The Moral Molecule: “Ye Shall Be As gods” – How Apotheosis is Science’s Last Attempt to Manipulate the Truth Behind Good and Evil

Submitted by Terence Blackett

The heart of man is desperately wicked – who can know it? Jer. 17:9

The year is 1066 AD. William (Duke of Normandy), later to be crowned King William 1 of England after his war and conquest of King Harold. After setting himself up as Regent – commissioned a survey of his realm and has the research findings compiled in a document called The Doomsday Book.

By royal decree – the survey legalized the confiscation of property, livestock, and anything of value in lieu of a taxation levy which would bring money into the Exchequer. The peasants, serfs and villagers across England rebelled – likening their experience to Judgment Day or the Day of Doom – hence the name given to the document.

King William subsequently died without the book being completed however; the book was used as the foundation for tax assessment during the medieval Middle Ages. Then in the 18th century, English jurist Sir William Blackstone used it as a voting register to decipher who was eligible to vote. And so for a 1000 years this document has been used to verify land ownership in Britain (TITLE), rights of passage and planning permission for the establishment of towns, hamlets, villages and even businesses.

A similar Doomsday Book called the HOLY BIBLE* holds the keys to The Ancient of Days – His decrees, laws, commands, and rules. Inscribed within this document are fundamental truths which determine the outcome of “ALL” of our lives but most importantly, it also shows the topography which exist between the forces of “GOOD” arrayed against the alliances of evil in a quantum cosmic battle (being fought here on earth) where “LIGHT” and darkness are vying for supremacy.

This battle is the final frontier of human duality – the eternal confluence between freewill and/or determinism. A 21st century battle where pseudo-philosophies have become the anthropocentric soteriology of man’s quest to divine salvation at his own hand; an apotheosis which answers the words of the Serpent in the Garden of Eden – “Ye shall be as gods”; a chronocentric bifurcation of epistemological truth housed in Scripture but now jettisoned to the wasteland of superstition to be replaced by a nouvelle form of socio-chemical Darwinism which seeks to manipulate the metaphysics of good v evil.

If intellectually honest – we must ask ourselves: are there forces behind acts of goodness as well as feats of colossal evil? How are these polarized opposites explained in the light of day? Is mankind deterministically bent towards “EVIL” as well as having the freewill to do major “GOOD” and if so why?

Day by day, the cosmic controversy between good and evil rages on with intense ferocity. In 1994, General Romeo Dallaire of Canada – the supreme Commander of the United Nations forces in Rwanda remarked that during the genocide “he had shook hands with the Devil”. A later commentary stated – “if anyone still dares to deny ‘SATAN’, they can meet me at the mass graves in Rwanda”. This is the unquestionable paradigm that “EVIL” presents which bears no logical human answer other than dark, sinister, satanic forces at work.

Time and space does not allow me the luxury to look at all the philosophical angles in this debate, however, I am sure that there will be strong arguments on both sides of the divide as the pillars of “GOOD” v evil stretch back to a primordial time when the “Tree of the Knowledge of Good & evil would adumbrate millennial ramifications for those that eventually would dwell on the earth. This argument has been the proverbial quagmire from which many have not yet emerged – battling in their own understanding to make sense of a simple, divinely spiritual explanation for the manifestation of “GOOD” v evil with all its connotations.

It would be extremely difficult to discuss an issue of such moral pertinence without flavouring the debate with what Scripture describes as the “ULTIMATE” choice made by man and the catastrophic results of the on-going choices that are made even today.

Good v evil is not easily understood after almost 6000 years of religious, philosophical, ideological, epistemological, political, social, psychological and now biological gestalt. There are however serious questions to answer in this ongoing debate.

Amongst others questions: Is the framework for morality based on our “freewill or are there outside esoteric and spiritual influences? Does our genetic makeup based on the concept of “determinism” decide whether we become evil or remain a good person all our lives? How do the structural effects of environmental conditioning again “determine” who we become in the light of our childhood socialization model? And finally, do mass murderers like Anders Breivik in Oslo, Norway several months ago, be attributed to biochemical and other factors beyond his control?

This article though controversial, looks at Dr. Paul Zak research findings and his methodological use of “Oxytocin” described in his book due to launch in 2012 entitled: The Moral Molecule: Vampire Economics and the New Science of Good and Evil which will be published sometime in 2012 by Dutton Press. The underlying premise of Dr. Zak’s research is found in the manipulation of a key chemical process within the human brain (OXYTOCIN) which would create the right environment for “LOVE”, empathy and other virtues which seem lacking in the vast swathe of persons with psychopathic tendencies – notwithstanding, the nebulous nature of human affairs and the interactions which often foment into outright chaos and anarchy.

The brief of our short discourse within the public square of human opinion is not to dissect Dr. Zak’s findings but to amplify a more important issue as was cited early last year with the finding of Dr. Craig Venter and the supposed creation of synthetic life and the ramifications that holds going forward. Dr. Zak has however designed a pharmaceutical product in the form of a nasal spray with goes directly to the brain and will produce the necessary oxytocin levels needed to create the desired human response.

But what if it were possible to prescribe a “moral” pill for narcissists, megalomaniacs, serial killers, paedophiles and others as a way of circumventing possible future evil actions? Most would argue that would be a good thing! But what about the other side of the coin? Could this kind of biological science be used as a form suppression by governments and pharmaceutical giants in their quest for civil obedience and immoral compliance? And to what extent does the biochemical manipulation of human species affect our legal rights in issues of criminal law and the transgressionist areas of crime and punishment?

Researchers like Dr. Zak have produced empirically-based, chemically synthesized, foundational evidence that supports the possibility that the inherent human propensity for “EVIL” can be altered by the infusion of a drug or cocktail of drugs – in what some believe is further promulgation of the neoeugenics agenda with perceivable social disadvantageous repercussions. What is regrettable are the good intentions which mask future tyranny!

Written in the WORD* OF GOD* are [2] mysteries: “The mystery of godliness”; and “the mystery of INIQUITY”. We understand the word “mystery” to mean just that – “something that is difficult or impossible to understand or explain; the condition or quality of being secret, strange, or difficult to explain.” The Bible is clear on the mysterious nature of EVIL* – choosing to simply explain it as an “ENEMY”, an invisible “shadow”; the opposite of what is good, pure, holy and noble. The exegesis on this difficult subject has been the bone of contention for eons and men are still trying to see how best to create empirical scientific formulations to explain something that is deeply and profoundly spiritual transcending the boundaries of scientific or moral human existence.

Most of us refuse to see that the titanic struggle between the forces of “GOOD” v evil harps back to a cosmological time that is oblivious to the faculty of human cognizance and understanding. No rational explanation is forthcoming without a clear interpretation of the Bible – especially within the light of the intergalactic war which took place in Heaven.

Lucifer – that fallen angel became the cognitive power that man would ascribe to. In the process, Lucifer (now SATAN) the epitome of evil has been able to successfully deceive the world according to 19th century poet Charles-Pierre Baudelaire, “persuade us into believing that he does not exist” while the proponents of this self-eviscerating belief system called “Evolutionary Science” (Atheism in its many forms) portrays God as the Gnostic hypostasis of the Archons – a cruel, abusive, repressive principle of superstition that limits man from transfiguring and transmogrifying into “gods” themselves.

Hence the realignment and reiteration of Pythagoras’ mantra that “man is the measure of all things” belies the philosophical and metaphysical construct of this belief system that is construed as socio-political utopianism. A philosophy of determinism where man has become the arbiter of his own moral law and is able to decide what is good & evil outside of the Word of God – where man is now beyond the gamut of those said paradigms and is essentially his own “god” – for once he is able to reconceptualize good and evil according to his own self-interest and agenda – soon enough “evil” itself becomes non-existent.

C. S Lewis in his piece on “EVIL AND GOD” (7th February 1941) suggest that “since neither ‘mechanism’ nor ‘emergent evolution’ will hold water, we must choose in the long run between some monotheistic philosophy or the dualism between a single, good, almighty source of being, and two equal uncreated, antagonistic Powers, one good and the other bad.”

Lewis believes that “the metaphysical difficult is that two Powers, the good and the evil do not explain each other. For if evil has the same kind of reality as good, the same autonomy and completeness, our allegiance to good becomes the arbitrarily chosen loyalty of a partisan. Theories of value demand that that good should be original and evil a mere perversion; that good should be the tree and evil the ivy; that good should be able to see all around evil (as when sane men understand lunacy) while evil cannot retaliate in kind; that good should be able to exist on its own while evil requires the good on which it is parasitic in order to continue its parasitic existence.”

However, Dr. Michael Tooley provides a slight philosophical variation to C. S Lewis in the structural application between how the axiological v deontological paradigms posited within the debate between good and evil must be elucidated. For Tooley, “the problem, in short, is that any axiological formulation of the argument from evil, as it stands, is incomplete in a crucial respect, since it fails to make explicit how a failure to bring about good states of affairs, or a failure to prevent bad states of affairs, entails that one is acting in a morally wrong way.”

“Moreover, the natural way of removing this incompleteness is by appealing to what are in fact controversial ethical claims, such as the claim that the right action is the one that maximizes expected value. The result, in turn, is that discussions may very well become sidetracked on issues that are, in fact, not really crucial – such as, for example, the question of whether God would be morally blameworthy if he failed to create the best world that HE* could.” Something which feeble men use as an argument to supposedly discredit His existence.

“The alternative to an axiological formulation is a deontological formulation. Here the idea is that rather than employing concepts that focus upon the value or disvalue of states of affairs, one instead uses concepts that focus upon the rightness and wrongness of actions, and upon the properties – right-making properties and wrong-making properties – that determine whether an action is one that ought to be performed, or ought not to be performed, other things being equal. When the argument is thus formulated, there is no problematic bridge that needs to be introduced connecting the goodness and badness of states of affairs with the rightness and wrongness of actions.” This philosophical bridge must be crossed in order to have a proper understanding of the differences inferred.

As men like Dr. Paul Zak may have good intentions in their research, historical evidence based on the science of eugenics has done nothing to improve mankind’s ability to live harmoniously with eachother. Moreover, our history is replete with diabolical examples of human carnage caused by our inability to stave off the primordial effects of evil in our world.

In conclusion, the (1996) Richard Dimbleby Lecture: Science, Delusion and the Appetite for Wonder by Richard Dawkins, remarked that “If you want to do evil, science provides the most powerful weapons to do evil; but equally, if you want to do good, science puts into your hands the most powerful tools to do so. The trick is to want the right things, and then science will provide you with the most effective methods of achieving them. But perhaps the rest of us could have separate classes in science appreciation, the wonder of science, scientific ways of thinking, and the history of scientific ideas, rather than laboratory experience…” I concur wholeheartedly with Dawkins as far as the limitations of science goes in its quest to make the world (materially) a better place based on equity and fairplay. What science (SADLY) is unable to do is to regulate man’s virtues or his psychopathologies. That domain is outside of the realm of empirical science – but borders on the metaphysical (yet that too is deficient to solve the ills of human-kind because God is the only ONE* source of true spiritual, moral and aesthetic transformation) when it comes to how good we are or how evil our hearts have become.

HE* alone can make a sinner a SAINT* and a saint* fit for glory!

0 thoughts on “The Moral Molecule: “Ye Shall Be As gods” – How Apotheosis is Science’s Last Attempt to Manipulate the Truth Behind Good and Evil


  1. This article is written at a level what leaves me as uninformed as I was prior to my reading (much of it). ’tis beyond my understanding and significantly above my pay grade. I doth beg of the author that he use terminology that is interpretable to even the simplest of us. I would fully understand any inability to make this simpler. It is my feeling though that the hero of one assembly of stories mentioned by him was quite good at that.


    • @Francis

      Can appreciate how you are challenged:

      “Ye shall be as gods”; a chronocentric bifurcation of epistemological truth housed in Scripture but now jettisoned to the wasteland of superstition to be replaced by a nouvelle form of socio-chemical Darwinism which seeks to manipulate the metaphysics of good v evil.

      🙂

      @TB

      Are you equating evil i.e. your reference to Rwanda, to Satan the figurehead of evil in the Bible?


  2. @David.

    ” The anthropocentric soteriology of man’s quest to divine salvation at his own hand; an apotheosis which answers the words of the Serpent in the Garden of Eden – “Ye shall be as gods”; a chronocentric bifurcation of epistemological truth”. This part of TB paragraph sound like when I am reading a topic in an academic journal . Believe you me I gasped for air at times when reading TB articles. To be fair to TB though, at least I get to upgrade my vocabulary . But I have always learned that to be a good communicator you have to keep it simple.

    @TB. Not being picky but you have assigned one of my favorite quotes” man is a measure of everything” to the wrong author. It was not Pythogoras who said those word but Protagoras. Anyway, evolutionary psychology and biology along with neuroscience and genetics are already cracking the code on why some among us has a proclivity for evil deeds.One does not have to appeal to the divine or the bible for explanation. The bottom line is that we are animals just like those in the wild and are ruled by our primordial instinct.


    • @Forthyacres

      TB is married to his way of delivering the message, obviously where he is currently pitched his audience becomes very small.


  3. Oxytocin, from what little I understand about this great chemical, that Almighty God Created us with, is especially significant, when a Husband, gives his Wife, a genuine, warm, gentle, LOVING* Hug, here, Oxytocin is released in her brain, giving her, a sense of warmth, and well-being, comfort, as God created us to relate to them.

    Interestingly, I also learned recently, on a TV program, that a mother Cat, having given birth to her Kittens, eats all of the after-birth, and I always wondered why does she do this? Well, again, our Creator, Almighty God, has also put this Hormone ‘Oxytocin’ in the after-birth, of each kitten, so that when mother Cat, who is now exhausted, drained, from giving birth, to 3-6 kittens, having eaten the after-birth, which gives her a sense of warmth, calmness, and serenity, she then relaxes, allowing these beautiful kiittens, to nurse Mum, ONLY an Intelligent, Loving, Omnipotent, Creator could do this, even for an animal!

    BTW, Evil, badness, is NOT something in itself, it IS* the ABSENSE of God’s LOVE, and GOODNESS, as DARKNESS, is not somthing, it is the absence, of LIGHT, as COLD, is the absence of HEAT. so that, whenever mankind, turns away from God, in Jesus Christ, he becomes Evil, Cold, ruthless, Godless!


    • @TB

      You misunderstood the comment. If it is the concern of us all then you as the sender must make sure as many of the receivers get it, communication 101.


  4. @ ZOE*

    “Oxytocin, from what little I understand about this great chemical, that Almighty God Created us with, is especially significant, when a Husband, gives his Wife, a genuine, warm, gentle, LOVING* Hug, here, Oxytocin is released in her brain, giving her, a sense of warmth, and well-being, comfort, as God created us to relate to them….”

    IN THAT CASE I MUST BE TRULY GRATEFUL FOR MY OXYTOCIN* LEVELS… LOL!!!


  5. @ DAVID
    “Are you equating evil i.e. your reference to Rwanda, to Satan the figurehead of evil in the Bible?”

    Who else can we attribute such unspeakable HATRED* and vile atrocities to, other than him?

    Is there some form of psycho-BABBLE* that scientists can employ to justify such heinous, frenzied murders?

    It would have been the same thing had I cited HIZLER* (spelling intended) or Mussolini, or Stalin, or Pol Pot to name a few…

    Outside of the BIBLE* there is no philosophical way to explain EVIL* in any form it may choose to raise its ugly head!!!


  6. @ DAVID

    COMMUNICATION 101* is not an exact “SCIENCE” as it is speculative and often open to vast migratory patterns of interpretation!!!

    In this case, I fully understood the import of the comment made but chose to bypass the “SUPPOSITION” and to “AIM” at the bulls-eye which are the FACTS* that matters – i.e that GOOD v EVIL has become the arithmetical formula which explains every conundrum we are facing as human beings on this planet in the 21st century… (so for myself and others – this goes further than a mere philosophical debate)…

    If we are not in DENIAL* – we must admit that “FROM THE POLITICS OF REGRESSION, TO RELIGIOUS POLARIZATION, TO SOCIOECONOMIC FRAGMENTATION, TO SOCIAL COLLAPSE, TO A WORLD BEING TURNED UP-SIDED DOWN AND NO ONE HAVING ANY ANSWERS TO THE MULTIPLICITY OF DANGEROUS CHALLENGES WE FACE” – answers are required!!!

    Can I get you to concur on the above?


  7. If I were singularly, a SOLITARY* entity occupying this open source platform – then I would have no choice but to agree even on the premise of DELIVERY* but God has made us “ALL” unique and our faces are as different as our thumb prints, so I am NOT* trying to fit into anyone else mold as I have longed recognized my own individual uniqueness…

    Be that as it may – let us look at some of what is ruminating in our world because of the heightened prevalence of EVIL* and its resultant aftermath:

    [14] SIGNS THAT THE COLLAPSE OF OUR MODERN WORLD HAS ALREADY BEGUN*…

    #1 – Tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes and tsunamis – At first it seemed like a fluke; but now it’s a pattern. The weather is becoming increasingly extreme. Over 120 tornadoes recently struck the U.S. Midwest. Texas is on fire and suffering through an extreme drought. And where there aren’t fires and droughts, there are floods. This is only the beginning… watch for more freak weather over the next 18 months.

    #2 – The silence of the bees – Colony Collapse Disorder continues to accelerate across North America. We already know it’s being caused in part by chemical pesticides (and possibly worsened by GMOs), but the chemical industry is engaged in a full-on cover-up to deny this truth while the pollinators of our world suffer a devastating population collapse. (http://www.naturalnews.com/028218_p…)

    #3 – The failure of nuclear science – The Fukushima catastrophe proves one thing: Scientists are dangerously arrogant in their planning of large-scale projects, and they fail to account for the awesome power of Mother Nature. Nuclear science promised us clean, green energy — but now it has delivered a silent, invisible poison that’s infecting our planet.

    #4 – The vicious pursuit of Wikileaks – In an age of such rampant deceit, there is no room for the truth. So those who tell the truth (Wikileaks) are viciously pursued as if they were criminals.

    #5 – The rise of the medical police state – The armed SWAT raids on Maryanne Godboldo in Detroit are only the beginning (http://www.naturalnews.com/032091_M…). The truth is that the medical system uses guns to force its vaccines and chemotherapy onto children and teens across America. The medical system has become so utterly useless, corrupt and dangerous that it must actually invoke guns in peoples’ faces just to “convince” people to take its medicine. This is a gunpoint-enforced medical monopoly that exists as a threat to our health and our freedoms.

    #6 – The increasing frequency of food shortages and crop failures – Notice the spike in food prices? That’s just the beginning: Food prices will continue to skyrocket in the years ahead due to extreme weather, the loss of pollinators and the global contamination of crops by GMOs. Real food is becoming increasingly scarce in our world. You might want to think about starting a home garden…

    #7 – The runaway destruction of the world by energy companies – The radioactive fallout from Fukushima isn’t the only way in which energy companies are destroying our world: Don’t forget about the Deepwater Horizon and the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico — a spill that isn’t over, by the way. They’re still spraying Corexit in the Gulf one year later!

    #8 – The continued GMO contamination of our planet – This may be the worst chapter in the coming collapse: The widespread genetic pollution of our planet through GMOs. This is a crime against nature and against humanity. It is a “gene spill” that may never be contained as it spreads its deadly DNA across the world’s food crops, leading to crop failures and starvation (http://www.naturalnews.com/032167_g…). The use of GMOs is the closest thing to “Satanic” that you’ll find in modern agriculture. The agenda behind this is pure evil.

    #9 – The tyranny and criminal crackdowns targeting real food (raw milk) – When you can’t even sell honest farm food to your neighbors without being targeted and arrested by the cops, something is terribly wrong with the world. But this is happening today, all across America. Now the feds are even targeting the Amish! (http://www.naturalnews.com/029322_r…)

    #10 – The escalation of the counterfeiting of the money supply – In a failed economic system approaching collapse, the moronic leaders can only think of “solutions” that actually accelerate their own downfall. The runaway counterfeiting of money by the Federal Reserve (with its “quantitative easing” and other counterfeit methods) is a classic sign that the end of our current system is fast approaching. The economic insanities are obvious to anyone who can still do math.

    #11 – The plummeting intelligence of the masses – One of the most disturbing signs that we’re already in the collapse is the great dumbing-down of the masses. The drooling, CNN-watching television zombies who dominate our landscape offer absolutely nothing of value to the world. They are the “mindless consumers” who get vaccinated, watch television and eat processed, pasteurized junk food. They’re on psychiatric meds and believe everything the government tells them. Most of these people, of course, won’t make it through the collapse.

    #12 – The complete and utter fabrication of the mainstream news – Much of the mainstream news is now utterly and completely fabricated these days: The reporting on Obama’s long-form birth certificate; the news about the war in Libya; the coverage of the economy and the U.S. debt… it’s all so utterly false and unbelievable that an intelligent person watching the news can’t help but explode with laughter. It is a sign of this collapse that the information sources relied upon by the masses are unable to report the truth anymore and must resort to weaving politically expedient fictions on everything from health care and medicine to the fate of the U.S. dollar itself.

    #13 – The ongoing pharmaceutical pollution of our world – Beyond the GMO contamination and the radiation contamination of our world, we are also experiencing the mass pharmaceutical contamination of our planet. It’s not just the pharma factories that dump their products into the rivers (http://www.naturalnews.com/025415_w…); it’s also the fact that well over half the population is now taking drugs almost daily, and those drugs pass right through their bodies and end up in the water supply where they contaminate the fish (http://www.naturalnews.com/025933.html). Even beyond that, the drugs end up in the human sewage sludge that’s packaged and sold as “organic soil!” (http://www.naturalnews.com/029504_o…)

    #14 – The radioactive contamination of the global food supply – Here’s one that’s really insidious: The global food supply is now contaminated with the radioactive fallout from Fukushima. We’re told the levels are “low,” but we’re not told the truth of how radioactive cesium isotopes persist in the food supply for centuries. How is the human race going to survive its exposure to CT scans, radioactive food, chest X-rays, TSA body scanners and even the secret DHS mobile X-ray vans that can penetrate your body with X-rays as you’re walking into a football stadium? The total radiation burden on the human race is now reaching a point of mass infertility. That may be the whole idea, actually.

    READ MORE: http://www.naturalnews.com/032258_economic_collapse_2012.html#ixzz1YOejtWLY


  8. Scientist Prove DNA Can Be Reprogrammed by Words and Frequencies…

    Russian biophysicist and molecular biologist Pjotr Garjajev and his colleagues explore the vibrational behavior of the DNA…

    THE HUMAN DNA IS A BIOLOGICAL INTERNET and superior in many aspects to the artificial one. Russian scientific research directly or indirectly explains phenomena such as clairvoyance, intuition, spontaneous and remote acts of healing, self healing, affirmation techniques, unusual light/auras around people (namely spiritual masters), mind’s influence on weather patterns and much more. In addition, there is evidence for a whole new type of medicine in which DNA can be influenced and reprogrammed by words and frequencies WITHOUT cutting out and replacing single genes…

    READ MORE: http://wakeup-world.com/2011/07/12/scientist-prove-dna-can-be-reprogrammed-by-words-frequencies/


  9. THE KINGDOM OF DARKNESS.

    A. Its Reality

    The Scriptures, God’s Word, the Bible, clearly indicate that in the universe and more particularly surrounding this planet earth, there IS* the KINGDOM OF DARKNESS. It is the very antithesis of the Kingdom of God, which IS* a Kingdom of LIGHT. Satan is in control of this kingdom of DARKNESS, and under his authority there are numerous fallen angels and demon spirits. The following illustrates the contrast between Satan’s kingdom and God’s.

    SATAN’S KINGDOM

    a) A Kingdom of Darkness
    b) A Kingdom of Sin and Unrighteousness
    c) A kingdom of Sickness and Disease
    d) A Kingdom of Deception
    e) A Kingdom of Sorrow and Death

    GOD’S KINGDOM

    a) A Kingdom of LIGHT
    b) A Kingdom of Holiness and Righteousness
    c) A Kingdom of Healing and Health
    d) A Kingdom of Truth
    e) A Kingdom of Joy and Life

    In EVERY nation today, there is a tremendous increase of activity in the Satanic realm. The rise of the occult, spiritism and Satanism are evidence of this. In I Timothy 4: 1-3, Paul warns us that in the LAST DAYS people would DEPART* from the faith and give HEED* to SEDUCING* SPIRITS* and to doctrines of DEVILS ( Jude 3).

    Believers often either ignore Satan’s existence and power or over-emphasize it. A Biblical balance is much needed in these last days. It is only through God’s Word that a proper understanding of this subject can be gained.

    B. Its Domain

    The word “domain” refers to “the rule, reign and territory over which a king rules.” The domain of the kingdom of darkness is wherever Satan exercises his dominion. The following references describe this domain.

    1. It is called Satan’s Kingdom ( Matt. 12:25-26; Luke 11: 14-19).
    2. It is a kingdom of darkness ( Coll. 1:13-14; Rev. 16:10).
    3. It influences the kingdoms of this world system ( Luke 4: 5-6; Rev. 11:15;
    Matt. 4: 8-10).
    4. It influences the world kingdoms from the atmospheric heavens or “the
    heavenly places” ( Eph. 2:2; 3:10; 6:12; Rev. 12: 3,7-12).
    5. It is diametrically opposed to the Kingdom of God in nature, character
    and purpose.

    It is essential to recognize that the extent of Satan’s domain is limited by God. He cannot exercise authority where God does not allow.

    One of Satan’s major ‘trump’ cards, is convincing people that he and his demonic entities, do NOT exist, and many have bought into this LIE, if one does not believe that an enemy of theirs, exist, then, there is a stupid ignorance, in walking directly into the path, TRAP, that has been set for you!


  10. Satan’s Activity.

    The activity of demon spirits, as servants of Satan, is best summed up in John 10:10, “The THIEF comes to STEAL…to KILL and to DESTROY.” These spirits attack mankind spiritually, morally, mentally, physically, and emotionally. The following is a partial list of the things demons do under
    Satan’s control.

    1. The OPPOSE God’s mimisters ( Matt. 13:19; II Cor. 4:4)
    2. They PERVERT the Word of God and seek to hinder the Gospel
    (I Thess. 2:18).
    3. They HOLD their captives ( II Tim. 2:26; I Tim. 3:7)
    4. They BLIND the minds of unbelievers ( II Cor. 4:4).
    5. They SOW TARES among wheat ( Matt. 13:39).
    6. They SEDUCE people. The Greek word “planos”, translated “seduce” means that they rove ( as tramps) and by implication thay are IMPOSTERS* and MISLEADERS*. They seek to draw aside from the path; to lead ASTRAY, ALLURE, TEMPT, CORRUPT, DEFRAUD, and ENTICE ( I Tim. 4:1; Mark 13: 22; I John 2:26). A seducing spirit can cause people to be obsessed with a false idea, or doctrinal imbalance.

    And, yes, the ONLY self-authenticating, authority, that deals with, explaining, the awesome BATTLE, carried on in the realm of the SPIRIT, manifested IN* the multiplicity of behavours, that we SEE, WITNESS, and experience DAILY in man’s affairs throught the world, IS* God’s Word, the Bible, there is no other ancient document, that gives us the ULTIMATE victory over all of Satans’s devices, plots, and plans, other than, IN* BY* and THROUGH* the Blood of Jesus Christ, whose ATONING DEATH, and victorious Resurrection from the Dead, has SEALED, Satan’s DEFEAT, and only those who appropriate THIS* ABSOLUTE* VICTORY* through HIM* can be delivered, and set FREE* from such BONDAGE; not religion, and DEAD FORMULISM and ritual, NO! NO! NO!

    Only the PERSON of Christ, can effect this miraculous change for anyone, who is willing, sincerely, by FAITH* BELIEF* which is THEN* manifested IN* the reality of the TRANSFORMED, mind, heart, life, that simply CANNOT be denied!


  11. @TB
    How convenient to have pidgeonholes to put in all those things that are “bad”and “good”, each of which is subjective anyway. If you believe in an all-encompassing “God”, then surely “He” is responsible for all of it. So if there’s something that you don’t like, it’s bad – the work of Satan. If it’s something you like, it’s “good”- the work of God. That really is too convenient. As for your extreme use of vocabulary, you may get yourself off on it, but if you have to explain any of the words, you have lost your audience. Best just to get a job and forget these diatribes, I reckon.


  12. @Bored, Your concept is called, cultural and moral ‘relativism’ that is, NO absolutes, no objective TRUTH; anything goes!

    Really!! No RIGHT or WRONG!!!


  13. Stuuupse…..#@%$^&***%%$####

    Bored ……”As for your extreme use of vocabulary, you may get yourself off on it, but if you have to explain any of the words, you have lost your audience. Best just to get a job and forget these diatribes, I reckon.”

    ROFLMAO………Ha haaaaaaaaaaa


  14. I don’t think people should be frightened by TBs postings. They are not impossible to understand. Let me sum this one up:
    1. William the Conquer invaded England.
    2. The Bible holds the secrets of life. No idea what the relevance of William is, just an interesting introduction I suppose.
    3. Good and evil rage. Fine – there are criminals out there and there are people who help others.
    4. Evil may be the result of genes or upbringing (or God if you think there is one).
    5. Oxytocin might make psychopaths normal.
    6. Science deals with reality, religion talks about morality.
    Err – thats it.
    My review, 120 words. TBs article 2300 words.
    Back to selling cosmetics perhaps?


  15. @St George’s Dragon… ROTFLMAO…

    Have you noticed how TMB speaks, and then Zoe reinforces? And then TMB, and then Zoe. Repeat as necessary….

    And let us not forget BU.David is always a prostitute for traffic….


  16. @ St George’s Dragon

    Now back to reality!!!

    On a more serious note – the BIBLE* reminds us CLEARLY* that “out of the abundance of a man’s heart, his mouth speaks”…

    I guess I could choose to BLOG* about TONY BLAIR’S soon-to-be BILLIONS* (haha) or the current seismic rumblings in the “HALLOWED” halls of BRUSSELS* , or maybe, the most current research that is out which shows that “Atheists, Agnostics live shorter, unhappier lives, according to research journals…

    READ MORE: http://blog.beliefnet.com/news/2011/09/atheists-agnostics-live-shorter-unhappier-lives-according-to-researchers.php#ixzz1YTryI01s

    THERE’S A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS I COULD DWELL UPON BUT I CHOSE THE TOPICS WHICH ARE NEAREST & DEAREST TO MY HEART…AND THANK GOD I AM NOT SHORT IN MOST DEPARTMENTS AS THE WORD***SAYS IN 2 TIM.1:7 – “God has not given me a “SPIRIT” of fear – but I have POWER*, LOVE* and a ‘SOUND MIND’*”…

    I apologize if that offends & offsets some folks – no harm or hurt was intended in the making of this sequence of articles or in anything that pertains to my life…

    @ CHRIS HALSALL

    To suggest that “DAVID” is a “SLAPPER” for traffic is really a disparaging remark… I do not make any claims on knowing David’s intentions but I believe he is an open-minded, SMART*, cerebrally-adept individual (UNLIKE MOST* IN BARBADOS) who is willing to give everyone their say and the benefit of the doubt… Yet he is able to maintain his own individuality in the process, not swayed by pressure or public opinion… So “KUDOS” to the brother!!!


    • @TB

      To suggest that “DAVID” is a “SLAPPER” for traffic is really a disparaging remark… I do not make any claims on knowing David’s intentions but I believe he is an open-minded, SMART*, cerebrally-adept individual (UNLIKE MOST* IN BARBADOS) who is willing to give everyone their say and the benefit of the doubt… Yet he is able to maintain his own individuality in the process, not swayed by pressure or public opinion… So “KUDOS” to the brother!!!

      Some comments are best left alone. Chris will be the first to shout loud if BU begins to filter the views of the BU family.

      Perhaps Chris was just bored when he made the comment.


  17. @ BORED

    First of all, I wish you weren’t “BORED”* – that in itself says a whole lot!!!

    2nd: Spiritual things are spiritually discerned… I know it is a “TALL” order and ask for you folks to “THINK” but don’t you think it is time to “AWAKE” from sleep?

    3rd & lastly: Some “FOLKS” need to work to live – others live to work!!!

    My FATHER* also works and the works I do fulfill the desires of the ONE* who sends me…

    I am grateful for a BALANCED* life which put no socioeconomic pressures on me to do as other FOLKS* are compelled to do…

    That in itself is a BLESSING* from ABOVE*…

    Try it – you may be pleasantly “SURPRISE”!!!


  18. Boredom, can very easily beset a mind, that’s limited in it’s comprehension, unable to grasp such deeper matters, pertaining to reality, especially that of ‘spiritual’ ultimates!


  19. @ DAVID

    Maybe in this political season of British *PARTY CONFERENCES*; BARBADOS LABOUR* PARTY incessant wrangling; DLP jettisoned to the land of NOD*; Caribbean leadership in MELTDOWN*; foreign reserves drying up; GLOBAL DEBT* strangling lesser developed economies; the EURO* in crisis to the point of IMPLOSION*; ITALY’s wealth bottlenecked in the VATICAN* and the rating agencies DOWNGRADE* as they’re having a laugh at other’s expense; OBAMA* delaying the inevitable by bowling more googlies with his JOBS ACT*; the world heading towards a “GLOBAL DEPRESSION” unlike anything in human history; rumors of war ignite by a mere “WHISPER”; (UN)natural catastrophes looming in the wake of all the SPIN*; social unrest and fomenting anarchy; MAJOR* unhappiness across the board; constriction of resources; hopes being dashed; dreams lost; and a world turned on its head – NEED I GO ON???

    ROFL!!!

    Yet there IS* such **GOOD* NEWS** – sadly, no one wants it…

    So modern-day prophets like ZOE* & Co: continue to follow in the tradition of JOHN THE BAPTIST and others who warn vociferously that “SOMETHING OMINOUS” is coming down the “PIKE” more cataclysmic than any of the “LABOUR” pains (excuse my PUN* – LOL) that I have already mentioned above…

    So the DEBATE* between GOOD* v evil is a serious issue…

    We ignore at our own PERIL*…


  20. Goodness me, TB! All those asterisks! I kept looking for the definitions at the bottom of the page, but they aren’t there. Zoe love, don’t attribute concepts to me that don’t exist. Pidgeonholing subjective concepts such as good and evil allows you the convenience of not having to think about them. “Bored” is just that feeling I get whenever I read any of TB’s treatises. I mean, let’s face it – Bertrand Russell he ain’t!


  21. @TB

    The challenge for you and Zoe is to emphatically deliver the word* in a way that resonates with would be converts while enthusing the believers at the same time.


  22. @TB

    “The challenge for you and Zoe is to emphatically deliver the word* in a way” that 3rd formers can understand.

    Some of us did not go to University and I am sure you would want to include all God’s children and not just the academics.


  23. @Hants
    Don’t kid yourself that this stuff can only be understood by academics. It can be understood by anybody who can be bothered to read it. The problem is, who can be bothered?


  24. Re: Terrence’s alleged lack of selling / showmanship skills
    I saw a Tribe Called Quest in one of their first concerts
    –but there was no crowd participation or interaction between the artists and the crowd
    –maybe terry has the same problemo doing justice to himself
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


  25. @ BORED*

    To clump me together with an “ATHEIST” like Bertrand Russell is frankly an insult of the worst kind…

    Were Russell alive today, the suggestion to him would be to take some time off from his mundane life and read PROVERBS* & ECCLESIASTES*…

    Russell like SOLOMON* recognized that “all is vanity and vexation of spirit” – when your earthly WISDOM* is not wrapped up into power of JESUS CHRIST* because it is so easy to believe your own HYPE* and to think that your C.R.A.P. don’t smell…

    In Russell’s own words: “brief and powerless is man’s life; on him and all his race the slow, sure dooms falls pitiless and dark…” is nothing more than a pathetic representation of earthly “GENIUS” without GOD*…(an empty and meaningless VOID*)…

    Fortunately for Solomon, at the end of Ecclesiastes he WOKE* up, got over himself and recognized that the “whole duty of man is to FEAR* God and to keep HIS* commandments”…

    Regrettably, Russell and his ilk die in their mindset that “man’s achievement must inevitably be buried beneath the debris of a universe in ruins…” (MAN THIS GUY HAD THE SOLOMONIC SYNDROME)…

    What is actually in “RUINS” is his own “SOUL” which he was “IMPOTENT”, weak and disheveled to save… Another pitiful excuse for a human being lost in the primordial ashes of lost apotheosis – CLIMBING* PROVERBIAL MOUNT OLYMPUS* BUT REALIZING THAT THE PROCESS OF TRANSFIGURATION* IS RESERVED “only” FOR GOD’S CHILDREN…

    Sad!!!


  26. @ DAVID

    “The challenge for you and Zoe is to emphatically deliver the word* in a way that resonates with would be converts while enthusing the believers at the same time….”

    After the last article got almost 400 comments with no real consensus in site – it seems like this indeed a lost cause…Worst than trying to “KICK” a DEAD* HORSE*…

    But then, there’s always the silent minority who lurk in the shadows inconspicuous to my ISP address…


  27. To Terrence:
    Why are you so concerned about how many responses are here to this piece. You are doing what you are to do delivering the word; yes, I agree with some that the texture of the language is a bit abstract and if one does not have the foundational linguistic equipment, it will be heavy reading, but your subsequently posts have brought some clarity. If bored or any other blooger could do what you do in defense of their beliefs, we would be reading longer treatises than you have constructed. be assured i have been reading all the time.


  28. @ LEMUEL

    In all fairness my dear brother, I could care less about responses…(given the negative, adversarial nature of how things manifest)…

    But that is to be expected given that DARKNESS* hates the LIGHT*…

    When I alluded to the last article which had almost 400 comments – the reality is that nothing really changed in principle far less in practice…

    Better [1] response and a life changed – than 400 and its the same ‘ole, same ‘ole…

    As was cited – “it’s like kicking a dead horse”…


  29. @TB

    “because it is so easy to believe your own HYPE* and to think that your C.R.A.P. don’t smell…”

    Couldn’t have said it better myself Terry. Looked in the mirror lately?


  30. @ bored
    “Looked in the mirror lately?”

    THANK GOD FOR JESUS, eh?

    He sure knows how to clean up our MESS* if you let HIM*>>>

    You know the beauty of LANGUAGE* is that just like DRAUGHTS or CHESS – make the right moves and you can outmaneuver you opponents…

    Language is no different – plant the right words and like a spider you entrap your bait!!!

    You guys are too SOFT!!!

    Time to grow up!!!


  31. TMB

    After the last article got almost 400 comments with no real consensus in site –
    **********************
    You seem to pride yourself on the number of comments your posts generate, with all the patting of your own back I predict a visit to the chiropractor’s office in the near future.

    One small detail seem to have been omitted from your response, how many of those comments were penned by you?


  32. To Terrence, Zoe and Bored:
    Recently I was contemplating the book of Eclesiates by solomon, one of man’s best philosophers. What struck me about that book was its depressing assessment of life. He argues that man spends an enormous amount of time working or amassing temporal things that he can never take with him at death. And that death is that thing which lurks around the corner for all of us.He suggests that we live, eat and try to be merry for it is only a whirlwind that awaits us.

    As a scoffer Bored is fueled by his or her reliance upon the fact that he or she has some information or deep insight to information that renders your (Terrence and Zoe) perspective of life either irrelevant or stupid throwing him or her into a state of boredom. But whereas Bored decries the Bible and its adherents as simple minded to believe that “stuff”, everyone else like Bored puts his or her “FAITH” into some system of belief. The usual arguments are that the Bible “stuff” is or can not be substantiated by facts or scientific principles, but Bored and his or her kind are eternally wed to principles that for the most part they do not understand as these principle and concepts were constructed by scientist who for the most part give the impression that they have solved ALL the mysteries of the universe, including who God is and where he and his mother and father came from. Yet, Bored and his kind do not ever realized or are too intellectually dishonest to admit/see that THEY ARE PURSUING THEIR BELIEFS BASED ON FAITH. That thing that the Bible thumpers dare to bring to the scientific discussion.

    Bored I am sure if Terrence had jumped into a treatise on STRING THEORY and the various dimensions that are thrown up thereby, you would have been joyous. Not realizing poor thing that the scientists themselves do not even know if the theory holds or if those dimensions do exist. In short, most of you (Bored and his kind) are standing on the precipice of insanity with a more often than not mad man at the edge telling you it is safe to come on in.


  33. @ SARGE

    “You seem to pride yourself on the number of comments your posts generate, with all the patting of your own back…”

    HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!

    More discombobulation…

    Sarge, withal due respect SIR* – better “ONE LIFE” changed with some meaningful CONSENSUS* than [400] comments riddled with MUDSLINGING, UNNECESSARY BANTER, LIES & DIATRIBE and a range of NEGATIVE* emotions which does precious little to engender proper discourse or discussion…

    NOW WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT THAT – YOU LOT DON’T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND?

    It seems VERBOSE* is more easily understood than PLAIN, STRAIGHTFORWARD peasant speak…

    C’mon GUYS!!!


  34. Attempts to color the debate between GOOD* v evil with a drop of common moral reason in a cesspool of fragmentation and bedlam results in even greater side-stepping, dodging, bobbing ‘n’ weaving and with FOLKS* getting personal without dealing with the ISSUES* choosing rather to deal with PERSONALITIES* as a way of obfuscating responsibility to come off the FENCE*…

    @ LEMUEL

    LOL… I will leave STRING THEORY* to the imminent Chris HALSALL…

    As for SOLOMON* – your citation is BEAUTIFUL*… If I have ever learnt anything about LIFE*, TRIAL and the ability to “OVERCOME” – I have learnt it from SOLOMON’s experience…

    No greater person have ever lived on this GREEN* earth (well some say BLUE – a debate for another day) other than JOHN THE BAPTIST*…

    So SOLOMON* ranks at No.3 in the last 6000 years of men being born of a woman and their DIVINE* assessment in terms of GREATNESS*…

    So men born of women – Yeshua Hamashiach (AKA. JESUS THE CHRIST = P.P.K) @ NO.1; John The Baptist @ NO.2 and King Solomon@ NO.3…

    Lemuel, I believe a failure of parents today with CHILDREN* is a lack of instilling the words of PROVERBS* into the hearts of our youth…Hence the chaos we are seeing!!!

    Secular, scientific and base human wisdom has replaced the *WISDOM* OF GOD* found in books like ECCLESIASTES*….

    If any man lack “WISDOM” let him ask of God, who gives it “LIBERALLY” to “ALL” men and [upbraideth not]* …(meaning of the Greek word is to RAIL AT, REPROACH, REVILE, or CHIDE)…

    I thank God that Solomon understood that “WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING” came from God – yet along the way, he got lost in an impregnable fortress of self-delusion built with astronomical wealth, unbelievable SEXUAL* prowess and power (with all kinds of “FOREIGN” women) and most importantly, lost his TRUE* spiritual connection with the GOD* who gave him all that he had given the “GENERATIONAL” issues which he had emerged out of based on DAVID* (his father) and all that confronted him in his lifetime…

    Yet God deals with all of us based on where we are at… While men condemn – God commends to us HIS* love that while we were all SINNERS* (ostracized, debarred, locked out, rusticated, excommunicated, sequestered, extradited) from the kingdom of grace – God gave JESUS CHRIST* as a ransom sacrifice…

    Solomon, after wondering in the land of NOD* – finally found his way back to the SOURCE* of all LIFE* and his conclusion at the end of the book of ECCLESIASTES 12:13: “Here now is my final conclusion: Fear God and obey his commandments, for this is everyone’s duty.”

    Sadly, there are FOLKS* who think they are wiser (maybe even richer) than SOLOMON* and don’t think they need to “HEED” the conclusion of the wise man…

    Good luck to ’em….


  35. Oy, TB….

    Why you yelling, man?

    I think that science and faith have a lot to show each other! The thing is…priests and scientists have no idea how to reconcile the two! A pity….

    As God has pointed out….sometimes the things that are true are right in front of us…waiting for us to dicover. Once we do, we have to acknowledge the grandness that is God’s doing. Simple.


  36. @lemuel

    “But whereas Bored decries the Bible and its adherents as simple minded to believe that “stuff”, ”

    Sorry lem, but can you point out where I mentioned anything about the Bible? It is, in fact, a very good collection of stories and a reasonably good historical text. But to quote it verbatim as being “the truth” is, to say the least, is a bit of a stretch. To believe it word for word is being either intellectually weak, or intellectually dishonest.


  37. To Seeker:
    The greatest joke being played on man today is that the two bastions of thought, scientific, theological are the most disappointing as far as the leadership of pathways to life. Most of theologians today are so caught up in their revelry of what his or her ego can bring to the body of theological knowledge that a simple reading of the Bible has become too difficult for them. Over time they find themselves like the boys are Codrington college destroying any semblance of faith in anything. So like the good father hatch they do not believe in the first part of the Book of genesis. We are even questioning miracles, and some are straining to bring evolutionary science and creationism together. This is being seen in ALL religious denominations.

    We have some theoretical scientists, and it seems as if the physicists are leading at this juncture, who spend time until some grey beard starts to manifest itself, and then we are subjected to theories, which they hide in they nicely convoluted equations, formulas and laws. we the ordinary folk are required to have FAITH that they know what they are doing, thinking or saying. many of you jump run and come here to this forum believing your are armed to the teeth with these derivatives of their thoughts not knowing that they most of the times do not know what they are speculating about. Some experimentation would have given some in sight into the structure of the atom, yet scientists do not know much about it. and this is further complicated by standing on this speculation to further speculate now on the nature of sub atomic – sub atomic matter. The string theory is part of that speculation.

    I believe in creation; I believe in the Bible, but I also believe in hearing BOTH sides. I am willing to come here to see demonstrated that what scientists are speculating can be associated with or deemed as truth. But remember you are constrained by your own scientific admonition that your scientific proof only reaches the 95 percentile. And the question is always can the other 5% be the truth. A speculation that can not be dismissed.


  38. Results from Cern show particles ‘exceeded speed of light’

    New results from Cern, home of the Large Hadron Collider, have confounded physicists – because it seems subatomic particles have beaten the speed of light…

    The neutrinos sent through the ground from Cern toward the Gran Sasso laboratory 732km (454 miles) away in Italy seemed to show up a tiny fraction of a second early…

    The speed of light is the universe’s ultimate speed limit, and much of modern physics – as laid out in part by Albert Einstein in his theory of special relativity – depends on the idea that nothing can exceed it…

    The BBC’s David Shukman reports.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15038826


  39. The above story reported a few days drew all kinds of “oooh’s & aaah’s from scientific community especially in Britain…

    Now it seems we are going to have to relegate EINSTEIN to the back-burner; tear-up E=MC2; and possibility begin the ARDUOUS TASK* of rewriting some text books…

    It shows that GOD* does have a real sense of HUMOR*…

    I am also Rolling On The Floor Laughing myself at man’s stupidity in thinking that he can explain the QUANTUM* functions of the UNIVERSE* or LIFE* for that matter….

    WHAT A COLOSSAL JOKE!!!


  40. “God helped me through in every way. Wherever there was pressure, God opened a door and I got through. That is why I always remember and give God thanks.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    These are the words of the latest centenerian, Irvine Branch.

    http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/tales-of-a-century/

    All the Centenerians I have enjoyed reading about keep saying the same thing over and over again. They give God thanks and praise.

    I am yet to hear one who thinks or says different.

    Millicent Trotman at 106 on Friday said “Thank God, I can do what I have to do for myself”.

    http://news.barbadostoday.bb/barticlenew.php?ptitle=Still%20sharp%20at%20106&article=10633

    That’s good enough for me.

    Why do we even debate the obvious existence of God?


  41. Was evolution used by God as part of the process of creation? Did God individually create billions of varied living things or did God program one basic organism with the code to evolve into the many glorious and varied living things that we see today?


  42. Considering the unimaginable vastness of the Universe, are human beings so vain to think that this is all about facilitating human life here on earth?


  43. “I am also Rolling On The Floor Laughing myself at man’s stupidity in thinking that he can explain the QUANTUM* functions of the UNIVERSE* or LIFE* for that matter…. WHAT A COLOSSAL JOKE!!!”

    Blackette boy, you full of yourself. What about the colossal joke you believe in? No proof, no facts, just “I believe”. You think “I believe” can explain it? Anytime you say “I believe” you have very little credibility to explain anything.


  44. @John,
    “All the Centenerians I have enjoyed reading about keep saying the same thing over and over again. They give God thanks and praise.”

    Did you do research to find out what any Buddhist centenarians keep saying? What do centenarians in other religions say?

    After living 100 years believing a lie, what else can come out but a lie. Albiet, innocently enough.


  45. To Chris:
    As a response to your”those who belief without question are probably wrong”, doesn’t your “scientific ” approach also hold that nothing is 100% right or correct. I think the percentile for right by your scientific method is 95%. Does that mean that you have a 95% confidence that the out come is correct? But the question is isn’t that whole process the same as belief, for certainly MOST people do not have the time or equipment or skills to replicate MOST of these claims by scientists. If it is belief why are you and scientist hiding the fact that more often that not modern man is required to have faith in modern scientific man, who is still probing in the dark.


  46. @lemuel: “If it is belief why are you and scientist hiding the fact that more often that not modern man is required to have faith in modern scientific man, who is still probing in the dark.

    Your premise is, as usual, flawed.

    Yes, we of the Scientific Method (SM) are the first to admit that nothing can be proven as 100% true, beyond mathematics. That is why we refer to Theories.

    But, what differentiates those of the SM vs. Blind Faith is we are always questioning ourselves and each other. Further, we encourage this questioning, because we know we might be wrong.

    And, because of this, after several hundred years of steady progress, our models of the Universe around us are getting better and better. But, again, we’re always willing to examine new evidence which might show that a model is wrong.

    A (very) contemporary example is the recent results out of CERN which suggests that sub-atomic particles (neutrinos) travelled faster than light in an experiment. This is supposed to be impossible according to Albert Einstein’s theory of relativity, a pillar of modern physics.

    What do the Scientists do when something like this happens? They present their evidence and their methodologies for peer review, hoping to either be proven wrong or to be told that “no, you haven’t made any mistakes that [other Scientists] can see”.

    If the experiment stands up to review, then other Scientists (in this case, to your above that most people can’t reproduce more advanced experiment) who are able to will independently reproduce the experiment. In this case, it will be Fermilab.

    This is why I believe in the Scientific Method over Blind Faith.


  47. Eskeptic has its own agenda, as does Chris.

    Their agenda has moved from man-made climate change to climate change,
    which no-one can ever deny, the climate changes constantly and has done so for the billions of years of earth’s existence.
    Should we be bothered?
    The computerised projections of the last ten years say not.

    But they are FALSE say the ass-lickers, 97% of climate scientists and 100% of international loan seekers say yeah.

    i.e. unreliable, unscientific, self aggrandising pap.
    For those naysayers including our own promotion of this monumental deception MS Elizabeth Thompson, eco-environmentalist supreme,

    Madame hang your head in shame when you grace the halls of the UN.
    You exemplify all that is wrong with the global government experiment , and those with whom it will consort.

    If there any half intelligent people left out in this blogosphere, check out the doomladen predictions, the actual data, the cost of prevention v the cost of adaptation and let us make a rational decision on provable facts.


  48. @Straight talk (ST): “Eskeptic has its own agenda, as does Chris.

    Of course. Just like everyone — including you.

    @ST: “Their agenda has moved from man-made climate change to climate change, which no-one can ever deny, the climate changes constantly and has done so for the billions of years of earth’s existence.

    I’m not entirely sure that the agenda has moved. Climate change has of course been a constant since earth formed.

    But man is the first animal on Earth which is able to influence this process so heavily by burning carbon previously sequestered by other life forms.

    @ST: “Should we be bothered? The computerised projections of the last ten years say not.

    Could you please support this position with documentation? Because almost everything I’ve read says we should be ***VERY*** bothered.

    But, then, at the end of the day, life on Earth will continue no matter what.

    And while the Canadians and the Russians might enjoy more winter days in short-sleeved shirts, we in the Caribbean, Africa and southern North America and northern South America will be unable to move because of the heat.

    Sucks to be those who can’t afford air conditioning….


  49. Hold the presses. First let us start with the”TRUE ” definition of “GOD. How can one present an argument without real proof via a definition..


  50. @ac: “Hold the presses. First let us start with the”TRUE ” definition of “GOD. How can one present an argument without real proof via a definition..

    None of us experience exactly the same things.

    Thus, for each of us, GOD will mean different things.

    For the more enlightened, such differing experiences and interpretations will be welcomed.

    For the less enlightened… Well, we all know what happens….


  51. @ CH,
    i interpret your comment to be as “GOD” being an experience and if i correctly understood can you be more informative in explaining “The experience “or experiences you speak of mostly pertaining to yourself!


  52. I wonder what SPEED our LORD, transports us, that is, those of us who are SAVED* into His presence in heaven, when we die?

    Surely, our Omnipotent, Eternal, Creator, has speed(s) that Scientists, ain’t even think bout yet!!! After all, He only, so far, has given us a glimmer, of His Majestic, Universe!

    BTW, someone, once said, that ‘Theory’ is ignorance* based on the subject under discussion!!!

    This sound so applicable to Scientists, especially those of the Evo Mat, camp!


  53. @Zoe: “I wonder what SPEED our LORD, transports us, that is, those of us who are SAVED* into His presence in heaven, when we die? Surely, our Omnipotent, Eternal, Creator, has speed(s) that Scientists, ain’t even think bout yet!!! After all, He only, so far, has given us a glimmer, of His Majestic, Universe!

    Zoe… What you might not appreciate is I agree with you. There is a none zero possibility that you are correct.

    On the other hand, there is also a none zero possibility that you are incorrect….


  54. “Zoe says”I wonder what speed God transports us into his presence that those of us who aresaved.”
    Very interesting question one which you and other christian should ponder.”


  55. CH, all of this ‘none zero’ possibility, one way or the other, is man’s limited mathematical knowledge, let us hear from HIM* concerning diminsions that science cannot begin to fathom!

    “Understand, you senseless among the people; And you fools, when will you be wise? HE* who planted the EAR, shall HE not hear? HE* who FORMED (Created) the EYE, shall HE not see? HE* who instructs the nations, shall HE* not correct, HE* who teaches man knowledge? The Lord KNOWS* the thoughts of man. They are FUTILE. Blessed is the man whom YOU instruct, O Lord.” ( Psalms 94: 8-12) Emphasis added.

    But as it is written:

    “Eye has NOT SEEN, nor EAR HEARD, Nor have entered the heart ( desires, dreams) of man. The THINGS which God has prepared for those who LOVE HIM.” ( I Cor. 2: 9) Emphasis added.

    NOTE: Eye has not seen. The quotation is from Isa 64:4 ( v.9) implies three ways of knowing: (1) perceptional knowledge (eye, ear) through observation and sense experience, (2) conceptional knowledge ( heart, mind) by reason and intellectual inquiry, and (3) spiritual knowledge (love) by moral and personal affinity. Since knowledge of the things of God, is beyond scientific inquiry, more of a spiritual than an intellectual nature, there is no basis in glorying in any scientific, meager knowledge, of reality.

    IF, unbelieving Evo Mat scientist, could only understrand, grasp, that all that they dream of exploring in the Universe, travelling to distent Planets, now seen in MILLIONS of light years of speed, will THEN, with HIM* be in a ‘twinkling’ of an eye, beyong the imagination of men, BUT, will be for those who LOVE HIM* Now!


  56. @Zoe: “CH, all of this ‘none zero’ possibility, one way or the other, is man’s limited mathematical knowledge, let us hear from HIM* concerning diminsions that science cannot begin to fathom!

    Let me please be very clear Zoe et al.

    If any God considers me wrong, please let them strike me down.

    Here and now.

    Strike me down.

    Now.

    -Chris


  57. @Halsall, Many a foolish Atheist/Agnostic, like you, have uttered such words, do you really think, on your present PATH, to eternal separation from God, in HELL, should be brought forward?

    There was a remarkable story about an Atheist, who had been very bold, an arrogant like you, Halsall, he defied God by saying, “If there is a God, my grave, body will be infested with snakes.”

    Since his burial, the family lot has been FULL of snake holes around the curbing. Snakes can be seen any day you visit the graveyard. The neighbours there say the more they kill, the thicker they seem to be.

    Halsall, you have NO idea who you are playing with, some day when your earthly TIME runs out, having being given the chance to repent, and believe, ETERNITY of misery, and torment awaits you, and those of your ilk!


  58. @Zoe… Yeah, yeah. Another fairy tale to scare those who are weak of mind…

    I believe that if god exists, then they gave us a brain capable of critical thought.

    I further believe that if god exists, they would be disappointed if we didn’t use this ability, rather than punishing us for doing so….


  59. @CH: Notice you are referring to God in the plural. You might just be right according to the Book of Genesis of the Judeo-Christian branch of religion. And the Elohim said “let us make man in our own image”!The gods referred to in Genesis are extra-terrestrial beings who genetically modified apes to create human beings.
    @Zoe: The Nephilims (Your God(s) in the Bible) are returning. Check the Book of Ezekiel and you will learn.


  60. Zoe reference comment Sept /29./2011.8.24a.m.
    and where would that place be?

    Look the reality being that Christianity has this morbid fear of science and what it reveals about the creation and evolution of the universe, as a matter of fact that fear is unfounded and it should be shelved in these modern times. as the bible clearly states “no one can store old wine in new old bottles. Letting go of the old and renewing of the mind can be challenging but in the long run it is also liberating. The only thing one has to fear is fear itself. If Christians truly believe and is convinced of their beliefs understanding the universe scientifically would not shift their thinking but would only shed more light on the dynamics with which “God” work in doing so.


  61. @ac: “[As] the bible clearly states “no one can store old wine in new old bottles. Letting go of the old and renewing of the mind can be challenging but in the long run it is also liberating. The only thing one has to fear is fear itself.

    Beautifully said.

    @ac: “If Christians truly believe and [are] convinced of their beliefs understanding the universe scientifically would not shift their thinking but would only shed more light on the dynamics with which “God” work in doing so.

    Fundamentally true.


  62. ROK | September 26, 2011 at 9:01 PM | @John,
    “All the Centenerians I have enjoyed reading about keep saying the same thing over and over again. They give God thanks and praise.”

    Did you do research to find out what any Buddhist centenarians keep saying? What do centenarians in other religions say?

    After living 100 years believing a lie, what else can come out but a lie. Albiet, innocently enough.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ROK

    Faith and longevity go hand in hand.

    Common sense would say so but scientific studies show it fo those who put their faith in science!!

    http://www.davidmyers.org/Brix?pageID=52

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