Attorney General, Minister Adriel Brathwaite

Supposing any of you are widowed.

Supposing that you and your late husband had worked all your lives to accumulate a little nest egg to secure financial comfort in your golden years and that everything you own was in your husband’s name.

The funeral is over and you go to the lawyers and ask them to obtain probate in your husband’s estate so that you can continue to have the means to live (either in accordance with your husband’s Will or he may have died intestate, let us deal with the intestate part another time.)  The lawyers will enter the Will for probate.

There was a time in Barbados and in some other jurisdictions, the process of probate would have taken between 6 and 12 weeks from the time the lawyers filed the application.

Today, the Registry takes TWO (2) YEARS.

So what are your avenues for recourse? Remember, your husband’s assets are FROZEN until probate is granted. You rely on the charity of family and friends.

You take a copy of your late husband’s Will to the bank and arrange (with all the stress that goes with dealing with banks) to borrow money at the prevailing interest rate in lieu of completion of the probate in your husband’s estate, or you go to other individuals or institutions that may charge you even more interest.

You find that the house previously occupied by your husband and yourself is too large and the maintenance is too expensive and you want to downsize. Forget it, you are unfortunately positioned! You have to stick it out. All the hard work, sweat and effort of your late husband and you to provide for your comfort and security in your old age is as NOTHING!

In many cases, the Will might have as its executor a lawyer or someone entitled to charge for services to perform as executor. The job of the executor is to wind-up the Estate as soon as possible. But, two (2) years later, you see executor’s fees that have escalated, in many cases, to a point where you might just as well sign over the entire Estate to the executor and those who have loaned you money.

Three years ago, it was taking an unacceptable one year to obtain probate. Today, it takes TWO years. At this rate, in another three years you may be waiting three, four or even FIVE years. God Knows!

Here is yet another instance of the surrender of the so-called “Justice System” in Barbados. The fault lies squarely at the door of the Registrar of the Courts and the army of occupation charged with ensuring an efficient administration of the court. To boot, successive governments have preferred to sacrifice efficient oversight of justice in Barbados at the altar of political expediency as well as not to rock the boat with civil servants. Let us not bother to mention that one time the Arthur administration breached a tenet long established of making CJ appointments which did not breed the thought of political  mischief.

The fact that many of these civil servants themselves are haunted by the Registrar/Government trap that negates all their efforts to provide for themselves in their old age, has absolutely no effect whatsoever.

here is news for the Registrar and Government. Foreign ownership in Barbados is a fact of life with all these multi-million dollar homes, so there are foreigners caught up in the Registrar and Government’s inexcusable conduct. The news of Barbados’ stressed Legal System has already spread internationally. We have  seen the terminal state of foreign off-shore investment. So, how much longer before our top-end property market starts to fall.

And who suffers for it? GUESS!

BU invites all those who suffer under this oppressive Judicial System to share their experiences. Let us all complain LOUDLY and OFTEN until something is done.

49 responses to “The PEOPLE Crying Out For Justice From The Barbados Courts”


  1. @David

    After the death of an immediate family member in Bim, the probate was completed within a year, it helped that most assets were in joint names except the house and this was quickly rectified.

    Please don’t blame the courts for all the delays, some executors to be charitable don’t know their ass from their elbows and some are downright thieves who try to defraud the beneficiaries of their rightful inheritance, many of these beneficiaries are poor and unsophisticated and don’t know who to turn to foe assistance.

    There are also lawyers who have their own interests at heart and are looking to benefit from an Estate to the detriment of the client.

    Everyone should make a Will it provides clear directions to all as to how your estate should be managed after you are gone. A Will should also remove many of the impediments that the family will face if they have to apply for Letters Testamentary (not sure if the name has changed)


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  3. Executors are unpaid agents. Normally a probate, depending on the complexity of the estate, should take 4 to 6 months. However, there are many vagaries (the intentional ones apart) that can bring about long delay in the completion of a Probate Application. The executor must act with promptitude in consulting and instructing an attorney-at-law, the Will, the related documents, i.e. titles, should be available for perusal, and the witness who subscribed the will must be available to execute the Affidavit of Attestation, and the attorney-at-law must act diligently in expediting the matter. However, sometimes witnesses cannot be easily found and that contributes to the delay. The executor, albeit an unpaid job, must take his responsibility under the Will of the deceased seriously and perform it with all due dispatch. The testator appointed him in that capacity because he trusted him to see to the welfare of his family after he is gone. There should be no conflict of interest, if that happens then he must be removed forthwith.
    But even when all things are in order, the attorney-at-law still has to deal with that huge white elephant at the Registry. Sometimes files are dealt with by kisses and favours. You have to massage peoples ego and nice up to them to get your file checked. If you get upset by delays and tardiness, and you demand professional service that you the taxpayers are paying the clerk for, your file will end up cabinet all the way over there in the isolated corner. It will be checked and presented to the Registrar or Deputy Registrar when the clerk jolly well feel to do so.
    This pathological work ethic is not good enough and it is down right disgusting. I am not a masseuse. Persons who are paid out of the public purse to render a public service should have a presence of mind to execute it with due diligence so that those who are depending on the settlement of an estate to maintain themselves do not have to suffer a second.
    Attorneys-at-law who deal with these matters must honour their fee and their obligation to their clients and act with all reasonable care and due diligence so that the beneficiaries do not have to suffer a loss two times over.
    If members of the public wish to get wholesome professional service from the Registry and the legal profession they must unrelentingly demand it from them.


  4. @Sargeant | June 27, 2011 at 11:33 PM. If property is jointly held, that property cannot be frozen until both parties have died. David and BU are correct. It is now taking 2 years to obtain probate. That is inexcusably onorous for the beneficiaries. Also, while the points may be true about some executors delaying things, this is an exception rather than a rule. However, the 2 year delays in probates are not an exception, but a fact.

    I would also point out that many people write a paper and sign it in front of two witnesses (or just sign it) in the belief (correct) that this constitutes a will. It is not complicated, but it takes 2 years to probate.

    This is one instance in which you cannot and must not blame tne lawyers. The blame for this gross miscarriage of justice has to be placed squarely on the Registry and the Registrar and our failed justice system.


  5. @Sargeant

    You should consider yourself very lucky. The horror stories emanating from the Registry speaks to the injustice being visited on people seeking justice almost on daily basis.


  6. It gets worse when the “beneficiaries” die before the will is probated. Should the beneficiaries die intestate then all is lost!

  7. just only asking Avatar
    just only asking

    @Ping Pong

    Those who have a vested interest in the estate is still entitled. If the benficiaries named in a will died before probatin, thier estate is entitled to benefit whoever the estate is. IT Could be their children, if not children, their brothers and sisters etc. The point is you prove your entitlement. One like this i expect to take some time to be resolved.

    This is something the NUPW should be addressing, peoples’ attitude to work. A lot of Public Officers believe that the public should stoke their egos or give them tit bits to do their jobs. Something needs to be done to solve some of the many problems in Registration Departments, including the mistakes that are made regularly. I have seen that department repeat a mistake even the previous year it was brought to the clerk’s attention. Cant say much or elaborate, but i was pissed..


  8. @just only asking

    This is something the NUPW should be addressing, peoples’ attitude to work. A lot of Public Officers believe that the public should stoke their egos or give them tit bits to do their jobs. Something needs to be done to solve some of the many problems in Registration Departments, including the mistakes that are made regularly. I have seen that department repeat a mistake even the previous year it was brought to the clerk’s attention. Cant say much or elaborate, but i was pissed..

    You raise a good point. The unions should be partly to blame for the inefficiency and mediocrity at the Registry and elsewhere in the public service.

    We hold our social partnership up for praise but this is the stuff we should be measuring it by, improving national productivity.

  9. just only asking Avatar
    just only asking

    I agree with you mre than 100%. You have people keeping files on their desks for months and sometimes years. I have a classic example, i was looking for some files for a while, guess what, the person who just went on vacation place a note on them, she had them while she was acting for me last years. Things like this, i brought to senior management attention, nothing happens, so what do i do, become apathetic or continue to talk about such behaviour?

    Leaders must lead, i wil say that over and over. The union in some instances is to balme for the malaisse, but sometimes those in authority also, some of them dont even care about two firm wukups, their salaries and alllowances are assured.


  10. I know of an estate that is yet to be settled and it is 30 years since the death of the testator.

    It depends on who wants what from whom and what the various actors in the piece are prepared to do.

    In some ways it is sad and yet still amusing to watch the antics of the various interested parties and officials involved.

    It is also difficult to believe.

    History is there to show that this is not new. In the 1800’s it happened in the Alleyne family of St. James.

    Memory fails me now but I think it took 50 years to settle and spanned both sides of the Atlantic world.

    I just need to consult a book I was given to refresh my memory when I get the chance.

    In time however the particular Alleyne Estate was finally settled just as no doubt this particular modern day one will be too.


  11. @ Shakaelu

    Executors are unpaid agents
    **************************

    Are you sure about that? They are entitled to compensation in Canada, I’m fairly sure that the same applies in Barbados.


  12. @ Ping Pong | June 28, 2011 at 3:26 AM. I have to agree with @ just only asking | June 28, 2011 at 5:05 AM to the extent that because a beneficiary of a will dies before probate, the claim of their beneficiaries or, in the case of intestacy, heirs-at-law, does not cease.

    Your comment, however, that the rights of beneficiaries can (and are) severely prejudiced stands.

    Suppose I left my children my estate equally, it would clearly be my intention that my children, not their heirs, derive benefit from my estate for their comfort. It would not be my intention that my children have to wait on the whim of some lazy jackass registrar and Registry for years on end or until one or all of them dead so that their heirs could benefit. It would not be my intention that my children have to involve themselves in endless disputes with the legal system (so-called) in Barbados for years and then dead and see all the benefits go to my grandchildren. Also, it would not be my intent that my estate be swallowed up by lawyers’ bills and executors’ bills so that the only people who benefit are the lawyers and the executors.

    Worse still is the loss of business opportunities for investment and profit that my children would have lost, all thanks to an incompetent Registry, Registrar and justice system. Worst, of course, is the possibility that whatever I left to my children might have allowed them to obtain specialised medical treatment, if needed, but this is then denied them by Registry, Registrar and in-justice system.


  13. @Just only asking & Amused

    Amused’s post at 8:21 am says it all! Statutes and legal conventions grant each of us rights but real ‘flesh and blood’ people make the enjoyment of these rights possible or impossible.

    I am told that the situation at the registry is exacerbated by the fact that the person in the registrar’s post is “acting” while the “real” registrar is acting as a judge.


  14. Noticed Sandra was at the opening of the Judicial Centre having a good conversation with the PM. It appears the PM was tickled by the conversation.y the conversation.


  15. My friends, while I appreciate that some persons may be angry about the state of affairs at the Registry re probate, I would suggest that we temporize our use of language. I do not believe the situation has anything to do with the acting position of the Registrar. These problems were there long before she was appointed to act in the position. I have stated earlier that executors are unpaid agents, save and except, there is a clause in the Will which entitles the executor to take a benefit under the same. Therefore executors should not be carting off whole chunks of the estate for themselves. The law does not allow executors to benefit unless specifically so appointed because executors have a fiduciary duty to the beneficiaries. A fiduciary is not allowed to benefit from his position. The rational for this is to prevent conflict of interest.
    I believe what is required to resolve some of these difficulties which members of the public have been experiencing for a protracted period of time is for us to continue to write in fora like this one to ventilate our dissatisfaction. We must also call upon the Minister who is in charge of that Ministry, and our own representative to fix the problem.
    Those attorneys-at-law who are not part of the problem are right there in the situation and they should regularly lodge complaints against those recalcitrant clerks.
    We should not categorically condemn the judicial system, it has many flaws because it was constructed and it is managed by human beings. But the legal system in Barbados has served us well for the most part. However, through our public discourse on the subject matter we can seek ways and means to resolve some of the difficulties within the system.


  16. If we are being asked to give a pass to the Registrar then it begs the question what is the role of the position. On what basis is that person usually elevated to the bench and in all probability aspire to be CJ.

    What are we saying?

  17. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    How can things be so bad when David Simmons “did such a wonderful job”?

    Even the present Bar Assoc. President was angry when David was not allowed to extend his tenure.


  18. @ Amused wrote “then dead and see all the benefits go to my grandchildren.”

    “Worse still is the loss of business opportunities for investment and profit that my children would have lost,”.

    Talking about my Dad?


  19. The loss of business opportunities for investment and profit is a cruel punishment for children whose parents worked hard and left them an inheritance.

    These horror stories are keeping a lot of overseas bajans out of Barbados.


  20. About a year ago I attended the Registry,filled out the requisite form of applicatio for a death certificate,paid the “appropriate”fee and was told to return three days later to pick up the certificate.I returned 3 days later and was told the certificate was “not ready” and that I should return the next day.I returned the following day and was told it was “still not ready” I asked to speak to the supervisor.She eventually came and referred me to the “manager”of the department.He eventually cam,e out of his office and repeated the same exactly what the “receptionist” had told me.My attention was drawn to a notice prominently displayed at the front advising that if certificates are not picked up within a certain time frame,they will be disposed of.There are at least ten if not more people working in the area who seem to spend all their time doing little or nothing.I am compelled to ask,Why would anyone waste valuable time going to the Registry ?


  21. Much the same happens in every office in Barbados.
    We has de power so wait man come back tomorrow or de next day/month /year.

  22. just only asking Avatar
    just only asking

    @Carson

    Lets us discuss this topic ratinally and objectively. It appears that the registration unit has gone to sleep. It makes too much errors and a department like that should be mindful of the consequences of errors. Yes, i did not lkie the way Davis Simmons was appointed and yes I believe he did not deleiver what he had promised, but poor people are the ones who are most impacted because in some instances they dont have any networking or what they have is low level.


  23. The current issue raised by the LEX Caribbean revelation that Parris’ lawyer has promised several times to produce the ‘document’ which is the basis for the 10 million law suit filed by Parris against Clico Holdings.

    It speaks to the integrity of the lawyer in question and why there is the prevailing perception of distrust in Barbados.Parris’ lawyer has promised several times to produce the ‘document’ which is the basis for the 10 million law suit filed by Parris against Clico Holdings.

    It speaks to the integrity of the lawyer in question and why there is the prevailing perception of distrust in Barbados.


  24. David, please exercise care when you criticize a lawyer directly. You may be sued for defamation. Lawyers use the strategy that is best suited to their clients case. Remember a court battle is about winning not necessarily about justice or integrity.
    However, I do share your grave concern about the tremendous distrust which the general public now have of lawyers. That is regrettable indeed. But it is no justification for the condemnation of all lawyers – there are some who still has integrity.
    The disgust that presently prevails in Barbados for lawyers cut both ways. There are lawyers and some who aspire to be lawyers who are turned off by the lumping of everybody in one basket. Why should Peter have to pay for Paul?


  25. @Shakaelu

    Your cautious is noted but the query stands, how is it the lawyer can make a promise repeatedly to another lawyer/law firm and this is not considered unethical?


  26. @Shakaelu,

    Normally that would be a fair point, unfortunately due to systemic problems in the legal process, the issue has become a national concern and the all has been tainted by the few, sad but true.

    Maybe that is the reason, aside from the pay cut, that the potential candidate is now not around, maybe (I am speculating) he actually did realise that he would be stepping into a can of snakes and the job would not merely be administering and giving guidance to his colleagues, but sorting out a mammoth issue. At 56 or whatever, one’s blood pressure better be up to such a task.

    That there is a mammoth issue cannot be disputed and yes, the majority of lawyers must bear some blamce, because that is why they have a bar association to present their case and they should agitate for better.

    Silence in this case has been, correctly or incorrectly, as acceptance and agreement.

    A statement by the President cannot be enough, not when the former and now replacement head of the CCJ has lambasted the local arena.

    Something is wrong, when cases traverse decades.


  27. David re. your post of June 29, 2011 at 12:16 PM;

    The LEX Caribbean “revelation” speaks not necessarily to a possible lack of integrity, amongst other things, of Parris’ Lawyer, but to a singular lack of concern for its client, CLICO, by LEX Caribbean. Imagine!. Someone sues your client for 10 Million big ones and you wait for months hoping to get a piece of paper from the suer, a piece of paper, mind you, that is inimical to your case, if it indeed existed. They wait so long for that piece of paper that the period for the response to the suit expires, totally exposing their client to the possibility of having to pay out 10 million dollars for a claim which it would appear the claimant cannot now prove and which, if the Firm had acted expeditiously, would have been stillborn.

    Would you want that firm to represent your interests if you were a bona fide normal client? Is it possible that there is a huge amount in the mortar besides the pestle? Is it possible that CLICO’s lawyer’s interests lie not in the policy holders, and the firm itself, etc. but in protecting the interests of certain bigshots, Could it be that the “revelation” says more about the lawyers associated with CLICO and its current and former executives than about the integrity of Parris’ lawyer per se.? Could it be that CLICO itself is counterintuitively but strategically positioning Parris to get all the money claimed despite his lawyer not being in a position to bring forward the main evidence to support his claim?


  28. David and Crusoe, I do understand the point that both of you are making. I have had my own tribulations with lawyers, nonetheless I must be fair and balance as far as possible because this is a public media and what we say here will impact widely. We have a responsibility to be fair. I have also had my share of rabid journalism. My experiences have taught me to approach public disputes with caution and to exercise reasonable care in what I say publicly.
    No doubt the state of affairs with lawyers according to the current public perception is grave and the members of the public are obliged to bring this into public discourse to agitate for better service and accountability.
    Crusoe, the reason(s) as to why the CJ designate has not taken up the position has not been made public, a part from the need for legislative amendment, not unless you are privy to the facts and can therefore speak with authority on the subject. If this is not the case then comment with care. Once a CJ is appointed under the constitution of Barbados he has security of tenure and he can only be removed for misbehaviour. This is one of the corner stone of an independent judiciary. It is only where a CJ is given an acting appointment that the independence of the judiciary becomes worrisome. The present acting CJ has been a public servant for over 40 years and he has rendered yeoman service to this country and he should never have been placed in the present predicament. It would have been more respectable if he was appointed in the position and upon or near to his retirement then the present changes that are being contemplated could be put in place for future appointments. Laws are not etched in stone, society is dynamic and therefore it is necessary that the law has sufficient flexibility so as to be able to change with the social changes. This not to say that the law must change or shift with ever wind of change that blows because the law also needs to be stable and certain to provide guidance for our daily activities. But I must press the point that judicial officers should never, never have to live in a situation that is less than that which the dignity of the office requires.
    Anyway, the salient point which I wish to make is that an appointed CJ has very little to fear in the execution of his duties.
    When we hold positions of authority that impact the lives of others we should be wary of setting a bad precedent. If we kill and eat all of our sacred cows what will be left for our posterity?


  29. @ David
    The bushman understands that there are eternal optimists…. but you seem to be an ‘unrepentant optimist’ – a creature just beyond Bushies’ imagination.

    When will you get it through your skull that the dog dead! The system mash up!! GRANNY Gone!!
    Freundel, Owen and Mia are out to sea..!!

    Our legal system is a colossal joke. It has been for some time now – its just that UNTIL BU, this was only discussed in hushed whispers at cocktail parties; by aggrieved parties behind closed doors; and in the editorial rooms when decisions were being taken NOT to publish the harsh truth.

    What do you expect from a collection of lawyers who are best described by BAFBFP- ….and administrators and clerks who are clearly selected from the bottom of the pile….?

    ….and does a set of mindless, myopic, mendicant sheeple really deserve any better…?

    What Marston solve what problem What??!!
    “..you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear” ….and even if you could, it would be unappreciated by the sheeple….all they want is a drink and a blackberry.

  30. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    One of the cornerstones of our “democracy” is the notion of an independent judiciary. An acting Chief Justice cannot be said to be truly independent because he could be removed at any time. The problem does not necessarily come from the judicial officer: the problem comes when a person sues the Government and loses. There will always be the perception in that person’s mind that his loss was due to the fact that the judge is not permanently employed, and did not want to offend the person who could permanently employ him. JUSTICE MUST NOT ONLY BE DONE BUT MUST BE SEEN TO BE DONE.
    Right now the failure to appoint a chief justice for over a year has severely harmed the notion of an independent judiciary. Government must realise that Barbados is fast becoming a laughing stock, and its inaction is impairing the credibility of our judicial system.


  31. @ Caswell
    You ‘job security’ position does have some merit, but far more relevant is the general lack of ‘balls’ that is endemic throughout the system.

    How many have the testes to go against ‘the system’. …and there are (too?) many of the big-ups in the system that are biologically ball-less to begin with….

    Face it Caswell, these people have little interest in JUSTICE, most are FAR more interested in ‘working the system’ for their political, financial, social and egotistical benefit….
    ….this usually means that those with ‘means’ and who can provide favours- are generally well served by the system. THEY are the only ones laughing – at the rest of us…

    The test of a credible justice system is the extent to which the ‘poor widow’ has access to justice and fair treatment. …..how would you score that test here?


  32. How is it a country that has invested so much money in education would all said system to become consume by greed and a lethargy?

    Don’t believe it!

    One has to reasonably believe that groups within our society will rise up.


  33. @ David
    One has to reasonably believe that groups within our society will rise up.
    *********************************
    LOL ROTFL Ha Ha Ha
    …..unrepentant optimist…


  34. Justice for the people should begin with the locking up of scores of crooked theiving lawyers.
    Shell Harris boychild my Harrisonian schoolmate Leroy Lynch in prison taking it on the chin for the huge number of dishonest attorneys out there.


  35. @Caswell Franklyn | June 29, 2011 at 8:22 PM. I was glad to see that you have joined this debate. As you know, you and I agree sometimes and violently disagree other times. I’m afraid this is one of the other times.

    Whether an acting chief justice or ANYONE can be replaced at any time ought NOT to affect their impartiality. If you undertake to do a job and one of the conditions of your employment is that you can be replaced at any time and you accept those terms and are paid according to those terms, you have no right (legal of moral) to fail to properly do the job on the basis that it is not permanent. That is the unacceptable fiction that UNIONS in Barbados have been trying to get people to accept, to the ruination of all of our public offices, especially the Registry.

    You go on to say, “Right now the failure to appoint a chief justice for over a year has severely harmed the notion of an independent judiciary.” Give me a break. The notion of an independent judiciary was severely harmed when an attorney general (a political office) was immediately made chief justice. That this attorney general/chief justice then singularly failed to do his job and exacerbated this by appointing incompetents to the bench and maintaining the lamentable standards of the Registry set up by his wife.

    CF, if I didn’t know better, I would think you were either DS or his brother PS.

    What this government has done is failed to address the rot it inherited, because it doesn’t want to take on the Union. That failure has perpetuated the rot and has now placed Barbados’ foreign investments at crisis level.

    It appears to me that while the people of Barbados have become increasingly more international in their outlook and are looking at how other see us, respective governments and the unions are still mentally mired in a world that has not existed since the mid 80s.

    I take issue with the comment of one of the commentators who blames the state of the justice system on the lawyers. Believe me that with the state of the justice system, the lawyers are as much victims as the rest of the population – worse, they are the ones who have to endure the continuing nonsense of the judicial system on one end, and deal with the complaints of their clients about the judicial system on the other. They are caught between a rock and a hard place and are the recipients of undeserved attacks and vilification, at least in this respect. They have many faults that need to be addressed, but this is not one of them.

    @BT. Hats off to you, sir.

  36. just only asking Avatar
    just only asking

    @Amused

    I agree with your reasoning. Well articulated.


  37. Disagree. The lawyers utilise the slow and ridiculous system of perpetual deferral or postponement to their advantage, I cannot say to the advantage of their clients.

    The judges need to take a stand and hold those who perpetually defer cases in contempt. After a few of them and their clients spend a few nights up Dodds, the system will improve.

    To state that it is not the fault of the lawyers is being disingenuous and refusing to accept part ( a major part) of the blame.

    And I also disagree that an acting appointment does not bring uncertainty and prevent a fullsome way forward.

    While you have a point that work still gets done within existing parameters, yes, an acting officer at that level cannot provide the vision and direction necessary as with a substantive appointment.


  38. @Crusue

    Agree with you, the lawyers are key stakeholders in the process many of who graduate to the bench and other stations within the Judicature.


  39. @BT/DAVID ..Bush Tea | June 29, 2011 at 9:55 PM | @ David
    One has to reasonably believe that groups within our society will rise up.
    *********************************
    LOL ROTFL Ha Ha Ha
    …..unrepentant optimist…

    —————————

    Sadly, I will have to cringe as Bush Tea laughs. Because if people do not get their business handled properly and social and legal justice, continuously so, remember what the COP said very recently, that the place is rife for social unrest?

    Why exactly would he say that?

    Sorry BT, I cannot laugh, what David says holds much truth, even a rat cornered will act.

    And if we take the COP warning seriously, the ones who SHOULD act (such as the lawyers being mroe vocal about their profession and do their bit to improve it also), the ones who are less able to articulate properly but more violently will eventually act, much to our chagrin.

    And it wont be pretty.


  40. And if the lawyers and legal profession will not do it, then Parliament should pass legislaiton defining timelines for completion of cases, penalties for otherwise etc.

    Unfortunately, this will not happen because most of Parliament are lawyers.

    Are there too many lawyers in Parliament?


  41. Crusoe

    Take a look at the decisions out of CCJ on the web and you will realise that these Judges have on four separate occasions gone out of their way in decisions to upbraid local courts for delay.

    Marston Gibson highlighted all four of them individually in his interview carried on this blog.

    Last time I checked, CCJ had heard 14 appeals from Barbados … 4/14 as a % is high ….. and these four cases had big name lawyers in Barbados conducting them.

    I could be wrong but I understand the CCJ has sent and investigated the local system and a report has been done but it has not seen the light of day.

    The system is sick like the society. There are no giants left to bring it to heel, only pygmies looking for a dollar.

    In the case of the estate I referred to that is now 30 years later still up in the air, I can state it is all to do with people playing games with the system.

    True, a system on top of its own game would have snuffed these clowns out a long time ago and called them to account but the system is sick.


  42. I have only one more point to make. It is that every lawyer wants off-shore investment clients – they pay better – MUCH better. Trust me! So lawyers do NOT have a vested interest in defending an obsolete and deceased judiciary that has severely restricted foreign investments – and their incomes. Anyone in business has an eye to their profits. As you all know, lawyers have a very great interest in profits.


  43. @Amused

    Surely you are aware lawyers make up the % of policymakers in our parliament. They are in the best position to lend leadership to the matter.


  44. @David. Agreed. But they stand to make more in government and don’t want to prejudice that by shaking the Union boat.


  45. We have been waiting for 3 years for probate ,being fobbed off by the lawyer,i have had to remain in Barbados leaving my family in UK,my parents worked hard all their lives to purchase property in Barbados and retiring here in turn to leave to myself their only child…My father left a will leaving everything to me drawn up by a lawyer everything done correctly.The executor recommended a lawyer ,3 years on im still here in Barbados i dare not leave i feel that my house will be sold from under me..I dont know where to turn,i have no money to hire another lawyer i just have to wait till the lawyer responds.He doesnt return my calls ….I am at a loss


  46. Please email BU the details and attach documents.


  47. In 2016 my mother passed away pearl Blackett from thompson gap barbados she suffered from dementia and parkinson. My family Cheryl Croney-Sealy. Was the in charge of distributing the will only to find she took the house and bank money. I visited a lawyer who was in collaboration with her. I wrote to the doctor to get the report to say mum mum had dementia which would prove the case fraud Cheryl Croney-Sealy from St George. Blocked my request as she was the executors. I have lost everything to this thief. I should have known better as the year before my mother passed away she burnt herself badly and I found out two weeks later from a friend when I got to barbados I asked cheryl Croney-Sealy why she never mentioned. She said if my mum wanted me to know she would have told me herself. Cheryl Croney-Sealy sealy nephew is a lawyer Antony Worrall, he collaborated with my lawyer to block me. From my rights. Barbados law is corrupt and Cheryl Croney-Sealy sealy is a criminal. Cheryl Croney-Sealy sealy and her husband burnt down the office she worked at in Bridgetown to avoid me in town when I came for the funeral. She was suppose to be looking after my mother but she was giving her overdose of pills along with Marcia moore and Joyce Gill now remarried with a differnt surname. Mrs Blackett son from England Edward blackett.


  48. Well after reading the above, i feel something needs to be done.

    Amy mother died of cancer 2012 in St Philip. Mum left a will. We had been waiting from then till now 2023 to find five immediate family members have since passed.

    Rita Evans (Bajan lawyer no longer responds to emails) and being in the UK myself nor my brother are non the wiser.

    Sad really…


  49. You have my sympathy.
    You may see some movement in the courts as large thefts usually take 11 to 12 years before they start moving in Barbados courts.

    If it was a small sum of money, then take the loss instead of shelling out more money to fight these con men.

    If it is a large sum of money and you fight and persevere, you may win the case but it is highly unlikely that you will be paid back. Tell your new lawyer that he will be paid out of what he recovered. Hold on to what you have and try to avoid paying out any money.

    As you go through with the case, you may hear beautiful, powerful and encouraging words. Don’t fall for the con; that is how they string you along; they makes it appear as if something good is happening as they pick your pockets (again and again).

    Here is some more free advice:
    “And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, leave that place and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.”

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