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Caribbean Court of Justice

One of the earliest formulations of the concept of the rule of law is to the effect that โ€œthe king himself ought to be subject to God and the law because the law makes him kingโ€ฆโ€ Later scholars such as Coke also asserted the supremacy of law over the pretensions of the executive, and AV Dicey, who is popularly credited as being the father of the modern concept noted that the Rule of law, in the second principle, means โ€œthe equality of law or equal subjection of all classes of people to the ordinary law of the land which is administered by the ordinary law courtsโ€. In this sense, the rule of law conveys that no man is above the law. Even the Government officials are under a duty to obey the same law.

Contrasting pronouncements during the past week by two leading regional government officials to, in one case, a ruling by the Caribbean Court of Justice and, in the second case, to some obiter dicta [observations not of crucial importance to the decision] in a number of its judgments, illustrate neatly the extent to which some administrations are prepared to abide with this aspect of concept of the rule of law.

The Caribbean Court of Justice [CCJ], a creature of the regional integration movement, has had, in its relatively short existence, to endure the peculiar ambivalence, dither and mutual mistrust of the regional states towards their own created institutions. The Federation may be justifiably cited in this connection as indeed may now the regional court.

Conceived of as encompassing both an original and an appellate jurisdiction; the latter as the regionโ€™s highest court to replace the Judicial Committee of Her Majestyโ€™s Privy Council, the court has striven over the past twelve years essentially to limp along on the good leg of its original jurisdiction only, while, to date, no more than four jurisdictions have seen it fit to exercise their discretion to accede to the appellate jurisdiction. A cynic might reasonably be minded observe that the original jurisdiction is fully subscribed only because it is an inextricable incident of the Revised Treaty of Chaguaramas, to which all the member states of CARICOM are signatories, and not because of any overarching desire on the part of these states to have the court arbitrate their trade disputes.

So far as concerns the appellate jurisdiction, however, the position is markedly different and here, owing to a veritable โ€œsancocheโ€ of distrust of the capacity of a regional body effectively and judiciously to resolve private legal disputes in one jurisdiction, an outright popular rejection possibly based on partisan considerations in another, the lack of enthusiasm for resolving the matter by popular referendum in yet another and by virtue of judicial decision in a fourth, the court has enjoyed less than majority support from the regional states.

I am not certain to what extent this general air of disfavour might have influenced the recently announced stance of the governing administration in Belize to subject to parliamentary debate and resolution by conscience rather than party whip, a recent ruling of the Court for that government to honour a multi-million dollar international arbitration award.

While this initiative might, on its face, smack of a clear contempt of the ruling by the CCJ, the Prime Minister has sought to justify it on the technical ground that it is not constitutionally permissible for money to be withdrawn from the Consolidated Fund without Parliamentary resolution. Although this argument may be legally sound, the absence of any enthusiasm by the governing administration for propelling the vote in a direction consistent with the ruling appears to demonstrate a reluctance to comply therewith. The consequences of this have not gone unnoticed by the private sector in that state. In a report published in the Barbados Advocate last week, the president of the Belize Chamber of Commerce warned, โ€œWhen you have a government or a country that has not paid its debtโ€ฆ the borrowing rate [on the international market] becomes a higher rateโ€ฆ the business community will pay that priceโ€ฆโ€

More in the region of fair comment and far less combative was the reaction of the Right Honourable Prime Minister, Mr Freundel Stuart, Prime Minister of Barbados, in his response to the not infrequent criticisms of the CCJ pertaining to the tardiness of the local court system and its consequence of infringing the fundamental rights of litigants. Terming these criticisms an โ€œunnecessary slanderโ€ of the Barbados judicial system, Mr Stuart sought to argue that such delays were not peculiar to Barbados but were of regional incidence and contrasted the comparatively less salacious handling of the matter by the JCPC which remains the highest tribunal for most of the regional jurisdictions.

It is indeed difficult to defend a cogent charge of judicial tardiness and the Prime Ministerโ€™s justification that it also happens elsewhere would not, as he well knows, suffice to absolve an accused from guilt of an offence or a defendant from liability for a civil wrong.

Mr Stuart is, understandably, clearly nettled by the CCJโ€™s adverse comments concerning the nationโ€™s court system. Given that a significant part of that delay is owed to adjournments caused by the unavailability of counsel in the matter, Mr Stuart and his learned Attorney General may thus find some assistance in a recent decision of the High Court in England.

In Bates v Post Office, when a date for the first case management conference was ordered, the clerks to leading counsel for the claimants advised that they could not attend on that date. The judge then informed the parties that a formal application to move the date would be required but this was not done and the judge consequently refused to change the date. At the conference, a substantive hearing was scheduled for a date in November 2018. This time, leading counsel for the defendant advised that he was unable to make that date because of a prior commitment in the Chancery Division, and both parties requested that the date be moved into 2019. Fraser J refused the application observing, โ€œFixing hearings around the diaries of busy counsel, rather than their fixing their diaries around this case, is in my judgment fundamentally the wrong approach.โ€ He further remarked wryly that fixing hearings around the availability of counsel โ€œhas all the disadvantages of doing an intricate jigsaw puzzle, with none of the fun associated with that activityโ€ฆโ€

Indeed, a reading of the entire decision would repay study.


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115 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – The Rule of Law and the CCJ”


  1. Jeff

    We appreciate that you are willing to have something cogent to say about a matter in which the PM has already aired a view.

    The way in which your opinion adds contours to the discussion. That is always encouraging

    Substantively, similar matters are attracting the attentions of a hapless British government in the Brexit ‘negotiations’ with the European Union.

    The critical matters appear to be the single market and jurisdiction

    These just happen to be two of the same issues which underlie your column

    Of course, the major difference is that the Caribbean still seems totally committed to a failed regional experiment while the British (maybe the UK) seems embarked on a process of disintegration whose outcome is far from certain even as misguided as it presents.


  2. It is my fervent wish that Brexit become a complete failure and indeed the electorate put their stamp of disapproval on this minefield of bleeps and blunders.Just as Cameron has been forgotten,so also this nonsensical Brexit foolishness that disadvantages the U.K. and the Barbados economy.

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    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    “Fraser J refused the application observing, โ€œFixing hearings around the diaries of busy counsel, rather than their fixing their diaries around this case, is in my judgment fundamentally the wrong approach.โ€ He further remarked wryly that fixing hearings around the availability of counsel โ€œhas all the disadvantages of doing an intricate jigsaw puzzle, with none of the fun associated with that activityโ€ฆโ€

    My point exactly, lawyers on the island are known to maliciously delay the starting, continuance and closing of cases…using lies…..for years and even decades.

    It is high time the Chief Justice gave the JUDGES the powers they need to put an end to the scam and charade, it is unfair to litigants and criminal in intent.. …judges should have the power to put an end to these evil acts by lawyers through refusal to continue cases, very heavy fines or lengthy prison time…set a prescedent…the CCJ is right..

    … Stuart wants to continue aiding in the destruction of people’s lives….and the court system.

    Judges in the supreme court seem powerless to stop these vicious 4th rate lawyers who misuse and abuse the court and waste everyone’s time, without any consequences.


  4. Prime Minister Stuart is correct, why is the CCJ picking out Barbados for comment compared to the other three countries? The fact that they are accurate in their critique is irrelevant.

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    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    I think it says a lot when a landlord tenant case, a simple, basic matter that should be settled in Barbados’ supreme court within months, not only takes years, but ends up at the CCJ….basic cases that cannot be settled in a supreme court means there is a fundament problem….a flaw in how these cases are being adjudicated.

    And that is not the only one.

    Fruendel cannot tell me anything that I would believe, all court systems have issues, but not at the level I have seen at the supreme court.

    Did the same CCJ not have to upbraid Hal Gollop, Smith and Leslie Haynes for their idiocy…..well multiply that by 10…that is what they do at the supreme court….and more, hence the reason there are never any closures to cases.

    I take it the other member islands might not have that level of inefficiency, incompetence and evil intent…they are so few of them.

    There is one in particular case I want to talk about but cant just yet, a case that should never even be in court…but the 4th rate lawyers are deliberately keeping the case there to waste the court’s time, because they are allowed to collect fees, harass the claimant and just be allround jackasses.


  6. Of course, the major difference is that the Caribbean still seems totally committed to a failed regional experiment while the British (maybe the UK) seems embarked on a process of disintegration whose outcome is far from certain even as misguided as it presents.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The reason the regional experiment has failed is because the individual countries are extremely different in origin.

    The reason the UK is out of the EU because its origins are quite different from others in Europe.


  7. Prime Minister Stuart is correct, why is the CCJ picking out Barbados for comment compared to the other three countries? The fact that they are accurate in their critique is irrelevant.

    @ David, they criticize Guyana too, though not for sloth-

    See Freddie Kissoon in today’s Kaiteuer News:-

    “In castigating the judicial system in Guyana for misadministration during the hearing of an appeal, Justice David Hayton of the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) said; โ€œIt was very difficult to understand how this can be possible or justifiable in any legal system.โ€
    For analytical purposes, one should focus on the words, โ€œin any legal system.โ€
    What the CCJ jurist is actually saying is that the anomaly he came across should not occur at all in a civilized nation. And it has happened in a modern Caribbean country in the 21st century.
    Judge Hayton โ€œainโ€™t see nuttin yet.โ€ The judicial, political, social and administrative systems in Guyana are surreal. One has to live in this land to see its dysfunctional ontology which to an outsider would be incomprehensible.”


  8. To whom much is given ….!!

    Barbados is expected to be different.

    So must attract greater criticism than others.

    It deserves it.


  9. … plus, wasn’t Barbados instrumental in its formation?


  10. To whom much is given โ€ฆ.!!Barbados is expected to be different.So must attract greater criticism than others.It deserves it.

    @John, Not contesting that the criticism is deserved, but is not your thesis premised on our inflated view of our self worth? What makes us so different from the others?

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    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    On an even sadder note…

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/108916/economist-charles-skeete-passes-away

    “Charles Skeete, a leading Caribbean economist, who was a prominent Barbados diplomat in the 1980s in Washington, has died in Virginia, just outside of Washington, D.C. Skeete, 79, died peacefully at home among family and friends yesterday afternoon. โ€œCharles was a caring and understanding husband and Caribbean person whose interest in… “

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    It’s not a matter of expected to be different, but entails the level that the supreme court has sunk after decades of misuse and abuse….and the attorneys general of the last 3 decades and the chief justice of the 90s absolutely refused to clean it up, upgrade procedures and practices that would prevent such abuses, because they too had their deceitful, criminal and greedy agendas.

    That is the reality.

    In reviewing cases put before them from Barbados the CJJ can clearly see what the real problems are, sorry they can’t heavily penalize the same lawyers going before them for wasting their time, at least not yet…but they did manage to make a litigant pay costs, it’s the useless lawyers who know better should be made to pay for wasting the CCJs time.


  13. @Jeff

    Obviously did not lay on the sarcasm thick enough?

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    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    At the end of the day…if every basic case has to be referred to the CCJ because of a dysfunctional supreme court and mediocre lawyers…watch out for more heavy, very public criticisms….maybe after enough embarrassment….the attorney general and Chief Justice will finally.get the message.


  15. @Jeff

    How is it possible for the AG’s office to make a mistake by sending the draft of the Bail and Firearms Act prematurely to the Bar Association for comment?


  16. Condolences to family, friends and former school mates of Charlie Skeete. Fond memories. May he go Up and |On to glory.


  17. Jeff

    A few years back I was in court and heard this exchange.

    A senior (years and practice) QC here in Barbados had a stroke.

    You probably know the guy, been around forever.

    His junior and other associated QC’s were arguing for a 6 month delay while he recovered.

    The lawyer in opposition chose to tell the court what his son, also a lawyer but practicing in the UK had told him.

    In the UK, a barrister arguing a case was handed a message during argument that his father had died.

    He informed the court.

    The Court recessed for 15 minutes to, as the English Judge put it, “give learned counsel an opportunity to grieve”.

    In response one of the QC’s arguing for the delay here told the court that the difference between us and England is that here we are civilized.

    The lawyer arguing against the delay said it has nothing to with civilization.

    In England It is the litigant with whom the court is concerned, not the litigator.

    The judge here gave the delay!!!

    Guess we are more civilized than England, you may be right about over inflated self worth!!


  18. Guyana had a Chief Justice acting for 12 years and a chancellor of the judiciary acting for the same period of time.They both retired in their acting capacities.Guyana according to Kissoon has gone to the dogs compliments of the PPP/C cabal.A similar situation might arise in Trinidad if it was left to Panday and Persad-Bissessar.The answer to both is obvious.Kissoon calls out both parties for their corrupt practices but more so the 15 year reign of an ignorant President post Jagan,succeeded by an equally ignorant and dumbass poppet man who couldn’t make a sensible decision if it was going to save his life.


  19. The Brits were too willing to accept the nonsense of Farage and Cameron and now regret it because all they were told,lies,have now been laid bare.Farage?Just like Trump.Racist garbage and gross ignorance combined.
    Of Trump the Guardian put it this way..”thin skinned,melodramatic,petulant,impulsive,crude,
    loudmouthed,obnoxious,boastful,shameless and has a casual relationship with the truth.He makes up things as he goes along”.

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    @Jeff

    How is it possible for the AGโ€™s office to make a mistake by sending the draft of the Bail and Firearms Act prematurely to the Bar Association for comment?

    @ David, I was unaware of this…and what do you mean by “prematurely”? It was not in Bill form?


  21. How dare those “boys” at the CCJ criticize Barbados. Don’t they remember who put them there? Who paying their salaries? Those CCJ ‘wildboys” have no class like the nice white gentlemen of the Privy Council. These uppity CCJ people feel that they could tell Barbados something? Talk yuh talk Freundel!


  22. @Jeff

    Read p.28A of todays Sunday Sun. The AG apologised for the gaffe which has seen a drafts of the two bits of proposed legislation sent ‘prematurely’ to the Bar for their comment/feedback.

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    @Jeff

    Read p.28A of todays Sunday Sun. The AG apologized for the gaffe which has seen a drafts of the two bits of proposed legislation sent โ€˜prematurelyโ€™ to the Bar for their comment/feedback.

    @David, I read it.This seems most extraordinary. And surely the Bar Ass would recognize and distinguish a completed draft Bill from one that is still in preparation and thus a mere proposal


  24. @Jeff

    This is why it caught the attention of the blogmaster, something smells rotten all the way in Denmark. Bear in mind it was reported that the Bar Association, to its credit, responded with a 26 page response hours after receiving the eroneaous draft.


  25. @ Jeff who wrote …..” This seems most extraordinary. ”

    Just a ” human error ,” typical in a laid back society.

  26. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar

    Agreed! A flown legislative kite caught in a tree branch?


  27. These problems of integration, jurisdiction, markets etc are signs that the projects for empire/s are losing control of world nations.

    For example, the Americans seem not to have the will, interest, in dictating systems convergence either in Europe or elsewhere.

    Maybe, the not so new world order is losing control.

    Should history be a guide, one may expect these tensions to grow until the critical mass of a new power imposes a higher level of order on parties.


  28. Of Trump the Guardian put it this way..โ€thin skinned,melodramatic,petulant,impulsive,crude,
    loudmouthed,obnoxious,boastful,shameless and has a casual relationship with the truth.He makes up things as he goes alongโ€.
    +++++++++++++++++++

    He is a winner among a lot of real losers!!!!!

    They forgot to mention that!!

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    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    This article and op-ed coming from the online newspaper of Kutappa-Harris who abuses the supreme court criminally and has for decades, ever since David Simmons showed him how to, using mediocre lawyers.

    It is time for the Chief Justice to make an example of CGI Insurance…the worst culprit for abusing the supreme court using lawyers who lie consistently to judges to delay cases.

    I was mildly surprised at the nerve of this newspaper to even broach the subject, more the reason for the Chief Justice to make a stand, he knows what CGI lawyers do to destroy the integrity of the court and so does every judge who sit on those benches.

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/12/06/bteditorial-of-duty-jobs-gold-crowns-and-the-judiciary/

    “And Mr Stuart needs to be โ€œoverwhelmedโ€ by what the CCJ says. The CCJ must continue to โ€œslanderโ€ Barbadosโ€™ judiciary. The CCJ must continue to highlight the inefficiencies in Barbadosโ€™ judicial system. The CCJ must continue to berate those with responsibility for the judiciary and those in the seat of power if that is what it takes to light a fire under them as one possible pathway to improvement.

    It is not good enough for the political directorate and those in charge of the judiciary to state, perfunctorily, that they have to deal with the situation or that they have to find ways to alleviate the problem. When? How? At what juncture? There are many Barbadians buried at Westbury Cemetery and Coral Ridge who are still awaiting decisions from the law courts while Mr Stuart remains โ€œnot too overwhelmedโ€.

    And if Mr Stuart wants to locate one of the many sources of the problems in the judiciary, he simply has to look across the floor of the Chamber and be briefed by his parliamentary colleague and MP for St James Central, Mr Kerrie Symmonds. He had this to say about attorneys-at-law yesterday from the floor of Parliament. โ€œThere are some colleagues of mine at the Bar who have made delays a tool of the process. It is part of their craft. They come to court in order to delay the process and put it off.โ€ And while this occurs, Barbadians are kept on remand for six, seven or more years without trial for criminal matters. Accident victims are denied compensation for ten, 15, 20 or more years in delayed civil actions.

    But with Mr Stuart having been a practising attorney of more than three decades standing, we believe that Mr Symmondsโ€™ indictment of his colleagues was not breaking news to him. We feel it is now incumbent on Mr Stuart to be equally vociferous in his condemnation of his legal colleagues for this conduct exposed by Mr Symmonds, as he was willing to criticize the CCJ for speaking the truth.”


  30. John
    You are hailing and praising a result that is contaminated by inter alia Russian interference.Further you have shown a propensity to conceal the known facts in this odyssey so far.Its like backing a winner at the garrison although the jury is out on an objection of a bombed horse.
    Those close to the action have had their say and Mueller will have his say in due course.There might be consequences who knows.

    Meanwhile here is the Huffington Post: “Donald Trump regularly incites political violence,is a serial liar,rampant xenophobe,racist,misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all muslims–1.6 billion members of an entire religion—from entering the USA”

    HP again…”Trump,belittling,bullying and insulting his way to the White House”.

    The New Yorker: “A White House characterized by chaos and conflict—a Byzantine Court led by a reality television star,family members and a circle of ideologues and loyalists”.
    What an example of the free world so called.More like the Wild West of the old Cowboy and crook movies of the 40’s,50’s.America caught in a time warp,led by a narcissist buffoon and clown.How embarrassing to the educated west to have to put up with these dinosaurs like Trump,Manafort, Sessions,Flynn,Kushner.Even a convert like Theresa is appalled at the man’s judgement.


  31. There are no international rules of law without the application of brute force, as most believe

    Even some academicians question the very nature of what is called a body of international law

    Markets are maintained through brute force, not law.

    What we really have is a shifting or tiered system of rules applied to serve the interests of the powerful – double standards!

    A current example would be Trump’s determination that Al-Quds or East Jerusalem is the capital of the Zionist occupation regime.

    A move which has turned decades of UN law on its head. But the UN itself has no independent means of enforcing the compliance of the Shatan of our world.

    And any attempt in the Security Council will no doubt be vetoed by the violator, the belligerent United States government acting for its christian-Zionist proxies.

    The Trump administration has even moved to criminalize the BDS movement which protests the genocidal crimes by Zionists against Palestinians. What law? This is a state of war.

    This is a more profound set of lawlessness than what is written here this day.

    It has the potential of giving us the Armageddon which the dispensationalist-dominionist-Christian-Zionist ideologues have fictitiously created.

    Never mind that such a set of circumstances portend the mass killings of all Jews unless they then accept a false christian god – this is what the christians believe to be law – international law!

    But the very Zionists who fought for the occupation of Palestine were ALL atheists. Today ignorant Christian-Zionists are, by supporting the destruction of Palestine, serving the interests of some non-believers.

    If these are the ultimate source for your law – then please allow us to be outlaws!

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    Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service

    “But with Mr Stuart having been a practising attorney of more than three decades standing, we believe that Mr Symmondsโ€™ indictment of his colleagues was not breaking news to him. We feel it is now incumbent on Mr Stuart to be equally vociferous in his condemnation of his legal colleagues for this conduct exposed by Mr Symmonds, as he was willing to criticize the CCJ for speaking the truth.โ€

    As a mediocre and incompetent attorney himself, was well known for only being good for delaying senior citizen’s land and property cases until they died…..a la Thiefer of the house Michael Carrington…..Stuart not only did the same thing while a practicing attorney, but was famous for not closing any cases himself, just another of the hundreds of incompetent, self serving lawyers on the island.

    So he is very unlikely to “condemn” the same actions he protected Thiefer of the house Carrington for committing.against a disabled senior citizen….and of which he was also a well known practitioner, these house negros got some nerve.

    They are indeed wild animals, no empathy or sympathy for anyone, it is all about who they can victimize. …true sociopaths.


  33. The local elite will soon reverse the decision that the CCJ in Tricksidad is the supreme court for Barbados in civil and criminal matters. They are very angry about the fact that the CCJ hammers on poor CJ Gibson for constant delay, the leisure king of the Caribbean who puts “live and family” (and his many hobbies) above the common good and the pride of Barbados.


  34. John
    You are hailing and praising a result that is contaminated by inter alia Russian interference.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Comey said ages ago no evidence of Russian Interference!!

    Obama had his say on Russian interference ….. Impossible!!

    These are the facts!!

    Live with them!!

    So here is the media now trying the stunt and Trump eating them alive!!

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-slams-false-reporting-a-stain-on-america/ar-BBGvLW2?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

    If after 7 million bucks and months of investigation …. still no evidence.

    So Obama musse right!! … no Russian interference!!

    This has got to the stage of comedy!!


  35. Nonsense John.Trump tried to get Comey off the Russian connection and when he couldn’t he fired him and then boasted to the press that he fired him and now the Russian investigation is out of the way.
    Obama warned Trump not to hire Flynn and told him why he had him dismissed.Trump ended up dismissing him too when he couldn’t get Comey to go easy on him.Now Flynn got Trump x 3,Manafort and god knows who else all within the loop.John,can you imagine your admiree Manafort wearing an electronic bracelet and can’t leave his home without permission.Geez,what a climb down.Trump is now under so much pressure,analysts are saying he had a mini stroke on TV right before the public’s eyes last week when he made the mistake of mentioning Jerusalem belong to some tribe which is not accepted by any other nation other than the recipient tribe.


  36. Go listen to Rush, right 99.7% of the time!!


  37. I don’t ever listen to Rush Limbaugh,Sean Hannity nor the serial payer off of hush money the pig headed oreally.I am not that stupid to follow anything Fox News peddles.Never did.I’m all MSNBC….a Rachel fan and especially a Lawrence O’Donnell fan.Liked Keith Olberman when he was there.I wish they would re hire him.His mistake was to make a donation to a fund of someone running for public office.
    BTW how come Alabama,the State of Notoreity for paedophiles and the likes of Sessions has been named by a UN body as having the WORST POVERTY in the DEVELOPED WORLD. That doesn’t reflect well on the likes of Sessions not Roy Moore nor of the mighty, wealthy USA.


  38. The trick to being an efficient consumer of news is to have multiple sources. All media outlets and practitioners will have a biase or publish based on available information.ย 


  39. David
    Not when all media in the mainstream are so closely controlled and receive their wires from the same sources
    People in the West don’t like real alternatives anyway


  40. @Pacha

    There is a report circulated in the Jamaica media space which highlighted the pressing need for regional traditional media to embrace the social media space as a source of legit news because of the use by citizens.

    Will search for the link.

    >


  41. It is quite interesting that while the
    traditional media crticise the new media, they are constantly utilizing new/ social
    media as sources. Quite recently a Nation
    newspaper editorial quoted a social media
    post and itโ€™s author to strengthen its
    position. So like everything else it is the
    power of the consumer that matters. Once
    people follow the new media, the traditional
    would fall in line. The longevity of BU proves
    this point.


  42. Only a complete idiot can fail to recognise that social media is the future of news, information, communication and knowledge dissemination.
    …..but that means that in Barbados, the vast majority will still hang on to the traditional mass media dogma – led by morons like Hal and Carl ‘Lil Ossie’ Moore.


  43. David el al
    We generally agree.
    Our point is that social media and citizen journalism are still treated as inferior to establishment outlets.

    There are those we still consider Fars News Agency or RT, for e.g., as less reliable than the familiar


  44. @ Bush Tea
    Point taken. However if we look at the fact
    that Barbados Today has survived as an
    online organ that appeals mainly to the
    Under thirty demographic. Ten years ago
    we would not have expected this to
    happen.
    That is why organs such as BU use this
    opportunity to be of greater impact on the
    society.


  45. Here is what Rush thinks about the media

    Remember, he is correct 99.7 % of the time!!

    Whether he is conservative or liberal does not matter …. he is nearly always right!!

    “The media did not make Donald Trump and the Media can’t destroy him”

    I did not start listening to him because of his politics, just because he is nearly always right.

    I don’t watch TV and have not done so for years but started back watching when the Presidential cycle begun.

    I watched CNN and FOX News for balance then I found CNN relied on the Polls and the Polls were always wrong.

    The Polls said Trump would lose …. they were wrong.

    My gut told me they were wrong.

    So I just watched FOX because at least, FOX got close to reality!!.

    Now, I am back to normal, so no more TV.

    But the situation in America I wanted to keep track of so I looked around for a source and found Rush Limbaugh.

    I don’t listen to him for any other reason, only because he is nearly always right.

    When I start finding he is wrong or misleading, I will stop!!


  46. Here are some more of Rush Limbaugh’s thoughts on the Media

    In a way he is describing Social Media and its inability to get the facts and report the News.

    I think the use Social Media may actually start to wane as time goes on because it does not deal in reality and sooner or later, people want to know the truth.


  47. @Pacha

    There will always be that perception because of the socalled standards the establishment operate within and ‘scholarship’ trained journalist are suppose to bring? The pragmatic view is that there is a place for all at the table.


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