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It is generally accepted civil servants in Barbados are technology averse. A litmus test would be to ask the question: how many government departments use teleconferencing facilities? The technology is not very expensive and can repay on the investment in short order by generating cost saving from reduced travel and overseas calls. There is also saving time if we were able to reduce the number of man hours civil servants spend on our highways and byways negotiating traffic to attend meetings.

A search of the Internet will toss-out millions of results of ways companies have adopted to reduce cost brought on by the world recession. One of the popular decisions is to introduce teleconferencing. For example, Bayer Corporation is using high-tech teleconferencing, or telepresence, to help cut the cost of travel; local and overseas. BU understands many private sector companies in Barbados have installed teleconferencing facilities in their board rooms to communicate with employees located in different offices. It seems a no-brainer if private sector companies see the benefit why shouldn’t the public sector? The civil service seems to be living up to the label appended to it by a former Prime Minister as an army of occupation.

The news this week that Ronald Jones is acting Prime Minister has raised the awareness in the eyes of some Barbadians to ask – why are so many government ministers and civil servants travelling at a time when government is printing money to pay civil servants salaries?  Yes we know managing government is a complex business in a modern world but the question must be asked, is all the travelling necessary?

Prime Minister Stuart, Foreign Minister McClean, High Commissioner to London Tony Arthur and the obligatory team of civil servants are in attendance at the Commonwealth Conference in Perth Australia this week. BU cannot speak to the benefits the Barbados government expects to derive from attending the Commonwealth conference Down Under, however, as citizens it is our right to be curious about how public officials are spending our tax dollars.   A plane ticket to travel to the land of Kangaroos drops at about S25,000. The High Commissioner is traveling from London so his ticket is cheaper at about $9,000. If we assume the PM and the Foreign Minister travelled with a minimum of two civil servants plane tickets alone rack up $100,000. We have not bothered to tabulate per diems, hotel accommodation and miscellaneous expenses.  You do the math!

It seems so silly that several leaders from Caricom will be attending and some arrangement could not have been made to ask the Caricom Secretariat or some other regional agency to represent the region, the upside being the sharing of cost while at the same time fostering a kindred spirit.

Should we repeat? We are operating in extraordinary times which call for our leaders not to be afraid to depart from the ordinary; our survival depends on it.


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  1. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ CCC:

    Man I missed you real bad!! You give me real jokes to laugh at.

    You still doubting my prognosis of a May 2012 or before general elections followed by an IMF occupation of Finance.

    Maybe you might have dreamed about a likely by-election (history has a way of repeating itself) that could force a state of having to kill 2 birds with one stone -all birds lovers forgive me.
    CCC man, I am not against the attendance of the PM at the conference because we are an established member and many Bajans have benefited from our membership. What we are against is the size of the contingent in these dire times. Remember it is not Bajan dollars you are spending but hard and scarce becoming foreign exchange.

    But since you are a “know-it-all” when it comes to DLP matters, did your boys kick up a fuss about the other party’s travel miles? Or were they reticent and acquiescent just waiting for their turn at the trough?

    Just asking! (I crave your indulgence, MR. JUST ASKING!!)


  2. @Farmz: “WHAT THE HELL IS HE SPENDING BDS$11,016.93 A DAY ON?

    If we had a Freedom of Information Act, we’d be able to find out.

    Hmmmmm….


  3. BAFBFP:
    Grace be with you.
    With all due respect, I sincerely respect your opinion with true benevolence.

  4. Errol Walton Barrow speaking from the grave Avatar
    Errol Walton Barrow speaking from the grave

    If the undermentioned is true Fruendal you should fire your advisors and the yourself.”How does the Prime Minister of Barbados justify an allotment of BDS$137 078.55 to cover the Prime Minister’s expenditure of which BDS$48 943.10 is for his first class round trip airline ticket. The remaining BDS$88,135.45 is related to accommodation, per diem and other trip expenses on an 8 day trip.
    WHAT THE HELL IS HE SPENDING BDS$11,016.93 A DAY ON?”


  5. @ Home

    As kind as you are, your mind set and tongue are destructive to true progress. There has always been a war on for the minds of stupid people, people who are easily influenced by the actions of those who only seek to exploit a very broken system … YOU ARE NOT HELPING… Sir, with respect …!


  6. @BAFBFP: “There has always been a war on for the minds of stupid people, people who are easily influenced by the actions of those who only seek to exploit a very broken system.

    So let us talk about this BAFBFP…

    How do we fix this problem?


  7. @BAFBFP… Just between you and me, and everyone else, I have reason to believe you can handle a hard question.

    Unlike most others.

    How do you answer?


  8. Sorry Chris,

    Was out walking my wife … The simple approach to answering your question is to admit that you can’t fix it! That is the unfortunate reality, and that is why I loath those who seek to exploit it and reason it away to be anything else other than what it really is, “the willful exploitation of stupidity”. We cannot engineer societies (such attempts are seriously frowned upon). Hitler is guilty of test driving the idea and culling is a luxury that is reserved for diseased animals.


  9. Freedom of Information will never be a reality.
    Expose on campaign financiers will never take place.
    Registration of Political Parties will never happen.
    Christianity and West Minister will never be outdone.


  10. How could this be the butt lickers of communist and socialist regimes demanding FOI .boy will wonders never cease . let me see them try calling for such in some of those dictatorship that they so happily adore.
    BTW how does one “WALK the wife”


  11. With a leash my Princess …


  12. @ac: “How could this be the butt lickers of communist and socialist regimes demanding FOI.

    Please forgive me if I am wrong, but did not the Great Late David Thompson promise FOI as part of his election platform?

    Was he a Communist Butt Licker?

  13. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ CH:
    “Was he a Communist Butt Licker?”
    What a goal!
    In cricket parlance , that is a hit for six right outside the grounds!!
    Deal with that, ac!!


  14. A ‘promise’ by a politician is never regarded as a promise.


  15. BAFBFP | October 28, 2011 at 6:27 PM |
    Was out walking my wife”

    White chick, black cropover chick or real real wife?


  16. David when are we going to discuss the “loss” of Foul Bay?


  17. Hans

    You do not walk Crop Over chicks, you wuk dem … LOL


  18. The hypocrisy of the DLP never ceases to amaze me. If this was done by the Bees, they would be having a field day. I agree that the PM should attend but the delegation should be limited.

    Why the hell Maxine McClean gone for? She is a waste of time. You know she only travels first class. I went to the UK last year and she was on the same flight, flying first class of course, she was on her way to Geneva at that time. Then a few weeks later she was flying first class again to the Shanghai expo and you know she went back to China with the PM earlier this year!

    To top it all off, Mr Kellman called in today to defend this travel. Yet Stetson Babb refused to ask him what did he achieve on his recent trip to South Korea or to whom did he talked to in the corridors as Kellman put it, to bring business to Barbados. To me it is like they have a sixth sense that they may lose the next election and they are trying to see the world at the taxpayers expense.

    May God help us!


  19. Talking about wasting money. I could not believe my eyes when I see the DPP with a new brand Mercedes.

    We are in a deep recession, the government cannot pay its bills, they owe the UWI $90 million, borrowing from the NIS every day, they cannot find money to give me my tax refund but the DPP can get a new Mercedes? The one he was driving looked pretty good to me. Yes, I know that his contract may say, he is entitled to a new car every three years but we are in a recession. Even if the government has a trade in deal with the dealers, this should have been rearranged in view of the economic conditions. But there again, the DPP is such a pompous and arrogant man that he would probably have said, my contract says I am entitled to a new car and I have to get it!

    Goodness me, this government goes from blunder to blunder. I await the press conference of Sinckler. I wonder why he always does these things when Stuart is away. He is just trying to divert attention and grab the Monday headline away from Owen Arthur. Plain and simple. why did he not have this press conference last week when the PM was still in Bim??? I wonder!!!


  20. @Prodigal Son | October 28, 2011 at 8:39 PM |
    To me it is like they have a sixth sense that they may lose the next election and they are trying to see the world at the taxpayers expense.

    May God help us!
    ********************************************************************
    Indeed!! DEM always knew that DEM would only be there for one term (or less) why do you think DEM have behaved as they have?


  21. @BU.David: “A ‘promise’ by a politician is never regarded as a promise.

    Really?

    Why?


  22. @Chris

    A promise by a politician is designed to play upon the expectations of the electorate i.e. win votes in the moment.

    When the moment is gone it is back to champing at the trough.


  23. @David: “A promise by a politician is designed to play upon the expectations of the electorate i.e. win votes in the moment.

    I remain a bit confused… I hate being confused…

    Why do the politicians get to lie when no one else is allowed to?


  24. This whole debate actually started when the PM died and the question was asked about how his wife was to be paid … as a back bencher or as the wife of an dead PM plus that of a back bencher.

    The point about the DPP is absolutely disgusting. Now will this be the case for all of the Judges as well?


  25. From before the last budget, I was saying, if our ruling government was serious about easing the economic crisis in Barbados, they need to set the example. They should have taken a 10 or 15% cut in salary and invite the opposition to accept a 5 or 10% cut,restrict the amount of travelling by doing tele-conferences, even when travelling fly economy class. What I’m seeing now is a government that don’t care much about it’s people but trying to see how much they can gain before the next general elections in case they lose.

  26. Who was that young chick in Sealey`s room did taxpayers pay for her Avatar
    Who was that young chick in Sealey`s room did taxpayers pay for her

    Denis Kellman and Richard Sealey trip to Costa Rica and Panama was a contingent of 28. Hope we will see benefits,


  27. A forum such the CHOG meeting requires the physical presence of representatives in a single location for more than one reason. Firstly, such a high level intrnational meeting requires formal protocol…teleconferencing is a bit too informal for such a meeting. Secondly, teleconferencing would be an inadequate medium for any meeting with such a large number of attendees.

    With regards to the delegation from Barbados, no more than three (including the PM) should be attending.

    Gradually more and more gov’t offices are using teleconferencing and less overseas travel. Invest Barbados is one such entity.


  28. To clarify the BU blog has not suggested that teleconferencing would have been an adequate replacement. Secondly to repeat there has been no significant take up of technology in any serious way in the civil service. Invest Barbados is a Statutory Board which by the nature of its job it is not surprising teleconferencing exist.


  29. @David who wrote:
    To clarify the BU blog has not suggested that teleconferencing would have been an adequate replacement. Secondly to repeat there has been no significant take up of technology in any serious way in the civil service. Invest Barbados is a Statutory Board which by the nature of its job it is not surprising teleconferencing exist.
    =================================
    My statement is directed at anyone who may think otherwise. . .so if the cap fits, wear it.

    Statutory boards also operate on tax payers’ money, and we’re talking about reducing cost by reducing overseas travel, therefore it is pointless to distinguish statutory boards from the civil service in this regard. To say that there has been so serious take up of technology in the civil service is erroneous. That statement would indicate that you’re speaking of technology in general rather than teleconferencing specifically.


  30. “Denis Kellman and Richard Sealey trip to Costa Rica and Panama was a contingent of 28. ”

    Jesus H C’rist! This is the reason, the ONLY reason for staying in public life … exploratory missions. I know of one CEO who was to go on pre-retirement leave in a couple of months and still found it necessary to jump on a plane to London on a fact finding mission!


  31. @Senor

    Statutory Boards are not considered for the purpose of general discussion part of the civil service.

    They are run by Boards.

    The heads of government departments are Permanent Secretaries.


  32. @BAFBFP

    As usual we filter all issues in a political lens. Many are agreeing there may be an opportunity to network to the benefit of Barbados. What is amazing is that many would not want citizens to question the objectives of the trip and whether it makes sense in the context where this government is cash trapped and operating in harsh economic times.

    On 29 October 2011 12:54, David wrote:

    > @Senor > > Statutory Boards are not considered for the purpose of general discussion > part of the civil service. > > They are run by Boards. > > The heads of government departments are Permanent Secretaries. > >


  33. @ David

    Your being familiar with my apolitical DNA aside, both the objectives and the size of the contingent are up are fair game.

    I must tell you though that with teleconferencing, each participant has a camera focused on him/her so any attempt at nodding off will be quickly spotted. Maybe this is a reason why it is not a popular initiative in the service … hmmm


  34. WHAT does cravee your indulgence, mean ?????

    WHY do you assume that I am male ???

    HAVE you seen the female bodybuilder from Jamaica originally who is guest posing in the local competition ???

    AM I to assume that you millerthe–‘ would call her a man too ???
    SHOULD I steupse???????

    JUST ASKING


  35. @ Prodigal son-To me it is like they have a sixth sense that they may lose the next election and they are trying to see the world at the taxpayers expense
    ====================================================
    Was there truth to the rumour about Billie Miller travelling via New York to get to St. Vincent.
    Just asking.
    Is there truth to the rumour the elite private sector big boys fly between plush homes on the Mediterranean and ,London and Argentina even as they price gouge and under pay poor black Bajans.
    Just asking.

  36. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ JUST ASKING:
    “Just asking! (I crave your indulgence, MR. JUST ASKING!!)”

    I was asking your permission to use your moniker in making a repartee to CCC. I was being polite not rude! Sorry if I address you in the wrong gender. I should have said Mr; Mrs; Miss or Miss; or plain old Just Asking!
    BTW, I like looking at “feminine-looking” women but a woman can do whatever she likes with her own body. Same applies to men, too! You agree, Jusk Asking?


  37. Watch the opening of the CHOGM 2011 Opening Ceremony, held at 10am WST in the Perth Exhibition and Convention Centre.


  38. I Have been informed that Mss McClean does not TNORMALLY TRAVELfirst class. Ckeck it out.


  39. As far as I am aware only heads of stated and PM’s can travel first class with Gov money.

    Only Senators are provided with a free female bed warmer in African countries … Senators, NOT ministers of any kind, even Prime!


  40. @David

    To clarify the BU blog has not suggested that teleconferencing would have been an adequate replacement.
    ***********************
    That is some serious back peddling you doing there; did you forget what you wrote or your subsequent remarks? You painted all Gov’t travel by Gov’t representatives including the PM’s attendance at CHOG with a broad brush and the Lemmings and political operatives predictably followed.

    I made some facetious remarks and you termed them “ridiculous” and threw in a comment about the overseas accommodation that the Barbadian representatives occupy. (Never mind that they are representing the Gov’t and people in Barbados and are expected to entertain or host their counterparts at various receptions).

    I can go on but I think you get my drift.


  41. Hants | October 28, 2011 at 8:33 PM |

    David when are we going to discuss the “loss” of Foul Bay?

    Since this is a “free” blog I will use it to pay tribute to the Barbados I used to knew. lol

    I remember going on Church excursions in leeward (wood ) and later transport board buses.
    River bay, Bath and Foul bay were the venues I went to in the 50s and early sixties.
    As a young man I picniked at Maycocks, Cove Bay,East coast road and Bathsheba.

    Over the years these beaches that were the Bank Holiday spots enjoyed by average Bajans are being targetted for Development.

    I don’t live in Barbados and unlikely to return to live there given that I am 59 years old.
    I will not attempt to suggest what modern day Bajans should or should not accept.

    I just want to say that it was a glorious privilege to grow up in Barbados enjoying all those beautiful places some of which will soon be “modernised” to provide “Pure Jobs” and luxury residences for Rich right people.


  42. 2 halsalls
    1 with a mathematical equation logo
    1 with a pink face (see white/black mixup thread)
    what a horrible face/thought


  43. @ CH &miller

    If the shoe fits wear it.


  44. The bill for the Bajans in Australia may be even higher, if our people are caught up in the QANTAS airline strike/ grounding,as news from Down Under is that 17 Commonwealth leaders are affected.


  45. Excursions and picnics at Foul Bay might soon done.

    let’s discuss eff any uh wunna k bout it.


  46. @Hants

    Stop flogging a dead horse. Bajans care nothing about such at this time.

  47. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Colonel Buggy:
    This might be an opportune time for CS and his in house supporters to call a meeting to select a new leader of the realm.
    I know you come from an environment where your leaders believe they represent the 2nd estate and any move to undermine the supremacy of the state by the commoners (3rd estate) would usually be dealt with by a swift show of military might. But this option is not recommended in this case. Just a change of horses!

  48. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Millertheanunnaki
    You wrote:
    “This might be an opportune time for CS and his in house supporters to call a meeting to select a new leader of the realm.”

    Sorry to disappoint you: it does not work like that. The Rt. Excellent Errol Barrow was no fool: he placed safeguards in the Constitution that such a situation could never succeed. Whenever the Prime Minister of Barbados leaves these shores, he leaves with the certain knowledge that he can’t be replaced by constitutional means.

    In order to remove the PM, the leader would have to inform the GG. At that point the GG must give the PM an opportunity to resign or call new elections. In any event an acting PM has all the powers of a substantive PM except the power to advise the GG to dissolve parliament and call elections. The substantive holder of the post of PM is like asbestos, can’t be fired between elections.


  49. Wunna pick up de PM in that picture that David post? Everybody else where sombre dark blue and dark grey … our boy in light grey, and at the back of the pack. I see significance in this


  50. David | October 29, 2011 at 8:24 PM |

    @Hants

    Stop flogging a dead horse. Bajans care nothing about such at this time.

    Ok David, But this Bajan cared about such when Owen Arthur and the BLP were in power.

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