Submitted by Kammie Holder
The attached photos were are all taken from the Nation newspaper online.
Perhaps, this may be a rare case of inferiority complex raising its head if the relaxed attitude towards the accused shown last week is used as a yardstick to juxtapose the one of Leroy Parris. Neither am I of the opinion this was a deliberate case of self hate but more of a desire to be nice to accused.
However, the question begs are double standards at play, according to position, wealth, race, or public outcry?
What message is been sent to society and international partners when accused black boys are treated with tight handcuffs and some elite are allowed to take picnic strolls?
This is something the local Black Lives Matter agitators should be keeping noise about for this smacks of inequality and institutional self hate. Did the country not see Leroy Parris a man with significant assets in handcuffs and ever so often little black boys charged with a spliff?
This is a sad day in the history of the Royal Barbados Police Force and must not only be publicly condemned but investigated. I will not hold my breath in a society that leaves everything to their god. But what do we expect from an establishment formed as a force in 1835 and still not a service in 2020. If ever we wanted evidence that our society is divided how we treat each other, we need not look any further. Such happenings undermine the good name of the Royal Barbados Police Force and can create distrust among the masses. The silence of those who champion social justice is disturbingly silent, no wonder many see the local black life movement as a farce.
We can continue to selfishly ignore and dismiss wrongs until it hit homes. Each one of us must be craftsmen of our fate and strict guardians of our heritage. Stop taking your freedoms for granted and never accept silence in the presence of inequality as an option. Perception can overwhelm facts and turn truth on its head.
The people have to STOP black sellout leaders in the parliament from treating them like 2nd CLASS CITIZENS in a country their ancestors were ENSLAVED TO BUILD and which they themselves FUND, it’s time this evil that these clowns continue to practice stops, they have been doing it for 60 years in every election cycle, you have been given the TOOLS TO STOP THEM…make use of it, you are very welcome.
…do not let the opportunity go to waste and then continue to complain…it is very clear that your black leaders are a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER to African people everywhere, as they have always been, and as must now be shown to the world to warn African people everywhere.
No more excuses, do not allow your ancestors’ brutal enslavement be in vain nor should you allow your own 60 years of equally brutal oppression, racism, exploitation and disenfranchisement at the hands of black sellout leaders go unpunished, this one is on you, no one else and you will have to answer to your children and grandchildren for allowing it to continue to their detriment.
https://youtu.be/rkZlymKirC8
i would like to know why the picture of Parris is in full relief whilst that of the first man i suspect to be Nadur isnt? i cant tell whether Nadur is handcuffed or not. nonetheless the author has a point
@Greene
Updated.
@Kammie
This is Barbados at its best. I am sure Mr Nadur will be freed on some technicality and may even be compensated. Barbadian criminal law is aimed solely at the boys on the block. Others may get caught in the sweeping net.
https://www.facebook.com/NationBarbados/videos/1207650649612111/
@Greene
Did the Police issue a statement about this matter when it was raised in the Parris court appearance? It is the supervising police officer’s call.
that is better and fully drives home the author’s point. it begs a question of the Bim po po. isnt there a policy on whether prisoners are handcuffed or not?
Nuff long talk
This scenario has been going on forever
Nothing new here to tie up self in knots
Charles Herbert and his accomplice were treated like wise
Never heard loud outburst
Steupse guh long do
Wake up this is bubadus
David,
i dont understand. are you saying the police issued a statement explaining their handcuffing policy when the Parris incident was ventilated? and that policy states handcuffing is discretionary?
@Greene
They did.
Handcuffing a prisoner should be a security issue, not discretionary. But, of course, in Barbados they make it up as they go along. In any case, that practice of walking prisoners through the open court yard is a massive security risk.
It may be nice for the photographers, but wow. This is proof that there is no really serious gang crime in Barbados. Can you imagine armed people ambushing the police and freeing a fellow gang member?
Can you imagine Mia and the Late David Thompson cooling out in Goodings Land pulling a spliff?
#steuspe
David,
wish we could have a read to juxtapose against what this author is saying? could you oblige please?
Hopefully a BU member can, the blogmaster is unavoidably engaged for the next couple hours.
@David
Supervising Officer’s call? Why are you mekking sport so early in the am? Shouldn’t there be a standard policy with regards to how accused are handled before and after Court appearances? I have seen so many low- level offenders being led in and out of Court in handcuffs that I thought it was mandatory but now I hear something about “Supervising offcer’s call”.
As to the supervising officer in Nadur’s case someone should give him a copy of Austin Clark’s “Growing up stupid under the Union Jack” as it is still very relevant today but then again the irony might escape him.
For me the sad thing is that the higherups and better offs associated with the coverup of the CLICO scandal are not on parade as well and it all falls to Leroy Parris.
Regarding the ammunition charge against Zack Nadur I note a similar charge was laid against Richard Arthur, the brother of Owen Arthur and that seemed to take forever to even get to court.
Not really forever, but approaching 10 years.
I also see in Barbados Today that Vonda Pile, the lawyer incarcerated for stealing her client’s money is out on bail awaiting her appeal and is practicing the black art of law once again.
Oh my god, if the discretion is that of the supervisor, if he is a person suffering from an inferiority complex, then expect his race whatever it is to be unfairly treated in favor of what ever race she feels superior.
The optics are extremely wrong and if its discretionary then its open to abuse and corrupt influences.
Perhaps, I am making a fuss about nothing until it impacts you when you meet an officer whose ego does not accept getting challenged or questionning his/authority authority. An ego is like power, dangerous without control.
https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/05/22/richard-arthur-found-guilty/#:~:text=%2D%20by%20Sandy%20Deane%20May%2022%2C%202019&text=A%20nine%2Dmember%20jury%20today,valid%20licence%20to%20do%20so.
Kammie HolderSeptember 15, 2020 8:30 AM
The optics are extremely wrong and if its discretionary then its open to abuse and corrupt influences.
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If you realise how many things occur at the “discretion of the court” you would have a cat fit!!
Bail is one!!
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Discretion+of+the+Court
The optics may seem strange but you should do some more digging to understand the logic if it exists,
I don’t understand it either but I have not done any digging!!
A person remanded to Dodds makes the trek to Bridgetown on the Prison Bus to have his application for bail heard and the court determine its disposition.
The person’s freedom has been taken away by the court already.
He appears in handcuffs, sometimes leg shackles.
At the old court, bail hearings took precedence over all other matters for the simple reason that an individual’s freedom had been taken away and his application needed to be heard as an urgent matter.
Might be as simple as Parris is known to the court and Nadur is not.
What you may actually be watching is a man is considered innocent until proven guilty.
@David Blogmaster, your cartoon caption is actually quite suitably provocative and interesting for debate … 😎
@Kammie, respectfully bro but how is this a BLM issue really … if you want to argue the “suffering from an inferiority complex” point then I would join you … But if the cops are Black and too the accusers, antagonists, prosecutors, judges and the majority of ‘bad boys’ … whereas several elite members of society who are BLACK are NOT treated like these ‘lower-class’ bad-boys how is this truly a BLM isssue!
WHY are you conflating and anecdotally juxtaposing societal CLASS issues with racial profiling
Of course the police should have a set policy re accused and use of handcuffs at court and just as surely their “discretionary” policy likely means that all accused for violent crimes will be handcuffed (by discretion to prevent acting out) and those before the courts for non-violent crimes MAY be managed sans the metal bracelets
Now, I will further offer that if I were supervising the multi millionaire Parris’s trip to court that I would have handcuffed, shackled and demanded that he be placed in a freaking prison jumpsuit and not his Brooks Brothers tweed!
I get the race thing but this is moreso a CLASS issue and as the blogger above noted it’s too long in the tooth to be ‘sucking our teetes’ so resolutely now.
Sorry bro I would not waste one damn sec of breath defending anything that befalls that particular black-man … he cannot be the poster child or reference point for anything to do with EQUITABLE justice… NEVER!
Black Lives do Matter … but tell that to Leroy Parris.
This is something the local Black Lives Matter agitators should be keeping noise about for this smacks of inequality and institutional self hate.
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It is rather irresponsible to to fan the flames of hatred of this marxist organisation without doing your due diligence.
These are fragile people.
When the heck are you all going to accept that whites and the other races are treated ” differently ” in Barbados.
Trying to use the so called Black elite to obfuscate the discriminatory treatment of ordinary black Bajans will not fool those who have seen this bull spit with their own eyes.
Any person charged with the illegal possession of a gun / ammunition should be in handcuffs from the moment he/she is arrested.
@ Quaker John,
You are vile. For someone with your views living in a majority black country, someone should come round and try to persuade you why your views are wrong. This is not a game.
“Luk at he, he ain’ look like ‘e belung in prison”
The goodly gentleman does not look like a criminal so should not be in cuffs, far less be placed in prison.
So was it really 100 kilos of COCAINE or not?…asking for a friend..
and who keeps 50 bullets in their house without a gun, unless they are selling ammunition…
My view is very simple, understand the workings of the law before spouting off on its practices.
Depriving any individual of his/her freedom is a serious matter in what is often referred to as a democracy!!
In some more advanced societies, handcuffs are not even used!!
https://tilakmarg.com/opinion/why-arrested-persons-are-not-handcuffed-by-police-in-india/
Even in merry old England !!
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/handcuffing-defendants
Some journalists in the UK don’t do their due diligence!!
Yes, we have double standards in Barbados. The naive masses pay no land tax and lime around in the civil service or at the expense of NIS, whereas the top-performers of society (businessmen, expats and others) pay 10 – 30K per year for land tax alone per year.
That sound like apartheid at the expense of the latter group to me! If government does not fix the unjust land tax soon, we face riots in Bridgetown. Some outspoken high lords of this island want to remove the monuments of the socialist radical Barrow who is mainly responsible for this mess.
Pictures tells a thousand tales.
De Nations photos are defined proof of our native bajan segregated double standards.
“Perception can overwhelm facts and turn truth on its head”.
Always do in our society….
“Where a defendant appears before a court, it is for the court not police or security staff to decide whether or not she/he should be handcuffed: R v Cambridgeshire Justices, ex p. Peacock, 156 JP 895, DC; The Times, 30 July, 1992.
Any application that the defendant should be restrained should be heard inter partes: R v Rollison, 161 JP 107, CA.
Where handcuffs are unjustifiably resorted to, their use will constitute a civil trespass even though the arrest itself is lawful: (Taylor (1895) 59 JP, 393; Bibby v Chief Constable of Essex (2000) 164 JP, 297). It may also violate Articles 3 (degrading treatment) and 6 (the right to a fair trial, and the presumption of innocence) of the ECHR. The rights of the suspects need to be balanced against public safety, and legitimate reasons put forward for handcuffing in court. Any derogation from these principles must be strictly justified.”
@John
The point at issue is whether the handcuffing of persons about to appear before the court should be discretionary, that is the period from police custody to court docket.
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Kammie, you need to do your due diligence and if you find different to what you are saying, correct yourself.
The BLM volk are fragile and prone to fits of rage and anger.
@ John September 15, 2020 11:02 AM
The BLM death squad even wanted to kill the police officers in the emergency room in LA.
I know many people in Barbados who are considering selling their properties since they feel not safe anymore under such hostile conditions. First the opposition forces government to double the land tax and then they unleash Presccott and his squad. I guess the next step is expropriation, violence and murder.
Our government must stop the opposition (including Presscott) at any cost!
Custody?
Best practice guidance for Custody Management Directions was issued by the Lord Chief Justice in April 2010. The objective of the guidance is to ensure that wherever possible the risk of escape or violence by prisoners is identified in advance of a court appearance and is managed by introducing appropriate arrangements that do not unnecessarily prejudice the prisoner. The jury must be free to decide upon the guilt or innocence of the defendant without the risk of being influenced against him by sight of restraint which in their minds suggests that he is regarded with good cause as being a dangerous criminal. Even at hearings where no jury is present, applications for restraint must be scrutinised and strictly justified.
Where a defendant appears before a court, it is for the court not police or security staff to decide whether or not she/he should be handcuffed: R v Cambridgeshire Justices, ex p. Peacock, 156 JP 895, DC; The Times, 30 July, 1992.
Any application that the defendant should be restrained should be heard inter partes: R v Rollison, 161 JP 107, CA.
Where handcuffs are unjustifiably resorted to, their use will constitute a civil trespass even though the arrest itself is lawful: (Taylor (1895) 59 JP, 393; Bibby v Chief Constable of Essex (2000) 164 JP, 297). It may also violate Articles 3 (degrading treatment) and 6 (the right to a fair trial, and the presumption of innocence) of the ECHR. The rights of the suspects need to be balanced against public safety, and legitimate reasons put forward for handcuffing in court. Any derogation from these principles must be strictly justified.
Black Bajan native suspects are always handcuffed.
DavidSeptember 15, 2020 11:04 AM
@John
The point at issue is whether the handcuffing of persons about to appear before the court should be discretionary, that is the period from police custody to court
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Is the person guilty or innocent?
Has the court already deprived the person of liberty?
What was Leroy Parris’ legal status when he appeared in the picture?
… the black art of the practice of the law needs to be comprehended before going down this road.
Things are never as they seem!!
Kammie
Do your due diligence.
Former journalists don’t worry about such niceties but I don’t think you are a former journalist.
English case law whilst persuasive is not binding on Bim’s court. the court may consider the precedent or law but it is not bound to adapt it. laws and precedent from the Privy Council were.
in any case the Bim police are free to implement policies when it comes to persons in its custody going to court with due regard to safety of its officers, safety of the person in custody and the general public. there are bound to be exemptions.i.e. the infirm, persons with injuries to wrists etc.
if a person has been charge, is in the custody of the police and is going to court, he is a prisoner of the police who are responsible for his welfare and safekeeping
Black John…what got you so upset, is it because ya have to share the shipment with others or what.
What message is been sent to society and international partners when accused black boys are treated with tight handcuffs and some elite are allowed to take picnic strolls?
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The so called “black boys” to whom you refer are brought to court as a group in the prison bus, placed in detention areas, and appear one by one as their application for bail is to be heard.
They are handcuffed.
They were on remand at Dodds.
The court has already deprived them of their liberty.
When they appear before the judge they do so with this fact known to the court.
Was Nadur on remand when he appeared before the court?
Did the prosecution object to his application for bail?
What about Leroy Parris.
Did the prosecution object to his bail?
What were the relative sizes of bail, Parris vs Nadur?
We know Leroy Parris’ bail was $1.5 million.
Seems like the prosecution considered Leroy Parris to be huge flight risk.
Kammie
You are not thinking!!
So what do yall think about this one.
“The chief of the Compton sheriff’s department ( Alex Villanueva ) has a racist gang of Latino deputies named The Executioners, which he has refused to disband.. These officers don’t allow blacks or females to join their little racist group. They have tattoo parties to celebrate theirbeatings and shootings of Compton civilians.
The black female mayor of Compton (Aja Briwn) was once stopped by them and had her car searched for drugs, even though her children were in the back seat. The let her go when they realized she was the mayor.
Aja said the Compton sheriff’s department is terrorizing her city.
They shot a young Latino security guard five times in the back because he ran from them about three months ago. They cost the tax payers 50 million dollars in lawsuits every year.
Forty percent of the officers in this department belong to this brutal and racist organization.
Their cheif (Villanueva) was on the news the other day challenging basketball superstar
LeBron James to match the 100,000 reward for the recent Compton cop shooter, because of Jame’s speaking out on police brutally and his support for the Black Lives Matter movement.
LeBron said when the cheif cleans his department of the racist Exexutioner gang of cops he will gladly match the reward for the shooter.
BlackArchaeologist.com”
Parris s Bajan, ya ever see his house, pure palace…
Nadur is syrian you goat..
So….he is vile now, is he?
But looka muh crosses!
The king has proclaimed what the peasant girl was berated for saying!
Wura,
These people don’t understand that LeBron can do more than dribble.
They ain’t seen nothin’ yet!
Give them a moment to get it..
Incident — Sgt 1045 Niles reported that as a result of a report made to the Oistins Police Station Sgt Niles and Con 800 Chandler, who were on mobile patrol, responded to the Popular Discount Supermarket, Kendal Hill, Christ Church upon arrival they saw a lady who was quickly identified as Con 1432 Tisha Walton, a member of S.C.A.T. and who was off duty dressed in plain clothes holding a man who was identified as Olfric Roy Gooding 62yrs of Sealy Hall #1, St John against a fence to the perimeter of the supermarket. A the time Pc Walton was behaving in a loud and cantankerous manner, in full view of a number of civilians who had gathered. Investigations thus far have revealed that Mr Gooding drove a green Hyundai Accent motor car registration J-4599 to the same supermarket, arriving there about 18.00hrs. Having dropped off his two female passengers, he chose to park to the northern side, almost opposite the closest drive way in front of the supermarket, on the road way leading towards the exit. Whilst waiting, he decided to sit on the trunk of his car.
Meanwhile, PC Walton drove her motor car, a silver Suzuki SX4 Sedan, registration XA-5441, onto the compound. In trying to find a parking space, she saw one to the far northern end of the front car parking area, close to the supermarket. As this space was at the end, she exited the driveway and turned left in order to reverse but, in her words the positioning of Mr Gooding’s car, she was unable to make the parking manoeuvrer. After attempts, she became annoyed. As she placed the blame on the car which had parked on the opposite side. She then shouted at Mr Gooding to move the car, which he seemed either to have heard or just ignored. After repeating herself, she got out of her car and went over to him. She demanded quite aggressively for him to move the car. He informed her that he was waiting for someone in the supermarket and that the positioning of the car in no way impeded her from parking. Pc Walton became angrier looked into the car to see if the keys were inside and he asked her why she did that. She responded that she wanted the car move and to move it. Mr Gooding then informed her that the driver was inside the supermarket. Pc Walton then demanded that he go into the supermarket and fetched the driver. He responded that he was and he suggested that she should go herself and find the driver. Becoming even more infuriated and by this time a female security officer from the supermarket had arrived. Pc Walton then grabbed Mr Gooding by his chest and pulled him off the car and demanded that he accompany her and the security officer into the supermarket, in order to find the driver. Having being pulled down off the car, he resisted by standing firm. Pc Walton realising that the man was standing his ground, tugged a little harder, which caused his shirt to rip and she lost her grip and stumbled with explicit words being used. She then told Mr Gooding that he has to go with her to find the driver. He once again refused and she told him that she was arresting him for parking within ten meters of a corner and that he obstructed her by not going for the driver. She then pushed him back against he fence and continued her triad. In the meantime several persons stopped and were witnessing what was happening including two unknown females who were looking over the fence from the gas station, Shakayla Goodridge 22yrs of # 66 Hillside Road, Gall Hill, St John and an attorney Jamille Lorde 30yrs of Heddings New Road, St Philip who was with her boyfriend Jabarrie Prescod of Fairfield Road, Black Rock, St Michael. Shakayla, along with others, voiced their opposition against the way Pc Walton was behaving.
In the meantime, Sgt 1045 Niles and Pc Chandler arrived about 19.45hrs and saw Pc Walton still holding Mr Gooding against the fence. It took then a period of time to get Pc Walton to released him as she remained vocal and adamant that she had arrested him. When they physically managed to get the man away Pc Walton turned her hostility towards Pc Chandler insisting that she should hold onto the man. When Pc Chandler was trying to calm her down Pc Walton cursed her and told her that she was just a constable and could not tell her (Walton) what to do. Sgt Niles explained that he was going to allow the man to move his car and park it properly and then take him to the station. This pleased her and after the man had moved his car Pc Walton got into hers and turned around and drove straight to where Shakayla was standing, stopped , got out of her car and rushed straight to her, held her by the neck and began choking her.
Pc Walton then pulled her hair and told her that she was arresting her for obstruction. As soon as her hair got pulled, Shakayla retaliated and a scuffle ensued. Within moments canine personnel Pc 2024 Burton and another, along with Pc 2212 Williams and Pc 2248 Waldron from Traffic arrived and assisted by separating the two. The attorney Miss Lorde witnessed the entire incident as it unfolded.
Having brought Shakayla to the station, the Traffic Officers invited her sit in the front foyer of the station. Sometime after Pc Walton arrived and having entered the station office and saw Shakayla, in an aggressive manner, demanded to know why she was there sitting and not within the station office. She became belligerent in the full view of Pc 2022 Knight, Pc 2202 Maynard and Pc 800 Chandler which prompted both female officers to step between the two, in order to avoid a physical confrontation. Shakayla was invited within the station office, while Pc Walton remained in the foyer, having a heated exchanged of words with Pc 800 Chandler. Sgt 1688 Best and Pc 2092 Springer of S.C.A.T.S arrived at the station eventually followed by Insp Cadogan. Insp Watson and S/Supt Rowe were contacted and appraised. Insp Watson eventually arrived. Statements were recorded from Mr. Gooding, Miss Goodridge, Sgt Nile and Pc 800 Chandler.
Mr. Gooding made no complaints of pain, while Miss Goodridge complained of pains to her chest and neck. A Medical Report Form was issued. Meanwhile the P.M.O Dr Ross Herbert was contacted and Pc Walton was taken to the QEH where she was examined for pains to her right hand and feet. She also had an x-ray on her right hand and everything was okay. Further arrangements were made for her to be returned on the 2020-09-15 at 16.00hrs for further evaluation.
What a rabid beast.
Let’s see if they fire that thing before she kills someone.
Rah RahSeptember 15, 2020 2:37 PM
So what’s your point?
Some women are very aggressive.
neglect of duty by the police. Pc Walton should have been arrested for assaulting Shakayla
Is this officer going to be suspended?
Handcuffing or not should not be discretionary.
That said perhaps only those charged with violent, gun or serious drug offenses should be handcuffed. No need to handcuff the people charged with stealing a package of salt bread or a jar of hair grease.
The old big guts fella Nadur likely can’t run 100 meters. A strong young fella, black or white, but in a majority black country likely black can like Winstorn Hall run for years.
@Hal Austin September 15, 2020 8:02 AM “This is proof that there is no really serious gang crime in Barbados. ”
True.
In spite of being a “failed state” most of us a still good church going men and women.
@John September 15, 2020 9:08 AM “What you may actually be watching is a man is considered innocent until proven guilty.”
So the “bad boys on the block” are not also to be considered innocent until proven guilty?
If you doubt me, ask their mothers. All of them are good boys who would do anything for anybody.
@John September 15, 2020 9:16 AM “It is rather irresponsible to to fan the flames of hatred.”
What flames of hatred?
You are on here morning, noon and night with your white supremacist views, and yet none of us black Bajans have ever touched a hair on your head. I’ve heard that the only violence even done to you was done by your own white kinsmen.
Hatred what.
BLACK LIVES DO MATTER.
@Dullard September 15, 2020 10:25 AM “The goodly gentleman.”
I have my doubts about whether he is goodly or a gentleman, but maybe I am just a bad minded, lower class, elderly black woman.
@Tron September 15, 2020 10:54 AM “Yes, we have double standards in Barbados. The naive masses pay no land tax and lime around in the civil service or at the expense of NIS, whereas the top-performers of society (businessmen, expats and others) pay 10 – 30K per year for land tax alone per year. That sound like apartheid at the expense of the latter group to me! ”
i just sent my land tax bills by post office express to Tron, since i am one of the “naive masses [who] pay no land tax” and never had a job in the civil service, even though I applied to join the service 49 years ago.
The land tax bill is for $2,028
The income tax bill when last I was in paid work was $22, 487.
The truth is that poor people pay a greater percentage of their income in taxes than do rich people. Only liars like Trron will try to deny this. When I buy a roll of toilet paper or a bar of soap I pay the same 17.50% of VAT on it as does billionaires like Tron. And that 17.50% is a much greater portion of my income than it is of the billionaire’s income.
And poor people have zero access to fancy accountants and lawyers to help them avoid punitive taxes.
This ZR catching, bad minded, silly, old, lower class, rural woman is sick and tired of dishonest people like Tron.
‘So the “bad boys on the block” are not also to be considered innocent until proven guilty?’
I am always amused at how cuhdear shreds some posts.
Whatever Tisha was smoking i want summa dat, seems to me it would make a great pick me up.
lolll!!!
I once interviewed a woman called Walton, a right igrunt ‘itch.
No. She did not get what she was interviewing for.
Lolll!!!
Cuhdear BajanSeptember 15, 2020 3:05 PM
@John September 15, 2020 9:08 AM “What you may actually be watching is a man is considered innocent until proven guilty.”
So the “bad boys on the block” are not also to be considered innocent until proven guilty?
If you doubt me, ask their mothers. All of them are good boys who would do anything for anybody.
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The bad boys on the block which we see cuffed in the papers and whose Moms swear they are innocent, are on remand coming to court courtesy of the prison shuttle to ask for bail.
Their liberty has been taken already by the court.
They are bound to appear in handcuffs.
This is not rocket science.
She isn’t just aggressive. She is a bloody lunatic!
Cuhdear BajanSeptember 15, 2020 2:58 PM
Handcuffing or not should not be discretionary.
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What do you think the police would do if they had to apprehend this lady and deliver her to court?
@Quaker John
that is pure bollocks. persons in police custody whether at arrest or attending court can be handcuffed and this has nothing to do with guilt or innocence. it is a matter of whether the police has a policy to handcuff everyone or it is discretionary. it appears that it is discretionary in Bim
Ask her nicely to voluntarily come to court.
@Donna September 15, 2020 4:47 PM “She isn’t just aggressive. She is a bloody lunatic!”
Thank God that neither you nor I are in an [un]civil union wit her.
Cuhdear already catspraddled/ castrated him. Saw his weak recovery attempt.
Cuhdear Bajan,
Never! Too old for that kinda crap!
Punctuation is a thing
Never too old for that kind of crap.
I’ve been through the “black boys”, 9 or 10 of them, the Magistrate’s court and the high court.
I am speaking from experience and enjoying the nonsensical theories advanced here!!
Most on here have only seen a picture in the paper.
[Update: 4 pm, September 8, 2020]
Zack Robert Nadur, a businessman of South Ridge Christ Church, was remanded to HMP Dodds until October 6, after appearing before Magistrate Douglas Fredrick in the District B Magistrates Court this morning.
Nadur was charged with the unlawful possession of 50 rounds of .32 ammunition at his residence without having a licence.
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If on October 6 Zack Nadur, having been remanded to Dodds on 8th September does not appear in handcuffs like all the “black boys” who are on remand then Kammie might have a story.
I think he has jumped the gun!!
@John I bet he will as they will have seen the public outcry. Here in London its not discretionary. Wunna blokes are crazy and prone to corruption and favoritism.
Tisha the police lady needs to be suspended without pay. Went to secondary school with the Commish and he is a straight guy and I do not think he will let Tisha off the hook.
UKD
What stage of the process are you talking about?
@TheoGazerts September 15, 2020 5:08 PM “Cuhdear already…castrated him.
Take not that I do not wish to deprive John of his testicles, just of his deceit
Donna…i keep asking John if he had to give up his share of the shipment, whether cocaine or guns and ammunition, to pay off someone to have memory loss…either way it appears that Black John is closely aligned with the Syrian cartel, even if only as a water carrier.
neglect of duty by the police. Pc Walton should have been arrested for assaulting Shakayla
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YOU IDIOT ALWAYS DEFENDING BAJAN DISHONEST POLICE AND NOW WAKING UP TO REALITY.
THIS IS TYPICAL BEHAVIOR AMONG MANY DIRTY POLICE IN BIM
The fact a case was dismissed because an officer failed to show must be a disciplanry matter unless he presented a sick certificate?
Commish, over to you.
Source: Nation
Ah wonder that the police force will do when they eventually no longer have a Crown to claim property ownership of them and the clothes they wear….now that will more than likely end up being pure entertainment.
You all got it yet?
You live in a democracy.
Because you don’t understand what that means doesn’t mean those who do and are trained in how it works will not do their jobs.
Wait till next month as the process of depriving a citizen of his liberty unfolds and then make your conclusions.
Recommended reading before you all make bigger fools of yourselves!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus
Remember the guy who spent 10 years on remand!!
NOBODY could make a bigger fool of himself than you do every day.
It is so bad I wonder if you suffered brain damage during the beating.
Wuh looka muh crosses! Under what law could Graveney think somebody could be prosecuted for recording what a public officer does in public????
So if it was a media camera person would he say the same thing???
WTH??????
DonnaSeptember 16, 2020 9:36 AM
NOBODY could make a bigger fool of himself than you do every day.
It is so bad I wonder if you suffered brain damage during the beating.
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How many times have you had the Chief Justice of Barbados apologise to you in the press as well as in the court of appeal?
31 But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
One of my mother’s favourites!!
@ John at 11:18 AM and 11:18 AM
Also a favourite quotation of OSA RIP. A very inspiring and enabling affirmation.
“How many times have you had the Chief Justice of Barbados apologise to you in the press as well as in the court of appeal?”
is that the well known corrupt former CJ or the do nothing, incompetent one who just resigned in disgrace?…an apology from either one means absolutely nothing…..
Didn’t need him at all. Got my problem resolved without him.
De madwoman system does wuk!
You did not name me the Bride of Dracula for nothing!
WURA-War-on-USeptember 16, 2020 12:45 PM
“How many times have you had the Chief Justice of Barbados apologise to you in the press as well as in the court of appeal?”
is that the well known corrupt former CJ or the do nothing, incompetent one who just resigned in disgrace?…an apology from either one means absolutely nothing…..
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True!!
… but it’s a fact Jack!!
A fact that proves what??????
It proves that your mother had a serious problem that took way too long to be resolved. Your mother died before it was resolved. And you had to “wait upon the Lord” for far longer than I did.
It proves that your sister did a very good job on social media.
It proves that Marston Gibson and Sandra Mason are not shameless monsters. Having met them both many years ago, and knowing much about them through family and friends I already knew that. Barbados is a very small place.
That is why you don’t find me ranting and raving and demonizing them on BU. They are flawed beings just like the rest of us who need a kick in the ass sometimes. Nothing evil about either of them.
And that is all it proves. It does not prove that you are not brain damaged. You are either that or YOU are evil.
Relax!!
I am totally relaxed. Lying would tense me up. Holding my tongue and not speaking the truth would tense me up.
You are either brain damaged or evil.