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Marla Dukharan – Economist

It is the opinion of BU the resonance of economist Marla Dukharanโ€™s with the local population is not because she brings any fresh analysis to the fore. The reason is because she is perceived as an independent voice to be trusted. Her lucid commentary on local and regional economies which started when she was Chief Economist for the RBC with responsibility for the Caribbean has exposed a growing belief that several of the home grown economists have allowed themselves to become compromised by the lure of lucre from the political and economic class.

On the 23 August 2017 the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Barbados (ICAB) hosted a session which featured Marla Dukaran as the main speaker, the topic was Home Grown or IMF: What should Barbadosโ€™ economic recovery plan look like? From all reports it was a constructive session that served to reinforce the view among the professional class present decisions being taken by the government will not steer the country away from the economic precipice we continue to rapidly approach.

To give wings to the view that the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) appears to be focussed on the political dimension to how we manage a tiny island is to review the agenda and resolutions passed at the just concluded DLP annual convention. Two items carried in a resolution was for the political party- that forms the government by the way- to issue a communication to Attorney General Adriel Brathwaite to investigate the qualification (or lack of) of Mia Mottley to practice law in Barbados AND the use of wire tapping equipment by former Commissioner of Police Darwin Toppin supported by you guessed it, Mia Mottley.ย  Sensible Barbadians are left to wonder why has it taken the DLP until the end of its second term to force these two issues to earlier resolution. BUโ€™s position is not to defend Mottley or Dottin of wrong doing, it is to find the government guilty for politicising the matter IF there is credible evidence to support the charges. Didn’t Prime Minister Freundel Stuart promise to share the contents of the FBI file that has mysteriously disappeared? What about his reference to a list of CLICO investors he also promised to release? #JAs

To the credit of ICAB they brought in Marla Dukharan to focus on an anaemic performing economy while the entity charged with managing the economy took a decision at its annual conference to focus on issues not related to the economy. What the juxtaposition shows is that in civil society the citizenry, this includes Non Governmental Organizations (NGO), must continue to find ways to inform the public so that tension is brought to bear on policymakers to make the best decisions in the interest of the wider public.

What did Caribbean Economist Marla Dukharan remind us?

  • Barbados has been recording fiscal deficits averaging 5.4% in the period 2000 to 2017. It spiked to 10.4% in the fiscal 2013/14 and as dipped to 6% in 2017/18 on last report. In stark contrast for the same period growth has averaged 1.1% with a -0.1% decline in 2013/14 easing up to 1.6% growth in the current period. The point Dukharan emphasized is why with the billions in government sending it did not significantly move the growth indicator.
  • Barbados recorded the lowest fiscal multiplier compared to five other major Caribbean economies i.e..Jamaica, Trinidad, Guyana, Suriname and Bahamas.ย  The fiscal multiplier is defined as the growth generated based on government spend.
  • Debt sustainability threshold is noted at 55/60% of GDP. The analysis supports that a greater number has a negative impact on growth. It is a matter of record that Barbados debt to GDP is far north of 100%.
  • The monetary base has increased to almost 5 times, close to 5 billion from 2000 to 2017. The will obviously stress foreign reserves given the islandโ€™s high conspicuous consumption fueled by imports. The proof is in the fact foreign reserves of abut 300 million in 2017 are at 2000 level.

The solution can be linked to the expression offered by Mara Dukharan, Barbados will have to pick its poison. And it does not matter if DLP or BLP wins the next government.


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99 responses to “Economist Marla Dukharan’s Advice to Barbados, ‘Pick Your Poison’”

  1. Bajan Free Party/CUP-PCP.Violet Beckles Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZI Avatar
    Bajan Free Party/CUP-PCP.Violet Beckles Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZI

    We , I told you this many years ago, until the Massive land fraud and PONZI of CLICO is cured nothing will work for Barbados, internal laundering of bank money and land will not fool people out side,, Minister up to the PM AG, MOF are crooks liars and scumbags.

    Most of the world is being nice by not calling names, You All will soon learn ,


  2. @ David,

    She has an advantage over our Bajan economist.

    Bajans prefer to listen to foreigners. It helps that she is eye candy for some of us. lol

    “She was Chief Economist for the RBC with responsibility for the Caribbean.”

    Royal Bank of Canada (RY on TSX and NYSE) today reported net income of $2,809 million for the second quarter ended April 30, 2017, up $236 million or 9% from a year ago


  3. David

    It must have some importance to locate what this economist says within the failures of western economic theory and practice to deliver for the majority of the peoples of the world.

    Indeed, since the western economy model has gained dominance the majority of the peoples of the world have been driven into deeper and deeper privations.

    Now some chadian jackass is going to asking where the proof is which supports this conclusion.

    It is all around you!

    So what we have is an economist who maybe correctly diagnosing ills. The problem is that the patient, the peoples of the earth, have been dying in our millions for decades while her medicine was working perfectly well on the body politic. It is curing the disease by killing the patient!

    Where are the critiques of the structures of capitalism that were bound to lead us here? And if these favoured voices had nothing to say about those fundamental distortions why should we give a raassssssoul about what they have to say now?

    Indeed there are generations of Caribbean academicians, public intellectuals and economic practitioners who have spoken/written about this substantial critique but in none of these present day discourses do we hear their names. As if we were born yesterday.

    Our deeper point is that we must stop paying homage to people because we may like them or agree with their general or specific argumentation when in truth and in fact these fuuuckers are killing us softly with their music.

  4. NorthernObserver Avatar

    What is most surprising is Dukharan left, what appeared to be a safe career with RBC, to jump on the Block Chain based Bitt Int’l. Would be interesting to know what “currency” her remuneration is in. Based on her knowledge, surely she isn’t accepting $Bds.


  5. @ NorthernObserver September 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM #

    I’ve wondered the same about the MOVE, BLOCK CHAIN Bitt maybe the latest iteration of a CLICO identity to SCAM/BILK the public out of their hard earned $’s, or maybe to launder money. Dukharans move is highly suspicious or downright STUPID. Her future credit-ability will no doubt come into question because of the move.

    Only time will tell.


  6. @Pacha

    Have no problem with your feedback. The challenge is for Barbadians and wider Caribbean to ditch the traditional mindset and shift to tactics to drive a response to a new normal. We have to accept what it is first. This is where Marla can help to provoke discussion -to somewhere.


  7. We look back at ten years of devastation:

    the bloated, inefficient public service
    the lack of speedy judiciary
    the lack of up to date statutes on offshore financial law
    the bad reputation of the local management of finances after nearly twenty downgrades
    the lack of any economic growth, compared to 2008
    the inability to borrow foreign currency other than IMF
    the looming devaluation
    the usage of NIS as Sincklerยดs ATM
    higher taxes every year, resulting in the highest prices for food and goods in the region
    the most expensive tourist destination in the Caribbean
    the lack of any innovation in tourism
    the permanent drug war
    the demotivated work force
    the brain drain to other countries
    the difficulties of tertiary eduction
    the many public announcements without result (Cahill, Barbados as Republic etc)
    the bad condition of the roads

    No medicine is strong enough to cure the country in short time.


  8. @NorthernObserver and Wily Coyote

    Do you guys know what is the ‘heft’ of Bitt Inc’s balance sheet?

    Do you know if Marla even needs to work a 9 to 5 job?

    https://www.bitt.com/

    https://www.bitt.com/fees

  9. NorthernObserver Avatar

    @WC
    Today, we tend to associate Blockchain (a technology) with crypto currency. Yet the basis behind Blockchain, which is above my paygrade, opens the door for a whole new internet where digital information can be distributed without being copied. The guessing game is what industry(s) can commercialize and use this.
    What is impressive, is for something still relatively unknown, and not generating huge revenue, it is attracting huge investment and smart people (who have choices).

  10. NorthernObserver Avatar

    @David
    I haven’t a clue if MD needs to work or anything about Bitt’s financial condition. Yet MD saw “something” in her current position, she didn’t see in her prior one? And what I do know is she is intelligent.


  11. And David you are suggesting that somebody who runs a blockchain can have something valuable to say.

    Well, if you don’t know, a BC in financial terms is some amalgamation of the emerging crypto currencies, public transactions, technology etc.

    About these we need to be very careful still. Like you were when many years ago we suggested this idea.

    To date there are no signs that this ‘new money’ is any more secure than fiat currency despite unquestioned growth.

    In fact, there are those who argue that crypto currencies are worse than paper money in many ways

    There can be no cure for our condition unless rooted in real money.

    Real money can only be gold, silver and some items of food.

    It is the ‘printing’ of fiat money which has created the national debt you oftentimes worry about. And crypto currencies are an extension of this.


  12. Now we have heard from Marla. But a question still remains opened and unanswered by Mia and the opposition
    What remedies does the leader of the opposition have for barbados economy
    Needless to say that the learned economist has economic problems in her beloved Trinidad which she should first take care of rather than meddle in the affairs of barbados
    What business is it of Marla anyway
    Certainly she can use her precious knoweldge to save Trinidad economy an economy inspite of its oil fields have felt the dreaded knife of the international rating agencies several times resulting in down grades.
    But then again the question which ought to be asked of her is why would her country govt not listen to her advice


  13. @Pacha

    She is an economist by training and she had plotted Barbados’ performance on graphs and delivered in crystal clear language where we stand as a country, note BU did not list her prescription despite what the braying jackass just posted.


  14. “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
    “To talk of many things:
    Of shoes–and ships–and sealing-wax–
    Of cabbages–and kings–
    And why the sea is boiling hot–
    And whether pigs have wings.”

    “But wait a bit,” the Oysters cried,
    “Before we have our chat;
    For some of us are out of breath,
    And all of us are fat!”
    “No hurry!” said the Carpenter.
    They thanked him much for that.

                           Through the Looking Glass (Lewis Carroll)
    

  15. @ David September 9, 2017 at 5:07 PM #

    Do not know what MD personal finances are, however do know about BITT. Do some checking yourself on BItt and it’s financer, then we’ll talk.

  16. NorthernObserver Avatar

    @AS
    “What remedies does the leader of the opposition have for barbados economy”
    Remedies? By asking for a remedy you are suggesting something is wrong? The PM you support has “rubbished” and refused to alter any course he and his cohorts have set. Why change? I would offer the unions a 15% increase, remove the NSRL and call and request we print more money.


  17. The school children of Barbados really need a break. Barbadians, especially teachers, need to stop being used to their own disadvantage – http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/100355/tension. Perform at your job, get positive results in the class rooms during school hours and then make demands.

  18. Hog Plum aka waiting Avatar
    Hog Plum aka waiting

    Jesus H. Christ the crazy trini economist talking out her ass again. She runs her mouth faster than Jeremy Stephens . Like him its doom and gloom from her not a glimmer of hope or a solution. Her prophecies sound like wild exaggerations and untrue.

    What lucid commentary is she bringing yardfowl BU David? Kellmannomics more convincing than her fairy tales.

    When Branford Taitt was Minister of Health a foreign doctor attached to QEH boldly said most Bajans would die of AIDS long before year 2000. Taitt swiftly kicked him off the island. Last night on TV a local AIDS expert speculated Barbados should be AIDS free in the next decade.

    The Marla b***h in the same box as the head case doctor Branford Taitt booted out. She, Jeremy Stephens and another foreigner Tennyson Joseph are given way too much publicity by our lazy media. That threesome is a motley crew of attention hoes and drama queens.


  19. Hog Plum is aka waiting otherwise known as a DLP yardfowl.


  20. @David. Most of that fiscal deficit average accumulated between (2007 -2017). I stopped listen to the pundits about forex reserve and devaluation . Over ten years of prediction about imminent devaluation to no avail. Either the information about forex reserve decline, base money expansion , … is bogus or Barbados economy doesn’t follow general economic principle.


  21. @fortyacresandamule

    The question is why should it be a mystery in a country burdened with homegrown economists and an established Central Bank where a repository of data exist?


  22. @Pacha. Excellent analysis of a more larger fundamental problem. An economic system that distribute to less than .1% of the population , wealth equivalent to the bottom 80% of the population needs serious correction. It calls into question the age old assumption about resource scarity.

  23. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Wily Coyote,
    The move of Marla Dukharan to BITT from Royal Bank is neither mysterious nor stupid. It is rather obvious. Young Abed and his colleagues at BITT are trying to innovate in the Blockchain space in a way that would connect it to the “normal” banking system and solve our derisking problem. They have US$50 million in venture capital but little credibility; they have never actually shipped a product. Dukharan was highly visible at her Royal Bank role, but visibility alone does not bring with it very high compensation. Bank CEOs are never hired from the ranks of economists, no matter how photogenic or famous; she had risen as high as she ever was going to at Royal Bank, she was at a dead end. So what were her choices? Politics? Perhaps. Another private sector bank? Not likely, she’s “branded” as Royal.

    At BITT she undoubtedly gets a salary increase in US$ payed out of their war chest, plus almost certainly an equity share of the company. If the company tanks, nobody will blame her, but if it takes off she will be as rich as Croesus. BITT gets an interesting injection of credibility when they are negotiating with the banks and central banks that are integral to the realization of their vision, and on top of that they get millions of dollars in free publicity because we can’t stop looking at, or talking about, Marla Dukharan.

  24. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    It is young Abed’s best business move to date. He’s much smarter than his dad, although that is not a high hurdle.


  25. @PLT
    the last time (that I saw) you fired an arrow across at a father, the recipient shut down the conversation. I appreciate because of family connections there was possibly a history beyond that. So why zing an arrow at Abed? None of us can be responsible for the actions of another family member, or their abilities.

  26. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Let’s see Fruendel and his gang try to lie their way out of this one..lol

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/100391/barbados-amber-alert

    “PREEMINENT INSURANCE RATING agency A.M. Best is one step away from raising a red flag on Barbados. The SUNDAY SUN confirmed that the United States-based entity has issued a new Barbados Country Risk Report in which it raised concern about Barbadosโ€™ โ€œhighโ€ economic and financial risk. A.M. Best has ascribed a country risk tier (CRT) of… “

  27. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    BITT could hire 12 Dukharans…I would not trust any of their products, particularly as it relates to currency, digital or otherwise……particularly because of their shady US backers and more particularly because of that Abed involvement and other very shady minorities’ connection to the company.

    They are all trying to monopolize a strangle hold on the populations’ finances and use Barbados as the clearing house to get a strangle hold on the Caribbean’s people finances, not to mention their already well known, decades old illegal criminal activities throughout the Caribbean.

    It is a nasty scam devised to enslave the whole Caribbean by controlling their money.


  28. peterlawrencethompson September 9, 2017 at 10:36 PM #

    Correct, further, look at Royal’s recent actions in the Caribbean, a lot of sub entities have shut or decreased in size. Maybe Marla made a wiser decision than Wily / Northern assume? Maybe more in the mortar?


  29. @Crusoe

    The other scenario is that MD was made redundant and or offered a package because the guys in Canada see no benefit to having a regional economist.


  30. If the current monetary system in Barbados is maintained, except that it is made 100% electronic, where everyone must have a bank card and there is no cash, what other improvements could Bitt or similar operations add to it?


  31. Marla Dukaran – M D

    Is reallly ….Mia Dildo

    Nothing more nothing less !

    A useless ….projectile !

    She PROJECTS ……Devaluation !!! – no such thing happens !!

    She PROJECTS…….Economic Collapse – no such thing happens !!

    Idiato !!!!


  32. David of BU

    I am not surprised the pending wire tapping story has caught your attention .

    A question for you in the interim :

    โ€ข Have you and Dr. George Belle returned the millions of $$$$ you scammed from UWI for that ‘ failed ‘ research project ???


  33. Angela Skeete

    is spewing her usual rhetorical political diatribe.

    She should be asking the bombastic Christopher Sinckler โ€œwhat remedies he has for the Barbados economy,โ€ because all of his economic policies have failed to achieve the desired objectives and he is unwilling to take advice, as evidenced by the โ€œtongue lashingโ€ he gave Marla Dukharan, Jeremy Stephen and all the other economists whose opinions differ from his.

    The electorate is not going to judge the performance of the Barbados economy by if Mottley presents policies or not.

    They will use the 19 consecutive credit rating downgrades, failed economic policies and a minister of finance who has been an abysmal failure, as the basis to form their opinion.


  34. Why are the police being so slow to announce the identity of the white male found dead at Malvern, St. George?

    Only reason I can think of is that some big-ups get caught-up, lol.


  35. Grenboy,
    Either politics or incompetence. Have they thought of bringing in Scotland Yard, the Mounties or FBI to assist? Have they thought of informing Interpol? What is the problem?


  36. Hal

    The man and his bajan partner(s) did importing knock-down (maybe stolen) vehicles from the UK, avoiding duty and selling them at the ‘market price’ on a cash-only basis. Cash-only would relegate them to looking for customers in the following fields
    1. Politics
    2. Drug Dealing
    3. Money Laudering

  37. millertheanunnaki Avatar

    @ Hal Austin September 10, 2017 at 9:13 AM

    Now you see the gravamen of the problem when it comes to the Rule of Law in the fast ripening banana republic called โ€œBadbadosโ€?

    The same problem there is with your Greenverbs and CLICO. But this one cannot be blamed on some “Failure” in the regulatory system as your usual wont but one of โ€˜who is whoโ€™ in this game of political protection. And more importantly there is no โ€œGuyana-born DPPโ€ to place impediments in the way of Law as you have opined on previous occasions.

    You should ask yourself who has bosom pals in high places just like your man Greenverbs; or even Bjerkham the blind gunslinger in the โ€˜child-killingโ€™ play of cowboy and crook; or Baloney the fearless highway lawbreaker of motor child-slaughter; or even the Honourable Speaking’ sophisticated mugger of a pensioner in a wheel chair who was advised to get a lawyer instead of a banker by the very person who should be not only the moral compass of the nation but the person sworn to both Queen & Constitution to uphold the law both in word (letter) and in spirit.

  38. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    “Only reason I can think of is that some big-ups get caught-up, lol.”

    And then some, there is a whole criminal network to investigate, both local and foreign, because of that murder, those in the know are saying……and apparently it’s not just the boys on the block with their stupidity involved and being looked at,….either……

    Lol, lol……Miller…

    According to some the size of that particular criminal network is extensive and forced international police to be physically present on the island…..hopefully the foolish ministers try to interfere..lol

    We have been hoping for enough time that the secretive, organized criminal network on the island be exposed, looks like it’s getting there…let’s see how many they snare.


  39. Jethro,
    Have you ever thought of incompetence, is it corruption all the time? May be they have not identified the man because they do not know what they are doing.
    If the England-born deceased had a ‘Bajan’ partner, then she should be able to identify the dead man. What about officials in his home town? What about the British high commission? Have they searched his home? Have they found his passport and other identifying documents?
    What I find rather curious is that the British high commission has not intervened, nor have the dead man’s British relatives asked for Foreign and Commonwealth Office assistance.
    I think incompetence outsmarts corruption every time, as you insist.

  40. millertheanunnaki Avatar

    @ Hal Austin September 10, 2017 at 10:32 AM

    Go(o)d(n)ess Gracious! Or, to use the modern social media virtual equivalent, โ€œLOLโ€.
    Incompetence my donkey clothed in my dear auntie’s panties!

    Wield and come again.

    This is the same cohort of highly-educated University graduates who after a stint of overseas training are large and in charge of the organs which grind the wheels of law and order after being oiled by the moral siphons commonsense and fairness.

    How come Bim can produce the likes of Lord you and Baron Bushie to see right from wrong and be able to differentiate competence from corruption but such fortune cannot be found in the area of Law enforcement and moral โ€˜good and badโ€™?

    You are not seeing the same kind of enthusiasm of resolution and publicity as you witnessed in the Kadooment day gun play at the Ok Spring Garden allegedly because of the players involved.

    Not this time by the ghetto show-offs looking for a name in the small-fry retail drug trade but with โ€˜highly-educatedโ€™ gangsters who not only defend โ€˜sophisticated โ€˜contraband territory in the port(s) of illegal entry but have the sword of Damocles over the heads of those who hold high political status.

    Yes, the same political figures who hold strategically important portfolios but depend heavily on the illicit proceeds of those involved in the drugs and gun trade in order to finance those politically regulated garrison-type electoral campaigns which the drug lords back- in return for Greenverbs-like protection and insulation from the Law- the real dons in the political chess game


  41. David September 10, 2017 at 6:48 AM #

    Precisely. Bear in mind what I said re recent events relating to foreign banks in Barbados. Shutting branches, shutting sub offices that relate to other parts of the businesses. Readily available information.

    Consider that in light of your suggestion and I suspect that you have the answer.

    @Fractured DLP stooge

    Why must you get insulting? Message too close to the bone, n’est pas?

    It is clear that incompetence is not the way to go in ‘our’ efforts to grasp at the branches hanging at the edge of the economic abyss for BIM.

    We need leadership and competence.

    Reality is, at this point, the only choice to get that is Mia, who will actually have the intelligence and street wise to get international help. Which is what is needed.

    As good hearted as Grenville P. seems, he is out to lunch on policies.


  42. @Miller

    Vernese Brathwaite being sent on leave with pay for 7 years is incompetence?

    The DPP holding files for 7 years is incompetence?

    Why bother!


  43. @Crusoe

    You have to learn to turn the other cheek when these political trolls comment with the purpose to disrupt. It shows the extent these idiots are prepared to put political party before national interest. Ignore them, when you comment you fall into their trap.


  44. Jethro,
    First, write in simple, understandable English and not in code. Who are the cohort of highly-educated university graduates? I am lost.
    Second, if you believe a university graduate cannot be incompetent you are living in cloud cuckoo land.
    A suspected murder is investigated by the police, who last time I checked, did not have to be a graduate. Some of their supervisors may be graduates, usually in law or criminology.
    The inability to identify an Englishman believed murdered in Barbados could be sorted even by people not trained detective. The queries I raised above stand. Go to Lancashire and ask questions.
    Again, cut out the hype and concentrate on the basic facts: incompetence trumps corruption every time.


  45. Barbadians get what they deserves. Corrupt Police Force, Politicians, Attorneys and dishonest workers throughout.

    Crabs in the bucket mentality and fooled that they are educated and literate.

    Having owned Businesses throughout the Region and taught at UWI I can speak first hand.

    No change of Government will make a difference as the island is in a downward spiral.


  46. Dukharan became a problem for her employer, since she exposed the high risk of any foreign investment in the region. Just compare her position and E&Y Focus on Barbados Budget 2017. The lads at E&Y tell us fairy tales about the future course in 2017. We were told since 2008 that the finances will recover. It NEVER happened. Where are the great new projects with inflow of foreign currency? The Chinese, the Arabs, the Canadians or another Fata Morgana after the fifth bottle of rum? Where are they? No local accountant at E&Y or any economist of another bank in Barbados will ever admit that their local investments are doomed. Dead men walking.

    Those who drive around Barbados, those who talk to the business leaders and visit local stores know that Dukharanยดs projection is right. There is no remedy for Barbados which saves jobs AND cuts down the deficit. There will be no diversification of economic activities, since Barbados is too expensive to do business. The useless public talk during the last 10 years has revealed a common weakness of the local elite, namely the inability to act. Once upon a time, such economic conservatism was right, when Jamaica and Guyana experimented with socialism. Today such conservatism is lethal in a changing world.


  47. This is how we manipulate discussions in Barbados. Ms Brathwaite had nothing to do with the investigation in to the death of the Englishman; nor has the DDP’s office held the file for seven years on his death. So what is the relevance to this discussion?


  48. Going back to 2014 BU posted a blog to address the Laffer Curve theory. The traditional media has not made a big deal of this issue but it was mentioned by Marla during her session at ICAB and the reality that Barbados has reached the point where more taxes will result in less revenue.

     

    Increased Taxation Will NOT Work Mr. Sinckler. Have you ever heard of Lafferโ€™s Curveโ€ฆ?

    by David on November 10, 2014 in Opinion, Politics Edit

    Submitted by Just Thinking Economics Who ever said that increased taxation will help Barbados out of its current mess needs to have their heads examine. We are already overly taxed and to inflict further painโ€ฆ..โ€broadening the tax baseโ€โ€ฆ. will do nothing more than to compound โ€œthe already poorโ€ problems. Just imagine asking small incomers (working [โ€ฆ]


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