The following was posted as a comment by Walter Blackman to the Walter Blackman’s Political Insights blog – David, Blogmaster

Based on the link to the NIS investments, provided by NorthernObserver, all BU readers can now sing from the same Hymn sheet – see link https://www.nis.gov.bb/investments-2/

Here are the facts, and the questions to be asked:

The unemployment Fund is broke. Not a cent is left. No bonds, no cash. Nada. Zilch. Rien.
Where will the money come from to pay current and future unemployment benefits? Remedial action has to come down the pipeline very soon.

Government owes (i.e the politicians misused our money) $2.8 billion to the National Insurance Fund, and $0.1 billion to the Severance Fund. There is no cash in the Severance Fund. Where is the money currently coming from to pay the workers’ severance that employers are refusing to pay?

Is the law being broken with respect to the payment of unemployment and severance benefits?

The only way Government can repay the money owed to the NIS is through taxation. Who will the Government tax to get the $2.9 billion for the NIS?
The Baby Boomers have started to retire and will do so by the thousands every year until 2033. How will their retirement benefits be paid? Something has to be done very soon

At the beginning of 2015, the NIS was paying roughly $40 million per month (just think about the multiplier effect this has on our economy) in NIS retirement pensions. That amounts to $480 million per year, and $960 million over two years.
We can therefore understand what the Chairman of the NIS meant when he said: “there are sufficient funds there that we can see this through at least for the next two years.”

However, the Chairman went on to say: “So there is no cause for concern.”

Every BU reader can now look the Chairman of the NIS fully in the face and say: “We do not agree with your assessment of the NIS, Mr. Chairman. There is great, great cause for concern, and in fact, we are very, very concerned. Next time you speak, please tell us what is the Board’s solutions to the massive NIS problems we face.”

…what are the Board’s solutions?

483 responses to “UNEMPLOYMENT Fund is Broke, Time for Straight Talk Chairman Leslie Haynes”


  1. By the way…

    Do we know when the actuarial report due of the NIS fund will be laid in parliament?

    What is the status of the project to publish up to date audited financials of NIS fund?


  2. Could have been “WB on NIS, severance fund and unemployment funds”


  3. I gave up trying to get and understanding of how money is spent and counted in Barbados.

    If they get a million dollars from the IMF, they jump and act as if it is a lifesaver. Then the next minute they are talking of $50M, $200M or $300M expenditures.

    Now this news.

    To my simple mind, it is just one pot with a thousand labels;

    I am wondering if some of this is bipolar/delusional behavior on the part of our government.

    Calling on John A, WB or a next braniac to give a short description of the various oitd


  4. various pots of the GOB


  5. Breakout de medical weed crops Quick…Mia ???


  6. As I said in March this year, let’s get my great STARVE program started. We need to boost the national treasury.

    With all our impatience we must not forget, however, that our beloved government has reacted absolutely right with the unemployment payments.

    The opposition alone is to blame for the plight of the NIS. The opposition has filled the treasury with worthless government bonds. The people should call the opposition to account for this.


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  8. (Quote):
    Government owes (i.e the politicians misused our money) $2.8 billion to the National Insurance Fund, and $0.1 billion to the Severance Fund. There is no cash in the Severance Fund. Where is the money currently coming from to pay the workers’ severance that employers are refusing to pay? (Unquote).
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Back to square ONE!

    Where is the money coming from to settle those looming large ‘statutory’ liabilities?

    It is looking like the Guv of CB (your understudy in public finance from your days on the Hill) will soon be cranking up the money printing press (again).

    What does Dr. Worrell have to say about this very ill patient call the NIS?


  9. In this type of situation ya don’t know whether to laugh or cry..

    Haynes who can’t find the time to complete personal injury cases or are directing dumb youing lawyers to stagnate the court to a point of dysfunction and keep prolonging those against the elderly unnecessarily, violating the rights of senior citizens under the San Jose Charter for the Rights of the Elderly in Latin America and the Caribbean, he’s a lawyer and should know when he’s violating treaties and charters that the island is signatory to and that can have dire consequences for the vulnerable.

    now this..


  10. Where is the garrulous President? Where is the army of consultants?


  11. Miller…how long have i been talking about this dude and the insurance company and long inexplicable delays at the supreme court with everyone just REFUSING TO FUNCTION to provide a SERVICE or JUSTICE TO THE PUBLIC..although taxpayers are paying them MONTHLY……or in the case of the lawyers they are just being world class pricks…..and ya get the gist that they are all waiting for ya to die..and even worse, but i will leave that full explanation for another time..


  12. Just to be clear…NIS BEING BROKE ….has NOTHING to do with Covid as the liars will soon slither out to gush and gnash teeth over….it’s the corruption, massive thefts, refusal to audit, refusal to comply with Auditor General’s requests…etc…ICBL was given ample time to haul ass before it all blew up…hope the ones who orchestrated that getaway can now face the HEAT….and the FLAMES..


  13. @ Tron

    Did you try de weed mauby
    yet ???

    It’s cool 😎 mate.


  14. DAILY DOSE OF MISERY CONTINUES FOR SOME.

    Accra Hotel can now be added to the companies that workers say have treated them unfairly.

    On Thursday morning at the Rockley, Christ Church property, many former long-time employees, protested after they said they were short-changed on their vacation pay.

    https://www.nationnews.com/2020/11/26/accra-workers-also-protest/


  15. To be fair, the Mia Mottley administration cannot be blamed for the accumulated NIS mess. The PM, the Hon. Ryan Straughn, MP, and the Hon. Marsha Caddle, MP can only put their shoulders to the wheel and try to tackle a job to which an unkind providence has called them.

    A snarling, poverty-stricken, mistrustful, and agitated public will henceforth be nipping at Government’s heels until its appetite for basic necessities has been satisfied – literally and figuratively.

    We can already see the difficult situation the Government is being placed in by employers’ refusal to pay workers their severance. The government is trying to do the right thing for the workers by making sure they get their money. Barbadians want the workers to get their money, but not at the expense of the NIS. In short, they are insisting that the Government gives the employers a “drop kick, pin fall, and submission” and ransack their pockets for the workers’ money.

    Some are seeing the conflict as Barbadians and workers on one side, Government, the unions (except Caswell’s Unity), and employers on the other.

    Uneasy lies the head that wears a ministerial crown.


  16. @ Theo

    Thanks For your kind words but it really is a case of no one wanting to bell the cat for years now.

    The problem started way back and was made worst in recent years by both parties. No audited financials for years and boards appointed as a form of political reward didn’t help it either.

    So let’s look at what happened over the last 10 years. I will use this time as it covers the reign of both the BLP and DLP, as they both hastened the demise of the fund. Also by doing this we remove the party faithfuls from accusing us of taking sides.

    The DLP as we say ” did the dog ” with the fund. That was a period of massive cost overruns on NIS financed projects. So you have now on the NIS books properties at values way in excess of market value. In other words the NIS property holdings are grossly overstated in real terms. Then we had the Sinkyuh printorama which forced the fund to hold government paper way in excess of what was deemed safe. So today the fund has $2.9B in worthless paper and another $2B roughly in overstated real estate holdings.

    Then came along the BLP who implemented a debt restructuring. Now remember the entity most devastated by this was the NIS. Overnight their $2.9B that was earning roughly 7% fell to 1% roughly leaving the fund with an annual income shortfall of roughly $170 million. After doing this goverment made no plan to address the revenue shortfall from the NIS either, so as a result it has been bleeding on this one issue alone nearly $15M a month! Added to this the rents on places like the Grotto can’t begin to service the cost of the projects and you have a perfect storm forming.

    Then came Covid which many would say was the final nail in the coffin. 40,000 unemployed meant benefits had to be paid out to them. But remember it also meant 40,000 were not paying monthly contributions anymore either.

    So in summary you have overstated property assetts and nearly $3 billion in worthless paper, that is of value to no one in a secondary market. Added to this one must include a serious monthly cash flow problem as a result of poor investments and not enough people working to meet the monthly demand on the fund.

    I defy anyone to question these realities and regardless how the party loyalist and politicians dress it up, this is the sad reality we as the shareholders of the fund need to discuss.


  17. They NEVER want to take responsibility for their wicked, corrupt, sellout actions…it’s always, it wasn’t them, the report got it wrong, the people who can clearly see the corruption are racist, they are being blamed because the island is small, always some lie to justify THEM ROBBING THE PEOPLE….for corrupt, wicked criminals in the minority community and to line their own pockets…..the first thing the fake professor living off the black population came out to do was LIE..

    ..the man who compiled the report has been advising for 39 years…he is not a WHITEHOAX…and the MONEY IS MISSING…..these THIEVES NEVER talk about the DAILY INJUSTICES they mete out to the people with glee.

    The REAL INJUSTICE is ILLEGALLY and KNOWINGLY running a slave society AGAINST Black people for over 50 years…while STEALING THEIR FUTURE AND MONEY..

    STEALING from treasury and pension fund to elevate the cows, bizzys, tempros, bjerkhams, maloneys, and the other lowlifes who LIVE OFF BLACK PEOPLE in Barbados….

    STEALING to maintain some delusion that the shite in the parliament, descendants of slaves, are more than they are elected by the BLACK POPULATION TO BE….servants of the people HAVE NO PEDIGREE and should not be boasting about any, since the clown who did, started selling insurance from the early 70s to poor people in the most depressed areas in Barbados, who could not read nor write and he took their money and never gave them anything in return, a common class thief talking about pedigree in 2020 after ripping off Black people in the insurance scam…

    the tax report is right on point about what we know and have been posting about for YEARS….

    David Thompson WROTE OFF taxes for the crooked ass turf club, who knows how many billions of dollars they too stole while allowed to dip their hands into any money generated by the people..
    .
    Mia wrote off 1 BILLION DOLLARS for the minority thieves who STOLE THE VAT at point of sale, when they should be in prison…

    Mia wrote off another 1/2 Million or more for tax evading family, friends and fellow crooks

    Tens of millions has been MISSING from the pension fund FOR YEARS.
    .
    Billions of dollars HAS BEEN STOLEN OVER YEARS from the treasury to maintain the above mentioned minority criminals and their pretend slave master lifestyles AGAINST THE PEOPLE….so yes, it’s been at least 5 BILLION DOLLARS.OR MORE THEY RIPPED OFF FROM THE BLACK POPULATION….and reduced the people to POVERTY.

    pretenders and FRAUDS all of them…

    https://www.nationnews.com/2020/11/27/tax-report-got-wrong/

    “Barbados has been dealt an injustice, and potentially faces “significant” negative impact from an international tax report claiming to have exposed US$5 billion in tax abuse originating here.

    That is the view of prominent American attorney Bruce Zagaris, who has advised Barbados governments on international tax and financial services matters for the last 39 years.

    He says The State Of Tax Justice Report 2020 has got it wrong about Barbados”


  18. These are the tricks they play, while knowing they broke the severence fund, they turned these people all around for their money but could trigger 40 million in the disaster fund to continue to allow the cow, bizzy crooks to feed off the people…

    ….People around the Caribbean must be warned to STAY CLEAR of Barbados and their fraudelent employer system of ripping off workers of benefits….deducting NIS etc and REFUSING to pay it to the people….stealing from workers to elevate crooks in the tourism sector…..treating workers like slaves…

    Caswell has to keep this in the news

    .“I don’t understand, because [National Insurance Scheme] NIS and PAYE were being taken out of our money and we would always get job letters describing us as employees of the Immigration Department and we even got vacation papers like what a temporary government employee would get,” she added.

    Since 2016, the workers have been seeking further information on their employment status and in a letter to the Permanent Secretary, they complained that up to 2007, they were denied paid vacation leave.”

    “Confusion over whether former workers qualify for severance – by Barbados Today Traffic November 26, 2020
    stories by Kareem Smith

    Former data entry clerks at the Immigration Department who were sent home more than a year ago say they are being denied severance payments, gratuity, and/or any form of compensation after more than 15 years of service to the Government.

    The group of 15 workers who were brought in to perform clerical duties, which included filing Embarkation and Disembarkation (ED) immigration forms, became casualties of a new automated system of recording arrivals at the Grantley Adams International Airport which made their jobs virtually redundant.

    After much speculation, the workers were informed on October 2, 2019, that their services were no longer required but that they would be called back into work if the need arose.

    Months passed and after receiving no word, they inquired about their monetary entitlements, only to be informed that, after 20 years of service in some cases, they were not employees but mere “contract workers” and therefore not entitled to severance pay.”


  19. https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/11/26/confusion-over-whether-former-workers-qualify-for-severance/

    here’s the whole link….it’s time Mia and her lies are REPORTED to ILO…slavery is supposed to be abolished over 150 years ago….slave laws are still on the statute books and the relevant agencies must be told what these demons in Barbados do or it will never end…..this is MODERN DAY SLAVERY..stop hiding ya heads in the sand and make these wicked governments pay for enslaving yall..


  20. Let the blogmaster be clear about something. Leslie Haynes should not have been appointed to the important post of chair of the NIS. Why you ask? He did not discharge his fiduciary responsibility as a director of Clico Holdings to the satisfaction given subsequent revelations. He would have had sight of the Board books and therefore have been aware of the questionable decisions taken. Yet today here he is Chairman of the NIS.


  21. The comment above is not meant to attack Leslie Haynes, it is to stress the importance of appointing persons to the job who are not shackled by an obligation to the politicians. The NIS is not only important, it is in crisis and needs leadership at this time. When Haynes was head of the Barbados Bar Association he left it how he found it. What recommends him to the important job of Chairman of the NIS? We need to stop this foolishness.


  22. There is a pending 160 million dollar lawsuit in the Clico scam dragging through the useless supreme court, Haynes is a defendant in that suit as either a director and/or lawyer of Clico, just as David Thompson was, he should never, ever had been put on any NIS board as chair, but that’s how corrupt governments operate, conflicts of interest rules in their little game playing in protecting their fellow wrongdoers….it was either put him as chair in a corrupt state entity or select him as judge in corrupt supreme court that he TOO is STILL HELPING to degrade to nonfunctioning levels., violating the rights of the elderly and other personal injury claimants…

    the latter would have played out the same way as the former…another cockup waiting to be exposed.


  23. Now back to the important point Walter raised. Where is the money coming from to top up the unemployment fund.


  24. I would advise BU commenters to stop posting recovery ideas which will only be TWISTED and MISUSED to continue the Barbados slave plantation for many more years by callous governments…..against the black population…the time, energy and brain power would be better spent SEEKING WAYS of ridding the island of modern day slavery, thefts against and victimization of the people.

    i am doing my part behind the scenes, everyone should make an effort..


  25. 15 ex-Government data entry clerks feeling left out
    What about us?
    That is the cry of 15 former Government data entry clerks who have not received any severance payment since they were sent home last October after working between ten and 20 years for the Immigration Department.
    The all-female group is concerned that the National Insurance Department has been forking out thousands of dollars to pay private sector workers, while they have been told they are not entitled to any money because they were not registered with the Personnel Administration Division (PAD).
    Charlene Ward, spokesperson for some members of the group, said they were employed to file the Embarkation and Disembarkation (ED) forms for visitors but were made redundant when a computerisation system was put into effect.
    However, she said they underwent training in the digitisation programme and were told they would be integrated into the system by December 2019.
    However, Ward said previously retrenched workers from the public sector were hired to do the digitisation while they were left out.
    “We visited the Labour Office; PAD, the Home Affairs Office and they say they can’t do anything for us because we were not in the Government system and we were not registered by PAD. So really and truly we were employed by the Immigration Department but we did not come through PAD. They are saying that we were contract workers but we never signed any contract,” Ward declared, pointing out that over the years they tried unsuccessfully to get their status regularised.
    She said that after they were sent home they also had to fight to receive unemployment benefits.
    “They did not want to give us the papers for unemployment because they were telling us that those who were due vacation should take vacation leave and the others would be placed on no-pay leave.”
    Ward, 35, who took up the data entry job straight out of school, said many of them were going through hardships because they were still unemployed. And while she is happy to see private sector workers being paid severance, she believes that people like herself who worked hard for the Government should not be excluded.
    They have retained the services of head of the Unity Workers Union, Senator Caswell Franklyn, who told the Weekend Nation they were entitled to severance.
    (MB)


  26. @ Dirt Farmer November 26, 2020 8:26 PM

    When you believe in our Grand Leader you do not need any drugs.

  27. NorthernObserver Avatar

    Top-up? You think this is a cell phone.
    I already called it SUPER a few days back….Severance and Unemployment, you can fill in the PER to suit.

    Wait @Tron, MAM gone from Supreme to Grand. She slipping skipper.


  28. @NorthernObserver

    Isn’t that what they have been doing, topping up with taxpayers holding the bag?

  29. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    For years these 3% of the population were allowed to steal form the Barbados Treasury and hence the people of Barbados. All kinds of statutory deductions they have not paid. No bid contracts for years. Paid millions for years and did shoddy work especially in road construction.

    Yet their Political yardfowls have covered up for them at the EXPENCE OF BLACK PEOPLE.

    Now they are breaking the Laws against against BLACK PEOPLE with impunity by not paying THEM their SEVERENCE PAY. And little is being done as usual by the Govt.

    After being voted in 30-0.


  30. How can 3% steal from the fund if the decisions about the fund are made by people of your colour?

    Steuspe

  31. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    Are we looking to LESLIE HAYNES for help????

    Is the RAT looking to the CAT FOR help?????


  32. We are looking for the yardfowls to change their diet from grain.

  33. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    They are OREOS.

    BUT YOU WONT GET IT.

  34. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    Then are you willing to change your diet?????


  35. @ Waru,
    I Agree with your statement at 6.17.

    There are no remaining back doors for this government to wriggle through. The decades of absolute corruption can no longer be camouflaged by this current administration. She knows it; you know it and so do the vast majority of Barbadians.

    Under the Roman empire. One would have been handed a knife. You would have slit your own wrists and transition yourself to another world.

    Barbadians must prepare themselves for an alternative to the BLP or the DLP. I cannot think of anything worse than workers who have been deprived of payments that they have earned. The clock is ticking on this administration. We may soon be witnessing a social tsunami in Barbados.

  36. NorthernObserver Avatar

    That maybe too simplistic, but the ultimate result.
    Recall, after IMF landed, one of the first observations, was the GoB had been collecting NI deductions from its employees, but withholding them from the NIS….using them to fund government. The inter-governmental books were likely a delight. So it is pure speculation as to precisely what transpired. They were swapping cash for IOU’s.
    Anyhow I am assured that @Miller will be quick to tell you how to turn a US$1M loan from BDD$2M to BDD$6M.

  37. Carson C Cadogan Avatar

    You still have any teeth left????


  38. “Under the Roman empire. One would have been handed a knife. You would have slit your own wrists and transition yourself to another world”

    sounds ideal to me, once the next world is warned about what to expect from them…they all need to be kept in a state of permanent dimensional purgatory, never to stain and curse our world with their evil presence ever again..


  39. @ David.

    You see why it is impossible to discuss anything seriously. Everything here boils down to colour and politics. Attempt at any real discussion is therefore pointless.

  40. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    They are correct the fund is not broke since they have nearly 4 billion in assets but they do have a separation of funds as well as an accounting problem which we already know.

    This looks like a General Ledger accounting problem where funds are not debited from or credited to the various funds on a timely basis. We are told every contribution we make is broken down by percentage and put into various funds. But the website seems to indicate that all contributions are all going into consolidated accounts and various funds are recapitalized periodically or when funds become depleted as opposed to periodic inter-ledger transfers to the various funds on a weekly or monthly basis as is done with most accounting systems. Ideally these transfers should be done on a weekly basis since the contribution scheme is based on weekly Monday contributions if memory serves me right.

    The evidence of this is the exact amounts rounded to thousands held in various funds over the years e.g. Unemployment Funds Deposits at 12/31/2018. Those would have to be amounts manually transferred to keep funds at a specific level.


  41. Am very proud of our people for FINALLY TAKING A STAND…Barbados’ modern day slave plantation CANNOT CONTINUE…this is the only way to TEAR IT DOWN…next stop international human rights courts…

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/11/27/broke-and-broken-hearted/

    “Broke and broken-hearted – by Kareem Smith November 27, 2020
    Long-standing employees of the award-winning Accra Beach Hotel on the South Coast say they’ve gotten nothing but disrespect in return for years of dedication to their former employer and the country’s tourism industry.

    On Thursday, approximately 30 of them joined a growing number of disgruntled hotel workers demanding that the Government and other relevant agencies take a deeper look at the inner workings of the glorified sector.

    During a three-hour protest outside the Rockley, Christ Church property, workers accused their former bosses of attempting to deprive them of vacation pay, while simply refusing to inform them about how and when their severance would be forthcoming.”


  42. It’s clear that the FUND IS BROKE…has no severance money left…and only sitting on …a few millions-to billions in PENSION MONEY….did Haynes not say it’s 2 YEARS WORTH LEFT which EQUALS….the NIS IS BROKE……2 years worth of pension money MUST BE PAID OUT…then what…

    that’s what happens when ya place halfassed lawyers to chair an entity in which they are not fully trained..


  43. Do the math yaselves. especially if what is being posted to another forum is true that over 70, 000 are out work, not sure about the total workforce because of fluctuations, but given current conditions it’s quite possible….they can’t even TIEF THE PEOPLE’S NIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO REPLENISH the fund..

    no jobs = NO contributions…not even to tief…


  44. Critical Analyzer November 27, 2020 8:15 AM

    I don’t agree it’s a problem with the accounting, because government uses computerized accounting systems that allow for transactions to be immediately posted to the relevant accounts. As such, there isn’t any excuses management could offer for their failure to produce monthly financial statements.

    So, it’s a simple matter of incompetency.


  45. @ WURA
    “ There is a pending 160 million dollar lawsuit in the Clico scam dragging through the useless supreme court, Haynes is a defendant in that suit as either a director and/or lawyer of Clico, just as David Thompson was, he should never, ever had been put on any NIS board as chair, but that’s how corrupt governments operate, conflicts of interest rules in their little game playing in protecting their fellow wrongdoers….it was either put him as chair in a corrupt state entity or select him as judge in corrupt supreme court that he TOO is STILL HELPING to degrade to nonfunctioning levels., violating the rights of the elderly and other personal injury claimants…”
    You are one hundred per cent correct again. That’s the point the long lines of jokers intentionally miss because they are afraid to speak directly to the issue. We fool ourselves we are all technocrats , and playing with decimals and spouting useless cliches will solve the problem. That’s exactly what we were educated to do.
    Another problem is that we all have to “eat” so while on BU , we shout loud , the work comes from either connections in Roebuck and or George Street ,so the little submissions are just a part of the game.
    How on earth we could write these lengthy epistles and some how forget that employers have been carrying out direct and bold face theft against the black working class? Tell me what degree or qualifications can solve that. I always thought that the same law enforcement agency that arrested and charged a citizen for stealing a tube of tooth paste would handle that. How come Donville Innis is in prison while white employers both expatriate and local can bluntly refuse to pay VAT and national insurance with no penalty. Why these crocodile tears from Mottley when she gave them over a billion dollars forgiveness for breaking the law and not paying taxes.
    And we must be honest and pursue the Black ones as well. They drew out the Barak construction issue; Arthur refused to pay a relatively small settlement and then the taxpayers ended up making the same Barak richer than he could have ever dreamed. Who were Barak lawyers. At least two BLP high ranking MPS.
    Who is COW lawyer- a Former MP
    and a recent President of the Senate.
    Who was CLICO lawyer a late MP and PM.
    Whose law firm represents Sandals?

    Peace.


  46. @John A

    That will be dealt with soon if it continues.


  47. Mia was told since last year that she will not get away with pushing the black population on to marijuana slave plantations that she ALREADY sold out to whites and others so they can continue their slave master roles against our people of discriminaton, racism, low salaries and no benefits…..just because she HATED the idea of seeing the SAME BLACK PEOPLE WHO ELECTED HER…with the marijuana trade, hate the idea of black people becoming wealthy and determining their own future and destiny, so she should tell her white canadians and others with their security guards and big dogs that it’s not going to happen WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES…


  48. @NO

    Simplistic for who, the government? The taxpayers ultimately will be left holding the bag however which way you twist it.


  49. Barbados Today editorial put Mia on blast for insulting the bajan public along with her nonsensical utterances of attacking media and public officials who spoke out on behalf of the hotel workers fighting for there severance payments
    The Editorial spoke a truth which needed to to be told to Mia and Toni Moore
    About time media find there balls when it comes to govt misleading and untruthful policies


  50. Back to Walter’s question- what will the Board have to do to right the ship.

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