Plight of Abused Elders in Barbados

Submitted by Mama Leah
The link below is part of a conversation I captured on my mobile phone between myself and an Elder person trying to escape, albeit with no access to his own money or any money at all.  If this is not a cry for help, you tell me. Barbados authorities, more often than not, get these reports but interrogates the reporter rather than investigate the report. Only when it hits social media and becomes a scandal then everyone scrambles to show how committed they are to protecting the Elders in our midst.
So here goes:

Today I visited Worthing Police Station for assistance in helping this Elderly. Although I explained how sensitive and treacherous these matters are, The Officer asked for a phone number and called the home, setting the perpetrators on the alert and offensive. When we got to the premises, as I expected, the main protagonist was all riled up and refused to cooperate. Denied any merit to the report. She accosted me and accused me of having nefarious objectives.  So we left. I was simply carrying out what I thought to be my civic duties. I got splattered with shit, and this is only the first round.
The Officer is of the sickening opinion, (in a nutshell) that the perpetrators: the children and ex-wife, are his children and wife (family) therefore has rights to his assets. On a previous visit to Worthing Station the officer told me that “if it is his daughter, then she cannot be abusing him, she might see it as protecting him and further a daughter cannot be considered as stealing from a parent, she’s his child and its her money too and she will get it anyway when he dies”. Why then not wait until he dies?
The UN Convention 1991 holds a different view.
It is this kind of backward, primitive, bull shit that some people hold dear that discourages public-spirited persons from intervening on behalf of the Elderly or other forms of domestic violence.
So I went to the Welfare Department. After relaying my story, the Officer brilliantly told me that “since you began with the National Assistance Board and they have the background, I think you should go back to them”.  Mind you, she did not say it was not her department’s portfolio.  So i went to the National Assistance Board did the same blasted thing and again was told that “going in to protect or remove the elder/anyone” was not their mandate.
What the fuck is going on?
Whose mandate is it?
Three RH law enforcement agencies in one fucking day and none of them willing or able to do anything. What are we paying these people for?
They all say that it is difficult to intervene/process unless the victims themselves complain to them or they have ‘evidence’ especially since I am not a family member.
Who is it that has access to these persons, other than the very same family members, to carry out these vile and distasteful acts against them?  The Gardener in St Lucy?
What is evidence?
How does a sick or dependent person, held captive in their own home or a nursing home get access to outside agencies to make a complaint themself?  What poppycock is this?  Shouldn’t a responsible government have a Database of ‘Vulnerable/Dependent Elder Persons” and be checking up on them, like since 1991 or 1999?  I picked up a Bookmark from one of these agencies today. “International Year of Older Persons 1999. Let’s Support Our Older Persons. 1999, 1999,1999 – 20 RH years. Tell me I am not hallucinating. Perhaps I am missing something.
Somebody making a lot of RH sport on this matter.  No specific law on Elder-Abuse in Barbados after all this time? What are they waiting for, the cows to come home?
So where are the Community Nurses? What do they do? Who is it that they visit, and how do they do this that there are some persons left out of the loop and who being robbed black-blind or traumatized or humiliated or victimized?  All these persons who have worked and contributed to the development of this country suddenly have no carat.
Barbados, is this how we say thank you?

111 comments

  • Vincent Codrington

    Wow. What a tour de force! We certainly have lost our way. But let us face facts. That elderly gentleman sired that daughter. Did he play a part in developing her values? Most citizens of my generation were taught values by both parents. When we became caregivers to our elders we applied the values they taught us. They practiced what they preached and we in turn practised it.
    Having said all that,in statistical probability terms, this case is an outlier. There will always be uncaring children.

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  • @Vincent

    The parent is old, this should resonate with anyone with a conscience.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ David BU at 8 :47 AM

    We are not born with consciences. Consciences are cultured. We are trained to develop a sense of right and wrong. You may not notice it but we as a nation is beginning to lose our conscience. Very often in response to a question I get an answer along this line :”so and so is doing it, so it must be right and I am going to do it too “. More recently i got a response like this : ” Others ,more qualified than I ,said so and so” .
    In short ,if we do not set standards ,and apply them we will continue on the trajectory to decay of our value systems.

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  • Barbados is a failed society.

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  • Has anyone determined the mental state of the gentleman in question. Does the gentleman suffer from dementia or Alzheimer’s as these diseases present much like the author is reporting. These two afflictions can be very difficult to deal with on a personal level without adequate professional backup and facilities. The gentleman’s family maybe overwhelmed with the situation and do not know where to turn. Then again it could very well be a case of elder abuse like the author is saying, in any case it’s obvious that Barbarian system is not equipped to deal with the situation to determine the truth.

    Like Hal states Barbados continues to show it’s FAILED STATE status while local politicians and authorities continue to GRANDSTAND.

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  • I visited the link and in my opinion, the responses of the elder person do not fully support the claim made here.

    If I was a member of Worthing Police Station, Welfare Department or National Assistance Board, then on hearing the audio I might have acted as they did. Apart from “I]ll find a way”, which is hard to place in context., the responses of the gentleman does not ‘condemn” his caregivers.

    Correct me if I am wrong.

    The answers of the policeman seem to be based more on tradition/common convention than than on law.
    (I am not a lawyer)
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    I am very concerned about elder abuse. As a gentleman who is in the latter half of the seven stages of man, I have a great deal of concern about how the elderly are treated. I have made it clear to my son that what little that I have does not automatically become his and it is my plan to hold on to it as long as possible.

    This is a situation where all Barbadians including the elderly could be educated by holding a number of seminars at different schools.
    A presentation can be prepared on the rights of the elderly, people can be trained and a series of lectures delivered throughout the island. The presentation could also be videotape and copies place in all of the libraries an police stations.

    Each police station should have officers who are fully aware of the rights of the fragile element of society.

    We must abandon the toy train with all its bells and whistles and make certain that out policemen, Welfare Department and National Assistance Board can help and protect the the fragile member of the society.

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  • I see a few letters missing here and there.. usually a d. If you see any that are extra, they are meant as gift to you.
    Excuse the errors

    Enjoy the day.

    Have a Great Day Barbados

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  • Vincent,

    All over Barbados are people young and middle aged who love and care for their elderly parents and grandparents. They far outnumber the kind who don’t. In some of the case of abuse i know the parents ( including the mothers) were not the best to the children. In many cases there was neglect especially by the fathers who were too busy pursuing women. When I see an old man being abused I wonder what kind of man he was and how did he treat his children. When I see some old women being abused I wonder how many of them chose their men above their children. I know women who do that. With some people it is just the chickens coming home to roost. We do not know what went on many years ago behind closed doors. This however, cannot be a factor in our decision on how the old person is to be treated now

    Of course, there are ungrateful offspring around who need to be dealt with, some abusive and some neglectful and only interested in getting their hands on the old parent’s money.

    We neighbours need to be vigilant and go the extra mile like this woman has done and press for an investigation. And we do know that we need to have an investigation because some elderly persons have not changed their wicked and miserable ways while others are suffering from some type of dementia and accuse people of doing things that they are not doing.

    The problem in this case seems to be the authorities who need a kick in the backside. There may be no clear guidelines on how these things should be handled and by whom or else the workers are just lazy.

    If I were that lady I would go directly to Cynthia Forde. She is being paid to do more than look good and speak sweet nothings.

    PS. A few months ago my sixteen year old son dragged me into a cell phone store and made me purchase a cell phone because “he needs to reach me at all times to make sure that I am okay. Two weeks ago he noticed a for sale sign on a plot opposite ours. He hoped no-one would purchase it for a few years so that he could do so. His plan is to live close by so he can keep check on me. He plans to get me home help and set up cameras because he has to know what is happening to me at all times. I told him he has to live his life and go where it takes him. I’m sure he will when he gets a family. But one thing I know is that he will never leave me unprotected. He will make provisions for me and keep check.

    He was raised well. He was loved well. He cannot escape.

    The Lugubrious Hal Austin,

    These happen in all countries. Even where you live. I live here and I don’t feel like I am living in any failed state. Just one that often needs a hard kick in the backside and some persistence.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ Donna at 10 :42 AM

    Precisely. Love begets love.
    Secondly ,the incidence of dementia and alzheimers are increasing, probably the consequence of an aging population. Perhaps we need to get some more information before allocating blame.

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  • @VC
    @Donna
    Can we truly know another person?
    Do the lessons taught in youth remains with us forever?
    And if they do, do they always apply the lessons learnt?

    Thee are general questions and not meant to contradict in anyway.

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  • TheO,

    Re: Can we truly know another person? Mostly, yes. Most of us can’t hide who we are for extended periods. Signs are always there. Some people do not pay attention. Others live in denial.

    Re: Do the lessons taught in youth remains with us forever? Mostly. We may choose not to apply them or make mistakes but we do remember. Mostly though, characters are formed fairly early.

    And love does beget love. Mostly.

    PS. The word “mostly” was deliberately used.

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  • Somebody making a lot of RH sport on this matter. No specific law on Elder-Abuse in Barbados after all this time? What are they waiting for, the cows to come home?
    So where are the Community Nurses? What do they do? Who is it that they visit, and how do they do this that there are some persons left out of the loop and who being robbed black-blind or traumatized or humiliated or victimized? All these persons who have worked and contributed to the development of this country suddenly have no carat.
    Barbados, is this how we say thank you?
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    REALLY SUMS THE ISLAND UP.

    I DON’T CARE FOR DONALD TRUMP BUT HIS USE OF “SHITHOLE” REALLY DOES DESCRIBES THE 3rd WORLD ISLAND BARBADOS AS AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT.

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  • https://www.elderabuse.org.uk/breaking-news

    7 July 2019

    Report shows need for elder abuse law

    Major failings in how the criminal justice system treats older victims of crime makes the case for a specific elder abuse offence in law, according to the charity Action on Elder Abuse.

    A new joint report by HM Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire & Rescue Services (HMICFRS) and HM Crown Prosecution Service Inspectorate (HMCPSI) entitled ‘The poor relation. The police and CPS response to crimes against older people’, due for publication on Wednesday, 17th July, makes a series of recommendations for improving how the criminal justice system serves older people.

    The damning report states that older people are “often let down by the police and wider criminal justice system which does not always understand their needs and experiences”. The police, it says, have only a “superficial understanding” of the nature and extent of crimes against older people, which often results in a poorer service to older victims. Police forces and the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) are also said to “lack any joint cohesive and focused strategy to deal with older victims of crime”.

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  • http://www.eapon.ca/what-is-elder-abuse/

    How many Ontarians are facing elder abuse?
    Elder abuse is a serious and growing problem, although the magnitude and extent of the elder abuse cases occurring in Canada is not well known, due to limited data collected and unreported cases. North American studies indicate that between 2 and 10 per cent of older adults will experience some type of elder abuse or neglect each year.

    There are currently 2 million seniors aged 65 and over, or 14.6 per cent of the population who reside in Ontario. Based on studies that indicate two to ten percent of seniors are abused, there are between 40,000 and 200,000 seniors living in Ontario who have experienced or are experiencing elder abuse.

    Ontario is also facing a significant demographic shift, according to Ministry of Finance Census Data. The number of seniors over 65 is projected to more than double in Canada or in Ontario to almost 4.2 million, or 24.0 per cent, by 2036. Given the significant growth increase of seniors, it is imperative that we take action to prevent and assist seniors who are at risk and are experiencing abuse, otherwise between 84,000 and 420,000 seniors could be affected in the future!

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  • The lawyers, ministers, lowlife minorities all rob the elderly of their estates, land, bank accounts, it’s nothing new, they have all been doing it for decades and still are…..all Cynthia Forde does is give lipservice and talk shite, she does not lift a finger to end any of it, only run to the media to make believe she is actually working for taxpayer’s money…so of course in certain cases family members will believe they have some right to be abusive and neglectful of family members and tief from them too..

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  • Elder Abuse On the Rise in America
    April 4, 2019, at 4:00 p.m.
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    Elder Abuse On the Rise in America

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    By Steven Reinberg
    HealthDay Reporter

    (HEALTHDAY)

    THURSDAY, April 4, 2019 (HealthDay News) — As the American population ages, elder abuse rates are increasing, particularly among men, federal health officials reported Thursday.

    Between 2002 and 2016, the rate of assaults among men 60 and older jumped 75%, while it rose 35% among women between 2007 and 2016. Among older men, the homicide rate increased 7% between 2010 and 2016, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    “We are still examining the circumstances that appear to be associated with the increase in violence against this age demographic,” said lead researcher Joseph Logan, from the CDC’s National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.

    “We have identified that many of the assailants were known to the victims and in a position of trust,” Logan noted.

    Dr. Ronan Factora, chair of the Special Interest Group on Elder Abuse and Mistreatment at the American Geriatrics Society, thinks the problem is probably even worse than the report suggests.

    “These data underestimate the extent of elder abuse in America,” he said. “We probably underestimate the amount of physical violence, because this study only used records from emergency departments.”

    Many more cases of abuse were probably seen by private doctors or not reported at all, said Factora, who had no part in the study. “This is really a small fraction that represents a larger problem that has been growing,” he added.

    The biggest issue is that most elder abuse isn’t recognized, Factora said. That’s because there isn’t a standard way to screen for it or recognize it.

    Factora believes, however, that elder abuse is gaining more visibility, which may be part of why it’s seen as increasing.

    “As the years have gone by, elder abuse has become more highlighted and thus better detected,” he said. “But the increase is not just a demographic issue.”

    Factora said that much of the abuse among people who are physically or mentally impaired is perpetrated by caregivers who are stressed out by the demands of caring for a loved one.

    Still, “abuse can have lasting effects that aren’t reversible after a certain point,” he said.

    “People who need help with transportation, finances and medication put a lot of burden on caregivers,” Factora said. According to the CDC report, it’s family members who commit most of the violence.

    “A lot of this is because of the demands placed on them for care, which really puts a stress on them,” Factora said.

    Unfortunately, many seniors are in jeopardy because of their physical or mental condition, and can’t defend themselves, he said. Abuse is really related to dependency, Factora explained.

    Help in finding ways to cope with the burden of caring for someone is available. Perhaps if more people took advantage of programs for family caregivers, a lot of elder abuse could be stopped before it starts, he suggested.

    “The resources are there. The problem is connecting the caregivers who are burned out with the resources that can help them,” Factora said.

    The best way to deal with elder abuse is through awareness of all its forms. This study deals with physical abuse and murder, he pointed out, but abuse also includes neglect and financial exploitation.

    Often a person is the victim of several kinds of abuse. Someone who is physically abused can also be neglected and financially exploited.

    Factora believes that if you see or suspect someone is a victim of elder abuse, you should report it to adult protective services.

    “We need to find these cases, and once we find how big this epidemic is, that may be a push to identify the abuse we don’t see,” he said. “What we are seeing is the tip of the iceberg.”

    For the study, researchers used data from the U.S. National Electronic Injury Surveillance System — All Injury Program and National Vital Statistics System to look for trends in assaults and murders among men and women aged 60 and older.

    The report was published April 5 in the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

    More information

    For more on elder abuse, visit the U.S. National Institute on Aging.

    Copyright © 2019 HealthDay. All rights reserved.

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  • This is a situation where all Barbadians including can be educated by holding a number of seminars/talks at different schools.

    A presentation can be prepared on the rights of the elderly by those knowledgeable on elderly law. People can be trained and a series of lectures delivered throughout the island. The presentation can also be videotaped and copies place in all of the libraries, police stations and schools. Education of all is the key.

    Police stations should have officers who are fully aware of the rights of the fragile members of our society. Our policemen, Welfare Department, National Assistance Board and other organizations must actively help and protect the disadvantaged/young/ elderly members of society.

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  • As one who has looked after 3 elders, parents and auntie all of whom were over 80 at the same time, and two of whom had significant disabilities, I’ve listened carefully to the tape and I don’t hear any evidence of abuse. I would much prefer to hear fomr a social worker or a psychologist

    What I hear is a female voice prompting Dennis to say something which he does not want to say, asking if he is treated ok, if his family hits him etc., if he gets to go out? I hear a female voice asking “how are WE going to get out Dennis? “They are not going to let you?”

    How well does the female speaker know the elder?
    Why is she prompting him to say something he does not want to say?
    Where is the female voice planning to take Dennis?
    Does Dennis have the capacity to consent to whatever the female is proposing?
    Did Denis know that he was being taped?
    Did Denis consent to the broadcast of this tape?

    I would have been very resentful if a “stranger” had showed up with a microphone purporting to help my elder “get out” and voicing “concern”,asking if my elder gets hit. etc.

    But yes, social services should certainly take a look to be certain Dennis not being coerced by his family OR by the female speaker.

    Personal story: A few weeks after my father was widowed at 90+ a unemployed 30something woman who had been living in a polygamous relationship two houses away started showing up regularly, offering “friendship”, and asking him if she could move in. She wanted to “help” him. He did not require her help. She had NEVER once offered help during the many years my mother required help. I believe then and now that the female was more interested in helping herself. At the time by father had three children who lived nearby and who visited every single day for the 4+ years he lived as a widower. He had a housekeeper/cook who came in for 20 hours each week, he went to church regularly, and he had half a dozen grandchildren who visited regularly as well.

    We had to tell the woman “be off” and go back to her polygamous union, find a job, and leave our old man alone.

    She got the message.

    He lived happily ever after.

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  • My elderly well educated former Sunday school teacher, who in civilian life had held a management position for decades was taken for all he had, hundreds of thousands of dollars [he had inherited valuable beach land] by a beautiful young woman whom he met on the internet, and who persuaded him over a period of months or years to send her money for a “business” in which they would be partners. Subsequently she claimed that other of the business partners had robbed her. Then she disappeared. By the time she was finished with him he was destitute and suicidal. Sadly he honestly but erroneously believed that the beautiful young “lady” on the internet was in love with his 70+ self. She was not. Sadly he never ever got to meet her.

    In this voice note i smell the beginning of a “love scam”

    Color me cynical.

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  • https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/what-you-need-know-about-romance-scams
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    In 2019, people reported losing $201 million to romance scams. People reported losing more money to romance scams in the past two years than to any other fraud reported to the FTC.

    Romance scammers create fake profiles on dating sites and apps, or contact their targets through popular social media sites like Instagram, Facebook, or Google Hangouts. The scammers strike up a relationship with their targets to build their trust, sometimes talking or chatting several times a day. Then, they make up a story and ask for money.

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  • The lawyers, ministers, lowlife minorities all rob the elderly of their estates, land, bank accounts, it’s nothing new, they have all been doing it for decades and still are…..all Cynthia Forde does is give lipservice and talk shite, she does not lift a finger to end any of it, only run to the media to make believe she is actually working for taxpayer’s money…so of course in certain cases family members will believe they have some right to be abusive and neglectful of family members and tief from them too..

    BARBADOS IS REALLY A SHITHOLE.

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  • Elder abuse as pointed out is a challenge in all countries around the world.

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  • @Baje February 21, 2020 7:47 PM “BARBADOS IS REALLY A SHITHOLE.”

    Baje are you looking after your elders who still live in Barbados?

    And if not you, then who?

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  • https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47176539
    Women ‘victims in 63% of romance scams’

    Victims of romance scams – the majority of whom are women – lost an average of £11,145 each last year, according to new figures.

    The data, from police reporting centre Action Fraud, showed that £50m was lost in these scams in 2018 when fraudsters pretend to be romantically attached.

    Fraudsters trick victims into sending money or gather enough personal information to steal their identities.

    These scams of the heart are being highlighted ahead of Valentine’s Day.

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  • Elder abuse as pointed out is a challenge in all countries around the world.
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    DID THE AUTHOR OF THIS BLOG TOPIC NOT HIGHLIGHT AN ACTUAL LOCAL CASE TAKEN TO THE POLICE AND TWO OTHER BARBADOS GOVERNMENT AGENCIES WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT ALL OF ITS CITIZENS AND WAS NOT ABOUT SOME OUTSIDE COUNTRY?

    TAKE YOUR HEAD FROM UP YOUR ARSE.

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  • https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/14/us/happy-valentines-dont-fall-for-romance-scams-trnd/index.html
    An 80-year-old widower lost $200,000 in an online romance scam in Oregon

    The elaborate con job started with an unidentified person stealing a Florida’s woman identity, the Oregon Division of Financial Regulation said in a statement. The scammer then used the stolen identity to befriend the 80-year-old widower through an online dating service, and worked to steal his heart and his money.

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  • @Mama Leah “The Officer is of the sickening opinion, (in a nutshell) that the perpetrators: the children and ex-wife, are his children and wife (family) therefore has rights to his assets. On a previous visit to Worthing Station the officer told me that “if it is his daughter, then she cannot be abusing him, she might see it as protecting him.”

    The author writing under a pseudonym claims that the woman in the house is an ex-wife.

    How do we know that the woman in the house is an ex-wife? Because Mama Leah outside the house says so? What if the woman in the house is Dennis’ loving wife of 50 or more years?

    Why are we so quick the believe that the anonymous, dirty mouthed Mama Leah is a truthful person?

    Am I the only person to have noticed that she sweet talks Dennis, but in her writing to the lao she curses like a pirate.

    Honestly now, would any of you want your elderly husband or elderly father to go off with with his money with such a dirty mouthed person?

    Especially a person who seems to have an interest in Dennis’ funds “albeit with no access to his own money or any money at all.”

    Once Dennis’ money is gone, who takes care of him? Will dirty mouthed Mama Leah take care of him? Or will his care become the responsibility of the same “ex-wife” who may actually be his lawful wedded wife, his daughter?

    And I ask again, did Dennis consent to having his image and his words published? Is Dennis capable of consent? And if he is incapable of consent isn’t it abusive to publish his words and his photo?

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  • @ SILLY IDIOT.

    WHENEVER SOMEONE HIGHLIGHTS A PLIGHT ON BU YOU CONTINUE TO TRY TO DENIGRATE THE INDIVIDUAL.

    YOU DID IT WITH THE LADY SUFFERING IN COVERLY POOR CONSTRUCTION WHO WAS CATCHING HELL WITH TORMENT FROM THE POLICE AND MARK MALONEY WHO ALSO TOOK THE BOLD STEP OF HIGHLIGHTING HER PLIGHT SEVERAL TIMES ON BU.

    YOU DID THE SAME WITH NATALIE CRICHLOW WHOSE SUSPICIOUS DEATH WAS HIGHLIGHTED ON BU.

    YOU ARE A NASTY VILE DISHONEST OLD BITTER WOMAN.

    NOT EVERYONE LIVES IN THE BUBBLE IN YOUR HEAD.

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  • @ Baje

    Well said.

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  • Any negative comment about Barbados guess who puts in an appearance.

    #bajancondition #failedstate

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  • Policies and procedures and agreements to report and manage elder abuse cases in Barbados, called the “Draft Protocol for the Prevention, Reporting, Investigation and Management of Elder Abuse,” was completed in 2012.

    In June 2013, the “National Policy on Ageing in Barbados” was passed in Parliament. Section 7 of the policy deals specifically with elder abuse. Included in the recommendations are:

    …… Create a national protocol for the prevention, reporting, investigation and management of elder abuse;
    …… Undertake research into the causes, extent and consequences of elder abuse in Barbados to help in the formulation of policy;
    …… Enact a single code of law to address the issue of elder abuse;
    …… Provide services for victims of elder abuse, to include counselling, rehabilitation, alternative accommodation and support services;
    …… Establish mandatory counseling for perpetrators of elder abuse;
    …… Facilitate the creation of a dedicated telephone help line for victims of elder abuse.

    A committee to monitor the implementation of the plan of action in the “National Policy on Ageing” was established in July 2014.

    The above falls within the purview of the National Assistance Board.

    It’s not the mandate of NAB to remove an elderly person from their place of abode. However, given the above information, I’m wondering why NAB’s Welfare Officers did not investigate the case and why was the complainant referred to the Welfare Department?

    The legislation is there, but it seems the people tasked with dealing with these types of cases ‘don’t know wuh duh doing.’

    Recall a few years ago, police officers dealt with domestic abuse complaints, according to a contributor, “based more on tradition/common convention than than on law.” Now, police officers are trained to handle those cases.

    Similarly, officers should be trained to deal with elder abuse cases.

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  • This matter of Eldercare AND ABUSE is multifaceted.

    “…How many times you gine repeat that daddy?”

    “…Granny I do not have your purse you must have misplaced it AGAIN…”

    Caring for the elderly is fraught with problems which, for the faint of heart, can be frustrating AND OVERWHELMING even for loving family Donna and Mr. Vincent Codrington.

    Not everyone has the disposition that can overlook the challenges which come with that care!

    “I love you mum” but every morning I wake up you accuse me of stealing your purse CAN WEAR YOU DOWN AFTER YEARS!

    And few here know what it is like when “a nice ole lady” says that their daughter is a thief in a cool calm voice!

    Having said that 60% OF THE OFFICERS OF THE BARBADOS POLICE FORCE are Stoopid as RH!

    You risk your life sharing anything in confidence with them.

    Furthermore their reasoning skills are not much more advanced than the proverbial monkey handling gun, so commencing a discrete investigation IS NOT A REASONING SKILL of the Royal Baygon Police Force.

    It would be better to ask them which plastic bags are better to use when tying them over the heads of their victims during normal questioning

    Cynthia Forde (and her predecessor Pastor David Durant) are waste foops but, fortunately, all of these people, IF THEY LIVE LONG ENOUGH, gine get old and they will experience the reality of ageing first hand.

    Artaxerxes has provided us all with 8 year old legislation and provision THAT SHOWS THE LIP SERVICE BEING PLAYED BY ALL THESE AGENCIES AND OFFICIALS

    The fact is not only WHO WILL BELL THE CAT but, more importantly , AFTER WE BELL THE CAT, WHO GINE RH FEED IT!

    And that readers is the real issue here.

    When the requisite agencies go in and sort out the matter of people stealing the elderly party’s pension or falsifying the will, or the many real disturbing things they do, WHAT THEN?

    And de ole man answers and repeats what I said on the other blog with this same topic, UNLESS ONE CREATES A SYMBIOTIC CARE MECHANISM FOR THE ELDERLY which, notwithstanding the vagaries of old age, health problems like alzheimers and dementia, can assist in structured caregiving, WE GINE GOTS PROBLEMS!

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  • Your note early this morning reinforces the idea that we have bells and whistles in place (or we thought of installing hem).
    We need to move beyond having words on paper or just having warms bodies in position, but these placeholders do not complete their assigned jobs job.

    Hence my frequent ” bells and whistles toy train” reference.

    I have not used the word failed, but I used the word failing.

    I also believe that life in Barbados could be very sweet if institutions function properly, if the laws are applied evenly, if average Bajan including politicians fight corruption, if leaders sees their jobs as nation building and not just an opportunity to get rich quickly ….

    We need to think as a nation and not as a B or D.

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  • @Piece “The fact is not only WHO WILL BELL THE CAT but, more importantly , AFTER WE BELL THE CAT, WHO GINE RH FEED IT! And that readers is the real issue here.When the requisite agencies go in and sort out the matter of people stealing the elderly party’s pension or falsifying the will, or the many real disturbing things they do, WHAT THEN? And de ole man answers and repeats what I said on the other blog with this same topic, UNLESS ONE CREATES A SYMBIOTIC CARE MECHANISM FOR THE ELDERLY which, notwithstanding the vagaries of old age, health problems like alzheimers and dementia, can assist in structured caregiving, WE GINE GOTS PROBLEMS!”

    I rarely agree with Piece, but he has hit the nail on the head. Some of us at home and abroad seem to think that elders should be taken care of by the local MP, or that elders will be taken care of by more laws.

    But the truth is elders are taken care of [OR NOT} by the loving hands of their own daughters and sons, or by the loving hands of OTHER PEOPLE’S daughters and sons.

    There is NO OTHER WAY.

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  • We do not care about old people in Barbados. Visit the QEH and observe the old people left there by relatives.

    Visit the NIS and talk to the right people to learn about the pensions being redirected from those intended.

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  • @Baje February 21, 2020 10:17 PM “YOU ARE A NASTY VILE DISHONEST OLD BITTER WOMAN.NOT EVERYONE LIVES IN THE BUBBLE IN YOUR HEAD.”

    Ya can cuss me as much as ya feel like. Who cares? i repeat my question to you “Baje are you looking after your elders who still live in Barbados? And if not you, then who?”

    I hope that you are not being misled by the know-it-all Bajan abroad and expects that the local MP will do it for you?

    I guarantee you that the local MP of your elders cannot WILL NOT look after your elders for you.

    And looka, you owe me rent for the space you occupy in my head. I notify you now that I am a NASTY VILE DISHONEST OLD BITTER landlady.

    Pay or leave.

    Lolll!!!

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  • I am not taking the word of an anonymous stranger, or of Hal who is 4,000 miles away, or of Baje who is likely thousands of miles away also over the words and actions of professional police and social workers. I am also not taking the word of an anonymous stranger who seems not to know the old man very well, but who claims “concern” and who seems to have an undue interest in whether or not he can leave his home with money. From what I can see of the old man he seems healthy, well nourished, well dressed, and he firmly refuses the woman’s coached offer to say something (likely negatively aout the family who keeps him well nourished, well dresses etc?

    As for the Natalie Critchlow matter, the British government has a High Commission located at Collymore Rock, one of their major jobs is to ensure the welfare British subjects abroad. The High Commission has staff can refer questions about the deaths of British subjects to other British government agencies, including coroners and the police. I am sure that the High Commissioner, speaking for the British government can also ask questions of Barbadian officials and follow up to resolution.

    Why do you think that the British High Commission has not done this?

    Why do yo think that this issue has only been pursued by a few foreign based Bajan conspiracy theorists?

    Man some ‘o wunna does wake up every blessed day looking for something bad to say about Barbados and Bajans.

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  • Vincent Codrington

    @ David Bu at 1:21 PM

    Those are the exceptions that do not prove the rule. We expect the GoB agencies to deal with the exceptions. It is unfair to paint the other 98% with the same tar brush.
    There was a time within our living memory when each parish had an Alms House.. With economic prosperity since the mid 1950’s.they are reduced to three. In an aging population perhaps we need to increase these again. We have to be dynamic.

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  • I am not taking the word of an anonymous stranger, or of Hal who is 4,000 miles away…..??????????

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  • @Piece the Legend February 22, 2020 7:06 AM “And few here know what it is like when “a nice ole lady” says that their daughter is a thief in a cool calm voice!”

    Piece i am beginning to wonder if you are not a “nurse” like me. I have heard nice old people accuse their loving children over and over again. I has happened to me too. Those of us who have provided hands-on care sometimes for more than a decade at a time know what it is truly like.

    I remember an old labourer who was receiving the basic old age pension, at that time about $350 per month who would harangue his children if they were late in binging his pension cheque. He thought that they were trying to steal his money. In the meanwhile his loving children had got together and were paying the nursing home $1,350 for his care. He had moderately severe dementia, and was incapable of making the connection between his $350 per month and the $1,350 + diapers, bed pads, and whatever extra goodies he desired that his good loving children were paying for his upkeep.

    So if he was late in receiving the pension cheque directly in his hand it was because in his demented mind his children were “thieves”

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  • @Vincent

    Let us disagree. There is a trend. A disturbing trend.

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  • David,

    There is a disturbing trend for many reasons – an aging society, women in the workforce, declining respect for our elders and some breakdown in the family. It must be tackled but I don’t see it as occurring at alarming rates. Piece’s earlier suggestions are indeed worthy of serious consideration.

    But…….ladies and gentlemen, we are gathered here today to bash Barbadians and Barbados not to improve it.

    We know that despite all evidence to the contrary, Barbados will be presented as the only country in the world where politicians are corrupt, the rich exploit the poor, white men rule the roost, elders are abused without state intervention, education is failing, justice is for the poor etc etc etc.

    I’ll tell you what ails Barbados and it is not the Bajan condition. It is the human condition! Nobody says we should accept it but as long as humans are involved there will always be a fight for rights, resources, power and justice.

    That’s just the way it is.

    EVERYWHERE!

    Let us keep on fighting! (avoiding violence like the plague, of course)

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  • “Justice is for the poor” should have read that the justice system only captures the poor.

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  • Piece,

    When a person has been truly loved by a mother, though it is hard to hear the accusations of theft, they deal with it. They know that their real mother would not say that. My mother and I are not close but I would put up with it if I had to. From young adulthood she entrusted me with her affairs and I do the same with her. If now she accuses me of theft I would know it is not my mother speaking. As long as visitors found her well taken care of I wouldn’t give a rat’s botsy what anybody said behind my back. I would keep perfect records of her income and expenditure ready for any investigation.

    My son does not steal from me now. I entrust him with my ATM cards and send him to pay bills and make purchases. Let me go now and enlighten him on the symptoms of dementia and how to deal with them. It’s never too early.

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  • “Man some ‘o wunna does wake up every blessed day looking for something bad to say about Barbados and Bajans.”

    @ Simple Simon

    “Well said.”

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  • @ Donna

    These issues affecting the elderly in Barbados are not new. But we prefer to talk about policies written in “white, blue, green, yellow papers” and a national policy on ageing.

    Let me give you a few examples of what happens to the elderly in Barbados. There are some elderly people who are not visited by their children or relatives. A neighbour or concerned citizen may refer them to the NAB or Welfare Department. That individual may be in need of care and house repairs, or even a house. The NAB will provide home care and refer them to the UDC or RDC for a house or hose repairs.

    One or two things happen here. First, the only person that elderly lady or gentleman sees on a daily basis, is the home helper. Provisions are made to take them to the hospital, clinic, etc.

    When that person dies, Tudor’s Funeral Home, through the Welfare Department, have to bury them. All of a sudden a child, sister, brother, friend….. ‘comes out of the woodwork,” looking to claim the house or any money left. I know of cases where relatives of the deceased rented out the UDC or RDC houses as their own. And, they are prepared to fight when the agencies return for them.

    In other cases, as soon as UDC or RDC given them a house or repair the existing one, these wicked relatives abandon the elderly at the hospital to take over the homes.

    Secondly, an elderly male or female may be placed in a government institution. The children’s visits usually stops, when the pension stops. Some of these people die of broken hearts.

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  • With the explosion of the built up housing areas there is a view this would have acerbated the matter under discussion .

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  • isn’t it amazing that LOVE and WORK are both 4 letter words.

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  • Artax,

    I know of such cases but I know of far more cases where the parents are being cared for in a loving manner. I am part of a community. I see it daily, people going to visit their parents daily, taking them to the doctor, picking up their medication, taking them meals because they don’t want them lighting a stove. I see them moving back in with their parents because the parent refuses to move in with them. I see unmarried sons and daughters moving back in with their parents. I see people covering for people at work early in the morning because they know that “de man does got to bathe he muddah an’ he faddah an’ mek breakfast an’ lunch fuh dem befo’ he come work”. And I see some people faltering under the weight but struggling on because “wuh dah is my mudda”.

    Sometimes what happens is that the child who has contributed little to the upkeep and care of the parents wants to benefit from any property left and that can cause confusion.

    Of course it is nothing new but I think the incidences of elder abuse may be rising. We must tackle it.

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  • “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you” (Exodus 20:12).

    HONOUR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER. is still relevant

    It is a Biblical Command We Never Outgrow: “Honor Your Father and Mother”

    GOD STILL HONOURS THOSE WHO HONOUR THEIR PARENTS

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  • The damning thing is that this case was trending since 2018 and after speaking with all of the above agencies and learning that they were all IMPOTENT, I wrote to the Prime Minister and asked her to make this a priority of legislations to bring to the table.
    2018, ya’ll.
    I’ve seen/heard other legislations brought or revised including a recent 2% for foreign purchases.
    I was aghast to revisit this matter in 2020 and have the Police behave as ignorant (more unperturbed) as before and the other agencies.

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  • @the person asking and making the claim that children are who we raise them to be.

    That is an academic position. I know this man personally for 20 years. He doesn’t deserve this. He may have made some mistakes along the way but he raised and cared for those children as a single parent, the best way he knew how to. The devil is in the details. The most disgusting part of it all is that they are living in his house, living off of his Pension and other sources of income. The daughter does not keep a job and seems to have decided to not be productive but to be a parasite being influenced and controlled by the protagonist.
    My very own mother (in another country) is experiencing forms of abuse from one of her children and, of course, I had to get in and get involved. Did she raise us differently? Of course not. Some people are successful and some are not. Most times its the unsuccessful ones that feel they weren’t given enough and thus feel someone owes them something or everything or that they have a right to what the elder has. (the local Police thinks that’s OK). Sometimes it is is just greed or consciousness. Sometimes it’s bad planning and management of time and resources. Some live life saying they are young only once then suddenly middle age is upon them
    Elder Abuse is going to be a phenomenon and the protection of a new industry because now is the first time in modern history that we will be having so many and wealthy elderly (Babyboomers) verses a generation of ‘losers’; youths falling out of the system and others losing jobs and just the sad state of economies around the world.

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  • @ the person who said the matter should be reported to Cynthia Ford.

    I did.
    I was and still am royally pissed that the Police opened me to the vileness and hold such a backward view in 2020 on this topic.
    That I was doing what, in my opinion, those agencies should have been doing so I called up there and dumped it in their lap.
    I am waiting to see the outcome.

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  • @ Donna

    Have you ever visited the Geriatric Hospital and see the number of occupants there?
    I say occupants because many are not sick. They are just old and have bee dumped there; no backward glance, for the most part. All get a Pension of some sort but few of them benefit from their pension in there. Who is collecting the Pension and who is benefitting from it, really?

    Elder Abuse or neglect might not be the majority but 1 is too many.
    The last statistic I read out of Ontario

    …..”The Policy and Procedure Manual of the Toronto Police Service (TPS) includes a specific procedure for criminal investigations involving the ‘Abuse of Elderly or Vulnerable Persons’ which outlines the best practices of the TPS for handling complaints of abuse of elderly or vulnerable persons”.
    Elder Abuse is like Human trafficking. The Abuser has a grip on the abused. They use fear and other tactics to keep that person feeling that they need them (the abuser). Sometimes it is love. Sometimes it is shame. The shame of outsiders knowing what they (the abused) are experiencing. Abuse whether elder or domestic violence or trafficking is a very sensitive issue/situation. Handle it wrong (like the police did) and you put the abused at greater risk or cause them to recoil.

    We are all going to get old, those who survive we have no guarantee of how our children will behave then.

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  • Snap! I forgot to include the stats; not Canada America
    Psychologytoday.com
    ….” while it is hard to estimate how many persons are abused each year…..one study estimated that only 16% of cases are reported. Senate Special Commission on Aging estimates 5 million victims per year. 4.6% – emotional abuse, 1.6% physical, .6% sexual (just imagine how sickening), 5.1% potential neglect and 5.2% financial.
    The perpetrators were a family member in NINETY PERCENT (90%) of cases.
    Two-thirds were adult children or spouses.

    i didn’t compile the stats; they did.
    That’s the reality. They are efficient and equipped over and away. We are catching up. Figure what the percentages are here then place it at a ‘per capita’ ratio and i am sure it can shoot a rocket to the moon.

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  • cherfleur,

    I have a cousin who cared for both of her parents. Her father died and then she spent years after that waking up in the night to turn her mother to prevent bed sores. After many years her health started to decline and the doctor told her that was her or her mother. She cried when she placed her mother at the geriatric hospital but she had been unable to work at her trade whilst looking after her parents and her finances had suffered. She had also been looking in on the godmother who had actually raised her. That mother was visited daily by one or the other of her children but soon had bedsores and soon died at the age of ninety-five. I had to convince her that it was not her fault. The godmother also died in her nineties only hours after she had bathed her and fed her a meal.

    So… there are many people in the geriatric hospital who are not visited and there are others who are. And there are more who are actually being cared for in their homes. We do not live in a perfect world and we should not expect that we will. We must look out for each other and address this growing problem. We must also press the authorities to up their game.

    And you will notice that I said that children MOSTLY turn out as they are raised. There are exceptions. Your point is taken about the rotten one in the bunch but the others can deal with that one.

    PS. I have not visited the Geriatric Hospital but I have visited the one in my parish with the youth group I supervised. I also spearheaded an initiative to form a relationship between that institution and my workplace that continued after I left. I also sat on the League of Friends committee of that same hospital for years. Maybe it’s time I returned. I only left when my son was born. i have plenty of time now but I have got a little lazy, I think.

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  • Artax,

    Re: Secondly, an elderly male or female may be placed in a government institution. The children’s visits usually stops, when the pension stops. Some of these people die of broken hearts.

    I had a workmate whose father died of a broken heart. But his heart was broken when he realized that the daughter whom he had spent little time with had to clean up the stool he had left on the floor. This father, my friend said, had not been cruel to her. He had not left her hungry but he had spent most of his time and resources on women rather than on her. When he saw what she had to do for him his heart broke but none of the women she sent to take of him stayed. He was still getting fresh with them even though bedridden. She had no choice but to place him in the geriatric hospital. She visited often and took him toiletries etc. but he did not last long. He did leave her a house spot and a wooden house that needed repairs.

    I still say that more are being cared for than aren’t. Those that aren’t we must address urgently.

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  • @ Donna
    I’d like to join you for League of Friends.
    Donna, I use statistics aka numbers. They do not lie. they are like pictures/photos. They tell a thousand words.
    You are supposing that the majority take care of their elders. We don’t know that. Many affluent elders are paying for the care they are receiving at home or in care institutions, not their children The poor ones suffer twice over.

    Are you saying there is another hospital in your parish that caters to the elderly? That would be good to know because it appears that all who need this care but cannot afford it at home or at a nursing home point to the Geriatric Hospital (St Michael).

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  • I can’t get over that daft operation.
    It was the dumbest of dumb that I have ever encountered.
    Picture this;(Golden Girls) A thief breaks into a shop. Police gets the report and turns up and says to the culprit. “We got a report that you are or have broken into the shop next door”. Does he really expect the thief to say yes?

    Did the Officer really expect the abuser to say, “yes I have been abusing him because it is what you do to them at this age? Or yes, but that is how we show love around here?

    What did he really expect to accomplish from his visit, being that he went with no warrant or Guiding Policy for such a matter?

    Saying he needed the number to call to ascertain that someone was home before going was one thing. Using it to call and say my name and that I was at the station and made a report (of any sort) was totally out of order. So
    Picture this: man up a tree stealing coconuts. Police get the report and call man on mobile and say: “we got a report from so and so that you are stealing coconuts. We are just checking to ascertain that you are there before we come out” What does the Police really expect to accomplish when they arrive?

    Mind you, if this was Deacon’s or Pine the Police would have employed a totally different persona and attitude.
    Crime has so many different faces. It even has race and class.

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  • @ Cherfleur

    You asked and I quote

    “…Did the Officer really expect the abuser to say, “yes I have been abusing him because it is what you do to them at this age?

    Or yes, but that is how we show love around here?…”

    De ole man mouf IS NOT VERY NICE so i does got to restrain meself!

    I accept that their are loving kids and that there are scoundrels AND THAT THERE ARE LOVING KIDS WHO DON’T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR ELDERS and that the end result is close to that dealt out by scoundrels.

    But there is an aspect to this matter that you brought up.

    The ingrunt police, the ineffective NAB, its wastage of a minister AND THE RESPONSE OF THE SO CALLED PRIME MINISTER!

    Some months ago the Public Relations Officer of the Prime Minister, the man accused of Rape, the former Editor at the Nation, Roy Morris was all over the social media talking bout how de Prime Minister Mottley went to see he friend and he, the friend dead!

    No, she did not kill de friend, he died a little time after she saw him.

    While it can be successfully argued that de Prime Minister CANNOT VISIT EVERYONE IN THE HOSPITAL what can be said is that she made you a promise.

    But a promise is a comfort to a fool, so …

    Why does Mugabe do that Cherfleur? Promise poor people to help dem ass and then throw den under the bus?

    BECAUSE YOU AND THE REST OF THE SHEEPLE THAT MEK UP 70% OF THE POPULATION ent nobody!!

    You is just a vote, an amnesiac voter who, EVEN THOUGH MUGABE MOTTLEY does treat you and nuff more the same callous way, YOU GOING FORGET ALL OF THAT and vote she back in in 2021, right after the unsuccessful Gathering 2020!

    You see how she mek she fadder a knight? You ent nobody!

    Bajans DO NOT HOLD these politicians responsible SO SIT DOWN, SHUT UP & SUFFER IN SILENCE!

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  • @ Donna

    I write under correction because I don’t know if the policy has changed, but, an elderly person ceases to receive pension, when they are placed in full-time care of a government institution.

    I know of a case involving an elderly lady who took care of her step-father until he died. She then had to bury her grand mother and grand father, because her only brother and mother said they did not have any money to assist with the burial. She lived in her mother’s home for over 50 years, because her mother begged her not to leave. Soon after she retired, her mother’s leg was amputated and she took care of her mother until she died. Her 73 year old brother was too busy or his back was hurting to visit or do anything for his mother. He did not want to assist with the funeral arrangements, claiming he was a pensioner and did not have any money, but wanted the NIS death benefit.

    About 2 weeks after the funeral he showed up and told his sister she has to leave the house, because it is his. He kept harassing her until he finally got a lawyer to write her a letter stating he was the land-lord and giving her 1 month to move out because he wanted to repair the house.

    After some time passed, he got another lawyer. A female Marshall showed up a Tuesday morning, pushed a blue paper in her face and told her she has 7 days to move, but she’s giving her 3 days. On the Friday morning two very aggressive female marshalls returned with a truck preparing to move out the lady’s furniture. An intervention by the MP for the area, caused them to give her until Monday. One female marshall returned the Monday, walked through the house and told the lady if she does not get out by 12 noon, she would be returning with the police. It was only after she moved, the lawyer said he gave the marshalls a letter on the Friday, instructing them the lady had until Wednesday the next week to move.

    Having resided at that residence for over 50 years, she would have obviously accumulated furniture, clothes and other personal property. Had not for the intervention of the MP and the lawyer, the marshalls were prepared to dump her property on Friday, KNOWING she had until the following Wednesday to move.

    How can someone, at 76 years old, start over? How can a judge/magistrate sign an order for marshalls to put a 76 year old woman, who did not have anywhere to go, on the streets and dump her property? Is it right for marshalls to behave aggressively towards the elderly? How can the state treat the elderly in this manner? You won’t believe these people also have mothers. Why couldn’t the lady’s age be taken into consideration?

    But, most importantly, how can a brother treat his one and only sister that way?

    It’s approaching one year since the lady was evicted, her brother is living comfortably in his home with his wife, the house remains unoccupied, with bush growing all around it, while she remains homeless.

    Up to this day, the lady has not seen a will or any other document to verify her mother actually left the house for her brother. She was told by the brother’s lawyers they were not obligated to show her anything. She doesn’t know if it’s a fraudulent document……. she doesn’t know anything. But, his first lawyer told her the house belonged to him (brother), but doesn’t see any reason why he can’t let her remain in it.

    I believe there’s a God, but when I come across situations such these, I question His existence. Ironically, this lady is a strong believer in God and goes to church. How can a loving God, having seen the good this lady has done, allowed her to be treated in this manner?

    Then again, who said life is fair.

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  • The problem of elder abuse is serious and although there is a political component to consider, it is a much bigger problem based on the observation of this blogmaster.

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  • @Artax

    Have you been able to research the scam artist highlighted in today’s Sunday Sun who goes by the name Haldan “Hal”Austin?

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  • 1 Corinthians 10:13
    “There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.”

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  • @ David February 23, 2020 3:55 AM
    “The problem of elder abuse is serious and although there is a political component to consider, it is a much bigger problem based on the observation of this blogmaster.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    What, then, would be your view on any proposed legislation on euthanasia (assisted- suicide)?

    Since more and more enlightened jurisdictions- faced with the same graying problem and the absence of ‘voluntary’ family and home-based facilities for the care of sick and vulnerable elderly- are moving in this direction, don’t you think so-called educated (and fast becoming secular) Barbados ought to make this a pressing point for discussion and implementation?

    If a so-called Christian nation cannot demonstrate its commitment to this social challenge why not give those who don’t want to part of the hypocrisy to say ‘goodbye’ without placing such a ‘costly and heavy’ burden on those who are not doing the job of care out of a genuine humanitarian cause and commitment?

    Old age plagued with sickness and invalidity is an outlier in the expectations of Mother Nature.
    But with the on-march of medical technologies and artificial medicines the laws of Mother Nature are being tricked (for the time being until She produces a Malthusian whiz kid to find an antidote by picking an overabundance of the young fruits).

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  • @Miller

    Have no problem with it. We have elders with active brains living in a shell of a body. If they want to jump the mortal coil, do be it.

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  • @Piece the Legend February 23, 2020 2:31 AM “The ingrunt police, the ineffective NAB, its wastage of a minister AND THE RESPONSE OF THE SO CALLED PRIME MINISTER!”

    And you base this assessment on what? The unverified statements on a person who calls themselves variously Mama Leah and Cherfleur?

    It is a pity that so many people, especially MEN, even former policemen do not recognize when they are being played by manipulative, deceitful women.

    So far ZERO evidence has been presented that the man is being abused.

    What if the man’s loving family, especially his wife and daughter recognizes that he is being played by a manipulative, deceitful woman and are doing their best to protect him from her?

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  • @ David BU

    Surely you jest.

    I just read the story in today’s Sunday Sun. Perhaps you should compare the photo of Austin in the paper, with the photo of the Austin who authored the “Notes” on BU, to verify the identity.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    @ GP

    Life is an enigma. I remember as a boy hearing programme on Rediffusion called “A Minute with Ken Nedd,” during which a man who introduced himself as Dr. Ken Nedd, told listeners to “accentuate the positive” and other things to motivate them.

    Then there are the Bible ‘thumpers,’ who, similarly, to you would quote all types of Bible verses, to perhaps motivate the dismayed. ‘Men of God,’ like T.D Jakes, Creflo Dollar; Benny Hinn and even some uh de ones ’bout here.

    Or, we listen to songs, such as the one written in 1904, by Civilla D. Martin, named “God will take care of you.”

    Be not dismayed whate’er betide,
    God will take care of you;
    Beneath His wings of love abide,
    God will take care of you.

    What I realized was, all these motivational speakers, so called men of God and gospel artiste, as Piece would say, ‘RICH is shiite’ or are LIVING COMFORTABLY.

    Dr. GP, how can reading 1 Corinthians 10:13, change the plight of a 76 year old woman who has lost everything, while her brother, who perhaps has never even read the Bible, is living in his home, comfortably with his wife?

    The pastor’s roof is in need of repairs and he tells the congregation ‘the Lord says to give generously so my roof can be repaired.” Sister Mary’s house is in need of repairs and he quotes 1 Corinthians 10:13 and tells her, “Pray, the Lord will provide.”

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  • @Artax

    The blogmaster is suggesting no such direct association.

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  • @cherfleur February 22, 2020 11:43 PM “Have you ever visited the Geriatric Hospital and see the number of occupants there? I say occupants because many are not sick. They are just old and have bee dumped there; no backward glance, for the most part. All get a Pension of some sort but few of them benefit from their pension in there. Who is collecting the Pension and who is benefitting from it, really?”

    Cherfleur is not a Bajan, and even after many decades in Barbados may still not understand how Bajan pension systems work, Once a person is permanently admitted to the any government geriatric institution their non-contributory pension is directed to that institution to assist in their care. Since contributory pensions are deferred earnings they are treated differently, so that pension continues to go the person’s bank account or is sent by cheque to their home. That admitted elder may have an elderly dependent wife at home, a woman who by the couple’s MUTUAL CONSENT had spent most of her life being a wife and mother, raising their children, caring for the family, including caring for her elderly relatives as well perhaps as caring for her husband’s elderly relatives. She have not yet have a non-contributory pension of her own, or she may have only the small non-contributory pension so if her husband’s contributory pension is removed from her we may have many elderly women left virtually destitute.

    Perhaps a portion of the admitted elder’s contributory pension should be directed to the geriatric hospital and the other portion directed to the spouse at home? There is room for sensible discussion.

    But perhaps some of us would prefer to see our elderly grandmothers, mothers, sisters, aunts, and wives left destitute in their old age.

    or perhaps we think that it would impact only OTHER PEOPLE’S elderly grandmothers, mothers, sisters, aunts, and wives and we don’t care.

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  • @Simple Simon

    What about private pension?

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  • Looka here we know it’s not our “Hal” because it’s Canada and he would not be associated with a back water Country like Canada.

    However he should take out one of those notices that turn up in the Nation that he is not associated with the alleged scammer “Hal Austin”

    We don’t want his reputation to be sullied do we?

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  • @David February 23, 2020 4:43 AM “Have you been able to research the scam artist highlighted in today’s Sunday Sun who goes by the name Haldan “Hal”Austin?”

    perhaps the alleged “scam artist” is also scamming our Hal’s name?

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  • A friend of mine who is in his mid 50s and has fallen on hard times, went to the parliamentary representative for St. Michael North-West, Neil Rowe, who, ironically, is also the junior Minister in the Ministry of People Empowerment and Elder Affairs, to ask about a job.

    Rowe asked him how old he was and upon hearing his age, he told him, “De gov’munt en hiring old people.” In fact, I was reliably informed that Rowe has replaced his branch secretary and all the elderly people who assisted him in being elected, with young people, because he allegedly said, he don’t want old people ’round him.

    How can the prime minister of Barbados, who is approaching her mid 50s and the substantive minister of People Empowerment and Elder Affairs, Cynthia Forde, who is beyond 50 years old, knowing his disdain for the elderly, allow Neil Rowe to continue functioning in a ministry that includes the words “Elder Affairs?”

    It seems that only elderly people, who are associated with political parties, have worth in Barbados and are to survive.

    ….. Dr Clyde Mascoll, who is about 60, was appointed as Chief Economic Counsellor in the Ministry of Finance, Economic Affairs and Investment.
    ….. Dame Antoinette “Billie” Miller, was appointed Ambassador at Large and Plenipotentiary.
    ….. Sir Richard “Johnny” Cheltenham is President of the Senate.
    ….. Rudolph “Cappy” Greenidge is the deputy President of the Senate.
    ….. Jessica Odle-Baril is Mottley’s Personal Aide.
    ….. Pat Parris, is Director of Public Affairs in the Office of the Prime Minister.

    OLD PEOPLE, as Neil Rowe calls them, some of whom were called out from retirement, were given fancy TITLES, which now ENTITLES them to “FREE MONEY,” …………

    ………. while ordinary people in their 50s, the same people Neil Rowe and the other politicians would be APPROACHING in 2023, BEGGING them to VOTE for the BLP, have to ‘SUCK SALT.’

    What the hell is “Ambassador at Large and Plenipotentiary?” A way of giving “Billie” FREE MONEY?

    And, while all this is going on, elder abuse is on the increase, while the agencies charged with dealing with these issues, remain ineffective.

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  • @David February 23, 2020 9:03 AM David. I am old, but as of this moment I am still good. I worked for over 40 years. Raised children. With my wonderful sisters looked after multiple elderly relatives. I have my NIS pension, but also a li’l private pension. This private pension is not a gift. For many decades my employer withheld a portion of my salary in order to fund this private pension. Therefore the money is mine to look after my needs now that i am unemployable. When I become unable to care for myself, and if I am admitted to a public institution I don’t think that it would be unreasonable for the government to insist that portions of my income from whatever source should be directed to the public institution to fund my care. However if my spouse’s pension was inadequate I would not want him to become destitute, so some portion should go to him to ensure that he is able to live as usual, or almost as usual.

    I love my children very, very, much, but they are healthy young, well educated adults so “no” I am no longer responsible for them. My pensions should be used firstly to fund my needs and secondly to fund the needs of an elderly spouse.

    Of course things would be different David, if my spouse was a handsome young fella of 35 [nothing for him]. But alas…

    Maybe the fellas like Artax, John A?, Northern etc, that is those fellas who are good with the numbers could find out how much elder care in Barbados actually costs and propose some formula as to how much families should contribute to the care of their elders. Truthfully I do not know the numbers. Should it be $1,000 BDS per month, $2,000, $3,000? more? I don’t know.

    But we know that caring for vulnerable human beings, that is, the very young, the very old, the disabled is NEITHER FREE NOR CHEAP.

    Somehow or the other we have to figure out a way for the care giving to be PAID FOR.

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  • @Artax

    Arrogance always creep in. Mottley will have to guard against it by firing some people when necessary.

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  • “@Artax

    Have you been able to research the scam artist highlighted in today’s Sunday Sun who goes by the name Haldan “Hal”Austin?”

    Saying ‘nothing’ and leaving it to the reader’s imagination. Excellent.

    Waiting tro see if it is a ‘wide’ and left alone or if the batsman will play the ball.

    There is nothing like a good joke/laugh to start the day.

    Have a great day Barbados.
    HAGD

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  • Artax I know a case very similar to yours. A friend gave up her job to care for her elderly mother who had dementia. For 5 years she had no income except her mother’s pension and whatever her children were able to offer. The mother died, and within 30 days her brother ordered her out of the house. Fortunately she was able to return to her own home, so she is not homeless. Yup. Mummy had left the house to the son whom she rarely saw during the last five years of her life. Mummy had always favored her boy children, but in her declining years it was the only daughter who gave up her job to care for mummy. The thing is she knew even before she gave up her jb that mummy had left the house to her brother. She knew mummy very well.

    But such is the sacrificial love of a good number of daughters and granddaughters.

    And the question is “how does a woman over the age of 60 find a new job when when she has been unable to work for the past five years, but who is still many years away from receiving a pension herself?

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  • Elder shot.

    “An elderly was shot in the left shoulder at his home about 9:25 p.m. last night.

    was at home when his residence was invaded by three men brandishing firearms.”

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  • @Silly woman
    ““De gov’munt en hiring old people.”

    Dont know how it works there. In the US, this man would be silently thanking the minister and rushing to the nearest lawyer.
    Sounds like age discrimination.

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  • RE Have you been able to research the scam artist highlighted in today’s Sunday Sun who goes by the name Haldan “Hal”Austin?”

    I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SEE THIS ARTICLE BUT I INTERACTED WITH A SCHEMER CALLED HAL AUSTIN FROM ST PETER IN 1996 WHO I HAD TO EVICT FROM ONE OF MY APARTMENTS FOR FAILURE TO PAY RENT

    PROBABLY THE SAME PERSON

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  • Here is what you do when your elder does a soft and messy number two on the floor when you have already done breakfast and are already dressed in your nice work clothes.

    You change out of your nice work clothes. Put on a duster. You bathe and dress the elder. You clean up the sh!t being careful not to get even a smidgen on your person. You wash up yourself. You call the boss and report “yes” you will be late again because of a “family emergency”. Even though you know that the boss is pissed because you are :”late” again. You spare the boss the gory details. You hope to be able to hold your pick until you are at least pensionable age yourself. You work an hour late that evening trying to make up for lost office time. You get home late and prepare supper for your elder and yourself and perhaps for other family as well. Your elder vocally expresses displeasure because supper is “late” again.

    You do this again and again and again, and again for up to a decade.

    Wunna tink it easy?

    Wunna tink it free?

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  • Artax and Simple Simon,

    I know cases where that happened as well. Quite often the responsible child is not the favourite. The responsible child is expected to do the work while the irresponsible favourite reaps the sweets. Personally i would feel no obligation to sacrifice my life if I know what is what. I would still help out but the favourite who will benefit would have to do the sacrificing. It would be different if I am able to take care of myself while the favourite is not but I would not leave out providing for my old age to care for somebody who is not concerned about how I will survive after they are gone. Thing is though a will can be changed at any time and so you never really know where you stand. And so I would not give up working unless I could comfortably do so. I would not be dependent on any inheritance that can easily be taken away at the last minute.

    It is a conundrum, because giving up one’s property through a deed of gift requires trust on a parent’s part also. What if that child dies first and the grandchild who then inherits doesn’t care?

    .

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  • @ Silly Woman February 23, 2020 8:34 AM
    “And you base this assessment on what? The unverified statements on a person who calls themselves variously Mama Leah and Cherfleur?
    It is a pity that so many people, especially MEN, even former policemen do not recognize when they are being played by manipulative, deceitful women.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Eureka!!!
    The ‘Silly Wo(e) to man’ has finally seen the light that the perpetrators of Evil have no gender (or colour or class or creed).

    After all, the name ‘Eve’ was not assigned to human females by Yahweh just out of the clear blue innocent sky!

    Even the multi-talented omniscient Simple Simon(e) should be so objectively concerned that ‘he-she’ could be tempted to do a dig to see if both the name ‘Eve’ and the sin called ‘Evil’ have a similar etymological origin.

    Both ‘She-He’ are too long in the tooth not to know that ‘human males’ use physical aggression to perpetrate violence whereas females use their ‘pretend’ emotional weakness to get away with psychological ‘blue’ murder.

    Now what does she/he propose to do to nip this female evil in the bud?

    FGM to reduce the desire for penetration to out that burning fire inside?

    Or the chemical castration of the ovaries in order to addle the eggs in pubescent females to stymie the eve(ill) in them as ‘she the Silly faux feminist’ proposed with respect to young boys while leaving the likes of poor Donna down a cul-de-sac of genetic continuity?

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  • Does it matter if the submission was fabricated IF we can identify with similar occurrences?

    Not suggesting that it is a fabrication.

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  • @ GP

    What is the scam? There are two other Hal Austins in Barbados, one associated with St Lawrence Gap.

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  • Several topics are being discussed under this thread,
    elder abuse,
    the rights of the elderly,
    possible discrimination because of age,
    a possible search for a ‘sugar elder’ disguised as help
    transfer of property/money to younger generations
    Responses of government officials to cries for help
    .
    .How do we address these concerns in a thorough fashion. We can discuss, but it is clear that the state needs to be actively involved.

    @Hal
    I thought the original comment was a good joke. Don’t make it into more than what it was.

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  • What is the joke? I am not in the loop.

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  • @ Sargeant

    Thanks for your suggestion, but I do not want to pass my money on to the Trinidadians at the Nation. I have been called a financial adviser, landlord, knowledgeable and experience, polymath, should curl up and die, and lots mot. Being called a scammer adds to the mix.

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  • @Miller etc. “do a dig to see if both the name ‘Eve’ and the sin called ‘Evil’ have a similar etymological origin.”

    Sorry, but I do not have a doctoral degree in linguistics.

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  • Enjoy the day, my friend.

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  • @ Artax February 23, 2020 9:28 AM “he don’t want old people ’round him.”

    How ’bout Cappy den?
    How ’bout Johnny?
    How ’bout wuk fah wuk?
    How ’bout Jerome?
    How ’bout Eddie den?
    How ’bout Trev?
    How ’bout George? Ah too love short men.
    How ’bout Cyntie?
    How ’bout Joe?
    How ’bout Arthur? Love rasta men real bad too
    How ’bout auntie?

    If a Bajan is over 50, but under 67 they still deserve to have work. They still need income to take to the shop.

    So please no negative talk ’bout old.

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  • I have been called a financial adviser, landlord, knowledgeable and experience, polymath, should curl up and die, and lots mot. Being called a scammer adds to the mix. {Quote}

    How about that? You always want to make yourself out to be the victim and make a big issue of it.

    Those names are candy when compared with you calling people silly, ignorant, brain dead, appallingly ignorant or stupid, semi-literate buffoons, idiot and irritating.

    Grow up, silly man.

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  • Re: “Dashed dreams: Bajans feel ‘scammed’ after Canada jobs fall through” a story on the front page of today’s Sunday Sun. The thing is no immigration or job is needed in order to immigrate to Canada. The Canadian government has a pretty decent website, the link is below, which explains step by tedious step how to immigrate to Canada. It takes time to read, digest and follow the information, but anbody who has completed secondary school should be able to follow the instructions:
    https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada.html
    Immigrate to Canada
    How you can immigrate to Canada, how to protect yourself from fraud and what to expect after you arrive in Canada.

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  • “Silly Woman February 23, 2020 9:28 AM # So please no negative talk ’bout old.”

    @ Simple Simon

    You should probably think of passing your advice on to Neil Rowe.

    However, the reality in Barbados is, our society is not very accommodating to the elderly. There are seats in TB buses that are specifically meant for the elderly, disabled, pregnant women or women with babies. Young people sit in these seats and refuse to make way when these categories of people board the bus.

    On one occasion I was on a bus and witnessed people refusing to may way for a pregnant woman. When bus driver discovered she was standing, he threatened not to move the bus until someone gave her a seat. On another occasion, people refused to give a young girl holding a baby a seat, while telling her she should wait for a bus that’s not full.

    If you visit any establishment that has parking space specifically for the disabled, just wait and you’ll see ‘able-bodied’ parking in those spaces. If someone tells them ‘Can’t you see that parking space is for the disabled?” They respond by ‘washing that person in curse,’ or say they’re disabled too.

    When a man or woman reaches age 45 years, it’s impossible for them to get a job. And, even more difficult when they’re in their 50s. Businesses don’t even bother responding to their job applications letters.

    This is the type of attitude prevailing Barbados.

    Having a BSc or MSc in Social Work makes some people a social worker by title only. Some of them accept these jobs because it pays the bills. An individual must have compassion and a love for people to be involved in social work.

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  • How can anybody in their late 50s or 60s be deemed elderly? In the real world the 80s are now considered real old age. It’s a known fact that many people increase their productivity in their 50s when they have worked out the challenges and have some experience in a multitude of areas. It’s only in our country that anybody will want to deem somebody in their 60s as elderly.
    Something is seriously and dangerously wrong with how we see age. Like a young man in his early thirties told me he can’t understand the youth of today. Obviously he could not understand himself.

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  • According to the latest WHO data published in 2018 life expectancy in Barbados is: Male 73.1, female 78.0 and total life expectancy is 75.6. So I do think that 60’s is elderly, since that is about 10 years before we receive our last call, and
    many of us on this blog are about 10 years away from that. But old people should not be mistreated.

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  • Didn’t this info on jobs in Canada receive extensive coverage in the Press? The Press has a duty to vet their sources and ensure everything is above board especially when gullible people will take its word for gospel. A quick call to the Canadian High Commission would have revealed some pertinent details and ensured a buyer beware mentality by the desperate

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  • @Sargeant

    The gullible will always be with us. It appears Hal Austin was a talker.

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