Dr. George Brathwaite
Dr. George Brathwaite (PhD)

In recent times, the Barbados Government has not done the best job of communicating with its citizens and residents. Worse, numerous persons in the island are calling out for enhanced transparency and accountability – perhaps in vain; but receiving calculated spin and often deft silence to their appeals. The governing continues to deride such practices of good governance, and make manifesto promises and administrative best practices seem elusive and far adrift from the ideal. The saviour on many occasions has seldom been investigative journalism from the local media. Rather, the Leader of the Opposition and her team continue to expose and push back against the secrecy that has become normal in the scheme of governance under the intellectually stirred but sluggishly compromised Prime Minister Freundel Stuart. There will always be consequences for the choices made.

Activists such as David Comissiong and ‘independent’ advocates for good governance are repeatedly speaking out against perceived and actual infelicities by the government. These persons continue to be adamant that the local officials must do much more to meet the expectations of the people while advancing the national interest first. There can be no doubt that both the executive and legislative branches of government, although leaving much to be desired, ought to be more informative to the public. Government decisions must engender greater national participation and major projects must become implemented with adherence to stipulated laws and regulations, especially regarding procurement, concessions, and payment details. Politicians’ choices, pronouncements and actions will ultimately affect people’s livelihoods and those of generations to come.

It is precisely against this overarching setting of good governance for sustainable development that this article intends to examine the promise and practicality of the proposed Hyatt project to be constructed in Barbados. Why should the construction of any major project consider sustainable development? The concept of sustainable development has rightfully become inherent on any serious discussion of policymaking and project implementation in the annals of national development. The term sustainable development can be described as enhancing quality of life and thus allowing people to live in a healthy environment and improve social, economic and environmental conditions for present and future generations (Oritz et al., 2009: 29).

Furthermore, over the last decade, there have been several proposals and initiatives pushed by the Government of Barbados for bringing the notion of ‘greening’ into national development. PM Stuart, in the foreword of the Green Economy Scoping Study (GESS) contended that: “What is critical for Barbados and other Small Island Developing States (SIDS) is that the Green Economy debate recognizes our structural vulnerabilities, offers a model to assist us in further realising our sustainable development aspirations, and creates the institutional platform that would enable us to participate in innovative partnerships in the fight to save our planet, against mounting unsustainable consumption and production patterns”. Surely, as the leader of Government, and the person with whom planning permission for the Hyatt revolves, PM Stuart must believe what he is on record of advocating.

The construction is proposed for the Carlisle Bay area which is within the precincts of the UNESCO designated world heritage site of historic Bridgetown and the popular Browne’s Beach. Indeed, the intended construction will be done beachside, and it is to be multiple-storeys (15), and is expected to bring significant economic returns to a virtual dormant city area. Unfortunately, the seeming attempts by the current administration to sift through the broiling political exchanges and to go ahead with the project even in the absence of an environmental impact assessment (EIA) are alarming. An EIA is the ‘process of evaluating the likely environmental consequences of a proposed major action significantly affecting the natural and man-made environment’ (Wathern, 1988). The concerns in Barbados and specific to the Hyatt are crucial and are inclusive of social, economic, environmental, and cultural factors.

While it is fair to say that urban development and renewal are necessary for the greater Bridgetown area, there are several constraints mitigating against the Hyatt project. The sheer magnitude of the proposed Hyatt project makes it economically promising. Yet, one cannot refuse to engage the residents and citizens of Barbados, and certainly one cannot get around discussing the key issues of resource efficiency, reducing waste and the use of toxic substances, enhancing water efficiency and sustainable site development, transportation, as well as raising the consciousness of practitioners in the construction in a Heritage area that is also on the coastline offering a major open-window to the sea. Despite the potential economic goods, the Hyatt project may negatively and profoundly alter the character of the Bridgetown area in ways that are unrecoverable. The very thought of likely creating environmental disaster is antithetical to sustainable development and fashioning a green economy.

In real terms, Barbados is falling short on governance. By governance, this article considers “how one gets to act, through what types of interactions (deliberation, negotiation, self-regulation or authoritative choice) and the extent to which actors adhere to collective decisions. It involves the level and scope of political allocation, the dominant orientation of state, and other institutions and their interactions” (Eden and Hampson 1997, p.362). After 50 years of Independence, there is no doubt that Barbados is compelled to ensure that its governance structures organise negotiation processes, determine objectives, influence motivations, set standards, perform allocation functions, monitor compliance, impose penalties, initiate and/or reduce conflict, and resolve disputes among the many stakeholders some of whom would obviously be external to Barbados.

Nevertheless, and specifically dealing with construction in a sustainable manner, the GESS recognises that: ‘The construction of commercial and residential buildings puts a strain on natural and human resources through energy use, land use, the removal of natural materials, transportation of construction materials, liquid and solid waste generation, poor utilisation and recycling of building materials and the use of hazardous building materials’. With the Government knowing and articulating these factors, why would the Freundel Stuart administration appear to be dodging the prime opportunity to discuss at a national level these environmental and greening concerns as they relate to the Hyatt project?

The DLP’s 2013 Manifesto pledge at page 49 states that: “The preservation of the natural environment is absolutely critical to the social and economic future of Barbados. For example, tourism, the major foreign exchange earner is dependent on the natural resource base of the economy as a source of land to provide tourism infrastructure and the provision of water, food, a clean marine environment, and natural attractions such as the Harrison’s Cave. Government has an inescapable responsibility to assume the lead responsibility for ensuring that the environment is managed effectively. The process of environmental care is the concern of every citizen and resident of Barbados (my emphasis in bold italics). Is it a definite walk away from the DLP’s pledge of 2013 when the Prime Minister and his Cabinet fail to utilise the tools of an EIA and make available forums for engaging the public on the Hyatt project. The EIA is therefore an anticipatory, participatory, environmental management tool, the most visible manifestation of which is the environmental impact statement that would be derived from the findings of the technocrats and state officials (Wood and Dejeddour, 1992: 3). There are too many interlinking issues that are critical to Barbados’ sustainable development which cannot be overlooked if good governance best practices are to be followed.

109 responses to “Promise and Practicality of Hyatt: Sifting Through the Absence of an EIA”


  1. If what Dame Millers concern is true, namely that the 173 year old Bethel Methodist Church car park floods at high tide (and that would have to be from some form of water borne tank), then that depth is too shallow to accommodate a 15 storey building constructing it on basement/ underground floors, IT MUST BE CONSTRCTED ON PILES, and that is of great concern too, piles eventually shift, corrode and sink by weight and settlement…. She is correct and any go ahead is a risk, courting a future danger and possibly disaster.

    Being so close to the waters edge, Climate Change denotes sea level rise due to global warming, be that as it may whether its true or not, but more of a conviction is the movement of tectonic plates that gives the illusion of sea level rise. Over a relatively short space of time, from where my grandparents reside (on the beach front) the sea has encroached considerably. Even at well known Sixmens, all houses on the beach front had to be relocated inland.

    AN ALTERNATIVE SIGHT or BUSINESS VENTURE CAN BE PROPOSED. If the investors are so keen to do business here, it can take the form of harnessing the projected clientele and spread it across our already network of hotel infrastructures and help the economy.

    There are too many concerns and issues related to this Issue of Hyatt.

    EXTREME CAUSION IS ADVISE


  2. THE UGLY BATHOMET HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO GIVE IT THE GREEN LIGHT….ELECTIONS AROUND THE CORNER, PLUS THAT WHITE DOG SAY HE CAN MAKE BAJANS SUFFER


  3. It would have been useful to hear Grenville address the environmental concerns many have expressed about the project.


  4. A funny article.

     

    Arthur calls for Jepter’s head over worthless comments

    Added by Kaymar Jordan on January 31, 2017.

    Saved under Local News, Politics

    “I tremble for my country!”

    This was former Prime Minister and Minister of Finance Owen Arthur’s response to a suggestion by one of Government’s lead economic spokesmen that the Barbados dollar has no real value to speak of.

    Addressing a political meeting of the ruling Democratic Labour Party last weekend, Parliamentary Secretary in the Ministry of Finance and Economic Affairs Senator Jepter Ince, while shrugging off recent talk of a monetary devaluation, argued that no value could be applied to the Barbados dollar since it was not recognized internationally.

    “You cannot devalue anything that has no value,” Ince asserted, adding, “I cannot travel with Barbados dollars when I go to the United States.”

    However, Ince’s comments almost knocked Arthur off his feet.

    In fact, the former leader admitted to being quite shaken by the “contemplation that a person who can give of such perfect and profound ignorance” was occupying a place at the centre of Government and in the Chris Sinckler-led Ministry of Finance as he went on to pour cold water on the suggestion that the Barbados dollar was worthless.

    “What he is trying to say is that the dollar cannot be converted. Of course the dollar can’t be converted easily. You can’t go and convert Barbados dollars easily so into US currency, but it has a value,” Arthur stressed.

    “The value is two to one, and it has been so from 1970 something,” he stressed while taking a pot shot at Ince, who he said had gone on record once “as not knowing the difference between the fiscal deficit and a physical deficit and has referred to the fiscal deficit as a physical deficit.

    “It really means that any salary being paid to Mr Jepter Ince is a cost overrun,” Arthur continued, while insisting that “it is a staggering ignorance that somebody does not know that the Barbados dollar is valued at two to one US.

    “Lord man! You can now better begin to understand why this country is in such great peril; that somebody at the centre of Government can be so profoundly ignorant about financial affairs, but be in the Ministry of Finance.”

    During his address to the DLP meeting on Sunday at the Princess Margaret School, Ince had attacked Arthur for suggesting that Government should enter into a formal arrangement with the International Monetary Fund (IMF), saying it was evident that the former prime minister had a “hidden agenda”.

    “So when he says to us go to the IMF and get funding, he knows very well that you only go the IMF when you have balance of payment problems . . . . When you cannot meet your foreign reserves requirement is when you go to the IMF. The IMF doesn’t give you no money for any infrastructure development,” Ince warned.

    Asked to respond to those charges, Arthur said: “I’m not even going to go there”.

    However, he went as far as to call for Ince’s head over his latest pronouncements on the Barbados dollar.

    “For me, it would have been a dismissible offence,” he told Barbados TODAY, while also recommending that the parliamentary secretary be made to undergo a psychiatric evaluation.

    “I don’t want to libel him, but it may be discovered that he may be in the wrong Government institution,” Arthur added.

  5. Violet C Beckles CUP Avatar
    Violet C Beckles CUP

    You All need to study from the ground up , The crooks, liars and scumbags in the DBLP government have no proof they own the land, Have no Clear Title , Investment election fraud,

    You all need to focus on who own the land , History of the land, You all get tied up in long talking ,This is why nothing ever gets done right and take even long with cost overrun,

    People love to talk without looking for facts nor history,

    Who own the land? , When did it become land of the Crown, Who was paid,? how much was paid ,

    Bay Plantation Deed from black John Beckles 1930s sold to Beatrice Henry now Violet Beckles Estate, and not white John Becckles who died 1823 base on lies of the National Trust Books ,
    We can hear the bull being played on the government brain washing radio now Jan/Feb2017,

    if they have so much money now from the IMF or CHINA scam, WHY DONT THEY FINISH COW AND BIZZZY SCAM AT FOUR SEASONS?

    WE ALSO HAVE THAT TITLE DEED ALSO NOT LISTED IN BARBADOS HISTORY AS BLACK ROCK PLANTATION,

    Maybe you all need an iPhone 7 with 14meg pix to get the picture, DO YOUR HOMEWORK FIRST, BRING THE FACTS.

    YOU ALL BEHAVING JUST LIKE THE DBLP AND GET THE SAME ENDING ALL THE TIME , MASSIVE LAND FRAUD , BANKING FRAUD , LAUNDERING FRAUD THAT WILL HAVE TO BE PAID FOR SOMEDAY,, THEN YOU WILL KNOW WHAT MORE TAXES MEAN ALONG WITH BEING BRECK,

  6. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/01/31/hoodwinked/

    I totally agree with Owen on this, Fruendel is fraudulent.

  7. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    On this Owen Arthur is lying…the 2 to 1 conversion of the Bajan dollars to the US only goes one way, in Barbados only…23 years ago I changed some bajan currency in the US and got 30 cents for every bajan dollar….on this Ince is right, the bajan money ain’t worth shit in the US, I would imagine with all those multiple downgrades, it’s worth even less now.

    Politicians must stop lying by default, I doubt Owen ever travelled further than Trinidad or Jamaica with bajan currency and he sure as hell never tried to convert any in the US….you used to get a few more cents for it in Canada up to about 4 years ago.

    “What he is trying to say is that the dollar cannot be converted. Of course the dollar can’t be converted easily. You can’t go and convert Barbados dollars easily so into US currency, but it has a value,” Arthur stressed.

    “The value is two to one, and it has been so from 1970 something,” he stressed while taking a pot shot at Ince, who he said had gone on record once “as not knowing the difference between the fiscal deficit and a physical deficit and has referred to the fiscal deficit as a physical deficit.”

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    Well Well & Consequences

    Wilggeese…hardside Maloney cannot make anyone in Barbados suffer, if the pending Shitbomb that is the Hyatt goes sideways, all investors will pull out and Maloney will never get a project funded again….by international funders, bajans will still be alive and surviving.

    Maloney fueled by stupid government ministers only believes he is important to the survival of bajans….in his thieving head.


  9. The pain that Arthur is feeling is GUILT the guilt of placing barbados economy on a fiscal cliff and having no authority of implementing Privatization to correct.


  10. I understand there were plans to build a hotel on the proposed site for Hyatt and all the necessary studies/assessments were undertaken, including an EIA.

    Could it be that this inept DLP administration is relying on the results of those reports as the basis to authorize construction of Hyatt?

  11. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Ya see, that is why politians cannot be trusted, you cannot call Fruendel an honorable man when you know beyond a doubt that he is lying to the people and will continue to lie to the people to be reelected, there is not one thing honorable about a liar using deceit to get what he wants.

    Arthur cant be serious about having the people’s back when he is being 2 faced about it, call Fruendel what he is a fraud and a liar, who wants to be reelected so that he can be silent, arrogant, negligent and incompetent all over again for another five years, while taking advice from broke ass tourists and minority business crooks about what they think is best for the island and refusing to address anything that negatively impacts the black majority or seek their counsel…tell it as it really is…….

    “. . . I remember that it was said that no public servants would have lost their jobs,” the former Prime Minister said, in light of the recent decision to send home 3,000 Government workers.

    Still bruising from the harsh ridicule he got at the time for suggesting that privatization was the way forward, Arthur further recalled that the election was won by the DLP on the basis that “they will not be selling any assets, but Arthur wants to sell assets”.

    “I was brutalized by an old lady in an [television] ad who said that ‘Owen Arthur wants to privatize’ and now the Government is privatizing.”

    However, in retrospect, Arthur told Barbados TODAY: “I was honest enough to tell the country that I could not see how the country was asset rich and cash strapped and I couldn’t see how we could get through without selling assets and I was slaughtered for it.”

    Therefore, he believes Barbadians need to be cautious in terms of all the DLP has to say about the economic way forward.

    “I have heard the Prime Minister [on no devaluation and no IMF]. I have to say he is an honourable man, but I also know he would have said that nobody was going to lose their job,” the former leader said with a chuckle, while recalling Mark Antony’s comments about Brutus in William Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar.

    “Freundel is a superman,” Arthur added.

    Former Prime Minister Owen Arthur & Prime Minister Freundel Stuart
    On a more serious note, he said one only had to look at the way in which the foreign exchange reserves were plummeting to get an idea of the critical condition of the country.

    “. . . I remember that it was said that no public servants would have lost their jobs,” the former Prime Minister said, in light of the recent decision to send home 3,000 Government workers.

    Still bruising from the harsh ridicule he got at the time for suggesting that privatization was the way forward, Arthur further recalled that the election was won by the DLP on the basis that “they will not be selling any assets, but Arthur wants to sell assets”.

    “I was brutalized by an old lady in an [television] ad who said that ‘Owen Arthur wants to privatize’ and now the Government is privatizing.”

    However, in retrospect, Arthur told Barbados TODAY: “I was honest enough to tell the country that I could not see how the country was asset rich and cash strapped and I couldn’t see how we could get through without selling assets and I was slaughtered for it.”

    Therefore, he believes Barbadians need to be cautious in terms of all the DLP has to say about the economic way forward.

    “I have heard the Prime Minister [on no devaluation and no IMF]. I have to say he is an honourable man, but I also know he would have said that nobody was going to lose their job,” the former leader said with a chuckle, while recalling Mark Antony’s comments about Brutus in William Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar.

    “Freundel is a superman,” Arthur added.

    Former Prime Minister Owen Arthur & Prime Minister Freundel Stuart
    On a more serious note, he said one only had to look at the way in which the foreign exchange reserves were plummeting to get an idea of the critical condition of the country.”


  12. George,
    I am sure you know better, but you must carefully edit your submissions before you publish them. Do you really mean this”…AN ALTERNATIVE SIGHT…” or do you mean “site”?
    What Bajans have to do is to ensure that All their representatives lobby for two important things: 1. A change to the Constitution to put in that “all beaches in Barbados are PUBLIC. Thus it will be clearly understood by all developers and investors that “nah beach is mine” is a constitutional right. 2. Ensure that the Hyatt Investors, the Boat Yard People, and the lodgers at the Pirate Cove, who are enforcing a “closed beach policy, by having entertainment on the beach and fencing off that portion of the beach. That entire stretch of beach, from the Pierced to the Hilton, MUST be accessible to ALL persons; Bajans and Visitors, at any time day or night. It is one of the few things we have left to call our own.
    Well Well,
    Why must you ALWAS be so negative? There are Hyatt Hotels all over the world. Why must this one be “the pending Shitbomb that is the Hyatt…”? Can’t you think that this may be one of the most beautiful Hyatts anywhere around? God girl you can do better. It is time you changed your attitude. Get help. You need it.


  13. In light of all the caffufle over the Brigetown/South coast sewage treatment plants, allegedly now running only on a “wing and a prayer and with both engines on fire”, if the Hyatt upper management keep lending their name to this project without some very well thought out, do-able and environmentally appropriate plans for sewage treatment they would really have to have rocks for brains, is all I can say.

  14. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin….you need help when you cannot see reality, all the evidence points to the years of neglect of the sewage plant now impacting any large buildings that require sewage maintanance, you jackass, the existing ready to stop working completely sewage plant cannot manage anymore, because of government neglect.

    If ya would stop trying so hard to be a government pimp, ya would see reality. Whenever you dumb yardfowls dont want to face reality you pull out the negative card, well keep pulling it until the Hyatt Shitbomb explodes, if it is even built yet, cause I aint see no 4 seasons yet and international investors are not as easily robbed as government ministers, something thiefing Maloney will learn….Alvin dont get me started on your stupidity.

    The US for years have been fooling Caribbean people about a nonexistant special relationship they had with Caribbean people….look how special it is now..lol.

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/01/31/trump-fears/

    “An increasing number of Barbadian Muslims had their United States visas revoked in recent weeks, while there has been an upsurge in the number of application denials, says secretary of the Barbados Muslim Association (BMA) Suleiman Bulbulia.

    And, following US president Donald Trump’s controversial executive banning travel to the US by citizens of seven predominantly Muslim countries, Bulbulia anticipates an even tougher time for local Muslims looking to travel to the US.

    The BMS official said he was not sure if any member of the Barbadian Muslim population had come from any of the banned countries.

    However, he feared members of his community would feel the effects of the order.

    “Added to the trend and mindset that is coming from the US government is an apprehension on the part of Muslims when it comes to travelling there. Within recent months, even before Trump came into power there have been incidents where we have had persons having their visas revoked or not getting a visa to travel to the [United] States for business or tourist purposes.”


  15. @ WW&C

    I cannot agree with you on this one. Perhaps you should avail yourself of more information on this issue before making uninformed comments.

    You cannot compare the US$ or the UK£ with the BD$, since the former are international currencies that can be used for international trade. There aren’t any rules stipulating a country has to accept or trade in BD$.

    The exchange rate of the US$ in the Eastern Caribbean, for example, is listed at EC$2.70. However, I have never visited a Caribbean island where there is adherence to that exchange rate. Banks usually convert US$ at EC2.65 or EC$2.66, while some business establishments go as low as EC$2.50.

    Perhaps what Jester Ince meant to say was money does not have any “intrinsic value.” Unlike valuable items such as gold, silver or diamonds, which could be converted to jewelry, money can only be used to purchase goods and services and its value is specific to the amount depicted on it.

    Notes are defined as having “extrinsic value,” in that they are considered currency because the Central Bank carries a proclamation and guarantee by the government that the currency depicted on the note will be honoured. For example, if you look at the BD$ you will see the following proclamation, printed under the “Central Bank of Barbados” notation: “THESE NOTES ARE LEGAL TENDER FOR THE PAYMENT OF ANY AMOUNT.”


  16. @ Alvin Cummins

    Hello dear sir. I am sure that the best of us at some time will mis-spell or otherwise have typos. But I searched for your ‘alternative sight’ and the phrase did not even appear in the document. Nonetheless, communication has more than one aspect. What did you gather from the article? Surely you understand what is being said. Too trivial for a man your age, The questions are on the necessity of an EIA and the need to address the citizens on several concerns. Am I not right?


  17. On the question of whether the BBD has value of ourse Stephen and Arthur are correct and Ince is spouting ish. What he means is the BBD is not easily convertible read a soft currency BUT there is an expectation that the central bank Barbados will redeem at 2:1. The day the central bank cannot defend the peg all he’ll will break lose.

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  18. This article is excellent and highlights the extreme dangers of the proposed Hyatt Hotel project! Additionally, very experienced, trained professionals should be involved in these discussions as opposed to persons who are relatively inexperienced in the construction industry. The Heritage of Barbados is in serious jeopardy!


  19. GEORGE,
    YOU KNOW ME. IF I AM WRONG I WILL SAY I AM WRONG. I FALL ON MY OWN SWORD AND OFFER ADJECT APOLOGIES. THE PHRASE WAS NOT FROM YOUR SUBMISSION, BUT THAT WRITTEN BY “NINEOFNINE”. (Jan23rd Para.3.) THE REPLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DIRECTED AT HIM. I AM SORRY.
    HOWEVER, I DO AGREE ON THE ABSOLUTE NECESSITY FOR AN EIA ; EVEN THOUGH I WONDER IF ONE WAS DONE WHEN THE LONDON BOURNE TOWERS WERE CONSTRUCTED.One must be done and open to the Public for perusal and thorough examination. These studies are usually thorough and conducted by reputable companies, and I have no doubt that one will be done. It may not have been completed yet, and this may be one of the conditions that delayed the Prime Minister, snd Minister responsible for Town Planning, signing off on permission to construct. I too look forward to the EIA, for that ‘site” is where I spent all my formative years, and my birthplace is not too far away, in Wellington Street. It is there I learned to swim, and where I learned to construct and sail/and swim behind “pond-boats and sail boats. The beach that has grown begin is a gift from nature, and must be protected and preserved for our children and children, to enjoy the unfettered access that I enjoyed as a child growing there. The entire stretch of beach must be preserved, and any investors in the Hyatt must have a clear understanding of this fact, and permission to even construct must be withheld, until they sign off on this understanding. I examined an EIA, some years ago for the Sugar Point Proposal, that was on display at the Barbados Port Inc. It was quite thorough, and the requirements for preservation of the environment were quite thorough. So I have no doubt that the EIA for the Hyat, will be just as thorough. We tend to be too anxious and premature in our judgements.
    One must not forget, however, that not only the government, but the Hyatt Corporation, and even,Maloney, will have advisors to cover all the bases. I cannot imagine the Hyatt corporation, lending their good name to a project that they have not vetted, to the satisfaction of all concerned and fulfilled all the concernes that have to be addressed, including an EIA, and the Town Hall Meetings required.


  20. How would the sewerage from the Hyatt Hotel be controlled and treated in order to prevent contamination of our lovely Carlisle Bay and Browne’s beaches?

  21. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/01/31/one-solution-only/

    Grenville better mix and match his candidates, trump the self-proclaimed greatest businessman in just 10 days has started the destruction and downward spiral of the US…

    ….business people do not know how to operate in administrative, judicial or executive environments as it relates to managing a country….Grenville is fooling himself….lol

  22. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “Artax February 1, 2017 at 8:07 AM #
    @ WW&C

    I cannot agree with you on this one. Perhaps you should avail yourself of more information on this issue before making uninformed comments.

    You cannot compare the US$ or the UK£ with the BD$, since the former are international currencies that can be used for international trade. There aren’t any rules stipulating a country has to accept or trade in BD$.”

    Art…if you read again….you will see my argument dies not relate to the bajan’s dollar trade ability. …it relates solely to it’s conversion rate,..read, shopping in the US, running out of US currency and converting bajan to US, just this side of worthless…..read my comment again.

    Trading would be a different ballgame as I am sure that is why there is a central bank with foreign reserves..


  23. As Grenville said, it is technically quite possible for Hyatt to include their OWN sewerage treatment plant within their plans for the structure. Indeed, If we had an intelligent government in place when this whole sewerage thing was originally contemplated, serious contemplation would have been given to the use of multiple small treatment systems – even down to household units, as an alternative approach.
    Unfortunately, our governments have ALWAYS defaulted to the options that provide the highest opportunities for bribes.

    With respect to the foundations, even a 40 story building can be built in a quicksand pit nowadays – given the level of technology….. so technically, that is not the issue.

    The issue (and someone needs to tell Grenville this,) is that the PRACTICALLY of these options being successfully deployed in Barbados is about the same or less, than the sewerage system being successfully run, the Four Seasons being successfully completed, the Sugar Factory being built, and St Joseph residents getting running water – come the dry season.

    Talking about what is ‘possible’ (if structural engineers like himself are paid millions of dollars in consultancies) is not very helpful to Barbados.

  24. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    That was solely in response to Arthur saying Ince was lying or his head should role because of what he said about the dollars near worthlessness in the US, which is true, it cannot be denied like most people want to…

    ,……..I travelled to Trindad one year, the bds was 3 to 1…..a couple years ago it went down to 2.50 to one, it used to be more in Guyana, they suspended converting bds money…..so something is causing this loss in conversion value.


  25. If Owen wants a third bite at the apple he should say so openly
    His utterances are sounding more like a person who has their eyes on the prize
    Unfortunately his utterances would not serve him well as Barbadians see both full blown privatization and IMF as a path out of economic dilemna as the boogy man
    His efforts to be chicken little would carry lilttle or no sway


  26. @ WW&C

    And you need to read and understand my contribution as well.

    You are incorrect to state the BD$ does not have value because if you ran out of US$ you cannot convert BD$ to US$. That is utter nonsense.

    What is there about: “You cannot compare the US$ or the UK£ with the BD$, since the former are INTERNATIONAL CURRENCIES that can be used for INTERNATIONAL TRADE. There aren’t any rules stipulating a country has to ACCEPT or trade in BD$” that you cannot understand?

    In other words, whereas the US$ and UK£ can be used to purchase goods and services internationally, the BD$ cannot be used.

    However, based on your comments, it is clear that you do not understand the issue.


  27. I contend that our tourism industry needs restructuring to follow the Airbnb model,this would obviate any need for such structures,especially on our shore line.

    It is time for us to believe in ourselves and do things to the benefit of all of us.

  28. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Art…say what you want if it makes you feel better, in Guyana now of all places, Bds currency cannot be converted to anything…comprende…no value.

    I dont know if they still convert it in the US, it’s been 23 years ago I got 30 cents for it, and about 40 cents for it in Canada 4 years ago, I do not know if it’s still converted there, I said, it’s this side of worthless in the metroplolises, you cannot stop me from saying that….that is my story and am sticking to it.

    For paying university tuition and trading etc, there is a central bank in bim where you can purchase foreign exchange, it’s not rocket science, bds currency I dont know to be actively trading on any international foreign exchange, I could be wrong, I never checked.

    https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/02/01/cancer-survivor-reaches-100/

    Why do some doctors in Barbados believe to know when someone has already lived all their life…who gives these ignoramuses this god mentality.

  29. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Art…That is one of the reasons it would make sense to adopt the US currency, if trump don’t destroy it….that would eliminate Barbados’ reliance on so much foreign exchange for every purchase.


  30. @Alvin Cummins
    Accepted sir.
    More broadly, I am not against Hyatt coming to Barbados because I am sure many will get employment. That also translates into saying that if Hyatt comes and a site or sites inwards of the coastline, or in other areas of Greater Bridgetown would hardly diminish job opportunities. So I am suggesting, disclosure and information by the Government is long overdue. Barbadians are not stupid, with adequate information, Barbadians would want what is best now and into the foreseeable future while safeguarding their offspring who too must live on this precious rock.


  31. The Hyatt would not contemplate an idea of building a hotel on a plot of land without first getting advice from professional engineers and architects.
    All this belly aching without sound proof serves absolutely nothing and an exercise in futilty to distract from the importance of the project which is to create jobs and breathe some new life into the dilapidated area of bridgetown
    As for Damme Bille remarks what she ought to be asking herself how much effort did she contribute in bringing a plan in helping to revitialise that area of bridgetown

  32. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    ACs….who does yhat plot of land belong to, I cant remember hearing, is there litigation about the ownership…..Hyatt investors better do their homework.

  33. Bernard Codrington. Avatar
    Bernard Codrington.

    @ WW& C
    @ ARTAX

    The value of a currency whether domestically or internationally depends on its acceptability by the players in the market. It is the liability of a government which issues it and guarantees its worth.
    With regard to the reserves currencies $US and #UK, they fluctuate in value according to market confidence in their economies. Money is only a token. It is a promise to pay.
    In a sense the Barbados dollar is already dollarised.
    So you are both right.

  34. Bernard Codrington. Avatar
    Bernard Codrington.

    The above statement is not an approval of the call to dollarise the Barbados dollar. Having one’s own currency gives one greater control over one’s economic affairs. That is one of the planks and meaning of Independence not a flag and National Anthem.


  35. @Bernard

    Thanks for the clarification, you had us worried for a moment. Yes, what is the definition of a Barbadian.


  36. Well Well & Consequences February 1, 2017 at 9:12 AM #

    “…….in Guyana now of all places, Bds currency cannot be converted to anything…comprende…no value.”

    @ WW&C

    I usually agree with your comments, but on this occasion you are “punching above your head” and making silly uninformed comments.

    Guyana’s Central Bank temporarily suspended the purchase Barbados and Trinidad currencies to PROTECT the country’s FOREIGN RESERVES and not because the BD$ does not have any value.

    Since there is an unrestricted access to US$ in Guyana, people and businesses have been using the banks and cambios there to exchange TT$ and BD$ to facilitate the PURCHASE of US$.

    Guyana’s Central Bank reports indicated that, in 2014 BD$8M and TT$9.1M was in circulation, but has moved to BD$13 and TT$38M respectively.

    However, persons conducting legitimate business and producing the necessary invoices and other substantiating documents, are allowed to trade in TT & BD currency at the Central Bank.

  37. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Art…that means the same damn thing, why else would they want to protect their reserve from bds currency…..with too much floating around….did they suspend the US, the EURO, the falling pound…there are even more of those floating around…..ask yourself why not.

    That is what central banks are for….to protect a countries reserves….stop reading from the book.

  38. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Besides…you are brilliant Art, no denying it, but withn the people’s experience with Barbados’ own central bank, you do know that none of them tend to follow their own written handbooks on rules, regulations, procedures and protocols right, everyone complains enough about them on here.


  39. @WW&C

    It is useless engaging you further in this discussion, because your comments clearly indicate you do not understand the issue.

    An individual making multiple contributions to a topic is not determining factor of his or her knowledge of a subject.

    Perhaps you should read a few books as well.


  40. @ WW&C

    Let’s agree to disagree…. after all you are one of my favourite BU contributors.

  41. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ George C. BrathwaiteFebruary 1, 2017 at 8:08 AM
    “Alvin Cummins
    Hello dear sir. I am sure that the best of us at some time will mis-spell or otherwise have typos. But I searched for your ‘alternative sight’ and the phrase did not even appear in the document. Nonetheless, communication has more than one aspect. What did you gather from the article? Surely you understand what is being said. Too trivial for a man your age, The questions are on the necessity of an EIA and the need to address the citizens on several concerns. Am I not right?”

    By George, why are you responding to a man who has not only lost his ‘sight’ in identifying the blogger who made the homophonic error in his choice of word but has also been so stricken with self-induced senility that his intellectual capacity to see the forest for the trees has totally degenerated.

    Your article might make for good reading providing a measure of academic stimulus and intellectual exercise. But what it lacks is a discussion on the most pertinent factor controlling this entire imaginary project. The gravamen of the ‘site’s’ projected financing has been a major ‘oversight’ on your part.

    Hyatt’s Board of Directors has made it clear there will be no financing of the construction of this erection with Hyatt’s role limited to its marketing and management of the hotel operations.

    What you should be concerned about is who are the ‘obscure’ investors with their ‘esoteric’ sources of funds.

    Are these ‘sleeping’ investors behaving like the people who are the arcane members of the recent political movements to arrive on the Bajan political scene?

    You are aware of the financiers to the Sam Lord’s phoenix which is expected to magically rise in the East any time now. You accept the promise of Butch to recreate Beaches on the West Coast because he is wearing similar ‘sandals’ on the South Coast.

    So why is there so much secrecy around this sleeping giant of a construction monster which can bring a new lease of vital life to that ailing sector?

    That’s a darn lot of rocking hard cement to import to raise Fumble’s financial appendage in the air.

    Where would the foreign money come from to finance these foreign inputs? Certainly not the NIS shares already taken out of the Emera mess of forex pottage nor from the dividends payable from an already depleted housing credit fund.

    Why don’t you raise that question to the ‘powers-that-be’ and see how fast red herrings are thrown in your path?

    Let Alvin, the pedantic ‘nitpicking’ fool, provide you with a denouement to not only the Hyatt flaccid funding mystery but also one to the Pierhead marina and the Cruise Ship Cruise terminal.

  42. Anonymouse _The Gazer Avatar
    Anonymouse _The Gazer

    Comment from the peanut gallery.

    I believe that the Trinidadian dollar had a number of devaluations and as such different exchange rates over time may be possible. I seem to recall that $TT now floats against the $US (I may be wrong)

    In Barbados, the spread between buying and selling is quite small but in Trinidad it can be significant.


  43. @millertheanunnaki

    Firstly, I will differ from Alvin, but nonetheless I will give him respect and revert to no ad hominem contentions.
    That aside, I do agree with you that detailed information on some of those inside players is needed. Hence my call for the Government to provide relevant information. I deliberately did not venture to mention Mark Maloney, nor did I proceed to speculate as to those entities that will likely extract much more than may be reasonable. I truly wanted to keep the article to what is necessary before one brick is laid. You do raise validpoints of inquiry. Lastly, be easy on Alvin, his loyalty is unbending and that may account for mix ups in sight site and yet sight again. Be kind to him for my sake.


  44. GEORGE,
    NO NEED TO DEFEND ME, ESPECIALLY TO Miller, after all he is an Ananuki.
    You graciously accepted my apology and that episode is ended. People like Miller, because of their own foibles, always want to prolong something they see as an opportunity to “put me down”, but you know I am made of sterner stuff. Miller should understand that the same way his past master; OSA, was able to raise funds to finance World Cup,and build a new prison,among other things, and find financiers (the government), with money borrowed “for a rainy day”; which we are still paying back today; a drain on our foreign reserves, and an outstanding part of the National Debt, money will be found for the Hyatt. The same pattern that existed when they won the election twenty two years ago; with the island crawling slowly back to viability, is being played out again. If they win the government in the next election they will have a better playing field; just like they did then, than what the DLP would have inherited when they won in 2008.


  45. When,oh when will we in this little 2×4 tinnin badoo,stop with the politics and accept the fact that thanks to both administrations we are in deep doodoo and require all hands on deck and to stop looking back but apply their backs to the grindstone in order to chart a path forward for the SS Bim,in order to get it out of treacherous waters it is foundering in?

    Too much to ask for,as we too love to snipe at each other and talk all over our faces about trump………we like it so.


  46. Barbados $ are easily changeable on the streets of Georgetown by money changers BD$1 / GUY$90 or in many Cambios BD$1 / GUY$93.

    This happens 7 days a week and has been the case for the last 8 months I have been currently residing in Georgetown.


  47. @Alvin

    Vincent is correct, leave the politics outside. You criticized the forex borrowed for a rainy day yet your party spent it all and we are left with a foreign currency crisis. Imagine if that 2 billion (Artax can confirm) was not nested for a rainy day.

    Forget the damn politics!


  48. I just wish we as a people would see Barbados foremost instead of being colour blind and rooted to partisan sides. Things are realistically tough and governance is not going well in Barbados. Yes, I am and will continue to be a member of a political party; but I am first a citizen and loyal son of Barbados. Let us exchange ideas and seek solutions to very real concerns that all partiues have put us here and more than likely, all parties will be needed to pull us out of the deepening rut. Going back into my shell.

  49. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Art….it’s a robust debate you are my dude, thing is, you do get conflicting double soeak from politicians, that’s why we shoild never listen to them….this is Owen in some interview or other…lol

    “OWEN ARTHUR — Barbados, we have a problem! “I tremble for my country!” This was former Prime Minister and Minister of Finance Owen Arthur’s response to a suggestion by one of Government’s lead economic spokesmen that the Barbados dollar has no real value to speak of.”


  50. In doffing my hat to the learned Bernard I have for a long time suggested Barbados would be better off dollarising its currency.Barbados Independence is a myth,a fiction of the DLP’s sick mind and the BLP going along for the ride and the POWER it gives to the little tweedledees and tweedledums.This guy Trump will show these pot-hounds shortly which God they are serving.Pray AA and Jet Blue aren’t read the riot act by Bannon et al.All offers are OFF the table with this new administration.They have jettisoned common sense.Bullying is the order of the day.

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