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Jeff Cumberbatch – Columnist, Barbados Advocate

It should be clear maybe even to the proverbial blind (or rather visually impaired) man on a trotting horse that what we choose, in our quaint way of using expressions to mean precisely what we want them to mean despite their traditional usage elsewhere, to call the โ€œsilly seasonโ€, has begun in Barbados. Most dictionaries choose to define the silly season as referring to a period when there is an absence of serious news available for publication in the newspapers; for example, the Cambridge English Dictionary posits the following โ€“ โ€œThe time of year, usually in the summer, when newspapers are full of stories that are not important because there is no important, especially political, newsโ€

However, as Humpty Dumpty would have done in Alice in Wonderland, we use the term to describe that period when political news is at its most prevalent, the period of the electoral campaign, whether official or unofficial. That it might now be accurately described as an extraordinarily premature delivery, given that the Prime Minister might have as many as 12 months at his disposal to dissolve Parliament will scarcely bother those who are yearning for an electoral war for the coveted spoils of the reins of office.

So we have had the laughable scenario of some of the members and supporters of one party condemning the presence of a youngster, far braver than I could have ever claimed to be at his age, on a platform mounted by the opposition. He is censured not for what he is reported to have said or even how he said it, but simply for where he said it. The lad might consider ruefully that he would have suffered an equivalent panning from those who now defend his perspicuity had the metaphorical boot been on the other leg. That is realpolitik, I suppose.

As far as I am concerned, there will be time enough for musing on the engagement political, especially given the anticipated duration of this โ€œsilly seasonโ€.

I have chosen rather this week to comment on a development in another regional jurisdiction that speaks to the politics of crime fighting and of the lengths to which an administration will go to protect the lives of the citizenry and, simultaneously, to avoid being tarred with the partisan brush of being held hostage to the criminal element.

I refer, of course to the scenario in Trinidad & Tobago where, in order to wrestle a burgeoning murder rate to the ground, the governing Keith Rowley led administration is seriously contemplating a reinstitution of the execution of convicted murderers by hanging. The gravity of their concern might be evidenced by the fact that, as reported in last Sundayโ€™s edition of the Barbados Advocate, Dr Rowley himself has openly requested the assistance of former Attorney General and quondam political foe, Mr. Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj, โ€œto ensure the death penalty for convicted killers can be executed (sic) in T&T.

In light of the number of murders in that jurisdiction in recent years, – for 2017 alone, there have been, when last I checked on Monday, 106 murders in the 78 days of the year that had elapsed so far; an alarming rate of 1.37 murders per day-it comes as no surprise that a political administration should feel compelled to โ€œtry a tโ€™ingโ€.

What most bears remarking about the current initiative, however, is not the conscription of a political foe to assist in the effort, but rather that all previous attempts since 1999 to follow the identical course of action in that jurisdiction have spectacularly failed. This apart, there are also the legal barriers in the jurisprudence of Trinidad & Tobagoโ€™s highest court, the Judicial Committee of Her Majestyโ€™s Privy Council, that would stymie the likelihood of the currently proposed measure passing constitutional muster.

Perhaps the Rowley administration is spoiling for a legal fight; which might explain the praying in aid of Mr Maharajโ€™s forensic legal skills and perhaps even his reputation as a previous administrationโ€™s chief legal adviser. After all, in that guise many years ago, he achieved the dubious distinction of โ€œhanging nine with one blowโ€, reminding so much of the Brothers Grimmโ€™s โ€œBrave Little Tailorโ€. The Republic will, nevertheless, have to speed up its curial practices if it is going to overcome the Pratt & Morgan โ€œelephant in the roomโ€ of having to effect the ultimate punishment within five years of the conviction. Indeed, because it withdrew some years from the jurisdiction of the Inter-American Court of Human Rights, T& T has an even shorter period to do what it considers must be done once a conviction has been secured.

The Oxford Comma

One of the social media sites that I frequent carried a report this week as to how the absence of a comma led to a rather surprising legal decision. I thought it sufficiently amusing to serve as an end-piece to this weekโ€™s column. Frequent readers of this space may recall that on more occasions than one, I have referred to the importance of the placement of the comma in the phrase, โ€œHang him not let him goโ€. Position it after him and one obtains a markedly different result from when it is sited after the โ€œnotโ€. One might say it would be the difference between life and death. There are others too. For example, the unvarnished and unpunctuated, โ€œ A woman without her man is nothingโ€ might offer some controversial insights whether the comma is placed after โ€œwomanโ€ or, indeed, after โ€œmanโ€.

The piece on LinkedIn, interestingly enough, refers to the use of a comma many of us would have been taught as infants to avoid as being superfluous. This is the infamous Oxford comma that, contrary to traditional lore, is employed before โ€œandโ€ and before โ€œorโ€.

The anecdote, written by one Zamira Rahim. Is self-explanatory.

According to his report, a group of dairy drivers in the dispute argued that they deserved overtime pay and the appeals court agreed with them. Why?

Because the guidelines setting out the types of work that don’t require overtime pay lacked clarity. The case turned on one particular statutory extract:

“The canning, processing, preserving, freezing, drying, marketing, storing, packing for shipment or distribution of

(1) Agricultural produce;

(2) Meat and fish products; and

(3) Perishable foods.”

The lack of an Oxford comma between “packing for shipment” and “or distribution of” meant that it was unclear whether the guidelines meant distribution and packing for shipment were separate things, or whether the exemption applied to jobs involving either packing for shipment or packing for distribution.

According to the court, the dairy drivers in question only distributed but didn’t pack perishable food, so weren’t necessarily covered by the clause. The judge added that where such rules are unclear, labor laws are structured to benefit employees, so the dairy drivers won.

“For want of a comma, we have this case,” the judge wrote.


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75 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – The Populist Solution and the Oxford Comma”

  1. Violet Beckles CUP Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZI Avatar
    Violet Beckles CUP Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZI

    STOP IMPORTS OF ALL GMO FOODS, OF ALL MEATS, ALL WE NEED IS ALREADY HERE.


  2. “A woman without a man is nothing ” Agree ! with or without the coma it would be hard to decipher the truth and the content of the statement other than that of being truthful,
    A judge leaning forward slightly adjusting his glasses and positioning himself readily to gave a decision would not take a chance to say any thing different unless his back is strong enough to withstand the wrath of a Calvary of woman standing outside his front door

    In reference to hanging there are times when the end justify the means when every thing else fails and restoration is the only alternative

  3. Well Well & Consequences Observing BloggerI Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing BloggerI

    Yeah…like hanging lawyers who refuse to stop stealing from their clients.


  4. There is something savage about us which is best demonstrated in our blood-thirsty craving for hanging.
    Yet, as we know from the United States, and other European jurisdictions, the convicted offenders most likely to be hanged for murder are what we now call people of colour.
    In many ways, this is an argument that has played out itself in North America and Europe, not only about hanging, but the general mas incarceration of black people.
    It then becomes a major problem when you come to a black-majority nation in which black police, black judges and black juries condemn black people to death, or extra-ordinarily long prison terms, for relatively minor offences.
    In Barbados, we have one particular magistrate who seems to derive great pleasure from her abuse of every sentencing principle know to jurists without as much as a whisper by the Barbados Bar Association, politicians, the attorneys general of either party, activists groups, the church – not a single social group.
    This authoritarian, spiteful, abusive magistrate – who to my unprofessional mind has a deep psychological problem – seems to have a serious dislike of poor black people, and in particular men.
    This abusive sentencing goes hand in hand with the rise of the militarisation of civil policing (see Radley Balko’s Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarisation of America’s Police Forces), which coincided with the defeat in Vietnam and the over-supply of military equipment.
    Not only did this development give rise to so-called SWAT teams (see Scotland Yard last Wednesday), but the indiscriminate murder of black suspects.
    How do the Americans spread this vicious form of criminal justice, through soft power: sponsoring training for local police and criminal justice officials; taking journalists on all-expenses paid tours; etc.
    Criminal profiling (another bogus theory of crime developed by the FBI in the 1970s, at the same time as so-called victimology) all come together rather comfortably to reinforce the marginalisation of young, under-educated, untrained, unemployed black people.
    Even black law enforcement officers can be victims of such profiling (see Neill Franklin, a former narcotics cop and commander in the Maryland and Baltimore police).
    In Barbados, because we are not used to having public discussions about sensitive social issues, officials can get away with murder.
    Clive Stafford Smith, the British-born lawyer who has made it his career defending people on death row in the US, once said, each generation must find a new focus for its politics of resistance.
    It is one thing being foul-mouthed and abusive, but when you see that look in the eyes of a person on death row and the wives (it is usually a man) and children are looking to you as their last hope and you know that you are powerless, it is humbling. That, my friend, is real politics.
    Two final stories: Bill Clinton, in 1992, said that New Democrats should no longer feel guilty about protecting so-called victims of crimes and came out in support of the death penalty. As governor of Arkansas, he broke off from the presidential campaign to return and oversee the execution of Ricky Ray Rector, a brain-damaged black man. This is the man and his wife that black people in large numbers voted for.
    The final story: I was once standing in the reception area of Wormwood Scrubs prison, the biggest reception prison in Britain, when prisoners were being brought in from the courts.
    I was wearing a suit and a Home Office staff badge.
    In walked a prison officer, who clearly only saw a black man, and tried to push me in to one of the cells; he was only stopped when one of the prison staffers intercepted. That was in the early 1070s and there was not a single apology.
    The point I m trying to make is that those of us who know how criminal justice operates in North America and Europe and see it operating in the Caribbean can only shake our heads in shame.


  5. Jeff

    The precision or imprecision, and maybe ‘inbetweenity’ of English language obviously represents some delight for you.

    You are a lover of the language, we know

    For us, we like to write how we feel

    Not particularly paying attention to the linguistic traditions, usage

    But more as an artist

    Indeed, sometimes we incorporate ‘rules’ from other traditions in writing English.

    On the matter of the death penalty

    We would prefer if no government had the responsibility to, sought to, kill anyone. And this is our best thinking, ranges from allowing corporations to poison people to hanging citizens for murder, no matter how depraved that murder might have been.

    At a personal level, we have already determined that if we or any member of our family was murdered that we will do all in our power to prevent the execution of the one/ones so charged regardless of circumstances. This does not mean we might not want to kill the killer/s ourselves. But would not encourage any government to commit murder in our names, at any level.

    That is in a not so perfect world.

    But since government seeks the fall back position of murderer-in-chief. And given that the law, generally speaking, seems to be unsettled internationally. And while crimes of governing administrations throughout the world are drastically increasing, we have argued that this remedy is an adequate device for official violations against the people.

    We contend that in those circumstances no legal niceties need be followed.

    Rowley, in TNT, will therefore be as pursued as he is pursuing those the court system now calls murders.

    In the final analysis, it have been decades long governmental corruption in TNT which has led to widespread social disorder and the political elites have been the ultimate hand in the murder of citizens.

    We are sure these positions will not persuade you any, but they are ours nonetheless


  6. As is the case with wonton debt accumulation by regional governments, retreating to the death penalty is a lazy solution. We need to focus on programs to strengthen the family unit read non economic initiatives.


  7. the issue relates to trinidad of mixed origins black and indian and whose murder rate has escalated to uncontrollable levels
    What other alternatives are available, the consensus of global opinion is in disagreement on whether the death penalty is a preventative measure to murder In other respect “‘ the one size fits all” theory is not always appropriate to deal with the reality at hand
    Small nation govts have a right to protect its citizens and if the overall view of the citizenry is in harmony with govt options or alternatives there is nothing wrong with govt proposing legislation to cull or stymied those activities that are causing harm or indifference to the overall betterment of society


  8. Digicel accused of committing bypass Fraud in Guyana wonder if they are doing same in Barbados to cheat the Treasury.

    Digicel, a company that has a licence for mobile services, has been facilitating an โ€œillegal, unlicensed trans-border link between Guyana and Surinameโ€.

    GTT said that there is no ambiguity about this bypass activity. In fact, the company said, in a demonstration of โ€œremarkable arrogance and disregard for rule of law in Guyanaโ€, Digicel itself has acknowledged the operation on several occasions.

    โ€œJust as recently as March 21, 2017, Digicel told the PUC (Public Utilities Commission) that its bypass operation was not appropriate for the discussion at hand, while never once denying any aspect of the operation.

    http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2017/03/26/telecoms-liberalisation-war-heats-upgtt-accuses-digicel-of-illegal-suriname-bypass-wants-independent-audit/


  9. A WORLD WITHOUT WOMENโ€จโ€จย โ€จWhat this world would beโ€จWithout our womenโ€จDon’t be stupid, dummyโ€จThere would be no menโ€จFor behind any ordinary manโ€จThere is a good woman โ€จย โ€จThere would be no worldโ€จNo countryโ€จNo flags to be unfurledโ€จSo emptyโ€จFor women bring love into play for allโ€จThis sometimes adds to man’s downfallโ€จย โ€จWhat would the world be without fashionโ€จIt would be a real messโ€จLiving in a bomb-shelter without rationโ€จSeeing a man in a dressโ€จIt would be like a hive without beesโ€จLiving in a desert without any oasesโ€จย โ€จImagine a world without any bikiniโ€จNo G-stringโ€จIt would be so barren, no beautyโ€จA sad thingโ€จThere would be no healthy beachโ€จAnd nothing for all men to reachโ€จย โ€จNo matter how man prays to the aboveโ€จHe’d be left with a world so barrenโ€จHe would never be able to fall in loveโ€จIn a world so dull and foreignโ€จIt wouldn’t be a world but a big jokeโ€จLike drinking good rum without cokeโ€จย โ€จMen would be left facing the wallโ€จFor men without womenโ€จThere wouldn’t be any Taj Mahalโ€จA cock without a henโ€จIt would be a sad, wretched world indeedโ€จAnd men would have no use for their seedโ€จย โ€จAnd those commercials about hygiene and Secretโ€จFor which men have no needโ€จThey say their pH-balance don’t make them fretโ€จFor which men take no heedโ€จBut whether they use Massengill or wear panty-hoseโ€จA rose by any other name is still a bleddy roseโ€จย โ€จMen would surely go robust and bustโ€จThe macho stereotype so sterile, so vainโ€จWhat would men do with all that lustโ€จLike going the other way in a one way lane โ€จThat’s one sensation of which they would be deprivedโ€จWhich can’t be replaced no matter how they contrivedโ€จย โ€จWithout women thereโ€™d be no heartbeatโ€จMen’s hearts would not last very longโ€จThat would be the cause of men’s defeatโ€จThere would be no love in their songโ€จTheir world would be in monotoneโ€จWith poor men’s hormone all aloneโ€จ
    No night life without night-galsโ€จBoring, boringโ€จMen can’t have fun with their palsโ€จI’ll be snoringโ€จIt’s women who maintain the balance and checksโ€จAnd men can’t live without this opposite sexโ€จย โ€จMen would not need bedroomsโ€จNo marriage no honeymoonโ€จNo brides and no bride-groomsโ€จLike a song without a tuneโ€จThen men may really learn a thing or twoโ€จFor without women they can’t find a clueโ€จย โ€จFinally last but not leastโ€จA man without a womanโ€จWill resort back to a beastโ€จAnd become a lesser manโ€จSailing a sunken sail-less ship without a mastโ€จIn a planet just hit by a nuclear holocaust.โ€จ

  10. Vincent Haynes Avatar

    Bims murder rate is on the increase…..our gun violence is on the increase as is our lack of intelligence e.g. it took 5 fellows each with a gun to rob the Taitt hill night spot.

    We must take the happenings in T&T and J’ca seriously as we are heading in that direction,those of us who grew up in the 50s knew of how great British Guiana,T&T and J’ca were how much their money was worth.

    Only the blinkered or blind cannot see the similarities of their decline with ours,the increase in robberies is a sure sign that money is no longer circulating,just look at only $600 on a friday night take at Taitt hill.

    Hanging will not solve the situation only a progressive leadership with a vision to galvanise the people will do it.

  11. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    I am un unapolegetic defender of the death penalty in capital murder case. I am no bleeding-heart liberal when it comes to crime and punishment. Why should the society be more tolerant of citzens taking the lives of other citzens- and the offender given free boarding and food at the tax-payer’s expense – but frowned upon when the state does the same thing in law? I guess giving muderers a free pass is the political correct thing to do nowadays.

    The punishment must fit the crime is my doctrine, deterent is secondary.


  12. vincent

    Hanging will not solve the situation only a progressive leadership with a vision to galvanise the people will do it.

    only until when a amily member of yours get brutally murdered, then and only then would your eyes would be awakened tto the fact that there are some monsters living in modern day societies that need to be eradicated with immediacy
    How many times have we read of repeat offenders who callously killed again,


  13. @fortyacresandamule

    There are good arguments on bothsides of this issue. The tipping argument could be if as a society we lack the wherewithal or capacity to implement effective remedial programs then we are forced to destroy what are threats to a peaceful society. Not to do so means the inevitable.


  14. Fortyacres,

    Most murders are not intentional. Further, what happens when there has been a miscarriage of justice?


  15. Inevitably a deteriorating economic condition will cause crime to spike. On the ground we understand the ‘temperature’ of crime has risen and there is a difference between reported and not reported crime.

    We contiTo stick our heads in the sand while leaving our asses exposed.

  16. Vincent Haynes Avatar

    Nowhere have I made a case for or against hanging….its a non issue to the present situation steering us in the face.

    Prevention is always better than cure….lets get these active young people with lots of energy into productive occupations producing things for the countries benefit.

    What we are seeing now is a manifestation of idle hands,loads of time and no money all lining up together.


  17. Again this statement is more idealistic than practical. What about the deportees who are known to involve themselves in crime? What about those who travel the Caribbean under the RTOC?

  18. Vincent Haynes Avatar

    David

    The exception proves the rule which will be dealt with according to the implementation of the laws of our land…..the bigger picture is to get idle hands being productive again otherwise you will end up hanging the entire society.


  19. @Vincent

    Deportees and criminals from the region exception or not, it only takes one or two to create mayhem in Barbados. We must accept that these bad elements cannot be helped, many of them. Unfortunately Caribbean societies are failing and we must be pragmatic while confronting the problems. Given the level of debt and social decay currently being experienced we will be struggling for a long time to come.

  20. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @Hal. I am not talking cases of OVERWHELMING mitigating circumstances. Nothing in life is fair, and no system is 100% full proof. People die innocently everyday and we don’t make it into idealogical or political cause. Airplanes crash and innocent lives are lost regularly. Yet, nobody is calling to ban air travel. Natural disasters kill thousands yearly, we say it is an ‘act of god’ and we move.

    But it never seizes to amaze me, how the same set of people, exhibit this irrational stance, when the state executes or try to execute the vilest among us.


  21. Forty,

    Got you. Miscarriages of justice are just collateral.


  22. Take the case of a man who was recently released from dodds after spending twenty years
    The details of the murder are so horrific the man plans to kill his wife get a chance to do so decapitate her and as if the the horror of doing so was not enough kills the child
    Why in the world was this man not giving the death plenty but was released after time served
    How does one justify or rationalise the horror of this crime sufficiently to say that the victims family members were fully represented and fair justice was done on behalf of them and the victim.


  23. The following extracted from a T&T group BU is a member. The same conversations are being had all across the Caribbean.

     

    Typical of the PNM, remember it was PNM who closed down Caroni, and that is fact. Agriculture & Fishing are not mentioned in their diversification roadmap. Not a surprise since successive PNM governments have neglected the Agri sector and even though they shell out occasional propaganda press releases etc on Agri, one has to conclude they don’t like people in that sector, in general any roti people, and could not care less – let them drop dead – about those parts of the country where the Agri/roti people live. They put a token green-verb PNM farmer in the Agri Ministry and all he care about is paving the road near his home and making sure he and his friends/families eating as much food as they can.

    Media Release

    Diversification Talks

    Planning Minister Camille Robinson Regis; Works and Transport Minister Rohan Sinanan; Trade and Industry Minister Paula Gopee-Scoon and Finance Minister Colm Imbert discuss a diversification roadmap with Dr. Terrence Farrell and the Economic Development Advisory Board.

    Recognising the negative economic impacts of the sharp fall in oil and gas prices since mid-2014 as well as the decline in the production of both crude oil and natural gas the Ministry of Planning and Development in collaboration with the Economic Development Advisory Board (EDAB) has been pursuing measures to diversify the economy.  The Honourable Minister of Planning and Development Camille Robinson-Regis called a meeting to further discuss actions towards diversification with the Minister of Works and Transport, the Minister of Trade and Industry and the Minister of Finance and the Economy on March 24.

    Dr. Terrence Farrell and the members of the Economic Advisory Board presented a draft diversification roadmap to the Ministers and Permanent Secretaries in attendance.  At this meeting, it was agreed that private public and private sector coordination, stakeholder leadership and partnership, inter-ministerial collaboration, resources and focused actions are some of the key variables for this journey.  Some of the other factors highlighted were the development of research and development in the public, private and tertiary education sectors in Trinidad and Tobago.  Worker productivity and work ethics were also seen as challenges to be overcome.

    The draft diversification roadmap presented by the EDAB identifies seven (7) industries to drive diversification which include manufacturing for export, nearshore financial services, creative industries, tourism, energy services, digital platforms and business process outsourcing and trans-shipment, ship repair and maritime-related services.  Also highlighted are seven enablers which serve as initiatives which must be addressed for the efficient and effective realization of the diversification agenda as well as overcome obstacles to development.  These are: infrastructure, both physical and โ€˜softโ€™ such as health and education; diaspora engagement; foreign direct investment; economic and commercial diplomacy as well as branding T&T; innovation; private sector and university collaboration and institutional reforms.

    The draft diversification roadmap is a rationalization of what must be done towards the short, medium and long term in order to achieve a partial to fully diversified economy.  The Ministers and Permanent Secretaries present will further analyse the document at the levels of their various ministries and more work will be done on the ideas presented to further enhance the concepts laid out and transform them into actionable plans for success.

  24. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @Hal. Human beings have always been collateral damage, it’s part of the human condition. How many civilians died in WWI and WWII or in Syria as we speak.?


  25. @fortyacresandamule

    Hammer and nails
    Hand and glove
    War and collateral damage

    Hope you are following.


  26. Forty,

    We live in a culture in which almost every Bajan man would volunteer to be aa hangman.

  27. Vincent Haynes Avatar

    David

    Typical of the PNM, remember it was PNM who closed down Caroni, and that is fact. Agriculture & Fishing are not mentioned in their diversification roadmap. Not a surprise since successive PNM governments have neglected the Agri sector and even though they shell out occasional propaganda press releases etc on Agri, one has to conclude they donโ€™t like people in that sector,
    ………………………………………………………………….

    One can change the names and put in succesive govts of Bim in the above and that says it all for us here.

  28. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @Hal. I abhor criminality with a passion. I tell my kids and adult children to walk the straight and narrow everyday. And if god forbid they find themselves on the wrong side of the law, they are on their own. Tough love.

  29. Expose Barbados Criminals Destroying Island Avatar
    Expose Barbados Criminals Destroying Island

    Sherwin Patterson alias Jersey Jersey

    This US drugs and fraud criminal deportee who spent 9 years in US prison bulling and being bulled daily has fucked a lot of people in Barbados being aided by equally dirty Barbados Police who are involved with drugs, prostitution, fraud and Bribery.

    Previous involvement with Rolex, Tastee Treats and Ace of Diamonds Strip Clubs all out of business.

    This crook and woman beater has disclosed recently on his Facebook page he is looking to start another Strip Club Climaxxx to continue his crooked ways aided by Police, Immigration and Customs for human trafficking of the strippers/prostitution and weed/cocaine from, Trinidas, Jamaica and Guyana.

    This monster has beaten and abused many of the former strippers/prostitutes in his Clubs and having those who stand up to him deported by his corrupt government employees partners in crime.

    No wonder Roxanne his former wife a Guyanese left his sorry ass. Roxanne used to travel to Guyana regularly to bring in cocaine and counterfeit US$ for him to destroy the Barbados society.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10212083760828099&id=1197146748

  30. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @David. Indeed I am following . Since the Pratt and Morgan ruling, caribbean societies have become murder capitals of the world. The UN, in past report, has even classified some countries in the region has conflict zones. Their daily murder rate is equivalent to a coutry undergoing a civil war. Now is not the time sing Kumbaya. I support Rowley on this and Panday deserves the Trinity Cross to exterminate scumbags like Dole Chadeee and his gang.

  31. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right – INRI

    @ The Honourable Blogmaster

    You see that initiative per Diversification that the T&T government is pursuing?

    I find it really interesting for a number of reasons not least of which is my own subscription and involvement in the same.

    But here is a thing that you and the writer Jeff might be able to appreciate.

    Jeff as part of today’s article writes “…โ€œHang him not let him goโ€.

    In looking at the sentence without the hints a few of us automatically see the comma, or lack thereof, a few, given the hints, then are able to see the meaning associated with the sentence but there are a few who even if it were to be explained to them CANNOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE like Angela Sealy obviously did not.

    The issue and construct of “Diversification” can be likened to that comma and the fact that WITHOUT A HINT many are lost perpetually and, even with the assembly of so called great minds CANNOT SEE the roadmap nor the old tracks and certainly dont climb a tree to get their bearing out of the thick copses.

    And this is precisely the poing Honourable Blogmaster.

    THis is why we are where we are in Barbados with both DLP and BLP bereft of any plan forward but proudly and emptily chanting the Diversification chant.

    So we bring the Cardinal Warde’s to champion the fight because “he does teach at M.I.T” so he musseee know about diversification.

    Steupseeee

  32. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    Trinidad is a conundrum. How come a society with a low unemployment rate (below 5%), massive welfare programme , relatively high HDI, and high per capita income ( third highest in the americas ) be so murderous and violent? This defy traditional theory of economics and crime.


  33. @PUDRYR

    Following you. The appreciation of a well placed comma!

  34. Well Well & Consequences Observing BloggerI Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing BloggerI

    Trinis were always bloodthirsty, being cosmopolitan with all those different bloodlines, spanish, french creole, indian, polynesian, african running through their viens of 1.4 milion people, does not help.


  35. T&T suffers from the life too easy syndrome which is as bad as life too hard with idle hands.


  36. @ 40acres+1mule
    Boss, why are you arguing with Hal? His questions are worthwhile, but his answers continue to be questionable. Yours is a sensible position on crime, and it is for lack of such VISION as yours, that are facing the present scourge.
    Any society that takes a soft stand agains crime is effectively condoning it, sending the message that it is OK to do shiite.

    It is interesting that arguably the most barbaric people EVER to have inhabited this earth (Hal’s hosts) are now pushing this condescending and accommodating position in response to serious crime.

    In the final analysis however, our current situation can be traced to the Garrison – where the now infamous monument has been installed to celebrate the enthronement of our new ‘god of Barbados’…. the one whose ways of brass bowlery we have whole-heartedly adopted.

    This country has been taking such asinine decisions, in such a wide variety of areas in recent years, that in is almost impossible to conceive of such idiocy even being possible – without Satanic guidance.
    .


  37. The best indicator of the state of the country is the observation of a couple members of the BU household a moment ago and passed a Chefette outlet that was literally jam packed with locals fifty fifty adults and children.

  38. Bernard Codrington Avatar
    Bernard Codrington

    @ David @7:51 PM

    How do you interpret this observation? Is it indicative of prosperity or lack of the wherewith-all to prepare a properly home cooked Sunday dinner.?


  39. @Bernard

    It is emblematic of a surrender to a modern lifestyle. Do you understand why we are regarded as the NCD capital of this part of the world?


  40. @David, fifty adults and children

    That’s what happens when you print FREE PAPER $, here today, worthless tomorrow.


  41. @ David
    It is not about wanting a modern lifestyle. It is about wanting a free and easy life – with all the glitz we see on TV – but without any serious effort on our individual parts.

    But this is our NATIONAL motto…. not the one voiced in the Anthem, but the one we ACTUALLY live. It is why we like tourism as a business too – just sit back and wait for others to provide our needs.

    We accept the humiliation of waiting in line for others to feed us;
    We accept the nastiness and health issues that come with this mendicancy; we accept being looked down on… pissed on in fact.

    There is no national advancement. We produce no great thinkers; no great writers; no great builders; no great advocates; no great athletes; nothing…
    Shiite man … we cannot even qualify a Judge on the CCJ – which we pioneered…

    The few assets we previously owned have been pawned off in order to enjoy the easy life for a few month longer…

    If social development is about ADVANCING a people towards self-actualisation , then we are total, embarrassing, brass bowl failures.

  42. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @Bushie. Amen. Truer words have never been spoken. Nowadys criminals have more lobbyist on their behalf and rights, than the victims. We live in an upside down world .


  43. Slaves OF the corporate structure FOR the corporate structure, at the cost of our energy, paying the bills is the motivation to work and its all strategize social engineering… BU bloggers exhibit great thinking, multi level writing, excellent ideas and advocates.. can’t speak to sporting potential


  44. Bush Tea,

    I think you ought to be a hangman or even a Bajan magistrate. The real truth is that there is a high level of illiteracy among prisoners, this is no coincidence.
    There is a vast literature in the sociological sub-discipline of penology that shows this. Prison education should be a priority.
    Why do you find relatively few so-called white-collar criminals in prisons? In Barbados why do you think so few white people even come before the courts, farless get sent to prison? Do we have the most honest white population in the world?
    You have also bought in to this American nonsense of victimology and the FBI fabrication of criminal profiling.
    In Britain we allow the ‘victim’ to give a pre-sentence impact statement which usually calls for revenge. You know what they are going to say even before they are written.
    The point is that in a civilised country the state should not have to take in to consideration so-called victims. We are all victims.
    A crime is the breaking of state-determined social rules and for which the state is authorised to impose a penalty, not the victim. Victim-led justice is called vigilante-ism. Read about Emmett Till.
    On another point, you may have noticed that Scotland Yard is now saying the terrorist who attacked parliament was a ‘lone wolf’. The theory of the lone wolf or loner in crime studies is that it frees the investigating authorities from having to undertake any further work. The loner is dead, so that is the end of the investigation.
    To say s/he has co-conspirators means the investigation must go on. It is an escape clause meant to re-assure the public.

  45. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    The simple truth/ fact: We plant okra and
    expect to reap corn. Making excuses for
    all our national failures. Pretending that
    we can ignore what is taking place
    globally. Entertaining bogus intellectuals.
    Elevating inferior politicians often referring
    to rather ordinary leaders as “brilliant”.
    The national discourse has been hijacked
    by non-thinkers !

  46. Well Well & Consequences Observing BloggerI Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing BloggerI

    “We accept the humiliation of waiting in line for others to feed us;
    We accept the nastiness and health issues that come with this mendicancy; we accept being looked down onโ€ฆ pissed on in fact.”

    That’s the key word, the operative word. ……ACCEPTANCE…..then you wait for someone to come along and free you and your minds from your own self-inflicted enslavement. ….you fight down those among you who show you your predicament, who have the tools to show you hpw to free yourselves from that mental predicament, those who fight their way out of that predicament and who try to get you out of that predicament, because you have become comfortable, accepting slaves.

    “Emancipate YOURSELVES from mental slavery, none but YOURSELVES can free YOUR minds”


  47. People who support the death penalty are basically talking about killing poor people

    People who hardly have access to the best legal representation, or any at all.

    In Barbados 90% of cases are prosecuted entirely based on ‘confessions’. Says Johnny Cheltenham

    Other countries have found that significant numbers of people so accused, sentenced and executed, where innocent

    For us to have purposefully killed people in these circumstances is equivalent to killing all of mankind, one innocent person is.

    These same people genuflect when ‘silent killers’ of whole countries, the same treatment is proposed for.

    When war criminals like Tony Blair or George Bush or Theresa May there are no clarion call for their execution.

    When OSA, FJS, MAM Mugabe have committed far greater crimes against a whole population calls are never made for executions like there should be.

    Lastly, these notion of living lawful lives is the same as obeisance to the elites.

    Elites who themselves must seek to break laws for their advancement, and so do routinely.


  48. @ Pacha
    Good to see you and Hal on the same side of a moot….. perhaps we will now see some love and affection…
    Pity that you had to take such an erroneous stance in order to achieve this feat.

    Look Boss…
    There are some basic SPIRITUAL laws that override any shiite rules that are prescribed by our warped societies of lawyers…. (except for Jeff of course)

    Some things in life are SACRED… for spiritual reasons….whether wunna understand/ accept this or not is 100% IRrelevant…. things like – the sanctity of life, marriage, the Sabbath….

    ‘An eye for an eye …and a tooth for a tooth’ was meant to emphasise the importance to SOCIETY that individuals respected the rights and life of OTHERS. In other words, unless you are prepared to give up YOUR life too, you must not feel entitled to take another’s.

    When Hal talk shiite about ‘poor people’ and ‘white people’ and ‘white collar people’ – this is just a red herring. If the justice system does NOT address these imbalances properly then we need to attack the unbalanced system – NOT THE FUNDAMENTAL UNDERLYING PRINCIPLE.

    Obviously if you send the message that killing someone is not worth, and does NOT require, the sacrifice of the life of the perpetrator, then you are DEVALUING human life….

    A progressive society is one where this RULE is applied all the way to the warmongers at the top. Therefore an argument that says that “Bush and Blair killed thousands so why can’t John Doe kill his neighbour” …should be beneath you Pacha….. you just want to fraternise with your pal Hal…

    The REAL question is “how can we develop a society where people like Blair and Bush are held accountable – with their lives, …for unjustified acts of murder too…”


  49. For me it goes far beyond supporting the death plenty or not supporting but international treaties that small island countries are govened that disallowed these nations from formulating their own policies. Eg the death penalty
    Some of these treaties in some way have become meddlesome and forms an imbalance that at times are destructive to the social enviroment of these nations
    The idea that international treaties can be used as an appartus to direct and dictate small island goverance is a form of control and ludicrous
    Small island nations have to come to terms with reality and be guided and directed in every sense of the word by the day to day issues when confronted seeking those solutions that would not erode at people lack and faith in governance

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