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Jeff Cumberbatch – Chairman of the FTC and Deputy Dean, Law Faculty, UWI, Cave Hill

Last week, the first part of this column treated the submission by Sir Hilary Beckles, Vice Chancellor of the University of the West Indies, that the statue of Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson had outlived its incongruous presence in Heroes Square and that its continued presence there makes Barbados a deviant and a pariah in the community of progressive nations that oppose publicly revering persons (such as Nelson) known to have committed โ€œcrimes against humanityโ€.

In that first part, I also bemoaned the absence of a popular discourse on the Vice Chancellorโ€™s proposal, an absence that I found mystifying. In the past week, however, there has been some public reaction to the proposal, most of it predictably defensive of preservation of the status quo rather than of its alteration by one jot or tittle.

For example, in last Fridayโ€™s edition of the Barbados Advocate, a correspondent, Mr Michael Rudder, chose to pray in aid the undeniable reality of the criminally forcible mix of the races present in most if not all slave societies and to wonder โ€œif any of my African ancestors were responsible for selling any of their โ€œbrothersโ€ to those who carried on the slave tradeโ€ while he admits knowledge that the family of one Caucasian ancestor did have slaves.

He then proceeds to make the amazing rhetorical point that since we are all mixed, โ€œwhat does it matter that some ancestor was a so-called white supremacist? And he continues still rhetorically, โ€œDid your ancestor see him/herself as such? Do we see ourselves as black supremacists?

Essentially, he makes the point that we should acknowledge our history and move on and not โ€œkeep holding up the rear mirror of our pastโ€.

It is tempting to read this opinion in a sense clearly not intended by the author and to treat it as an agreement with Sir Hilaryโ€™s thesis that officially to maintain the statue of Lord Nelson in its current location is to hold up the rear view mirror of 1813 Barbados when Nelson was a hero to the existing societal structure, the identical structure that was to be the target of a slave rebellion a mere three years later, officially recognized by the elevation of one of its reputed leaders to the highest national status. Indeed, there is a bit of a paradox in having both of these men elevated to this lofty status, even if that status of one of them is now merely situational.

It is a conundrum that seems to pervade Barbadian society, where the general attitude appears to be โ€œI do not really care what they do about Lord Nelson, but he is part of our historyโ€ OR the more extreme and silly, โ€œif we move Nelson then we should remove all traces of English influence, including place names, titles and perhaps surnamesโ€ฆโ€

Veteran columnist Patrick Hoyos in his column last Sunday required โ€œsome sort of consistent rationale if Nelson should be movedโ€ although he did not spell out what would constitute such consistency or who would be the ultimate arbiter of it.

Mr Hoyos also appears to have interpreted Sir Hilaryโ€™s letter in a way different to me. He construes the following passages from the Beckles letter as indicating that Sir Hilary would not have minded Nelson remaining standing so long as he was overlooking Carlisle Bay contemplating his exploits beyond the horizonโ€ฆโ€

โ€œ The Democratic Labour Party turned it around and deepened its roots when it had the opportunity to move it to a marine park on the pier.

โ€ข The Barbados Labour Party did not wish the Right Excellent Errol Barrow at the centre of Parliament Square and placed him out of sight of the Assembly in what was a public car park. Nelson remained in the more prominent placeโ€.

Perhaps owing to my professional training, I prefer to base the gist of an opinion on the interpretation that what is stated later should generally overrule an earlier statute or decision that is inconsistent with it through the doctrine of implied repeal. I prefer to ascertain Sir Hilaryโ€™s sentiments from his final paragraphs-

โ€œThe assumption is growing, I have been informed, that the Government might rather citizens, in an act of moral civil disobedience, to take matters in their own hands, and remove the offending obstacle to democracy. This has been the case in the United States and South Africa.

Quietly, state officials could slip away and say that the people have spoken. Such alliances of active citizens and passive state have moved many societies. Barbados must move on.โ€

This most assuredly does not read as a paean to a mere relocation of the statue to me.

O Dominica!

I should wish to express my sincere best wishes for the full renaissance and recovery of the island of Dominica after its devastation by Hurricane Maria during last week. Owing to my occupation, I have come into contact with many of the people of that island whether as teachers, classmates, or most latterly students, and they have been without exception, some of the most gracious and warmest people you will ever encounter. Dominica was also the first country that I slept in outside of Barbados when as a member of the Animation Choir under the leadership of Mr Harold Rock, I sailed there by the Federal Palm, I believe, in 1968. I do not remember much of it now; except partaking of the sweet lime fruit and hazarding a taste of stewed mountain chicken.

My more recent visits unfortunately have been severely limited in duration and in free time, but I have seem the photographs of the recent destruction wrought and I weep for the country I remember.

O Dominica, the land of beauty

The land of verdant and glorious sunshineโ€ฆ


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499 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – “…The Ball that Shot Nelson” (2)”

  1. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    John, each time I prove you definitively in the wrong you go off on another irrelevant but virulently racist tangent. Stick to the topic: the statue of Nelson.

    We have established beyond doubt that this statue was erected by racists to celebrate the life of Lord Nelson, a White supremacist who used his political & military career to promote the enslavement of Black people.

    Why should it stand where it does in Barbados?

  2. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    John is stuck on that crap, repetitions,, he thinks it’s annoying someone…lol

    If you could understand the mind of the racist, you will understand the couple halfassed ones on the blog, they are transparent, lacking the skills sets of racists of the past, that is why everything is coming apart at their seams and they are landing in jail.


  3. @vincent haynes at 3:25 PM # re “Unless you have looked a the known history for the past 4000 years as well as conjectured on the archeological findings over milenia you will not understand that this is more than slavery and colour issues”

    You get more confounding daily…. so what am I to understand?

    What can any of this be about other than POWER?…What is there to further understand about slavery and colour issues than that one word?

    When Napoleon was reported to have defaced historical monuments because their resemblance was not Caucasian in description what was that about?

    When all Christian images of our dear heavenly Father resembles so strongly our so loved fair skinned pale face fellow life sojourners, what exactly does the 4000 years of the study of artifacts tell us than that very distinctive POWER play.

    I make no claim to historial expertise but let”s zlxo put this in popular context…what does the portrayal of the Judas of Bible lore as a Black man in film (Jesus Christ Superstar) say about our notions of colour issues and slavery?….what does it bluntly say rather maladroitly about ‘power’, Mr. Vincent.

    Look bro, facts are facts, let’s do away with the BS as if we are 10 year olds.

    White folks have took power around the world and will absolutely not relinquish it simply to appease some notion of our Black rights…why would they?

    So if you want to cook your peleau no problem … the reality is that I am a Black man who is in that cook-up whether I want to or not. I can neither remove myself from my family nor can I remove the colour of my skin… BUT I also will not subsume myself into some la-last land of false narratives and poor revisions of history.


  4. Corrections… zxlo = also, la last = la la


  5. Here is my mediation proposal. Scrap the statues of Nelson AND Barrow.

    Both were very harmful for this island. Some might be shocked and ask, why Tron insults a national hero. Well, I ask: Where is the free tertiary education? GONE. Where is the public security? GONE. Where is the firm financial status? GONE. What about the NIS funds? GONE. Who succeeded Barrow as MoF? Chris Sinckler, exactly. Defending Barrow is defending Sinckler.


  6. Peter

    You asked the question about Wilberforce,

    You raised the link between Nelson and Wilberforce.

    By now you know I will usually provide an answer if I am asked a question.

    Sometimes I am not on the blog for long periods so sometimes if someone asks me a question they won’t get a response.

    I happen to be here for the moment so live with the answer!!

    You don’t even know how Wilberforce thought in 1813 when the statue was erected how you could know what anybody else thought!!!

    Why don’t you name these imagined racists.

    Surely you must know their names.


  7. John,
    You have not said. Did Huguenots settle in Barbados?

  8. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    John, you are being pathetic. I mentioned Wilberforce to prove my point that Nelson fought against abolition of the slave trade as well as against emancipation. My question about street names was rhetorical… everyone knows that the racist plantocracy in Barbados would have slain their firstborn rather than name something in Barbados after Wilberforce. We know exactly how Wilberforce thought in 1813 because he had been writing against the slave trade since 1791.

    There is a question that you have been afraid to answer even though I’ve asked it at least three times so far (I even put it in multiple choice format since you used to be so good at those).

    We have established beyond doubt that this statue was erected by racists to celebrate the life of Lord Nelson, a White supremacist who used his political & military career to promote the enslavement of Black people.

    Why should it stand where it does in Barbados?


  9. John

    Good facts keep them coming and ignoring the ad hominems is an excellent idea……those that take time to read and digest will understand what you are saying.


  10. dpD

    When will you understand that the colour ruse was constructed by the european tribes for you to doubt yourself 700 years ago.

    When will you understand that various tribes coalesce from time to time to rule the known world,prior to the present europeans the african tribes had the known world and shortly the chinese will have it……as Yeats said an endless Gyre.

    Instead of positioning ourselves to lead the world you are in the diaspora making noise about a moment in history which is of no benefit to us now other than a historic marker that we can learn from.

    We too like to get tie up with foolishness.


  11. Defending Barrow is not defending anyone else. That is ludicrous. Barrow would be horrified at recent events in Barbados.


  12. Tron

    Your post has merit also a fact that is over looked is that EWB hated monuments,statues and the cult of hero worship…..his wish would be answered if that statue was removed.


  13. Maybe your are right. Maybe Barrowยดs vision for a better nation were horribly perverted after his death. If it is so, the current DLP should search for another name.


  14. If Barrow was against monuments, he has my favour again. I do not like politicians without vision but lots of medals and badges.

    If Barrow returned to earth, maybe he would feel like Christ or Mohammed …


  15. EWB’s vision went through the eddoes on his death……he was a pragmatist that did not suffer fools gladly……this lot would not have stood a chance with him.


  16. I have not looked at Huguenots at all, never came across them here.

    There is a strong Dutch influence in early Barbados and through that the Jews.

    The Dutch and the Huguenots are linked.

    Holland was a place of refuge for Jews getting out of Spain from 1492.

    It was also a place of refuge for religious dissenters so Quakers and Puritans went there.

    The Dutch link I think is memorialized in Barbados by the names Orange Hill, and Orange Hill Plantation, House of Orange Nassau … there were Dutch families here too … de Hem, Van der Warferen and others.

    Nassau in the Bahamas is another indicator of their presence in the West Indies besides the Dutch Islands.

    https://www.museeprotestant.org/en/notice/le-refuge-huguenot-en-amerique/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartholomew%27s_Day_massacre

    In looking at Huguenots just now I realized for the first time there was a “New France” just as there was a “New England” and a “New Amsterdam”.

    I think the New refers to the putting off of the old and the putting on of the New.

    I suspect that Holland was central because of the Jewish presence and its own progress in the Reformation.

    The translation of the Bible into languages a commoner could understand is what ties the protestants together.

    Until then Latin was the only language allowed and the RC Church enforced this vigorously.

    There is a documentary called the Forbidden Book that is worth watching on YouTube as it gets across just what went into the making of the English Bible.

    To do the translation, the original Hebrew version was used.

    Where else would you go if you wanted Hebrew Scholars to help you with the translation of Hebrew into German, English or any other language but to Holland.

    Central to the Protestant Reformation is the translation of the Bible and you will find the Dutch English and French tied together through it and by extension the New World.

    Out of the persecution arose the need for a New World and it is through Its message and experiences in the New World that Slavery was finally put to bed.

    Our historians are out to lunch.

    It is difficult to research the topic without seeing the guiding Hand of God in world history and the way it changed the heart of man.

    For me it has been and is a revelation, … bare fun to try to understand … and a real challenge to communicate the enjoyment.

    But it is supposed to be that way!!

    … and that’s how I get to the realization that every square inch of Barbados is a World Heritage Site … and I am not joking!!

    … a long winded answer to the Huguenots when I don’t know much about them, and I admit it

    … one I am sure that will drive some people crazy which is not my intention

    … but what the heck

    … if it does it does!!


  17. Where else would you go if you wanted Hebrew Scholars to help you with the translation of Hebrew into German, English or any other language but to Holland.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I should add, Jews had been expelled from England in 1290.

    It wasn’t until 1655 that Cromwell welcomed them back.

    Cromwell was a Puritan, a product of the English Bible.

    During the process of translation from Hebrew to English there would have been no Hebrew Scholars in England hence links with Holland.

    There are two reasons the Jews are God’s Chosen.

    First, they were the keepers of His Word.

    Second, He gave the world his Son through them.

    I never got that until recently.

    Please correct me if I am wrong.

    … and then there is Guttenberg’s invention …. he made the printed Word easily and cheaply available.

    It is amazing to see the steps mankind took and even more amazing to appreciate the guiding Hand.

    The Quakers come out of the Reformation at the very end, 1648, all the pieces were in place and His instruments were sent forth to do His will.

    I am not mad nor am I joking, the timeline supports the assertions I am making.

    If anyone can prove me wrong, go ahead, I am listening ….. at least, for now.

  18. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    “No Slavery. Nobody has any right to make us a slave. We cannot make anyone our slave.”

    This should never be tolerated in Barbados by the majority Black population, not for one more day.


  19. So, who is trying to make you a slave now?

  20. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    John, Vincent et al …..an even shorter version of the list of international human rights that needs to be distributed across the island to deter and dismantle any current practices and further future attempts to institute and reestablish the evil practices of racism and modern day slavery.

    Do I sound like anyone can make me a slave, dont you think they would be the ones at risk of being enslaved by me, if I did not have a sense of respect for ALL humanity and their inalienable human rights.

    Many Bajans are not aware that they have universal human rights that are inalienable and irreversible, ย maybe it’s time for the Black majority population in Barbados to research those rights under universal and international laws and if they realize their rights have been and still are being violated by the two uncaring black governments when they allowed a minority population of people to violate the majority’s rights for the last 50 years for financial gain, the people should know they also have a right do something about it, to expose any violations of their international human rights and seek redress.

    Appendix 5:ย 
    The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (abbreviated)ย 

    Article 1 Right to Equality
    Article 2 Freedom from Discrimination
    Article 3 Right to Life, Liberty, Personal Security
    Article 4 Freedom from Slavery
    Article 5 Freedom from Torture and Degrading Treatment
    Article 6 Right to Recognition as a Person before the Law
    Article 7 Right to Equality before the Law
    Article 8 Right to Remedy by Competent Tribunal
    Article 9 Freedom from Arbitrary Arrest and Exile
    Article 10 Right to Fair Public Hearing
    Article 11 Right to be Considered Innocent until Proven Guilty
    Article 12 Freedom from Interference with Privacy, Family, Home and Correspondence
    Article 13 Right to Free Movement in and out of the Country
    Article 14 Right to Asylum in other Countries from Persecution
    Article 15 Right to a Nationality and the Freedom to Change It
    Article 16 Right to Marriage and Family
    Article 17 Right to Own Property
    Article 18 Freedom of Belief and Religion
    Article 19 Freedom of Opinion and Information
    Article 20 Right of Peaceful Assembly and Association
    Article 21 Right to Participate in Government and in Free Elections
    Article 22 Right to Social Security
    Article 23 Right to Desirable Work and to Join Trade Unions
    Article 24 Right to Rest and Leisure
    Article 25 Right to Adequate Living Standard
    Article 26 Right to Education
    Article 27 Right to Participate in the Cultural Life of Community
    Article 28 Right to a Social Order that Articulates this Document
    Article 29 Community Duties Essential to Free and Full Development
    Article 30 Freedom from State or Personal Interference in the above Rights

  21. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    While yall were sleeping …I been busy.

  22. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Hey….can yall now see, appreciate and respect the ball that shot Nelson.

    Well I hope Bizzy, Bjerkham, Maloney, Cow, Tempro and all the racist wannabe slave masters on the island does too.


  23. WW&C

    Hmmmm…..all jokes aside…..can you get one of the family to carry you to a clinic wherever in the world you are and get some medical help for your condition as I am seeing a marked deterioration in your mental stability and would hate to see you institutionalised.


  24. The amount of time that Hilary Beckles spends on this trivia suggests to me that he definitely could not be doing the job that he gets paid to do at UWI properly. Put down the rear view mirror and get on with your life.

  25. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Vincent…speak for thyself….stop trying to project ya own mental illness onto me or I will set a majority population of over 200,000 angry people on you and your ilk….so don’t test me….

    Doubt me, well watch.


  26. Barbados’ Settlement

    Between 300AD and 1200AD Barbados’ inhabitants were the Arawak Indians. They were driven off the island by invading Carib Indians from Venezuela, who then left Barbados around the time the first Europeans sailed into the region. By the early 1500s all signs of Amerindian life had vanished.
    In 1536 Portuguese explorer Pedro a Campos stopped over in Barbados en route to Brazil and named the island ‘Los Barbados’ – the bearded ones, presumably after the island’s fig trees, with there long hanging aerial roots. (A beard-like resemblance)

    Although known to the Portuguese and Spanish, the British were the first settlers in 1625. Captain John Powell landed on Barbados with his crew and claimed the uninhabited island for England. Two years later, his brother Captain Henry Powell landed with a party of 80 settlers and 10 African slaves. The group established the island’s first European settlement, Jamestown, on the western coast at what is now Holetown. They were welcomed only by a herd of Portuguese Hogs thought to be left there by Campos whose intention was to use them as food on return voyages.

    When Slavery Began

    The Slave History of Barbados started after Captain Powell brought the 10 slaves in 1627. The slave population in 1629 was still diminutive with not more than 50 Amerindian and African slaves working the land, in construction and in homes. This low slave population was due to few persons being able to buy slaves at that time.
    Slaves brought into Barbados came from various tribes out of the forest region of West Africa, during village raids. Some of the African tribes were Eboes, Paw-paws and Igbo. They came via slave trade forts on the African west coast, set up by Europeans. Such forts were the Axim and El Mina. After being traded for trinkets, the slaves were sent to the Caribbean and sold to Plantation owners.
    In 1636, officials passed a law declaring all slaves brought into Barbados, whether African or Amerindian were to be enslaved for life. It was later extended to include their off springs. At this time there were only 22 free coloured persons on the island.

    During the 1700s, the main source of labour for cotton and tobacco was indentured servants from Europe, while Amerindians from the Guianas were imported to teach agriculture. As the cotton and tobacco industry started to fail because of the lack of labour, due to terrible conditions for indentured servants, the sugar industry emerged. Sugar in Barbados at that time was used only for feedstock, as fuel and in the production of rum.

    Why Slaves From Africa?

    Due to the demand for a strong labour force after the Sugar Revolution took place, Africa became the obvious choice for slaves, because they were strong and Africa was closer than Europe to the Caribbean. Slave ships also travelled faster because they were assisted by the Tradewinds blowing towards the west.
    The Triangle Trade

    This included the slave trade and was the link between Europe, West Africa and the Americas. The ships left Western Europe filled with guns and manufactured goods towards West Africa to be exchanged for slaves who were taken to Barbados and other Caribbean islands to be sold for sugar (called the Middle Passage), which was shipped to Europe.
    Plantocracy

    In 1642, Barbados planters found a new source of revenue when the Dutch introduced them to sugar cane farming. By mid 1600’s sugar cane plantations were producing and exporting sugar, attracting wealthy landowners with political affiliations. Enhancing the islands plantocracy, this new emergence of elite planters excluded poor whites and non-whites from Barbados’ political infrastructure. The island soon gained the largest white population of any of the English colonies in the Americas, becoming the springboard for English colonisation in the Americas.
    As the cost of white labour rose in England, more slaves were imported from West Africa, especially the Gold Coast and by extension more black slaves were brought to Barbados. The main groups of slaves imported were from Ibibio, Yoruba, Lgbo and Efik, as well as Asante, Fante, Ga and Fon. By mid 1600’s there was over 5600 black African slaves in Barbados and by early 1800,s over 385,000. The constant importation of slaves was caused by the high mortality rate, due to bad conditions and overwork. By the 1700’s, Barbados was one of the leaders in the slave trade from the European colonies.

    During the 1800’s, the elite were building elaborate estates like Drax Hall and St. Nicholas Abbey, which still exist, while controlling the House of Assembly and the Legislative Council. They encouraged slave reproduction to avoid more importations of slaves, becoming the only island in the British Caribbean no longer dependent on slave imports.

    The Colour Shift
    During the 1700’s to 1800’s, Barbados shifted from a majority white population to majority black. This caused tension on the island as white indentured servants became unsure of their place, and plantation owners were afraid of slave rebellion, eventually causing most of them to leave. By the beginning of the 1800’s the majority of blacks in Barbados were born locally, with a high percentage of Creole born blacks, as opposed to Africans. This enabled the black population to reproduce itself, rather than rely on new imports from Africa to maintain population levels.

    Regulating the Slaves
    Due to the unrest, the laws regulating the slaves were strongly enforced. By the 1800’s, there were laws prohibiting slaves from leaving their plantations without permission and stopping them from beating drums or any other instruments used by slaves to communicate with each other. There were also laws requiring the return of runaway slaves and leniency for those killing slaves.

    The Slave Rebellions

    During the 1600’s, there were (3) unsuccessful rebellions in Barbados; 1649, 1675 and 1692.
    The First Slave Rebellion (1649)
    This included two plantations, and the trigger was insufficient food. It was quickly subdued with not much damage.

    The Second Slave Rebellion (1675)
    This one was island-wide and took over three years to plan but was uncovered when a one of the slaves named Fortuna leaked the information out. Over 100 slaves were arrested and tortured, while over 40 were executed after being found guilty of rebellion. Some committed suicide before being executed, while others were beheaded or burnt alive.

    The Third Slave Rebellion (1692)
    This was also island-wide with over 200 slaves arrested and over 90 executed after being found guilty of rebellion.

    Rebellions simmered in Barbados until 1816 due to an increase in free blacks and slaves born on the island (called Creole Slaves), there were also more frequent visits to the island by British Military Ships for supplies and a colonial militia which was becoming more powerful during the 1800’s.

    Creole Slaves were believed to be more submissive than African born slave and therefore were placed over the Africans.

    The Bussa Rebellion (The Easter Rebellion – Sun 14th April 1816)
    During the 1816 rebellion more than 800 slaves were killed while fighting and over 100 executed. This was the first rebellion of this size in Barbados and the Caribbean, and took part for (3) days on the southern part of the island. This rebellion caused reform to ease the hardships of slavery.

    In 1825 the ‘Amelioration Policy’ was changed to ‘the Consolidated Slave Law’ legislation (The Emancipation Act) which consist of (3) Rights for Slaves; The right to own property / The right to testify in all court cases / Reduction of fees charged for Manumission (a fee charged to slaveowners for emancipating their slaves).

    Emancipation – Slave Freedom

    During the eighteenth century, although quite small, there were some freed slaves most of whom worked as tradesmen but could not vote. Because of racial discrimination many freed slaves tended to gravitate towards the British culture and its white supremacy to fit in, separating themselves from other slaves.
    In 1807 the International Slave Trade was abolished giving slaves in Barbados hope of freedom, but abolitionist missionaries and antislavery debates seemed to hinder the process, ultimately causing the 1816 Revolt by Bussa of Bayley’s Plantation. Bussa is now one of Barbados’ National heroes with the Emancipation Statue being erected in his memory.

    By 1834 slavery was abolished in all the territories of British rule. This was mainly due to the Consolidated Slave Law (The Emancipation Act) and (3) major uprisings; Bussa Rebellion (Barbados – 1816) / Demerara Revolt (now Guyana – 1823) / Jamaica Revolt (1832). Because of the instability within the Caribbean, the British Parliament was forced to emancipate over 80,000 slaves at this time.

    Apprenticeships for freed slaves were then introduced under labour contracts as indentured servants. In Barbados Indentured Servants could not join the islands educational systems, and labour contracts were for (12) years, making it the longest in the Caribbean, as well as being paid the lowest wages in the region. Some worked (45) hour weeks without pay in exchange for accommodations in tiny huts.

    In 1838 the Masters and Servant Act (Contract Law) made discrimination against persons of colour in Barbados illegal.


  27. Peter Lawrence Thompson – what a mouthful. Surely as an embittered negro you should change your name to something suitably effnic, rather than suffer under the white man’s nomenclature a moment longer? Another thing that puzzles me is why you all have to have double-barrelled names…is it to indicate superiority, or is it a shot in the dark (no pun intended) to indicate who wunna daddy might be?


  28. Another thing that puzzles me is why you all have to have double-barreled namesโ€ฆis it to indicate superiority, or is it a shot in the dark (no pun intended) to indicate who wanna daddy might be?

    @45govt, Lawrence is his middle name, doofus. What’s yours?

  29. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Oooooohhhhhh…PLT… someone is having a bad morning..lol

    “In 1838 the Masters and Servant Act (Contract Law) made discrimination against persons of colour in Barbados illegal.”

    But for reasons of corruption, bribery and evil, that law is never enforced by the BLACK governments in Barbados….and there are no more “masters and servants”…under international law, that term is illegal and should be removed, it’s employer and employee…

    ….. if the 2 governments had not been so busy with corruption. ..and bribery.,,they would have removed that distasteful, degrading abd demeaning term.


  30. During the 1700โ€™s to 1800โ€™s, Barbados shifted from a majority white population to majority black.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Factually incorrect , by census of the 1680’s the ratio was more than 2 to 1.

    Who wrote this nonsense?


  31. Please show me I am wrong.


  32. Bushie

    It is amazing how long dead slave masters could have their modern day slaves walking around, thinking like them, for them, as them

    Indeed, the promise of eternal life, by their book, has been achieved by them – the slave masters.

    There is proof of this here, on BU. That proof has made the concept of eternal life a reality for the slave masters.

    Though dead, they yet live through these slaves

    Slaves who are even more adamant about the rightness, even righteousness, of the wicked than the slave master himself held

    It matters not to these slaves that they are in full actor’s roll, names and all

    Such artificial personalities can only outlive a singular type of theatre

    The drama which was first given life to by their ancestors, the slave masters

    Massa can’t dead!


  33. Check Ligon, 1647-49, page 46.

    Even then the ratio was 2 to 1


  34. It is amazing how long dead slave masters could have their modern day slaves walking around,
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I will have to have a stern talk with these dead slave masters and let them know slavery ended in 1833/34 and the modern day slaves want to be freed.

    I am sure they will listen to me, I will go down Cattlewash and straighten them out post haste!!

  35. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    “Such artificial personalities can only outlive a singular type of theatre

    The drama which was first given life to by their ancestors, the slave masters

    Massa canโ€™t dead!”

    A singular type of evil…

    The slaves ofthe dead, because that is what they are, are condemned to reveal themselves and walk in darkness.


  36. Creole Slaves were believed to be more submissive than African born slave and therefore were placed over the Africans
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The year after the 1816 uprising, the slave returns Schomurgk quotes from show there were 71.432 creoles or born in Barbados – 345 were Creoles born in other islands, and 5,496 Africans.

    No wonder the 5,496 African slaves had such a rough time, there were about 66,000 Creoles placed over them, besides their master,

    Who wrote this rubbish?

    You see the insidious attempt to divide today.


  37. Hants

    By mid 1600โ€™s there was over 5600 black African slaves in Barbados and by early 1800,s over 385,000
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This is utter rot, contradicted by hard evidence!!

    Who wrote the material you posted?


  38. In 1807 the International Slave Trade was abolished giving slaves in Barbados hope of freedom, but abolitionist missionaries and antislavery debates seemed to hinder the process, ultimately causing the 1816 Revolt by Bussa of Bayleyโ€™s Plantation.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It gets even more pathetic!!


  39. http://www.funbarbados.com/ourisland/history/slavery.cfm

    Ok, I found it.

    It is promotional material on the web encouraging tourists to come to Barbados!!!!


  40. None of us lived in the days of the transatlantic slave trade nor lived the plantation massa/slave life.

    It happened,it created us,we have through our forefathers educated ourselves along the european western lines.

    None of us can change it or ourselves from who and what we are or where we came from nor the genes we posses.

    All we know is what mainly european tribesmen have written and here is where the folly begins by interpretation and re interpretation that does not advance any sort of discussion on the issue.

    Facts that we know are that Bim had a slave/master plantation culture that heavily depended on slave labour and to a lesser extent on indentured labour.

    Interesting to note that without concrete facts on the exercise of laws,the system of governance,cruelty and brutality we have extrapolated from recorded happenings in North America how life in Bim was despite suggestions to the contrary.

    A country going to wreck and ruin and we arguing over foolishness…..let history be our guide not our master…….let the dead bury the dead……the living must move on.


  41. Vincent Haynes

    Yours is the quintessential Bajan response. We would guess that our last post hit a nerve or that you believe that you have some White blood in your veins which must be protected at all costs.

    The problem is that it is impossible to move on as you so flippantly suggest.

    Recent studies elsewhere have cited Afrikan peoples, in Afrika and the diaspora, as being in no better condition than more than a hundred years ago as far as relative wealth is concerned and as a direct result of colonialism, slavery, neo-colonialism, capitalism – all meaning the same thing.

    Margaret Kimberley has recently noted this. The eminent American professional historian, Profession Gerald Horne, in a recent seminar, drew a direct line between the epoch which started 400 years ago and the politics of the Trump era.

    Have you ever wondered how it could be possible for Trump, who like his father, was always an avowt racist to became president of the USA in 2017. But this is not about Trump or you. It is about a system of White supremacy which will not go away by no amount of wishing and hoping by people with man-in-the-street mentalities.

    More deeply, after all the efforts of Afrikan peoples to fight against the above 4 horsemen of our apocalypse that White people, and their Black lackeys, could still be able to breathe renewed life into racism as an institutional construction.

    Systems come and systems go, but why can this particular one continue to transcend time for 400 years. Could this be merely accidental?

    Now what can these tell us. They can tell sentient beings that there was never a critical break in the system of the White supremacist acili running our world.


  42. Pachamama September 25, 2017 at 1:28 PM #

    Hmm….interesting post……I do not recall any of your posts striking a chord,obviously mine has, to elicit this response from you.

    Correction I am not a born Bimmer,for which I am eternally greatfull for as I was not born with that yoke on my back that a lot of you born Bimmers carry of white supremacy and class distinctions.

    Freud and Jung really came into their own during the 20th and now the 21st centuries for people like you that need a trumped up name for some imagined neurosis.

    One who prides themselves on a holistic world view you more so than any one else should know that the human race as constructed now, is divided in many ethnic groupings who over time have travelled many times all over Mother Earth and blended,reblended,subjugated,raped and pillaged each other.

    Each Empire falls and the European tribes one which came after the African tribes one of 800 years, is coming to its close after around 700 years with more than likely the advent of the tribes out of China forming the next one.

    As the world moves on you and others will continue to be tied up by myopia over your european tribal cousins….enjoy.


  43. Sometime ago I referred to the gross incompetence in the Registrar’s department – failure to list cases, etc. Now some couples seeking copies of marriage certificates are having difficulty because of this monumental incompetence.
    I suggest that activists looking to locate one of the root causes of our decline should look at the court system. Incompetent lawyers, incompetent justice.


  44. Primates are an evolutionary peg above Trump.
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  45. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Vincent…shut up…ya did not live 4,000 years ago either and yesterday ya wanted everone to look back there if they wanted “to understand”……..whatever nonsense ya had in mind…

    ……400 years is even closer to the present than 4,000 years…damn old fool.

    Deal with the international human rights of the majority population on the island.

    Ya lucky you weren’t standing next to me this morning when telling me that crap, I was well strapped and would have slapped ya with my 9.


  46. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. September 25, 2017 at 1:57 PM #

    You had you doctors visit yet…….if so take the meds.

  47. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Dont mind him…he is a slave to dead white europeans slave masters, banished to walk in darkness eternally, always looking to tief labor…or justify evil.

    Last year Vincent was in UK, blogging from there, some crap happened while he was there, can’t remember if it was brexit or some other nonsense, believe it was….now I am tapped into UK more than Vincent could ever be or understand, yet he is telling me, he can’t discuss that with me. ..I had to ask him if he saw too many white people in the UK and it turned him stupid.

    That is what ya dealing with, the imp of dead slave masters who always longed to be white, but could only ever see darkness….and whose job it is to forever try to justify it.


  48. Vincent Haynes

    Those notions that we are all guilty because all races have done the same kinds of things, including institutional racism et al, is misguided and only serves to appease White people.

    It’s a lie!

    This is why we would prefer to depend on the works of professionals in the social sciences/humanities than on the limited man-in-the-streets approach.

    For it is often wrong.

    The truth is that the events which started 1450 AD (circa) and continue to this day, having been birthed for 1000 years – in the Dark Ages – represents a departure from anything which ever happened before on earth.

    Before the 1450’s there was never a global system of chattel slavery anywhere in our worlds.

    Indeed, until you come to recognize what all social scientists see as ‘a point of departure’ no sense can be made of this.


  49. Well Well

    Thanks

    But how could there be so many Vincents, everywhere.

    We mistakenly assumed that in an information age idiots would disappear, no!

    Jesus Christ man

    The White man’s job has been well complete.

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