The Tourism Business, A Labour of Love for Adrian

Adrian Loveridge - Owner of Peach & Quiet Hotel

Adrian Loveridge – Owner of Peach & Quiet Hotel

As we prepare to enter a brand new year, 2013 will be another benchmark one for us personally. Our small hotel celebrates its fortieth birthday and my wife and I enter our collective one hundred years in the hospitality industry.

I owe old copies of National Geographic magazine to my first interest in tourism, while spending prolonged time in hospital as a child. Even five decades ago the images were outstanding, and to me, captivating. I knew, that with my limited formal education, that I was never going to be destined for a ‘normal’ job or career. Even before leaving school I worked as a waiter in the Bath Hotel in Lynmouth, North Devon and later training as a Commis de Rang, at one of Britain’s historical hotels, the Old Ship in Brighton which opened it’s door in 1559. Not for a moment did I think waiting on tables was a demeaning task and would genuinely take great pleasure in ensuring diners had the very best possible service and experience. Surely that’s what we all want.

Most of the monies earned were spent travelling. My first big trip was hitch hiking to Istanbul, along the way stopping in many cities, towns and villages. I vividly remember visiting Paris for the first time and marvelling how beautiful it was and so different to London. Yet geographically, so close.

 

Among, the many ‘adventures’ that followed, was reliving an old television series Route 66, across the United States and even now, recalling the amazing hospitality of the American people. One example, was while waiting hours for a lift in a small Texan town called Whitesboro, its Sherriff, driving one of those huge Ford police cars, pulled over and told me to get in. Flashes of the part Rod Steiger played in the film ‘Heat of the Night’ went through my brain, thinking that he was arresting me for jay walking or some other infringement. As it was late in the day, he took me to his office, let me sleep in an unlocked cell overnight and the following morning, his wife brought me the first ever Texas breakfast that I had experienced.

By this time, tourism had become my life and the only industry that I wanted to be part of. Money soon ran out, but I was lucky to land a job in a small travel agency based in Winnipeg, Canada. This was the solution, work in the industry, get paid and learn every aspect of what makes it tick. Later I joined a Swiss company, Globus Gateway, based in Lugano, as a tour director escorting coach holidays across Europe and North Africa. My very first tour, 47 days long, visited 17 countries, four of which I had never previous visited. I met the group in London and flew with them to Madrid, where we joined our European motor coach and driver for the remaining six weeks. Manuel spoke only Spanish and had never driven outside Spain, so you can imagine, what a defining learning curve this was.

I will be eternally grateful to Globus for having the confidence in me, to trust that not only would we survive that first tour intact, but go on to direct many others successfully. Along the way gathering the knowledge needed to get better and better at the job.

Returning to the UK, we started our own tour company, but that is part two of the story for another week.

  • Thanks for sharing Adrian. No doubt such an experience such as you have narrated gives you world view which is unique.

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  • Thanks Adrian, yours seem a reasonable query:

    It would appear that LIAT has ordered European made ATR aircraft, but seemingly no public discussion with the majority Barbadian taxpayer shareholders.

    As Canada is a major source market, wouldn’t it have been better for tourism if the order was for Bombardier Dash Q400 aircraft?

    Two types of aircraft
    Two types of spare parts
    Two types of pilot training

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsKpS_wZ-14

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  • Good luck to Jean Holder as he tries to galvanize regional leaders whose lethargy about air transport in the region and other things makes one wonder if they understand the nature of the world we live in today.

    AS SEVERAL international carriers cut flights into the region, LIAT’s Jean Holder is urging a meeting of CARICOM Heads of Government to discuss the burning issue of air transportation’s critical role in supporting the CARICOM Single Market and Economy.

    Holder made the call amid concerns that come March 2013, American Eagle will cease operations into the region; British Airways will cease operating to San Juan, Puerto Rico, after March 2013 and Virgin Airlines will cease operating its summer programme to Tobago in 2013 unless the government there pays them one £million.

    http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20121231/news/news3.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

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  • Here is another quote from Holder who is Chairman of LIAT:

    One of things Holder is not expecting to come out of the meeting is the recommendation of privatisation of the regional carriers. “The much-touted view that privatisation is the answer to the problems of intra-Caribbean air transportation is demonstrably false,” was the stinging criticism that came from him.

    Holder referenced that the privatisation of air services such as Air Jamaica, BWIA and LIAT in the mid-1990s, was a miserable failure.

    He, however, admitted that Caribbean carriers must take the hard decisions needed to put their own houses in order, and so must all their partners.

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  • Very interesting Adrian and I can’t wait for part 2.

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  • We have been watching, though generally ignoring, the mediocre contributions of Adrian Loveridge for some time but never felt motivated to respond. We have always wondered which world he lives in. That his narrative could represent any entity that seeks to engage in global business. That the industry which he purports to represent continues to beg for commercial advantage from government to maintain, not a service, but a servitude industry that serves white peoples’ taste. An industry where there has never been wide participation at the ownership level. An industry that insert strict limits between white tourists and the local black population. Where benefits to the workers have precipitously declined over the years. An industry that still exist on a flawed business model that Barbados is to be redefined exclusively by what white people want. An institutional framework that is generally hostile to black tourists.The misguided notion that if white tourist stop coming to Barbados we will face disintegration – they are to be no other strategic options for our people – in the mind of a white tourism management/ownership class..An industry that still maintains a perverse typology of social apartheid more virulent than that of South Africa pre-1994 (circa).

    At what point are Bajans going to step up to the task of determining our own destiny? And we are not talking about that petty event of 1966. When will we develop our own voice and stop these semi-literate people from pretending to speak for us? Barbados, as a central player in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, still remains a place where less than 2% of the population can use they connections to white supremacy globally in order to maintain strategic dominance over what is essentially an African population. More fundamentally, black elites like Jean Holder, are merely ‘talking heads’ who have been saying the same types of things for forty years to appease the vested interests at home and abroad but will continue to own nothing and therefore have no REAL control over any industry and by extension the country..

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  • INTERESTING STORY ADRIAN

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  • @ Pachama

    “At what point are Bajans going to step up to the task of determining our own destiny? Barbados, as a central player in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, still remains a place where less than 2% of the population can use they connections to white supremacy globally in order to maintain strategic dominance over what is essentially an African population. Barbados, as a central player in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, still remains a place where less than 2% of the population can use they connections to white supremacy globally in order to maintain strategic dominance over what is essentially an African population. ”

    Seems you meant BLACK Bajans.

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  • @Enuff
    No thanks. White ones like the great T.T Lewis would do too!

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  • What is the destiny you are refering to,? how does it play out ? that black Bajans own everything and only black tourists visit the island? What will make you happy? What economy model do you suggest? Remember you have no resources. Do you think other countries do not have their own lawyers and politicians or are starved for Bajan intellectuals because they have none of their own.Is there a shortage of flying fish somewhere?
    Do you not realize it doesnt matter about color ,religion, gender etc the economy is in trouble.There is a price to pay for having a high standard of living that revolves around tourism sometimes you have to stoop to conquer

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  • Okay Pachamama, here’s your chance. Come out from behind Mother Earth and tell us how to proceed. Oh! That’s right! You’re only programmed to complain! Doesn’t seem as though your New Year will be a happy one.

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  • Mr Loveridge doesnt seem to have minded working hard during his life to achieve his success and I am sure it shaped it into the person he is today

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  • Hard work? Careful Lawson this is heresy. We need and deserve to have everything given to us. Work? Steupse!

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    “A labour of love”,

    a man with a property he wants $9million for .

    How many ordinary Bajans can boast of such?

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    Peltdownman

    “You’re only programmed to complain!”

    If you REALLY want to see a complainer, then look no further than ADRIAN LOVERIDGE!!!!!

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    islandgal246 | December 31, 2012 at 6:52 AM |

    “Very interesting Adrian and I can’t wait for part 2.”

    Take your nose from you know where.

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  • Wow what did this guy do ….run over your dog ….forget your birthday or is it something deeper ….there is a fine line between love and hate

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  • Arson Ca DOG gone…..you need to take ALL of your rabies shots. You racist low life! YOU need to take your head outta yuh back door!

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  • I read adrien article with interest and it is always good to hear stories of people who worked hard and became acheivers but one can help but wonder about some of our own who had to leave these shores to make a living while outsiders were giving a welcome mat to pursue their dreams. good job adrien.

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  • “but one can help but wonder about some of our own who had to leave these shores to make a living while outsiders were giving a welcome mat to pursue their dreams.”

    AC…. please re read what you have just written and think about what you have stated above. Leaving these shores to make a living, is this not also pursuing ones dreams? Many who have left have had successes they could never dream of had they remained on the island.

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  • Reading between the lines I understand completely what ac is meaning….not all large white female tourists can afford to come to Barbados and to make a living sometimes Mohammed has to go to the mountain.

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  • Isgal !no! you reread what i wrote . in the same way Foreigners are given acessible opportunities to pursue their dreams this is the same barbados who have refuse to give their own such privileges hence wehave educated bajans leaving our shores to pursue their dream. they had to be doors opened for adrien to pursue his dream in barbados which made a differnce to being succesful and failure , such doors remained locked giving those bajans no other choice but to leave and pursue their dream.

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  • What are we missing here? Immigration is a routine activity all over the world. In the 50s and 60s for example many Barbadians left Barbados to imptove there lot because the country did not have the developmental capacity to satisfy all and sundry. Conversely many came to Barbados with skills which the country needed to develop. We really need to establish solid positions to argue from.

    On 1 January 2013 15:18, Barbados Underground

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  • Lawd…please give us some sort of reprieve (a better one than the dairy farmers getting) from ignorance….it is so exhausting!

    Bless those of you who make comments that are elevating….reading about the quagmire of hatred of our species is indeed becoming so old hat…a new year resolution should be made to just speak of peoples…some with brains, a lot with none…some with business acumen, others with government aid arms…some who enjoy sharing their expertise, others who think they know it all and others should not….some with cavernous shoulders showing enormous chips and some with gorgeous smooth ones…ahhhhh….and yes…some with white skin, others with brown, red, black, yellow…perhaps even green from all the envy…but ALL with the same blood and the same one link to life. What a wonderful world this would be (as I break into song) if only…..

    Mr. Loveridge your story, as the many stories that each and everyone of us has (even if some are myopic (still a story!)), is worth reading…do continue to give us the opportunity to travel through your life…perhaps even learn a thing or two….

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  • and i know of many Bajans who returned to Barbados in the sixties with much skill and interest in entrepreneurship and was giving the run around .who then in turn had to go overseas to pursue the very interest which were not allowed them in the island in favour of outsiders. i KNOW that for a fact. So david in your feeble attempt to dismiss the racist divide with its hidden agenda their are plenty stories than can be toldby Bajans who live overseas who were denied opportunities because of color and a tendency by those in control to dismiss them as irrelavant. these bajans have rather chosen to remain silent rather than upset the apple cart as foreigner investment is what drives the economy. but belive me many have not forgotten how their were treated before they left and retrurned lokking for a second chance.

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  • And YEs how about rhianna Labour of Love in givingg back to the country .not even a Subititle on BU but then again bajans not ones to show any respect to their own kind.

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  • Huh….investment drives the economy, money knows no color, gender or ethniticity , a returning national with cash would be met with open arms just as a newcomer would A returning national with with no money but new ideas is a different story Try telling your Granny that is not the way to make a cake after you watching a cooking show and see if you get a better reception especially if it is her ingrediants..
    I am an immigrant to Canada, since I have been here I have apoligized to the Indians for stealing their land in the 1700s apoligized to the japanese for incarcerating them during ww2, apoligized to the french for them losing the battle of the plains of abraham I have only been a canadian five minutes and I have inherited all this baggage from people I have never met or even related to. Now I marry a Bajan and I owe her dead predecessors,lets not forget I am a catholic probably by force but that doesnt matter you just know my ancestors have screwed somebody over. So Ac when does it stop, when do we stop living in the past .
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  • @ac

    Extreme positions can be described anywhere on the globe. The point here is that Adrian came to Barbados and worked his ass of to support he an his family full stop in the same way Bajans went to N.America and the UK and did the same. And of course some were unsuccessful. Final comment on this matter.

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  • @Adrian

    Your expert opinion is required.

    Should it be part of the script of a waiter (in Barbados) to inquire if the table prefers bottle or tap water?

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  • ac wrote “Foreigners are given accessible opportunities to pursue their dreams this is the same barbados who have refuse to give their own such privileges.”

    Please tell us what these accessible opportunities are in detail.

    I can get a white man or woman to front for me so I can return before I retire.

    uh waiting ac. Details please.

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  • lawson
    You refer to indigenous Canadians as Indians, pussy, you got another apology to make. You really do not get it.

    ac
    Why not ask Adrian what he think would have happened if he were Black doing what he was doing in Texas and a police truck pulled up. Is it not more than possible that the cell he would have been put in would have been locked for a long long time? “amazing hospitality of the American people” … seriously funny …!

    Peltdown
    So Pacha is harsh, very harsh in his comments, but I will give some time to respond to you. If does not, look out ’cause I coming fah yah ass … HA HA HA

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  • I never said anything about indian pussy,is that all you think about

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  • Lawson
    HA HA HA Dat is soooo good …! This year is going to be a good one … HA HA HA

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  • Adrian Loveridge

    David,

    In my personal experience this is usually asked. We do not eat out a lot, but certainly my personal experience in Tapas, The Tides, Champers, Waterfront (tap water brought automatically) Atlantis, The Fish Pot, Lighthouse Terrace at the Hilton, Naniki, Cafe Indigo, all these offered a choice.

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  • Thanks Adrian, the question was asked because part of the problem with local hospitality is that the ‘help’ often times will profile locals and visitors. Locals are routinely offered tap water while visitors are ask the question bottle or tap at a few restaurants and hotels.

    On 1 January 2013 20:14, Barbados Underground

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  • Adrian Loveridge

    I think in some cases, there is a lot of misunderstanding about foreigners like us investing in Barbados. First of all we had to bring ALL the funds into Barbados to purchase P&Q. In those days we paid a 10 per cent of purchase price in additional taxation that wasn’t payable by Barbadians. Then even though the hotel was ours, we had to apply for work permits for seven consecutive years before applying for immigrant status. It was, I am sure a little game with Immigration. We would get all the ‘required’ documentation, and then when eventually able to see an immigration officer to renew each work permit, were then told we needed yet another document. No suppliers wanted to extend credit to us and everything was paid out of cash flow. And you think its easy, well when we agreed to but the former Arawak Inn, the value of Sterling was 4.2 BDS$ to GBPound 1, but when we actualy completed it has fell to $2.88. ALL the money for refurbishing , upgrading and marketing had vanished.
    And finanlly, I wonder just how many people that contribute to this blog, have worked a minimum of 13 hours a day, seven days a week, sometimes for 8 months without a day off. We are not complaining, just trying to get some people to undertstand that the colour of our skin, doesn’t mean we have everything EASY. If we equate our investment with what we are likely to sell the property for on retirement, then it would not even pay US minimum wage (in any state) for the hours the two of us have worked over the last 25 years.

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  • Adrian Loveridge

    Error, should read’ when we agreed to BUY’

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  • We are closely watching this dialog and will make an intervention very soon. The Bajans can’t help but genuflect or show submission to the likes of Loveridge, not us doah. That this marginal so-called investor could assert the type of authority he does tells us that slavery aint done. It reminds one of Loius Lynch who left Barbados to teach the white Americans how to remove the humanity of African slaves.

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  • @Pacha

    It seems like you are painting with a broad brush? Doyou believe all White people are not worthy?

    On 1 January 2013 20:49, Barbados Underground

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  • Some people will never be free, it doesnt fit their purpose You know those people that if you look at their family tree Bussa will be in there somewhere. Crippled by history how can they ever be held accountable for any misfortune that befalls them
    .Running a business is like playing Russian roulette never knowing if there is a bullet in the chamber.Each month a different bullet (payroll, weather, need etc) Forget the work hours you put in what about all those sleepless nights you are up worrying that you may be losing your families future because they had faith in your dream Whether you make it or go bankrupt doesnt diminish the effort and hours put in any businees to try and make it a success and if you are one of the ” lucky” ones who make it why apologize you earned it.
    I say it again some people will never be free especially BAFBFP slave to the pussy .

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  • Adrian Loveridge wrote ” how many people that contribute to this blog, have worked a minimum of 13 hours a day, seven days a week, sometimes for 8 months without a day off.”

    That is normal for small business owners and some self employed persons.

    Some of us on this blog have done that but the sacrifice is worth the pride of being your own boss.

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  • Carson C. Cadogan

    “Island’s Q3 tourism figures drop

    The Island’s third quarter tourism for 2012 slumped by nearly three percent in comparison with the year before.

    Most of the decline was attributed to an eight percent drop in scheduled cruise ship calls for July to September, 2012, over the previous year’s bumper count.

    All in all, the Bermuda Department of Tourism reported a total of 260,129 visitors during the third quarter — more than 75 percent of them from the US.”

    Every caribbean country knows the importance of cruise tourism, yet ADRIAN wants us here in Barbados to treat them as Pariahs.

    Look what happen in Bermuda, an 8% drop in cruise ship calls led to a bad quarter for them.

    We in Barbados have to be very careful with certain “expert” tourism advice.

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  • There was one blackowned store in the city of Bridgetown as far back as the sixties and it seems nothing much has changed now am i to believe that in all of barbados ththat there was only one black person capable or had the financial were withall to have such a business ,and if yes how come so many others of ethnic background were able to have owned or sustain business like in Swan ST.am i to believe that they all came to barbados with lots of money in their pockets.

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  • Black bajans (and i know i will take scorching heat for this) continue to act like crabs in a barrel, continue to impede each others progress, hate with a passion to see each other moving forward positively, their excuse, ignorarnt as it sounds is ‘yu want to get big too quick” while allowing every other race to prosper and progress at a most alarming rate, right in Bim and at their expense. Now let’s touch on the politicians, they hate to see a black person like themselves prosper, even if its a potential voter, cause you see, and i heard one voice this ‘you will have more than me’. How do you get rid of that nasty, negative way of thinking that has been passed from generation to generation without fail. Now way i see it bajans are so clouded and deluded with skin color and hair texture, they are unable to see or process this negative and race damaging practice. Up until a few years ago, a white person from any country could fly into bim, stop at the nearest bank, secure a loan, medium or gigantic and fly out the same day, no problemo, cause he/she white. You as a black person, just go face any black employee in any bank and try getting even $1000. Good luck, so you see the people of different skin color persuasions continue to have no problem starting and continuing successful businesses in BIM? I don’t blame these business people, i put the blame squarely where it belongs.

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  • barbadostripadvisor

    White Slavery and Servitude in Barbados

    Between the years of 1652 to 1659 it is estimated that well over 50,000 men, women, and children of Irish descent were forcibly transported to British imperial colonies in Barbados and Virginia to serve as slave labor on plantations.
    Other prisoners of war, as well as political dissenters, taken from conquered regions of England, Wales, and Scotland were also sent into permanent exile as slaves to Barbados. This essentially enabled Cromwell to purge the subject population of any perceived opposing elements, as well as to provide a lucrative source of profit through their sale to plantation owners. The extent to which White prisoners were transported to Barbados was so great, that by 1701, out of the roughly 25,000 slaves present on the island’s plantations, about 21,700 of them were of European descent. Later, as the African slave trade began to expand and flourish, the Irish slave population of Barbados began to drastically recede over time, due in part to the fact that many were worked to death early on in their arrival and also as a result of racial intermixing with Black slaves.

    In stark contrast to the small number of White indentured servants present on Barbados, who could at least theoretically look forward to eventual freedom no matter how bad their temporary bondage may have been, White slaves possessed no such hope. Indeed, they were treated the same as slaves of African descent in every manner imaginable. Irish slaves in Barbados were regarded as property to be bought, sold, treated and mistreated in any way the slave-owner saw fit. Their children were born into hereditary slavery for life as well. Punitive violence, such as whippings, was liberally employed against Irish slaves, and was often used on them immediately upon their arrival in the colonies to brutally reinforce their enchained status, and as a warning against future disobedience. The dehumanizing and degrading cattle-like physical inspections used to assess and showcase the “qualities” of each captive for prospective buyers, which reached infamy with the Black slave markets, was also practiced upon both White slaves and indentured servants in the colonies of the West Indies and North America. Irish slaves were marked off from their free White kinsmen through a branding of the owner’s initials applied to the forearm for women and on the buttocks for men by a red-hot iron. Irish women, in particular were seen as a desirable commodity by White slave owners who purchased them as sexual concubines. Others found themselves sold off to local brothels. This degrading practice of sex slavery made Irish men, women and children potential victims to perverse whims of many unsavory buyers.

    In reality, White slaves fared no better a fate as unwilling human property than did contemporary captive Africans. At times they were even treated worse then their Black counterparts due to economic considerations. This was especially true throughout most of the 17th century, as White captives were far more inexpensive on the slave market than their African counterparts, and hence were mistreated to a greater extent as they were seen as a conveniently disposable labor force. It was not until later that Black slaves became a cheaper commodity. An account dating back to 1667 grimly described the Irish of Barbados as “poor men, that are just permitted to live,… derided by the Negroes, and branded with the Epithite of white slaves.” A 1695 account written by the island’s governor frankly stated that they labored “in the parching sun without shirt, shoe, or stocking”, and were “domineered over and used like dogs.” It was common knowledge among the Irish of this era that to be deported, or “barbadosed”, to the West Indies meant a life of slavery. In many cases, it was actually common for White slaves in Barbados to be supervised by mulatto or Black overseers, who often treated captive Irish laborers with exceptional cruelty. Indeed:

    The mulatto drivers enjoyed using the whip on whites. It gave them a sense of power and was also a protest against their white sires. White women in particular were singled out for punishment in the fields. Sometimes, to satisfy a perverted craving, the mulatto drivers forced the women to strip naked before commencing the flogging and then forced them to continue working all day under the blistering sun. While the women were weeding in the fields in that condition, the drivers often satisfied their lust by taking them from the rear.

    Such instances of horrific rape and unwilling sexual union between Irish female slaves and Black slave-drivers, was actually implicitly encouraged by many of their White masters. Mulatto children, who resulted from such unions, both willing and unwilling, were seen by the plantation masters as a potentially unlimited breeding stock of future native-born slave labor, acquired free of charge and without the costs of transportation. Existing public records on Barbados reveal that some planters went as far as to systematize this process of miscegenation through the establishment of special “stud farms” for the specific purpose of breeding mixed-race slave children. White female slaves, often as young as 12, were used as “breeders” to be forcibly mated with Black men.

    The enchained Irish of Barbados played a pivotal role as the instigators and leaders of various slave revolts on the island, which was an ever-present threat faced by the planter aristocracy. Such an uprising occurred in November 1655, when a group of Irish slaves and servants escaped along with several Blacks, and proceeded to attempt to spark a general rebellion among the enchained community against their masters. This was a serious enough threat to justify the deployment of militia, which eventually overcame them in a pitched battle. Before their demise they had wreaked considerable havoc upon the ruling planter class, having hacked several to pieces in brutal retribution for their bondage. They had not succeeded in their broader strategy of completely laying waste by fire, the sugar fields in which they had been forced to labor for the enrichment of their masters. Those taken prisoner were made examples of, as a grim warning to the rest of their kindred Irish, when they were burned alive and their heads were thereafter displayed on pikes throughout the market place.

    As a result of a steep increase in Black slave labor migration to Barbados, compounded with high rates of Irish mortality and racial intermixing, White slaves, which had once constituted the majority of the population in 1629, were reduced to an increasingly dwindling minority by 1786. In the present era, there remains only a minuscule, yet significant community within the native Barbadian population comprised of the descendants of Scots-Irish slaves, who continue to bear testimony to the tragic legacy of their enchained Celtic forebears. This small minority within the predominantly Black island of Barbados is known locally as the “Red Legs” , which was originally a derogatory name, understood in similar context to the slur “redneck”, and was derived from the sun-burnt skin experienced by early White slaves who had been previously unadjusted to the tropical Caribbean climate. To this day, a community numbering approximately 400 still resides in the northeastern part of the island in the parish of St. John, and has vigorously resisted racially mixing with the larger Black population, despite living in abject poverty. Most make their living from subsistence farming and fishing, and indeed they are one of the most impoverished groups living in modern Barbados.

    An interesting film on the Red legs can be watched
    http://www.moondance.tv/broadcast-barbados.htm

    Books on this subject

    Sean O’Callaghan, To Hell or Barbados: The Ethnic Cleansing of Ireland

    Kelly D. Whittaker, White Slavery, What the Scots Already Know

    Michael A. Hoffman II, They Were White and They Were Slaves: The Untold History of the Enslavement of Whites in Early America

    Robert E. West, England’s Irish Slaves

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  • barbadostripadvisor

    the English enslaved us and we want them back to look down and rape our land again?
    do we really?

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  • I hope a good many of you that are still barbadosed read this and understand that to be barbadosed was a direct and vicious threat, AND PLEASE DONT TAKE IT FOR A JOKE, ITS NOT, read it carefully, even if you have to read it four times, having said that this very informative piece just cemented my argument about the problems all linked and running really deep. One would think having experienced virtually the same treatment as blacks on the island of bim, the irish descendants would feel some kind of kinship with african descendants, there is still an “am superior to you attitude” prevailing, maybe because of hair texture,, skin color or whatever nonsense real or imagined. Again my question to the ones trying to be divisive, and they know who they are. WHY SHOULD WE BELIEVE ANYTHING COMING OUT OF ENGLAND ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD THINK, SPEAK OR WHAT OPINIONS TO HAVE? Blue eyes is in a thoroughly authoritive position to answer my question, and i would listen.

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  • And how dare they want to preach to anyone about behaviors?? although I know all this stuff already, everytime I read it my mind just tries really hard to wrap around it. If you treated your own so cruelly, how did we expect you to treat anyone else and at what level of cruelty would you stop????

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  • barbadostripadvisor

    MOST OF THE WHITE BAJANS ARE NOT FROM THE SLAVE SIDE OF THINGS.THEY ARE THE VERY DECEDENTS OF THE SLAVE MASTERS AND SLAVE DRIVERS. THE BLOOD MONEY HAS JUST BEEN HANDED DOWN TO THESE BORN WITH A SILVER SPOON IN THEIR MOUTH BUNCH.
    YET THEY TRY TO LOOK INNOCENT THESE ARE THE VERY ONES THAT
    SHOULD BE SHUNNED. IN THEIR GROUPS THEY HAVE TO BE RICH TO BE FRIENDS.
    SO YOU SEE THE DESCENDENTS OF THE WHITE SLAVES ARE IN TUNE WITH THE BLACKS/ BUT THESE SPOIL WHITE CHILDREN ARE THE ONES
    THAT ARE BORN RICH FROM THE BLOOD OF THE SLAVES.
    SOME NOW ARE CHILDREN OF RICH FOREIGNERS THAT BRIBED THEIR WAY IN TO BARBADOS AND PRETEND TO BE BAJAN.
    DID ADRIAN”S FORE FATHERS SPILL BLOOD AND WHIPPED AND RAPED AS WE WERE?????????????
    MOST OF THE WHITE SLAVES IMMIGRATED TO CANADA ,USA,AUSTRALIA,
    ETC TO GET AWAY FROM THE ENGLISH BASTARDS.SO MOST OF THEM ARE NOT THERE AND WOULD NEVER RETURN.

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  • Throughout time somebody was enslaving or being enslaved, roman, greek,god knows who else.People are still being enslaved right now around the world Barbados wasnt a one off. But if it is any consulation to you the way the economy is going all the rich will be poor soon

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  • barbadostripadvisor

    IT IS NO CONSOLATION TO ME .WE WILL NEVER FORGET.!
    ARE YOU ENGLISH BY THE WAY LAWSON?LOL
    TRICKY.?WERE THE ENGLISH SLAVES?AND TO WHOM SUNNY?
    LUCKY WE IRISH DON’T DO THE BOMBING THING THERE YET/
    I SAY YET AS THE FAT LADY HAS NOT SUNG ON THIS YET.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Well Well | January 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM |
    “WHY SHOULD WE BELIEVE ANYTHING COMING OUT OF ENGLAND ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD THINK, SPEAK OR WHAT OPINIONS TO HAVE?”

    Yet you blindly accept the King James’s version of the Judeo-Christian book of myths and lies as your moral compass. Your stridently and potentially violent obsession with and objection to homosexuality are informed by this book of horrors pretending to be the word of some white man god.

    If you object to homosexuality on ‘reasoned’ grounds like its biological redundancy or high risks to the health of male practitioners then people with a modicum of intellect might listen to you and follow your argument. But as it stands your objection to homosexuality is conditioned by the literature written by Jewish moral law makers and cleverly amended and presented to black fools like you. We are sure that David and Jonathan who displayed undying love for each other according to the history book of Samuel would not have agreed with you.

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  • Actually I was born in scotland, we used to say you can always tell an englishman from far but once they get close you cant tell them a damn thing.However I never overlook advice coming from anywhere because even a stopped watch is right twice a day.
    We are probably not so different my ancestors worked the fields for others my parents started in the mills at 13. Hurdles were always in front of us getting ahead and carrying the weight of all that extra poor me baggage made them much harder to get over. So I made a dicission my life will be controlled by me. All my mistakes are mine cant blame them on anyone else but all my successes are also mine and do not owe anybody for those either.
    A englishman goes into the library in Edinburgh and asks the librarian do you have any books on suicide she replies piss off you’ll no bring it back.
    What chance do the English have with Celtic thinking like that.

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  • What you talking about?? haven’t been to church read a bible since i was twelve and realized it was a FRAUD. Never forced my children to go either, let them find out the fraud on their own. Always warned them to look for signs that will tell you the priest or minister is a pedophile, I was unto that scam from real early. That’s part of the problem in bim, religious fanatics.

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  • And again I never objected to homosexuality, only to the homosexual rape of people. Jeez, what are you people reading?

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  • Glad to see some of the people from various euro countries engaging, the education is priceless to those who do not know. The bible in view is just a history book, very well crafted and revised to suit the times, sadly although people read the book; the rich, politicians and a number of others are still doomed to repeat the same mistakes, though they run to church every sunday with the book in their hand, forget everything on Monday. Talk about counterproductive. I keep far from that particular drama. However, what I want to know is how someone who is english speaking can read something and then completely misinterpret what they read?? Please read in segments.

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  • Another piece of valuable information would be to educate black bajans to the reality that whites were slaves as well, on a different level, most don’t know this and think all white people are wealthy, and they should work for them. Education is very valuable, no sense keeping that info secret anymore, it will come out soon anyway.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Well Well | January 2, 2013 at 6:53 PM |

    Since that bible crap has not filled your head with a lot of moral filth you are capable of reasoning.
    Now stop discriminating and condemn the rape of people, period! Man, woman or child should not be raped. Paedophilia is a form of rape and must be punished severely.

    But two consenting adults or more, whether man and man or woman and woman or man and woman can do to each other whatever pleases them on a consensual basis.

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  • Hard headed Miller…… the only people I condemned were the people responsible for victimization. I swear most of you come on the blog to pick fights. Hope you don’t have psychological problems. Why do you think I kept saying I have NO PROBLEM with them when everyone was trying to make the whole thing a biological diagnosis, rather than look at it in various categories – cause and effect.

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  • or more??? in your adaconda ball like scenario is it consensual if alchohol or drugs are involved ????

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  • Thanks for the link, those were studies, some incomplete that did reveal that they recognize some homosexuality is biological. the studies are not done and are complex, as we know. It does relate to genetics, but they still have not touched on areas of victimization that in reality creates some homosexuals. It is a very complex and why I don’t discriminate, since every homosexual or lesbian can give you a story and try to explain why they feel confused or just plain accept their orientation. These stories all vary and hence why studies are still continuing.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ Well Well | January 2, 2013 at 7:16 PM |

    I would pick fights with any racist, homophobic, sexist idiot and religious bigot who discriminates against people because of any disability or cultural difference.

    Since you claim not to be one of them you have nothing to fear from the miller. But you need to make your views and opinions much more clear and understandable and stop vacillating on the homo bandwagon. Do you hate homosexuals (aka bullers and wickers in Bajan lingo) because of their sexual orientation? Because this came over rather strongly in your initial response to P. O’Connor’s criticism of Blackman’s article in another thread while making unnecessary derogatory references to his ethnic or cultural origins.

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  • WELL! WELL! must be a politician fuh she sure know how to talk out both sides of her mouth. talking bout not having no problem with homosexual. .well well i haven’t read nothing positive that WEll ! WEll said about homosexuals.

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  • Sometimes the truth sounds derogatory to those who don’t like to hear it and prefer some people not talk about it; lets not try to indoctrinate anyone, let’s deal with these matters as they really are, homosexuality is a reality, just like everything else we have to deal with. For many centuries people, particularly, in small island colonies in Barbados were expected to shut-up and don’t express any views and opinion, without being told they did not have the mental capabilities to understand anything. THOSE DAY ARE OVER, GET OVER IT, DEAL WITH IT. We can now dialogue and have fantastic forums to do so, multiple forums. Some people are steeped in their old colonial ways thinking whatever they say is gospel and should be adhered to, some black bajans are guilty of that as well, they bajan whites and some europeans still think they know everything. IT’S OVER, different era. People in the caribbean are still reluctant to speak their mind, deal with these issues and tell someone they are wrong. IT’S OVER. Derogatory is when you still think you are superior to another race and still make derogatory comments about them, everyone can do that now. See, if blue eyes think i am going to apologize, hell will freeze over. I certainly hope he understood the links you sent me and see for himself the studies are still incomplete and complex.

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  • as for the tourism industry . they too are well aware of the financial power the homosexual community weilds. ask butch he try shutting them out but he soon learned that money is inclusive and boycotts is a favourite pastime of the gay community.

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  • If I have to come back on this Earth in a different time zone and had the choice I would choose anywhere between 1650 and 1800 as a White male plantation owner in Barbados. Now surely that would be heaven … wow!

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  • BAFBFP, that is why it will NEVER happen again. But for argument sake what if it should be attempted now, do you think you could survive????. We are fully aware that alot of you yearn for those evil old days, when laziness and cruelty was the white man’s mews. There is a saying, be careful for what you ask, you may very well get it. ITS OVER, GET OVER IT.

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  • You know relating to gay tourism, am of the opinion it could be a good thing, however it could be a double-edged sword like present tourism. Now i know most of you heard the story of the ship filled with gays cruising into St. Lucia??? Grenada?? and two individuals felt quite comfortable engaging in intercourse while the ship was going into harbor in full view of the natives. Of course they were arrested, and I think that was the end of that in that particular island. Now if they behave themselves……………………… as i said double edged sword.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ BAFBFP | January 2, 2013 at 8:06 PM |

    You would have had to bed pure (virginal) black wenches to avoid the claps and syphilis.
    Pedophilia and rape would have been par for the course.
    Who said you weren’t and reincarnated as a black man as punishment for your past transgressions (LOL!!).

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  • Don’t forget ANAL RAPE Miller………… ANAL RAPE of slaves. As I kept saying over and over and over, those vicious acts predated homosexuality. In your excitement you forgot that is what i kept saying.

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  • Someone told me they had to cancel the christmas pageant in Bridgetown because they couldnt find three wise men, obviousley they werent looking hard enough

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  • Miller….Too focused on the pure virginal black wenches to remember they were also raping everyone anally, both black and white, male and female, you better thank your lucky stars you were not of that era, you would not be able to laugh out loud.

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  • @BAFBFP
    ’cause I coming fah yah ass … HA HA HA

    Isn’t that for another thread on this blog?

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  • , After CENTURIES of ANAL RAPE OF BOTH RACES, THE ANDROGYNOS male has now surfaced,can anyone say MANIFESTATION. Please do some research before jumping on me, i invite you.

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  • Barbados didn’t quite make the cut. Thank’s to Check-this-out for drawing this to out attention.

    The 10 Best Countries to Retire to in 2013
    Planning to retire abroad? Ecuador is the top spot for North American retirees, according to InternationalLiving.com’s newly-released Annual Global Retirement Index 2013.
    This is Ecuador’s fifth consecutive year at the top of the heap.
    This annual Index—now in its 22nd year–ranks the best international retirement destinations. To compile the ranking, InternationalLiving.com editors collated data from its team of experts on the ground in the most popular countries among U.S. and Canadian expat retirees. Editors assessed factors ranging from the price of groceries and average temperature, to utility costs and the friendliness of locals.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2013/01/04/the-10-best-countries-to-retire-to-in-2013/

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  • Finally something about Barbados in the Ottawa newspaper, large editorial mostly on the Crane resort (getting people to buy a timeshare) but it did speak of the people and the island in glowing terms.Unfortunately every travel advertizement was going somewhere else.Why cant they (whoever they are) co-ordinate good press with at least a couple of specials It seems one hand doesnt know what the other is doing.

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