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Submitted by Porridgeboy
Maureen Holder (r) replaced Peter Wickham (l) as resident political scientist at the CBC when his contract was not renewed.

It has been some time since I have made a contribution to the blog, but at this time I feel compelled to put pen to paper once again so as to state some facts.Since the May 5th and most recently the September 30th a political poll was published The member base of the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) seems to have gone on a campaign to assassinate the character of  pollster Peter Wickham who carried out the poll commissioned by the Nation newspaper .

I have never meet Mr Wickham but I know of  his outstanding work as a pollster in Barbados and in the Caribbean. Needless to say wherever he has done his polling, political or otherwise he has always been correct. Mr Wickham was trained by the late Pat Emmanuel and then worked under him from 1994 until his death. He carried out his first poll in 1998 and has done so successfully since in Barbados and throughout the wider Caribbean. There is no doubt that he has been successful. The Cadres poll which he directs is no fly by night firm nor is it a hit and miss guess work organisation.

Polling is a science and somehow he seems to have perfected it and with every poll he puts his professional reputation on the line. This is why I do not understand the thinking of the members and or supporters of the DLP and especially some Ministers of Government. It makes you wonder if this is the same Peter Wickham who carried out the poll which was commission by the same Nation newspaper in 2008.

That poll predicted a win for the DLP and it was readily accepted.  In fact they went to the length and breadth of Barbados championing the results. Is it not the same Cadres poll? What is the difference between the polls done in 2008, May 5th and September 30, 2012?  What is the reason for this savage attack on the reputation of Mr Wickham? There seems to be an attempt by this administration to assassination the goodly gentleman’s character.

The latest attack came from Miss Maureen Holder, a talk show host on CBC who made some very obnoxious remarks about the Cadres poll. Maureen Holder was recently brought out of the wood work by VOB but quickly ran to CBC after Peter Wickham was dismissed. It appears she can sing not only in a higher range but also as she likes for her supper. I now call on Miss Holder to state her credentials and her success as a pollster in Barbados or anywhere else. Come on Miss Holder we are awaiting them.

Mr. Wickham himself, a political scientist, and not too long ago an advisor to the present government, has taken and handle this criticism as how a true professional would, knowing quite well, that he will be vindicated in the end.

I am of the view that any time 65% of the population calls for early election, it would seem to suggest that the present government is not they first choice.  But instead of making a reality check Ministers are making statements such as “polls don’t vote and the leader boldly saying that he pays no attention to polls”. Well, so be it, time will tell.

Let me conclude by saying Mr Wickham will be vindicated in the end and very soon. To this government I say some of you will be given your orders  to mount your horses very soon to ride back from hence you came and I do hope your leader will be


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  1. @Submitted by Porridgeboy

    {The member base of the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) seems to have gone on a campaign to assassinate the character of pollster Peter Wickham}

    Porrige you speaking of Wickham the person Wikileaks fingered as an informant for the Americans. In days gone by he would be known as a traitor. You talking about Wickham the fiery advocate for the legalisation of homosexuality and same sex marriage? Porridge in our society Wickham is doing a damn good job of assasinating his own character.


  2. It would seem that the DLP has engaged people to tell it what it wants to hear but that is not surprising if you listen to the Prime Minister. He appears to be a bit delusional or forgetful. He is quoted in the Sunday Sun as saying,

    “I have heard Errol Barrow criticized as not being a leader, I have heard Erskine Sandiford criticized…I have heard David Thompson more harshly criticized than anybody else…”

    Freundel must recall that he was one of Thompson’s harshest and most venomous critics. Freundel can’t be losing it too!


  3. Porridgeboy you sound like a clone of Peter Wickham.


  4. @watching

    It would seem that you asked and answered your own question.


  5. Watching

    Even if all you said about Wickham damaging his character is true, you must admit that his polls have proven to be accurate. I would therefore suggest that you separate the other personas from Wickham the pollster. You may find that the DLP might still have time to turn around the situation for the good of this country. Freundel might not be ideal but I fear the alternatives from within and without his party. So stop trying to kill the messenger and listen to the message.


  6. All Fumble Stuart has to do is step aside… Simple simple simple …


  7. The Democratic Labour Party has NO chance of winning under Stuart, NO chance. So remove him as head and at least there will be a chance with someone else, anyone else … (I have my preference …)


  8. You don’t have to buy into Peter Wickham’s poll to know that the electorate is anxious to kick the DLP out of government. Just go on the streets and ask the first person you meet. The most likely answer will be, “wait you one of these people that going to put this government out of power too?” People are just waiting for the moment. The only way it will not be a clean sweep will be if the boys spend money — which they will to buy votes as they did last time. Let me tell you it is “big Business” these days. But I hear that they will take the money and vote them out anyway! What a state Barbados is in: corrupt to the hilt. But, the DLP will be removed. The poll say so and de people in the street say so.

  9. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Hugo Chavez is returned to power in Venezuela. One more term for him. This is in spite the polls up to late last week claiming that it was going to be a very tight race between Hugo and his right wing opponent.

    The results, which matter most, showed that the polls were just a lot of baloney.

    This can not be very comforting for the Barbados Labour Party and their supporters, especially onion bags.

  10. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    I keep saying that there is danger in counting your chickens before they are hatched.

    The Barbados Labour Party made that same mistake before the last elections and they have not learned anything in the last four years or so.

    They are counting their chickens even before the eggs are laid!

  11. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Miss Maureen Holder’s remarks made complete sense.

    We all need someone as balanced as she is.

    Keep up the good work Miss Maureen Holder.


  12. Carson C. Cadogan did you not read Lowdown on Friday?

  13. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right! Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right!

    @BAFBFP

    Once you have tripped “the light fantastic” a little stroll in the park will never let you get to that height again, or in terms that you would be more familiar with, once you have been embraced and loved by a Brazilian woman, all dis inferior Bajan po po is only vex you. Fumble, having seen the lights of Llaro Court, and having continued to fuc* the Bajan people, WILL NOT RELINQUISH the reigns of BIM, even though it is the only thing, barring OSA passing, that will give the DLP a fighting chance.

    “Do as i say, and not as i do” is a phrase attributed to Demosthenes and while not seeking to absolve PW of any of his perceived sins, would rather focus on the veracity of what he as a proficient polster has been able to call time and time again – the winner in elections.

    The problem with small minded men, small in minds and stature, note how few of the DLP are taller than 4ft 10inches!! is that their Napoleonic natures permeates all of their actions. Possibly short penises too, but such is the affliction and impact on their self esteem that the do not suffer dissent kindly and lash out at any perceived opinion that is contrary to their own.

    Now doan get me wrong OSA struck out the same way at David Ellis when he was in the stirrups and yes he is a short man too, it would appear like if the DNA of the short men says that their head is too close to their ass for them to be able to talk sense. Remember Julian Rogers?

    Which brings me to Electrolux.

    This is a time tested vacuum cleaner that even after all these years sucking up dust etc still is a leader in the market.

    Ms. Holder is a good Electrolux machine sucking up to the DLP, almost said sucking DEM but that would have a bad connotation and would be deemed sexist by certain BU readers.

    Hold onto to the CBC mike, and suck it good, no teeth please… cause if you use your teeth and show dat you ent fraid of you masters DEM, you gone through de eddoes too.


  14. Here is the article Hants:

    THE LOWDOWN: Bee or Dee, it’s up to we

    THE LOWDOWN: Bee or Dee, it’s up to we
    By Richard Hoad | Fri, October 05, 2012 – 12:00 AM

    I’ve never taken a poll. Don’t think I could. Peter Wickham handles them with ease. To each his own.

    The SUNDAY SUN headline did grab me though: 6% Swing. I figured they were finally going to swing at least six per cent of those murderers in Dodds. I was wrong.

    Maybe the poll came at a bad time. In all, 99.7 per cent of my correspondents commented on the “camel toe” pictures in the SATURDAY SUN. None mentioned the poll.

    Wickham manages to be both a political commentator who doesn’t hide his personal preferences and a pollster, without conflict of interest. He’s obviously sweet on Chris Sinckler; not keen on Freundel or Owen. Owen did lampoon him in a hilarious YouTube video, implying that political commentators deliberately try to sway public opinion.

    I couldn’t be that impartial. I recall doing lengthy surveys for the Ministry of Agriculture. After doing a few, and realizing how many more there were left, I got to hustling the interviewees with suggested answers.

    “Leading the witness”, I believe lawyers call it.

    http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/the-lowdown-bee-or-dee-its-up-to-we/

  15. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right! Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right!

    @Carson C

    What part of “rigged elections” and Chavez you can’t understand? You feel the company that was awarded the millions of bolivars stupid enough to let de real electronic votes show the true vote in venezuela? And then live where? You like you forget Ralph Gonzales and Tom Adams? But i forgive you doah Oldtimers setting in earlier than usual. I should not have said that, at 80, whu ent meet yuh ent pass you yet. I tek it back.

  16. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    I read Lowdown on friday.

  17. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    When things dont go your way you say that the elections are rigged?

    Is that what the Barbados Labour Party will say when they find themselves on the opposition benches for another five years?

  18. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    I can hear Seethru now after the next defeat at the hands of the Democratic Labour Party, ” man Pickham(seethru’s favorite name for Peter Wickham) say that we did gine win de elections, wuh went wrong, dis mean dat I all wash up now, this cant be happening?’

  19. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right! Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right!

    @ Carson C.

    Let us make a bet dennn. I bet you $100 dat de DLP gine get beat resoundingly dis general election.

    I was gine give lasley de money to hold but it would be hard fuh me to collect my $200 in winnings when he get extradite and lock up in Amurica when de BLP get in and going wid Owen get Mottley to sign de papers as de nex Attorney General.

    I tell you wha i gine do. I gine put my $100 bill under Nelson statue left foot tomorrow and you can put you money unner he lef foot till de night uh elections and since only me and you know bout dis arrangement (dat is whu @ de body name does do – mek we discussion private) when i win i gine go an get my money.

    Now you could put you money down dey as early as tomorrow and effin you money disappear den you and i know dat it gots to be David from BU.

  20. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    I will have to pass.

    I really dont like robbing the needy. That is for the Barbados Labour Party to do.


  21. Having read the article it’s clear to me that the writer was speaking to the credibility of the pollster base on the results of previous polls. It boggles the mind how some die-hard DLP’s can create spin for they own political posturing .

    Carson C. Cadogan: – (Miss Maureen Holder’s remarks made complete sense.) I am sure you inadvertently left off the Non from Sense, because her comments made complete nonsense.

    How can you in all seriousness, blatantly criticize a professional poster who has shown over the years that his predictions have proven true. I personally think she is grandstanding. However, to use my father slogan “time longer than rope”.

  22. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    “blatantly criticize a professional poster”

    So he is a sacred cow now?

    Or you Barbadso Labour Party people are so desperate for power that you would believe anyone.

    Let me make a suggestion to you BLP jokers, how about conducting another GEORGE BELLE/CHAPO poll?

    Let us wait for the results of that.

  23. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Is this the same Peter Wickham who said that the Stevenson King Governmemt in St. Lucia would be returned with a comfortable majority?

    I could be wrong but I think that Steven’s party now forms the opposition in St. Lucia.

  24. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Just remember that Seethru is on his hat-trick of defeats at the hands of the Democratic Labour Party.

    The Democratic Labour Party whipped him twice. He was beaten even worse in the bye election in St. John than he was in the general election.

  25. HONESTY AND MORALS vs Corruption and someone who wants to legalise Homosexuality Avatar
    HONESTY AND MORALS vs Corruption and someone who wants to legalise Homosexuality

    Owen Arthur desperately distances himself from arrangements for the new prison – Aug 2011

  26. HONESTY AND MORALS vs Corruption and someone who wants to legalise Homosexuality Avatar
    HONESTY AND MORALS vs Corruption and someone who wants to legalise Homosexuality

    Gline Clarke With Racist Undertones Speaking On Behalf of the BLP During the 2011 Budget Debate

  27. HONESTY AND MORALS vs Corruption and someone who wants to legalise Homosexuality Avatar
    HONESTY AND MORALS vs Corruption and someone who wants to legalise Homosexuality

    From the lips of the great regional Caribbean integrationist. What a hypocrite now exposed in a moment of desperation for all to see. He is no longer the champion of the CARICOM Single Market and Economy (CSME). A sick and futile attack on Mrs. Mara Thompson.


  28. HONESTY AND MORALS vs Corruption and someone who wants to legalise Homosexuality IS REALLY ac….and Carson is another JOKE…..two clowns asinine attempts for the losing DLP….whalossss

  29. HONESTY AND MORALS vs Corruption and someone who wants to legalise Homosexuality Avatar
    HONESTY AND MORALS vs Corruption and someone who wants to legalise Homosexuality

    Taken outside of BLP Headquarters on Roebuck Street, Dale Marshall & Ronald Toppin left moments before (10:37 am) to go to Governor General to remove Mia Mottley as Leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition for Barbados.


  30. BOTH OF YOU SUCKS and should go to bed.


  31. Party hacks mek mah laugh … the simpletons. I would burn them all …!


  32. @ Carson C. Cadogan:- wow I was speaking about the reputation of an individual, a person like you and I who is working to make a living. I had no idea you wanted to take the discussion into the gutter, so make room for me.

    Do you really understand what is going on in this country? People are suffering and I mean suffering real BAD, lending institutions are reposing vehicles almost daily, homes are being put up for auction weekly, check the newspapers.

    Working people have to decide which bill to pay each month, it is now the norm for utilities bills to be in arrears, families are separated because the head of some households are unable to support they families, women are going back to they mother’s home.

    Under this administration they seem to be no spirit left in the people to fight. Stores owners are closing the doors. I went over to a store which sell tiles in the warrens area and to my dismay that outlet is closed. The owner said to me these are very difficult and hard times. He was however adamant that there will be change and he will be back very soon.

    Have a look in the village shops, you can run rats through them, hardly anything on the shelves they too are crying out for help. So please Carson tell me, how much longer can we go through this.

  33. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Chavez re-elected in Venezuela

    By Caribbean News Now contributor

    CARACAS, Venezuela — Hugo Chavez was re-elected Venezuelan president on Sunday with 7,444,082 votes counted thus far, according to the Venezuelan National Electoral Council.

    The number of votes in favour of Chavez represents 54.42 percent of all 13,667,934 valid votes. This means that Chavez beat his rival Henrique Carpriles by a margin of nearly 10 points. Capriles garnered 44.97 percent (6,151,544 votes), the president of the National Electoral Council, Tibisay Lucena, announced in a press conference after the vote counting. The margin of victory gives Chavez a strong democratic mandate until 2018.

    Lucena stressed the massive turnout at the polls, which totalled 80.94 percent, was one of the largest participations by the people in an election over the past decades in Venezuela.

    It is a pity that Barbados did not tkae advantade of Petro caribe.

  34. Freundel is a Good Prime Minister Avatar
    Freundel is a Good Prime Minister

    @Waiting
    You mention dealing with alleged corruption and then with a straight face suggest people vote for lying Owen Arthur instead of a decent, genuine, caring Barbadian like Freundel Stuart.
    That is like telling an obese man to leave out fruits and vegetables and smoke more cigarettes and eat more greasy fry food.
    You got to be crazy.
    If Barbadians want to minimise or eliminate any sort of corruption, we need to make sure that Owen Arthur never gets power in this country again.

  35. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    firefox

    You are beginning to believe your own propaganda.

  36. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    New York — Opposition candidate Henrique Capriles maintained his lead over President Hugo Chavez in the latest survey from Consultores 21, a Caracas- based polling company, less than three weeks before elections.

    Capriles had 48.1 percent against 46.2 percent for Chavez in a poll taken at the end of August, Consultores 21 President Luis Christiansen said Tuesday at a conference hosted by the Council of the Americas in New York. The survey of 1,000 people taken in the last two weeks of August had a margin of error of 3.2 percentage points, Christiansen said.

  37. Piece Uh De Rock, Yeah Right!! Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock, Yeah Right!!

    @ Carson C

    “for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction ….” my point being that for every instance that you bring up to substantiate your point about polls being incorrectly states by polsters/pundits/political experts one could find a poll from one of the 178 countries worldwide that was called correctly.

    Polls are all gambits and bets hypothecated by men, based on purported scientific fact and collated data, an educated call which does not flow from Omnipresence, Omniscience and Omnipotence.

    @Honesty and Morals

    Re OSA and his attack on Mara Thompson i would ask you to view the Freudian slip OSA makes about Jamaica and Barbadian as his slowly addling mind remembers Beverley his ex. You cannot and must not put too much credence on anything that the rum bibber sayeth, he as Tonto from Lone Ranger says of de white man in movies “he speak with forked tongue…”

    It is a real pity though that even though Fumble is a poor politician, incapable of marshalling the DLP forces around him, and/or inspiring the Bajan population in these hard times that there is hope, that we as a people are incapable of finding 30 men or women like Fumble who, with all that is said about him, can never be castigated for being a womanizer (like Noel, the other one who fix he teeth at 60 nor MM, Stinklar, Boyce etc)

    Peradventure my Lord and God, if i should find but 20 who serve the Lord in this Sodom or Gomorra wilt Thou destroy it??

    “Nothing changeth under the sun”, we are all crafted in the sin of the First Adam, sinful and frail “all is vanity and vexation of the spirit” ….. but this too shall pass.


  38. BAF Party hacks mek mah laugh … the simpletons. I would burn them all

    ac

    Me Too!

  39. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Piece Uh De Rock, Yeah Right!!

    Man dont get all hot and sweaty, I believe in polls too.

    I am simply waiting for the Barbados Labour Party to commission another GEAORGE BELLE/CHAPO poll.

    That will be the poll which would tell me what is and what isn’t. That is the one I am waiting on.

    Can you tell me when it is coming out?


  40. To inject some sanity into the political talk going back on forth. Didn’t Ministers Inniss and Kellman in their post-poll feedback suggest that the poll should be taken as a wakeup call and for members to get out and about and do some work? For DLPites to denounce the poll just smacks of denial to those looking on.


  41. Maureen on CBC Morning Bdos …now…same ole same ole…” Poll Flawed”..Doug begs her to reconsider….LOL


  42. Carson C. Cadogan | October 8, 2012 at 11:50 PM |
    Is this the same Peter Wickham who said that the Stevenson King Governmemt in St. Lucia would be returned with a comfortable majority?

    I could be wrong but I think that Steven’s party now forms the opposition in St. Lucia.
    ————————————–
    THE SAME THING GWINE HAPPEN WITH FREUNDEL STUART AND THE DLP —DAH IS WUH !

    OPPOSITION BENCHES –rah r ah rah


  43. Mr Wickham will find that he is his own worst enemy . If he is to be regarded as a professional pollster HE CANNOT CONTINUE AS A TALK SHOW HOST PUSHING THE IDENTICAL VIEWS WHICH THE POLLS EXPRESSE EVEN BEFORE THE POLL RESULTS ARE KNOWN . Where this happens , persons are justified in questioning his professionalism ; it has nothing to do with whether his polls have proven over time to be correct; many persons who are not pollsters have consistently predicted the outcome of elections WITH ACCURACY. Mr Wickham will therefore have to consider his role as a talk show host where he is prone to getting into personal exchanges with certain interest groups and where his impartiality can be questioned . For example , the widely held view among callers is that Wickham has a personal dislike for PM Stuart ; he recently confirmed this when he unwisely pronounced recently ” Mr Stuart dont like me and I dont like he either ” . Mark you I cannot recall it ever being said that Mr Stuart has ever publicly expressed a dislike for Mr Wickham ; he is too wise and mature a person to make such an outrageous utterance . But Wickham on the other hand has made his personal dislike officially and publicly known. Certainly this must cloud his thinking in any matter in which PM Stuart is involved and upon which he is forced to comment . The same attitude has been displayed on a number of issues about which Mr Wickham has expressed his personal views and displayed a certain level of intolerance with callers who have expressed opposing views . Maybe he will mature in time .


  44. @Puzzled!!

    Agree with your comment to the extent that Wickham has harmed his reputation by being as strident as he is about the subjects he polls. However in his defense this has been his MO leading up to the last general election and he attracted the anger of Arthur on the campaign trail for his effort. Also you must be aware Wickham does private polling which would put him in a position to speak to issues based on data not yet in the public domain?

  45. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Puzzled !! | October 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM |
    “.. Mark you I cannot recall it ever being said that Mr Stuart has ever publicly expressed a dislike for Mr Wickham ; he is too wise and mature a person to make such an outrageous utterance…”

    That remark is most puzzling. So Mr. Stuart is too wise and mature a person? Is he also a wise and mature politician?
    Just to jog your memory Mr. Stuart expressed unswerving loyalty to Leroy Parris describing him in the most glowing adulatory of terms in his inimitably sanctimonious style.
    ‘The estimable gentleman is my friend and not a leper. He is a person of outstanding abilities, the consummately successful business man in charge of a thriving company making a significant difference to the financial lives of many Barbadians and those in the wider region. He is a genuine role model worthy of adulation and imitation in all aspects of his persona.’
    It’s always said that a person’s morality can be determined by the company (friends or pals) he keeps since birds of a feather tend to sleep together. Is that the reason we are seeing no traction on the CLICO report and action to resolve this Thompson millstone the PM is hoping will just drop off the DLP government’s back?

    Now if you, Puzzled, can unravel that conundrum of wisdom and maturity in our chameleon of a PM we should be most grateful.

  46. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    When I said this:-

    Bridgetown business doing well, shareholders very happy.

    millertheanunnaki(neitherB norD) said that”-

    “Bridgetown business doing well, shareholders very happy.”

    Well! Well! Well!
    The end of the world is nigh!
    A true yellow ac double! Liar Extraordinaire!”

    Now Ms. Anne Reid, CEO of the Barbados Private Sector Association(BFSA) said:-

    ” We are in exciting times and when we have come out of these challenging times we will realise that what we are doing now will provide a sure foundation for further economic growth in Barbados,”

    Now let the vilification of Anne Reid begin, a-la-Maureen Holder.


  47. @ Aarson
    We are in exciting times and when we have come out of these challenging times we will realise that what we are doing now will provide a sure foundation for further economic growth in Barbados,”
    *********************************
    You are another ass……do you want me to translate this for you ? here are some hints.

    challenging…..= difficult

    exciting………= not settled

    “whatever is done from here on in can have serious repercussions for us in the future… (not a positive message in anyway)


  48. It seems that you have a convenient memory.

    This situation is quite similar to what transpired prior to the last general elections; in that (1) Wickham was “dismissed” from CBC, (2) he returned to Brass Tacks as a moderator (3) he expressed his opinions based on the results of the 2007 polls in the similar manner he is doing presently (4) he gave his opinions on Arthur to the extent that BLP supporters were questioning the authenticity of his polls based on the fact that he was no longer at CBC, and wondered if the polls were biased because of that fact (which is now being suggested by DLP supporters).

    However, there were no calls at the time to have him removed from the call-in-program as is being suggested now.

    Before and leading up to the last general elections, Mr. Wickham as a host on Brass Tacks, expressed similar views of then prime minister, Owen Arthur. Wickham was extremely critical of Arthur, especially the arrogance he displayed during his third term. Wickham was also consistent in his view that based on the opinion polls and “word on the ground” the BLP would lose the elections. He offered his opinion on which strategies the BLP should pursue if they wanted a fourth term. It was also a widely held view by BLP supporters that he hated Arthur (as is being suggested by the DLP of Stuart).

    Just as is being done now by the DLP, the BLP and its supports were harsh in their criticisms of Wickham, and in the process, sought to discredit his polls (which they warmly welcomed the two previous elections) and tarnish his reputation. Those 2007 polls had persons like ac, Carson, Hants and the lot on this blog praising Wickham, because his poll was in their favour.

    “Mr Stuart has ever publicly expressed a dislike for Mr Wickham ; he is too wise and mature a person to make such an outrageous utterance…”

    Utter rubbish. Stuart is very offensive in his pronouncements to the extent that he uses his philosophical style of speaking to insults his opponents. It is basically what is implied in his speeches.

  49. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    I didnt realise that you were here onions, what do you think of Hugo’s victory?

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