The Democratic Labour Party Promised Integrity Legislation In 100 Days, It Is Now 1000+ Days And Counting

To illustrate the more things change the more they remain the same BU has cited three quotes below uttered by the Late Prime Minister Rt. Hon. J. M.G. M. ADAMS, M.A which have been extracted from his introductory speech to the Integrity Legislation Debate (parliament) in November 1979.

During the last Session I moved a Resolution calling for the  introduction of integrity legislation for Ministers and Members of Parliament. After rnuch equivocation that Resolution was sent to a Select Committee. However, except for Mr. Speaker, no member of the then Government, the Democratic Labour Party, attended any meeting
of the Select Committee on integrity legislation and it failed to obtain a quorum. We therefore proposed in our Manifesto that we would pass legislation providing for; Members of Parliament, Senators and politically appointed members of Statutory Corporations to disclose their financial assets and liabilities on assuming office, periodically during office, and on termination. That was our commitment and this legislation is the result.

It is really a very simple principle that every year Ministers and Mernbers of Parliament, Senators should make a declaration of how much money they have, what property they own in and out of Barbados, and under certain conditions what property is owned by their spouse and children. Every year these declarations should be updated and examined by a Public Integrity Commission.

We have carried out an election pledge by introducing this Bill which seeks to preserve public confidence in the integrity and honesty of persons in public life. We know that we have to take the lead because the Opposition is opposed to it. I will not be so uncharitable as to say that the Opposition does not want this Bill passed because perhaps they are unwilling to make declarations and are therefore picking up something that is nothing, along with their anger, to excite the public in an unreasonable way.

Rt. Hon. J. M.G. M. ADAMS, M.A., (Prime Minister and Minister of  Finance and Planning), House of Assembly Debates

His Honour W. C. B. HINDS, J.P. (Speaker); Rt. – Hon. E. W. BARROW, U.D., (Leader of the Opposition); Mr. R. StC. WEEKES, J.P.; Hon. L. S. CRAIG, (Minister of Housing, Lands and the Environment); Rt. Hon. J. M.G. M. ADAMS, M.A., (Prime Minister and Minister of Finance and Planning); Hon. C. L. BOLDEN, LL.B., (Minister
of Communications and Works); Mr. E. E. GREAVES, B. A., Ed.M.; Mr. D. A. C. SIMMONS, LL.M.; Hon. Miss B. A. MILLER, (Minister of Health and National Insurance); Hon. L. B. BRATHWAITE, (Minister of Agriculture, Food and Consumer Affairs); Mr. J. G. ODLE, B.Sc., (Chairman of Committees); Mr. M. C. C. WARD; Mr. V. L. JOHNSON, M.A.; Hon. L. R. TULL, M.A., (Minister of Education and Culture); Mr. DeL. 0 . BRADSHAW; Mr. L.L. SISNETT; His Honour E. E. ALLEYNE, LL.M., (Deputy Speaker) and Dr. R. C. HAYNES, M.B., Ch.B., M.R.C.P.
(Edin .)

Members of Parliament present at the last debate on Integrity Legislation 30+ years ago

Although many of those party to the 79 debate are dead or infirmed several remain active. It is disappointing that former members of parliament Dame Billie Miller, Sir Henry Ford, Sir David Simmoms, Sir Louis Tull, Ezra Alleyne, Evelyn Greaves, Leroy Sisnett, Delisle Bradshaw should remain silent by not informing the current public debate on integrity legislation.

Given the challenge of implementing the legislation in small countries why not maintain the scope of the original legislation and expand after careful monitoring?

The DLP should inform the public why it refused to participate in the Joint Committee to consider the legislation. Both parties should explain why it has taken thirty years to read the legislation in parliament only for it to retire meekly to a Joint Select Committee of parliament.

0 thoughts on “The Democratic Labour Party Promised Integrity Legislation In 100 Days, It Is Now 1000+ Days And Counting


  1. To be quite honest, neither of the two leading political parties in Barbados wants that legislation to pass since they seems to be ALL tainted. The only way that legislation would succeed if we election a new group of politicians and force they hands to have this passed before they too become corrupt. Too many lawyers in parliament, we need a better balance


    • On the subject of lawyers, we should congratulate Gregory Nicholls, another lawyer who was selected to represent St. Michael North West.

      In an earlier blog when we posted a conversation by William Duguid, he admitted MPs were lukewarm to the idea.


  2. Until some politicians take Jail there will never be Integrity legislation. Isn’t it strange that many lawyers are now before the courts for theft and many politicians were once lawyers. It seems that going into the field of Law is an excellent breeding ground for aspiring politicians. Defrauding the public seems to be the name of the game.


    • It is a code, to protect the profession.

      It is interesting to note that Vonda Pile, the most recent lawyer arrested is NOT a member of the Barbados Bar Association and yet she was able to procure a license.

      How can the BAR defend its code of conduct for lawyers if its members are not obligated to be members?

      An analogy can be made to the ZR/minibus people.


  3. Sanka Price wrote an article a few years back looking at the various moves of the two parties towards integrity legislation.

    It started back in the 60’s just after independence I seem to remember the article saying.

    He quoted Hansard to show that the first excuse that scuttled the exercise was colour …. all you all trying to do is slow up a poor black man!!!!!

    It is amazing what that excuse has been used for over the decades.


  4. My memory may be playing tricks. Must try and find the article and reread it.

    It was in 1975 that Patsy Springer made his comments in Parliament. I still am pretty sure the exercise started in the 1960’s

    Here is an extract from a debate in the House of Assembly (1975) related to ITAL (taken from Sanka Price’s article):

    “Can you countenance anybody asking A.S. Bryden – he held office in the vestry – or who was so mad as to write in the newspaper asking him to declare his assets?

    THEY have lost political power now and THEY are asking every BLACK man who is holding office, so long as he can change a car three times a year, walk about looking clean and carrying a cheque book to declare his assets” said (Patsy) Springer.”


  5. The objective of this blog is to show how BOTH parties have played the electorate over the years.

    The objective in subsequent blogs on IL will be to show how the relationship between the media and politicians has helped to keep the people in the ‘dark’.

    The clarification is required before the labels begin to fly.


  6. “How can the BAR defend its code of conduct for lawyers if its members are not obligated to be members?”

    Exactly what do you mean here, David? If one may choose not to be a member of the Bar, then how can the Bar discipline that lawyer? He or she remains subject to the law of the land. This has nothing to do with the Bar Code of Conduct for those who are members.


  7. @David

    The above speech was made in 1979, what happened in the intervening years to Tom’s death in 1985? The BLP had a majority and could have passed the legislation just as today the DLP has a majority and can also ensure that the bill go forward.

    The present Bill has now been referred to a Select Committee where we all known it will die a slow death unless members of the public let their representatives know that isn’t good enough. ( I was going to say make it an election issue but look how that turned out).

    The hearts of the members of both Parties are not behind this legislation, any speeches or finger pointing is just political posturing to give political cover and blame each other for its demise.

    As you so ably pointed out some of the members then are still active or on the fringes have you heard any of them make a statement on this topic? Ezra has a weekly column has he ever written anything to address this subject?


  8. @ David

    Am I reading right? Isn’t St. Michael North West the Constituency which Mr. Mascoll represented twice in the past? Didn’t he contest the seat in the last General Election? Is he finished with elective politics?
    I will be very disappointed if that is the case since I was looking forward to his scholarly contributions in the House of Assembly once more. I don’t always get my local news when I am overseas and it is possible that he might told his constituents and his party that he was calling it a day when I was off the Rock.


    • One would have hoped the findings of the Duffus Commission hints of events which occurred and caused many to surmise the late PM Barrow was suffering from amnesia would encourage integrity and FOI legislation.


  9. Nuh lotta long talk.

    Politicians are concerned that constituents will inundate them with requests for money if they declare their assets.


    • @Hants

      Are you aware that it is proposed that an Integrity Commission would be the body which manages the information?

      It will not be splashed in the public domain.


  10. LOL @ 100 DAYS turning into 1000 days
    This DLP Government
    Can this Government survive ?

    OF TOPIC :
    why are you able tell if a picture is old ?
    I am referring to the picture of PM Tom Adams as opposed to the picture of PM Stuart .

    I know that technolgy would differ over the years but what really makes a picture look older. I want the technical details from an expert not from people who dont know and want to pretend that they know or people who just trying to be silly. I dont want silly answers .


  11. Tina tek off yuh blonde wig and see wat might happen tah yuh. Yuh does cum off wid sum reel silly questions.


  12. Are you aware that it is proposed that an Integrity Commission would be the body which manages the information?

    Yes David and I don’t agree with that. The Integrity commissioners could be made up of people just as corrupt as some politicians.

    Also this is Barbados and even the big ups gossip.


  13. David you know that another “reason” for opposition to FOI and Integrity Legislation is some politicians may not want to declare the overseas assets.

    Some may have a little condo in Toronto.

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  16. Ministerial Code- excerpts from the proposed integrity legislation:
    6b: Ministers have a duty to Parliament to account, and be held to account, for the policies, decisions and actions of their ministries, departments and agencies.
    6f. Ministers must ensure that no conflict arises, or appears to arise, between their public duties and their private interests;
    6g. Ministers should avoid accepting any gift or hospitality which might, or might reasonably appear to, compromise their judgement or place them under an improper obligation;

    It is not a coincidence that many of the agencies concerned with the delivery of certain social services in this island have been established as statutory corporations. This process not only removes the “red tape”, but also gives the politician the power to influence policies through his appointed board of directors.
    Juxtapose this simple observation with a quasi government department such as the National Housing Corporation. State housing is available at below market prices, thereby creating excess demand. Excess demand creates an environment for bribery and corruption. The politician responsible for this state agency is placed in a position of power; he controls the allocation of houses to those on the waiting list, jobs within the organisation, the tendering process, and those who provide the organization with goods and services. Thus, he may be motivated by incentives (monetary or otherwise) and votes to favour certain special interest groups.

    Surely if we are honest, we must face the reality that politicians from both political parties have contravened the above proposed rules. We all know that the politicians use the statutory corporations to employ their constituents, because the process of gaining employment in central government is difficult because of the “red tape”. We all know that politicians employ the services of their friends to provide goods and services for the statutory corporations within their ministries. We know that many of those who provide refreshments at the annual conferences, branch meetings and during election campaigns, are often the ones who get the catering jobs and the school canteens.


  17. DAVID

    Don’t you think that it is really ironic that while you hide under your bed and write BARBADOS UNDERGROUND that you are on a crusade calling for traparency?

    Set the first example. Be transparent with who you are and then you will get the ball rolling.

    This is a real case of the pot calling the kettle black.


  18. BU is not the advocate or CBC. You of all people should understand. Neither political yardfowlism or pandering to advertiser dollars we have to be concerned about.

    Stay tuned for other blogs on the subject of IL.rtiser dollars we have to be concerned about.


  19. DAVID

    “Neither political yardfowlism or pandering to advertiser dollars we have to be concerned about”

    ……OR being transparent either.


  20. Now the issue here isn’t david transparency. The political are selected by their constituency so they are accountable to them. If we the people think integrity legislation is a good thing for them it should be enacted. If we think the politician have done foolishness then they are vote out of office. If the majority clamour for david identity and he doesn’t want to give it then we leave. as it only you asking for it, we will just ignore you like normal.


  21. Would it be true to say that this issue smacks of a lack of coherent debate ?

    We can be sure that what we have seen from the Government is a lack of focus in dealing with particular important national and social issues and the Prime Minister’s silent approach does not really help in putting the populace at ease .


  22. Both political parties have been pissing on our feet and telling us that it is raining. Enough is enough, we the people must insist and do whatever it takes to let these politicians know that it is time to stop playing the fool when it comes to Integrity Legislation.


  23. @David,
    If not an Integrity Commission, what?

    Okay. An Integrity commission but with a FOI act that allows full disclosure of Politician’s assets.

    The Canadian model is a good one. Note former PM Paul Martin had to put his corporation in a blind Trust.


  24. @Hants: “The Canadian model is a good one. Note former PM Paul Martin had to put his corporation in a blind Trust.

    We here in Bim seem to be commingling Integrity Legislation with Freedom Of Information (FOI) legislation.

    Why might that be?

    The latter (FOI) simply articulates that what is known by the Government was paid for by the taxpayers. And thus should be available to all taxpayers to that Government.

    (Except, of course, where national strategic interests might be comprised in the disclosure of same… “Who let the Lawyer’s loose?”)


  25. DAVID

    Your need for transparency extends to everyone else but not to you.
    You will continue to remain in your glass house and throw stones at every one in the House of assembly.


  26. DAVID

    I can’t believe that you can not see the comedy of you on An Anonymous blog screaming for others to be transparent.


  27. Carson Cadogan yuh got an itch up yuh pooch? Why don’t yuh leff David alone and stop dis igrant behaviour? Go an bade and scrub yuh brass bowl!


  28. @Carson C. Cadogan: “I can’t believe that you can not see the comedy of you on An Anonymous blog screaming for others to be transparent.

    As someone who uses their own real name…

    It is well known that you are not using your real name (even though it looks real).

    Might you share with us your own real name?

    Or is that too much to ask?


  29. CCC
    You were very happy when the corruption scandals of the BLP were discussed with all the vigour here on BU
    Now that your party is being urged to pass the promise of IL and FOI legislation, you are behaving like a spoilt brat.
    Carson you are going to be very disappointed in 2013 because it is rumoured already that the marginal seats, are all but loss to the BLP. Something must be happening because I see many roads in St.Michael being paved.
    The DLP won the government by exposing the corruption of the BLP. Now the BLP will win the government by exposing the corruption of the DLP
    The DLP can save face and speed up the legislation in the select committee and get it pass by the next election or Owen Arthur will have his hands on the money purse again. Lord help us


  30. @CCC: “Before you all forget, the DLP brought IL to the floor of the House Of Assembly.

    And how well did that work for we simple Bajans?

    By the way, you still haven’t answered my simple question: what is your real name?


  31. How does one make the comparison between a blogger and an elected public officer? The following observation has got to be made. As a television is to a V C R or D V D player, so too is common sense to education.One compliments the other. Carson C Cadogan from your recent posts it is clear to see that You Aint Got Na TV.


  32. If we had I’ll two ministers would have to declare their business interest in a business venture in Oldbury, one other minister would have had to declare the extent of his support with the controversial Peter Allard.

    Clone you are correct that a DLP government who came to power on a wave of anti-coruption sentiment would have had nothing to show except to equal what a Tom Adams government in 1979.


  33. @David: “Clone you are correct that a DLP government who came to power on a wave of anti-coruption sentiment would have had nothing to show except to equal what a Tom Adams government in 1979.

    For those of us “not in the know”, might you expand your statement?


  34. @Chris

    Despite the understanding shown by whoever wrote the last Sunday Sun editorial IL died at its second reading more than 30 years ago. There is a heavy suspicion IL under this administration will die as well.


  35. @Chris

    There was a lot of distrust back then, especially in a post-Duffus Commission period. We also had the then famous Sidney Burnett-Alleyne check alleged to have been paid to the late Cammie Tudor. The list is long. Even Tom Adams was implicated in a cheque allegedly received from Brydens. Will have to do some research if you want specifics. We also had the then famous Sidney Burnett-Alleyne check alleged to have been paid to the late Cammie Tudor. The list is long.


  36. @David… “Will have to do some research if you want specifics.

    @David (repeating himself)… “Will have to do some research if you want specifics.

    Yes. Please.

    BTW, is there any reason you seem to repeat yourself so often (word for word) in the same post?


  37. I will repeat ad nauseum.
    Those who have something to hide should not be politicians.

    If you have no intention of stealing or accepting bribes, declare your assets and run for office.

    Many millionaires are politicians here in Canada. Sometimes they are discovered to have conflicts of interest and it is dealt with as prescribed by law.

    This government has painted itself into a corner and must pass this legislation.


  38. @ David
    IL is about as relevant as CSME.

    What integrity legislation what??!!
    Those crooks will just laugh at that, and continue to play their crooked games like they do in other jurisdictions that have it.

    This is a NON ISSUE. But the solution is staring us in the face. Here we are using the latest integrity technology to call for an outdated failed IL mechanism.

    David, as BU Boss you have it in your hands to provide a 21st century Integrity mechanism TOMORROW!!

    Let us start a systematic, coordinated, whistle blowing blog that provides honest law abiding citizens with the mechanism to ANONYMOUSLY identify and highlight crookedness at all levels in Barbados.

    Call it ‘DE BAJAN TRUTH’. It can be as simple as the ongoing fire service blog or as complex as a series of forensic, investigative, journalistic reports.

    If you feel guilty about exposing the crooks, you can also start a blog to expose honest and patriotic contributors. … call that BAJAN NISE-NESS’. Let us anonymously recognize excellent work, honesty, selflessness and community spirit.

    When will we realize that politicians are not on our side?
    When will we stop allowing ourselves to be made fools of?
    When will we stop waiting on the enemy to protect us…?
    Stuuppsss

    Man David start the thing and appoint Caswell as deputy editor in Chief do!…


    • @Bush Tea

      The IL would give the people a yardstick by which to measure. It would bring some structure to it.


  39. I will repeat ad nauseum.
    Those who have something to hide should not be politicians.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    It is less about having nothing to hide and more about having something to show in the beginning.
    Things might get messy at the end, if you have lots to show and even more to hide.

    Why is it not practical to ask a man to build his own gallows?


  40. Integrity Legislation is fine but I am more concerned with where the hell these political parties are getting their financing from …! Political Parties should be forced to make public their source and application of funds 🙂


  41. BTW Carson C. Cadogan,

    Bloggers (anonymous or otherwise) are not paid for by tax payers and are not entrusted with the nations wealth (and future).


  42. Wha’ happen to the promised Contractor General?

    Seems to me that taking away the gift of wrongly awarding lucrative contracts, would greatly reduce the current perception of ministerial corruption, and at the same time take away the contentious issue of annual financial disclosures.


  43. My goodness, anonymous DAVID is still anonymous DAVID.

    I thought that during the night Anonymous DAVID would have passed his own Transparency Legislation and by now we would all know who he is.

    I guess it is easier to demand of others what you don’t do yourself.

    Leading by example is really a thing of the past.


    • @anthony

      Thanks for your support but leave CCC alone, for the moment.

      We will do a piece on the CBC in due course and the continued politicization of news by Ruedon Eversley.


  44. If you don’t like it ccc you can leave noone else seems to be bothered but you :). David does a free public service, Political are paid and should be accountable.


  45. BAFBAP RATTRAP YAPRAP
    or whatever yuh name is
    You with that shite talk about Rapture ?
    Wunna people is sumting else
    I REALYED what was being said and you all behaving like I was the one who said that it will happen.
    LAY OFF THE SHIT -BAFBPA- BARCAT–RATTRAP or whatever the frigg hole yuh name is


  46. David
    I’m convinced C C C is a staunch supporter of the BLP and is spouting his foolishness to get fellow bloggers to dislike the DLP. It is either that or the person ( C C C ) is a downright jackass, SIMPLE


  47. anthony

    Dreams are the stuff life is made of, and I have a dream that one day DAVID will do that which he is demanding of others in the House of Assembly


  48. DAVID

    “politicization of news by Ruedon Eversley”

    That started with the Barbados Labour Party. You know that better than anybody. Not that what you are saying is correct.

    You are disappointing me, you are becoming forgetful in your old age.


  49. David there are many DLP supporters who are not very well educated.
    I am one of them.

    So my position is tarnished in its simplicity.

    Integrity legislation is required in Barbados as soon as possible.
    A Freedom of information act should be enacted at the same time.

    Those who have a problem with this should resign and become ordinary citizens.
    Those who want to serve as politicians should be prepared to disclose there assets.

    There is no one compelling a citizen to become a politician.


  50. DAVID

    Now you are cherry picking information. You can do better than that to make a point.


  51. It is obvious ALL these politicians have something to hide, they came into politics to serve the people until they get a seat. After that it is self, most of them become arrogant and “pigheaded”, but they forget that the voters is really they employers, so when the day of decision comes many are found wanting, yet other politicians fall into the same trap. The DLP highlighted the ill deeds of the BLP, now in one term of office they seem to have more ill deeds in there coffers than the B’s had in three terms in office. We need a new party or until then return to the lesser of the two evils, the BLP.


  52. @the Scout: “We need a new party or until then return to the lesser of the two evils, the BLP.

    Since it is clear that there isn’t a viable third party here in Barbados…

    …may I make a suggestion? When a party or a candidate says to you “I promise you this” you answer “Can I get that in binding writing? On paper with your and my name on it. With your and my signatures. And with a penalty clause?”.


  53. Scout
    You must be joking right.
    It will take the DLP about 25 years to do the misdeeds of the BLP over the last fourteen years.
    The BLP or DLP does not want the legislation but the DLP said that they are not for their assets being declared every year but BLP spokesman Dale Marshall protested about nearly every clause but especially said they do not want the legislation to disclose who gave them money for the election. Scout do you see where he wants to hide the corruption. On that very point the Electorate of Barbados should keep the BLP far from the Treasury for the next ten years.
    Scout we cannot trust these people with this government again just yet.
    For example Noel Lynch was asked on a radio program how he was able to accumulate so much wealth over such a short time and he walked out of the studio. What would have prompted that question?


  54. why not let the citizens take this bull by the horn. When a person declares themselve as a political candidate.there should first go before a committe made up of ordinary citizens who inturn wolud ask tem questions relating to their character.e.g
    Have you ever been accused of domestic voilence.
    Have you evercheated on your income taxes ?
    Are you currently married and if so are you and your spouse living together?
    Are you currently employed ? if not how do you earn your living?
    A lie detector would also be helpful in weeding out the liars.
    This process should be repeated every election cycle.this would give the voter a birds eye view of the character of these politicians.
    t


  55. I think there may be enough of you political pundits right here on BU who see the need for a viable third party, to form one. So get busy and organize yourselves. Who among you would be leader of the party. . .King David?


  56. DLP HAS FAILED BIGTIME

    WHAT MISDEEDS OF THE BLP ?
    MAKING THE COUNTRY GOOD FOR LIVING ?
    ALL THE MISDEEDS YUH TALKING ABOUT–MORE PEOPLE WANTED TO LIVE IN BARBADOS THAN EVER.


  57. Tina Roach, as I recall, you did much more than bring news of the “rapture”. You were positively gloating! I will see if I can pull up some quotes.

    Good idea, AC. I am not canvassed, but what do people and politicians talk about on those occasions?


  58. Here you go…

    Tina Roach | May 15, 2011 at 7:12 PM |
    I told allyuh that people were talking about MAY 21
    THE END OF THE WORLD
    and Islandgal and cohorts cussed me

    Now please cuss the Advocate
    To the assertion that Nobody knows when

    The people promoting the END address this question quite logically and believable


  59. it doesn’t matter how many political parties we have it is the character of the politician that really counts . we the people must start with the first stage of getting to know their mindset before giving our approval. it is the countries lost or gain .it is our civil rigt and duty todo so.because after they are elected it is too late as is the case with IL.


  60. i will venture to say that if or when IL is passed it would be a skeketon or watered down version to appease the masses.


  61. Basement General | July 26, 2011 at 8:43 PM |
    “If I live to see IL come to pass,I will eat my shoe!”
    Yuh shoes safe man dem gine last anudder 25 years wid des kiss muh rass politicians bout hey.


  62. I will bet all the tea in China that if all the Politicians in the House of Assembly were WHITE INDIAN OR CHINESE, they would be NO CALLS on this blog for Tranparency Legislation.

    If Cow Williams were PRIME MINISTER, Allan Fields were Minister of Finance and the Country battling the worst recession in History as now everyone on this blog would be silent.


  63. Nonsense, CCC, your red or rather WHITE herring will not work this time…we vote for BLACKISH MPS and we demand certain standards from them. Cow or Allan Fields would not win a seat in Parliament.


  64. jack spratt

    Ok, I see. This is just about Black People trying their utmost best to pull down other Black People.

    Crabs in a basket.


  65. No,CCC, it’s about blackish people trying not to make other blackish people embarrass their race by teefing!


    • No Hants, politicians in this part of the world at least are in it for the access it gives to money making and securing their power structures.


  66. Canada has a great model to follow. IL and a FOI act has worked for Canada.

    Why not Barbados?

    Don’t politicians claim to be in politics to serve their constituents and their country?


  67. When all else fails these political types or their rabid supporters always introduce the “poor black man” angle. Noel Lynch and Mascoll tried it and CCC always references it when he tries to defend the DLP.

    Integrity legislation isn’t about “Black People trying their utmost best to pull down other Black People”. It is about elected representatives of whatever stripe enacting legislation that governs their conduct (with special interest to their financial affairs) while in office. Politicians in Barbados should welcome this legislation; it would help quell some of the rampant “rumours” which circulate after they are elected.

    Many of these politicians pay lip service to the idea of Integrity legislation but in reality thwart the successful passing of this law at every turn; seldom do we see any unanimity in Parliament except on this topic one generation to the other 1979 into the millennium ……..

    The question is what do they have to hide?


  68. So David IL and a FOI will eliminate those who are in politics “for the money”.
    They will just have to work like the rest of us and leave politics to those who have the character to truly serve their people and their country.


  69. Sargeant

    “The question is what do they have to hide?”

    This thread is so comical.

    A bunch of people hiding behind Monikers and screaming for transparency from others.

    You guys are more fun than a barrel of monkeys!


  70. @ Carson C. Cadogan.

    I am not a politician. I do not make decisions on how taxpayers money is spent.

    I don’t do business with Government agencies.

    I can hide behind “Hants” because I am not a politician and don’t work on Government contracts.

    Just like you CCC I support the DLP but have seen the benefits of IL and FOI where I currently live.


  71. @ac | July 27, 2011 at 6:31 AM | it doesn’t matter how many political parties we have it is the character of the politician that really counts . we the people must start with the first stage of getting to know their mindset before giving our approval. it is the countries lost or gain .it is our civil rigt and duty todo so.because after they are elected it is too late as is the case with IL.
    ====================
    Such a simplistic view ac. How do you propose to get to know their mindsets? That is what election campaigning is suppose to do, but obviously they lie to us and deceive us everytime. But somebody has to run the country. What are you going to do if you don’t find enough candidates with mindsets that you approve of? Who’s going to run the country then?


  72. Jack Spratt !
    What point are you trying to prove ?

    I was merely relaying information for discussion
    Where did I say I believed um ?


  73. @ David

    No Hants, politicians in this part of the world at least are in it for the access it gives to money making and securing their power structures.
    ____________________________________________________________

    ALL politicians A LL, ALL get into politics for POWER!!!!


  74. Read your last line again, Ms Roach…is that BELIEVABLE? Does anyone know a Carson C Cadogan? I do not believe that is a real name!


  75. @zack
    Before you form a simplistic opinion you should have read my earlier posting, There is nothing simplistic about that.

    The media in Barbados has been a disaster into uncovering which can been called unseemly behaviour by some of those who are seeking political office preferring rather to hid information from the public which would be helpful when the public go to cast a vote and this serves no purpose except to those whose interest it serves.no one should be allowed to manage the affairs of a country when their lives are subject to public scrutiny. The public should be made aware of their misdoings before we cast a vote .The vote is for the country and not for the politician because a person have a million degrees behind his name doesn’t make him trustworthy.


  76. @CCC

    This thread is so comical.
    A bunch of people hiding behind Monikers and screaming for transparency from others.
    *******************
    There is a quote of unknown origin which goes as follows: “Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt”
    The same people whom you referenced are among the many that were actively campaigning against the BLP on these blogs. Evidently anonymity was fine then but not so great now that the target is the DLP for failing to live up to their campaign promise. Where do you think Thompson got the idea for FOI and Integrity legislation?

    That campaign promise is now a loaded gun against the DLP heads and the Electorate may pull the trigger next time.

    Will you be laughing then? He who laughs last laughs best.


    • @Sargeant

      As we understand a big problem for all governments is the lackadaisical effort coming out of the Chief Parliamentary Counsel (CPC) office.

      As a country we really need to get our hindquarters i gear.


  77. If the electorate is calling for transparency – we ought to verify the name, address of the ‘speaker’ and to ensure that the ‘caller’ has nothing to hide whilst calling for every one else to be exposed.

    Tell me that we cannot understand what CCC is saying. If David is representing the electorate in calling for transparency and being adamant about his call … shouldn’t I know who David is and that he is a law abiding citizen of Barbados? And, should I not form my own opinion based on facts on David that I researched to affirm that he is who he says he is and is truly interested in my well-being and welfare.

    If you are calling for transparency … what I am seeing CCC asking or stating is … BE TRANSPARENT FIRST THEN with due respect and benevolence others will follow suit without compromise and fear.
    Can anyone in sound mind refute CCC’s comments. Note I say in sound mind.


  78. @Home: “Can anyone in sound mind refute CCC’s comments. Note I say in sound mind.

    Yes.

    I can. As someone who always uses their real name when posting.

    CCC is speaking behind an alias. Much like you. In fact, there is reason to believe you and CCC are working together if you are not actually the same person.

    In my opinion, BU.David is doing a very good job of enabling free speech here in Barbados. Something which is sorely needed.

    Some don’t like that.

    Before you and CCC have the gall to demand BU.David to reveal himself, might you and yours have the balls to do so first?

    (@Audience: please understand that Barbados Underground (BU) operates under the sufferance of Word Press. By inference, they must be comfortable with what BU and BU.David is doing.)


  79. David is not a member of government with the ready availability of being able to have his hands stuck in the public purse. So just why should he be asked to reveal his ID. Go fly a kite CCC, u dumb ass dlp asslicker!


  80. @Chris. We were given the leverage to use anonymity. I believe that regardless of our postings we are all doing a good job in recognizing a subject and responding with emotion, however high we take our emotions. We are communicating our thoughts, feelings with emotion. That is a very good job.

    You accuse me. I think that that is your right to share your thoughts and you are given a forum to do so. Do I know whom you are, no I don’t. Neither do I know CCC – have no idea whom he is. I share his view whether in part or in whole I share his view.

    I also share you view that BU is doing a good job does that make me Christopher Halsall now? Chris you actually agree with CCC seeing that you are asking me to have balls you are implying that David does not have any balls but you do by using your real name.

    So much for supporting David. My mother says when your own dog bites you you are well bitten.

    Wouldn’t we all have used our real names had David ‘…DONE SO FIRST.’

    We all know that the letters to the newspapers are anonymous (most of them).


  81. Christopher Hatsall
    It must be recognised that it wasn’t David who declared 100 days in office will see IL abd FOI enacted. The DLP under then leader, the late David Thompson was adament about this while campaigning and voters believed him, maybe now that he is dead there is a change of heart within the hearts of the elected DLP MP’s but certainly not in the hearts of the voting public. The DLP, under Mr Stuart MUST explain to the voting public why IL and FOI has been placed on the backburner and only brought forward just before elections and the heat lowered under it. I want the DLP to know they are dealing with intelligent people.It seems the only defense the DLP has is to let loose their yardfowls with their gutter politics

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