this authoritarian leader speaking about things she does not understand then reacting like a frustrated toddler if people do not go along with her warped interpretations.
Bogus words and phrases like a national pause and similar nonsense just feeds her incontrollable ego. I have said before, her speeches lack tone, empathy, understanding – even expressing her sympathy for the dead nursing assistant did not come over as sincere.
I have said to @ William and others that she is the fly in the ointment of the government’s communication strategy, she is the weak link, they should remove her.
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The head of NHS England said tonight that despite some progress the country remains in a “pandemic of disinformation” – in the effort to overcome vaccine hesitancy among some in the Black and south Asian communities.
A new study suggests that public health messages are not getting through to some of those most at risk – NHS workers on the frontline.
Researchers from the University of Leicester found that just 36 per cent of Black staff at the local NHS Trust have come forward for the vaccine and only 58 per cent of south Asians…..(Quote)
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GP February 15, 2021 3:59 PM
“THE WHO IS LED BY A MAN WITH NO MEDICAL OR PUBLIC HEALTH TRAINING”
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What a most slanderously unchristian thing to say about a person whose shoe laces the class-room mock doctor with a worthless piece of outmoded paper qualification from a third rate university-can never tie far less untie!!!
We are prepared to choose the head of the WHO any time over a big Johnny who back a racist loser called Trump.
At least Tedros has enough commonsense not to argue against the thesis that people with compromised immune systems are more at risk of contracting Covid-19 than those with robust immune systems.
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What cannot be refuted is that the WHO is the governing body for global health matters that includes Barbados.
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Hal Austin February 15, 2021 5:17 PM
This afternoon we were promised a press briefing by the CoVid communications team, headed by Dr Walcott, and including the minister, Mr Bostic.
But, after t brief introduction by Dr Walcott and and update by Mr Bostic, the president came on and spoke fort 58 minutes of pure, self-obsessed waffle. Then to spend a long time answering questions.
The nation is in serious crisis and it is badly led by the president. She hs convinced herself that she is in charge and that the virus is under control.
When it is shown that she is not in control, she then blames others. It must be people on social media with fake news, misinformation, who do not know what they are talking about.
Then she gets angry and shots as if she is talking to toddlers, fuming that people are not listening to her. What she cannot accept is that she has lost the trust of people, that they can see through her.
She also has an awful obsession with micro-managing, with repeating things that have already been said as if they would not be understood unless she says them.
Those who listened to the briefing this afternoon remind yourself of the moment she tried to explain what the R rate meant. With delicacy and sophistication, Dr Walcott followed up and tried to correct her, without making a fuss.
It goes right back to this authoritarian leader speaking about things she does not understand then reacting like a frustrated toddler if people do not go along with her warped interpretations.
Bogus words and phrases like a national pause and similar nonsense just feeds her incontrollable ego. I have said before, her speeches lack tone, empathy, understanding – even expressing her sympathy for the dead nursing assistant did not come over as sincere.
I have said to @ William and others that she is the fly in the ointment of the government’s communication strategy, she is the weak link, they should remove her.
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What a whole set of rubbish!!!!
All you’re good for is criticizing for the sake of being critical.
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