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The offence of obstructing a police officer in the execution of his duty is a general intent offence.  The Crown must prove the actus reus which involves:  (i) conduct that constitutes an obstruction (ii) to a peace officer (iii) who was engaged in the execution of his duty at the time.  The mens rea element requires the Crown to prove the obstruction was done wilfully.  In other words, the conduct proscribed is conduct that was intended to obstruct the individual officer in question in the execution of his duty at the time: R v Moore [1979] 1 S.C.R. 195

Understandably, the print media have been consumed in recent days with the ongoing campaigns of the many parties and candidates in the elections scheduled for this Thursday. But I have already mused on this in my two most recent columns and consider it far more prudent this week to focus on another matter of perhaps only slightly less significant concern to the rights of the citizen.

Many would have “steupsed” instinctively when Magistrate, the reverend Graveney Bannister, suggested recently that those who filmed policeman in the execution of their duty should be prosecuted. After all, some might have reasoned, would this not be at least a disproportionate response to a purported exercise of the guaranteed freedom of expression that includes, according to section 20 of the Constitution, “the freedom to communicate ideas and information without interference”?

And while it is recognized that this freedom may be derogated from in the public interests of defence, safety, order, morality or health, it is also stipulated that any such restriction should be reasonably required. This entails that there must be a legitimate aim for the measure, the measure must be suitable to achieve the aim (potentially with a requirement of evidence to show it will have that effect), the measure must be necessary to achieve the aim, that there cannot be any less onerous way of doing it, and the measure must be reasonable, considering the competing interests of different groups at hand. I am not at all certain that a law as suggested by Mr. Bannister will easily pass these tests.

Some counter-reaction to the magisterial suggestion came subsequently with an offer of BDS$1000 and free legal representation from a local attorney to anyone that may prosecuted for such an offence. However, it was the midweek statement from the Commissioner of Police on the issue that is likely to arouse the greatest civic interest on this issue so far.

As the Commissioner rightly noted, there is no crime committed to record an incident involving the police, although to be fair to Bannister, I do not get the impression that he was contending the contrary but rather suggesting that it ought to be an offence. The Commissioner, however, went on to warn, again quite rightly, “But if in so doing, an act resulting in [willful] obstruction of the officer in the execution of his duties occurs, this will result in an offence…”

I do not know if the Commissioner is aware, but the connection between obstructing an officer in the execution of his or her duty and the photographing or video-recording of an incident involving the police is one of the more intriguing global legal issues today, owed substantially to the notoriety of the police treatment of blackish individuals in the US. Moreover, the Commissioner’s words might have, perhaps inadvertently, lent some authority to the earlier suggestion by the learned Magistrate.

Locally, the offence of obstruction is covered by section 62 of the Police Act, Cap 167, which provides for a penalty of $1000 or imprisonment for a period of 12 months on summary conviction, although it also empowers the magistrate, if he or she is of the opinion that the matter is fit for prosecution on indictment, to commit the offender to stand trial in the High Court.

That much is clear, but the jurisprudence, whether from the US or the Europe, does not afford similar certainty. This is, in my view, a consequence of a number of factors surrounding obstruction by this method, including the citizen’s right to freedom of expression; the need for the police to be able to conduct unhindered investigations of crime and arrests of offenders; and the doubtful legitimacy of an expectation of privacy in public spaces. As for the first, while there are some decisions that have stressed the overarching importance of the freedom of expression to the democratic ideal, there are others that have subordinated it to the prevention of crime.

Thus, one judge in Austin, Texas, was of the view that the individual’s right to record incidents that occurred in public was well established- “If a person has the right to assemble in a public place, receive information on a matter of public concern, and make a record of that information for the purpose of disseminating that information, the ability to make photographic or video recording of that information is simply not a new right or a revolutionary expansion of a historical right. Instead, the photographic or video recording of public information is only a more modern and efficient method of exercising a clearly established right.”

And the majority of the Third Circuit Court of Appeals was of like mind in Fields v City of Philadelphia-

“We ask much of our police. They can be our shelter from the storm. Yet officers are public officials carrying out public functions, and the First Amendment requires them to bear bystanders recording their actions. This is vital to promote the access that fosters free discussion of governmental actions, especially when that discussion benefits not only citizens but the officers themselves.”

Hugh Tomlinson QC, writing in the Guardian, in an article entitled “Do we have a fundamental right to film the police in public?” refers to the Metropolitan Police’s statement that “Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel” and recites the words of the US First Circuit Court of Appeals to the following effect- “A citizen’s right to film government officials, including law enforcement officers, in the discharge of their duties in a public space is a basic vital and well-established liberty safeguarded by the First Amendment.”

The position in Europe is apparently less accommodating to the citizen. In Pentikäinen v Finland (2015), the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) merely stated in general terms that the presence of “watchdogs” during the policing of a demonstration is a guarantee that the authorities can be held to account. This has seemingly allowed the jurisdictions to vary in their national approaches. In Spain, the Citizen Security Law 2015 threatens a hefty fine for the unauthorized publication and dissemination of images of the police and in Belgium one video-blogger was fined £300 for filming and uploading two police officers’ response to an incident at a café, which in the court’s view, violated their privacy. Likewise, the lower House of the Dutch parliament recently adopted a motion calling for a change in the law that would result in the prohibition of the publication of recognizable images of police officers.

Whatever will be the response of the local courts to a charge of obstruction of the police by recording the incident of an arrest or other action, given the perceived credibility gap between the word of the officer and that of the citizen, it would be wise for citizens to err on the side of caution. Obstruction of an officer in the execution of his duty is a mixed question of law and fact and while there may be no obstruction if the officer is not in lawful execution of his duty, his sworn assertion that he was in fact being obstructed in his duty is likely to be treated as cogent evidence that he was.


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120 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – Obstructing the Police?”


  1. @Pacha

    You appear to be willing to toss rhyme and reason out the window to be a provocateur.

    There are biases because you say so?

    The reference was made to peer review because as part of the commonwealth decisions will be studied by others.

    Stuart had years to make a move on this matter. He wait 3 Rh days before a general election because he knows it will stokes his base? Classic Machiavellian politics!


  2. Fruendel can do what he wants to do in his own house as it impacts his and his family’s lives, but given his lousy track record on governance in the last 8 years, he has no right making life changing decisions that are already ruining lives, without putting it to the people.

    Couple years ago am sure Jeff said that there was already a process in place to put such important decisions to referendum, so if a tiny government like Antigua and Barbuda are aware and cognizant enough to take that modern approach , why can’t the boastful, shakespeare quoting Fruendel.

    I swear, the damage that Westminster system has done to the weakest minds in the black race is phenomenal and will be the subject of theses for centuries to come.


  3. Jeff

    We accept your guidance on this matter. As usual, your comments are sober.

    And we can’t pretend to know too much about these matters beyond a broad framing

    Last night, the PM said only Guyana and Barbados were members. He is obviously wrong.

    Our twenty something figure was a mere guesstimate of the number of independent Caribbean countries, and others, which may want to join if this court were to be truly Caribbean in nature.


  4. “The judicial system comprises a lower Magistrates court and the Supreme Court, which includes a Court of Appeal and a High Court.”

    The Court of Appeal should be the final court for justice in Barbados.

    The CCJ should be used where cases involve other Caribbean countries.

    If the “The judicial system in Barbados is not functioning properly fix it.

    Now you well educated BU maguffees can write multi paragraph essays refuting what I have written or just ignore it.


  5. Must RH now be in every converstion by Barbadians?
    Since when is this so?


  6. David

    There are biases everywhere. To have a bias is not necessarily a bad thing.

    Bajan courts make judgement everyday in nearly 100% of the matters coming before them.

    What is so provocative by saying, not withstanding the determination by Jeff, that less than 1% of such cases normally to be adjudicated in a final court could also be heard in Barbadian courts.

    This must be one of the most conservative things we’ve ever said.

    ””””””The reference was made to peer review because as part of the commonwealth decisions will be studied by others.”””””’

    You are mixing up ‘peer review’ with the decisions of a final court of appeal. The decisions of a final court of appeal can only be overturned by that court.

    ”””””””””’Stuart has years to make a move on this matter. He wait 3 Rh days before a general election because he knows it will stokes his base? Classic Machiavellian politics!”””””’

    Well, this last statement qualifies as the bias we cited earlier.

    What based could be so stoked? Maybe a base of 20 litigants, lawyers. That seems hardly likely.

    And if that is the extent of his base he should give the keys to Illaro Court to Mottley. That will be pleasing to you.


  7. Your are misunderstanding reference to ‘peer review’ will not labour the point.

    All the blogmaster shared was encapsulated in Jeff’s intervention.

  8. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    The Prime Minister did not cite the instances of disrespect for Barbados by the CCJ. May anyone hazard a guess?

    @ Hants, Pacha, yes of course we can stop litigation at the Court of Appeal, but would not both of you prefer some further oversight, given that our judges are virtually appointed by the Prime Minister of the day?


  9. Jeff

    Sound reasoning. But is that not a matter we can fix. Some may argue that those on the CCJ, their appointments, may also be so influenced.


  10. Prof NEC May 20, 2018 3:01 PM

    Glad to see someone else finds the unnecessary obscenity repulsive. But it seems this is the new Bajan culture.


  11. Pacha…ya will repeat wrong information if you dare to quote anything Fruendel and his gang says….ya obviously did.

    you should ask yourself why a PM and chair for caricom does no know how many islands are using CCJ as their court of last resort…or that other islands are considering joining CCJ……which can be attributed to the slowness in determining anything positive…..well associated with all Caribbean leadership.


  12. Well Well

    You are holding the party line.

    Two, three, four, five members. it’s a small point. The larger point is that the CCJ is not representative of the Caribbean, after 17 years.

    A small point readily conceded.


  13. I don’t see that, is the CCJ not domiciled in the Caribbean?

    not a matter of party line, you want juris that will interpret and apply the law based on what is in front of them and not based on the outcomes of what some basic prime ministers, government ministers and corrupt lawyers want.

    Maybe it’s best you quote me a case where the CCJ was biased in order to convince me…particularly as it relates to what Fruendel is saying…and especially as it relates to any other case they determined in the Caribbean.


  14. @ Jeff,

    I will accept your opinion.

    IMHO this is the kind of case best suited for the CCJ as it involves foreign litigants against Barbados.

    “Arawak Cement Company Limited (ACCL) and its parent company Trinidad Cement Limited (TCL) have filed an application for Special Leave at the Caribbean Court of Justice in order to pursue an Originating Application against the State of Barbados.”


  15. Besides…CCJ can only interpret laws expressly created for Caribbean islands, if you know differently, please share.


  16. @Pacha

    To repeat the point made, ALL the Caricom countries recognize the CCJ in its original jurisdiction.


  17. Glad to see someone else finds the unnecessary obscenity repulsive.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Someone else?

    Wuh If you find it ‘repulsive’ …what the RH you ALWAYS doing on BU….. ?
    ya Kant!!!

    …and if the RH Prof don’t like um..
    He too …can carry his kant….

    There are THOUSANDS of options….
    Seupsssss….

  18. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    De ole man also was seeking some clarification on whether such video as is shown in that blog qualifies under your statement of erring on the side of caution given that it was a video “of an officer in the execution of his duty..”

    @ Piece, The video, as I recall it, does not portray the policeman in the LAWFUL execution of his duty.No apparent attempt is being made to arrest the suspect,


  19. David

    We’ll check that. But to recognize a court in its ‘original jurisdiction’ does not have the same meaning as acceptance as one’s final appellant court.

    Allow Jeff to be the final judge on this one!

  20. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    “Arawak Cement Company Limited (ACCL) and its parent company Trinidad Cement Limited (TCL) have filed an application for Special Leave at the Caribbean Court of Justice in order to pursue an Originating Application against the State of Barbados.”

    Hants, not only is it suited fort the CCJ, but according to the Revised Treaty of Chaguaramas, the CCJ is the only tribunal seized with the authority to determine the matter in its original jurisdiction.

  21. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    Pacha, you are correct!


  22. Just noticed in the Nation paper, DLP Stuart says he’ll withdraw from the CCJ if re-elected, moving closer to a DICTATORSHIP.

    Voter beware.


  23. If the majority population was undecided before about not returning this exgovernment to parliament, that all went out the window with Fruendel’s baseless accusations regarding the CCJ, despite knowing and not caring how ineffective the island’s judiciary has become, because of incompetence and corruption…no one likes dictators and have no reason to tolerate them in this day and age of enlightenment and all the tools available to expose it to the world and have it removed…

    He effectively sabotaged his own campaign and shot himself in the foot…there is nothing he can do to walk that biggest of errors back, not in 4 days.


  24. I repeat ad nauseam Stuart is not known to be a lawyer to represent significant parties in Barbados nor in the Region.I am speaking of lawyers like the late Sir Bree,Sir Louis,Sir Richard,Sir Henry,Elliot,Mia,RalphThorne,Andrew Pilgrim.So when Stuart got in the House and moved a resolution to expunge the criminal record of 1937 rioters and did not know that Owen Arthur had already done that in 1998 it was no surprise to many.Now to want to remove Barbados from the CCJ for reasons unknown other than saying that they are politicians in robes but people are reading Hardstone might get the dirty end of the stick which might bankrupt them when the compensation and costs of 3 years is added up,one can see Staurt is missing the true role of the CCJ.He should have done his homework or sought advice from his courtiers.
    At page 32A in the Sunday Sun today,read the comments of John Beale,a former ambassador to the UN and the OAS,a diplomat appointed by the Dems.Beale went on to list the woes he experienced at the hands of the Stuart administration.Poor management,lack of planning and foresight,indecisiveness,failure to make timely decisions on key issues,the massive decline in the offshore financial services sector,poor conditions of the roads,inefficient transport service,the South Coast Sewage issue,the numerous downgrades,the lack of foreign exchange,the high cost of living,the many poor performing Statutory Corporations,failure to follow up on issues that need urgent and prompt attention,an economy that is not growing when other countries in the Region are showing improvement are among the significant failures noted by this former DLP appointed diplomat.
    Why would any rational thinking voter,support the DLP for a third term.Its suicidal.


  25. I have had enough experience in managing people to know that if a policeman in uniform say to you to move on,don’t wait for him to say it a second time.Failure to obey an officer whether you think his order is stupid or he is being stupid is not a battle you will win because the next step is arrest and your ass in a prison cell for at least 24 hours.Never try to match wits with a police officer outside a court hearing.Never call a police officer stupid even if you think he or his action is.Police,Customs and Immigration are 3 institutions in which a lot of power is given and wielded.Obey them or suffer the consequences even if temporary.

  26. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Mr Blogmaster thanks for the link…a readup on the CCJ is useful in context of this discussion.

    Generally however I find it amusing that the PM laments about politicians in judges robes as I am unaware of many (any really) jurisdictions where a judges political inflections are not instrumental in his/her assignments to the appellate bench.

    I would be ticked off too if judges who were my peers had the temerity to tell me repeatedly that my legal system is piss poor on judicial decisions and general sloth of process.

    But in his position I would have tried desperately to improve the process not attempt to silence the messenger.


  27. One day 2 accused appeared before magistrate Graveney Bannister in respect of an infringement of the law while in the Nursery Drive Van Stand.I think they were ‘sent up’ on remand for 28 days.The magistrate had a few choice comments to make in respect of those capturing the events ‘live’ on social media.
    A few days later at a political event where the Miinister of Transport is opening the Van Stand Terminus building in time for a photo op to bolster his party’s chances at getting support in the upcoming election( he was heard praising the ZR drivers and conductors as the best behaved and cleanest in the world,and the hustler vendors as the most organized and law abiding citizens in Barbados)at this event a clerk in holy orders bedecked in a black cassock and dog collar was seen walking and sprinkling holy water.That same person was the magistrate Graveney Bannister,seen enthusiastically carrying out his priestly duties and at the same time pressing as much flesh as the Minister himself.No wonder Freundel Stuart can speak so glibly about politicians in robes.


  28. I believe that the case at the CCJ that stung the Gov’t the most was the Myrie case, it pitted the word of a Minister against a person that officers of the Gov’t alleged was of loose moral character and tested the Gov’ts ability to keep persons they considered undesirable out of the country. It also stirred up public sentiment in Jamaica against the Barbados Gov’t and Bajans in particular. Of particular note the defense was in the hands of two QC’s, Gollop and Forde.

    Freundel should desist from making important policy decisions in a cavalier fashion, I also recalled the Republic announcement at a branch meeting. If the Gov’t felt this strongly about the CCJ it should have been in its Manifesto


  29. You are over-analysing the situation Sergeant.
    The man simply has no clue…. A simple idiot.l

    When someone can defer to Stinkliar for eight years and for 22 downgrades …it is not a case of making hasty decisions.
    You have a brass bowl idiot.

    The ‘republic talk’, like the ‘CCJ withdrawal’ is simple ‘bravado’… otherwise known as shiite talk.


  30. Couldn’t agree with PM Stuart more on the exit from CCJ. The judgement in the Myrie case left many puzzled. The urgent sitting of CCJ on a Sunday to “order” Barbados to allow foreigners to vote in national elections puzzled even more. Most shocking was the reduction of sentence on a Guyanese for a heinous crime which led to the most cruel death of a Russian girl. Additionally the CCJ lacks work only two cases were heard all year. The taxpayers of Barbados deserve better for their money.


  31. aka waiting

  32. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    Neither Fruendel nor his nuisance fellow politicians nor fraternity parasites, nor those political appointees they select to run the judiciary into the ground have any plans or intention to fix the present useless state of their court system, they all much prefer to attempt to corrupt the integrity of the CCJ instead …for their own criminal purposes, which must never be allowed to happen.

    It is a disgrace that they ignore the decisions of their own appellate court and chief justice when he tries to apply the law fairly….it highlights the fact that he tries to make changes but the government itself who appointed him to the post make sure his attempts are resisted ….resistance he has had to work against since being returned to the island, a monumental task given the mentalities of ministers and lawyers steeped in everything that is wrong, unfair and unjust..

    Outside of countries well known for being corrupt…I have never, ever heard of leaders who believe that being corrupt is normal….and should spread like a cancer to suit their narrow, backward agendas, circumventing the course of justice and even constitutional laws to do so, even if it means destroying lives.

    No one would talk about the island in tones that suggest things are not right, if they were.

    The jurists on the CCJ bench understand the destructive forces of corruption and what can result from not allowing justice to take its course swiftly and decisively. … the leaders in Barbados much prefer pretend that such practices of ignoring laws and procedures are quite normal and the only way they know how to do business….and still believe to themselves that people outside of the island are not aware of the rot they all cultivated and allowed to grow and destroy everything in its path for decades.

  33. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    If any government was genuine about fixing the destruction in the supreme court and judiciary, the first effort they would make is stop the political appointments of judges and magistrates by PMs government ministers.

    Political appointments = government interference and influence.

    Judges and magistrates should be ELECTED by the PEOPLE who pay their salaries and not by governments to be used as tools and weapons against the citizens.

  34. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Dunks Gripe May 20, 2018 10:50 PM
    “Couldn’t agree with PM Stuart more on the exit from CCJ. The judgement in the Myrie case left many puzzled. The urgent sitting of CCJ on a Sunday to “order” Barbados to allow foreigners to vote in national elections puzzled even more. Most shocking was the reduction of sentence on a Guyanese for a heinous crime which led to the most cruel death of a Russian girl. Additionally the CCJ lacks work only two cases were heard all year. The taxpayers of Barbados deserve better for their money.”

    But wait, “waiting”, if your PM and his party of deceivers and liars feel so strong about the CCJ why was the proposal to leave the CCJ not put in your party’s ‘last minute’ edited manifesto?

    If you feel so strongly about not returning to the Privy council as the court of final appeal for Bajans why did Lord King Fumble QC not put in his party’s manifesto the intention of his party to move completely away from the British monarchy to a full republic status with the local Court Appeal the final arbiter of ‘blind’ Justice in Barbados already burdened with justice a system that even the Sanhedrin in the time of Jesus would have founds woefully reprehensible.


  35. BLP yard fowl and pimp David another reason why we should exit CCJ is after all this time not one Barbadian judge has been appointed to the panel. The vile fifth column lives on BU working overtime to destroy this country.

  36. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    Miller….they are all frauds and corrupt…because the CCJ would stand for none of it, fraudulent Fruendolittle and his gang will seek to demonize the CCJ in the minds of the clueless in the society, but it backfired…lol

    The institution of the judiciary is too damaged and decayed, too many lawyers are too dishonest and destructive for too long, for the population not to notice.

    This one blew up on them even bigger than the nigerian billionaire cockup….hope to see them in front of judges soon, with all those lawsuits being filed.

    Wont it be a thing to see them in front of the CCJ..getting a lesson on how fair justice is being applied from that bench.


  37. Dunks Gripe May 21, 2018 8:03 AM

    BLP yard fowl and pimp David another reason why we should exit CCJ is after all this time not one Barbadian judge has been appointed to the panel…(Quote)

    Is it because they are not considered competent enough?

  38. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    Had it not been for the corruption in the judiciary…a bajan judge would have long be enappointed to the CCJ…..blame yourselves, yall too corrupt.

    The bar association and disciplianary committee have been national disgraces for decades, no one wants toxic corruption and dishonesty around them, ya want to be on the CCJ bench…clean up ya nastiness first.

    Ya lawyers Haynes, Gollop and Smith went and embarrassed the island in front of the CCJ numerous times, forgetting they were not in the local courts destroying the process as they are accustomed.

    Serves yall right.

  39. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    The worse of it is, with all the big boasts of being the best educated and holding the most paper degrees they all so love to spout, not one of them want to face reality and admit what they have done and are still doing, none want to take responsibility, as is the norm on the island.

    Well this one is theirs and they have no choice but to own it, the judiciary did not destroy itself nor did it give itself such a notoriously shameful reputation.

  40. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Dunks Gripe May 21, 2018 8:03 AM
    “BLP yard fowl and pimp David another reason why we should exit CCJ is after all this time not one Barbadian judge has been appointed to the panel. The vile fifth column lives on BU working overtime to destroy this country.”

    No, “No waiting”, the country is being destroyed not by BU but by the continuing presence of sewage on the South coast; the breadbasket for Bajan foreign exchange and significant commercial activity.

    Why don’t you do like Sealy & Boyce and prove BU wrong but swimming in the shit on the South coast the same way you exercise in the cesspool on George Street?


  41. The sensible attorneys on the island know what a backward, destructive idea Fruendel spewed to the public, coming from a PM and a lawyer, it only compounds the reason why he is not suitable to be anyone’s leader.

    Fruendel is too idle…the devil finds destructive work for idle hands and minds.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2018/05/21/leaving-the-ccj-would-be-a-backward-step-local-attorneys-say/

    “Two established members of the local legal fraternity have slammed Prime Minister Freundel Stuart’s plan to break from the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) as Barbados’ final appellate court.
    According to Andrew Pilgrim, QC, this move is “poorly thought out and a retrograde step,” which would mean that justice for the average Barbadians would rest solely in the hands of Judges appointed by the Prime Minister. He also noted that this could have serious implications for transparency of recourse for the average citizen against the Government.

    “When one looks at the high quality decisions and the access to justice that has resulted from the CCJ, I would regard the comments as unfortunate and a retrograde step. I can’t imagine that the Prime Minister soberly thought that this was something that would be appropriate to do. I think this is something that just happens during political meetings so that they can get people to clap and jump up,” Pilgrim said.

    “It would mean that people of Barbados would have no real appellate court and this is vital especially in a country where judges are appointed by the Prime Minister. However, as I said before, I believe it is just talk because there is no way this could have been soberly thought out.”


  42. If perchance Stuart has his way with the CCJ,we can say goodbye to foreign investment.No investor will risk litigation in a court of political appointees bereft of balanced thinking.They will all pull up stakes and go where they can be guaranteed due process and a fair hearing.Ask any lawyer what Elyut did to the reputation of the high court.A man who couldn’t leave his prosecuting skills at the DPP office.

  43. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Well, Well May 21, 2018 8:58 AM

    So what do you expect from an ugly donkey for a primate inter Parris who has condemned MAM for practising law without an LEC?

    How could this ugly fool demonstrate so passionately his objection to a regional judicial organization like the CCJ but could still berate a person for not having the same regional certification which reinforces the relevance and credence for the same CCJ?

    Doesn’t the doublespeak bleeding jackass understand that the title Queen’s Counsel (QC) which is worn like a badge of subservience to the British monarch is mainly worn, like silk, by those UK trained lawyers who are not LEC graduates?

    Why insist on having an LEC when a simple award of a QC would suffice?

    Shouldn’t the title LEC, SC (Senior Counsel) be more suitable a title for the region with no need to go to the British Privy Council?

    Fumbling Stuart should be attacking his fellow primates for their failure to get their own people to support applications to join the CCJ; not the institutions that protect the ordinary citizens from the ‘dictatorial’ excesses demonstrated by those in power.


  44. @Gabriel

    A point to ponder. Some like Bushie will respond we have to back our skills to negotiate and carve a path to the selected destination. The late Amused in our many conversations would argue your point. A solid judiciary is required to support a vibrant international sector. We are therefore debating the need for an efficient court side to dispense justice side by side with a perception of the foreign investor as to whether a local jurisdiction would have the wherewithal to deliver quality decisions to stand an international test.


  45. That is the totally destroyed, colonized mind of the house negro, the inability to think rationally..

    .the parliament was up until recently..infested with them.

    Hopefully after the election, the voters would have managed to keep most if not all of them out of parliament, they are a disgrace and disrespect to the citizens and island..


  46. Miller
    Once again there is the proof that that simple word CONFIDENCE is absent from Stuart’s thinking.With 23 downgrades of the Barbados economy during his party’s stewardship,he is offering to have a court system where an outcome is possibly affected not by the evidence but by the colour of the claimant’s shirt.


  47. David
    I strongly believe that this is the reason many of our Regional States including Trinidad and Jamaica are hesitant to take the important step to relinquish the British Privy Council as their final court.Existing investors and the threat to influence future prospects have clearly made their whispers directed to the top.


  48. The privy council will soon have no choice but to kick all those Caribbean islands still clinging on them to the curb anyway, the CCJ is quite capable of handling cases within the Caricom Community…


  49. @Jeff

    Is it an accurate perspective to take that justices at the CCJ must be competitive to interpret laws outside of the Commonwealth given the make up of Caricom? If yes this puts Bajan applicants with a narrow bio at a disadvantage?

  50. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    David Mr Blogmaster you and Gabriel are operating a political red herring with this grand claim sans any solid basis to question “…whether a local jurisdiction would have the wherewithal to deliver quality decisions to stand an international test.”

    As a layman this is ridiculous to me re business affairs. Whenever international business contracts are being done the parties generally have the right to determine where and how any disputes will be handled.

    Can you therefore please explain why such obligations could not stipulate that the Privvy council or any duly constituted international body (like ICC Arbitration) be the court of last resort??

    This is red herring argument: sweet to taste when nicely roasted but as one blogger is won’t to say, not really suited for the meal in question.🙃

    A properly constituted CCJ can function well and still provide adequate comfort for international businessmen to be relaxed that their disputes and business interests can be adjudicated “to stand an international test” as they so choose.

    There are (valid, if one can call them that) reasons the island governments are playing this game but this ploy is certainly not as integral as they would have us believe.

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