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CIBC FirstCaribbean News Release
CIBC FirstCaribbean News Release(clarification)

The the national discussion of late has been about Canadian banks and C&W huffing FLOW. Soon it will be about the Solid Waste Tax as the year end deadline approaches. From one issue to the next, just like a rollercoaster.

BU is not surprised at the turn of of events. It is an open secret the Barbadian is a passive consumer. Why pick on banks when in every sector of the market the sellers and regulators tag team to pummel Barbadian consumers into submission.

When the global financial market collapsed in 2007/8, the government and regulator; the Central Bank of Barbados, referred to the banking sector as being resilient because of the heavy concentration of Canadian banks. Barbados benefited from the Canadian presence in the market we were told while other markets had to endure a volatile period of consolidation.

Again it is an open secret that Canadian interest make up more than 75% of the onshore and offshore banking system. Under the previous government we sold the Barbados National Bank (BNB), one of many local strategic assets handed to foreign interest for pieces of silver to pay for our conspicuous consumption habit.   We cannot have our cake and eat it too. Barbados needs the foreign commercial banks now more than ever until our inept leadership come up with a medium term plan to wean our dependence. And until Barbadians see the value in supporting our own.

One of the economic pillars of the Barbados economy is international business. The offshore sector is heavily concentrated in Canadian assets. One of the reasons banks expand overseas is to serve the foreign operations of domestic companies. A good example is First Citizens Bank and Republic Bank and the proliferation of Trinidad business acquisitions in Barbados in the last decade. If the regulators struggle to regulate less influential entities in Barbados does anyone believe they have a ghost of a chance with the all powerful Canadian banks?

Barbados best chance to protect citizens was to maintain a significant interest in a commercial entity to intervene with financial products and services flavoured in the national interest. All of the banks, like any commercial business, in Barbados have ONE goal, to create value for shareholders. With BNB gone the best bet is to allow credit unions to compete on a level playing field. Not by establishing a credit union bank but by amending the regulation to permit similar services like chequeing accounts for example.

Barbadians must continue to shout their displeasure at what they see as bad practices by commercial banks. However we should take the time to examine what we need to do more effectively in order to flex our consumer muscle. We are too reactive  and easily manipulated by the issues of the day. The fact that Barbadians have reacted to CIBC’s client mandate notification directed to customers whose accounts were opened PRIOR to 2007 is instructive. What is says is that customers of the bank who have signed on since 2007 have agreed to the terms and conditions now incensing the local public.  And this is the point!

The fact that Horace Cobham, a former CIBC senior banker has come out to wax lyrically on the matter should be dismissed as political opportunistic poppycock. The fact that Senator Tony Marshall, retired Barclays banker, former talk show host, former chairman of the NIS under whose tenure a significant share of our NIS holdings in BL&P shares was sold for pieces of silver can also be dismissed. Is it not interesting we have to listen to such persons when they retire or are fired?

As consumers we have to power.


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73 responses to “CIBC FirstCaribbean Communication Sets Off Public Backlash”


  1. They used to be a good bank, but they have become increasingly annoying.

    A couple of years ago a relative was getting married overseas and I wanted to send $400 BDS as a wedding present. The number of steps in the process at First Caribbean or CIBC or whatever they were called in 2007 was so burdensome and annoying that I told the clerk not to bother. I went next door and did the transaction with Scotia Bank is just a few minutes. I have also been banking with Scotia Bank for more than 20 years and they do not treat me like a stranger every time I walk into my regular branch. I don’t like anybody or any institution that I have know longer that my parents, my spouse or my children to treat me like I am some stringer, like I am a drug trafficker or terrorist or something.

    Yet the bank knows where I live. They wrote my mortgage. I have not missed a payment. I have one of their stupid customer cards. I have my national ID card, and my driver’s license. I have only ever lived a 2 addresses in Barbados, including the address where I have lived for more that 25 years and for which CIBC wrote the mortgage. I’ve always made my payments in full and on time. So what is the bank’s problem with me.

    What is the point on encouraging bankers to “know your customer” then to treat customers that have done business with you for almost 50 years as though they are still a stranger.

    I remember very well that Ms. White opened my first CIBC account when the branch was located in Speightstown on the sea side opposite the oldest building in Speightstown. But my bank still treats me like a stranger every time I walk in the door.

    I wonder how they would treat a Bulgarian stranger who walks in the door.

    If banks spend so much time vetting their decades old customers, it is no wonder they have no time to do targeted vetting and there is no wonder the fraudsters, local and international take the banks for a ride.


  2. I don’t know if anybody has told Mark St.. Hill, Managing Director, Wealth, Business & International Banking, but in the Bajan community your bank is know as Worst Caribbean. I think that you Mark need to tell the Toronto headquarters that.

    just as somebody needs to tell the British owners of LIME that their company is know as Cable & Wufless.

    I doubt that anybody ever tells the big shot boys the truth, because you know how we Bajans are, as always very, very, very hesitant to offend.


  3. First Caribbean in Bridgetown is for the dogs. I sent a money order purchased on my bank TD Canada Trust to a friend in Bim. My bank told me that they liaise with First Caribbean. My friend said that was her bank as well. Well, the brass bowls at the bank told her it was a cheque and they could not release the funds until it cleared in Canada. For six weeks those bastards held my money without paying interest.

    I have an account there, but I have received no letter, maybe it is Bim, I will move my three dollars when I come down in January.


  4. @Pat November 16, 2014 at 5:32 PM “First Caribbean is for the dogs.. they could not release the funds until it cleared in Canada. For six weeks those bastards held my money without paying interest.”

    Did the same to me Pat when some relatives sent money to pay their land tax. First Caribbean claims it takes 6 weeks to clear money orders (NOTE a money order purchased from a centuries old bank, not a personal check from an individual)

    I would like to know how many millions of dollars First Caribbean holds this way, and how much interest they are earning.

    Please note that even Inland Revenue/BRA can clear a personal check in 2 working days, that is in 16 hours.


  5. We know that First Carribean is LYING when they claim it take 6 weeks to clear a money order.


  6. @Pacha

    The credit unions currently deposit members funds in the banks. The logical thought by you and others is if there is a credit union owned bank the credit unions will redirect those deposits?


  7. http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20141116/lead/lead1.html

    Denying Daphne – 99-year-old woman waits 40 years to collect $1m from Government for land sold to the State


  8. @ David

    Yes, but that is only the first step. The second step is much more important.

    The bank can then used the fractional reserve system to create up to 10 times those same deposits. Not directly on the account of individual members but for the bank to on-lend.

    Banks are the main creators of money. In layman terms banks have a license to print money.


  9. ‘Denying Daphne – 99-year-old woman waits 40 years to collect $1m from Government for land sold to the State”

    I hope the Jamaican government has taken into consideration inflation. A million jamaican dollars 40 years ago would be worth $100 million or thereabouts today.


  10. CIBC FirstCaribbean is in the news again at the end of a Court judgement that took 30 years!

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/59358/usd6m-award


  11. @David I hope this discussion stays “live”.

    I have not had any problems with Banks in Canada. They are well managed and regulated.
    However the one thing that surprised me is some “charges” are discretionary. For example my bank waves the fee when I purchase money orders.

    Given the level of trade between Canada and the Caribbean for over 50 years and the dominance of Canadian banks it is surprising that they are no longer “friendly”.


  12. “Banks are not doing you a “favour”, They are businesses that exist for the primary purpose of making profits for their OWNERS AND SHAREHOLDERS”\

    Yes , somewhere along the line we have been conditioned to believe that Banks do us favour while on the contrary it is the clients who are doing the Banks a favour. Without the money of the clients, Banks would cease to exist and or/profitably. Doing business with or in banks has become more and more dehumanising to the average customer in recent times that it makes me wonder why the average person continue to put their money in banks.


  13. @ balance
    You must know better than that….
    The damn banks are doing poor people a favour and you know it….

    What the hell does a Canadian /Trickidadian owned bank which is located here to facilitate various tax benefits and to facilitate the multi-million dollar needs of its CANADIAN/TRICKIDADIAN clients need some Native’s $2000 for?
    …to say they have nuff customers?

    These lotta poor people coming in and out the people’s place withdrawing $10 here and depositing $8 there only incur expenses by increasing the need for cashiers, clerical staff, security and floor space.
    Why the hell do you think they only put out enough cashiers to keep the line inside the bank…? Why do you think they penalize small deposits?

    ….the damn people are asking us nicely to PLEASE GO AWAY….

    If we had any DAMN PRIDE we would have heard them long ago…
    brass bowl mendicants!!


  14. Off Topic: TOKYO (AP) – Japan’s economy unexpectedly slipped back into recession as housing and business investment dropped following a sales tax hike, hobbling its ability to help drive the global recovery. – See more at: http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/59423/japan-slides-recession#sthash.lZXoEy02.dpuf
    Would someone please draw this to the attention of the MoF.


  15. Interesting Work Permit ad in todays Nation placed by Spinal Correction Centre Inc for a Medical Administrative Assistant.


  16. @Hants
    All Canadian banks waive the fee for money orders if you are 60 and over.


  17. @Pat,

    I was been doing this long before I was 60 years old.


  18. oops . I was doing this.

  19. John Hanson 1781-1782 Avatar
    John Hanson 1781-1782

    REMOVE YOU FUNDS FROM THIS BANK , THEY ARE WELL KNOW CROOKS WITH CLICO AND SIR HAM AND SIR COW , LAUNDERING PIMPS


  20. Now we are beginning to understand why at this time First Caribbean Bank is flexing its muscle like a medi-cai. The government is now indebted to them to the tune of $25 million, half of the initiation fee to join the Latin American Bank.


  21. I thought it was First Citizens not CIBCFCIB


  22. @Hants
    You are right ,First Citizens it is.

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