The Barbados government has established an Ebola isolation centre on an adjacent compound to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital overlooking two popular schools. This week we learned about health care workers who have become infected with Ebola after treating Ebola patients and the reason given by the … National Nurses United, the largest registered nurse union, surveys of their membership indicate that most nurses feel hospital administrations have not communicated adequately with staff about Ebola response plans – Ebola Protocol Breach Raises Questions About Where to Treat Patients
The latest development is important because if health workers like those in Jamaica threaten not to treat Ebola patients, we have a problem. The following two comments by BU family members are important to the Ebola conversation.
Two Comments by are-we-there-yet extracted from the EBOLA Virus Enters the White Man’s World #2 blog
Miller; You’ve brought up just one good point in your post above. That is “the issue of the need for people dealing with the Ebola virus to be outfitted in spacesuits as if the infection has been brought in by aliens from another world?”
Yes! It would appear to be absolutely necessary that caregivers at all phases of the development of the disease in a potential ebola stricken patient must be outfitted in adequate fool proof Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) and that they be totally trained in how to put on, take off and use that equipment. Failure to secure PPE’s of the absolutely highest standards and to use them properly appears to be an absolute death sentence.
The case histories of the persons who have contracted ebola all suggest that the disease is very infective and that absolutely strictly observed guidelines must be followed and enforced in robing, using and disrobing from those PPEs. Two of the cases of spread outside Africa so far appear to have been due to improper disrobing from the PPE’s.
If, heaven forfend, the disease gets into Barbados we will have a number of challenges re. the use of PPEs. One challenge will be getting workers to use the PPE’s in our sweltering heat. I expect that even if light weight PPE’s are used there might be a trade off between the procurement of heavy weight effective suits and lightweight (also claimed and even proven to be effective) suits that are more likely to be used sensibly by the caregivers.
Spain and the USA would not have had any such problem.
Back in Liberia, 10 of the people who assisted in getting the sick pregnant woman to the hospital there with Duncan have already died and it is likely that that is not the end of spread from that source of the virus. The video of the enclave that Duncan lived in suggests that those people in the compound wear no protective clothing whatever and that the Government workers are doing their best (also without wearing your spacesuits) to identify all contacts and move them out to quarantine areas. The conditions do not appear the best for containment of further spread.
The short history of the spread of this outbreak, its ability to infect workers in the US and Spain who are fully protected by PPE’s and its galloping spread in the infected countries in West Africa suggests to me, FWLIT, that the authorities have got it a bit wrong re. the method of spread and the infectivity of the virus. If they continue to publish the information that they are currently providing many more will die.
In the meantime, I think tightening up on the protocols for use of the PPE’s and allowing for the possibility of its spread through the air and by inactive carriers such as mammalian pets who might inadvertently transmit infective material from one human host to another, could reduce the spread potential and thereby limit the movement of the disease from where it currently has taken hold.
Note that there is no outbreak in the US or Spain. It has not reached that stage yet and we should all pray that the authorities there can contain it.
Why do you think Obama is sending so many troops into harms way. He and his advisors realises that they have no choice. I hope he is successful.
#2 comment
There are some very interesting questions raised by today’s developments in the Ebola story. viz; One or more caregivers of Ebola infected patients have contracted the Disease in the USA and Spain. There is possibly another carrier of the disease from Liberia to another part of the USA. None of the persons closest to Duncan and who were in unprotected close contact with him when he first started showing symptoms have yet shown any signs or symptoms of the disease while 2 presumably well protected professionals have come down with the disease. The Health workers around the US have been protesting that they have not been advised of the protocols which CDC says that hospitals are operating under while being blamed for not strictly adhering to those protocols. The system in the US and Europe seems rather chaotic at this time.
The questions are?
Are the US health services or indeed any country’s health services really ready for the complicated task of containing and controlling this outbreak?
Are the Health workers who might come in contact with carriers of the disease being told the full story of the epidemiology of this strain of the virus?
What does this portend for Caribbean health services in general and Barbados in particular?
Why should the virus either take longer to develop or doesn’t develop at all in unprotected black persons who were in intimate contact with Duncan at an eminently infective stage of his illness while some professional well protected caregivers and presumably white have contracted it? Is there a genetic difference? Could wearing the PPE’s be actually providing a better chance for the the virus to infect persons than if they were not worn at all? Should there be some trials done on identifying the best wear for eliminating transmission of the virus?
Was there a distinct difference in the care in the US of Duncan as compared with that of the others who had contracted the virus and been treated using experimental medicines. If there is a difference could that explain to some reasonable extent why Duncan died and the others have survived?
Should Barbados and the Caribbean seek to have some of its IT professionals in collaboration with our health professionals, work out and develop a total epidemiological package for Ebola that would allow us to manage Ebola better when it gets here?
Comment by Sargeant extracted from the EBOLA Virus Enters the White Man’s World #2 blog
@David
What is happening with these health workers contracting Ebola? A worker who nursed Duncan affected
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They are overlooking basic precautions, wearing the Hazmat suit is not enough, you have to be careful when removing it also, the exterior has to be disinfected prior to removal less any of the virus is present on it. Like going to a public washroom and washing your hands but opening the door with your bare hands which is a no-no. One should always try to avoid public washrooms but if you must go grab a paper towel to hold onto that door handle on your way out.
173 responses to “ebola, EBOLA”
Universal Precaution is a proven line of defense against many of the contagious diseases. But the fundamental issue with Ebola, in comparison to AIDS, HIV, hepaitis C and MRAS, is the potential level of exposure Ebola subjects the healthcare professional to. Diarrhea and vomit are some of the potential risks a healthcare professional faces when treating a patient with Ebola, unlike AIDS and HIV which are transmitted through blood and other bodily liquids but in a limited volume.
@ GP
Thanks.
BREAKING NEWS: Anonymous Doctor Releases Treatment for the Ebola Virus
The treatment for Ebola, along with accompanying MOA (Method Of Action) has been sent to this web site.
Jim Stone, August 1, 2014
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This is a lengthy article, DO NOT SURFACE READ. The actual treatment for ebola which will virtually eliminate fatalities, as revealed by a doctor who has worked with ebola, is below.
Consider this: The elite would never release a plague without an easy cure, and along with this ebola outbreak an American biowarfare firm has been working in Sierra Leon for the last five years. Google that. Sierra Leon has actually identified them as the perpetrators of this outbreak and kicked them out of the country. There is absolutely no doubt this outbreak was intentionally caused by the U.S. war department.
And if it is intentional, a cure is known. There would simply be no other way to do business.
Here is the treatment, complete with MOA. This is a treatment and not a cure, your immune system wipes out the virus, and the treatment gives your immune system time to do it.
Here is whatEbola does that is fatal: It causes the complete removal of all vitamin C from the body. No one actually knows what mechanism is involved in doing this, other than a malfunction that is not permanently destructive to whatever is triggered to remove all vitamin C. All the researchers know is that vitamin C drops to zero and all the symptoms of ebola are consistent with a complete loss of vitamin C.
How do I know this? A doctor who has remained anonymous and has worked with ebola victims has discovered this and sent it to this web site, at last check this cannot be googled which confirms this doctor did not just copy paste, SO POST IT EVERYWHERE; GET THIS OUT THERE, THE TREATMENT FOR EBOLA WHICH WILL PREVENT DEATH IS KNOWN AND THIS IS AN EMERGENCY REQUEST FOR MY READERS TO SPREAD THIS INFO AND STOP THIS EBOLA ATTACK IN ITS TRACKS.
From an anonymous doctor:
Summary:
“The very first symptoms of ebola are exactly the same as scurvy, which is caused by inadequate vitamin C. Though scurvy is seldom fatal as a primary condition, scurvy also represents only a partial deficiency of vitamin C, the body still has a LOT of vitamin C compared to zero, which ebola causes. Absent ANY vitamin C, blood vessels become very weak and start to lose blood, and platelets become ineffective and unable to trigger clots. So death by ebola is caused by massive internal bleeding and loss of blood, which can be stopped simply by taking enormous doses of vitamin C until the immune system succeeds in killing off the virus.”
Begin text:
Ebola is probably the best known of a class of viruses known as hemorrhagic fever viruses. In fact, Ebola virus was initially recognized in 1976. Other less known but related viral syndromes include yellow fever, dengue hemorrhagic fever, Rift Valley fever, Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever, Kyasanur Forest disease, Omsk hemorrhagic fever, hemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome, Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome, Venezuelan hemorrhagic fever, Brazilian hemorrhagic fever, Argentine hemorrhagic fever, Bolivian hemorrhagic fever, and Lassa fever. The Ebola virus infection, also known as African hemorrhagic fever, has the distinction of having the highest case-fatality rate of the viral infections noted above, ranging from 53% to 88%.
These viral hemorrhagic fever syndromes share certain clinical features. The Cecil Textbook of Medicine notes that these diseases are characterized by capillary fragility, which translates to easy bleeding, that can frequently lead to severe shock and death. These diseases also tend to consume and/or destroy the platelets, which play an integral role in blood clotting. The clinical presentation of these viral diseases is similar to scurvy, which is also characterized by capillary fragility and a tendency to bleed easily. Characteristic skin lesions develop, which are actually multiple tiny areas of bleeding into the skin that surround the hair follicles. some cases even include bleeding into already healed scars.
In the classic form of scurvy that evolves very slowly from the gradual depletion of vitamin C body stores, the immune system will be sufficiently compromised for infection to claim the patient’s life before the extensive hemorrhage that occurs after all vitamin C stores have been completely exhausted. Ebola virus and the other viral hemorrhagic fevers are much more likely to cause hemorrhaging before any other fatal infection has a chance to become established. This is because the virus so rapidly and totally metabolizes and consumes all available vitamin C in the bodies of the victims that an advanced stage of scurvy is literally produced after only a few days of the disease.
The scurvy is so complete that the blood vessels generally cannot keep from hemorrhaging long enough to allow an infective complication to develop. Also, the viral hemorrhagic fevers typically only take hold and reach epidemic proportions in those populations that would already be expected to have low body stores of vitamin C, such as is found in many of the severely malnourished Africans. In such individuals, an infecting hemorrhagic virus will often wipe out any remaining vitamin C stores before the immune systems can get the upper hand and initiate recovery. When the vitamin C stores are rapidly depleted by large infecting doses of an aggressive virus, the immune system gets similarly depleted and compromised. However, this point is largely academic after hemorrhaging throughout the body has begun.
To date, no viral infection has been demonstrated to be resistant to the proper dosing of vitamin C as classically demonstrated by Klenner. However, not all viruses have been treated with Klenner-sized vitamin C doses, or at least the results have not been published. Ebola viral infection and the other acute viral hemorrhagic fevers appear to be diseases that fall into this category. Because of the seemingly exceptional ability of these viruses to rapidly deplete vitamin C stores, even larger doses of vitamin C would likely be required in order to effectively reverse and eventually cure infections caused by these viruses.
Cathcart (1981), who introduced the concept of bowel tolerance to vitamin C discussed earlier, hypothesized that Ebola and the other acute viral hemorrhagic fevers may well require 500,000 mg of vitamin C daily to reach bowel tolerance! Whether this estimate is accurate, it seems clear as evidenced by the scurvy-like clinical manifestations of these infections that vitamin C dosing must be vigorous and given in extremely high doses. If the disease seems to be winning, then even more vitamin C should be given until symptoms begin to lessen. Obviously, these are viral diseases that would absolutely require high doses of vitamin C intravenously as the initial therapy. The oral administration should begin simultaneously, but the intravenous route should not be abandoned until the clinical response is complete. Death occurs too quickly with the hemorrhagic fevers to be conservative when dosing the vitamin C. (from Vitamin C, Infectious Diseases, and Toxins:Curing the Incurable by Thomas E. Levy MD JD)
MY COMMENT: I may not be a doctor, but I am awful good with medical topics, and this rings 100 percent true, IT IS THE MOA which if combined with some of my medical knowledge, such as the fact that Broccoli is absolutely excellent for assisting the clotting of blood, that the active component of Noni (which is in pineapple juice) is strongly anti viral, and that cures such as colloidal silver, while good for bacterial infections does nothing for viruses, combine some real knowledge with what this doctor says and it is highly probable that Ebola can be shrugged off as a mild case of scurvy.
Beware the current Colloidal Silver psy op, the actual cure for Ebola has been given to this web site.
Colloidal silver is great stuff, and I have made gallons from a 1 ounce silver bar myself. It works great for curing BACTERIAL infections and making water safe to drink without the nasty taste of iodine. HOWEVER, COLLOIDAL SILVER WILL DO NOTHING AGAINST VIRUSES, AND HUGE LIES ARE BEING HATCHED RIGHT NOW TO MISGUIDE PEOPLE TO A FALSE EBOLA CURE AND THE ALTERNATIVE MEDIA IS LAPPING IT UP
All curative agents have a mode of action, or MOA. And if anyone posting medical cures does not know the MOA, they have no idea what they are talking about. Colloidal silver has an MOA that has been known for many decades, yet recently Google has been rigged to bury it with only articles stating “the MOA is being explored and we think it is ___(then disinfo)” and there has to be a reason why this is being done right now, at this point in time with Ebola running amok.
Here is how colloidal silver actually works (its MOA), with first an example: Colloidal silver is to bacteria what cyanide is for all red blooded organisms. In red blooded organisms, cyanide binds with hemoglobin in place of oxygen, and makes it impossible for blood to carry oxygen. With enough cyanide, oxygen starvation via cyanide bonded hemoglobin causes death.
Colloidal silver does the same for bacteria, it binds with the oxygen carriers in bacteria permanently, causing bacteria to quickly die from oxygen starvation. This is the MOA for colloidal silver, which has been clearly known practically forever.
VIRUSES HAVE NO METABOLIC PROCESSES WHICH REQUIRE AN OXYGEN CARRIER, AND THEREFORE COLLOIDAL SILVER WILL BE COMPLETELY INEFFECTIVE AGAINST EBOLA, do not let the misinformed in the alternative media fool you by saying colloidal silver is effective against viruses in any way, colloidal silver is only useful for treating secondary bacterial infections that move in after a preceeding viral infection and in the case of ebola, there is not enough time for that to make a difference.
It is extremely important to note that a HUGE psy op is underway to fake colloidal silver as a cure for viruses and there HAS TO BE A REASON, DO NOT FALL FOR IT.
WW~Notes: FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This communication is being forwarded to you in the spirit of public service by Barbara Cabral, roma55@caribsurf.com, 436-6925.
In obtaining supplies of gloves and safety clothing to treat Ebola and other similar contagion, the hospital may be wise to have on hand a very large supply of Vitamin C to be administered INTRAVENOUSLY and ORALLY, since ordering might take too long to be practical. According to the above information, one patient would require up to 500,000 mg intravenously PER DAY plus orally administered amounts. As a side note, large intravenously administered doses of vitamin C are being used to treat CANCER successfully in Mexico and in the U.S.A.
Hants | October 13, 2014 at 7:33 PM |
Scenario. Guest at a hotel falls ill and is taken to a doctor or a clinic like Sandy Crest. Said guest has symptoms of Ebola. Has the MOH in Barbados created a protocol for dealing with this?
Especially with the long waiting times in ER at QEH, everyone in the room would have contracted Ebola if a patient was waiting there.
Thus, what should be set up, is a pre-screening clinic.
Obvious cases such as heart, accidents etc, should go straight to ER.
A prescreening clinic, appropriately equipped, should be on the QEH grounds, where patients with flu and flu like symptoms etc, (such as Ebola), go first for review, then sent to ER.
THAT is the point that the Ebola patient is separated and quarantined.
Or SHOULD be.
some body was telling me about that cure ,,i suggested they become the guinea pig and have the ebola vrus injected and then be given the collodial needless to say what was the response , look all these quacks and one armed bandits going to come out the closet with snake oil recipes and prescriptions, fear is a double edge sword it tricks as well as inhibits, the mind,
ac | October 13, 2014 at 8:44 PM |
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS PROPOSED BY R. Rowe ?
DO YOU KNOW OR UNDERSTAND HOW VITAMIN C WORKS?
R Rowe wrote:
In obtaining supplies of gloves and safety clothing to treat Ebola and other similar contagion, the hospital may be wise to have on hand a very large supply of Vitamin C to be administered INTRAVENOUSLY and ORALLY, since ordering might take too long to be practical. According to the above information, one patient would require up to 500,000 mg intravenously PER DAY plus orally administered amounts. As a side note, large intravenously administered doses of vitamin C are being used to treat CANCER successfully in Mexico and in the U.S.A.
Now see this:
Study helps confirm effectiveness of intravenous vitamin C in fighting cancer
A new open-access, collaborative study published in the Journal of Translational Medicine provides a credible, scientific rationale for the use of intravenous vitamin C as a treatment for cancer. Citing 246 references and supported by both oncologists and alternative medicine practitioners, the study highlights the scientific successes involving the use of intravenous vitamin C to improve immunity, help prevent cachexia, and boost overall quality of life for cancer patients.
“Currently there is a great divide in the way intravenous vitamin C is viewed,” said Thomas Ichim, a board member of the Riordan Clinic and first author of the publication. “On the one hand, you have alternative medicine practitioners who have been claiming very interesting results in practical treatment of cancer patients, but cannot explain any molecular rationale for its use or potential effects. On the other hand you have a great amount of scientific literature supporting possible relevance of this approach in cancer. This paper is a significant step towards closing the divide.”
SNIP
The Riordan Clinic-promoted study specifically differentiates between oral and intravenous vitamin C treatments, suggesting that only the latter has been proven effective in cancer treatment. Since the body is only capable of assimilating so much vitamin C at a time orally, it is difficult to consume enough in this manner to effectively treat serious diseases. However, previous studies confirm the effective of high-dose intravenous vitamin C in disease treatment. (my emphasis /GM)
A 1935 study out of Columbia University found that high-dose vitamin C helps to prevent polio, while another from the same year showed it helps treat diphtheria. A study published a few years later in the Journal of Southern Medicine and Surgery found that high-dose vitamin C can help cure viral pneumonia. And various other studies have confirmed that high-dose vitamin C is capable of treating kidney stones and heart disease as well
http://www.naturalnews.com/031972_vitamin_c_cancer.html
@ R Rowe. Maybe you could comment on the following pdf document which purports to show that coloidal silver is effective in neutralizing hemorrhagic fever viruses. The diagrams, charts and pictures therein don’t convey much to a layman and there is little written text by way of explanation. Note that this document purportedly comes from USAF medical research, but it is currently found on a web site that sells coloidal silver. Anyone else with a medical or bio-chemistry background can chime in as well:
Hants and GP;
Here’s another hypothetical for your comments;
A Bajan living in Madrid and working in a travel intensive support sector for the Health Industry there and who unknowingly was in contact with one of the caregivers for the patient who had contracted Ebola in West Africa, comes home on vacation. Almost Immediately on landing he is bitten by an Aedes aegypti mosquito and two days later he presents to a very popular medical facility, frequented by Royalty and British upper tier people, with a high fever, diarrhaea, back pains, stomach aches, etc. He is in the Facility’s waiting room and other facilities, eg Bathroom, for a couple hours .He tells the doctor he sees that he thinks he has chikingunya and the doctor agrees and sends him back home with some pain killers and advice to take vitamin C and plenty fluids.
Let us suppose that it was an Ebola infection and not Chikungunya.
Could the typical doctor here tell the difference between Chikungunya and Ebola symptoms?
Can an Ebola laboratory diagnostic test be done here? Could it be done in Trinidad?
How long would it take for Ebola test results to get back to us from wherever they will be done?
How effective would contact tracing be here?
Would our Health MInistry have the necessary high level relationships to get the Spanish authorities to help us identify possible contacts he might have had in Madrid?
When they eventually recognize that it is probably a case of Ebola would our quarantine facility for 4 people be able to handle the likely number of possible secondary cases emanating from the bajan suscept?
What are the chances against a case of this type wreaking havoc with our very way of life?
Are you there yet
There were 32 outbreaks of Ebola in Africa, from the 1970s to 2014, which resulted in thousands of deaths. So the one reason Ebola has gotten so much attention here in North America, was due in part to the two infected American healthcare professionals, who have recovered from this contagious virus..
Notice you hadn’t heard anything regarding Ebola prior to the American doctor and nurse infections?
GP what i do know is the CDC study and investigate these unknown virus and give recommendation to the medical and health fraternity on methods and guidelines for the production or manufacturing of cures or treatments after thorough scientific analysis and investigation. ac not one to entertain snake oil or panacea ,BTW it makes me question your creditability since you are easily accepting or swayed in the presentation of your comment or being felicitous in your response , and yes i known vitaminc is a persuasive and powerful nutrient, as to whether it can be a viable source for the cure or stabilizing the ebola virus i have not seen the proof,
St George’s Dragon | October 13, 2014 at 3:58 PM |
Where do the drains run to from the planned isolation unit?
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The Enmore complex, like most business places and homes in the Bridgetown environs , I do believe is hooked up to the Bridgetown Sewerage System.
here is an excerpt from an article about this drug/cure collidial and the WHO and US govt response
Both WHO and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have given their blessing to experimental therapies for Ebola, citing a lack of proven treatment options. But when it comes to using therapeutic silver, all bets are off, it seems.
Despite that fact I’m not fond on commenting on issues I have absolutely no knowledge of, this Ebola situation has raised a number of concerns for me. So far, this region has been fortunate not to have any cases of Ebola, and this puts us in a good position to learn from the mistakes made by those countries who have recorded cases and even deaths.
One of my concerns comes from an Associated Press news reports which stated a 26 year old nurse at the Texas Health Presbyterian apparently contracted Ebola after treating a patient who had the virus. This event has seemingly contradicted the assurances federal health officials gave indicating American hospitals are adequately equipped to treat and contain the disease. However, health officials are claiming there was a breach in protocol. There was also a report that a nurse in Spain contracted the virus under similar circumstances, which indicates Ebola is a highly contagious disease.
So far I have not heard from the Barbados Nurses’ Association relative to advocating for the requisite training of nurses to deal with any patient care eventuality in the event Ebola reaches this region. What is the MoH’s position as it relates to the training front-line doctors and nurses?
Has the Ministry of Health given Barbadians any precise details concerning what safety protocols are in place at the hospital, poly-clinics and both ports of entry and how extensive are they?
Patient confidentiality, containment of the disease and educating Barbadians about the disease to prevent panic amongst the populace, is another one of my concerns. Barbados has proven to be a reactive society, and in some cases our reactions can be a bit extreme, especially in issues of which we have no knowledge or where there is an element of fear. In my opinion, these are areas where the MoH should be proactive.
Regional and international travelers will also present some challenges for us at our ports of entry. Will immigrations officers be trained to make judgments calls after perusing a visitor’s passport and discover that person travelled to a country with an Ebola alert? Since there are some cases in America, how will officers deal with visitors coming from, for example, Dallas, Texas? Then we must consider passengers coming on cruise ships as well.
Will the MoH conduct enhanced Ebola screening to observe travelers entering Barbados for general overt signs of illness at the air and sea ports to help ensure the risk of the virus in Barbados is minimized?
Some may say my questions and observations may be a bit extreme, but in the case of Ebola, prevention seems to be much better than cure.
here is another excerpt from an article about the touted collidoal nano silver bullet cure or treatment for EBOLA
As for Nano Silver, this strikes is nothing more than the latest variant of a very old form of quackery, colloidal silver. The main difference is that Nano-Silver is…well, nano! The main claim is that because Nano-Silver contains silver particles measuring only 2 nm in diameter, which is about five times smaller than the average diameter of a colloidal silver particle, it’s much better at killing viruses because it allegedly has a higher concentration and has the “advantage of small particles from the standpoint of penetration into capillaries, cells, pathogens and ‘backwater’ body tissues. Though not readily calculable, mathematically, a knowledge of the body and its structure brings readily to mind the great advantage of particles a tenth the size of those of other products.” It’s all highly dubious, designed from perspective mainly to rename colloidal silver as “Nano-Silver,” you know, because “Nano” sounds so much cooler than “colloidal.” Again, there’s no compelling evidence that Nano-Silver can do what is claimed: Treat Ebola. Or anything else, at least when taken internally. Yes, it is true that silver can be used as an antibiotic, but that’s in topical silver-containing pastes and ointments, where the concentration of silver can be much higher. When silver is taken internally, its concentration that’s not toxic is too low to be an effective antibiotic. So selling Nano-Silver as a treatment for Ebola, as Rima Laiblow is doing, is pure quackery.
and the FDA are hot on these people heels to show the proof, the african people are already being exploited ,they do not need the other side of the white establishment whose sole purpose is to hood wink the govt into giving them taxpayers monies under the guise of nonprofit organizations for start up quackery programs and cure which would lead to dead end streets unless there is absolute proof the results would be beneficial .
Shutdown: A Single Ebola Patient Has Overwhelmed The System: Dallas Hospital Forced To Close Emergency Room
Despite numerous procedural missteps over the course of the last several weeks, the Centers for Disease control want the American public to believe they have everything under control.
But with a second case now being confirmed in Dallas, one can’t help but consider that these so-called ‘protocols’ set forth by the CDC are either inadequate, or they are being wholly mismanaged.
Where were the Hazmat suits for the police officers and clean-up crew that were first to arrive at Duncan’s Ebola-stricken apartment? Or what about the ambulance that carried numerous patients and personnel for 48 hours after Duncan was dropped off at the hospital before anyone realized it needed to be isolated? Or how about the quarantine procedures, which left Duncan’s extended relatives in an apartment with no established procedure for supplying the detainees with food? And why were others who were living in apartments adjacent to these, who had close proximity to Duncan’s ventilation systems, not moved? Moreover, why did the Obama administration wait almost two weeks before suggesting that we should be screening passengers arriving in the United States from flights originating in Africa?
These are just a handful of the inconsistencies which suggest, among other things, that the CDC was caught completely off guard and unprepared.
But if that’s not enough to convince you that we have a serious problem with emergency response protocols for pandemics and outbreaks, then perhaps the fact that a single Ebola patient in Dallas overwhelmed the system to such an extent that Texas Presbyterian had to shut down their emergency room to new patients.
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shutdown-a-single-ebola-patient-has-overwhelmed-the-system-dallas-hospital-forced-to-close-emergency-room_10132014
Yes Arterexes Agree prevention is much better than cure which makes me asked out loud why after forty or fifty years the QEH is still lagging in technology and the need to build a new facility was given a LOUD NO by the BLP yardfowls and the operatives do you not believe that when your govt was in power one of the goals of security should have been in the forefront and more so on a mission to draft and implement policies that would be efficient in securing the health and well being of country and people in times of national crisis ,instead of the country and leaders having to be seen like deers staring in the headlights looking for eleventh hour treatments and answers in dire health crisis,don;;t you think that after fourteen years in govt that security could have least been a major goal and an initiative propelling the BLP to do what;s in the best national interest of the Country, fast forward to present time and see what this country have to offer towards the nation;s health security under these circumstances, would you not agree the BLP failed miserably in this dept, after all as u said Prevention is better than cure,
Clinical trials of an experimental vaccine underway
http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/canada-s-ebola-vaccine-how-does-it-work-1.1959082
ac | October 13, 2014 at 10:52 PM |
“Yes Arterexes Agree prevention is much better than cure which makes me asked out loud why after forty or fifty years the QEH is still lagging in technology and the need to build a new facility was given a LOUD NO by the BLP yardfowls and the operatives……”
You seem to have an uncanny obsession with politicizing very issue, and as usual, in your haste to defend the DLP, you always get your facts WRONG.
I need to remind you that I’m neither a member or supporter of the BLP, and as I have told all you DLP yard-fowls….. the DLP forms the government and as a citizen and tax-payer, it is my constitutional right to criticize them and highlight any propaganda they spew.
As it relates to your inaccurate points, I refer BU to an article
entitled “Through the years…. The QEH saga” in the Friday November 4, 2011 edition of the Weekend Nation, which quoted then Minister of Health, Donville Inniss as saying:
“In 2009, Cabinet had discussions with the British firm Capita Norman & Dawbarn, WHICH WAS USED IN 2006 to investigate and report on the way forward for the QEH, with a view of exploring the option of a new general hospital on a greenfield site.”
NOTE: the DLP was going to use a study conducted by the BLP as their basis to build a new hospital, which meant the BLP had plans to build a new facility.
The article went on to state:
“In October 2007, the then Barbados Labour Party (BLP) Cabinet had decided to replace the 581-bed QEH with a 650-700-bed facility on the Enmore site, where medical facilities and doctors’ residence once stood.
The then Minister of Health Jerome Walcott said construction would take place over four years, but even after the new hospital was opened, the QEH would continue to offer medical services, including those for rehabilitation of patients. The new City hospital would be “the backbone of health care delivery in Barbados for the next 50 years”, Walcott said, noting that there was no plan to pass on the expenditure to Barbadians in the user fees.”
“In the lead-up to the January 2008 general election, the BLP made a new state-of-the-art QEH outfitted with the latest medical technology the centrepiece of its tertiary care health programme, according to its manifesto Only The Best For Barbados.
However, the then Opposition Democratic Labour Party (DLP), while acknowledging the serious deterioration of the physical plant at the QEH would only commit to a “Rescue The Queen Elizabeth Hospital Plan”, which it said would include: increasing the number of trained medical personnel, moving swiftly to effect change, including reduced waiting times at the Accident & Emergency (A&E) Department, constructing a new A&E wing and providing more beds and equipment, and expanding the Asthma Bay.
“The DLP believes there is no point in building a 21st century facility with 19th century attitudes,” said its 2008 manifesto Pathways To Progress.”
The facts indicate that “the need to build a new facility was given a LOUD NO” by Thompson [and the DLP], who said the way forward was to REFURBISH the hospital rather then build a new one.
off topic but….
http://www.wunderground.com/news/tropical-storm-hurricane-gonzalo-caribbean-puerto-rico-virgin-islands-travel-20141013
ac | October 13, 2014 at 10:52 PM |
It has become the norm for this DLP administration to procrastinate on important issues, while minister continue to contradict each other. Recently, MoE Jones said the government was going to issue bursaries to 3,000 potential UWI students, and the MoF revealed that Jones spoke out of place since the finance ministry said there were no funds available to undertake that venture. This scenario was only a preamble to deal with your point and to avail readers of contradiction exhibit by this administration as far back as 2008.
In August 2008, seven months after winning the 2008 general elections, then Minister of Health, Dr. David Estwick said that the new DLP administration was “going ahead with plans for a new hospital, without a doubt”. Estwick said “We have a 1959 plant in terms of its infrastructure,”……. “That cannot carry medicine in 2009.”
“The plan was for “a new purpose-built facility that would give us state-of-the-art health care for the next 30 or 40 years, with few or no problems. Our objective is now to work the financing options out so that we have the money available.”…”
“He said Government was selling its shares in the Insurance Corporation of Barbados (ICB) and the Barbados National Bank (BNB) to raise $200 million for the project and was looking to other sources for funds. But Cabinet, Estwick said, was to decide ‘very, very soon” on where the new hospital would be built.”…”
Estwick also revealed “Government was also looking at how best to utilize the old hospital structure – whether it would be converted into Government offices or used for geriatric care.”
BUT ABOUT TWO DAYS LATER , Prime Minister David Thompson WOULD SLAP DOWN ESTWICK’S GRAND PLANS, MAKING IT CLEAR THAT THERE WOULD BE NO NEW QEH; RATHER, THE PLANT WOULD BE EXPANDED AT ITS PRESENT SITE AT A COST OF $400 MILLION.
“Cabinet has agreed to the expansion of the QEH on its present site, estimated to cost over $400 million, and we have also begun to identify funding for this upgrade and expansion,” Thompson said.
A LOUD NO coming from whom?? Certainly not the BLP.
ac | October 13, 2014 at 10:52 PM |
David often states you are clueless to what happens in Barbados, and Bookworm said you are clueless, period. But in actuality your cluelessness is ad infinitum.
you still did not answer the question just a long dia -dribble of what should hav and was supposed to be,, never mind what others say( David ) , they just can;t help themselves,another way of forming innate words and spouting misinformation that suit their purposes . speaking of( clueless) for management and leadership quality david scores a big fat zero, given his mishandling in managing his blog and total lack of control,, the question as poised to you remains unanswered , maybe the clue is that the vision and foresight necessary to undertake such task ( a key) and fundamental element in good leadership was missing overall in the govt of that day,( BLP), BTW clue ,,fast forward the plan for building the hospital was again talked about in 2013 and as usual you always revert to issues older than creation to make a point and at that time ;the BLP yardfowls threw their hands in the air ruffled their feathers and declared that a band aid approach to the QEH was the best way forward, but just think that if the BLP govt who had the time money and resources to activate a plan of relevancy years ago how much better prepared our country would have been(now) in a national health crisis , it does not take a scientific analysis to figure that out, just sound commonsense ,forward thinking and good judgement,
ac | October 14, 2014 at 1:00 AM |
AC, you are correct, I cannot answer your question and “as usual I always revert to issues older than creation to make a point and at that time”.
Also, it’s the previous BLP administration’s fault that Barbados is not prepared for a national health crisis. So, if “country and leaders having to be seen like deers staring in the headlights looking for eleventh hour treatments and answers in dire health crisis”, blame the BLP.
@Artax
It is useful for readers if you use you analytical approach to focus on Ebola and leave the political banter for another blog. This is just too serious a topic to allow yourself to be led down the usual politicization of the topic.
Ebola: How To Protect Yourself From Virus
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millertheanunnaki | October 13, 2014 at 6:22 PM |
If the Ebola virus can only be transmitted by being in direct contact with the body fluids of the infected person why all the head-to-toe covering even on those only in the room of the suspected Ebola carrier? Wouldn’t having a ‘healthy’ suspicion of skepticism about the mutation ability of the virus to become airborne be something to neither sniff nor sneeze about?
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the virus remains active on any surface up to forty eight hours,,which is scary in the event unsuspecting people caught going about their daily rituals makes contact on a surface which a potential infected person might have been in contact before them
Evilest Thing
Money is the Root
Looking at World Commodities Map the Ebola Outbreak is in regions rich in Diamonds Gold Petroleum Oil in Africa
Ruby & Diamond
http://insider.foxnews.com/2014/10/13/doctor-explains-why-ebola-could-spread-through-air
The CDC maintains the Ebola virus can only be spread through contact with bodily fluids.
One doctor, however, told Gretchen Carlson today that it’s time to start preparing for the possibility that the virus could start spreading by air.
Dr. David Sanders, top Ebola virologist and Purdue University professor of biological science, explained that a very closely related virus is known to spread among animals via the air.
Sanders also pointed to the way in which the virus enters the body.
“Our own research shows that Ebola Zaire enters human lung cells from the airway side. So it has the inherent capacity to enter the lung from the airway. I’m not saying that there’s any evidence that the current spread is due to anything but bodily fluid contact, but we have to consider the possibility that it can enter through an airway route,” said Sanders, adding that the virus can “morph” or “mutate” as the outbreak continues in Africa.
The friends of the infected nurse are now expressing their concerns about the protective uniform their given to treat Ebola patients. And I am here saying to myself: we have healthcare professionals in African clad in plastic bags for uniforms and haven’t gotten Ebola as of yet. And this American nurse who treated Duncan has the lastest high-tech equipment and she caught it. I don’t know how often I have emphasized the importance of Universal Precaution.
@ Rick | October 14, 2014 at 7:46 AM |
Very good and informative link Rick. Thanks!
Makes one wonder if there isn’t some official cover-up to downplay the possibility of the virus mutating to acquire airborne transmission capability.
Maybe a read of Dan Brown’s most recent novel ‘Inferno” could give a bit of ‘burning insight into the ‘fictitious’ machinations of the CDC and its collusive propensity to be in bed with big Pharma and untrustworthy government officials.
An interesting titbit that has trickled into the public space about the contact list of the nurse who died after tending Duncan. Bear in mind this is one Ebola victim who has created this stress on the leading edge US health system.
Foreboding indeed!
How does an American nurse contract Ebola? With directions like these.
http://www.vox.com/2014/10/13/6968775/ebola-nurse-united-states-texas-directions-protocol-breach
Here’s what’s scary about the Dallas health-care worker infected with Ebola: she knew she was treating an Ebola patient.
That’s not supposed to happen. We’ve been told that Ebola can be stopped using modern medical protocols. An American health-care worker who is part of a team that knows it’s treating an Ebola patient is supposed to be able to protect herself. So what happened?
The simple answer is that the Ebola treatment protocols are complicated. It helps to look at this Centers for Disease Control and Prevention checklist. These are the instructions the federal agency gives caregivers for how to take off the protective gear that workers wear when treating patients with deadly diseases, like Ebola.
It is 21 items long. There are full sections on the gloves, and the gowns, and the face mask —each with multiple steps. Imagine trying to keep all this in mind while also trying to treat a patient:
Map: Where Ebola is likely to go next
http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/10/13/6959103/ebola-spread-international-epidemic-china-india-europe
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2792030/jeremy-hunt-warns-ebola-outbreak-deadly-worldwide-aids-epidemic-killed-30million-screening-starts-heathrow.html
Ebola screening at Heathrow airport blasted ‘a complete joke’ on first day as passengers arriving from Africa say checks are optional
First day of screening of travellers arriving at Heathrow from West Africa
But passengers say that they walked through unchecked or had to volunteer
Government said the screening is needed ‘to make our country safe’
Jeremy Hunt: ‘It’s a global health emergency possibly on scale of Aids’
Gatwick and Eurostar passengers will be screened later this week
Six months of Ebola screening planned in UK will cost £9million
Experts believe decision is a ‘political gesture’ and will fail to find Ebola
World Health Organisation said it threatens ‘very survival of societies’
the time is fast approaching that each and everyone start planning and preparing all necessary plans of action especially seeing the devastation to those in the health care and medical field who have used the necessary precautions of prevention only to contract. it seems as if this virus have been able to mutate and cultivate in any enviroment at rapid speed.this is just the begining of unchartered waters that the world has entered .take note that that with winter approaching birds who have lived on the “red zone might have already contracted the virus and would be carries to other countries during the migration period.
A critique of the protocol is that health care workers need to train on what is an awkward procedure regarding dress protection. In the same way pilots have to do refreshers in simulators on a regular basis.
AC: re. your 9:22 am post
Birds ….who have already contracted the virus? That sounds like the height of misinformation. That would be a gigantic mutation. No research exists so far to indicate that birds could be anything other than passive carriers afaik. The virus could not survive the first 2 days of the migratory process.
Very very unlikely!
Not likely to be true!
The fruit bat in Africa has been reported carry of Ebola. The West Nile Virus has been found in the bodies of dead birds here in North America. The literature out there tells us that some people can contract Ebola by coming into contact with bat feaces, when visiting caves. Or when their consumed the body of a dead animal that has been infected with Ebola virus.
Oh mama You got me
Living on the Frontline
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/13/ebola-nurses-describe-life-death-on-frontline-liberia-sierra-leone
Which is the bigger problem
(a) 4,000 Dead in Africa
(b) 1 or 2 Dead in USA
Easy Sqeeze
The biggest problem lies right here in the U.S. because we haven’t as yet figure out the best strategy to handle a potential nationwide outbreak of the Ebola virus.
The African continent on the other hand, has saw 32 outbreak of Ebola from the 1970s to this present outbreak in liberia. So the African people pretty much known the fear that is associated with the Ebola virus. The American people has just start to get use to it.
Dompey;
Bats are not Birds
Bats are Mammals
Ebola has only been found to infect Mammals
Birds are not Mammals
Yuh Overstand!
Min’ Jah lick yu wid diseases …
while the star that shine from the galaxies
and it shine on human faces
hear the cry of the Israelite voices
Jah we need your advices/help us out of the crisis
(But me no have no money to give them, so mi write)
Are we there yet
The KJV Bible notes somewhere in Genesis that Bats are birds. Why don’t you google it brother because I am usually correct with my information.
AWTY. what we(public)do not know or have not been told about this strain of the virus is problematic.therefore nothing should be ruled out ..case and point the unsolved mystery surrounding the nurse as to how she contracted the virus.
Are we there yet
And where did I claimed that bats were birds? All I simply did was to made a general statement regarding the literature out there with respect to the transmission of Ebola.
Dompey | October 14, 2014 at 12:56 PM |
Are we there yet
The KJV Bible notes somewhere in Genesis that Bats are birds. Why don’t you google it brother because I am usually correct with my information.
THIS IS A BIG STINKING LIE!
PLEASE CITE CHAPTER AND VERSE
Global Healthcare, Ebola is an example where boundaries and borders are a permeable membrane. A holistic view means that we are interested in engaging and developing the health and well being of the the whole world
problem : Ebola
solution : lies in curing Africa (not USA)