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Submitted by William Skinner

We seem to be lurching from one issue or crisis to another. Whether it is garbage pilling up all over de place or teachers being assaulted by students, our beloved island state now seem rudderless and heading straight for the rocks. When we add an ill conceived, basically stupid, so called no confidence motion, apparently designed to get the Prime Minister to talk; a picture of utter confusion seems to have permanently infected the body politic.

The only person who seems to have a fairly level head these days is Mr. Grenville Phillips, whose recent appearance on the rapidly deteriorating brass tacks program was intelligent and enlightening. It was a departure from almost five years of one particular moderator, who has taken it upon himself to be the main antagonist of the Prime Minister. Repetitive and one-sided contributions, designed to futilely prove that there is some real difference of what we have, the DLP, and what we gine get, the BLP, unless apparently a miracle intervenes.

Mr. Phillips has undertaken the bold task of convincing the public that Mr. Owen Arthur is as much to blame as anybody else for the economic slide that is now taking us into financial ruin and possibly oblivion. Any Minister of Finance, who left the country with perhaps all the problems he had inherited, should not be elevated to God like status. Arthur has been given a lot of credit where none was due. There are shop keepers and those who only keep shop. The only real difference between Sinckler and Arthur might be the fact that Arthur can claim he is an economist by training. They are selling the same bread in different bread carts, the result will be the same. Drowning men will clutch at a straw; Mr. Arthur is the straw of choice at this moment.

The simple truth is that as we approach fifty years of nationhood, our country finds its infrastructure in danger of becoming shambled. These two parties should be praised for what they have done and we should not be afraid to remind them that things they should have done they left undone and things they should not have done they brazenly did. Two glaring examples should suffice: Who will invest over one hundred million in a cricket stadium to see the West Indies get beat and leave old mains in the ground leaking water? That will be our friends at Roebuck street. Who will invest nearly fifty million in an office building and leave old water mains in the ground? That will be our friends at George Street. Same difference.

So in steps Mr. Phillips with his Solutions for Barbados and like all third parties, he finds himself often coming up for oxygen. Very hard to hold ones breath because of the polluted waters that are the trade mark of the BLP and DLP. Only problem is that he honestly believes that only those who have successfully managed business for a period of time and have employed a certain number of people, should get the opportunity to run the country. He may be shocked to know that over the last fifty years or so we have had quite a number of such persons in parliament and look wuh happen.

My advice to Mr. Phillips is to exclude lawyers and economists and try everybody else, except Sinckler!


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168 responses to “Who Will Save Barbados?”


  1. Note oil producers are beginning to work together to force oil prices back up. A word to the government should be sufficient.

    Oil producers meet in Qatar to discuss cap, Iran absent


  2. The only people who can save barbados from social and economic derailment is the people themselves, politicians having intentions good or otherwise are beholden to laws and agreements which for the most part not necessarily assigned to be at the heart of a countries best interest, Take the IMF they proposal is to be one of helping debited nations but is that true ?
    If so then how it is their first methods of choice be those of harsh measures imposed on society out of an interest working on behalf of financial institutions
    If Barbadians have their country best interest at heart their must be a collective and unified voice borne out of a discipline that the counties interest would supersede self interest intensified with a purpose to use their education wisely in ways other great nations have done to build and maintain their country

  3. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David that coda to that headline is the proverbial devil in the details. If I make be sacrilegious and extend the good-evil dynamic and pose that coda as ‘ What would Iran do’ as a rephrase of the once popular refrain ‘WWJD’ , to capture the key problem with this meeting to ‘artificially’ hike oil prices.

    I started to really pay attention to world news during the 70s OPEC show of power. This is a COMPLETELY different world today. No maguffy actions will carry the day as then.

    There is still an over supply of oil in the market and although key suppliers in the mid-East and folks like Venezuela – in particular – want higher prices there are now too many variables at play for OPEC and related partners to arbitrarily influence oil prices as before,

    So yes there has been recent upticks in oil prices but most analysts do not forsee anything resembling the $70 to $100/barrel prices of just a few years ago. Thus in that regard the Bajan leaders can continue their ridiculous behaviour…well of course not..but input costs based on higher oil prices will be gradual and not as high as previously,

    A deep discussion for another day.


  4. A forum for returning Nationals from Canada, UK and USA is urgently! Chaired by anyone of the two above or both..! We’ve a wealth of experiences that remains untapped in this country! Come on BIM what are you afraid of, been shown up..!?


  5. @Dee Word

    The oil producers at this meeting represent 73% of world production. Any decision made WILL have an impact on the price point of oil. You must never forget the speculators and the role they play. The bigger point is that the challenge of Barbados’ international reserves of foreign currency is being masked by low oil prices. If we subtract 300 to 400 million in savings as a result of the current state then you see we have a problem. Tourism is not giving the country the incremental forex earnings based on spend.


  6. With due respect I beg to disagree with a part of Mr Skinner’s opinion. Intelligent and enlightening indeed where it related to where the Owen Arthur train had taken us after the smoke cleared and a few mirrors were broken. How did we get back here? That was Sir LLoyd’s question. Though few might admit it, I truly believe that most know. That said however I thought that his appearance brought into sharp focus the fact that these solutions by themselves will not work. You can fine someone twenty times ten the value of their misdeed. They do not pay so after that what? What is the solution where the Civil Service is concerned? Do you reduce its size, or do you just repeal their obligation to pay taxes? Then the most outstanding one is this. It is the very business people that reaped the benefits of the programs that brought Sir Lloyd to ask the question “How did we get back here?”


  7. @Dee Word

    Here is an article that supports your position. The world economy is a mess. How can SIDS plan with some certainty? This makes it important for the political place to develop a relevant vision and to execute efficiently.

    http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/apr/17/central-bank-global-economy-helicopter-money?CMP=twt_gu


  8. @ shaft agree with your suggestion except that Barbadians has build a world of suspicion about returning nationals which only serves as defeatism and a self fulfilling prophecy to their own detriment
    Imagine all the combined knowledge of every returning national from lowest to the highest armed with the gifts of experience and education brought to these shores from other great lands and be utilized since independence. What Barbadians would have already achieved is enormous wealth in knowledge and industry and pride for this tiny island ,,No! but we have the elitist who still live in a fear exacting a deliberate message that the people of this island is not deserving to be owners of great wealth and the sad part being that many Barbadians can not connect the dots
    But rather isolate and deny their returning brothers and sister a rightful place at the table of opportunity in creating meaningful ways of helping to make barbados stronger
    There must be a distinctive level of soul searching among our people for barbados to become stronger


  9. There is noting new under the Sun.

    Markets | Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:14am EDT

    Related: Israel

    Countries look to draw expatriate cash with ‘diaspora bonds’

    LONDON | By Karin Strohecker

    A growing roster of developing states are turning to their compatriots abroad to raise cash by marketing "diaspora bonds", a funding strategy successfully pioneered by India and Israel but sometimes tricky to imitate.

    Some 250 million people, around 3 percent of the world population, live outside their native countries, according to World Bank data from 2013. They are an important source of funding for their homelands: last year they sent home around $440 billion – three times more than global development aid.

    Cash raised by governments directly by marketing securities to their overseas citizens represents just a tiny fraction of that, but looks set to grow, judging by a number of recent announcements.

    Egypt has announced debt certificates denominated in dollars and euros to ease hard currency shortages.

    Kosovo, which estimates a third of people of Kosovan descent live abroad, proposed issuing bonds for expatriates last month. Sri Lanka discussed such bonds last year, and Nigeria has tried to revive plans for a diaspora issue after naming Goldman Sachs and Stanbic as advisors on a proposal in 2014.

    But not all such efforts succeed. Many countries overestimate the generosity of their natives abroad. One high-profile example was Greece, which proved unable to raise a hoped-for $3 billion from the million-strong Greek community in the United States at the height of its debt crisis in 2011.

     

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-emerging-bonds-diaspora-idUSKCN0XE0ID?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter


  10. David you are being rude with your response to the article while supported by the dribbler who never seems to get enough of hearing himself repeat the same coded statements over and over again
    With all due respect to the author who took time to pen this article with an obvious intent to look for solution to barbados problem should be of more importance than your rushed to divert readers attention to the oil barrons of this world whose problems Barbados cannot correct and whether govt like it or not whatever decisions made by the oil cartel barbadians would have to live with until if or when the time comes Barbados can produce significant barrels of oil
    Which in itself is a long shot

  11. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Mr Blogmaster you have quite a few of your bots out there doing some good info gathering…that Guardian article was solid.

    One highlight to reinforce the discussion or as you said “supports [my] position:

    “The upward trend in oil prices also looks BRITTLE (my emphasis). The fundamentals of the market – supply continues to exceed demand – have not changed and the Doha deal which appears to have been brokered between Saudi Arabia and Russia to limit production has been overhyped, because it excludes Iran.”

    So I agree that the oil ministers meeting are of those with greatest control but apart from the Iran bogey man who they cannot control we must also remember that the US is now a NET producer of oil.

    That too is a significant factor.


  12. @Dee Word

    Of course you anticipated this line of argument would land somewhere?

    Given your world view (and we accept a few here on the blog have the very limited capacity to navel gaze) how do you forecast the impact the imminent sale of the Barbados National Terminal Company Limited will have on the local market? Note that OSA’s policy approach was to subsidize oil to maintain some level of affordability and predictability in the market read dull the volatility factor. How does the DLP’s policy contrast. Has it had the desired impact on consumption behaviour?

    Sold off


  13. William is exactly correct.
    The only difference between Arthur and Stinkliar is that while Owen had the ability to use ‘economic jargon’ to confuse us while he was doing shiite, Stinkliar just resorts to the basic tactic of telling NUFF LIES while doing HIS shiite.

    It is one thing to have champagne taste and aspirations – especially where a people have only recently emerged out of centuries of serfdom, but it is DOUBLY irresponsible to then fall directly into the OBVIOUS debt trap lured by those waving ‘easy loans’, promised to get us punching above our weight…

    BETTER to be a man who OWNS your own shack, than a champagne drinker who is OWNED by the children of same damn albinos that owned our fore-parents.

    When David Thompson and company were elected, the expectation was that they would bring some reality to the situation and focus on the ENFRANCHISEMENT of ordinary Bajans.
    Instead, they joined the greedy, selfish, self-centered, bribe-taking BLP crooks and have now gone on to outdo them…

    Who will save Barbados?
    LOL
    That question is being asked now that the Titanic is practically submerged….
    Don’t try and look for a life-boat…….!!


  14. Oil initself cannot save a couuntry from economic doom even the oil barrons felt the sting and smell the stench of impacting disaster when demand for supply globally dropped
    The policy of subsidizing BNOC was another one of OSA fiscal disasters which almost brought the company to financial ruins


  15. @ David
    Your are right to be pessimistic about the future of oil…
    Just like it has been used specifically to cripple Russia via ridiculously low prices, it can (and likely WILL) be used in future as a tool of war -perhaps via high prices or even blockades….

    Any WISE small state would use this clearly FALSE situation of low prices to get themselves OFF the oil train as much as possible…. but brass bowls are not known to be wise….


  16. @Bush Tea

    To add to your point, note how the wind has gone out of the sails of the renewable energy thrust. A word to the wise should be sufficient.

  17. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Mr Blogmaster , your 8:52 is a ‘research paper’ as I have not reviewed the BNTCL deal beyond what I read here on BU. My comments would be general only…a real high level world view.

    I look forward to Artax in particular and Pieces, Vincent and others providing the detailed background with their deep local review .

    And re “a few here on the blog have the very limited capacity to navel gaze”, I almost choked from AC’s remark “…the dribbler who never seems to get enough of hearing himself repeat the same coded statements over and over again”. REPEAT…CODED STATEMENT…OVER AND OVER…..The sycophant and shill who spins everything to a DLP slant over and over did NOT accuse me of repetition of coded remarks….No. That would be the devil taking the hindmost of hypocrisy….AC could never be called a hypocrite!

    Anyhow, for Sunday commentary.

    If BNTCL is sold to Kyffin Simpson as I would expect then all good. If to an outside entity – unless there is significant local ownership – then not so good.

    Overall I do not see any significant impact on the local market as it relates to any subsidies which offset volatility because the government would have to build into the sale requirements to facilitate some degree of ‘control’ of the long term process. Of course they still have their fiscal policy tools to ‘control’ fuel prices regardless of any stipulation they may or may not implement into the sale agreement.

    Realistically at this point re DLP’s policy they are simply seeking ForEx to buttress the ‘Balance Sheet’. Selling the only oil facility is really neither here or there as there is no massive economic industrial complex which evolves from or is dependent on it. And from a strict business perspective it makes better synergy to sell into a larger corporation from which the owners can wring better efficiency.

    Now Mr. Blogmaster you have essentially demanded that I do some research (for my edification) of the BNTCL corp and its impact on BIM over the years. Never really studied any details for that lonely company with the small complex and facilities.

    So I turn over to the local big hitters to properly answer the moot!

  18. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    The renewable energy thrust is still alive and well, David. Some revelations by this weekend.


  19. @Jeff

    Look forward to it. Many middle and upper class families and businesses bought into the RE movement and of recent have been left high and dry with the precipitous fall in global oil prices.

  20. Violet C Beckles Avatar
    Violet C Beckles

    Skinner @ none of the above can save Barbados, only Beatrice Henry and Violet Beckles truth can save Barbados, Lies , PONZI and Land fraud is the MAIN problem,

    Coalition of Unified Parties “C.U.P “have and will always deal with the Truth of all matters, Nothing can be fixed with lies and that is what Barbados is dealing with,

    International Bankers knows the truth, its time for the People to wake up and remove the DBLP Government, All the persons know or should know who did what.

    They can not fool the rest of the World only the Barbados public that lives off the limited information spit out by the crooks in power.All government agent departments from Inland Rev to water company dealing in lies and cover up.

    Bajans will not wake up to truth until London Bridge all fall down and be rebuilt on stone and not mud.

    Who will save Barbados ? The Truth that Beatrice and Violet gave to Alex to help the People of Barbados and not crook lawyers and Ministers Acting like they own some thing.No Clear title no Investments.

  21. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    AC…did you not read Grenville hinting that the harsh measures IMF institute in their restructuring programs are to punish the citizens for choosing idiots as leaders, hint, hint….lol


  22. @Bushie ‘Any WISE small state would use this clearly FALSE situation of low prices to get themselves OFF the oil train as much as possible…. but brass bowls are not known to be wise’

    Exactly, a temporary respite is all. But as you say ‘brassbowls’.

  23. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David that is an interesting remark re “To add to your point, note how the wind has gone out of the sails of the renewable energy thrust. A word to the wise should be sufficient.”

    That has always been the problem with cheap oil: that the burden on alternatives became significantly harder to implement.

    I am not familiar with the thrust of which you and Jeff speak but on the world view side of things Tesla recently launched their every-man electric car (model 3) valued under the US$40K mark…this of course coming after the other high end expensive ($70k – $100K) models that got rather excellent reviews.

    That particular vehicle has gotten a lot of the press so we have heard that it can provide up to 220+ miles before recharge. That easily gets you around the island or in the US from DC to Labor Day celebrations on the Parkway in NY in one fell swoop!

    So despite the low cost of fuel it seems that the mind set that we need to conserve the planet is taking hold thus folks are still keen on their alternatives….it was reported that 276,000 people placed orders for the Tesla model 3 within the first few weeks of the launch.

    That is the Barbados population….how relevant would oil price become to us if Tesla (the inexpensive ones) or Toyota electric vehicles made up 50% or more of our cars!

    Times are a changing…and we gots to change wid dem!


  24. @Dee Word

    A wonderfully constructed comment. This is the kind of commentary the BU household yearns to read on the BU pages on a more consistent basis from one and all.


  25. @ Jeff
    It will be interesting to hear the revelations on RE coming soon, but by now you must have deduced that the initial idiocy of tagging the value of RE to the cost of fuel was short-sighted, greedy (seeking to keep consumers paying high prices) and ill-conceived.

    The value of RE should be based on the cost of inputs and a reasonable RoI.
    BL&P missed the boat in the early days when they delayed the process by their stupid arguments that they were waiting until the cost of the new technology was less than their existing investments in oil.
    After others took the initiative to show that they were talking shiite, they now are seeking to use their leverage to displace the local pioneers…..

    You will not allow that …will you..?


  26. @Bush Tea

    You are aware BL&P/EMERA competes with local RE installers? How on earth are households punished in the price point by their own investment to generate so called intermittent energy fed to the grid?


  27. Minister of Sports and Culture streaming on Voice of BarbadosLashley Meets the Press!


  28. I am not an apologist for Owen Arthur, who is more than capable of defending his economic policies 1994-2007. If maintaining unemployment 6%, managing the foreign reserves to maintain the peg to the U$ and growing the economy are the objective measure of his administration, he DID NOT FAIL. The Monday morning quarterbacking is truly tiresome. Deal with the situation which is in front of you and don’t wish for retroactive ability to make other and hopefully better choices decades later because of current challenges. That is not how life work. Man up. Grenville Phillips’ comments are not rooted in the economic reality of Barbados circa 1994. Fairy tale.


  29. @ David
    This place is something else…
    EMERA is currently essentially getting almost free energy generated by RE suppliers which they then sell back to customers -INCLUDING the same people who gave them the energy- at the high prices granted by the FTC.

    LOL
    it is like robbing a plantation of its potatoes and then selling them back the pudding and souse that you made with the stolen potatoes…

    Lil Hitler on VOB?
    shiite man… Bushie going and listen. Perhaps he will explain how, during his term as Minister, All sports infrastructure has disintegrated; the Youth Service seems to have gone into abeyance; The Cultural industry has been taxed into submission; and the concept of ‘family’ is a thing of the past..

    Perhaps he will explain what the hell he has been doing these past eight years besides giving the same lame speeches about ‘building a new Stadium; rebuilding the Empire Cinema; and coming up with papers on youth, cultural industries and other such shiite….

    He gotta real gall to come on brass tacks bozie…


  30. @Bushie

    Can you call David Ellis and say to him that Stephen Lashley is a liar as it relates to his ministry’s relationship with Powerx4 and Chetwyn. Also tell him to ask the minister about the sweet heart arrangement with Dorsey Boyce and the NCF. He needs to invite BU to the panel (by phone) just that his station will e UNABLE to carry a serious interview because of an overzealous producer.


  31. @BMcDonald
    Steupsss
    Don’t get Bushie started on that OSA shiite again…. he ‘DID NOT FAIL’ in the eyes of brass bowls… but this is BU skippa…. we deal with FACTS.

    When a fellow jumps off the roof of a building he may feel exhilarated at first with the free feeling, the fresh air… the open sky…
    ..a jackass may even surmise when he passes the top floors that he seem to be flying high – well above his weight class
    But now that the fall is approaching the ground floor, you come here saying that the problem is not related to the initial jump…?
    …What the hell could two incompetents like Froon and Stinkliar do ..by the time they took control after passing 4 floors down..? Shiite man…It would have taken a couple bushmen to concoct some wings and a good parachute …in order to slow things down for a survivable landing…

    Granville is EXACTLY correct in this particular analysis of Owen’s tenure… although he is talking shiite with respect to electing greed-maniac businessmen as the new political class… 🙂


  32. de pedantic Dribbler April 17, 2016 at 10:26 AM #

    Chuckle…..are you aware of the taxes presently imposed on green vehicles of which Tesla would be one by this govt…..are you further aware that it is not politic to go green in Bim at this time.


  33. From Wikileaks.

    (SBU) Post has received an interim reply from the Royal
    Barbados Police Force (RBPF), responding to the Embassy’s
    February 8, 2007, request for information concerning the
    application by Sports Imports to import ten (10) Remington
    700 rifles.

    (SBU) BEGIN TEXT:

    June 12, 2007

    Mr. Christopher Reynolds
    Second Secretary
    US Embassy
    Bridgetown

    Dear Sir

    Importation of Firearms

    I refer to your letter of February 8, 2007 concerning an
    application by Sports Imports to import ten (10) Remington
    700 7.62×51 (1.308) calibre rifles.

    The Royal Barbados Police Force is currently investigating
    this matter. Preliminary finding indicate that permission
    was granted by a letter signed by Inspector Harewood for the
    importation of the mentioned firearms.

    However, the nature of further correspondence to Inspector
    Harewood from Sports Imports necessitated further inquiry.
    The circumstances are being examined in the ongoing
    investigation.

    Meanwhile, there is no valid import license for the
    importation of these firearms.

    The investigation is at an advanced stage and is being
    conducted in accordance with the provisions of our Firearms
    Act.

    You would be informed in due course of our findings.

    Yours faithfully

    Darwin Dottin
    Commissioner of Police

    (signed)

    END TEXT

    Background

    (SBU) When PolOff called Inspector Harewood initially, he
    confirmed the letter he signed and stated that Sports Imports
    had permission to import the 10 rifles. At the request of
    PM/DDTC, PolOff followed up with Harewood, who works in the
    Commissioner Dottin’s office and is the one person at the
    RBPF that can issue import licenses, to obtain enduser
    information for the weapons. PolOff also called the
    procurement officers at both the RBPF and the Royal Barbados
    Defence Force, both of whom stated that they were not
    importing these weapons. When PolOff called Harewood again
    to ask for enduser information, he referred PolOff to the
    Commissioner himself. Commissioner Dottin asked that the
    Embassy put its request for clarification of the discrepancy
    in writing, which the Embassy did with its February 8 letter.
    (SBU) COMMENT: It is encouraging that Dottin is taking
    this matter seriously. It would appear that Inspector
    Harewood did indeed grant permission for the rifles to be
    imported into Barbados without obtaining all the enduser
    information he should have gathered.

    GILROY

    https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/07BRIDGETOWN785_a.html


  34. Post was able to conduct a site visit to SportsImports in
    Barbados. Post can confirm the order for tactical weapons
    systems under license 05-050018615. Post did not uncover any
    derogatory information on the foreign consignee, Greg Cozier
    of SportsImports, and he appears to be a legitimate firearm
    retailer.
    The ultimate end user for the firearms under license
    05-050018615 will be the Barbados Defence Force (BDF). These
    firearms will not be exported out of Barbados, but rather
    transported immediately from the airport to the BDF
    Headquarters by SportsImports. Should they not be
    immediately transported to the BDF, SportsImports will store
    the firearms in a secure facility consisting of two
    double-skinned Chubb vaults made of steel-reinforced concrete
    and alarms that are linked to the police, private security
    and SportsImports personal cell phones. An onsite visit
    confirmed the secure storage facility. SportsImports is also
    familiar with the restrictions governing the importation of
    U.S. Munitions List (USML) commodities, in particular the
    prohibition of unauthorized retransfer or re-export.
    SportsImports keeps detailed records of all firearms
    issued, which include date of issue, caliber, serial number,
    type, model, and name and address of the customer. The
    police also keep a record of all issued firearms. In
    addition, the Commissioner of Police approved SportsImports
    as a licensed firearm dealer to import and sell firearms in
    Barbados. Post is in possession of copies of SportsImports
    application and license documentation for the purchase and
    importation of the firearms in question.

    GILROY


  35. Bush shite why are you picking on OSA when you were one of the many barbadians who feasted on the fatted cow with low taxes and having money in the pockets ,Your are such a blasted two face hypocrite ,How come you never cuss OSA when the tax rate was low and accommodating your greedy nature,Never heard you complain about not paying your fair share to build a better barbados ,In fairness to OSA he built the kind of economy on borrowing because greedy natured people like yourself did not give a rats a,ss to contribute sufficiently and you like it so .
    The sevidence being you and all the thousands of barbadians kept that same system alive for fourteen years adulating Osa to a high status and endorsing his policies of easy money while nothing came out of your pockets .
    Professor brass bowl it was all about benefits to self but not one of you ever thought that the high borrowing would left barbados drowning in the debt. Remember how happy you were when you went to the bank and your money looked better because of high interest
    Remember how OSA took some of BOC shortfall so you could drive that gas guzzler at lower gas prices
    Remember them low land prices
    and now you got nerve to spit on OSA you are not only a hypocrite but a self loathing ungrateful son of a btch negro
    Go hide yuh face do and stop talking shit about OSA ,You of all the people


  36. We will soon see what Stephen Lashley is really all about when it becomes public that both the Empire and the National Stadium is awarded to Marcus Mamoney.


  37. @Mora

    What minister Lashley was careful to say is that his ministry has followed the financial rules.

    On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >


  38. Shaft April 17, 2016 at 7:16 AM #
    A forum for returning Nationals from Canada, UK and USA is urgently! Chaired by anyone of the two above or both..! We’ve a wealth of experiences that remains untapped in this country! Come on BIM what are you afraid of, been shown up..!?
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    Sir , your wealth of experience and know- how is worth bugger all in Barbados. Take it from me, a man who was trained and qualified in,firstly in Barbados, went to the UK , spent a number of years in Europe, came back to Barbados with a further long string of qualifications ,and years of experience ,second to none ,in my field. I was brushed aside, catching my royal arse, until a manager/ engineer, who was himself a returning national, (a term which I hate to use, by the way,) appreciated my worth and created a position for me. One that has yielded success for my company for the three decades that was employed there.
    Being a member of one of the political parties , is more likely to land you a worthwhile position , than being a member of one of the world-wide recognised and respected Engineering or Professional disciplines of the United Kingdom.

  39. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    They like too much political pimping and political yardfowls, that is why everything has gone south, small minded, petty and backward.

    You might land a position but then you become a bitch to some backward lowlife who would torment you just for existing.

  40. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Vincent Haynes April 17 at 11:49 AM #…Actually, no I did not know that there are ” … taxes presently imposed on green vehicles” nor ” that it is not politic to go green in Bim “.

    What is the counter intuitive logic that was presented to impose the ‘green taxes’ and create the impolitic atmosphere. That does not sound practical for a country which was a pioneer with solar technology since I was a lad…… Do clarify.

    @Shaft and @Colonel B: Seems to me you gents are dealing with two different things.

    In latter case the Colonel came back to operate a business. Found himself surprisingly shut out…that is s a real life pain coming into a small comparatively closed market situation.

    In the Shaft case seems to me this is about offering services more at the volunteer level.

    If so I am amused that if you boast of all that experience but then can’t employ any of the myriad strategies to get plugged into the community. This is not a broad side but just a comment!

    If anyone has been off-island for years there are only a few situations that can apply.

    –1 They return with a real big reputation…let’s say like a Ben Carson type first world success; a Skeete of Banking reputation; a Prof Sandiford renown. Then you have nary a problem.

    –2 You were fully involved before you left; keep in contact within your area of expertise and broadly with the community so you prepare yourself to return…again you plug in relatively smoothly

    –3 You left and you were not too plugged in; and you don’t have a big reputation despite excellent skills experience and qualifications. So you need to get plugged in… certainly don’t need to explain how to achieve that …you are the experienced practitioner…put the skills to work.

    Surely you can’t expect to be treated like royalty after having been away for so long…folks were back on the rock being smart too so unless you have some real successful patents or some such prepare to get in to ‘the’ organization and do some leg work in order to impress and move up.

    just saying. This can only be an issue if you make it one!

  41. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Of course putting politics and such to the side…


  42. Surely you can’t expect to be treated like royalty after having been away for so long…folks were back on the rock being smart too so unless you have some real successful patents or some such prepare to get in to ‘the’ organization and do some leg work in order to impress and move up.

    Bro you not serious with that “up in your face ” statement you cannot be real serious. People who have spent plenty years in foreign lands i do not believe wants to be treated like “royalty” but most of them prefer not only to be financial contributors but would gladly give of their time and expertise knowing that what salary they derived would pale far in comparison to what they were getting in other countries.
    these are families of the soil and most stories told by them when they are living aboard is usually the same one of wanting to return home to the land of their birth
    However when the time occasioned most tell the same story of jealous undertones and hush whispers of offence by their own people

  43. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    AC…and your point is what? Many Bajans return home obviously ready to enjoy their golden years and are humble about who and what they are…several are not so filled with humility.

    Regardless, however, “offence by their own people” is a contrived situation…in that if you are back home to live and contribute in whatever way you can then you are going to look past stupid slights and petty jealousies and get on with what you want to do.

    If either side wants to let the issue devolve into folly then it will.

    In the Colonel B example above things worked out. because I imagine he persevered…there are no magic bullets to life.

    We either find a way to make it work or modify our expectations and go in another direction.

    The bottom line for the retired expatriate is that there is always the blue inviting water of the Caribbean Sea for soothing relaxation with no hassle or petty foolishness!

    Absolutely no need for no lotta long talk.


  44. Who will save Barbados?

    Bajans with their hard work and resilience.


  45. @Shaft, Dee Word and Colonel Buggy Your are correct that there is an unexplained hostility towards Barbadians who have lived overseas for a lengthy period. It has manifested itself in the last 10 years when those who emigrated in the 60s started to retire to Barbados, their home. It is a group ripe for the social scientists to explore. Barbadians see this group in the diaspora as a potential money tree yet on the flipside there appears to be some societal tension. No similar tension when welcoming Whites.


  46. Surely you can’t expect to be treated like royalty after having been away for so long…folks were back on the rock being smart too so unless you have some real successful patents or some such prepare to get in to ‘the’ organization and do some leg work in order to impress and move up.
    …………………………………………………………………………………..
    And that is one of the reasons why the Government of Barbados for instance find much difficulty in maintaining a few ambulances, a hand full of buses and sanitation trucks. We are still, in many respects, operating in the 1950’s era. We who came back from London Transport, the British Army and many other entities in the United Kingdom and elsewhere,came back equipped with the most recent training. In one case ,I was not even given a chance,because the person in charge of that particular department saw me as a threat to his hanging on way past his retirement age. And this was the very place which I had served a full apprenticeship with,before I emigrated to the UK, with the highest piece of qualification possible in Barbados at the time. Sad to say,this establishment is now one of those government departments which is racked with inefficiencies and costing the taxpayer daily. A far cry from a similar operation which I managed for 30 years,locally, and was the envy of many similar operations both locally and abroad.


  47. de pedantic Dribbler April 17, 2016 at 2:46 PM #
    In my years back in Barbados I’ve seen so- called consultants and experts coming in from overseas, paid big allowances,accommodated in the best hotels,sometimes with their families and treated like royalty,who did not have any more knowledge of the subject in hand , than some of our junior operatives . Often their reports were a summary of what the local supervisory staff were trying to tell the managers for years.


  48. A picture they say is worth a million words.

    Barbados the same as 1930s – Bishop says

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