Why Cameras Should NOT be Focused on Customs Officers

Attorney General, Adriel Brathwaite

Attorney General, Adriel Brathwaite

The Attorney General Adriel Brathwaite is on public record agreeing to the installation of cameras in areas ‘worked’ by Customs Officers. As the minister responsible for advising the government on legal matters it is noteworthy laws do not currently […]exist to support the use of recordings in our Courts.

This is called politicians blowing hot air through the nether regions.

On the face of the issue commonsense suggest the deployment of  CCTV to monitor the interactions of Customs Officers with the public is the correct approach. However, there is the other view  to support why cameras should not be focussed on Customs Officers when conducting business with the public, especially importers. Here is an extract from the Agreement on Implementation of Article VII of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade 1994 (Article 1 — 24).

Article 10

All information which is by nature confidential or which is provided on a confidential basis for the purposes of customs valuation shall be treated as strictly confidential by the authorities concerned who shall not disclose it without the specific permission of the person or government providing such information, except to the extent that it may be required to be disclosed in the context of judicial proceedings.

The admission just this week by the Attorney General runs counter to the above, a perspective worthy of consideration at a time when subversive elements have taken deep root in our small country.

95 comments

  • Caswell Franklyn

    Thanks David. I wish to reiterate that customs officers were never opposed to the installation of cameras at any port of entry. Their concern was always that the cameras should not be focused on them while their were carrying out their duties. Further they were insisting that the cameras should be under the control of the Customs and Excise Department and not an outside agency as was proposed.

    Barbados has come to expect that this current crop of politicians would speak first and think later. It would seem that the AG does not want to be left out of group.

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  • And i am at lost as to why “a small insignificant union” would be part and parcel of an issue that does not have any thing to do with employees rights, As it now stands the employer Govt) has a right to protect the interest of a country and countrymen and not be bothered by a few nitpicking disgruntled employees who are hell bent on protecting self interest.

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  • If these are the two caveats,there should be no further delay in having the installations done forthwith.

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    Caswell, given the long history of impropriety amongst the Customs officers in Barbados, someone with some sort of common-sense should have suggested long ago that the cameras ought to be installed without the prior knowledge of the Customs officials to weed out the corrupted ones.

    And again Caswell, those cameras ought focus on everyone not excluding Custom officers who have a known history of stealing people’s stuff. And isn’t it a conflict of interest for the Custom officers to police themselves?

    So it therefore, militates against common sense that an agency which has a worldwide reputation for corruption to monitor its own personnel via camera surveillance. Where are the checks and balances Caswell?

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  • Barbados lies very low on the corruption index.What is that JA saying?

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  • What the hell does that article has to do with cameras, being installed for security reasons, Firstly the cameras records actions and whatever information given to customs by those arriving in or out of port would be documentation in the form of verification applicable to ones personal identification which in that case the surveillance cameras would be of no threat, As the article indicates that any disclosures of information / documentation can only be obtained through judicial process,
    One would therefor purpose to believe that the surveillance cameras would be positioned after the persons had finalized verification and strictly focus on to the areas surrounding customs for the retrieving of personal belongings,

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    Why do you insist on adhere to a position which belies the proper judgment and undermines common-sense?

    The installation of those cameras will reestablished in my estimation, the much needed credibility in the department of Customs Caswell.

    And since when can personnel within a governmental agency dictate whether or not the policies and procedures; implemented by the head executive of that agency undermines the rule of law and due-process?

    Listen! The President of the United States of America has no legislative power, but the veto, but he can still implement the policies and procedures within the executive branch of government to direct its affairs.
    So if the president says for example: that he wishes to have camera surveillance in the Secret Service quarts at all time, who can object?

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  • Gabriel
    “Barbados lies very low on the corruption index”

    What is this egocentric-nincompoop endeavouring to convery with his smart Alex comment? Gabriel, are you cognizant of the reputation the Customs department has in my part of the world? Of course not, because you obviously resides under some reclusive bigrock in the far back woods of the countryside of Barbados.

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  • Every single topic…

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  • David

    AC and Donkey have their roles to play which is to deflect criticisms away from the DLP administration. They achieve this by drawing criticisms to themselves and because they are anonymous, they can still walk the street without people realising who they happen to be.

    Generally, I ignore them. Others should do the same. You can sanitise this blog by removing their crap. By now you should realise that they drive people away because they don’t want to read through all their nonsense.

    Sent from my iPad

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  • @Caswell

    They both have a right to pedal their partisan views, and yes it gets boring knowing if Caswell, Bush Tea, Piece. Artax and few others posit a view the two of them will parrot opposition after consulting. What some commenters need to realize is that it is not necessary to comment on every blog. As individuals we don’t know everything and it is valuable to shut the hell up and learn from others sometimes.

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    It sickening me to think that just because others do not agree with your ill-advised position regarding the installation of camera surveillance at the Customs department that you can try to induce the blog-administrator to censor them. Brother perhaps you have forgotten, but this isn’t Hitler’s Germany neither Castro’s Cuba where political agitators are silenced, imprisoned and perhaps murdered because their disagree with the prevailing sentiment of the dictatorial government.

    Listen Caswell, I have been on the BU blog far longer than you have, and as a matter of fact, David mightn’t have realize this, but I have been on BU from its inception, and under pseudonym Lexicon. I have been on Facebook far longer than you have Caswell, and I am perhaps one of the first Barbadians to join Facebook back in the days when things such a security features did not exist.

    And finally Caswell, you have stated in a previous post that you have been a member of the Union since 1980, will I myself have been member of the 1199 Healthcare Union since 1986, and during those years I have served under many competent and incompetent Union presidents. And the counsel that you as a Union leader are giving to the Customs officials leads me to question your competency and whether or not you should step aside and allow a more capable and competent individual to do the job.

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  • listen to Caswell talking about “driving people away” maybe the same analogy can be applied to Unity who can only generate a small following because of the over the top radical views mouthed by its leader Caswell Franklyn.
    Btw Franklyn frankly speaking i do not give a dam what your views are about ac, Criticism has been your Trademark now deal with the pounding that you get when criticisms are hurled at you.
    The fact being that you have taken a very important issue which all knows that is important to the National Interest/security and safety of a Barbados that will serve and preserver the safety of the people and turn it into a political football to serve and protect a handful of custom employees.
    Nobody in their right mind would agree with the stance that you are taking especially with the most recent revelation and the ongoing and continuance of crime with an escalation of high power guns used in to hurt and kill any one who gets in the way,,,nobody would not agree that every port hole should be sealed in effort to contain the number of guns flowing onto the streets of barbados,
    You have now become a town crier of your own dismal display of arrogance with an attitude to put wrong in place of right and a possibility which could be a cost to your own life or friends and family,

    To you David you should remove The Above Declaration posted above the comment box as it is a clear misrepresentation of what you espoused

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    It just goes to show that you have been on the BU blog enough to concluded the just because I do not employ my name here that I can still walk the streets. Well I got news for you Caswell, firstly, you’re stupid to use your real name on this medium and secondly, David, Bush Tea, AC, MoneyBrain and many others who have been this BU blog for many years, knows my name because I have used my actual name for a long time in the past Brother. Caswell, you’re Johnny come lately so please do me a big favour and stop making an ass of yourself and take the little criticism because it will only serve to improve you as a person. NO PAIN NO GAIN!

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  • @Caswell

    Based on the document and reference presented it would be useful to prepare a matrix of countries in the world enforcing a no surveillance policy to give weight to your argument.

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  • @Dompey

    Because you have been commenting on the blog longer that Tom, Dick and Harry it does not mean many of your comments which are nothing more than rambling ‘soliloquies’ about your life in the USA are anything more than nuisance value. The same applies to your partner. See if it is possible even though you support the DLP party to post positions you can defend by citing reasonable positions. What makes it laughable is, you debate issues about Barbados in a 1970s context. When is the last time you visited Barbados?

    BU’s position is that we need surveillance, the issue is how do we implement it. Caswell has a different view, instead of dropping comments all over the blog like bird droppings try to attack the issue. Whether Caswell has a small union or some other irrelevant observation is not the point. People come on BU daily and attack the blogmaster, do you observe us wasting valuable time every day attacking these persons with personal characterizations? Both you and ac are logged on to BU longer than others and you post the most comments. What this means is that those who want to read your comments should get some value from it. To say it is a democracy and you are entitled to post empty comments means nothing. Try to read/follow positions sometimes and forget the personal attacks which have become boring to many who complain to BU. Engage in some introspection by asking how can my contributions add value to the exchanges. A discussion is not about you and your egos but about information shared.

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    Look how on numerous occasions bag-handlers at Kennedy airport were caught on camera surveillance rummaging through passengers luggage with the expressed intent of stealing their stuff. So how could you in good conscience argue against such a deterrent?

    Come on Caswell, you as a man of influence and position in Barbados should be insisting that camera surveillance be installed and monitered by an outside entity to ensure the right kind of conduct in an enviroment which has been in question for years.

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  • Well lawd have merci how disingenuous to state that attacks are being launched and perpetrated by those who have been attack those being ac and others of dissenting opinions. Well lawd hav merci blog master you need to check your self it seems your are suffering from a toxic case of untruths and a debilating form of polluted mouthing .in any case as you say it is not about the blogger but somehow it seems some have used a calculated form of intoxicated pleasure to degrade and ridicule when others opinion differ and blog master to no avail have you ever see it proper to discipline the likes of bush white who have constantly told untruths about ac martial status of which he knows nothing about.

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  • David

    You you’re talking nonsense David. Do I have to live in China to know what is going on in China? Do I have to visit Barbados on a regular basis to know that the QEH run out of toilet paper last year David. David, there is blog now called Facebook Barbados which debates the latest happenings in Barbados, plus I have three brothers and two sisters and a dear mother who still resides in Barbados. So stop spewing your nonsense David because it is not healthy for this important blog.

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  • @Dompey

    And we have noticed on Facebook Barbados and Wade Gibbons pages your comments are ignored. What does it say?

    The point BU made about not living in Barbados should not be interpreted as you just did, it obviously went pass your level of comprehension. An yes we have read your many comments, you don’t agree with Caswell. Do you have the capacity to move your argument forward? You may have the last word

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    David

    The last comment from donkey clearly shows why I have taken the position that I have on his contributions. Baggage handlers rummaging through bags is not the same thing as a customs officer conducting a private and confidential search of a passenger’s luggage. Nobody outside of customs should be privy to what is taking place while a person’s bags are being search.

    Neither customs officers nor I have ever said that they should be no cameras. We insist that the cameras were positioned to point in the wrong direction, and that the wrong persons were in control of the cameras and the stored images.

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  • David

    I am no longer on Facebook David because I am back here on BU now, but I cannot recall any instance where my good friend Wade Gibbons hadn’t replied to my comments in an intelligence and a positive manner. And as for as Facebook Barbados is concerned: I met some very wonderful people on that blog and we have had very great conversations. So I haven’t the slightest idea what you are talking about David; perhaps you have mistaken me for someone else?

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  • @ Caswell
    One does not cast pearls to swine.
    …otherwise, onlookers will conclude that you are mad as shiite. 🙂

    Dompey, AC and Alvin DO have roles to play on BU, – but shiite man, ….that does NOT involve serious debate on complex issues.
    Just ignore the JAs and move on….

    Leave it to Artax and Bushie to toss appropriate scraps to the ‘swine’ from time to time…

    @ Dompey
    …Congrats.
    It seems that you have not burnt down any buildings in C******* recently.
    Way to go boss…..

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  • Caswell Franklyn

    You should insist that the cameras be pointed directly at the Customs officers who have a known history and reputation of stealing visitors property in Barbados.

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  • Bush Tea

    Have I heard you correctly or perhaps I on an another blog … what complex issues do you and your lot discourse here on BU?

    Bushie, all you and your lot continually and perpetually do all day and all night is to malign to ruling government in the face of a national audience.

    Do you not wonder why the young people of Barbados show no real interest in conversing with you lot here on BU. Let me tell you why Bushie because as intelligent as you all may appear to be, you still cannot hold their interest of the young people of Barbados. Isn’t that a shame?

    David, Wade Gibbons and the Facebook Barbados blogs are loaded with young open-minded Barbadians who are engage in positive discussion daily with an emphasis on learning.

    Why hasn’t the BU blog been able to attach and engage the attention of the conscientious
    Barbadian youth as of yet?

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  • David

    I was born in 1966 in a quater of the city called Dean Village, and I haven’t any real knowledge of 1970 politics in Barbados, but what I have read and been told. David, 66+4=70; I was 4 years old brother!

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  • @Dompey

    If you are unhappy with the BU discourse why not retreat to FB where you are largely ignored?

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  • David

    Now lets move but I refuse and will repudiate any effort to bully me into accepting a position with belies the tools of common-sense and reason.

    And Caswell’s position doesn’t reflect the latter because what kind of nonsense is he conveying by trying to convinces us that the Customs officers have a problem with the cameras pointing directly at them. Well too bad, their reputation demands nothing less and if I had my own way I would strap the cameras on their persons.

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  • if cameras were evident we would caught the culprits that opened our container without us being present and helped themselves to our hard earned merchandise…! Like many returning nationals we were extremely disappointed at the custom officers for what they stole from us… We’re still, after 2 years, fighting to get justice and compensation for our stolen goods… At one point my wife decided that she could not take the stress and wanted to return to the UK….
    I’ve spoken to many returning nationals who have experienced the same fate. The majority of returning nationals are up in age and find even more stressful to complain, they therefore remain silent… Regardless of how long this takes, we will fight our case!!!
    Get the cameras in ASAP….!!!

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  • David

    BU is okay David, but like anything else it has its strengths as well as its weaknesses.

    Now with respect to your comment regarding Facebook -(Please)- Actually, I had a large following on Facebook from my childhood friends in Barbados, the Mounted Police, the college buddies, the Police Band members, the Army buddies, the Union friends, the coworkers family and strangers.

    But what I hated most about Facebook was the level hypocrisy emanating from family, friends and foes alike, so because I tell them all off and cause bad blood between us. I finally, decided that that overrated hypocritical medium wasn’t for me because I usually try to keep it real David.

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  • @ Dompey
    …so let us get this…!!
    Facebook don’t want you….
    BU don’t want you…
    ‘family, friends, and foes alike’ don’t want you…

    …so YOU decided to abandon that ‘over-rated medium’
    ..and to grace US here on BU with your “jack-assery” ….
    How thoughtful of you…. 🙂

    How about your neighbours…? you and them OK? cause…
    Bushie may be having second thoughts about your recent conflagration yuh…
    Um may not have been caused by your old cell phone without the spell-check after all…

    Watch ya self hear Domps…. Dem Merkans ain’t easy like David hear…?

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  • So what is the post about ? Ha!Ha!

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  • Three words by themselves are not funny “Every single topic”.
    But when you know the context, they bring water to your eyes as you die with laughter; and yet one can sense the frustration of the speaker.
    Let all speak.

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  • Bush Tea

    You’re the ultimate BU spin-doctor, twisting and misrepresenting others comments to appease your own self-serving agenad, as though you’re compensating for your extremely myopic phallus?

    Your time could be better spent sewing Hats for the deprived and underprivileged children of Barbados Bushie.

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  • I have read all of the postings and still cannot figure out why having cameras focused on customs officers as they carry out their duties is a “bad idea”.

    Are the officers fearful that that at some stage the videos will be circulated to the public and (1) can therefore lead to harm or threats against them and their families, or (2) such exposure could lead to attempts at bribery?
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    My concerns are (1) who would have control of the recordings, (2) how long would the recordings be stored and (3) what would the recordings be used for. These are items that should properly addressed before cameras are installed.

    They should be installed. We are all aware of the pros of having cameras in these area; a decrease in theft and pilferage and more transparency in dealings with the public.

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  • @David
    I see that quite often they are calls for censorship or banishment or some of the contributors. I am always fearful that you may be act on those requests.
    Hang in there, and continue to exercise sound judgement. Each is contributing in his/her own way.

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  • they=there

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  • …Or David, perhaps we should ship Bushie to Serbia to break big-rock into small- rocks in the zero degree weather?

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  • Observer

    Because Caswell Franklyn and David said that it is, and I guess they words are written law round and about these parts. It is kinda like the baddest man in the valley attitude around these parts bozzie.

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  • @TheObserver

    You have read the comments but have you read the blog and the quote from Article 10 why Caswell and others are opposed?

    @Domkey

    You are truly living up to your label as a jackass. If you reread the comments you should be able to discern BU is for the installation of cameras. However it does not mean we do not have the capacity to encourage opposing views. As stated previously you need to return to FB OR your meds.

    JA

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  • David

    I can see that there is a serious misunderstanding of the role and function of customs. Customs officers only come into contact with cargo in the presence of the importer or his agent. Cargo at the seaport is stored and secured by the Port Authority. Customs officers have no access. It would be difficult if not impossible for a customs officer to go into a secured area that is controlled by the Port Authority and steal things. A customs officer in that area would stick out like a sore thumb.

    When the cameras were first proposed in the area where officers check the barrels, it was as a result of complaints that the officers were not charging enough duty on barrels. They expected that the barrel trade would dry up with the advent of Price Mart and since that did not happen their only explanation was that customs was charging too little duty.

    They then proposed to install the cameras with such resolution that they would have been able to clearly pick up the handwriting of the officers. They would then have been able to see for themselves that the officers were giving breaks to the poor people that were relying on barrels from relatives to survive.

    Customs officers’ security is at risk if there are cameras pointing at them while performing their duties. If there is some concern about pilferage, it can only happen in the area that is outside the control of Customs. Maybe they should focus their cameras in that direction and stop trying to defame Customs Officers for political purposes.

    All of a sudden, the yardfowls are trying to blame Customs for every conceivable sin because their beloved DLP wants to disadvantage them in their move to BRA and the officers refuse to co-operate in their own demise.

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  • What does the article say? If one reads with clarity no where in the article dies it states with absolute that cameras should not be present while an officer is carrying out their duties. However it state with clarity that no information pertaining to custom duties should be obtained without judicial process
    One should consider that in issues if national security that long standing precedants have often been removed by courts making way for what is proper and right in the National interest

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  • David

    Don’t make me laugh David … what particularly is there to argue about? It belies reason and the tool of common-sense not to install those cameras given the past history and reputation of some Customs officers in Barbados. Caswell, argument appear to be nothing more than an appeal to ignorance argument, and he ought to have known better enough said David. Now, has Bush Tea taken my advice regarding the Serbia proposal? The one where he is charged with the duty of breaking big-rocks into small- rocks in the zero degree weather?

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  • Caswell, your assertion that the cameras not be directed at the Customs officers directly lacks strength of operational best practices. There are no secrets to searching a bag or barrel or no special customs practices that would be divulged with such a viewing.

    Surely showing the face of the officer is not required or necessary so the cameras can be pointing downward from behind the officer. In any properly organized operation if there is a need to identify the officer based on some discrepancy on the film then a combination of location identifiers (likely number of position) , time stamp and the general description of the officer shown would suffice to confirm a positive (and legally sound) identification.

    I was amused by your earlier remark to the extent that people (politicians in particular you asserted) would not want their stuff displayed for all to see. Well, as true as that may be it in no way takes away the right of any custom official to search personal belongings very aggressively.

    Were you suggesting that the ‘dildo’ couldn’t be filled with high quality white powder of the illegal variety? So a customs officer must be too embarrassed for Mr, or Ms. Politician or Private Citizen to check it carefully. I know you were tongue in cheek as you wouldn’t suggest such nonsense.

    I completely understand your concern that the video must be maintained by government officials ideally within Customs itself. And I completely understand your concern for the safety of Customs officers.

    But none of that negates that a practical and viable solution can be found for immediate security review of all aspects of customs interface to products passing across our borders.

    And I do not agree with your contention of severe threats to customs officers based on the video evidence. Currently if a Customs officer angers an importer, that officer’s identity is know. After all this is Barbados not Gatwick or O’hare or a seaport in either city; how does video info make it any more dangerous in a real world!!!

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  • David

    If there is one thing all Barbadians must agree upon, is the prompt installation of those cameras to keep check on those legal criminals in Customs who have been stealing people’s property for decades and more. Prior to migrating to the States my father sent the family a barrel, and when my madda I myself when down to the port to collective this barrel, more that haft of the items my father told us where in the barrel were missing.

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  • So stop defending ignorance David, you’re a much smart man than that. David, there is no room for compromise and debate regarding the installation of camera surveillance of these Customs officials. Let the history and practices of this egregious lot justify the warranted for such installation David.

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  • Dompey, you display your bias and thus your absolute inability to be objective very prominently. First it was that ‘College Boy’ diss that had you all in a tizzy and you manifested your pain on the BU pages like a young adolescent who couldn’t get over the long ago broken heart and diss by unnecessarily berating HC.

    Now is some fight you had with a Customs officer and you can’t listen to facts and realize you not being objective.

    According to the evidence of those who know, your assertions that ‘Customs’ stole your barrel items and always stealing ‘people things’ is a lazy, spiteful accusation that is likely way off the mark because before it gets to Customs there are many people who come into contact with the product who could be the culprits.

    That is obvious and straightforward to anyone who has even been involved with any aspect of importing yet you continue to berate only Customs specifically.

    What was it this time, did a Customs guy horn you? Or did a lovely Customs lass, tell you to haul your backside even before you got to first base?

    Take the facts as they are and stop allowing your personal slights to get in the way of commonsense. Fah real, stop being petty.

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  • LOL @ Dee Word who told Dompey…
    “Fah real, stop being petty…”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++
    …and do wuh? dry up?

    Man get over it Dee Word…
    Birds must fly and dogs must bark…
    Dompey is about petty…

    …and AC is about asinine…. BUT..

    At least AC has to be fairly attractive..
    …cause according to recent research
    a blogger CANNOT be ugly
    …AND unmannerly TOO….

    LOL ha ha ha

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  • I think I see the argument………it is said the
    problem with cameras is that they put 5 pounds on you. The real problem is five pounds of what

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  • Bush Tea

    Why can’t bloggers be ugly and unmannerly? You’re ugly and unmannerly, but yet you’re still here Bushie.

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  • Bush shit comes across as a lazy ass bore with no solvable solution for any problems his reasoning is a combination of comedic schick and long winded diatribe all summed up in one word BRASS BOWL.

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  • The article is a clear as daylight, Nowhere in the article does it opposed surveillance , No where ! the main objective of the article is to protect the collected information of an individual who enters ports , Nothing to do with customs officers Rights for protection , The govt has a Constitutional Right to protect the safety and integrity of a country
    The article correctly seeks to preserve a provisional a guarded constitutional right under law of an individual information not to be privy in the public domain main unless under judicial process and allowed by courts . Which therefore means that unless a person is caught engaging in illict action then and only then can such information be revealed and only if the courts deems it necessary, Again nothing to do with customs officers rights for protection,
    Without any two action one of illicit behaviuor and the courts permission to release an individual information any surveillance would remained protected by law . IF by chance such information is revealed without court permission and the individual rights has been abridged the individual has a right to seek remedy through the courts,
    Caswell is trying to hoodwinked people into a false belief that the article is addressing the custom officers right for protection His cryptic solicitous mouthings is nothing more than engaging in semantics and legal mumbo jumbo.
    Only a donkey like Bush sh,te and his accomplice speckled fowl in tow would fall for that Bull Shite,

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  • De Ingrunt

    Firstly, let me say this much: you have an impeccable writing skill, which in my estimation, is unmatched here on BU.
    Now, I have read and comprehended what you have written, but I think you have got me wrong sir. That is all I have to say in regards to your comment sir.

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  • After working hard in the garden and then mowing the lawn, sorting the laundry and cooking, I does cum here fuh a good belly laugh. Man bajans too funny doe. Anybody want a 6 pound cabbage, or a couple pounds of Russian Beauty tomatoes (low acid)? by the way, my pigeon peas blooming too perty, and uh gots me a garden pumpkin that already bout two feet long.

    Put the cameras in customs. We have them all over the place in Canada – at immigration, at luggage carousel, at customs, even in the elevators.

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  • Pat

    Pat don’t tell David and Caswell that girl becausing the both of dem tell me that BU supports the installation of camera surveillance in Customs, but their want to entertain an opposing viewpoint to see what others make of it.

    Oh God girl, have you ever hear such nonsense in yah life child? Girl I tell yah … this kind of reasoning on the part of these two very smart fellas is a practical example of an educational system gone bankrupt my dear child.

    But any how tek care and dont forget to share some of yah vegetables with the one called Bush Tea becausing he is in want of the much needed nutrition to help he with he wooden foot and oversized stones.

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  • Pat

    Girl David landbased mah so and so tah today, so I dont want tah incur he rebuke nahmore, so I gine keep mah mout shut girl and mine mah business yah hear?

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  • I just cannot see what all the fuss is about. It is obvious to the rest of the world, or those who care to investigate, that there is all kind of skullduggery going on with customs at the airport. Why would employees be against surveillance by CCTV when their own job is to do the very same, ie assume all passengers are possible suspects of smuggling or worse and surveille their very toes?
    Other airports have cameras on their staff for good reason! Theft is a major issue at airports internationally. I have never had anything stolen but I know plenty of tourists and regular travellers who have been treated like a source of personal revenue by not just the occasional official but at the highest level at GAIA. I’ve complained to Virgin about uniformed check-in staff demanding arbitrary sums. Respectable people I personally know well have arbitrarily been deemed upon arrival to be unwelcome, told to leave or else pay a massive sum so they can come into the country!
    If there is a good reason these individuals are deemed as unwelcome, why then to let them in as long as they pay a demanded $US10,000!!!? Meantime just being an ordinary passenger with ordinary luggage?
    There should be no grey area about such events, all too common these days. Unless the person is a threat to national security, all such interviews should be recorded on CCTV. If the person is suspected of criminal activity, the camera recordings of their detention by customs can be noting but useful to the authorities.
    Now as far as employees at the airport are concerned, they need to be watched. If they are not doing anything wrong, why should they mind?

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  • Victor

    “If they are not doing anything wrong, why should they mind?”

    It is obvious that their have something to hide because who in their right mind wouldn’t want/wish camera-surveillance- which acts as an deterrent to the unscrupulous conduct where by ensure the right kind of working-environment?

    Caswell Franklyn’s, very defence shows how primitive an attitude he has or he wishes to encourage amongst the Custom officials in Barbados regarding the camera surveillance.

    Those of us who live in America, Canada, and the United Kingdom knows quite well that it is impossible today to go to any government institution without having some sort of camera-surveillance direct at you or the personnel who works there. And you could argue against it when one sees the benefits to be derived from having such a piece in one’s place of employment?

    Caswell Franklyn, this is the way we do business in the wider-world today, and you better get with the program if your interesting in seeing Barbados progress from its primitive state to a more advance one. And those of your sort who think that it is a bad idea to have this piece of camera-surveillance directed at them too bad.You need to suck it up as their say in the military and drive on.

    Caswell, it is not your call neither that of the Customs officers, it is the reputation and image of our country that is at stake here sir. So if the government think it best to install this piece of surveillance equipment to ensure the proper conduct within this working-environment, then I am sure and I do know that it is a valid concern.

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  • It seems to me when some people have a propensity to interpret situations to suit their own purposes or political agenda.

    When did Caswell ever stated or implied that he or Custom Officers are against the installation of surveillance cameras at ports of entry?

    Customs is regarded as a law enforcement agency. Since officers have to conduct interviews, searches of passengers’ luggage and engage in activities that are sensitive in nature.

    Under these circumstances, they are of the opinion that persons from an external agency SHOULD NOT be charged with the operation of the cameras. These functions should be performed by customs officials.

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  • Who de hell is Caswell Franklyn to Tell any Employer where and how they should protect their Interest in matters that indicates a beefing up of security ,,give me a break,,

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  • Caswell needs to give up on this issue as many Barbadians are fully in agreement with govt taiking the necessary steps to protect the public and country from crime and violence.No matter who is offended,He might have started the war but for sure his usual outburst belies sound reasoning and common sense on this issue
    His often attempt to muddy the water is so overdone that by now most understand that on most issues he stand alone and simply ignores his pleas

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  • Wuh de shiite!!!!

    25 out of a total of 62 contributions. 25 contributions of pure Shiite. The man is a haraam.

    Bushie or De Word, check out the meaning of “haraam.”

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  • Artax

    I think is best you return to bed brother. Calling on Bushie in gine save yah butt because when start to turning up the heat on yah backsit don’t act wimpish like de she she you are.

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  • The camera thing at the airport could get embarrassing for some of the agents, it is far to easy that a self examination for testicular cancer can turn into a wank.

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  • Artax

    I have reiterate this to you time and time again and I shall iterate once more: your opinion only matters if I value it, and as you well know: I could give two flying farts what you or Bushie thinks of my contribution here on Bu. What is your problem dude? Are you a sucker for verbal molestation? Can’t you hold your own in a classroom of your peers, so you feel the need to come here to BU to spew and parrot your regurgitated theory beholding to others, in an effort to compensate for your lack self-assurance and want of approval? What is your problem sir? If you haven’t heard enough about me, then you better ask about me sir.

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  • @ Artaxerxes,

    You could use the scroll button on the right to bypass comments that should be ignored.

    Works for me.

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  • Artax

    This is my final word to you this morning because yah like yah want tah raise up the Devil in me: stop hiding under Bushie petticoat, and man up and stand up and face the music head on Artax.

    I have better things to do with my time than to hang around this blog and argue who can write the best, and whose contribution meets the BU committee approval and so forth and so on.

    I have made my contribution as a Bajan who still cares about his country, and you David, Bush Tea and the lot can either choose to read it, or ignore if, yall think that it is of no value.

    But at least give me or anyone else the autonomy and choice to contribute to the blog, devoid of your bandwagon critique.

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  • Hants

    To be quite with you: I have never read anything you have written on BU. Bush Tea, more that you or Artar contributes a lot more to this blog with his practical knowledge, than the both you do combined.

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  • Artax

    If you and your lot think that getting on the medium each and everyone and pulling the government in the face of a national audience is doing the country any good, then you might as well abandon your eductional aspirations.

    How about discussing for a change: the biodiversity, the impact of pollution on our planet, the health of the ecosystem, terrorism and its relationship to the Barbadian way of lif, Cancer and its relationship to diet and nutrition, as well as proactive measures such early detection, preventive and containment?

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  • @ Hants

    I don’t READ Haraam’s shiite, I COUNT how many times he posts shiite.

    Similar to a SPOILT LITTLE GIRL who is deprived of having “her own way,” she will resort to exhibiting paroxysmal behaviour, characterized by temper tantrums, a tirade of insults and pejorative descriptions of her “enemies”.

    Reminds me of days gone by when a woman, who may “grudge” another woman for the type of house, education, job or even the type of man they have, would stand in the streets in front of her “enemy’s” house, hold up her dress and “block.” She would keep repeating the same cuss words and insults over, and over and over.

    Perhaps it’s an inherited trait from her mother.

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  • Artax, go back to bed you get no attention here sir? I hope I haven’t crash your far reaching ego?

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  • @ David and Artaxerxes

    Do you remember that some time ago the DLP launch a radio station? What ever happen to that? Oh ok, they have DLPTV and the radio station to spew their garbage.

    It is a burning shame that the aforementioned morons would not use that medium to pout their DLP rhetoric to their ilk but would continue to bombard BU with their garbage.

    This tells you that the DLP operatives have an agenda………..no matter how far the country is sinking, the DLP is to be paramount.

    Do like me, scroll pass their comments and vote them down!

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  • Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    Jadan King and shamar Weekes

    What do these two children recently lost in incidents of purported and proven child abuse have to do with this Customs Officer Issue and Cameras?

    We are a people who love to deal with issues after the fact, after the loss of life, after the abuse of privileges, after the $5M disappears to your mother’s bank account, bless her recently departed soul, and may GOD have mercy on yours

    Afterwards!!

    Customs officers are one of the last defence mechanisms against contraband and other undesirable contents for a 166 sq mile country.

    It would be a stupid man or woman to say that we do not need customs officers. So we agree that their jobs are needed.

    Let us now reason together.

    What is the issue at contention is not that there should not be cameras either because it is agreed that (i) it is a prerequisite of Customs work by all countries (ii) it records what transpired during an examination of containers/luggage/crates and (iii) it records who interacts with the various packages and other sensitive contents like peoples personal shipped items.

    We all agree that there are bad apples in any, and many a bunch, and we therefore can understand that, barring having a policeman permanently on duty watching those who guard, then cameras will allow us to be more efficient with our times.

    One night I was in de airport when Ms. Ram came through with 18 bags on a flight from Murica. One uh de sons did sen fun me en de madam tuh come tuh ** fuh a visit.

    Ms Ram had so many bags that it too 4 red caps to carry them out the airport where a big van met her to transport them wherever.

    I was there when the Customs man asked her “anything to declare” she answered “no” and he stamped her blue customs card and she walked out the arrivals lounge with 4 black menses in tow.

    The point is that that customs officer like the Gollop fellow at the airport, was tiefing from the government coffers.

    If a camera was there at least, while it was still possible that the officers who were monitoring the checkpoints, and the customs officers and the persons checking the surveillance tapes could all be in cahoots, at least if they were not, and it was 10 bags of cocaine being shipped in, someone would have seen the shipment.

    Cswell Franklyn is not saying that there should not be cameras to capture all of this activity, he is just saying that outsourcing that function to the Manager of the City of Bridgetown Credit Union, to call a name just to be facetious, does not make sense.

    When I as de outside monitoring agency know who wukking pun de 10.30 shift from Murica pun a Wednesday, and kin tell lord Evil or dat fellow wid 15 empty restaurants dat nuhbody doan really eat at, but seem tuh be a cover fuh illegal gains, when I kin tell dem fellows who does be in de airport or transit shed when my luggage or baggage coming thru causing I, even doah i ent no customs officer, got access to dat info, den it is evident dat I planning tuh smuggle in tings dem, by way of this inside information.

    Oh by de way, de Petition to Ban ** & ** back up pun my facebook page “Of Dondeys and A(s)Sies, we only gots to get 10,000 signatures by concerned BU-ians and it all ovah fuh Hee Haw and de next Brayer. (we still doan know how de alter ego fellow dat got sense gine be able to post doah, de committee still meeting..)

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  • Cameras have revealed much in recent times and none more important than the blatant disregard for the lives of some young men. Cameras cannot harm honest people and Barbados cannot afford dishonest people. Cameras should also be placed in classrooms.

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  • This camera in Customs business came up before many years ago under Leroy’s tenure. He said at the time that he was not against cameras, but he had some conditions that had to be met before the Union approved. I spoke to him personally, and he agreed with me that cameras could also protect the staff from malicious clients. I, after all these years was under the impression that there were cameras at the Port, at least. I told my late departed mother and others that they don’t have to lock their barrels as there were cameras there. I have sent barrels to my great aunt without locks or tape as well. Nothing was taken.

    What boggles my mind is why the government backed down re the cameras. Was Sir Roy talking through both corners of his mouth?

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  • To echo earlier points made, majority view is not against cameras, it is the outsourcing of the recordings and supervision of the surveillance. Not sure how many times this needs to be repeated.

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  • Why Cameras Should NOT be Focused on Customs Officers…

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  • piece

    The government of Barbados is ahead of the game because practically everything in this country is outsourced.

    Take for example the transit system in the state of Connecticut, which is outsouced by the state government to several private bus companies, but the state still oversight with the rules and regulations.

    Piece, it is more economical for the state government because for one: the drivers aren’t state employees, so their are not entitled the expensive pension package etc. So what is wrong with outsourcing camera surveillance to a private entity in Barbados. The DLP government is far a head of the game, but we have asshole like Caswell Franklyn trying to insult the collective psyche of a nation with an argument which appeals to ignorance.

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  • @King Solomon

    The other side of the debate suggest Barbados is a small (2×3) country, every body is a brother, sister, cousin etc and the need to shield information takes on greater importance than in the bigger countries with bigger geographies and a more impersonal setup. It is a point which has merit knowing how Barbados operates. Even the AG admitted last week the Customers Officers have a point on the outsourcing of the supervision of surveillance of the workspace of Customers Officers. In law Customer Officers are responsible for border protection, only them.

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  • Piece

    This is an accurate account of a story which occurred quite a few years ago: I took a friend of mine to the US Immegration to see about her citizenship, and it so happened that the guard and I started talking casually, and something prompted me to ask him if the federal government paid him well? And to my surprise he said to me that:” He wasn’t a federal employee, and that the security company he was employed by contracted with federal government to performed the security for the federal entity where he was employed.”

    And yet this private security company was charged with manning the camera-surveillance at this federal establishment. So Caswell, why would there be a problem if the same course is followed in Barbados?

    What some people have fail to comprehend is the fact that even though the federal or state governments outsources these jobs, the employees are still subject to some of the same legal sanctions as the regular federal or state employee.

    So I would assume that even those the government of Barbados outsource this job to a private entity, that this private entity must operate within the prescribed guidelines, or else it will be subject to legal sanctions.

    So I do not see how by employing a private entity to man surveillance at Customs in Barbados would in any way compromised or impede upon he constitutional rights of an employ? When such camera surveillance can address some of the improprieties in that working environment.

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  • David, man that is perfectly proportioned @ 2X3. A lovely 14×21 island, is right! LOL.

    On more serious matters though, Dominica get lick up bad.

    Bout dey in US a lot of talk surrounds the anniversary of the whopper that was Katrina and the damage it did in New Orleans; seems as if Erika is that type of devastation on our little neighbour.

    We sure know how lucky we are not be digging out from that hammering.

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  • And by the way we have camera-surveillance on the schools buses,city buses and trains etc.

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  • @ Pat
    What boggles my mind is why the government backed down re the cameras. Was Sir Roy talking through both corners of his mouth?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    No Pat. …Nothing to do with the Duke…

    A few of the ministers worked out that after cameras were installed in Customs …and everybody saw how much things improved, some brass bowl idiot would then call for cameras to be placed in government offices; in contract meetings; in the Central bank vault (were a few million went missing some time ago); and in the damn Treasury – where there is MASSIVE leakage as we speak…

    …best to blame the Customs people …and nip this thing in the bud before things get out of hand 🙂

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  • @Dee Word

    Yes Dominica was struck by a hurricane yet again. It makes you wonder why them and not us. Maybe it would knock the ignorant smug expressions from our faces. In Barbados we have 10 or 20 organizations establishing relief funds. Commonsense suggest this is an opportunity to collapse as one for a worthy cause. No, we have to go for the PR.

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  • Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    Listen to me Dufus..

    Having a man guard who is a private contractor working at an office IS NOT THE SAME as hiring that private contractor as a CIA or FBI agent CAN YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD?

    DO YOU KNOW OF THE BLACKWATER INCIDENT IN IRAQ?

    That was a classic experiment of “hiring private sector employees to do the job that the military should do, gone wrong!!

    THere are certain jobs that are central to national SECURITY THAT YOU CANNOT OUTSOURCE.

    Let me break it down for you in language that you can understand, because it seems that only by using crudeness will break common sense break through into your ROCK STONE BRAIN.

    You have children right?

    Imagine that on the night you got married to your wife (bless her soul) that, you in your normal exemplary brilliance decided that, in order for you to to secure progeny, that you were going to assign that task to the gardener, or to one of the neighbours who pulled you out of the fire in C******.

    Now I want you to stick with me here.

    The outcome, as long as the neighbour and/or the gardener were not impotent or sterile and that your wife was fertile and receptive would be the same as if you did the task, would it not?

    Why then did you not outsource that task of, as the Bajans say, breeding you wife”? Some might be inclined to say that it might have meant that the donkey gene would have ended with you but I am not going to encourage that type of thinking and cry shame on them all.

    Notwithstanding Dufus, that is the point that Caswell Franklyn has been saying to you and other readers of this submission.

    THERE ARE SOME FUNCTIONS THAT YOU DO NOT OUTSOURCE LEST YOU DILUTE THE GENE AND, in addtion to “muh fadder ent muh fadder but muh fadder ent know, CRETINS ARE THE OFFSPRING!!

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW?

    Good. now I can cancel the AA plane ticket that I paid for Mr. Sealy from St Leonards School now at the Nation to come to C********* with the special plaited DOG Hunter and to beat you within an inch of your life, AGAIN, with the hope that a little light would go off in your head you would not revert to this topic again with such simplistic reasoning.

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  • Mr Dompey, at last count earlier when I was here I believe Artax had you pegged at 29 posts, so I presume you are about 35 now out of about 75+. Oh lawd.

    Artax’s point was that you were being a humbug who brought no substance to the debate yet you posted almost 50% of the thread. He called you a ‘haraam’.

    So oh sinful one who is so wrought with his imprecise view how can you continue to compare the large US Fed Gov’t use of private security in the ‘office’ environment of p’port processing to the border control aspects in what David accurately call a 2X3 island?

    Didn’t the US also employ the BlackWater private soldiers to fight and provide security in Iraq and beyond. Do you contemplate that is a ‘outsourcing’ practice that would work in a small country too?

    There are some processes that are not ideal for small governments and in this matter your POV is not shared by the majority here. It is clearly understood though. Do you even understand the opposing views.

    This cam matter is really a minor point to elicit your repeated noise.

    Good gracious, ease up guy!

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  • This is why we told him not to contextualized solutions in a 70s landscape. It is clear some on BU are intent on playing the man and not the ball.

    JAs

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  • What You (David) and Caswell fails to realize that both of your positions is contrary and confrontational to the Rule of good governance. Your Positions be that of opposing how the cameras should be placed and who should be allowed to carry out the surveillance short circuits the very purpose and full functioning of the surveillance objective.
    Furthermore what is there not to prevent another dissenting opinion by other govt employees supported by Unions one similar in nature to apply the same strategy with an opposing view if and when another govt office needs tightened security.
    isn’t the Job of govt to regulate all necessary functionalities that would secure a safe environment or is it the role of employees and Unions to oversee the functioning roles pertaining to the Nations security?
    Isn;t it a Constitutional Right duty bound that all matters involving the national security of a country must be maintained and controlled by govt
    It therefore boggles the mind that A Union any Union would step into an area of National security to breach a Constitutional Right which gives the government the right to controll and take measures of protection if and when the National security of a nation is threatened.
    For the Union to leapfrog over the Constitution as if it doesn’t matter to issue dictates or directives in the best interest of the employee against the rule of law truly boggles the mind

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  • de Ingrunt Word August 30, 2015 at 4:32 PM #

    “Mr Dompey, at last count earlier when I was here I believe Artax had you pegged at 29 posts, so I presume you are about 35 now out of about 75+. Oh lawd. Artax’s point was that you were being a humbug who brought no substance to the debate yet you posted almost 50% of the thread. He called you a ‘haraam’.”

    De Word, “Haraam is Arabic for “donkey.”

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  • De Ingrunt

    I gine tah bed but I gine left yah a little something for you to chew on: I know you have heard it said that you can prove anything with Theory and Statistics. Now good night and try and find another punching boy because I am not the one. You know I come back punching like Iron Mike Tyson.

    De Ingrunt

    Have you ever been out of Barbados? How would know what is or what isn’t suitable or what would or would not work for a small island, when you haven’t even been to St.John in Barbados?

    It take more than writing a load bullshit day in day out on BU to understanding what ought and ought working in a small island.
    It take a practical experience to know what would work for a small island and not the load crasp you call theory that you continually spew on BU daily.

    Nevertheless, you have the audacity, the temerity, and unmitigated-gall to insult my intelligent with your know it all attitude by asking if I understand what is meant by an opposing viewpoint. Yes Ignorant I do!

    Last night I said that you command an impeccable writing skill, but I never said that your were smart.

    There is a distinctive as well as polar difference between being able to articulate and being smart and unfortunately you do not meet the latter criterion.

    Artax

    Oh Lord! I just got off of utube and came back to BU and find Barbados most funniest comedian trying to be funny. Boss, stay in school as long as their would let you because you would drop dead from hunger, if you had to support yourself by meking people laugh.

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  • Commander in Chief aka -Prankster the Mankster eating Mangoes sunnyside up and egging off while Alfing around to the Max

    I have not yet spoken on this matter. Nobody called me for a comment. Just want to add though that Bajans pontificate on things of which they know little or nothing. We have to curtail the tendency to be ‘influential’ by trying to prove that we know. This approach is destroying the Country. Each one teach one. None is bigger/ more powerful than the other.

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