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Jeff Cumberbatch – Chairman of the FTC and Deputy Dean, Law Faculty, UWI, Cave Hill

One aspect of current popular discussion in Barbados focuses on the moral and political legitimacy of the Prime Ministerโ€™s stated intention to have his administration go down to the figurative wire with reference to its tenure in that role. By this, I am given to understand that he proposes to extend the life of his government for as long as may be constitutionally permissible. Some, anxiously anticipating a change of administration, have sought to assert that this would be a clear breach of convention, although there is a patent absence of clarity in identifying the precise convention that he is alleged to be infringing thereby.

To be sure, a convention is built on a long accepted practice, but it is difficult to deduce any inveterate practice with respect to the calling of a general election in Barbados other than that these are usually called when the Prime Minister of the day decides that the time is optimal for his partyโ€™s chances thereat.

It appears to be popularly assumed that the date of a general election is always exclusively within the purview of the Prime Ministerโ€™s discretion. However, it is submitted that a close reading of the Constitutional text might arguably suggest otherwise.

According to section 61(3) of the supreme law:

Subject to the provisions of subsection (4), Parliament, unless sooner dissolved, shall continue for five years from the date of its first sitting after any dissolution and shall then stand dissolved.

This provision clearly recognizes that Parliament may be dissolved before its otherwise automatic demise.

Ordinarily, the Prime Minister advising or instructing the Governor General to dissolve Parliament would effect this prior dissolution. This scenario is the subject of section 61(2):

The Governor-General, acting in accordance with the advice of the Prime Minister, may at any time by proclamation dissolve Parliament โ€ฆ

It is also usual, though perhaps not conventional in the strict sense, for the Prime Minister on such an occasion further to instruct the Governor General to issue writs for a general election. However, there is no provision that expressly requires him to do so. Pertinent in this regard is section 62(1) that reads as follows-

After every dissolution of Parliament, the Governor-General shall issue writs for a general election of members of the House of Assembly returnable within ninety days from the dissolution.

A plain reading of this subsection and its juxtaposition to the previous subsection would suggest at first blush that, on a dissolution of Parliament, the Governor General has an absolute discretion as to the issuance and returnability of the writs for the elections in the thirty constituencies.

However, the Constitution also provides at section 32(1) that ordinarily the Governor General โ€œshall act in accordance with the advice of the Cabinet or a Minister acting under the general authority of the Cabinet in the exercise of his functions other than in certain specified instances including those where he or she is directed to exercise any function โ€œon or in accordance with the recommendations or advice of, or with the concurrence of, or after consultation with, any person or authority other than the Cabinetโ€; and in respect of โ€œany function which is expressed (in whatever terms) to be exercisable by him in his discretionโ€.

In addition, the next subsection [32 (2)] immediately and expressly excludes certain functions from the application of section 32(1):

Subsection (1) shall not apply to the functions conferred upon the Governor-General by the following provisions of this Constitution, that is to say-

(a)section 66(2) (which requires the Governor-General to revoke the appointment of the Prime Minister in certain circumstances);

(b) the proviso to section 61(2)which requires the Governor General to dissolve Parliament in certain circumstances);and

(c) section 84(4) (which requires the Governor-General to remove a Judge from office in certain circumstances).

In none of these specified cases, therefore, nor in those that are more generally stated in section 32 (1), would the Governor General be obliged to act in accordance with the advice of a member of the Cabinet as subsection (1) mandates.

The questions therefore beg asking, did the framers of the Constitution intend that a Prime Minister should be the sole authority in respect of the timing of elections in all circumstances of dissolution? Or does that exclusivity apply only in a case where Parliament has been dissolved by Prime Ministerial fiat? And does that imply therefore that if the House automatically dissolves itself through the effluxion of time, as in the current case, that the Governor General then assumes sole discretion as to the election date?

Of course, the answers to these questions turn on the construction of the various Constitutional provisions. Patently, the function under current consideration in section 62 (1) is not among those expressly excluded from the purview of section 32 (1) by section 32 (2), so that if one seeks to argue that the Governor General is to have any discretion at all in the matter, this must be premised on the more general exclusions in section 32 (1) itself. These are first, โ€œwhere he is directed to exercise any function on or in accordance with the recommendations or advice of, or with the concurrence of, or after consultation with, any person or authority other than the Cabinetโ€, and, second, โ€œany function that is expressed (in whatever terms) to be exercisable by him in his discretionโ€.

Plainly, the first category is not relevant here, but the second does demand our further inquiry. While it is easily discernible that any function clearly expressed to be exercisable by the Governor General in his or her discretion would be covered by this provision, it also purports to include beyond this any other form of expression of that intention [โ€œin whatever termsโ€].

The issue then arises; is a provision cast in the following terms โ€œAfter every dissolution of Parliament, the Governor-General shall issue writs for a general election of members of the House of Assembly returnable within ninety days from the dissolutionโ€ correctly to be regarded as a form of expression in whatever terms that confers a function exercisable by the Governor General in his or her discretion? If it may be so regarded, then the deduction is that the Governor General has the discretion as to the date of the general election once Parliament stands dissolved by effluxion of time, though perhaps not where this has been effected by prime ministerial fiat. The distinction is indeed a nice one.

It is conceded that this interpretation has never been observed or even suggested in our fifty plus years of written constitutional governance. Nor is it likely to find favour with any political operatives now. For one, it flies in the face of the assumed convention of unlimited prime ministerial discretion in most matters, thereby disrupting accepted practice; for another, it has not yet been to my best knowledge the subject matter of any judicial determination and is thus likely to be treated as mere academic opinion and, third, it is likely to result at the current time in partisan division, based not on the validity of an alternative construction of the Constitutional text but on precisely that; partisan consideration.

Our regrettable lack of clarity in this matter is to be contrasted with the drafting precision of the provision in section 69 (1) of the Trinidad & Tobago 1976 Republican Constitution โ€“โ€œA general election of members of the House of Representatives shall be held at such time within three months after every dissolution of Parliament as the President, acting in accordance with the advice of the Prime Minister, shall appoint.โ€ [Added emphasis].


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97 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – Whose Call is it, Anyway?”

  1. Dentistry Whisperer (M. Pharm. D) LinkedIN Avatar
    Dentistry Whisperer (M. Pharm. D) LinkedIN

    Jeff, Germany, India and England have had female PM’s. Why is Barbados mimicking Jamaica?Haynes Darlington (M. Pharm. D)

  2. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Jeff

    What happens if the Prime Minister refuses to advise the Governor-General to call an election within the ninety-day period?

    To me, it would seem that the PM lost the right to name a date when he allowed Parliament to automatically dissolve.


  3. As if a country stuck in an economic quagmire needs a prime minister who wants to create history. To what end Mr. prime minister? Also the question is posed to the Cabinet.

    What is the role of the Opposition in the farce being played out? Several QCs are be found in the BLP stable.

  4. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Mr Blogmaster, the learned Dean notes that “[he is] given to understand that [ the PM proposes to extend the life of his government for as long as may be constitutionally permissible” …. He essentially asks the question: so what has the PM done that is so egregious or illegal?

    Is it not fair then to say that unless the PM uses his current ‘unfettered’ power to declare martial law thereby initiating take over by force of arms there is nothing to be done! What really can BLP QCs do at this juncture other than palaver endlessly… No laws have been broken!

    You have boldly chronicled the many instances where the Stuart govt have obliterated traditions and principals which many considered sacrosanct to our supposed ordered way of life, so what more has he done but squashed one more.

    This too will pass…and this too is ample further evidence of his hubris and the govt disdain towards its citizens…this should be the final purposeful argument to X out their arrogance and venality!

    That’s what the QCs and all others should be working towards.


  5. Can you imagine that not a SINGLE one of those RH members of parliament (right honourable?) has had the decency to stand up meaningfully in the public interest (like Comissiong does)…. in the face of such a wicked onslaught on Bajan values…

    Every last one of them must be completely asinine and totally disconnected from their public responsibilities ….
    Either that….
    ..or they must be possessed by forces beyond our comprehension.

    See if wunna can work out then …why they built the monument with the pitchfork
    …and then two of them went and got baptised in shiite on the South Coast…..

  6. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Oops…principles are obliterated; whereas principals are just obliged to keep their mouths shuttered!


  7. @Dee Word

    What happened when the people protested and this government led by Stuart pulled back from the solid waste tax as one example? If the PM has sought to impinge on the conventions and niceties of the system of government should we the people ignore?


  8. Dribbler …You could really keep your lukewarm posts to yourself …

    No laws were being broken during slavery either boss…
    …and that too passed …. after four hundred years
    – and even so, people like you are still shackled in the mind with the attitude that ‘this too will pass’
    …the attitude of a vassal
    …of a vessel of brazen construct

    REAL people are able to think BEYOND what the shiite laws happen to say at any particular time….
    REAL people understand their intrinsic VALUE – and DO NOT TOLERATE shiite….

    BUT…
    Brass bowls can have shiite actually flowing in their streets for YEARS..
    while they wait peacefully for ‘this too to pass….’

    Boss – Stay in Canada and drink the Toronto waters….
    Please.

  9. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Jeff C: The BU legal expert and the guru of Constitutional matters except when it comes to his LEC holding student Hal Gollop (QC):

    โ€œThe issue then arises; is a provision cast in the following terms โ€œAfter every dissolution of Parliament, the Governor-General shall issue writs for a general election of members of the House of Assembly returnable within ninety days from the dissolutionโ€ correctly to be regarded as a form of expression in whatever terms that confers a function exercisable by the Governor General in his or her discretion? If it may be so regarded, then the deduction is that the Governor General has the discretion as to the date of the general election once Parliament stands dissolved by effluxion of time, though perhaps not where this has been effected by prime ministerial fiat. The distinction is indeed a nice one.โ€

    The โ€˜mostโ€™ reasonable interpretation of this provision for the layman is that general elections to the HoA (Her Majesty’s yard) must be called and writs expressing the will of the people as to whom should be their representatives in that โ€˜yardโ€™ in accordance with the spirit of the Magna Carta must be returned to Her Majesty’s local representative within 90 calendar days from the date the last Parliament stood โ€˜dissolvedโ€™, that is, 6th March 2018.

    Any breach of that window of time must be subject to the exigencies referred to in Sections 61, subsection (4) and (5) all designed to protect the existence and integrity of the โ€˜Stateโ€™.

    So Bajans you can expect elections to be called and results returned to Her Majestyโ€™s representative any time between tomorrow and any date in the first week of June 2018; unless Barbados declares war against the rats of the South coast and invokes a state of emergency due to the lack of foreign exchange to feed them into a lazy state of obesity.

    But then again history can be indeed be made (again) if your โ€˜estrangedโ€™ primus inter pares finds himself in a real life-threatening emergency on his last taste of junkets while up a shopping creek with no medical paddle in sight.

    Now the question to you Dear Jeff is what does Her Majestyโ€™s loyal Opposition have to play in all of this local copycat Westminster fiasco initially designed in accordance with the terms of a gentlemenโ€™s agreement between the Crown and its subjects but now being โ€˜abusedโ€™ by third world tin pot dictator in the making whose role model has now be refashioned from the likes of a kingmaker in JCT to one of President Kabila of the DRC in the making?

    Since there is no Guy Fawkes hero to emulate what about whispering in Her Majestyโ€™s ears through a missive from the people in Opposition that โ€˜Sheโ€™ needs to clean up her backyard in Barbados before another Moyne Commission is required?

  10. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    BushTea, rather typical response from you isn’t it…hyperbolic (slavery as an institution compared to a legal wrangle on Parliament’s dissolution) and irrelevance on where one may be domiciled (Bdos derives as much and in some cases more benefits from external forces.

    Deal with the facts bro.

    @Mr Blogmaster, I do not suggest the people ignore any niceties or conventions! There is an overpowering wonder about free elections and the ability of citizens to deal with recalcitrant, elected officials…VOTE THEM OUT!

    That sir is the ULTIMATE protest.

    Why are we making Stuart into some evil genius with his dipsidoodle dissolution dance. Why? He is acting within the law but outside what we have come to expect since we gained independence…. but seriously do we need THIS act to validate our verdict of the DLPs tenure??

    Talk forcibly with an X… that Mr Blogmaster is one protest from which he would need not pull back !

    I hear your arguments …but just don’t see any further palaver needed than a forcible judgement to demand dismissal…


  11. Is a functioning democracy defined by the opportunity of the people to place an x on a ballot?

  12. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    Jeff

    What happens if the Prime Minister refuses to advise the Governor-General to call an election within the ninety-day period?

    To me, it would seem that the PM lost the right to name a date when he allowed Parliament to automatically dissolve.

    @ Caswell, To answer your first question, we would be firmly in a constitutional crisis. As for your opinion, my suggested interpretation the Constitutional text certainly supports this.

  13. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    What is the role of the Opposition in the farce being played out? Several QCs are be found in the BLP stable.

    @ David, once Parliament is dissolved, the Opposition has no greater constitutional role than that of any other group of citizens. Perhaps more politically persuasive yes, but constitutionally, no, I would think.

  14. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Mr Blogmaster..re “Is a functioning democracy defined by the opportunity of the people to place an x on a ballot?”…Ahem, YES.

    As succinct as your query…as blunt in response.

    Stuart has NOT disrupted that right. To all intents ours is still a functioning democracy. Very unlike the supposed free elections in Russia or Turkey upcoming or those in Zimbabwe and Venezuela.

  15. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    Now the question to you Dear Jeff is what does Her Majestyโ€™s loyal Opposition have to play in all of this local copycat Westminster fiasco initially designed in accordance with the terms of a gentlemenโ€™s agreement between the Crown and its subjects…?

    @ Miller, as above to David. Note that Her Majesty has no authority, except perhaps theoretical, in Barbados


  16. @Jeff

    The comment was meant to highlight the legal talent at the disposal of the BLP (Opposition) to offer a challenge if there is an opportunity. Based on your piece the PM is on good legal grazing?


  17. Mr Blogmaster..re โ€œIs a functioning democracy defined by the opportunity of the people to place an x on a ballot?โ€โ€ฆAhem, YES.

    On this let us firmly disagree.

  18. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    The comment was meant to highlight the legal talent at the disposal of the BLP (Opposition) to offer a challenge if there is an opportunity. Based on your piece the PM is on good legal grazing?

    David, my piece was mainly exploratory. I am convinced it is right in law, but doubt that it will fly elsewhere in light of its seismic implications for the current context…

  19. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    Stuart is misusing the 90 day extension that exists solely for powers of emergency…it is called abusing the system.

    There is no legal reason to reconvene or extend a parliament that has now completely expired.

  20. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Nothing wrong with disagreement, Mr Blogmaster…clarity and transparency is always the goal.

    Without deep delves into pol science, please advise what else defines a functioning democracy at its MOST fundamental other than free and fair elections held at well ordered intervals??

    The problem of course with free will is that citizens stupidly abrogate their right and then vehemently complain when their freely done acts are used by smarter people to benefit those smartfolks designs.

    Exhibit A: CA/Facebook folly- people freely exhibit daily every freaking facet of their life on a social platform and lordie lord then get totally discombobulated when smart wags take those insights and shepherd them to spend their money, choose life partners and select certain candidates!

    Those actikns by the smart folks Mr Blogmaster do not take away the citizenn’s free will…simply exposes our naitivity (stupidity).

    If we are concerned deeply then do NOT broadcast our every like and dislike so openly…Delete all social maybe!


  21. This is not a function of law but: Either hurry up and pee or get off of the potty. There are those who under the current circumstances may even use stronger language but the fact of the matter is that Mr Stuart and his merry band of bandit have passed their useless shelf life. Why are we discussing whether this turn of events is within the letter of the law or not? For heavens sake, just get up and go!

  22. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    Why are we discussing whether this turn of events is within the letter of the law or not? For heavens sake, just get up and go!

    @FP, If not law, then what? Anarchy?


  23. @Bush Tea
    “REAL people are able to think BEYOND what the shiite laws happen to say at any particular time”.

    It surprises me that you continue with this line. Don’t you know that our society is one of mimicry?

    Perhaps I do not use this phrase in the same sense as VS Naipaul as I have not read any of his efforts, but the whole archipelago consists of nothing more than mimic men.

    Some play the game well, some will even convince you that they are originals. But we all lack the spark that move us to action and to set our own course.

    Know and accept this fact and you will no longer have an expectation.


  24. ^any


  25. David March 25, 2018 at 9:31 AM #

    โ€œIs a functioning democracy defined by the opportunity of the people to place an x on a ballot?โ€

    David BU

    Are you defining โ€œa functioning democracyโ€ only within the context of a political system where citizens choose a governing administration through free and fair elections?

    In my opinion, โ€œa functioning democracyโ€ goes beyond recognizing the right of the electorate to choose which political party represents them in parliamentโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ and by extension regionally and internationally.

    The electorate should also have the right to observe how the elected conducts the business of government and criticize them accordinglyโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ.. and hold them accountable for their policies and conduct during their tenure in office. Additionally, the electorate has an obligation to express their interests and opinions.

    If we accept these facts, then the actions of any governing administration should be based on the consent of the electorate.

    Through the election process, โ€œpowerโ€ temporarily passes from the electorate to the elected. Therefore, the elected should RECOGNIZE the electorate as the ULTIMATE political AUTHORITY. But this is accepted ONLY at election time when politicians, in soliciting votes, remind the electorate that those seeking to be elected โ€œare servants of the people.โ€

    If under circumstances where the electorate is eager to go to the polls, and a prime minster decides for his own self interest, to undermine the rights of โ€œthe ultimate political authority,โ€ by holding fast to a legal technicality, which prolongs his tenure in officeโ€ฆโ€ฆ..

    โ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ.then we really donโ€™t know the true definition of a democracy.


  26. @Jeff โ€œ@FP, If not law, then what? Anarchy?โ€
    No, not anarchy Professor but โ€œJust get up and goโ€! Have we reached the stage where we need a law to tell us what is morally right or wrong or when we have overstayed our welcome ? Did our mother not teach us what is right from wrong? Do we need a law to tell us that if we find a wallet filled with money that it does not belong to us? Do we need a law to tell us that if our every attempt at solving a problem over period of eight years results in reduced returns then maybe, just maybe a law is not needed make us get up and go?

    A wise man once said that if you arenโ€™t part of the solution then maybe youโ€™re part of the problem. What is your informed opinion Jeff? Will this administration be part of the solution or part of the problem by remaining until the โ€œlawโ€ makes them get up and go?


  27. Stuart sees his fees and perks are due and payable for 63 months after March 6th 2013.Its as simple as that.The Chamber of Commerce or the Private Sector Association or The QC’s of the BLP or the governors of the Bar Association should challenge this non sensical delaying tactic in the Courts as is done in the USA where all these ambiguous matters are brought for clarification once and for all.Barbados is losing investment opportunities because of this foolishness.I think Caswell has a point.


  28. @Artax

    The question was answered by former PS Peter Laurie on todayโ€™s Brasstacks show. Are you listening?


  29. @Gabriel

    The downside to the BLP personnel fighting this matter in the court is the potential political fallout on the eve of an election.


  30. The majority of you have been calling PM Stuart “do little” for years.

    Why do you now expect him to wake up from his long slumber and ” do something “?

    Unless you have a way to force him to set an election date why not switch your focus to

    CRANE BEACH and COVERLY ?


  31. @ Jeff
    FP, If not law, then what? Anarchy?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Boss, anarchy is not the antithesis of ‘law’.
    In fact, our Pacha has been a constant proponent of anarchism as a social construct now for some time on BU….

    When ‘Law’ is decided by RH jokers (right honourable) – as is almost exclusively the case now in Barbados, then anarchy in fact becomes the wise man’s only sensible option.

    When a government can pass a law effectively making it more profitable for someone to dump litter into a cart road or gully – rather than take it to the proper dump….
    When a government can come up with the ridiculous shiite tax on Bajans…

    …What else is needed to tell us that anarchy is URGENTLY needed?

    @ Dribbler
    What other response did you expect from Bushie…?
    It comes from association with entities who are the same yesterday, today and forever….
    LOL
    ha ha ha
    But you no doubt got the point….


  32. We have been contending for years that none of these countries are democracies.

    That we have been fooled for centuries by elected dictatorships pretending to be democracies

    The results of the next elections will only serve to reinforce the impulse of the dictatorship of Fruendel Stuart – in the person of Mia Mottley.

    That this system cannot compel a PM to do the right thing long after the people should have had a say can only lead to the unavoidable conclusion that the citizens of Barbados are no less bent towards dictatorship than a cowardice Fruendel Stuart.

  33. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    I think the ignorant word is saying that BARRING FUMBLES INVOKING THE EMERGENCY POWERPLAY Bajans are saddled with one option which is to wait THEN VOTE DE DLP TO RH OUT!!!

    De ole man believes that Fumbles is aware that his tenure is done and is solely ensuring his income during his retirement AND BELIEVE ME HE IS PERMANENTLY RETIRED FROM ANY LEGAL CAREER POST HIS SHAMEFUL PRIMEMINISTERSHIP

    @ The Luminary Mr Jeff Cumberbatch

    Would a normal citizen have a locus to bring a constitutional challenge against this aspect of these election issues?

    Would the matter be heard?

    By whom?

    Do you believe that if it were heard the outcome would be synchronous with a more clear message? rather interpretation that what currently exists?

    Since only you and David Come Sing a Song are lawyers, and since he will not go up against his cousinโ€™s incoming administration WILL YOU?


  34. Yes Bushie!

    We plead guilty as charged, not by you, for being the anarchists we are.

    Furthermore, we are unrepentantly so.

    Jeff is not a political scientist, but that has never encumbered him from attaching the ‘man-in-the-street’ meaning to anarchism, as a stand-in, for the substantial political philosophy that it is, has been.

    And there are many variants of anarchism but centrally this political philosophy is held by people who distrust ‘government’ and all hierarchical systems generally, as we do.

    You may say that anarchism applies intent to purpose – to self. It espouses that people can, for themselves, on a daily, minute to minute, basis be the masters of their own destinies.

    We were never convinced, and never will be, that citizens of any area should invest all their collective power within any subset of individuals only to, with cap in hand, turn around and ask these same people for rights, some of that very power.

    Some people, like Georgie Porgie, even go as far as to contend that all leaders are ‘appointed by god’ to justify the unjustifiable. Anarchists reject this notion.

    In spite of several negative connotations and some underdeveloped notions Wikipedia gives a general view of anarchism for the beginner. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

    We, here and now, do not want to be too much more explicit. But everything we say, have said, comes from this framework

    Willing to live or die an anarchist!


  35. Since the current election conundrum seems to have flummoxed the resident Constitutional expert we are engaging in some seasonal kite flying in trying to answer the question posed. I have a simple remedy why not change Election laws to mandate a fixed date every four or five years? Will this happen? Hell No! Although the LOO has made statements affirming that she would take that path if her Party becomes the next Govโ€™t. It wonโ€™t become reality for the simple reason that when politicians in Barbados achieve power they exercise it to its maximum and a fixed date wouldnโ€™t support that objective.


  36. @ Sargeant
    Good answer, but it is MUCH too specific and may lead the innocent (Dribbles) to think that this is a narrow matter that can be easily addressed.

    The real reason it will not be done is that we have – and will continue to champion- a shiite system of governance that is SPECIFICALLY designed to undermine the majority interests…. while fuelling the albino-centric imaginations of the few….

    PATENTLY obvious solutions are routinely dismissed in favour of mindless, inefficient, economy-wrecking exploits ….things that boggle the mind….

    -Things like levying a ‘tipping fee’ and then having to spend twice as much cleaning up gullies and cart roads…
    -Things like facilitating an albino centric foreigner who previously pissed on Paradise beach with 40 years of tax free sweetness…
    -Things like selling off the GOOD family silver ..that actually earned profits…
    -Things like planting river tampering in place of sugar cane….

    NOBODY can be that stupid.
    These things are done to achieve specific, targeted, hidden (secretive) objectives.

    However if the BB people are foolish enough to sit and ‘wait it out’, as suggested by the dribbler, then the favoured few will continue to kick the ball (and with two on call per male brass bowl – there are many available) down the road.


  37. If I were the BLP, I would stay far away from any legal challenge. Let moutta Bushie go file a case. Barbadians are seeing who is really power hungry.


  38. Well General Elections in Barbados will be held after His Majesty King ๐Ÿ‘‘ Freundel Jerome Stuart return from the Commonwealth conference in the U.K in April 2018 .

    Now , I believe that sharing such information is historic

    For the first time in Westminster system of government. – a sitting PM has given the opposition parties a clear………heads up when General Elections will be held !!!!

    His Majesty has created history…….once again !!!!

  39. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    FearPlay :“What is your informed opinion Jeff? Will this administration be part of the solution or part of the problem by remaining until the โ€œlawโ€ makes them get up and go?

    Bush Tea:“However if the BB people are foolish enough to sit and โ€˜wait it outโ€™, as suggested by the dribbler, then the favoured few will continue to kick the ball (and with two on call per male brass bowl โ€“ there are many available) down the road.

    We cannot talk the talk, said no one ever. Of course we will wait it out. We are Barbadians are we not? Nuff talk, little action.

  40. Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service Avatar
    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    Fractured Fool…..will Fruendolittle be visiting the offices of Cambridge Analytica on Oxford St…..there is much history to be made there still.


  41. LOL @ Enuff
    If you were the BLP…??!! …. IF….? ….F??? ๐Ÿ™‚

    Looka…
    Don’t mek BU laugh do!!!

    …and the reason the BLP won’t file a case is simple…
    Would Satan bring a case against Lucifer?
    Would you expect the non-leper Roy to bring a case against Wilkinson?
    …or vice versa?

    And boss…
    When Bushie brings his case …it going be cat piss and peppa ’bout here…
    Just wait til the Big Boss Bushman come back …and bring Bushie’s brand new whacker….

    You will be cool though …cause you is Bushie pal….
    LOL
    ha ha ha

  42. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    But what action is really needed @Jeff and all!

    I did a Google search on Bajan elections and this jumped off the query list (caps my emphasis): “General elections were held in Barbados on 21 February 2013. They were the FIRST post-independence elections where the election date was announced FIVE years after the last general election.

    So in sum this is the SECOND time that this use of the full five year entitlement has taken place as the ’08 parliament was elected on 15th Jan. Clearly Stuart has taken it one step further than Arthur did but what a brouhaha over his ineffectual gamesmanship!

    To what avail any further non effectual court action…one which surely must fail as there is no law being broken!

    And in practical terms if the PM has contravened some law and a case is heard immediately what exactly will be the court sanction…other than to set a date certain in time forthwith before the next three months expire, or give the GG that mandate….

    What a waste of resources that would … but political opposition dynomite…is that the aim here with this court action folly !

    To mimic the Americans..this is a wonderfuly technical Nothing-Roti being garnished with too much hot sauce!


  43. Bushie

    Spoken like a true Calvinist


  44. @de pedantic Dribbler March 25, 2018 at 10:12 PM #
    I did a Google search on Bajan elections and this jumped off the query list (caps my emphasis): โ€œGeneral elections were held in Barbados on 21 February 2013. They were the FIRST post-independence elections where the election date was announced FIVE years after the last general election.
    So in sum this is the SECOND time that this use of the full five year entitlement has taken place as the โ€™08 parliament was elected on 15th Jan. Clearly Stuart has taken it one step further than Arthur did but what a brouhaha over his ineffectual gamesmanship!

    The Feb 21, 2013 election was also called by P.M. Stuart, not P.M. Arthur.

  45. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Burnham, thank you. Indeed.

    I wanted to highlight that this is not new by Mr Stuart but had OSA on my finger tips apparently.

    Since ’86 the longest period between elections was 4 yrs and 8 months but since DLP power in “08 we now have the full five year period being used up.

    Insidious, callous or even arrogant but certainly not illegal.

  46. Andrew Simpson Avatar

    Is there perhaps being an opportunity born – by these โ€˜testing of the constitutional arrangementsโ€™, for citizens to accomplish a much needed bypass; of the peculiar system of Westminster government (with flawed electoral beginnings and derelict economic outcomes) in which we have been too long, locked?


  47. Dribbles…. you STILL don’t get it….do you?

    Do you understand the concept of RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION AND ANGER?
    Do you grasp the idea of putting RIGHT before might?
    Do you not get the concept of COLLECTIVE MORALITY – where the collective will of the people can be strong enough to not only FORCE leadership behaviours, but to actually formulate what the LAW dictates.

    Go to court shiite!! ..in Barbados? …and get the case called in 2035?

    If the STUPID unions were not just as lukewarm and compromised as you seem to be, they would have built on the momentum RIGHT after the big march – put the fear of GOD into Froon’s ass, and either shown him the door – or FORCED elections by a TOTAL shutdown back then.
    This would have saved Barbados PLENTY grief …and perhaps even plenty shiite flowing on our streets.

    Instead, they waxed lukewarm, hot and cold, up and down, …and then went back to begging the Devil for favours…. or as you put it, waiting for ‘this too to pass….’

    Steupsss…
    Hopeless brass bowls…..


  48. @Jeff

    “Note that Her Majesty has no authority, except perhaps theoretical, in Barbados”

    NOT TRUE, Her Majesty as Leader of the Commonwealth countries has absolute power do do as she’s sees necessary, up to including having a Commonwealth military take over of Barbados and it’s affairs. This would be extreme indeed, however should Barbados present situation develope into a dictatorship then you can bet this would indeed happen.


  49. Ping Pong March 25, 2018 at 6:36 PM #

    NOT TRUE, Her Majesty as Leader of the Commonwealth countries has absolute power do do as sheโ€™s sees necessary, up to including having a Commonwealth military take over of Barbados and itโ€™s affairs(Quote)

    Evidence, please.


  50. Andrew Simpson March 26, 2018 at 7:03 AM #

    ……..to accomplish a much needed bypass; of the peculiar system of Westminster government (with flawed electoral beginnings and derelict economic outcomes)…(Quote)

    Evidence please. Apart from the traditional arguments, what is wrong with the first-past-the-post system of elections (strengths and weaknesses?); and how does the Westminster system lead to a ‘derelict’ economic system?

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