Barbados in the BIG Picture

Submitted by Tee White

Much of the discussion going on in Barbados today about the current situation in the country tends to ignore both the historical and international context. However, it is very difficult to make sense of the current situation without taking these into account.

From a historical point of view, the origin of modern Barbados can be traced back to 1627, when the rising English merchant class and their aristocratic backers took control of the island and established it as a cog in Britain’s growing imperial economy. Its sole role in this relationship was, through various forms of forced labour and slavery, to generate wealth which would, in the main, be transferred to Britain for consumption. Therefore by the early 1920s, after 200 years under capitalism as slavery and 100 years under capitalism as colonial apartheid, the mass of working class Bajans, who were mainly the descendants of the enslaved Africans, were living in utter poverty and degradation. Mary Chamberlain in her book, Empire and Nation-Building in the Caribbean: Barbados, 1937-1966, points out that “wages in Barbados were the lowest in the region, ….. Barbados was one of the poorest of the British West Indian colonies…… public health was ‘peculiarly deplorable’…and Infant and child mortality were at devastating levels”. Even the British government’s Moyne Commission reported that in 1937, Barbados had the highest infant mortality rate and the second lowest number of government doctors per 100, 000 of the population in Britain’s Caribbean colonies.

It was in order to address these deplorable social conditions that the then generation of Bajans developed the early trade unions and political parties. With the winning of universal suffrage in 1951, there emerged a historic compromise. The old plantocracy, both local and foreign, were guaranteed their continued control of the island’s economy, while the new black governments of the BLP and DLP carried out social reforms to raise the standard of living of the mass of Bajans. These reforms in the fields of education, health care, public transport, public health and social welfare, coupled with the economic benefits of emigration, had a significant impact on the standard of living of most working class Bajans. They were possible because they took place against a background in which the ‘social welfare state’ was the dominant form of management of global capitalism. This approach rejected the 19th century free market arrangements where only the capitalists were considered as having a legitimate claim on the society’s wealth and where for the workers it was ‘every turkey fuh he own craw’. Those who failed to make it in this cut throat approach would have to fall back on the charity of the rich or go over the cliff. The social welfare state rejected this concept and in its place declared the responsibility of the society towards its members ‘from the cradle to the grave.’

Today, the international context has changed significantly. Neo-liberalism has emerged now as the dominant means of organising global capitalism. Its main characteristic is restricting the claim of the working class on the wealth they produce so that more can be funnelled to the rich and super rich. It amounts to robbing the poor to pay the rich. Workers wage levels are frozen or cut under austerity programs, workers are sacked and left jobless, tax cuts are brought in for the rich, social welfare programs which benefit the mass of people are cut or abolished, public utilities are turned into money making opportunities for the rich through privatisation and government contracts to private firms become a new form of corporate welfare. The aim and net effect of these reforms are to erode the standard of living of the working people and, wherever they are applied, there is a deepening of social inequality, with its resultant social despair, frustration and crime.

 

The point that we need to recognise is that the old model of economic and social development that Barbados has experienced over the last 80 or so years is over. This is the nub of the issue. The neo-liberal economic model demands the step by step shredding of the social welfare arrangements to which the country has become accustomed. Despite the claims of the IMF, this is not a temporary arrangement to help the country get back on its feet, but is intended as a permanent setup in which the standard of living of ordinary Bajans is reduced. All over the world, working people are beginning to voice their opposition to this direction of travel. The question is when will Bajans join in.

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  • And while we’re at it, showing how your kind love black people, just read the racists quotes from a man who you unapologetically love and admire……..Rush Limbaugh:

    (1). “I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.”

    (2). “You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed.”

    (3). “Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”

    (4). “Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.”

    (5). “Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”

    (6). “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”

    (7). “They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?”

    (8). “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back (to an African American female caller).”

    (9). “I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve.”

    Yes, my friend….. Rush sho’ luv the black folk.

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  • @ John,

    Ford’s New Map included Anglican churches, 844 plantations, including the 550 acres owned by Sir Richard Seawell, divided in to two plantations. It is worth noting that Quakers were not allowed to hold political or military office, a good example being Dr Thomas Clerk, who owned 265 acres, 125 slaves and two sugar mills. There were lots of Quakers present in Barbados in the late 17th century.
    By the way, the simmering social breakdown in Barbados is not between black Barbadians and traditional white people, but with the Asians (not just Pakistani Muslims, but also Hindus and Sikhs) and Lebanese/Syrians.
    Blacks and whites must come to a settlement. I remember a couple years ago a white professional Barbadian telling me he would like to become involved in politics but black people would not vote for him. He did not say, but I suspected he supported the BLP. I was appalled. We may not be best friends, but unless we work together the Muslims in particular will take the country from us.

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  • Atrax

    Google Mr. Snerdly … Rush Limbaugh’s partner in crime!!!!

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  • Blacks and whites must come to a settlement.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I don’t think they are at war!!

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  • Hal

    Here is the amazing thing!!

    If you look at the early members of the legislature in Barbados you will find they are Quakers!!!

    If ownership of land was the only qualification to be able to vote and Quakers owned all the land what would you expect?

    Quakers also paid all the taxes!!!

    I once asked Bobby Morris if he realized that early politicians never swore an oath of allegiance to the King!!

    I have suggested here that the simplest way for a current politician to avoid searing an oath of allegiance to QEII is to simply become a Quaker … or have some deeply held religious which proscribes oaths … no chance of that!!

    Check Holder, a real heavyweight Quaker family!!

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  • Ford’s New Map included Anglican churches, 844 plantations, including the 550 acres owned by Sir Richard Seawell, divided in to two plantations. It is worth noting that Quakers were not allowed to hold political or military office, a good example being Dr Thomas Clerk, who owned 265 acres, 125 slaves and two sugar mills. There were lots of Quakers present in Barbados in the late 17th century.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If you check this site you will find Richard Seawell was the Speaker of the House of Assembly

    https://www.barbadosparliament.com/main_page_content/show_content/7

    You get the problem our historians have!!

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  • @ John,

    According to the official records (see the report by Governor Atkins) women, minors and Quakers were ineligible to hold high military and political office, although some Quakers owned bigger plantations.
    In the decade, 1675-85, 102 of the too 175 land owners held high office, so we must assume of the remaining 73 a large number were Quakers, while others were absentee landowners..

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  • Lt. Col. Simon Lambert 1660; 1669-1673

    Col. John Burch 1661

    Samuel Farmer 1665, 1667

    John Jennings 1667

    Henry Walrond 1669-1671

    Henry Skeete 1672-1673

    Col. Christopher Codrington 1674, 1678, 1681, 1682

    Col. William Sharpe 1676-1678, 1682-1683

    Col. Richard 1679-1681

    Richard Seawell 1684-1685

    I reckon these were Quakers … and Speakers of the House of Assembly!!

    So much for Governor Atkins!!

    I think there were Quakers who obeyed the law and persecuted other Quakers.

    William Sharpe enforced the law that Quakers could not have Negroes at their meetings.

    Yet, if you look at his will it is clear he was a Quaker … atleast when he wrote it!!

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  • @ John

    We cannot revise history 300 yrs later. I suspect Gov Atkins had a better idea of who was a Quaker in the late 17th century than we do in 2019.

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  • I think Governor Atkins did as he was instructed by the Crown … his boss!!!

    He was Governor from 1674-79.

    Barbados however was a law unto itself.

    Then his boss got tossed when it was feared he was taking England back to Catholicism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III_of_England

    Small wonder the Act of Toleration was passed in 1689!!

    I have an ancestor who spent Christmas Day in stocks for building a wall in a Quaker burying ground on a holy day!!

    The man who put him there was a Quaker at the time he wrote his will!!

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  • … I think you will also find the law prohibiting Quakers from having Negroes at their meetings was passed during his regime!!

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  • I think I have figured out how the Governor was duped into believing there were fewer Quakers than they actually were!!!

    Got to do some research.

    It is simplicity itself!!

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  • Blacks and whites must come to a settlement. …….. We may not be best friends, but unless we work together the Muslims in particular will take the country from us.
    ######
    Nothing good will come from inciting hatred against Muslims. What we need in Barbados is to get past the hundreds of years of racism and apartheid which still disfigure the country today. We need to get to a place where all Bajans can be fully respected for who they are, equally enjoy the wealth of the country and not be subjected to discrmination based on their origin, religious beliefs or any other aspect of their identity.

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  • Nothing good will come from inciting hatred against Muslims.(Quote)

    By the way, the simmering social breakdown in Barbados is not between black Barbadians and traditional white people, but with the Asians (not just Pakistani Muslims, but also Hindus and Sikhs) and Lebanese/Syrians.(Quote)

    Where is the incitement against Muslims? The first principle in discourse is if not sure what is meant, just ask. Do not anticipate the operation of the other person’s brain, or as Bajans would say, don’t try to read my mind.

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  • MUSLIM IMAM BACKS AUSTRIA ATTACKS RADICAL ISLAM: IMAMS TO BE DEPORTED & TURK FUNDED MOSQUES CLOSED

    IMAM TAWHIDI The Imam of Peace Islamic Reformer

    Muslim Imam Backs Austria Attacks Radical Islam: Imams to Be Deported & Turk Funded Mosques Closed! Imam Tawhidi backs Austria who will throw-out 60 Turkish imams and their families that face expulsion from Austria and at least seven mosques are due to be closed under a clampdown on what the government has called “political Islam”.

    Islamic fascist as he bashes Turkey and #Turk President Erdogan. Austria’s chancellor, Sebastian Kurz, said the country could no longer put up with “parallel societies, political Islam and radicalisation,” which he said had “no place in our country”.

    “No such thing as Islamophobia, as it is not irrational, racist or bigoted to have legitimate fears of being beheaded or conquered when you base fears and or any decision on facts that make you allegedly Islamophobic, or as the leftist allege mentally ill. Branding those who oppose radical Islam ‘mentally ill’ or unstable when holding such views on the dangers faced by the world because of Turkey and Islamic fascist is further evidence of the leftist sociafascist use of Critical Theory Multiculturalism, Cultural-Marxism and the fascism of our day political-correctness to stifle descent.

    It is the fact that #Turkish president Erdogan has proclaimed that he and #Turkey will establish a worldwide Islamic caliphate based in Turkey and will further seek to impose sharia law in the world. We are not subjects to be ruled or conquered as the days of the Ottoman Empire were crushed many decades ago.”

    Relations between Austria and Turkey have long been strained, with Kurz insistent to the European Union since he entered office last year that it should cease negotiations about Ankara joining the bloc.

    At the press conference on Friday, Kurz, Kickl, the vice-chancellor, Christian Strache, and the culture minister, Gernot Blümel, said the country had an obligation to be “watchful” of political Islam.

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  • https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2007/10/15/call_screener_snerdley_suspended/

    There has never been a shortage of short-sighted house n’ggers who will attach themselves to white men and advance their agendas in the hope of receiving the crumbs that fall from their tables.

    Sorta like Diamond and Silk on Faux News. All puppets of course. They are strangled with the very puppet strings when they outlive their usefulness.

    Thanks for the quotes, Artax. This is the man that John recommended I listen to so he could straighten out my head.

    SMH.

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  • Georgie Porgie

    JOHN

    YOU ARE A NAUGHTY BOY CAUSE YOU DONT LIKE BLACK PEOPLE

    GUESS WHAT MOST BLACK PEOPLE I KNOW DONT LIKE WHITE PEOPLE

    IT HAS BEEN SO AS LONG AS I KNOW WHEREVER I HAVE BEEN

    ANY BLACK PERSON THAT LIKE A WHITE PERSON IS A PUPPET ;

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  • No. Any black person who allows himself to be manipulated by a white man (who is only using him as a front) against his own interests is a puppet.

    PS. I don’t like white people who don’t like me. That is the reason why most black people don’t like white people. It is a reaction to their hatred. It does not originate with us.

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  • why dont black people like other black people?
    why do black people hurt other black people all over the world?
    why dont white people in Barbados kill other white people?

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  • Black people hate themselves. They were good students of the white man.

    Surely you can do better than this!

    Why don’t white people kill other white people???????

    Are you kidding me?

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  • Georgie Porgie

    ispecifically asked IN PERFECT ENGLISH why dont white people in Barbados kill other white people?

    WHY DO YOU TWIST AND SPIN EVERYTHING?

    laughable is this BS Black people hate themselves. They were good students of the white man.SO WHITE PEOPLE ARE ULTIMATELY TO BLAME FOR THE BLACK MAN;S BEHAVIOUR?

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  • John, there is philosophy of ignorance of which you need to consider my brother …

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  • The population of slaves in Barbados close to the land enjoyed life more than the population of slaves who lived away from the land.

    That enjoyment fostered jealousy in the population that lived away from the land.

    That may be why “black people “hate” black people”!!

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  • … but there were advantages to the town life!!!

    So the country mice were probably also jealous of the town mice!!

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  • If there is any doubt about where we find ourselves the answer is here at BCC. A tutor at the College leaked an exam paper with questions and responses.

    The course in question? Ethics and Citizenship

    ETHICS AND CITIZENSHIP!!!

    Yuh can’t make this up.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/05/18/exam-leaker-disciplined/

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  • Freedom Crier

    The first slave owner in America wasn’t only a Black man but he went to court …. Freedom Crier pure bullshit and a reconstruction of the White man’s history to justify is ill-treatment of the Black population in the Americans and throughout the African continent ..

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  • George Porgie

    Don’t White people kill White people …?

    I challenge you to watch the investigative TV shows Dateline, 2020 and a host of other TV investive shows and would surely ascertain a true glimpse into the White world …it isn’t all it cut out to be…

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  • Georgie Porgie

    Most of the murders you see in the Black community is directly related to poverty and illegal drug activity … A lot of the gangs are fighting over turf …

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  • AGAIN I specifically asked IN PERFECT ENGLISH why dont white people in Barbados kill other white people?

    NOTE THE PHRASE in Barbados

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  • There is crypto-racism in Barbados which was contained in a UN report a few years ago prepared under the eye of former minister Hammie Lashley. The Whites in Barbados are vested in maintaining a non-contentious environment in which to co-exist given their vulnerability of small numbers at risk if it offends the majority population.

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  • Lexicon,

    Watched them this morning on MSNBC. Plenty of white on white kiilings.

    Spin Doctor,

    You asked why black people ALL OVER THE WORLD KILL EACH OTHER. It is therefore not spin on my part to address the ALL OVER THE WORLD WHITE KILLINGS.

    Now… why do white people in Barbados not kill each other?

    How would we even know if they did? They are not investigated as we are. Maybe they use less obvious
    methods that the police can ignore.
    There aren’t that many of them. They will therefore find it easier to stick together.
    Again. There aren’t that many of them. This is not remarkable statistically speaking.
    They are the privileged few. Less stress and strain than black people. Therefore less volatile.
    Most of the murders are gang related. The under-privileged, uneducated, hopeless black boys execute the
    orders. Blacks being used as usual. The whites in Barbados are not under-privileged, uneducated or
    hopeless

    PS. .No, white people are not to blame for black people hating themselves. We have had enough time to get
    our heads in order.

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  • Precisely, David. They HAVE TO STICK TOGETHER.

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  • Plenty of white on white kiilings……………..ALL OVER THE WORLD

    Plenty of BLACK on BLACK kiilings TOO …………….ALL OVER THE WORLD

    THE HEART IS DECITFUL AND DESPERATELY WICKED WHETHER IN BLACK OR WHITE BODIES.

    RE why do white people in Barbados not kill each other?

    How would we even know if they did? They are not investigated as we are.SPECULATION

    Maybe they use less obvious methods that the police can ignore. REALLY? SPECULATION

    There aren’t that many of them. They will therefore find it easier to stick together. A NON SEQUITUR

    They are the privileged few. Less stress and strain than black people. Therefore less volatile.SPECULATION AND UNTRUE

    THAT whites in Barbados are not under-privileged, uneducated or hopeless IS SPECULATION AND UNTRUE
    AND UNFOUNDED BECAUSE THERE ARE INDEED under-privileged, uneducated hopeless whites in Barbados

    WHY DONT THEY KILL ONE ANOTHER?

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  • WHY DONT BLACKS STICK TOGETHER?

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  • We do. In small groups. You are missing the point. Doesn’t the BDLP stick together despite the mock fights? Common interest in keeping the political class untouchable binds like Superglue. They know that they will only be in the wilderness for a short time. They patiently await their turn at the nipple whilst protecting themselves by NO INVESTIGATIONS of or consequences for the former administration.

    And of course they ensure that the pensions of those from the other side who are not reelected are secure – eight years service payable at age fifty. Very few of them are ever taken off the nipple.

    Are they really not just friends putting on a show for the masses?

    So we do stick together in small groups just like any other race.

    But…… We were discussing murders. How many of us blacks actually murder our brothers and sisters? Most of us have our squabbles just as the other races do but we do not murder.

    Some of our squabbles are covered by the media. Those of the other races are NOT.

    Do we really believe they don’t have them???????

    SMH

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  • There are indeed a few underprivileged, uneducated whites in Barbados. A FEW.

    And, not speculation GP, an educated guess. Just as there are suicides that I know about, drug users and drug dealers that I know about, thieves that I know about, wife beaters who the police couldn’t reach in the gated community. so it is reasonable to conclude that this extends to other crimes such as rape and murder.

    I told you before that I know of one prominent whitey who does not keep it all to himself. He is at pains to tell his black staff member that HIS PEOPLE ARE NO DIFFERENT from the blacks.

    PS. Something is not untrue simply because you say so.

    i have seen this myself – THE WHITE GIRLS AT QC STUCK TOGETHER BECAUSE THEIR COMMON PURPOSE WAS TO EXCLUDE US. They converged at the tennis courts at every break and lunch time. From the youngest to the oldest. Once we decided to take over the benches and they were shocked and did not know what to do. What they did not do is join us.

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  • Now why don’t you try answering your own questions –

    Why do whites in Barbados not kill each other?

    Why do blacks in Barbados kill each other?

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  • Came across this link

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/28741/suicide-worry

    Check her out as she had a backlog of over 600 unnatural deaths to clear!!

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  • My guess is black people kill one another mostly for drug related issues.

    They may very well hate one another but it is not hate that motivates the killing … it is business.

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  • Georgie Porgie

    re Just as there are suicides that I know about, drug users and drug dealers that I know about, thieves that I know about, wife beaters who the police couldn’t reach in the gated community. so it is reasonable to conclude that this extends to other crimes such as rape and murder.

    NO THAT IS A NON SEQUITUR IT IS NOT REASONABLE to conclude that this extends to MURDER

    YOU KNOW ABOUT EVATING
    YOUR FRIEND TELL YOU ABOUT EVA TING WHY HE DIDNT TELL YOU BOUT rape and murder TOO? ….AND FAKED ORGASMS?

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  • @ John

    People kill out of hate, not love. Hitler did not kill Jews because of drugs; the Muslims did not kill the black in Darfur because of drugs; whites did not lynch blacks in the Deep South because of drugs; the Hutus did not slaughter the Tutsis in Rwanda because of drugs; young lads in London kill each other because they looked unapprovingly at each other.
    Just look at the number of bloggers on BU who talk about hating people they most probably have never met. Put them facing each other and give the hater a gun and you have another murder.
    .

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  • Hal

    Just trying to answer GP’s question specific to Barbados.

    Got Donna floundering.

    No Hutus and Tutsis here!!

    But even in their case you will find an element of economics … business if you like.

    You will find the lynching in the south was done by Democrats with a specific goal … business, discourage blacks from supporting Republicans.

    Hitler also had a specific goal in mind, to provide a scapegoat to further his agenda … business.

    … and the Muslims … my guess there is an element of economics/business involved.

    Dirty business, but business nonetheless!!

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  • Why do whites in Barbados not kill one another?

    Good question, maybe their Quaker ancestry!!

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  • The Truth Shall Set You Free

    Just look at the number of bloggers on BU who talk about hating people they most probably have never met. Put them facing each other and give the hater a gun and you have another murder. {Quote}

    @ Hal Austin

    Your comments to certain bloggers, especially the blog-master and PLT, often contain words that denote a level of contempt, disdain and disrespect

    I’m sure you probably have never met them either.

    Who made you the Lord of Barbados Underground and gave you the authority to insult those bloggers, even if you don’t agree with their opinions?

    I can also say that, based on reading your insensitive and insulting comments, if they gave you a gun and put you facing David Blog-master, PLT, Georgie Porgie and all the other people you take pleasure pulling down on BU, you will be another serial killer.

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  • Georgie Porgie

    Why don’t black stick together…?

    Why did the Germany Americans look down on the Irish? And even at one point killed and called themselves the know-nothings?

    Why did White in America at one time look down on Italians?

    Why do most White people dislike Jews?

    Why did the IRA killed the British?

    GP, at one point whites used to kill each other …so what your point about unity in the Black community?

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  • George Porgie

    Go and look up the word Know Nothings and is should give you an understanding of the white society in America at one point…

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  • GP

    You got some real heavy questions.

    No one can refute that whites in Barbados do not go around killing whites in Barbados but the same cannot be said of blacks.

    I never asked myself why until now.

    I have heard of “white” families who have sent children away to rehab so I know full well “whites” do drugs.

    The killing seems to be related to the business of drug dealing.

    Maybe “whites” are not dumb enough to get involved in dealing!!!

    OR

    Maybe “whites” are at the top of the pyramid and get “blacks” to do the killing!!

    OR

    Maybe it is just their Quaker ancestry!!

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  • I don’t think hate is a good enough reason to kill!!

    It helps, but it just seems to me there has to be an economic or financial advantage to be gained.

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  • Funny, I don’t feel like I’m floundering. I feel quite in control.

    Another question – why do GP, Moneybrain and John always stick together?

    Many black people do have inferiority complexes and do not like being black. That is a fact. They do not like themselves and do not value themselves as they should. They therefore do not value other black people. That contributes in part to the violence. There are of course other reasons including the economic or financial motive of drug dealing gangs. but this is also linked to the devaluing of black lives and the inferiority complex that leads them to join the gangs in the first place. I have had teachers tell me that many of their students from certain areas and schools don’t even try to study because they have already made up their minds it is hopeless. They start as look outs for the gangs and “move up” from there even after watching the gang members die. And as I understand it, there is not that much money for the foot soldier who has a low life expectancy and seldom lives long enough to “rise” up the ranks. It is literally A DEAD END.

    And I did allude to the idea that the white man probably is at the top of the pyramid pulling the puppet strings.

    PS. The big up white man said that the white people ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM THE BLACK PEOPLE. HE SAID THEY DO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO. He is hardly likely to tell the rape and murders stories because he would only have suspicions and rumours, not proof. I don’t believe that there would be many of them though because the population is very small.

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  • Georgie Porgie

    RE The big up white man said that the white people ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM THE BLACK PEOPLE. HE SAID THEY DO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO.

    IS IT BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE THE SAME SIN NATURE

    ALL HAVE SINNED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD

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  • Another question – why do GP, Moneybrain and John always stick together?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Easy answer … and you say you aren’t foundering!!!

    All 3 born prior to 1960 and raised by the generation who won WWII!!

    Trump is one of us too!!

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  • …. and even more importantly, we escaped the brainwashing of the 1960’s!!

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