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Professor Emeritus Henry Fraser
Professor Emeritus Henry Fraser

The Queen Elizabeth Hospital (QEH) is in the news again. Professor Emeritus Henry Fraser made the announcement this Christmas week that the crisis at the QEH requires Minister of Health (MoH) John Boyce to meet with Minister Chris Sinckler as a matter of urgency. Of course this is the same MoH who boldly stated during the last budget debate that the deep cuts to the Ministry of Health budget would not compromise healthcare delivery.

Senator Irene Sandiford-Garner in response to the criticism offered the view that the QEH remains the best primary healthcare facility in the Caribbean. BU has no way to assess the veracity of Sandiford’s statement however one has to ask if Barbados should not hold the QEH to our high standard. Why should Barbadians retreat to accept benchmarking against healthcare systems in the region which have always looked to Barbados as the standard bearer?

It is instructive to remember that Fraser is an Independent Senator and Senator Sandiford-Garner is government appointed. The question to the BU family et al – who should we believe? Some issues CANNOT be about politics, the good health of a nation is a wealthy of a nation after all.


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122 responses to “Senator Henry Fraser: Healthcare Slide at the QEH”


  1. Sorry for the false post.


  2. I believe every word of Sen. Fraser. Irene Sandiford -Garner and the Minister of Health think that Bajans are fools. The hospital is in a mess. Senator Fraser is a professional. and not a political pimp. He has gained the respect of his medical colleagues over the years so they would tell him what is going on in the hospital..


  3. RE Senator Irene Sandiford-Garner in response to the criticism offered the view that the QEH remains the best primary healthcare facility in the Caribbean.

    CLEARLY THIS WOMAN IS A FIRST CLASS MORON WHO HAS NOT A CLUE WHAT A HOSPITAL OUGHT TO BE?

    CLEARLY SHE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT PRIMARY HEALTHCARE IS, OR WHERE THE STRENGTH OF OUR PRIMARY HEALTHCARE LIES.
    IT BOGGLES THE MIND THAT IN 2013 WE HAVE WOULD BE PARLIAMENT OR THE SENATE WHO WILL EXCUDE BOVINE EXCREMENT SO CONSISTENTLY IN SUCH HIGH CONCENTRATIONS.

    RE It is instructive to remember that Fraser is an Independent Senator and Senator Sandiford-Garner is government appointed.
    Rather It is instructive to remember that Fraser is a Barbados scholar, and a man who has excelled at his chosen profession, and has a good idea about which he speaks.

    It would behove this idiotic woman to just shut up, and listen and see if she can learn even a wee wee bit.

    A HOSPITAL IS/OUGHT TO BE A CENTER FOR TERTIARY CARE

    PROVISION HAS BEEN MADE IN BARBADOS SINCE 1985 THAT PRIMARY AND MUCH SECONDARY HEALTH CARE CAN BE DONE AT THE POLYCLINICS. SOME FOLK WHO CAN PAY GET SUCH CARE FROM THEIR GENERAL PRACTIONERS

    THE DAYS WHERE PEOPLE SHOULD BE RUSHING TO THE QEH FOR EVERY THING HAVE LONG GONE

    IT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED ON BU SINCE EARLY 2008 A REASONABLE ZONING SYSTEM WHERE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY HEALTH CARE OUGHT TO OCCUR IN BARBADOS

    MEASURES TO PERFECT SUCH A SYSTEM WAS ALSO PUBLISHED HERE ON BU IN EARLY 2008

    IT IS INSTRUCTIVE THAT MY SUGGESTIONS ARE BEING FOLLOWED VERY CAREFULLY IN ST LUCIA. I KNOW BECAUSE I SAW IT AT WORK AND WAS A BENEFICIARY THEREOF.

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  6. Here is the blog posted in 2008 which GP referred.

    What should Barbados Government Do About The St. John Polyclinic?

    Posted on 16/02/2008 by David | 49 Comments

    Map displays the current (or possible) available health facilities for the people of the North. These include St Joseph hospital- now allowed to be destroyed by the BLP. The Geriatric Hospital at River Bay area – to be upgraded to … Continue reading →


  7. Henry Fraser pointed out recently on Barbados Today that the QEH is only 47 years old, and that its outside walls are strong. He pointed out also that there are in the developed world many famous hospitals that are well over 100 years old.

    Before the Dems lost power in 1994, they had refurbished and made the former St Joseph hospital into a functioning hospital The BLP then closed it.

    bOTH the St Joseph hospital AND QEH NEEDS TO BE REFURBISHED AS A SPECIALTY HOSPITAL

    IN ADDITION AT SOME OF THE SITES OF THE POLYCLNICS THERE IS LAND AREA FOR EXPANSION BY ADDING ON WARDS FOR OTHER SPECIALTY HOSPITALS

    AT A TIME WHEN THINGS ARE HARD IT BOGGLES THE MIND THAT 15 MILLION IS BEING SPENT ON A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR AN UNECESSARY BIG FANCY HOSPITAL…………….IN THE SAME WAY THAT MUCH FOREIGN EXCHANGE WAS WASTED ON THE KAISER FOUNDATION STUDY PRIOR TO THE START OF THE PROMISED NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE.

    PLEASE KINDLY NOTE THAT I DID NOT RECEIVE ONE CENT FOR MY PROPOSALS THAT USHERED RUNNING THE NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE.FROM A SYSTEM OF POLYCLINICS.
    WE JUST NEED TO LEARN TO K.I. S. S –KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!


  8. Listening to the MOH when he announced that the government will be begging for 15 million to do the feasibility study, he went on to give some insight. He stated that Barbados has come of age and user fees will be levied to support services on offer.


  9. I have absolutely no reason to doubt Professor Fraser when he complained about the lack of supplies at QEH. In May this year a very dear friend of mine was terminally ill at QEH and we had to carry for him something as basic as toilet paper.

    However, when he rejected the idea of building a new hospital and suggested that the QEH be upgraded, he was way out of his depth. During the last days of the Arthur administration, government contracted the services of an international consulting firm to do a study on the QEH to determine the feasibility of refurbishment, partial refurbishment or the construction of a new hospital. The consultants determined that the hospital was in such poor shape that the cost to refurbish the existing structure would be almost as much as that to build a new one.

    The DLP came to office and found plans in place for a new hospital and decided follow through with those plans. My concern however is: Why would the Minister of Health be proposing to do a study for $15 million when the work has already been completed by the BLP for $5 million?


  10. HOW CAN WE PAY 15 MILLION ON A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR A NEW HOSPITAL, WHEN WE CANT BUY TOILET PAPER AND NECESSARY DRUGS FOR THE QEH?

    IS JOHN BOYCE AND THE DLP DRUNK OR DEMENTED?


  11. RE During the last days of the Arthur administration, government contracted the services of an international consulting firm to do a study on the QEH to determine the feasibility of refurbishment, partial refurbishment or the construction of a new hospital. The consultants determined that the hospital was in such poor shape that the cost to refurbish the existing structure would be almost as much as that to build a new one.
    THE BLP ALSO PAID THE KAISER FOUNDATION LOTS OF MONEY TO COME TO BARBADOS AND SUBMIT A REPORT IN WHICH THEY GATHERED AND USED THE INFORMATION OF LOCAL PERSONEL ON THE GROUND

    WE LOVE THE FALLACY OF THE UNEXCLUDED MIDDLE

    WE THINK QEH OR A NEW HOSPITAL

    ANOTHER IDEA IS A SERIES OF SMALLER HOSPITALS

    BUT WE LOVE TO ERECT LARGE EDIFICES


  12. Georgie Porgie

    They might not be drunk or demented, just broke.

    >


  13. The consultants determined that the hospital was in such poor shape that the cost to refurbish the existing structure would be almost as much as that to build a new one.

    If the statement above by Caswell is correct (and I have no reason to doubt him) perhaps the Gov’t should be transparent and announce that it is better to mothball the current Hospital than to retrofit it at significant costs.

    Question, what is it about Bim that we can’t seem to build structures that last for an extended period? There seems to be an absence of long term planning in the execution of these projects first the Hilton was built and demolished and now the building housing the QEH would not pass the building code in any developed city in the world -so much for the Senator stating that it is the best primary facility for health care in the Caribbean- I wouldn’t like to see the others.

    One last point, running a hospital is a very expensive proposition and Hospitals up here can supplement their income by charging exorbitant fees for parking etc. They also have benefactors who are not shy about donating millions of dollars to them in exchange for “naming” rights for some facility and one hospital has an annual lottery with tickets @$100.00 each which is oversubscribed each year. The only benefactor the QEH has is the Gov’t and by extension your tax dollars so when Gov’t coffers are empty the QEH will suffer.


  14. Moh want the 15million for his constiuants when dem go on the u n w from the 15th jan 2014


  15. SARGE
    THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE HILTON; AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE QEH

    THE QEH WAS NOT BUILT FOR THE EXPANSION WHICH IT HAS EXPERIENCED. IN FACT IT HAS DONE VERY WELL
    WE LIKE KNOCKING DOWN BUILDINGS IN BIM TOO MUCH
    MODIFY THE QEH AS A SPECIALITY HOSPITAL

    WE HAVE THE EYE CENTER
    OBS & GYNAE ON THE A FLOOR
    ENT ON THE B FLOOR &………..?????
    MEDICINE ON THE C FLOOR


  16. THE QEH WANTS MANAGING BY PRACTICAL FOLK
    NOT THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH–THEY ARE INCAPABLE

    THERE IS NO PROBLEMS WITH MANAGEMENT OF BAYVIEW IM SURE

  17. Caswell Franklyn Avatar

    Georgie Porgie

    The QEH is not even structurally sound. Don’t you remember when they attempted to fix the A&E some years ago it started to crumble and a new one had to be built. They found chicken coop wire in the foundation. Don’t you recall that at one stage bricks were falling from the ceiling in some wards. Also some operating theatres leak.

    What is so desirable about retaining a structure that cannot accommodate the new medical equipment. I understand your fears: you are worried that all the money voted to build a new hospital might not be spent on the project.

    >


  18. @Caswell & GP

    Why aren’t these studies made public?


  19. Because then it would be too OBVIOUS that the whole thing is just a scam to fleece money from public funds.
    …the people are brass bowls …not idiots.


  20. When did you become an engineer Caswell?
    There are buildings hundreds of years old all over the DEVELOPED world – some with straw, rather than chicken coop wire – that continue to be used for modern purposes, including hospitals.
    Is it not OBVIOUS that if you ask a FOREIGN consultant for an opinion you will get what you want as a recommendation?
    Bushie is surprised that they did not recommend we rebuild with Italian marble and stone from the Swiss Alps….. Damn idiots…
    Bushie bet you that they did not ask Grenville for an opinion……his mouth too ready….


  21. @Bush Tea

    On the mention of the name Grenville listened with interest to his view that the significant construction work available locally is being procured by one interest group.

  22. Caswell Franklyn Avatar

    Bushie

    You may be right about old buildings all over the world but they are not crumbling.

    Oh, by the way, I did not suddenly become an engineer. I am only relaying information that was given to me by the engineers who are afraid to blog.

    >


  23. On the back page of “Barbados Today” dated 08 October, 2013, the headline screamed: “QEH SAFE”. I asked then, and I am asking again: How safe is it? Was the Minister of Health referring to its structure, and inventory? That’s all he could mean – and not even that, because I have learned from a reliable source that one or the other of the lifts is not in operation sometimes! Has Sen. Irene Sandiford-Garner inspected all of the health care facilities in the Caribbean recently after the Minister of Finance, in his wisdom, cut millions of dollars from the funds to be allocated to the QEH? I do not think that funds to our lone hospital should be cut as mainly the lower echelons of our society depend on it too much! The same goes for funds to education!

  24. Caswell Franklyn Avatar

    You have to understand how corruption works in this country. We have two parties in this country that are unable at times to pay their light bills. Then an election is announced and all of a sudden, these parties can afford millions of dollars in advertising and other campaign expenses. Where do you think the money came from? You know what they say: He who pays the piper calls the tune. In his case, he who pays for the campaign gets the contracts.

    >


  25. Hi Caswell
    The reason that those OTHER old buildings are not crumbling is that they are MAINTAINED systematically. You see, the people who manage them are not brass bowl idiots like ’bout here. They realize that it is better to CONSTANTLY maintain and upkeep, …than to knock down and rebuild and remain poor…..
    I know you work with facts, but most engineers in Barbados are COWARDS who know the facts but whisper them only in tight circles… Besides, many of them have vested interest in having large construction projects coming on stream…. Wink wink!!

  26. Caswell Franklyn Avatar

    Anthony Davis

    You should realise by now that both parties treat the lower echelons of our society a expendable. They are only needed for the vote.

    >


  27. Bushie cannot understand you Caswell!
    How can you so accurately outline the BASIC problem that we face in leadership in Barbados (the fact that BOTH political parties are FOR SALE to the moneyed class of the island) and completely ignore Bushie’s solution of BUP??
    Wha happen…YOU SUDDENLY FRIGHTEN? !!
    Shiite man Caswell!!! Face up to your calling….who else can stop that shiite?


  28. @Caswell

    You need to life your eyes onto the hills….

    It is the political system which breeds the interest groups and most favoured and NOT the politicians. They are human after all .

  29. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Bush Tea | 26/12/2013 at 7:48 am |
    “Because then it would be too OBVIOUS that the whole thing is just a scam to fleece money from public funds.”

    In the absence of “honest” information coming from the MoH your position is the only conclusion that can be reached at this stage.

    The previous MoH publicly declared only a few months ago that the Cabinet of Barbados had agreed to the proposal to construct a new hospital and Kingsland was the preferred site identified for its construction.
    Even the estimated cost of construction was established with the next stage one of arranging the finance.

    How a decision of such magnitude could have been reached by a Cabinet full of highly “educated” people (at the country’s expense) without ‘feasibility” studies being conducted in the first place? As you said this is just another “scam to fleece” the taxpayers out of millions before these liars leave the scene.

    Shouldn’t we be ‘sincerely’ calling into question the integrity of the previous MoH and reject anything on which he pronounces during his current incarnation?


  30. I would believe Dr. Fraser…as usual the DLP members remain in denial, what they ought to understand is that the fantasy of yesterday is over, it’s back to life and back to reality…Dr. Fraser is just asking for better, constant upgrade and consistent best of care, if possible, he was not comparing the QEH to others in the Caribbean, is the education in Barbados not helping people to understand anything, does that too need an upgrade..

  31. Caswell Franklyn Avatar

    Bushie

    Frighten! I don’t know the meaning of the word. But you are behaving as though you don’t understand Bajans. Three years ago, I started Unity Workers Union and to date I am still struggling with 290 members but, every day I receive queries from members of other unions who have no confidence in their organisations. Yet still they remain with those discredited unions. Bushie, I can’t have too many irons in the fire.

    >


  32. I have seen many buildings falling apart in Barbados over the years, they seem to fracture easily,I don’t know if it is poor quality concrete, the number of pours put together, or the weakness of the base but concrete buildings should not be so easy to fall apart. Sorry Alvin, in Canada the weather is extreme and everything is solid, unless it was built by the thieves at the Olympic stadium. If the pig story was sticks ,straw. and marl we may have had a different ending.


  33. When are we going to get it through our skulls that politicians can only manufacture solutions and generate thought processes within the boundary of a narrow frame of reference.


  34. I believe Sir Henry Fraser. Its a no brainer.

    The DLP have been telling us everything is ok for months and years and now look! I don’t know what they can do to regain credibility.

    What happened with St. Joseph hospital? Wasn’t some American or Canadian company going to take it over and run it as a private hospital?’


  35. Why do we believe Dr.Fraser because he is an “expert” but have difficulty believing the engineering “expert”? I know,once ‘politicians’ involved it must be scam right? I guess Dr.Fraser is not political…lmao.


  36. Anyone remembers the local engineers’ opinions on the flyovers?

  37. Caswell Franklyn Avatar

    Enuff

    We believe Professor Fraser because he is white. That is still the Bajan mentality.

    >


  38. Does anyone care to comment on the now stalled again St.John Polyclinic and the money which could have been spent refurbishing some part of the QEH ?


  39. @ Pearl
    The truth is really quite simple.
    1- The main function of politicians is to open functions and give some speech (it is the ONLY way that you can get CBC TV coverage)
    2- the politicians are not very bright (else they would have good jobs where they did not need to face such abuse) so they have speeches written by public servants
    3- the public servants resent being bossed around by such brass bowl idiots – so they write bare shiite ….making them lie, contradict themselves, and generally look like asses… (The POLs are not bright OK. 🙂 )
    4 – Additionally, every white person that comes by with some scam becomes immediate NEWS for the next function

    Do like Bushie….treat them like Trevor Eastmond…..


  40. Here we go again, who to believe, the politician, the professional or…


  41. Because what he is saying is OBVIOUS.


  42. @Caswell, keep your ears to the ground as it relates to this NUPW proposed vote/referendum on a 3% wage cut for I assume all public servants. Put ‘we’ Unity Workers lawyer/s on notice to head to White Park Road. If Unity members get lay off, they cant go to fatted calf to get any of meat. That calf is bare bone by now.


  43. HOW MANY INNOCENT BAJANS ARE DYING IN QEH HOSPITAL LEAVING THEIR FAMILIES WITHOUT RECOURSE TO EVEN BASIC ANSWERS OR EVEN LITIGATION?

    We can argue about the semantics all day long guys but the above question is as fundamental as the toilet paper we need to wipe our backsides – but then if you leave it up to those who “SPIN” the propaganda – you wouldn’t think that certain individuals actually even take a “SHIT” or smell for that matter!

    What a JOKE!

    PLANTATION DEEDS would be able do more justice on this point than I would be able to do!

    The LIES, INTRIGUE & shenanigans of those in power (and in this case, the rubic moves from beyond the politicians to so-called clinicians) men who PLAY GOD with people’s lives – believing that because they spent years studying a whole host of CRAP that often times they will never really apply even in the practice of getting sick people WELL – with the administration of DRUG policy overshadowing true HIPPOCRATIC practice!

    DOCTORS today are bureaucrats – paper pushers ticking bloody boxes! They are puffed up with self-aggrandized humanistic knowledge that does [precious] little to save lives.

    BIG PHARMA is their “god”! Public health p[olicy] has become a JOKE! It’s all about $$$$$$ & CENTS! The old adage of an ounce of PREVENTION has flown the flipping coup!

    Mass public education to enlighten a DUMBED-DOWN populace is now frankly non-existent! So our people get sicker and sicker with AMPUTATIONS from DM being rife! Modern lifestyle diseases continue to ravage even the young. Heart disease (from bad habits); strokes and every cancer under the sun sucks the life-blood out of a people that ought to be the healthiest in the world!

    So most end up being CUT, POISONED or BURNED!

    For those doctors who are AWAKE, they know that these 3 diagnostic tools used in modern medicine do not work to curb disease! They are stop-GAP measures! They are plasters on a gangrenous lesion!

    For example, ask your GP why he would NOT take CHEMO if diagnosed with the BIG C?

    Interesting the answers that come out from these bastards!

    Those who are AWAKE know that radiotherapy should never be part of clinical protocol given that 4 year window of cancer recurrence in some other part of the body! Too much research to support this finding!

    Modern medicine totally overlooks the EFFICACY of DIET & NUTRITION in the body’s vascular system to heal itself without the intervention of any of the above specious treatment protocols!

    BLIND GUIDES! Leading fools down to the graves untimely! What a JOKE!

    But the day is coming when “DOCTORS” will be made redundant because of what is coming to our world – answers that medical science won’t be able to answer and as the NATIONS AWAKE to the diabolical effects of what gory medicine have created – many will recognize the authenticity of SELF-MEDICATION!

    But if it left up to our bleeding politicians – we won’t have the rite to SELF-MEDICATE!

    Time to WAKE UP GUYS!


  44. YES, that 3S was a fly-by-night scam company put together to execute a project without a plan.
    You have new information Enuff?


  45. @Ping Pong

    Pushing the agenda to complete the St. John Polyclinic was political, period. When will we learn.


  46. Walcott, who is one of Barbados’ leading surgeons said: “On many occasions while I was Minister of Health I tried to dissuade people from using the health service and by extension the QEH as a political football. I was incompetent, the Government of the day did not know what they were doing, and even a former moderator on a call-in programme held similar sentiments. So I was surprised to hear the Leader of Government business in the Senate, Senator Maxine McClean saying that running a hospital was a tough job.

    “And it certainly is. We hear the Minister of Health John Boyce speaking about this secondary health institution when QEH is a tertiary health institution. It says it repeatedly. When speaking about removing the QEH from a political football we moved towards establishing a board. We thought that the stakeholders should be involved. We established a ten member board. Three persons being selected by the minister and seven, the majority representing various stakeholder interests. DLP believed that this was wrong, but two days before the Christmas the chickens have come home to roost. Suffice it to say, six years later with all of the ideas, this enlightened management, enlightened Government in terms of health care, we are faced with essentially the same issues,” the Opposition senator added.
    bdostoday


  47. 13,000 died needlessly at 14 worst NHS Trusts – The needless deaths of thousands of “BRITISH” NHS patients will be exposed in a report this week.

    SEE MORE:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/heal-our-hospitals/10178296/13000-died-needlessly-at-14-worst-NHS-trusts.html


  48. Brilliant ANON…..100%
    Shiite man, if you continue in this vain Bushie will retire from BU in 2014 and just read your posts….
    ….LOL
    ….Besides this is SURE to piss GP off… 🙂


  49. “International consultants” are known to offer kick backs as part of the standard cost of doing “international” business.


  50. In its release, BAMP said its members had confirmed the “shortages of basic drugs and supplies have impacted the quality of care delivered at our principal tertiary health care institution and polyclinics”. (JS/PR)

    Shouldn’t we be listening to BAMP or not? Who has any integrity left in Barbados? Does it really matter who is telling the truth anymore? What are the patients saying? Should we be hearing from them instead of some politician in survival mode?

    I disagree with both Senators. Let us hear from the customers. Where is their voice in all of this?

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