Barbados Cabinet Breaks Promise to Consult BWU re: transfer of BTPA to BTMI

The embedded documents support a view the government has backtracked on a promise made to employees at the BTPA and the Barbados Workers Union. In the interest of transparency and integrity it is important for the Mia Mottley led government to clarify the matter if it is to sustain the confidence of the people it serves. The last thing the citizenry wants is a government that was voted to office with an overwhelming mandate to mimic the decisions of its successor.

See relevant documents shared with Barbados Underground.

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  • Sunshine @ 5:48a.m.

    Well said. People are not connecting the dots as you did of chineese social media propogandist Charles Jong,Chief Wiretapper himself,Darwin Dottin,Head instigator of said wiretapping Mia Mottley – and recent decisions to go hard again into this wiretapping business.

    Something that can start under the guise of ‘getting at criminal activities’ – can – as has been used by Mottley before – turn into a major matter of wiretapping of unsuspecting private citizens.

    I need for this skin teet A.G. Dale Marshall to tell us why have they gone to wiretapping as a first resort – especially since the Commissioner of Police told us emphatically – that he knows the guns and drugs are coming through the ports whether ‘wittingly or unwittingly.

    So why not go hard after these so- called businessmen cum Importers of drugs and Guns. People who like what we saw a year ago – who we would have never suspected to be in that business.

    Now we see Knighthoods being given out to some of these same suspects

    Instead of wiretapping this govt should give the resources the Police Force has been crying out for AND MORE IMPORTANTLY INSTEAD OF PAYING THESE SHYTE CONSULTANTS TO DO SQUAT,ALONG WITH THESE IDLE MINISTERS – TAKE THE SAVINGS FROM THE DISBANDING OF THEIR POSITIONS – AND IMPROVE THE SALARY OF POLICE OFFICERS – AND CONSTRUCT MEANINGFUL CAREER PATHS IN THE POLICE SERVICE..

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog February 5, 2019 6:21 AM “Billie Miller should be working for free. Cheltenham should be working for free. Greenidge should be working for free. David Simmons should be working for the people for free.

    I agree with you. Even I do a significant amount of volunteer work, and I’ve done so for decades.

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  • Abigail the Salemite

    Why you don’t stop trying so hard to prove (successfully too) that you’re an IDIOT? In legal matters, when a lawyer realises his client has no defense, he/she opts to settle. The Judge can only rule in a civil matter if there is a case to judge. The PSC’s QC, according to the Nation, made clear that his client did not have a case and he informed the PSC. You are an unapologetic stranger to the truth and have a penchant for being a harbinger. Tres unethical in my view, yet you are constantly accusing others of all manner of unethical behaviour. Abigail Williams suits you to a T. Weren’t you suppose to meet a fellow BUer somewhere in town?🤡🤡

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Sir Simple…we know that is how it’s done in the real world, even Barbados has started a version where from high school if you want university credits, you volunteer at QEH, old people’s homes or wherever…then in the real world ya volunteer during college and university and when ya finished university, ya give back, when ya working, ya give back through mentoring the young, not raping them, …and now the giving back is so much easier with social media…so when ya old and retired …ya can give back even more, because ya got the experience and knowledge that present and future generations need to move forward…and excel, build wealth and progress within the majority population.

    ….but not those slaveminded greedy lowlifes with their 1950s mentality where they believe that they are all ENTITLED…to rob their own people and everyone else because they are corrupt together, related to each other and keep each other’s nasty secrets of theft and organized crime..since they are lawyers and senators and government ministers, that makes it right…….in their warped and wicked minds.

    Organized crime and human rights abuses…that is what it is against the black majority population and as some of us know, some vulnerable whites like the Knox family and the theft of the Kingsland Estates.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Wait…you sent someone in town to meet me…really..

    ah got someone for u to meet with though….ticktock..

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  • @enuff

    A reasonable summary of the matter, now the hardtalk question – do you like the optics of the Dottin appointment?

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  • Sierra Sierra Uniform

    Somebody bajans will finally develop the ability to critically analyze the truth from fanciful speeches. I am convinced the low emotional intelligence of most bajans is truly been exploited by our leaders and decision makers. Why is it so hard for many of us to see that the short term vision of Barbados by our leaders are very self serving. Congruence of words and actions just not adding up.

    Too many are willing to sell our the poor for a social invite and maintain friendships. When wunna die carry all the wealth from the exploitation of the masses with wunna.

    Wiretapping OMG, Prof Owen Arthur warned we but we so dumb and like gullible sheep goats fell for the fanciful talk. Its about control ask Owen or Glyne Murray. If only wunna know about the level of eavesdropping capabilities of the GOB, if only. Who wunna think gave permission to order the equipment for world cup?

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    So based on all of that…Marshall already has a judgement in place and him and Mia got taxpayers money ready to give away to Dottin…because they already saw he won the case…what about the legal process and all the points of law…..and all the technicalities that come into play during that process…including the appeals process….really…well this I gotta see…

    and I am the unethical one, ah never tief an old person’s estate, never robbed injured people…never tapped a bajan’s phone…ILLEGALLY… or otherwise.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Look…just admit yall plan to rob the taxpayers BLIND..as usual ..to line Dottin’s pockets for all that he owes Mia..and all the dirt he got in his safe ready to unleash on ya backsides if ya don’t comply…….it will be easier for the people to digest…..that they will understand…for when it’s time to vote everyone of u thieves out of the parliament..

    And don’t try paying Dottin in secret…unless it is from Mia’s multiple offshore accounts…

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Ya see…Dottin could not take the case to the CCJ…BECAUSE HE RESIGNED…

    Explain that shit and why does he now have to be paid BY TAXPAYERS…

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  • @ David
    We are moving towards disbandment of democracy and has been on this path since the mid70s.
    Our system of government now seems to be nothing more than party paramountcy.
    This position presents the strongest understanding of Hal Austin’s view that we are a failed state.

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  • @ William
    What paramountcy what???!!
    Look up “idiocracy” and see where we are headed….

    Grass….
    It is here…

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    They are trying to split this up to bamboozle the taxpayers…yes Dottin was removed from office PENDING…court proceedings…..court proceedings which turned out against him because he RESIGNED BEFORE APPEALING TO CCJ.. which null and voided his case…ah don’t know if he was his own lawyer…but….his case would have been stronger if he had not RESIGNED..

    So now they want to tell us that the taxpayers must pay Dottin for WRONGFUL DISMISSAL…but as I see it…his cockup of resigning also null and voided that …BECAUSE HE RESIGNED……

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  • Its should be easy to ascertain the truth of Pat’s opinion to the PSC regarding any settlement for the former COP. Simply ask any member who was part of the PSC and see what their response is, I believe there may be a divergence of opinion but it was tres convenient for the AG to speak of a favourable opinion prior to announcing a potential settlement. In any event it is not beyond the realm of possibility for Boards to ignore legal advice, it happens often with varying results. In this case the Gov’t will tout an opinion that it favours because of the various interconnecting individuals and politics.

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  • Sunshine Sunny Shine

    T. Inniss

    There are many things right now on the rock that threatens national security. Guns might be the obvious, but the greater of these are corrupt activities that enrich and advance the wicked ideals of those financing weapons for destruction. Barbados is corrupt and Transparency national has attested to that fact. Mottley by thinking that listening in on the phone calls of the citizenry will aid and abet her purpose to control crime; unless the intent is to advance her political stance by gaining intelligence and subsequent advantage, is a bigger rogue than I imagine. The criminal we have now are well connected and by the look of things, well financed. They are bold and daring. Do you honestly believe they will not get around wiretapping? Shite if they can get guns they can get hold of other technologies that can block the tap. Mottley reasoning is tricksy for advancing her diabolical plan to deprive its citizenry of privacy through reasoning that crime needs wires tapped. Imagine the same effort for transparency and strengthening institutions responsible for auditing government finances. Where is the effort in that besides the paltry moves to appear that they will make those in their league accountable We need government to operate in transparency, but they practice only the speeches and deliver non transparent actions. Rogue-works thinks that Barbadians remain largely foolish (though many still are). She is not even a year into her PM-hood and already her shite is clear.

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  • @William

    Barbados is a country like any other always working to be better.

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  • “Ya see…Dottin could not take the case to the CCJ…BECAUSE HE RESIGNED…”

    Perhaps you meant RETIRED…….. rather than RESIGNED?

    I recall a letter from the PSC, dated June 10, 2013 was sent to then GG Sir Elliott Belgrave, recommending the retirement of Dottin and he was sent on “administrative leave.” According to reports he was still receiving CoP’s salary until he RETIRED.

    And his RETIREMENT was the basis upon which he was denied hearing by the CCJ.

    “The CCJ in written reasons issued yesterday (July 18, 2017), denied the refusal of interim relief that Mr Dottin sought following his removal from the ‘top cop’ post 4 years ago. Since his claimed relief was to enable him to continue in office and he had RETIRED before his appeal to the CCJ, his appeal was without practical merit.”

    To use Sir Fuzzy’s phrase…..”Just saying…”

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  • hehehe, resigned retired, semantics, right Mistress of Misinformation

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  • @ David
    It’s the citizens who are trying to make the country better. Leave it to the decadent political class and it would be destroyed.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Redguard…they love to spin, but not one of them can that shite to CCJ…don’t know why someone who VOLUNTARILY RESIGNED….Dottin did not have to resign, he could have waited for the court process to be completed….NOW SITTING ON HIS PENSIONED ASS WITH NOTHING MUCH TO DO, NOW WANTS TO BE PAID FOR BEING DISMISSED…when he was the one wanted to resign…..steupppss….now want to come back with his criminal mischief against vulnerable bajans…

    he needs to open a soup kitchen and feed the poor…with the amount of DIRT and leverage he got on everyone on the island …getting the money to open soup kitchens and homeless shelters for all those old men and old women now sleeping on the streets…young homeless people …after school sports programs for kids…to divert them from a life of crime…would be a breeze…

    but the colonial slaves with the 1950s mentality of take, take, take…and ONLY from their own disenfranchised people …are limited in intellect and unable to carry such thoughts..

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    they love to spin, but not one of them can TAKE that shite to CCJ..

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    UK needs to pick up their colonial slaves, they are an embarrassment….the island would be much better off without them…

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  • @ Dearest SSS

    You rightfully said and I quote

    “…unless the intent is to advance her political stance by gaining intelligence and subsequent advantage, is a bigger rogue than I imagine…”

    You are as intelligent as you are beautiful!

    Go to the head of the class.

    The key thing in this one term government that they and the other fellows have always lacked is VISION.

    The fact is that, BEING DEVOID OF ANY STRATEGY TO DIVERSIFY THE ECONOMY, the first thing that she is doing is dilluting the voting process by easedropping on people to identify the people who do not like her and her regime and her plans.

    Note that this is not about doing what MAKES PEOPLE AWARE OF THE COMPETENCIES THAT YOU HAVE but moreso about identifying the persons, WHO IN THE ABSENCE OF SUCH VISION, will speak out to their friends about those incompetencies.

    That my dear, is the sign of paucity and imcompetence that is MUGABE MOTTLEY.

    Everybody likes to say that she is “so brilliant” but, in the face of all that we are seeing, AND THAT WHICH THE OLE MAN PERSONALLY KNOWS, WE THE PEOPLE AND THE SHEEPLE ALL START TO SEE THAT SHE IS “BLOWING AIR UP WE POOCHES”.

    This is why MUGABE HAS BROKEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BREAK her meaningless covenent, the protocols and Union agreements because she is reverting to that imminent position where she is a 5 year government and they are consolidating their WEAK POSITION, UNILATERALLY!

    If you doubt me tell me where I can go and see her manifesto!

    DESPOTS, DO NOT HAVE MANIFESTOS

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  • “Redguard…they love to spin, but not one of them can that shite to CCJ…don’t know why someone who VOLUNTARILY RESIGNED….Dottin did not have to resign, he could have waited for the court process to be completed….….”

    STOP MISLEADING BU

    Dottin did not “VOLUNTARILY RESIGNED….”

    At the time the PSC made the recommendation for the then GG to retire Dottin in June 2013, he was 63 years old. He went on pre-retirement leave in November 2016 and by the time his case was to heard at the CCJ in 2017, he had already retired, at the age of 66 years old.

    “Dottin took the matter to court, seeking an injunction to prevent him being forced to retire and the appointment of a new permanent Commissioner, as well as an order that the status quo be maintained so he could return to work as Commissioner of Police.”

    As part of her ruling in September 2013, High Court Judge, Madame Justice Reifer refused to order Dottin’s return to work. His challenge to her ruling was eventually dismissed by the Court of Appeal in March 2017.

    By that time, REINSTATEMENT was NOT POSSIBLE as Dottin had RETIRED, having gone on PRE-RETIREMENT LEAVE in November 2016.

    “In July 2017, the CCJ dismissed an application from Dottin to appeal for relief. According to the CCJ, Dottin’s claimed relief was to enable him to continue in office and since he had RETIRED BEFORE his appeal to the CCJ, his appeal was “without practical merit”.

    “His substantive case concerning his dismissal remains to be heard by the Barbados High Court.”

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  • Hence the label dottined!

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Ah…I stand corrected…….did not even do the research…and why should i…

    Strengthens my case for Dottin to keep his ass quiet and stop blackmailing the present government…into letting him have a go at taxpayer’s money and MORE of all the mischief he has been accused of…

    it is not the taxpayer’s fault that his retirement age FELL DURING THE COURT PROCEEDINGS EITHER……THEY DON’T OWE HIM shit…

    Dottin is no damn saint…he was a blot on the police force after he overstayed his time…

    yall know I am not letting this go right…

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    I can find an even better word than dottined…ticktock…

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  • Under circumstances where the PSC used a number of allegations against Dottin as their basis for making the recommendation to then GG Belgrave to retire him, the Commission also extended a level of FAIRNESS towards the former CoP. They made sure his pension rights remained intact.

    According to paragraph 2 and 3 on page 1 of the PSC’s letter to the GG.

    “As we understand it, this authority need not be supported by any misconduct on the part of the person to be retired. Although there is an abundance of evidence that the Commissioner has engaged in conduct which is worthy of censor, and which we feel duty bound to draw to your attention, we do not believe that such conduct is a requirement for the exercise of this power.”

    “The Commission believes that the information in its possession provides strong evidence of criminal activity by the Commissioner. We also believe that he engaged in conduct that is worthy of discipline censure. However, we believe that pursuing these matters would embroil the Commission and the Commissioner in prolonged controversy which is not in the interest of either party or the public. We recommend this course of action, therefore, because it is not disciplinary, would protect the Commissioner’s pension rights in a way that some dishonourable termination may not, and would allow both offices to quickly move on with serving the interest of the public. Our only considerations for making this recommendation are the age of the Commissioner, the interest of the Royal Barbados Police Force and public interest.”

    The letter further outlines the allegations of wiretapping.

    However, as a “first class idiot,” I’m obligated to look at things a bit more rationally……cause wunnuh dun know idiots duz be slow……as my friend nocixel.

    Only last week on BU, the “legal experts” were, more or less, demonstrating their legal expertise on the definition of “evidence,” relative to allegations levelled against David Thompson and Donville Inniss.

    One contributor suggested: “In a democratic society, where there is the rule of law, a suspect is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. This is done by an open and fair trial in a court of law. ‘Evidence’ are simply ALLEGATIONS until guilt is proven.”

    While another suggested: “there is no such thing as evidence until it is TESTED in court via the rules of evidence and other laws. until then it is mere information.”

    Nothing wrong with that. I AGREE that ANY individual is innocent until proven guilty.

    Risking the chance of being WRONGFULLY ACCUSED of DEFENDING government’s decision to appoint Dottin as “crime consultant”…….

    ………..my questions as it relates to his case (which is something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT) are:

    (1). Certain allegations were levelled against Dottin. Did he not have a right to remain innocent until proven guilty?

    (2). How could the PSC recommend Dottin’s retirement based on evidence that was not “tested in court via the rules of evidence and other laws?”

    (3). In Dottin’s case, was this evidence simply allegations or hearsay until guilt is proven, or does the rules change according to one’s profession?

    (4). Was the GG within his rights to send Dottin on “administrative leave,” based on evidence presented by the PSC, which was not tested in court?

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “The Commission believes that the information in its possession provides strong evidence of criminal activity by the Commissioner. ”

    Art…I believe they were extending a kindness to Dottin and still try to preserve the integrity of the force and the commission…but Dottin was obviously not gracious or thankful…and got the godammn never to want to be paid out by taxpayers….and it gets even worse than that…it does…but..

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    and got the godammn NERVE to want to be paid out by taxpayers….

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  • David/BU

    Can you get hold of that letter from Pat Cheltenham with that advice re Dottin’s matter and publish it ?

    Can you ascertain when was that advice from Cheltenham Q.C given – and was it to the current Police Service Commission in its present configuration or was it to the last PSC under Guyson Mayers ?

    The answer to that may throw a different light to what Dale Marshall and the BLP agents are putting forward

    I ALSO AGREE ENTIRELY WITH SARGEANT – A BOARD IS NOT BOUND BY ANY LEGAL ADVICE GIVEN TO IT.

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  • Sunshine Sunny Shine

    My Sweet Piece

    Ain’t the criminals bold. You have daylight shootings, and then there is Rogue-Works; firing shots in open air her plans to wiretap all a sundry. Do you see the strategy? If it is in the open, it cannot be looked upon as operating in non transparency. Put it out there till all become sensitize and after all the noise and fuss passes, enact her spy moves. By then, the justification for it would have been proven with another round of shootings and killings since the best plan to solve the crisis is wiretap all. She has the perfect cover for her set up, and her open air move is the best place to hide her real intentions. She is gauging response, Piece because she promised to go the way of referendums. How comes this wiretapping move is not a referendum for the people to decide?

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  • “I believe they were extending a kindness to Dottin and still try to preserve the integrity of the force and the commission…”

    I mentioned that re: “……….the Commission also extended a level of FAIRNESS towards the former CoP. They made sure his pension rights remained intact.”

    However, what I’m querying is, if a man is innocent until proven guilty and evidence remains mere information or allegations until it is tested in court…….despite how we may feel about Dottin or his appointment as “crime consultant.”

    ………….(and putting those feelings aside)…..

    ………..….was it FAIR for him to be forced into “early retirement” based ONLY on the evidence presented by the PSC, which was NOT tested in court ……….even at the time the recommendation was made?

    He was at home drawing “free money”…….he gine soon get some more free money……..and he get a pick where some more “free money” will soon begin to roll in.

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  • Thank you, Artax. Now I get it. I wonder though, if the evidence is that strong against Dottin why the AG does not simply allow him to wait interminably for his court date like all the rest of us. Why the rush to settle out of court??????

    This makes his appointment as consultant appear even more dubious.

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  • LABOUR UNREST.

    Scores of upset, laid off Rotherley Construction workers are staked out at the company’s Proute, St Thomas offices after not being paid for weeks.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/238350/workers-protest-rotherley

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  • Artax

    Serious allegations with credible evidence would necessitate his being placed on leave until his case was heard. Think of the consequences of allowing him to remain as Commissioner of Police under those circumstances.

    Are we now to understand that the evidence is not as credible as the Commission maintained?

    This looks bad. Bring forward the case is what I say. Let the public hear the evidence.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Rotherley lost a huge contract..

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Donna..I see Art’s concern, but again, the commission was looking at his age…which he was apparently not looking at, still isn’t…and several other factors…including his years of service…..otherwise, how do you have evidence…of criminality, via information…which could be tapes…physical evidence…and not charge him for these accusations of criminal activity.

    I believe they made the right call…..but Dottin is the wild card….he still refuses to go quietly into the night..

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Ah don’t think Barbados was ready for that level of turmoil..back then, maybe now, arresting a commissioner of police for criminal activity …nah..but now..ha…happy to see that…social media helps…

    Dottin has so much info…..he probably will not know where to begin.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Maybe Enuff in Wonderland can furnish us with details…faithful and diligent servant .

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  • David
    “A reasonable summary of the matter, now the hardtalk question – do you like the optics of the Dottin appointment?”

    “It is my considered opinion that there is no viable defence to the dismissal of Darwin Dottin and the matter ought to be compromised with dispatch. For the record, I had also tendered that advice to the client (PSC) who was attracted to it. On that basis I, together with senior counsel for Darwin Dottin, had explored in detail the terms of a possible settlement. Unfortunately, higher counsel intervened and those deliberations came to naught. The Queen’s Counsel said he was not surprised that High Court Justice Margaret Reifer, who adjudicated the matter when Dottin filed an injunction against the GG and PSC’s actions pointedly observed: the evidence provided by way of affidavit evidence in this matter does not, at this stage of the proceedings, meet the threshold necessary to successfully ground a plea of national security. Cheltenham added: The plea of national security was misconceived and lacked force and coherence. I was unsure of its genesis.”
    National security? When the Salemites are baying, everything is bad optics.

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  • This situation needs some sunlight. If we are to trust in the decision we need transparency.

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  • the evidence provided by way of affidavit evidence in this matter does not, at this stage of the proceedings, meet the threshold necessary to successfully ground a plea of national security
    +++++++++++++++++++
    If these are the words of the learned Judge, could someone explain why she denied the injunction?

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  • “Serious allegations with credible evidence would necessitate his being placed on leave until his case was heard. Think of the consequences of allowing him to remain as Commissioner of Police under those circumstances.”

    Donna

    I understand allegations of that nature would “necessitate” the individual who allegedly committed the offences to be “placed on leave until his/her case was heard.”

    Included in the PSC’s letter to the GG was a detailed description of the allegations, as well as the following summation:

    “We have reviewed the information in possession of the Commission surrounding the rampant reports of phone tapping. The information provides irrefutable evidence of illegal phone tapping, but also paints a picture of circular communication and an unwillingness of persons in authority to take responsibility for dealing with this matter. Up to now the Commission has been trying to have the reports of tapping properly investigated by pushing on every door from behind which a solution may be found, but receiving no useful response.”

    However, the PSC recommended Dottin’s retirement “pursuant to section 11 (1) (a) of the Pensions Act, Cap 25 as follows:

    “Subject to Section 13B, the Governor General may require an officer to whom this section applies to retire from the service of the Crown in a civil capacity at any time after he attains the age of 55 years.”

    Did the PSC make an arbitrary decision to “authenticate” the evidence?

    So………on one hand we have the PSC saying they have all this “information that provides irrefutable evidence” that Dottin was involved in illegal phone tapping ……….

    ………… but on the other hand, they seem to be conceding that taking action against him may be long and drawn out and given his age, they recommended his “forced retirement.”

    And Donna……….I agree with you………. “this situation (definitely) needs some sunlight.”

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  • I wonder whether Chettleham rendered his opinion before or after the Bowen matter with Dottin. And I will tell you why but first this-

    Most persons are innocent until proven guilty – the presumption of innocence in other words or for Latin buffs, tem quilbet presumitur innocens nisi probetur nocens, and the burden of proof is on he who accuses, ei incumbit probatio qui dicit.

    In a criminal matter the standard of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt and in civil court it is based on the balance of probability.

    Beyond a reasonable doubt – the jury is told that in order to convict it must be persuaded “so that you are sure” that from the evidence adduced in the trial the defendant is guilty of the crimes charged.

    Balance of probability or preponderance of evidence- the court, often a judge, decides these matter based on “more likely than not”, or for the party convinced the court more than 50% as to the soundness of their claim

    Evidence in criminal matters begin with information captured on police statement forms from eye witnesses and forensic experts which is persuasive enough to cause the DPP to proffer charges. It is only when that information is given by a witness duly sworn before a court, as evidence on parole, subjected to examination by lawyers and the Judge based on rules of evidence and other laws that is accepted by the court as evidence in the matter

    On the other hand, evidence in civil matter is adduced by affidavits which are sworn statements about the claim at hand. It is only in certain cases that witnesses give oral evidence in civil matters. Each allegation filed by the claimant or plaintiff by way of affidavit is countered by the defendant by affidavit from the defendant or witnesses. Most civil matters are settled before adjudication. Parties are encouraged to settle by the court or they settle on their own accord. If it reaches the stage where it has to be decided by the Judge he does based on the evidence presented via the affidavits or in the rare occasion when witnesses are heard.

    To Dottin- it seems to me, as a trash collector, that Dottin from the documents filed in the Bowen matter may have been guilty of breaching the rules that apply to wiretapping and I believe humbly based on what I have read (the affidavits of the two special branch detectives who admitted they tapped phones at the request of Dottin) that Dottin should have been disciplined and fired. No where in those affidavits is it suggested that the tapping was legally sanctioned. Because of the pervasive nature of wiretapping the law pertaining to wiretapping is very strict and should be adhere to strictly. Dottin appears to have been oblivious to this and his claim of national security interests seem to have been an afterthought or a last resort.

    The law is such that there can be many opinions for a given matter. More than likely a QC’s opinion can be very persuasive but it is not binding.

    In coming to an agreement sometimes counsel take into consideration the social and public standing of the parties and the damages that can flow from certain decisions. In this case a long drawn out court fight that would have no doubt become public would not have benefited either party which I see expressed in the PSC document posted above.

    It appears that Dottin received all the monies to which he would have been entitled had he continue to be CoP so except for reputational injury what other monies is he entitled to?

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  • Short answer as far as I can tell – NONE.

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  • James Greene
    The Salemites being silenced, that is better than any “monetary” gain. 🤣🤣Anyhow, the Mugabe government is at the moment amending the legislation to increase the number of judges and make the appointment of judges a recruotment process–internationally.

    David
    Have you sourced the Sandals contracts yet?

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  • @enuff

    If you mean the Barbados agreement that is a no.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Enuff 68…ya are a real creep though..ya do know that information hit the world stage right, why ya think am so quiet, ah tired….you take me for a robot or what…steupppps…

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  • David

    So you can respond to enuff but not a word on what I asked for earlier.

    YOU UNDERSTAND HOW PERCEPTIONS ARE HARDENED INTO REALITY I HOPE.

    Nevertheless whether it is you or someone acting on your behalf – then you owe it to us who contribute on this site and help make discussion interesting and provoking – at least for those who are not agents of the BLP – PLEASE SHOW SOME GOOD OLE MANNERS AND BE CIVIL.

    Thank you very much.

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  • @ David, can I be blogmaster for a day so I could ban some of these bloggers ?

    On second thought don’t answer that. lol

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  • Donks Gripe and Josh

    Have Mottley and Teets Marshall ever hear the dictum ‘let sleeping dogs lie.’

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  • Hants,
    Before you begin banning please accept my list.

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  • 3> Mariposa 3>
    I am missing your bowling…

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  • ————-I have nothing against or for homosexuals/heterosexuals. How you get your kicks is your business————–

    It is amazing how Barbadians would proclaim how conservative they are and how they would conduct war against anyone who is not straight. But recent events have shown that they are nothing more than hypocrites.

    Folks who would condemn homosexuality now find that some homosexual affairs are private matters and should not be discussed in the new media.

    Wunna cannot see why we are failing… Corruption, lies, double standards, hypocrisy, …..
    You name it

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  • theo,

    for me it is the aggression that always seems to accompany it

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  • Sierra Sierra Uniform

    My former friend and mentor got rid of his cellphones as he did not trust the abuse of the technology. It was unfortunate he died and I hope that someone will leak the info that was uncovered on Dottin and his cronies to appease Mia. Wunna don`t have a clue of how the software was used to invade the privacy of the citizens. Chelteham and other lawyers are just about a pay day. The police force is not what its use to be before just hoping to get my pension and leave.

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  • Sierra Sierra Uniform

    Not even passwords for your phones and emails may be safe.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @theogazerts February 5, 2019 7:49 PM “It is amazing how Barbadians would proclaim how conservative they are and how they would conduct war against anyone who is not straight.”

    Can you please name some Bajans, you don’t need to name all, just two or three will do. Can you please name those 2 or 3 who have ever said that they will conduct war against anyone who is not straight?

    We all have homosexual relatives. We have all always had homosexual relatives. Barbados is one of the most sexually liberal, most tolerant societies that I have ever experienced. Significantly more liberal that either the United States or Canada. Back in the 1950’s one of my elementary school teachers was a homosexual, all of the children knew, all of the parents knew, the whole village knew. The lady was treated as respectfully as any other woman in the community. She was our elder, so respect was due and was given.

    I don’t know where this modern nonsense has come from about Bajans “conducting war” against homosexuals? If my parents and grandparents are hearing this nonsense, they must be rolling in their graves.

    Bajans know yourselves. Barbados has never been as homophobic as Jamaica, or the United States, or Canada.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Maybe because Barbados is such a small place that some of our business class, some of our professional class, some of our political class don’t know what to do with themselves if they don’t have a “job” to go to. They have centered their lives around their job, and once the job is gone they are lost. they have not spent enough time developing personal nor family relationships, spiritual relationships, community relationships, they whole identity and status is tied up in the job, and when the job is gone they are lost.

    And then there is this unseemly scramble to hold on to the job…because without the job?

    Zero.

    Nothing

    In a place bigger than Barbados such people may have developed significant hobbies, volunteer interest, cultural or social interests. Something other than the barrenness of the job.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ My Dearest SSS

    ” A referendum is a promise and a promise is a comfort for a fool…”

    This Mugabe Regime is a one term 5 year government

    Note how the sentiment and the people who are vocal about Mottley are on the increase.

    Note the quantity of anti Mugabe sentiments

    Then note the quality of the material that is out there THAT IS COMING TO THE FORE ON THE BLOG.

    THE ISSUE NOW IS A SIMPLE SINGULAR ONE

    HOW TO GET THE MESSAGE TO THE MASSES?

    Let de ole man explain dat comment.

    Right now, the distribution stream is one tracked

    The Message is being pushed by one stream VIA THE FACEBOOK AND BARBADOS UNDERGROUND BLOG.

    DE OLE MAN HAS BEEN SAYING THAT the Mugabe Regime will pass laws to override both of these entities soon.

    Then what do we do?

    I am saying that we need to deploy a counter NOW.

    THAT COUNTER HAS TO BE A PLANNED THING THAT HAS “INTERNATIONAL SILOS” LOCATED OFFSHORE

    We the people have to replicate the Barbados Underground matrix immediately

    So for example.

    You are in Europe

    You need to create a website that its sile purpose will be for Graphics and Anti Mugabe messages.

    So people who ARE NOT INTO MUGABE’S MESSAGE CAN POST THEIR GRAPHICS.

    De ole man would provide you with about 1000 Stoooid cartoons to start that site.

    Domain name should be something catchy

    Like http://www.WeFightMugabe.com

    http://Www.MugabeDespotandRogue.net

    http://Www.MiatheLastMugabe.net

    Have your tech guys anonymice the site ownership and registration so that there is no connection to you etc.

    Then have them make the site like http://www.Imgur.com but compatible with iframes.

    de ole man will suggest a feature in the site’s images to help promote the said site’s usage/visitation

    We cannot be tied to, NOR DEPENDENT ON, BARBADOS UNDERGROUND all the time because Mottley and her agents will soon seek to subvert and shut down this “Last bastion of social commentary”

    De ole man has a new email by the way

    For those of you stalwarts who reside outside Barbados and are committed to the “Movement” to rout Mugabe electronically, and

    1.Can afford the registration fee for a domain name annually

    2.the annual fee to ensure your name is private and not associated as the registered owner of the site

    3.a SSL annual fee

    4.Are “friends of all bajan Patriots ANS satellites of none of Mugabe’s Regime” feel free to reach out to the conspiracist

    It will cost some money to make the sites functional and safeguard them

    ENABLING Blogging Capacity on the site demands more time to maintain since you need to (1) monitor and (2) possibly respond to the blogged content.

    After that step there are 4 more actions.

    The second will be to *** which will

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Enuff in Wonderland…ya see that repulsive little spin ya put on that Dottin fantasy…later for you…

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  • @James Greene,

    for me it is the aggression that always seems to accompany it(Quote)

    Are you suggesting that Barbadian culture is aggressive? The truth is historically Barbados has never been hostile to homosexuality, especially lesbianism. The intolerance is post–independence.

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  • Sunshine Sunny Shine

    My Sweet Piece

    We all must do what we must. Your ideas are well received. Will speak to my boys to see what we can do amidst our busy schedules. However, I prefer to deal with facts or follow dots towards discovery. As it stands, I share your ideals about Rogue-works Mottley. If all that she has done so far is anything to go by, she is a threat to all that Barbados once call free and private.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    I am not a psychiatrist

    So de ole man cant analyze the state of mind of the chairman Chatrani

    Neither is one a “handwriting expert” to ascertain if the signatures on these documents are those of the purported authors

    But what one is seeing as “a pattern” IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE MUGABE REGIME APPOINTMENTS is a pattern and “signature of engagement ”

    Examine this letter of betrayal AND THAT OF LEODEAN at the Barbados Water Authority

    What one sees is a contempt for the parties being addressed by the writers THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE STYLE OF MUGABE.

    They consider themselves god’s gift to mankind (intentionally lowercased) and speak to their servants with scant respect.

    THAT MISCONCEPTION OF THEIRS HAS TO BE CHANGED.

    And, given the almost 10,000 viewer count of this Stoopid Cartoon below, fe ole man puts it to you that IT WILL BE ONCE WE THE PEOPLE PUT OUR MIND TO IT.

    IT REALLY DOES NOT MATTER HOW MANY INITIATIVES MUGABE GETS STARTED IN BARBADOS NOW.

    WHAT MUST BE CENTRAL TO THE MINDS OF THE PEOPLE IS THAT THEY HAVE THE VOTE AND CONSTITUTIONAL GUARANTEE TO END HER DESPOTIC RULE.

    Wunna have got to be afraid of this despot AND USE YOUR VOTE TO LIMIT HER EXPANDING POWER OF ABUSE.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster

    Your assistance please with an item here for Bajan Patriots thank you

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Dearest SSS

    It is good that a patriot almost 4000 miles away from this Rock in the Caribbean we call home can make that pledge

    We bajans cannot pause in this action to rout this Mugabe SCOURGE

    De ole man is going to ask the Honourable Blogmaster to put up a blog about this matter called “Saving Barbados – From Mugabe…”

    I going adjust that text at 10.17 PM and write a Call to Action for Bajan Patriots to come to the fray.

    Routing Mugabe in 2023 is going to be difficult BECAUSE SHE WILL CHANGE MANY LAWS IN THE INTERIM.

    BUT de ole man has been shown how it will be done.

    Barbados and Barbadians WILL SEE THAT THEY HAVE NO CHOICE, NONE!!!

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    Almost 10,000 views

    De ole man grandson knows how to get one message seen by 50,000 bajans!!!

    PATRIOTS RISE UP!!

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  • Good luck! Those cartoons are better suited 8 months prior to, not 8 months after the election of a brand new administration. When the garbage trucks roll in and garbage is being collected across all Bdos or gas prices drop but there’s still no fuel tax what meaning will these cartoons have? When the Court reopens with 5 additional judges, with dedicated Commercial and Family courts and additional court rooms, what will be the relevance of these cartoons? This government has clearly recognised that new POLICIES and LEGISLATIVE are also bona fide agents of change and are not sitting and waiting on big money projects; and it continues to churn out progressive changes week after week after week. Three words–South Coast Sewerage. My popcorn popping.🤣🤣🤣🖐🏾

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  • Piece ! dont mek enuff hurt head so early in the morning
    Yesterday there was a picture in local media of men wading through garbage looking for anything than can help them to make a living.
    Mia cares

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “When the Court reopens with 5 additional judges, with dedicated Commercial and Family courts and additional court rooms, what will be the relevance of these cartoons? ”

    And when the bribery and corruption with the insurance companies still create a backlog when lawyers take their cut and judges take their cut …cause Haynes still got CGI cases clogging up the Supreme Court…what then…what about the land cases from nineteen hundred and sixty four…this is the 21st century…..

    we got time to watch it all…ticktock.

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  • “Piece ! dont mek enuff hurt head so early in the morning..”

    YOU……. of all people…..,NOW lauding PUDRYR’s cartoons, when in the past you described them as “stoopid?”

    This is an excellent example of how being on the OTHER SIDE CHANGES one’s perspective on certain issues.

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  • WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Enuff..ya remember Leslie Haynes right…and all those CGI personal injury cases…right…just reminding ya…

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    You fail to understand what a campaign to Rout a Dictatorship involves.

    And you fail to understand what is being “fought against”.

    De ole man shall explain with an example of what THE CAMPAIGN WILL BE.

    The Person who has been chosen to run against Mia Mottley in St Michael NE HAS BEEN CHOSEN TO LOSE THEIR SEAT

    BUT WIN A GOVERNMENT!!!

    Do you understand that?

    Here de ole man is 4 years and 4 months out telling you Campaign Strategy.

    Why?

    Because you need to understand how to lose skirmishes BUT win wars.

    I will tell BISHOP REVEREND PASTOR JOSEPH ATHERLEY WHAT HE HAS TO DO.

    He has to announce that HE WILL run against MIA AMOR MOTTLEY IN 2023!!!

    And like Fantasia’s song he expects to lose to win

    HE EXPECTS TO LOSE A SEAT TO WIN BACK THE COUNTRY BARBADOS FROM THE DICTATOR MOTTLEY.

    AND ALL HIS CANDIDATES WILL REPEAT THIS MESSAGE!

    SELF SACRIFICE FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF COUNTRY

    You think dat de ole man ONLY TALKING BOUT STOOPID CARTOON MESSAGES? but you and Mugabe ent understand what IS COMING AT WUNNA.

    FOR A THIRD PARTY TO WIN it cannot float a manifesto it must present a portfolio of accomplishments!

    This is what is going to tilt the balance in favour of the Incoming Party THAT PLUS *** as well as DE OLE MAN COUNTER MESSAGE CONCERNING DE 30 TO ZERO WHITEWASH

    heheheheh

    It does not matter what wunna does my man, about the ballot box stuffing causing, we bajans ent going be ruled by no Dictator

    OUT WITH MUGABE!!

    MUGABE BEGONE!!!

    AND EVERY SINGLE ACTION SHE IS IMPLEMENTING IS THE ACTION OF A DICTATOR.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item for the Namdless Ones #1 thank you

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  • @enuff

    The conversation needs to move to waste management. Discussing garbage trucks is an operational matter. We need to attack how to change attitude to the environment and how we treat with waste to energy.

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  • David

    Please see if you can source the Sandals contracts, as they were laid in the House.

    MINUTES

    The Minutes of the meetings of Friday, 26th October, 2018 and Tuesday, 6th November, 2018 were taken as read and were confirmed on the motion of Hon. E. G. Hinkson seconded by Hon. J. A. King.

    ANNOUNCEMENTS BY HIS HONOUR THE SPEAKER

    Mr. Speaker recognised the presence of Mrs. Janet Douglas, the British High Commissioner to Barbados, Mr. Craig Fulton, Deputy High Commissioner, Mr. Edward Munn, Head of Political and Communications Team and Mrs. Gilly Metzgen, Political Officer.

    PAPERS

    Hon. E. G. Hinkson by command laid the following:-

    Loan Contract No. 4656/OC-BA Between the Government of Barbados and the Inter-American
    Development Bank – Macroeconomic Emergency Programme to Protect Economic and Social
    Progress, November 18, 2018.
    The Government of Barbados and Sandals Resorts International 2000 Limited – Investment
    Incentives Agreement Dated as of 25th October, 2013.
    The Government of Barbados and Sandals Resorts International 2000 Limited and Luxe B.B. Property Holdings Limited and Beaches Management (Barbados) Limited – Investment
    Incentives Agreement Dated as of 31st July, 2014.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    This blog submission “appeared” and then disappeared on this Orfox browser si de ole man will post it again for the Nameless OnesYou fail to understand what a campaign to Rout a Dictatorship involves.

    And you fail to understand what is being “fought against”.

    De ole man shall explain with an example of what THE CAMPAIGN WILL BE.

    The Person who has been chosen to run against Mia Mottley in St Michael NE HAS BEEN CHOSEN TO LOSE THEIR SEAT

    BUT WIN A GOVERNMENT!!!

    Do you understand that?

    Here de ole man is 4 years and 4 months out telling you Campaign Strategy.

    Why?

    Because you need to understand how to lose skirmishes BUT win wars.

    I will tell BISHOP REVEREND PASTOR JOSEPH ATHERLEY WHAT HE HAS TO DO.

    He has to announce that HE WILL run against MIA AMOR MOTTLEY IN 2023!!!

    And like Fantasia’s song he expects to lose to win

    HE EXPECTS TO LOSE A SEAT TO WIN BACK THE COUNTRY BARBADOS FROM THE DICTATOR MOTTLEY.

    AND ALL HIS CANDIDATES WILL REPEAT THIS MESSAGE!

    SELF SACRIFICE FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF COUNTRY

    You think dat de ole man ONLY TALKING BOUT STOOPID CARTOON MESSAGES? but you and Mugabe ent understand what IS COMING AT WUNNA.

    FOR A THIRD PARTY TO WIN it cannot float a manifesto it must present a portfolio of accomplishments!

    This is what is going to tilt the balance in favour of the Incoming Party THAT PLUS *** as well as DE OLE MAN COUNTER MESSAGE CONCERNING DE 30 TO ZERO WHITEWASH

    heheheheh

    It does not matter what wunna does my man, about the ballot box stuffing causing, we bajans ent going be ruled by no Dictator

    OUT WITH MUGABE!!

    MUGABE BEGONE!!!

    AND EVERY SINGLE ACTION SHE IS IMPLEMENTING IS THE ACTION OF A DICTATOR.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ David February 6, 2019 9:27 AM

    “The conversation needs to move to waste management. Discussing garbage trucks is an operational matter. We need to attack how to change attitude to the environment and how we treat with waste to energy.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Such a serious move and urgent action will not take place until another crisis similar to what occurred with the collapse of the south coast sewerage system.

    The government continues to play a game of Russian roulette while dancing to the music of being foot loose and fancy free with the country’s public sanitation and health.

    The law enforcement authorities could easily find the time and resources to punish a boy for possessing a $10.00 bag of imported adulterated ganga or even a ‘dispossessed senior citizen’ for shoplifting a nail-clipper but cannot find it possible to name and shame the hundreds of church-going hypocritical Bajans aka environmental terrorists who desecrate the streets, pastures and gullies in their own fields and hills of which they like to proudly boast.

    What is needed to end this stupid game and silly dancing is an outbreak of some communicable disease of epidemic proportion which can be clearly linked to poor public hygiene.

    The fast spreading dengue fever and other mosquito-related sicknesses in the region is a clear indication of the growing risks of such an event occurring in Barbados where waste management is seen as not an immediate priority of the government, after the safety and security of the country’s residents.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    Well I guess that daddy is not on duty heheheheh

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  • If there is one thing I have noticed, is the RED HERRINGS….No one wants to comment on the very POOR HR Practices and Departments in GOVERNMENT!!! Can you imagine we have to go to LAST IN FIRST OUT as a result of very POOR HR Practices and Departments in GOVERNMENT and no discussion on how we can change this HORRIBLE situation????

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  • Excellent point, one that straddles both parties while in government. The blogmaster recalls the PM literally begging the Head of the Civil Service to speak on HR matters last year. We give the permanent secretaries too many passes. Senator Caswell has made the point repeatedly that too many acting appointments has compromised the service.

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  • Last in first out is a recycling program political parties in Barbados use to reward their supporters.

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  • Unlike others here who would want to move this conversation from Broken Social Parnernerships/Protocols to collecting garbage and Recycling strategies de ole man going deviate slightly and talk bout Broken Promises.

    More specifically de ole man is going to speak about the Customary Practice of the Mugabe Regime to break any and all of its Covenants, agreements and promises BECAUSE MUGABE DONT GIVE A FLYING FVCK bout promises to any uh wunna

    A fact that Edmund Hinkson is now experiencing at her hands

    Let me see if wunn can stay on track here

    And leh me see which uh wunna going come up with a suggestion through which these sellout unions can ensure that Mugabe stops reneging on her promises

    But then again anybody who can default on paying government bonds on maturity gine do what the fvck dem like

    And not one uh wunna can say one effing word or do nuffing bout um.

    Or so she feels heheheheheh

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  • Every one of these effers should be RH ashamed to show dem face in public.

    Imagine dat dem march all ovah Barbados behind Mugabe and, like the pooch lickers dat dem is, not a feller ent picking dem teets at Mugabe with this matter!

    NO BALLS A’ TALL

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  • Put up billboards.🤣🤣🤣🤣

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  • Here is de New billboards for wunna scvunt heheheheheh

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  • Wunna tink it easy bout here.

    One by one the Unions are realizing that the grass is not greener on the other side – and as Bushie like to put it their ar**s*** e is grass.

    Only paugee mary redman still trying to play a part that things are better.Her side kick Morris get he pick so I don’t know if Redman waiting for hers.

    Sean Spicer the President of the Bdos Union of Teachers is now saying that things are no better under this administration than with Ronald jones.

    According to him “the only change is with the Santia Bradshaw ministry – public relations spin accompanies the brushing aside of their concerns’

    Well,well – who would have thunk it !!!!!

    Spencer charged that under Bradshaw ministry, Security and Occupational Health play second fiddle to economic concerns’.

    The BUT Head said the frequency with which public officers are shifted from one dept to the next makes it difficult to follow up on issues.

    He spoke of having various meetings and discussions with the Permanent Secretary of that Ministry – only to have the P.S. transferred.

    The replacement Permanent Secretary was then also transferred causing a number of govt processes to be pushed back.

    That ain’t sound like a Zoo to wunna.

    Yuh see when yuh have 28 ministers – yuh have to get 28 Permanent Secretaries for these ministries – and as Owen rightly said last week – all Mia is about is ‘witch hunting’ – firing people she think is Dems and replacing them with unsuitable Bees.

    Good luck with them Spencer boy.

    More to come.Stay tuned.

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  • The general secretary Toni Moore quoted in the media confirming that no end date has been agreed for the merger although there is recognition it is an urgent matter in light of government’s plan.

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