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rigg-town-hall-noticeIt seems like yesterday BU was at the vanguard of highlighting the indifference shown by the then Barbados Labour Party government to how agricultural land was being reclassified and subdivide to plant concrete. Eight years later under a Democratic Labour Party government nothing has changed.

The featured notice was published in the Nation newspaper on the 21 October 2016. A review of the notification shows it to be inadequate. While the notice advises the date of of the Town Hall there is no mention of the specifics of the subdivision.

BU was able to secureย  a few pages from the EIA volume 2 โ€“it relates to the development of 104 acres volume 2 we understand is 75 acres โ€“ to change its use to residential and commercial. That is a total of 179 acres. Barbadians have remained very passive on most issues – except Cahill –ย  which translates to this project moving forward.

These fields and hills -what are they becoming!


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119 responses to “RIDGE, Christ Church: 179 Acres to be Reclassified to Plant Concrete”


  1. COME ON BU RUM SHOP BRIMBLERS
    COME AND TALK YOUR SHYTE
    ALTHOUGH YOU CANT CHANGE NUTTIN
    TALK EMOTIONALLY TALK ILLOGICALLY TALK IGNORANTLY JUST TALK TALK
    CHALLENGE AND ENGAGE IN ROBUST DISCUSION
    JOIN IN THE DISCUSSION, YOU NEVER KNOW HOW EXPRESSING YOUR VIEW MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

    AFTER 50 YEARS OF FREE EDUCATION IT IS AMAZING THE SHYTE YOU WILL RED BELOW
    BUT ALL ARE ALLOWED TO RUN THEIR MOUT


  2. BRING YOUR “WHACKERS “AND CHOP DOWN THE BUSH SO THE CONCRETE CAN BE PLANTED AS YOU TALK YOUR SHYTE IN YOUR DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR

  3. Violet C Beckles Avatar
    Violet C Beckles

    Government land what,? land being stolen for election time payout, We love to see the title deed they working with,
    More fraud , if the records was in place anyone could have went to find who the land came from and when , Also would know who will make the money on taking farm land for us to import more GMO foods that is killing the people as is the plan ,


  4. @ David, this is a non-story. Is it not apparent to you that the whole region is up for sale. The Caribbean is viewed from the outside as an exotic region.

    The local population and their respective government’s are clueless as to the real value of their region. What a pity.


  5. @Exclaimer

    Nothing wrong with reminders, some of us support learning by affirmation -in this case negative.


  6. Does it include the CLICO/Coxfam joint venture land?


  7. Don’t we have enough houses in the area already without building more?

    Coverly is awash with unoccupied units and nearby at Lower Greys, plenty more unoccupied.

    Doesn’t that say we really don’t need any more houses?

    Fill the empty ones first.


  8. Agree with you John.


  9. It is not about providing housing John…
    It is all about making quick money….
    ‘Housing projects’ are convenient mechanisms for scams…
    …and easy to pass off as altruistic…


  10. Thank you David, for raising this issue!!!

    How does “PLANTING” more concrete on a 166 sq.ml plot of land out in the Caribbean Sea address the niggling concerns of so-called “CLIMATE CHANGE” & especially, the increase of CARBON DIOXID/MONOXIDE above our atmosphere?

    Does the current GOV of BIM even care about its international obligations & commitments to Sustainable Development?

    “In 1994, in Barbados, the Global Conference on the Sustainable Development of Small Island Developing States included specific actions and measures at the national, regional and international levels in support of sustainable development. The particular vulnerability of SIDS to climate change, climate variability and sea-level rise featured
    prominently in the Barbados Programme of Action, which identified priority areas and indicated the specific actions needed to address the special challenges faced by the governments of these countries…”

    The UNFCCC document further outlined that:

    “The urgency for action to address the special needs of SIDS by implementing the Barbados Programme of Action and the outcome of the twenty-second special session of the General Assembly were both recognized by the United Nations Millennium Summit in 2000, when governments pledged to address the special needs of SIDS โ€œrapidly and in fullโ€ by 2015. The Summit also urged the international community to ensure that, in the development of a vulnerability index, the special needs of SIDS were taken into account…”

    SEE: http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/publications/cc_sids.pdf

    Further to the above-DOC, was the EFFECTS of CLIMATE CHANGE based on IMPACTS, VULNERABILITIES & ADAPTATION in developing countries in the BELOW-cited DOC:

    https://unfccc.int/resource/docs/publications/impacts.pdf

    The environmental impact of concrete, its manufacture and applications, is complex…

    A major component of concrete is cement, which has its own environmental and social impacts and contributes largely to those of concrete. The cement industry is one of the primary producers of CARBON DIOXIDE, a major greenhouse gas that has irreversible effects on climate change…

    The science is irrefutable: http://www.bipcons.ce.tuiasi.ro/Archive/161.pdf

    Again, Barbados, like Britain totally “IGNORES” what happens in its own backyard but will decide what happens in other people’s…

    Case in point, another RUNAWAY at Heathrow Airport & the environmental impact & the B’dos GOV penchant 4 more & more building on a TINY ISLAND as a GROWTH strategy based on “PLANTING” more CONCRETE STRUCTURES as a fiscal driver 4 a badly managed, beleaguered economy…

    SEE: http://tinyurl.com/j2a263h

    Though we are “COMMANDED” to “WRITE THE VISION” (whatever it is), so someone else will be able to RUN* with it – equally, where there is “NO VISION” the people perish….

    SAD!!!


  11. THE GROTTO …


  12. @TB

    How does Barbados secure the quaintness that makes the island unique. Planting concrete all over the place is like a beautiful face with pimples.


  13. PLANTING CONCRETE DOES NOT GIVE OFF THE AMOUNT OF GA AS THE SHYTE SPEWED ON BU ESPECIALLY WHEN THE DEVIL HIMSELF SPOUTING


  14. Ridge Plantation is comprised of smaller plantations, eg Rycroft, Sugarland, Hope, Small Ridge.

    These smaller plantations are examples of original Quaker ownership.

    There is a field opposite the gap into the Ridge Yard called Hunter’s Pond, a reflection of the early ownership by a Quaker family named Hunter.

    There were up to the turn of the 20th century two burial vaults in the yard at Ridge.

    I reckon both where Quaker burials and they were used I expect as markers to denote the burying ground for the plantation.

    I would not be surprised at all if when sod is turned human remains turn up and those remains will be those of the Quakers and slaves who worked the land and are buried there.

    From the site map it looks like the fields affected are Upper and Lower Cow House and Upper and Lower Seven Acre.

    Dayrells field looks as though it is in too.

    Each field has a name.

    There will be records of output from each field somewhere in the factory records so field yields are probably more important in determining good and bad agricultural lands.

    The table in the report showing the acreages planted at Ridge Plantation vs the tonnes/acre produced are meaningless because the acreage planted usually contains 20% which is deliberately left fallow to recover.

    Yields may very well be understated by 20%!!

    It would be more instructive to see the yield per ace of the 50 acres comprising upper and lower Cow House for example than to be presented with a figure which is possibly very misleading.

    No wonder our leaders make such stupid decisions!!

    The “quaintness” is in the knowledge of how the plantation worked and how it was assembled from the numerous smaller plantations over time and that is difficult to completely destroy, regardless of the concrete that is poured.


  15. … if I were being presented with an argument that yields had fallen, I would want to know the data by field before I based any decision on such an argument.

    I mean …. it is basic common sense.

    I would also want to know where the water would be diverted from to supply the new development.

    The St. Joseph experience is pretty well fresh in our minds!!


  16. @John

    Your definition of quaintness is narrow. The bigger definition is the decimated landscape.


  17. Keep on making sense John
    Here is a dummy arguing with a Bdos scholar about definitions.
    Very few Bajans have walked and explored Barbados like John
    while others sit on their asses talking shite.
    It must be bliss to be dumb or a devil on BU
    WHERE THE HELL IN ANY DICTIONARY IS THERE A STATEMENT THATSAYS THERE IS A BIGGER DEFINITION FOR QUAINTNESS

    RE The bigger definition is the decimated landscape. THIS IS A DECIMATED LANDSCAPE. BULL SHIT!

    ALL OVER THE WORLD THERE ARE LANDSCAPES THAT HAVE BUILDINGS INSTEAD OF BUSH CAUSE NO BODY AINT BUYING CANE SUGAR NO MORE AND WE STOP GROWING IT
    COME ON JOHN
    WRITE SOME MORE STUFF THAT IS REALLY EDIFYING


  18. I understand there are also unoccupied match box houses at Lancaster as well.


  19. @bajans

    Greens, Constant, The Grotto and more. To be fair to government several Lancaster house are occupied.


  20. YES WE ARE NOW A TOY COMPANY
    WE BUILD MATCH BOX HOUSES FOR OUR MATCH BOX TOYS
    WE HAVE GONE TO THE DOG
    IT IS MIRRORED ON BU WHERE NO ONE CAN DISCUS ANYTHING ACCURATELY AND LOGICALLY
    I NOW TRY TO ADOPT THAT STYLE ALTHOUGH I FIND IT VERY VERY HARD TO BE LIKE THE USUAL SEMI ILLITERATE HERE


  21. @ David

    In a UN@HABITAT eco-scientific research DOC on the effects of “Urbanization & Climate Change in Small Island Developing States” concluded that: “the majority of the real estate and critical infrastructure are located in urban agglomerations โ€“ particularly so in Small Island Developing States, where the majority of these assets are also located on vulnerable land along the coast. In line with global trends, even the smallest islands are becoming increasingly urbanized and human settlements are evolving as the prime economic, social and political centers. UN-Habitat advocates that the process of urbanization should be recognized and managed as a national priority…”

    SEE: http://tinyurl.com/ht7tn6c

    If B’dos & other Caribbean countries have learned nothing from the #HaitanCrisis given back to back episodes of calamitous phenomena (i.e. EARTHQUAKE, CHOLERA & HURRICANE MATTHEW) – maybe the egregious concept of “DENIAL-PHOBIA” is more inspissated than would be openly admitted…

    SEE: http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2012/02/01/climate-change-in-haiti/

    #SMH


  22. Why do we not have a land use policy for this country….identify land that will be used only for residential,agriculture and commercial purposesfor the next 30-50 years.

    Why are we allowing land to be taken out of agriculture on a wily nily basis?


  23. @Vincent

    Isn’t your ask somewhat redundant? Any government policy can be amended by a simple majority in parliament.


  24. @TB

    So true, Hurricane Matthew just made mincemeat of the urban corridor on Grand Bahama and Andros islands in the Bahamas.


  25. David

    This was discussed 20 odd years ago and it would be for a finite time as things change,so after every 30 or 50 years it would be revisited.The 3/4 parliamentary support proposal for ag lands was a good idea.


  26. In 2011/12, it was reported that the bulk of the world’s coral reefs would be depleted or near depletion within 2 to 3 decades based on current ecosystems modelling given the effects of climate change, urbanization and the repercussions of man’s damnable management of our oceans & its life-forms – yet our so-called elected #LiarPoliticians have kicked the can so far down the road – placing all future problems on the shoulders of our children & grandchildren…

    SEE: http://cmsdata.iucn.org/downloads/caribbean_coral_report_jbcj_030912.pdf

    So with rising sea-levels because of “GLOBAL WARMING” & GLOBAL COOLING – all happening BACK TO BACK; the tide of public opinion only begins to take on the water of indifference on board when the next HURRICANE* washes away their lives & loved ones…

    In a country such as B’dos, so heavily dependent on tourism, can Gov’t ill afford to play fast & loose with the environmental impact of unbridled urban sprawl in their hyper-reality quest for Baudrillardian contemporaneity & postmodernity…

    Time for Stuart et al to rethink!!!


  27. The old Barbados landscape I came along and found was built one field at a time!!!

    That’s the importance of the Quakers, they and their slaves built it one field at a time.

    If the basic thinking on the importance of a single field had been flawed, there would have been no landscape to enjoy and all would have starved,

    Every time I walk in a field I am conscious of the 300 plus years of work that has been put into it.

    The bits of old clay pipe stems and china are there as evidence.

    A field with a name such as “Never Failing” must deserve respect, but won’t get it if ignorant people or charlatans are dealing with it.

    What I did above was to challenge the line in the National Anthem “…. these fields and hills beyond recall”

    Perhaps the hills are beyond recall but the fields are not!!

    Every field has a name because it is not, beyond recall!!!

    Check the March 1953 issue of National Geographic to understand what I am speaking about!!

    … and if you are really interested, read a book called “Why do cows have names?”, available at Amazon on kindle.


  28. “Why do cows need names”


  29. @ David

    While GOV narrowly focuses on what the BLOGMASTER opines as “PLANTING HOUSES” – precious few strategies are being put in place to “LIFT” the 20% (20 out 100) who live below the “POVERTY LINE” (these number were cited in a Caribank Study done under the aegis of the University of West Indies Cave Hill)…

    SEE: http://www.caribank.org/uploads/2012/12/Barbados-CALC-Volume-1-MainReport-FINAL-Dec-2012.pdf

    So while the “COST OF LIVING” is going up – the “CHANCES OF LIVING” are going down…

    A refrain echoes across the Caribbean, where families bemoan the cost of living as being way too high, especially for food and other basic necessities – yet we create real estate opportunities & social policy to accommodate the urban sprawl speculators almost as if we can continue to “IMPORT” ourselves into a form secular UTOPIA where the needs of all are met….

    It is FANTASY economics!!!


  30. @TB

    It will get worse given the urgency to reduce government expenditure because the strategy of increasing the level of taxation by this government is not working. In this scenario the most vulnerable will take a hit.


  31. re So while the โ€œCOST OF LIVINGโ€ is going up โ€“ the โ€œCHANCES OF LIVINGโ€ are going downโ€ฆ
    Good! FERTILE GROUND FOR THE ANTICHRIST.
    ALL COMING TO PAST AS PROPHESIED ah lie

    re A refrain echoes across the Caribbean, where families bemoan the cost of living as being way too high, especially for food and other basic necessities โ€“ yet we create real estate opportunities & social policy to accommodate the urban sprawl speculators almost as if we can continue to โ€œIMPORTโ€ ourselves into a form secular UTOPIA where the needs of all are metโ€ฆ.

    It is FANTASY economics!!!

    SO WHAT CAN YOU DO TO FIX IT BESIDE TALK JACKASS?
    HOW DOES BRAYING ON BU HELP?

  32. Frustrated Businessman aka 'Nation of Laws' my ass. Avatar
    Frustrated Businessman aka ‘Nation of Laws’ my ass.

    Simple facts:

    If there was any money to be made in agriculture, farmers wouldn’t sell their land, same as any other business.

    There is no money to be made in agriculture growing vegetables and root crops because sugar cane is the only rotation crop that works in Barbados in conjunction with food crops. Unless there is a limitless supply of irrigation water to mitigate the need for crop rotation, no cane means no food crops.

    If sugar was subsidised at the cost of growing it, farmers would make money on everything else. That subsidy would cost Bajan taxpayers about the same as CBC’s annual subvention.

    If the gov’t didn’t have a monopoly on the processing, export and sale of sugar, the theoretical subsidies could be used to good effect to explore new uses, packaging and markets. Bear in mind we do not currently produce enough sugar for even the Bajan market but all that we produce is exported anyway at 1/10 the retail price. Think about that logic.

    So, before you criticise someone for selling their land sitting idle, think about what you would do if you had no income, land tax to pay every year and the bank beating down your door for loan payments. Then direct your energies towards the true villains, the politicians who have, for five decades, demonised Bajan agriculture and all who have suffered to create and sustain it.


  33. I don’t think farmers are to blame for selling out!!!

    If money is the only reason for agriculture then of course it is dead.

    But that is the difference between riches and wealth …. death and life!!

    Sugar was never profitable in Barbados as can be seen by the numbers of plantations which went into chancery!!

    Perhaps there was a short period when Haiti destroyed its own economy and sugar prices tripled when profits were made.

    Ridge itself has been in Chancery atleast three times in the past.

    Chancery means simply that Ridge made a loss!!!!

    ” ….. no income, land tax to pay every year and the bank beating down your door for loan payments”

    So why and how on earth did it survive for more than 300 years and make people think a load of money was being made?

    Most simple minded Bajans believe this to be the case!!

    Riches and wealth are often confused!!!

    Not saying money is not important but it is better to have it invested in something that will create wealth over the long term than as paper in your hand!!

    Every field in Barbados has 300 plus years of money invested in it!!!

    Sooner or later the paper will become worthless but properly husbanded the land will remain valuable and a source of wealth.

    That’s why there is an easily definable landscape!!!

    Wealth may be as simple as the ability to feed yourself or keep yourself occupied fruitfully!!

    If it is self evident that non sugar agriculture can’t work without water then what’s so hard about imagining construction of houses won’t work without water either.

    You don’t need to be an exceptionally bright person to go from one position to the next and we have everybody supposedly highly educated in Barbados!!

    If you don’t know what to do with land, don’t destroy it, somebody will appear in the future who does know what to do with the land even if you don’t!!

    If I remember I will tell you a story about the Oistine family to show how completely disconnected we have become from our land.

    Here is Ridge’s history of ownership with its ups and downs going back almost 350 years!!

    …. and by the way, Benjamin Todd Jones whose name you will find below as owning Lower Greys/Grays was a Quaker as was the early Jones family.

    He is buried (1792) in the vault marked J in the Quaker burying ground next door to St. Philip’s church!!

    Ridge, Christ Church
    1674 Oistine(?)
    1680 James Oistine, 67, Nicholas Oistine 4 โ€“ Brandow 244 โ€“ Thomas Ford (father of Francis) of the Ridge
    [Francis Ford married (1717) Martha Barrow widow of John Hooper]
    1721 Hooper
    1723 32/385 John Hooper, decโ€™d, by his will of 1711 bequeathed his property ot his son Daniel Hooper of Christ Church. Now Daniel Hooper sells to Francis Ford for ยฃ1000 and the responsibility to assume certain debt charges of John Hooper, decโ€™d, 60 ac with mansion house and stone windmill, Christ Church
    Bounders: Elizabeth Pilgrim, decโ€™d (Frere Pilgrim), Richard Rycroft (Rycrofts), John Newton (Newton), Miles James, Dr. Robert Hunter

    1785 Original document in Bโ€™dos Archives
    Marriage Settlement. Francis Ford III marrying Mary Anson. Fordโ€™s pltn called โ€œThe Ridgeโ€, 227 ac, Christ Church

    1791 197/348 Elizabeth Carter, widow, sells to Hon. Francis Ford for ยฃ7000, 64 ac with mill and mansion house, Christ Church
    Bounders: Benjamin Todd Jones (Lower Grays), Boarded Hall, other lands of Francis Ford called the Ridge pltn, 47 slaves

    1825 Sir Francis Ford
    RB1/226/73 8/12/1803
    Ridge (Sir Francis Ford) bounder on Pilgrim (Frere)
    1842โ€“58 Sir Francis Ford (โ€™46 decโ€™d) (297 in โ€™58) 293
    1857 Shilstone xxii 9 () โ€“ Pur.: C.T. Alleyne ยฃ19,300 297
    1857 Shilstone xxxv โ€“ Appr.: C.T. Alleyne ยฃ19,000
    1859 Shilstone xxii 14 (
    ) โ€“ Pur.: John Best ยฃ23,000 297
    1859 Shilstone xxxv โ€“ J.F. Best ยฃ25,000
    1859โ€“63 C.T. Alleyne 297
    1859 Absentee
    1865โ€“80 James P. Best 297
    1862 Steam mill 12 HP
    1871 Vacuum Pan
    1863 May 22 BMHS xxx 97 โ€“ New Steam works producing excellent sugar
    1873โ€“4 Chancery Court Alleyne et al v Best
    1887 A.J. Best 297
    1887โ€“89 Chancery Court Alleyne v Best
    1892โ€“98 F.M. Alleyne (Forster McGeachy) 297
    1901โ€“07 C.T. Alleyne, decโ€™d 297
    1910 Chancery Court McLaren et al v Robinson
    1909 8 Jan Pur.: E.A. Robinson ยฃ7320 297
    (app: ยฃ4396 โ€“ W.I.C.C. 270/64 โ€“ 264ยฝ arable)
    1912 W.I.C.C. 209 โ€“ see Hannays โ€“ both sold E.A. Robinson to W. Harold Wright ยฃ23,000

    1913โ€“14 W.T. Mahon 297
    1918 W.I. Com. Circ 6/3/19 ยฃ47,600 500
    1918 WITH RYCROFTS โ€“ 1 Mar โ€“ Pur.: Searles Factory ยฃ47,500 523
    1929โ€“37 WITH RYCROFTS โ€“ Ridge Ltd 500
    1951 & 57/8 Ridge Ltd
    1970 Ridge Ltd 734
    BMHS xxxii 191 โ€“ William Trotman (c. 1710 โ€“ 1756) of Ridge


  34. Agriculture is not the same as any other business!!

  35. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Frustrated Businessman aka ‘Nation of Laws’ my ass. October 27, 2016 at 3:44 PM
    โ€œThere is no money to be made in agriculture growing vegetables and root crops because sugar cane is the only rotation crop that works in Barbados in conjunction with food crops. Unless there is a limitless supply of irrigation water to mitigate the need for crop rotation, no cane means no food crops.โ€

    Well put!

    It is precisely because of this symbiotic relationship between the sugarcane plant and other food crops that Barbados has been able to achieve the level of economic development to sustain such a large population given its geographic size, climatic conditions and its poor endowment with other natural resources.

    One thing you have omitted from the sugarcane nexus is that no cane also means no molasses which means no rum bottled in Barbados should continue to have the โ€˜trademarkโ€™ right be labeled and marketed as Barbados Rum.
    But what the heck, arenโ€™t there โ€œSouvenirs of Barbadosโ€ made 100% in China?

    But one thing we can be sure about is that โ€œNecessity is the Mother of Inventionโ€. When the forex dries up in the coming months because few would be willing to invest in or lend Barbados money under the current administration Bajans would have to look to the land if they are to eat to survive.

    There would soon be a trade-off between imported processed food on the one hand and fuel, medicine and car parts on the other.


  36. @Frustrated

    You have not introduced the economic dimension to the debate. If we take your position to a logical conclusion than most agricultural land will be reclassified at some point to commercial or residential. Where do we go from here?


  37. John October 27, 2016 at 12:03 PM #
    John , have your forgotten that big water main that was laid ,through Edey Village and north of Coral Ridge, up to St Phillip about a year ago, by C.O Williams ?


  38. RE Where do we go from here?

    WE GOING DOWN YA BLASTED FOOL! ARE YOU BLIND AND DUMB TOO!


  39. MISTAKES HAVE BEEN MADE AND THEY MUST BE PAID FOR


  40. There will be a revival of agriculture in Barbados, in the same vane as St Kitts when that country abandoned its sugar industry. The Taiwanese came in , lease some of the land, grow produce , and ship it all back to Taiwan. In our case it will be our new ‘benevolent’ Chinese friends. Meantime the boys on the block outside of Basseterre are doing a bit of agriculture themselves, cultivating a Rum Bottle Tree.

  41. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Colonel Buggy October 27, 2016 at 5:02 PM
    “The Taiwanese came in , lease some of the land, grow produce , and ship it all back to Taiwan.”

    It would be interesting to find out who are the workers on those leased lands? Are they the same “black” hands that once toiled on the same lands or are they imported from SE Asia?

  42. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ John October 27, 2016 at 4:41 PM
    โ€œAgriculture is not the same as any other business!!โ€

    When it comes to matters of the land and the water resources in Barbados you must accept the title of the Ace of the BU cognoscenti.

    So, Sir John, do you know if there is any relationship between the growing of the sugarcane plant and the amount of rainfall which feeds the countryโ€™s aquifers?

    Is the โ€˜growingโ€™ absence of the sugarcane plant from the landscape along with the digging up of trees to plant concrete ovens contributing in anyway to the stifling heat which many people are complaining about?


  43. The Physical Development Plan (PDP) 2003 Amended Section 3.13.1 a says that โ€œ Under exceptional circumstances, non-agricultural development may be considered on agricultural land (SUBECT TO AN EIA AND AMENDMENT TO THE PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDED 2003 IN INSTANCES WHERE THE LAND IS GREATER THAN 10 HECTARES/24.7 acres) but only if the proposal provides significant economic, social and environmental benefitsโ€ฆโ€ฆ..โ€


  44. millertheanunnaki October 27, 2016 at 5:39 PM #
    Perhaps we should take a trip back to especially eastern St Phillip circa 1950’s & 1960’s , when parts of St Phillip resembled the wide expanse of Salisbury Plains. Houses were few and far between. The area was virtually treeless, and did not support the growing of sugar canes. At one time the Regiment had its shooting range at Fortesque, a then very remote and deserted location . Many plantations is St Thomas and St Joseph and elsewhere , owned large acreages of lands in St Philip which were used to grow Sour Grass, to feed the massive Kentucky Mules kept on those plantations. St Philip did not, and even up to now, experience the kind of rainfall, seen in other areas of the island . Some used to joke that eastern St Philip was only good for producing Okras and nuts. (The latter is still true).


  45. Colonel Buggy October 27, 2016 at 4:45 PM #
    John October 27, 2016 at 12:03 PM #
    John , have your forgotten that big water main that was laid ,through Edey Village and north of Coral Ridge, up to St Phillip about a year ago, by C.O Williams ?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    No I haven’t!!!

    It is supplied by the Belle/Newmarket perhaps Codrington, the same wells that are maxed out already.

    It is possible the new main may reduce the leaks but given the same quantity of water available at source, somebody will come up short.

    Why not try and solve the St. Joseph problem before creating another one!!!!!


  46. In our early days we used to sing some nonsensical nursery rhymes . Mary had a little lamb. The cow jumped over the moon, and Ba Ba Black sheep.
    In 40 something days we all will be singing our hearts out to yet another of these nursery rhymes

    We loyal sons and daughters all
    Do hereby make it known
    These fields and hills beyond recall
    Are now our very own
    We write our names on history’s page
    With expectations great
    Strict guardians of our heritage
    Firm craftsmen of our fate

    Celebrating 50 years of independence. I tell ya!


  47. Georgie Porgie October 27, 2016 at 4:56 PM #
    RE Where do we go from here?
    WE GOING DOWN YA BLASTED FOOL! ARE YOU BLIND AND DUMB TOO!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I would not have been so blunt but sometimes I wonder.

    If it is accepted there is no water for irrigation and by inference no water for houses, I have to admit it is difficult to practice restraint!!!!

    … and just to show we have been there and done that already here is an example.

    The result was the defeat of France by Germany in the second world war!!

    Churchill: Ou est la masse de manoeuvre?

    Gamelin: Aucune

    https://books.google.com/books?id=ZM71HK2ysoAC&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=ou+est+la+masse+de+manoeuvre&source=bl&ots=KUUQ0napPv&sig=GysamIqTatbfJaJnMhSF6mb02aA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjU4sehg_zPAhWGcj4KHSy2AcgQ6AEINDAD#v=onepage&q=ou%20est%20la%20masse%20de%20manoeuvre&f=false


  48. “The only source of fresh water in Bermuda is rainfall, which is collected on roofs and catchments (or drawn from underground lenses) and stored in tanks. Each dwelling usually has at least one of these tanks forming part of its foundation. The law requires that each household collect rainwater that is piped down from the roof of each house.”


  49. why would anyone expect this Govt to act any different from the last one? In 2008 the Physical development plan was changed for the specific reason to allow Clico to develope the land they owned around Graeme Hall after an earlier Physical Development plan stated that there would be no further commercial or Industrial development in the Graeme hall area

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