@MoneyBrain February 15, 2015 at 10:43 AM
]The political connection certainly complicates this case and that is why I would prefer an independent investigation by Scotland Yard, FBI or some group that has straightened such situations thoroughly and expediently in the past. This is not a situation for amateurs or political gamesmanship. Bring in a foreign group where this case is but the first step towards meeting out justice to the Corrupt Politicians DAMAGING the Country[
If you go that route with Parris then take it in all business dealings. Prof Neville Duncan posited that insider trading and monopolistic practices among the business elites are at the core of problems with the uneven distribution of wealth in Barbados. Duncan earned huge respect for telling it as it is he didn’t toe the political line as is endemic among the political hacks who masquerade as lecturers at Cave Hill. If you call the hotshots at FBI and Scotland Yard let them examine Tom, Ralph,Dick and Harry, Charles, every man jack.
@At My 2Cents
EXACTLY why we MUST have Outsiders come in to do a Servicmaster job ie Clean UP everything one time and done!
When the clean up is complete we must have INTEGRITY Legislation IMPOSED. Pay MPs $500k+ p.a. BUT JAIL the MISCREANTS!
FBI should be looking to LOCK UP the Trini connection for Money Laundering any way, just conduct a proper Forensic Audit on the key people. I dont know where all the Bdos Clico money is but surely all these bad actors can be subject to proper Personal Forensic Audits. Whoever is crooked should be charged for ML,Tax Evasion etc.
To Artax, Caswell as you gentlemen appear to have a solid grasp on the local environment.
Based on the forensic audit, Parris was entitled “to receive an annual bonus of $300K per year between 2003 and 2007, increasing to $600K per
year in 2008. ” Essentially he is reported to have received bonuses of $2.1 in the years 2003 to 2008.
This is of course separate from his actually ‘salary’ I expect.
My question: Was this level of payment comparable to the remuneration of executives of similarly sized companies in Barbados ?
@DeeWord
No his salary was not especially employed by a local subsidiary of mediocre balance sheet performance.
In the above newspaper article, it shows a list of 13 separate assets (including cash ) valued at over $20 million.
How is the freezing of $4.5 million a “hardship”
@MoneyBrain February 15, 2015 at 12:35 PM…”why we MUST have Outsiders come in to… Clean UP everything one time and done!”========
You know very well that is a pipe dream.
Jurisdictions like Barbados bring in ‘outsiders’ only when the original problem involves outsiders principally like a murder scandal involving tourists or some financial scandal with major international implications.
In those instances you wash your hands of any local bias and get significant upside publicity heralding your transparency.
When do you know that a local jurisdiction will invite outsiders to investigate their OWN corruption!
@ Money B
I dont know where all the Bdos Clico money is but surely all these bad actors can be subject to proper Personal Forensic Audits. Whoever is crooked should be charged…
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You alright hear….!
…but how about those “innocent” board members with the big names, who allowed their reputations to be used to prop up this Ponzi scheme in exchange for some CLICO perks like first class flights, Box memberships etc?
..How about family members and legal associates who helped to launder the proceeds via various deals etc…?
..How about officials who may have received various expensive ‘gifts’ to help them to see the wisdom of taking certain steps….or not …as the case may have been…?
Are you not concerned that these “fine upstanding citizens” may be tarnished in the process?
When you go and bring in the FBI or Mounties, will they not be guided by that strange first-world idea that directors have a fiduciary responsibility for which they can be held accountable? …that crooked lawyers should be jailed?
You think those fellows care who is a leper or who sleep at who? …or who is who child godfather?
Obviously our authorities are handling this matter with the needed tact and care needed to ensure that our fine and upstanding citizens are not discomforted….
…and it seems to Bushie that the concerned policy holders are of like mind….
http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2015/02/14/legal-knocks/
“Accusing the judiciary in Barbados of not delivering justice in a timely manner, the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) has strongly condemned the local courts’ “excessive and inordinate” delays in resolving cases.
But the Trinidad-based court reserved even harsher words for prominent Barbadian Queen’s Counsels Vernon Smith and Hal Gollop as well as their associate Steve Gollop, charging them with abusing the judicial process.
Those criticisms were leveled by CCJ president Justice Sir Dennis Byron yesterday, in a judgment in which the regional court dismissed a case brought by the three lawyers. The case surrounded a land deal that went sour and was brought by Smith, Gollop and Gollop on behalf of land developer Systems Sales Ltd, against Arletta Brown-Oxley, the executrix of the estate of now deceased Glenfield DaCosta Suttle and his widow Sonja Patsena Suttle.
In November last year, the CCJ delivered a similar ruling in this matter, but it was later refiled by the lawyers who protested that the judgment was published in the media before being communicated to the litigants and their legal representatives.
In yesterday’s rejection of the application for leave, the panel of judges said it took the Barbados courts 16 years to resolve this matter, but noted the courts were able to return judgment within six months on the grounds that the application had no realistic chance of succeeding at appeal.
But the CCJ accused the attorneys of seeking to further deny the respondents their rightful due, even after a protracted delay in the local courts.”
“The court also contended that the conduct in bringing the case, using a wrong process, and having no realistic chance of success, fell into the category of improper, unreasonable and negligent conduct.
In dismissing the case and making an order for wasted costs, the CCJ ruled that there be no further proceedings in this matter without leave of the tribunal.
After the CCJ’s first ruling on the matter in November 2014 which he called unjust, Queen’s Counsel Gollop strongly advised other countries that have not joined on to the CCJ to stay away from the regional court.”
He has the nerve to say that . Crook, I hope you rot in hell. As one of the pensioners who cannot get our pensions because of you and all your crooking friends. I want to see you put in jail for the rest of your life.
@ DeeWord February 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM #
“My question: Was this level of payment comparable to the remuneration of executives of similarly sized companies in Barbados?”
My problem with Parris’ “salary” lies in the fact that his remuneration package was negotiated between his company, Professional Financial Services and CHBL, which makes him, through his company, responsible for providing services to CHBL. Hence, under these circumstances, I’m finding it somewhat difficult to acknowledge Parris’ role in the company as an “employee”, but that of a “consultant”.
Another interesting development that would have arisen as a result of this “arrangement” is how Parris’ monthly salary would have been recorded in the accounting records, i.e. as salary expense, which is subject to NIS and PAYE. If he was paid for providing services, he would have to recognize these fees as income and be required to comply with relevant statutory obligations, by filing corporation or income tax and VAT returns.
It would be also difficult to verify if Parris’ “level of payment was comparable to the remuneration of executives of similarly sized companies in Barbados”, because of the anomalies created by the special arrangement between him, PFS and CHBL.
Recall, the forensic auditors were unable to review the specificities of his employment contract, but were conveniently presented with information relative to his remuneration and bonus packages, with some correspondence being “updated” to reflect authorization of previous payments.
Hence, we are forced to analyse the issue from the point of view that the contractual agreement between PFS and CHBL, was one deliberately established to facilitate the payment of Parris’ exorbitant salary.
@Dee W and Bushie
Assuming that Outsiders of high Ethical Standing are NOT involved then it is a very optimistic person who believes anything will change without very powerful independent outsiders! Wunna totally permanently screwed then! (more than 10 ins screws too) Wuhloss!
Bushie let the guillotine DROP on ALL Miscreants! You like to think you know me and indeed you DONT! I have dropped a dime/ quarter upon White crooks in TO before and will in the future when appropriate. When you managing a business in Bim U sometimes get EXTORTED to pay for “services” that are already covered by legal means.
Those Ethical ones in the local Judiciary et al will be given an “offer that they cant refuse” as in Mafia choice! “Tek de blendser or we tek your L—.”
I have read this entire thread and I can tell you that every one seems to be on the same page but there seems to be a annoying individual JA who seems dumb deaf and devoid of sight, There must be a level playing field and to arrive at a level playing field, the law , the rules, the regulations and practices must apply to ALL , Fraternal ties of whatever kind should not be allowed to get in the way of justice. The admonishment by the CCJ about justice in Barbados is on point. Hal Gollop and his cohorts should -park ! They are Unworthy and should be locked up really ! — for perverting the course of Justice. Citizens need to take control of Barbados because the Politicians have failed and all the other hand to mout organizations and ass licking institutions headed by lackeys are non-functioning and ineffective–JAs
Leroy needs locking up for even suggesting that he is seeing hardship with so many millions more at his disposal.
But first the story must be told how he move from was a salesman at Da Costa & Musson to the CEO of CLICO. He must be a very smart man.
The Contents of David Thompson will has been sealed from scrutiny of possible creditors… This cannot be legal …
@Clone
Proves the old saw” it is NOT what you know, it is Who you know.”
He may have been placed purposely with a plan?
Where he went to school?
@Baffy
Once the Forensic Audit is conducted then surely restitution is possible?
Caswell, you shouldn’t be confused only 4 people i could think of could possibly love Parris, his Mother, Wife, Duprey & David T.. Parris should however write a book on how to succeed for as a “poor boy from St John who started as a mason he certainly acquired impressive holdings,
Understood Artax. The questions whether Parris was an independent contractor or employee are relevant for all the reasons you highlighted but that’s an easy out if prosecuted. He is fined and assessed whatever back-taxes/VAT/NIS etc is due.
Based on all his permutations with that Thompson check its reasonable to conjecture that he played fast and loose with both his income tax and the corporate returns for his companies so some tax penalties liability surely would be found.
As you have previously outlined the fraud/money laundering avenues are the best to really stick the thorn in his side.
On the point of remuneration I was trying to wrap my head around that for better perspective. Had seen a brief article out of Jam. but the details on Bdos executive pay are not freely available.
According to a Jamaica, 2013 Gleaner article the management salary ranged from a low of J$2.9 million to a peak at J$19.29 million based on a survey done by PwC (Price Waterhouse) in 2008.
That peak salary was commanded by a finance executive in sales and distribution.
As with other corporate cultures. “the survey also found that cash for individual performance bonus was the typical short- term incentive plan offered to employees.”
At today’s rate that peak Jamaican salary is US$167K.
Parris’ incentive bonus was US$150K in ’03 and ballooned to US$300K in ’08.
So in a B’dos context – if the scales are comparable – he was certainly at the top of the executive pool here.
It would be interesting to compare his income/bonus to people like CEO Miller at Sagicor.
Those guys must be minting money over there if Parris was earning at the levels we have heard.
Just getting some perspective.
Most of CL’s executives made in excess of $6million to ten million a year, were provided with company-issued and maintained luxury cars, laptops, first class airfare and miscellaneous fees on a myriad number of undisclosed transactions. Insiders say there was no structure to the corporate beast called CL Financial, that executives were given free rein, went on trips with no fixed agendas and oftentimes produced no invoices to substantiate their credit card expenses.
A standing joke among CL’s executive ranks, said sources, was that getting fired was the the best thing that could happen to someone in the CL Financial Group – because the compensation packages ensured that one walked away a multimillionaire.
@DeeWord
To repeat Parris’ salary/remuneration was an outlier, you will just have to take out word on it. Whether he was paid via his company or not does not change whether his salary was aligned to top local executives. Again, CLICO Barbados Holdings had moderate P&Ls through the years,
kevin the lone gunslinger this morning tried to provide another vantage from the other side of the coin but was blown right out of the water what some of the BLP misfits does not realize that people are not dumb and some see this LP sleigh hammer attack a ways to an end and a way to decimating govt and a chastisement of sort for PM stuart support of LP,
the problem an hurdle that the BLP got going forward and a necessary action to cover all tracks is to single out and exposed LP as a crook whereby the Courts are in agreement with their side not an easy task.
If this all backfires as undoubtedly it will because of inclusive evidence and the fact that Clico records does show that many executives receive higher than higher bonus ,Then the BLP would be shown for what they are political warmongers leaving a lot of dust an damage in their trail.
The last comment posted by ac was extracted from:
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/CL_executives_point_fingers_at_Duprey-115422129.html
@MoneyBrain February 15, 2015 at 2:30 PM …Where he went to school?======
But wait, obviously he went Kolig. LOL!
Isn’t that where all we big-shots Judges, Lawyers and CEO come from!
So, David February 15, 2015 at 3:26 PM …To repeat Parris’ salary/remuneration was an outlier,.. CLICO Barbados Holdings had moderate P&Ls through the years===========
Ok, good sir. So spell it out for me.
Are you saying that the very large remuneration given to Leroy Parris could not by any stretch of the imagination be in line with the modest financial performance of the CIL/CBHL companies?
Are you saying that in fact he was used and using this as a vehicle to launder monies to various political and other persons in Barbados?
Be straight with me please.
Are you saying that the $3.3M check of which it’s alleged that 16% was retained by the law firm was in fact one of the ways used to facilitate these payments.
My learned moderator are these things what you are suggesting?
Tudor
I think you got your information wrong. He was not a mason; he was a labourer at Clarke & Tucker. But starting at such a lowly position seems not to be an impediment to achieving riches through hard work. You might not be aware that a woman who retired as a plantation labourer was able to save $5 million for her children to fight over. And our former PM who started out sweeping floors for Mrs. Ram managed to leave an estate of $37 million. it just goes to show that it does not matter where you start, if you are prepared to use your god given assets you can achieve anything.
@Deeword
Clico Barbados Holdings served a purpose in Duprey’s universal plan. Connect the dots. Parris was rewarded for his loyalty to Duprey.
But why didn’t P mentioned the Miami account from which he made a payment of US$500,000 on account of an arrangement with Sir Richard Cheltenham and Larry Tatem for shares in a local company. And this same deal loan Cheltenham and Tatem $4,000,000 of policyholders money on a procommissary notebu previously reported on this lawsuit before the High Court number 770 of 2000 and itbars still has a lawsuit before the court claiming 1 million Barbados dollars from Cheltenham and Tatem.
I met the guy Parris in a night club on the South Coast, he was throwing money around then…! My view, keep his assets frozen as a lesson him and others…! It’ll stop him and his side kicks from bragging about how wealthy they are…!
@DeeWord
YES! That is( Kolij) where the Big Professionals went BUT NOT the BIG CROOKS!
The Miscreants went to C——-, F—-, P—- et c.
You all are focusing on Paris and the dead crook, I want the entire empire of crooked politicians starting with those in the Barbados Labour Party who were wrapped up in the CLICO affair and those of the worst backward and crooked is ass misfits DLP, to feel the full weight of some law. But Paris reminds me of the character in Schindler’s List and the way how that character bought the NAZI decision makers to achieve great fame and respect. The difference between the character in Schindler’s List and Paris was a few thousand Jews were saved. That was the plot and the plan. In Paris case he bought many government heads and politicians with his money but he was not intent our recognizing the suffering of the policy holders. He has destroyed many lives but he put a plan in place for his protection. That plan is all the politicians and other high profile persons he bought.. They must now protect him at all cost as he holds a trump card call blow the whistle. Will we see justice meted against Paris; I have my doubts under our system of manipulative justice. Paris will walk away from this.
David, you know these Rorschac dots schemes real difficult. This one got too much TT bobbol!
The days of ‘money isn’t the problem, the problem is money’ are no longer as brazenly said but the O’Hallaron type operations have continues unabated.
This morning I was reading the jokes corner with a friend and this one reminded me of the current predicaments:
ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis , does it affect your memory at all?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory?
WITNESS: I forget..
ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you forgot?
A lotta memory lost and foolish commentary.
And this one was just apropos also
ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?
WITNESS: No..
ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law.
And dare we say ‘trying to be a regulator’.
Lots of regulators and others have their brains in a jar !
David February 15, 2015 at 3:47 PM #
Clico Barbados Holdings served a purpose in Duprey’s universal plan. Connect the dots. Parris was rewarded for his loyalty to Duprey.
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now sir can that be presented as evedience
now that what is called scraping the bottom of the barrell..
@Hants February 15, 2015 at 4:42 …
Great link there…a little nostalgia and voila. High crimes and misdemeanors continued.
The final sentence (I did not know that) in the first piece was informative and chilling alike . I suspect though that Leroy Parris and his confederates are the ones to be wary of such final justice.
“Nonetheless, this was the first time that a foreign country had successfully sued a US company for bribery and made a recovery. This was a great case, a great experience but with a very bad ending, the loss of a friend.
On June 20, 1995, Selwyn [Richardson, former AG] was murdered in his driveway at his home in Trinidad. ..”
This whole sordid affair need a through investigation, and where the evidence exist to warrant charges Parris should be charged, and if found guilty by the courts the wealth acquiredby virtue of being in controller, should be liquidated and the proceeds returned to the company.
Freindel Stuart’s New Life comoany is only an attemot to cover up the nastiness that gent on there.
@DeeWord
Now that the focus has shifted to Leroy Parris and his financial relationships with CLICO, Canadian banks and a willingness by former comrades to bring Mara into the frame a lot more will be revealed soon.
[…] By David […]
Leroy Parris should be in jail, complaining about hardship, what about the people that can’t even get their pension, he should be ashamed. Look at how he is bringing his dead lawyer’s into the whole con drum, she should do some jail time too. Freeze her assets as well, then we in Barbados will be seeing some semblance of justice done.
Dee Word;
It gets even murkier.
The Nation Newspaper article “HARDSHIP” says
“In his (Parris) affidavit, he lists three separate accounts at the Bank of Nova Scotia with cash totalling over $7 million and a deposit of $5 MILLION with the CENTRAL BANK OF BARBADOS”
If the affidavit reflects the truth, can ordinary citizens in their private capacity place deposits on the Central Bank? What is the process and who qualifies to be able to do this? Would such a transaction have to be okayed or ordered by someone outranking the GoCB?
Wasn’t there some discussion on BU (around the time that Parris was reportedly asked to withdraw $8 million from FCIB) about the Central Bank Governor being asked to use his good offices to assist in finding a home for those monies?
Another question. Where has that $8 million gone to? The newspaper article doesn’t mention it as part of Paris’ assets. Is it being hidden in a washing machine somewhere? What will become of the washing machine and its owners as this matter unravels?
David or Artaxerxes should be able to find the relevant articles that could connect the dots.
I think you’ve already hinted at the likely repercussions to Barbados of other aspects of these revelations. This one could be inadvertent dynamite thrown by a hapless Parris and his lawyers, if it is true.
In the meantime Parris, through his affidavit, has clearly sent a coded message to a number of individuals that if they did covert business with him they can expect it to be exposed. Will this protect him?
Seems to me that Pandora’s box has been opened. Who will close it? or can it be closed now?
Mara seems to be in the crosshairs. Who’s next?
It boggles the mind!
@Are-we-there-yet
See latest blog.
On 15 February 2015 at 23:25, Barbados Underground wrote:
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David; Thanks for your 7:26 pm post. I was out for most of the day and didn’t see that blog until just now. So I presume it was debentures that he bought to that value and the Nation reporter made an error in terming it a deposit. That makes sense.
David; is it possible to get and post the full affidavit on BU?
@Are-we-there-yet
Our legal sources has dried up in recent weeks. You are free to speculate as to the why.
Oh dear, dear, dear Leroy my boy.
If you cant meet your living expenses, you can try dying, this way, all of your troubles come to an abrupt and complete halt never to bother you again.
If you don’t want to do that, try giving up your wealth, or, the part that seems to be in dispute. That portion which you may not have really worked hard for like the people who worked hard for theirs and now cant meet their living expenses of other obligations now that they are looking for their pensions!
@ Sixth Sense
You, and others like you, may be inclined to send the confidential information in your possession to BU.
YOU CAN BE ASSURED that BU doesn’t share your names with anyone
For added protection use the anonymous online email service at http://www.sharpmail.co.uk/ to send your email to BU
Once it checks out, nd it has no viruses, it is posted
@ David February 15, 2015 at 7:00 AM …Interesting that Parris has pointed to Mara Thompson … where the Court should seek answers.” And@Dee Word ” “However, the fact that they are essentially throwing Mara and DT & Assoc. under the juggernaut that is rolling down this legal highway is amazing to this outsider.”
It is not amazing to me because I have not forgotten what I learned in elementary school “THERE IS NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES”.
@Caswell Franklyn February 15, 2015 at 10:06 AM “when I first came into contact with Parris he was a salesman at Da Costa & Musson and I always felt that his good looks were an asset.”
But Caswell Parris is not good looking. Whenever I look at him I always think of a half foolish body, but I am not sure why.
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“Another question. Where has that $8 million gone to? The newspaper article doesn’t mention it as part of Paris’ assets. Is it being hidden in a washing machine somewhere? What will become of the washing machine and its owners as this matter unravels?
David or Artaxerxes should be able to find the relevant articles that could connect the dots.
I think you’ve already hinted at the likely repercussions to Barbados of other aspects of these revelations. This one could be inadvertent dynamite thrown by a hapless Parris and his lawyers, if it is true.”
Someone told me that the authorities should be checking the laundromat being run by Peter Harris of CGI….lol
I am even hearing sums like 67 million dollars being bandied about, no wonder Mia Mottley is calling for bank accounts to be investigated by the DPP…..hmmmm
Although they are all friends, I am certain she does not want her name being called in this pile of doo doo…lol
@ Well Well
Smart people (launderers) usually “launder” the proceeds of ill gotten activities through “below-the-radar” activities and institutions.
An insurance company, a medical centre, a federal betting centre, a chain of supermarkets even something as innocuous as a chain of restaurants all of which are concentrated in one island may be the “vehicles” used for these activities.
The thing is that “so called Financial Intelligence Units and Entities responsible for monitoring Money Laundering a la Bulbados, neither have the skills sets, nor the monitoring mechanisms, to gainsay that “my 13 restaurants are in fact generating all this money”
As a business with sales to “unknown/untraceable” clients, it is extremely hard to gainsay that “10,000 came into my 10 outlets and spent roughly $100 each or $10M a day”.
So if my actual intake in 3,000 people I can wash $7M for any criminal element or activity and the head of the FSC or FIU and his cohorts CANNOT say a ting (and we are not going into the conspiracy domain where the heads of the FSC and FIU may be related to the criminal and be on the “LoweDown”)
Premiums and lump sum investments at insurance companies are another gray area where alot of “indiscretions” occur daily with ghost insured persons and fake company health plans etc. ( Walter Blackman recently told de ole man of the ghost insured and the long past dead insurance holders – Thank you Mr. Blackman)
One of the many reasons why there is such fear about the CLICO report, and the fact that it will never surface, is not only because of the amounts of money fleeced from the insured parties but the methodologies used to conduct the levels of fraud and the collusionists.
Wunna going be mighty surprised who the thieves sorry cuntputer acting up, beneficiaries and transactionists, were and still are.
In fact, a lot of wunna would not know why the Royal Bank of Canada was stopped from having Western Union “transmit” US currency out of Bulbados last year August
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