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The Immigration Debate has abated because of a combination of a stagnant economy, Barbadians loudly voicing dissatisfaction at the open door immigration policy practiced by the former government and a new government whose politics is built on a hybrid ideology of socialism cum populism.

In October 2009 the government disseminated a Green Paper on Immigration which sought to stimulate discussion on these issues which drive our immigration policies and which are critical to both national security and national development. It is anticipated that on conclusion of this extensive dialogue the White Paper will therefore reflect Governmentโ€™s position on this important issue in addition to the views of the people.

True to its word the government of Barbados facilitated feedback from the public by staging town hall meetings, receiving letters and emails etc. Prime Minister David Thompson promised at the final town hall meeting in March 2010 thatย  in a matter of a few months, a white paper setting out a new immigration policy will be completed. The last time we checked about two weeks ago our parliament had not received any notification the White Paper on Immigration was ready for debate. It is interesting to note because of the illness of David Thompson Fruendel Stuart has been appointed acting Prime Prime Minister, he is on record declaring that Barbados is not ready to become the warehouse for unskilled workers in the Caribbean. He is now in a position to drive the amendment to the Immigration Law to give meat to his pronouncement.

BU has added its two cents to the immigration debate in recent years and our position is well recorded on the blog (Search โ€˜Immigrationโ€™ Keyword). Had we continued to ignore the hole in our immigration infrastructure it would have led to a free for all for people to come and go as they please, the legal and the criminal. We have always been mindful that a solid immigration infrastructure is critical to safeguarding the national security of Barbados. Who wants a system which is so vulnerable that it breeds the opportunity for criminal activity to hijack our number one money earner.

A story in the Antigua Observer (10 July 2010) supports our fear of an unbridled immigration policy in CARICOM.

Guyanese Rosaline Conway and Trinidadian Shaka Yearwood are now doing jail time for larceny and fraud. Twenty-three-year-old Conway was sentenced to two and a half years in jail, yesterday, but will only serve 20 months because Justice Errol Thomas gave her a one-third reduction for pleading guilty to larceny of over $100,000. This is in keeping with the guidelines for sentencing.

Under the Larceny Act the young woman could have been jailed for a maximum of five years. Yearwood, too, pleaded guilty to obtaining the same estimated sum by way of fraud. The 35-year-old man faced a maximum of 14 years in prison for the offence he committed which falls under the Forgery Act. Conway, who admitted to being convicted in Grenada for a similar offence, is said to be four months pregnant.

BU notes we have a Guyanese and a Trinidadian involved in criminal activity in Antigua, we note the Trinidadian has served a prison sentence in Grenada, we also note also that Guyanese Conway is said to be pregnant. Is it reasonable to assume that the non-nationals convicted in Antigua represent the beginnings of a problem which CARICOM is expected to battle as we pursue regional integration at any cost? We noted that the arrest of the two was attributed to the vigilance of the Police.

Here is a another extract from the Antigua Observer story which sums it up:

Conwayโ€™s travel documents showed she had travelled about 50 times within an eight-year period to about a dozen countries, with Antigua being the state she frequented most, some 22 times. She also travelled to the United States, Barbados, St Maarten, Trinidad & Tobago, Suriname, St Vincent & The Grenadines and the Dominican Republic.

Yearwoodโ€™s passport shows a similar thread, that he travelled about 60 times beginning in November 2000. Of the 12 countries he visited, Yearwood returned to his hometown about a dozen times. He journeyed to almost all the countries Conway did in addition to Canada and Haiti.

The government of Barbados would have suffered distractions of late however the governance of the country must go on at all cost. Yes the focus is on economic matters but our government should not forget the importance of protecting our borders. The quality of our society should not be sacrificed at the altar of CSME.


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81 responses to “Quality Of Bajan Life Must Not Be Compromised At The Altar Of CSME And Freedom Of Movement”


  1. Forward thinking intellectuals across Barbados have acknowledged and advised that CSME is critical to the survival and economic growth of our small island states in the Caribbean, but the problem is that the average Barbadian is yet to wake up and smell the coffee.


  2. I wonder which forward thinking intellectuals those are that Atman is talking about?

    The only people who think that CSME is even relevant in the growing economic crisis are those stupid enough to listen to Owing and his crew who were tricked into taking the lead by the other Caribbean leaders who were laughing behind his back.

    In the good old-time days, when battles were fought by attrition, there was strength in unity and in large numbers. In modern times, battles are won by innovation, stealth, tactical skills and creativity.
    What CSME what!!??

    The things that are critical to survival in the coming crisis are ingenuity, creativity, productivity and tough-mindedness.
    ….or better yet, get on board the BBE bus….


  3. @Atman

    That is part of our problem as people, we believe there are somethings which as you say the intellectual must lead and the others must allow themselves to be shepherded. It explains why many of us feel that making an X on election day is about participating in a democracy.


  4. Properly said, the person going by the pseudonym, Bush Tea.

    The CSME is utter rubbish, put simply.

    Any time a future PDC Government comes into existence in this country, and we find that Barbados will still be a member of the CSME then, we will promptly WITHDRAW Barbados from out of it.

    There are different ways of deepening and widening regional integration and functional cooperation among certain CARICOM countries – those that have predominant African descendant populations – than simply foolishly coming up with regional projects that are patterned off the EU, that represent higher stages in imperialism and globalization, and that will help bring greater social, financial and other problems to this country.

    This stupid nonsense called CSME that Owen Arthur and the BLP were promoting and implementing – and so obstinately against the national interests of this country and the working and business interests of the poor and marginal middle classes of Barbados – is one fundamental reason why Owen Arthur and the BLP must never AGAIN NEVER AGAIN be elected in this country!!!

    So, Down with the Damned DLP and the Blasted BLP!!!!

    PDC


  5. Well said PDC!

    Well said Bush Tea!

    Owen arthur is a colossal waste of time and a complete jackass.

    The other caribbean leaders recognising his insecurity and prideful nature pushed him to take lead on this CSME joke thing and he dragged poor Barbados and Bajans in to this mess.

    All like now the rest of the caribbean nations are still laughing at us.

    Big steupse.


  6. Thanks very much, Anonymous.

    There are also a lot of other things that have for a long time been contributing overwhelmingly and brutally to the compromising and degradating of the quality of life of the broad masses and middle classes in this country.

    Well, here are some things that a future PDC Government shall do in Barbados about them ( as expresssly or impliedly stated in the proposals below ) โ€“ and to the substantial benefit of the broad masses and middle classes of people in this country and the country itself:

    1) The Abolition of ALL TAXATION;

    2) The Abolition of Interest Rates;

    3) The Abolition of ALL Exchange Rates Parities with the Barbados Dollar;

    4) The Abolition of ALL Motor Vehicle Insurance;

    5) The Making of Imports of Goods and Services โ€œZero-pricedโ€ at all points of entry;

    6) The Making of Exports of Goods and Services – once destined for the external markets – to be paid for in local currency/โ€pricesโ€;

    7) The Ensuring that ALL Institutional Loans for Productive Purposes become Non-Repayable;

    8 The Making sure that the Hire Purchase system is seriously reformed in this country;

    9) The Disabusing with the notion of โ€œInflationโ€ but at the same time the making sure that at any time โ€“ even at such a time as like now when there is a political economic depression in Barbados โ€“ as much PRODUCTIVE money/value as possible circulates within the country with a view of helping to ever expand our productive sectors and helping to ever grow our so-called economy;

    10) The Making sure that NO foreigners will โ€“ at the time of our being at the helm of government in this country โ€“ own the rights to our Land spaces โ€“ ONLY Barbadian citizens and businesses and other entities โ€“ Foreigners will ONLY be able to lease such rights;

    11) The Making sure that there is a regime of Rent Control instituted in this country for ALL residential, commercial, and other relevant properties;

    12) The Ensuring that partnerships are the ONLY multi-member corporate business entities possible in Barbados. This dispensation will ensure that present day workers, managers and owners of present day business enterprises will become future partners in future enterprises in this country and that each of them, et al, will be remunerated in profits;

    13) The Ensuring that the shareholder culture in Barbados will be reformed to make it mandatory that NO LOCAL OR FOREIGN MONEY INVESTORS WILL EVER BECOME โ€“ when our party remains at the helm of government in this country โ€“ OWNERS OR PART OWNERS of any business enterprises in Barbados on the basis of merely injecting cash/value into commercial enterprises โ€“ THEY SHALL BE SEEN AS JUST MONEY INVESTORS who are simply entitled to share of the profits of these enterprises;

    14) The Legislating that NO completely foreign owned businesses will exist in Barbados โ€“ Foreigners and and foreign entities shall ONLY be capable of entering into joint ventures or strategic alliances with Barbadian interests in whatever areas of business in Barbados, to a maximum of 51% ownership of such enterprises;

    15) The creation and maintenance in this country of a modern efficient railway system very much on or along the existing ABC/Spring Garden/Ronald Highways;

    16) The Bringing about of more TV stations in this country โ€“ and one of which will have to cater to assisting in the cultural development of this country โ€“ the elimination of as many corrupt negative foreign influences as possible from our social landscape;

    17) The Creation of Technological, Technical, Commercial, Languages, Science, Culinary, Sporting Academies in the secondary school system, and in which each Academy will โ€“ basic subjects apart โ€“ specialize in the teaching, the instilling, and the engaging in of those theoretical and experiential knowledges and activities that are ever so important to the countryโ€™s future greater development;

    18) The Abolition of the Common Entrance Examination and in its place the establishment of A National Continuous Assessment Program;

    19) The Building of a modern acute care public hospital in the north of the country;

    20) The Making sure that Constituents will debate and pass the laws of this country โ€“ NOT like this big foolish idea called constituency councils;

    21) The Making sure that the Constitution of Barbados provides for the operation of Coalitional Government in Barbados โ€“ and of which, et al, the head of such will be an elected Executive President of Barbados and of which it will be composed of elected party, non-party-political and independent non-partisan members;

    22) The Removal of the Queen as Head of State of this country;

    23) The Removal of the first past the post electoral system and in its place a variant of the proportional representational electoral system; and

    24) The election nationally of ALL Judges of the High Court and some other senior governmental officials like the DPP โ€“ all of whom will be adjunct members of the Cabinet of Barbados.

    So, Down with the Damned DLP and the Blasted BLP!!

    VOTE PDC Next Elections.

    PDC


  7. @PDC

    The challenge for a budding party like the PDC is to get the populace to buy in to your message, if BU is any barometer you will need to examine your communications strategy.

    @All

    It light of Kamla’s recent statement at the Caricom Summit explaining that T&T is not an ATM or shouldn’t be seen as Godfather to the others, is this a case of the Federation REPEAT? Bear in mind she has recinded the OECS partnership!


  8. We have to be globally competitive, better that we do so through innovation and creativity than through lower wages as Bush Tea says.

    But we can’t be globally competitive if we can’t even be regionally competitive.

    That is where CSME comes in and Atman’s point. It provides a useful stepping stone as we try and make our economy globally competitive and it provides opportunities for our companies to be better able to compete globally, because they have grown big in a region rather than being big in a tiny country.

    Of course this whole issue is merely masquerading as being about CSME, but really its just David’s way of ensuring that at least once a week people can get to say abnoxiously racist things about Indo-Guyanese people, the kind of things we would hate for anyone to say about us and would be criminal in countries with race-hate legislation. Shameful. Luckily, other than the usual suspects, few people rise to the bait.


  9. David,

    We are doing much communication and information about so many things social political material financial, things PDC at the ground level and seriously networking with many others.

    The PDC unmistakably strongly believes that the desired social, political material and financial changes that we have been thinking about for this country and for some other countries MUST START FROM THE BOTTOM UPWARDS and be for the ultimate benefit of the growth and development of the affairs of the broad masses and middle classes of Barbados and those of the broad masses and middle classes of the particular countries concerned, and be for the further sustained growth and development of our country Barbados and the particular countries themselves.

    This long running elitist corporatist top down approach to engineering ushering in much social political change in Barbados and elsewhere has clearly miserably failed in many instances.

    It has been one of the underpinnings of this said stupid demon CSME project, and is clear proof why to some extent this CSME foolishness has not gotten very far and why re the difficulty the political directorate political elites are having in imposing the CSME and other programs on the respective broad populaces in their respective countries, there is a clear fight by many of the broad masses and middle classes in Barbados, in particular, to have greater power and authority in determining their own political destiny.

    Also, we are utilizing as many public forums as possible.

    Very importantly, we are thankful that the BU blog, the BA blog and now the BES blog exist, to help us get our positions across into the modern mainstream media.

    Yes, we have also as time goes by to further develop our communications and information strategies, and to greater evolve different ones to suit different political markets, to get more centrally into the political minds of mainstream Barbados – a major interceding objective.

    By the way, among our immediate focuses are:

    1) getting our own building;

    2) getting more candidates in place for the next elections in Barbados; and

    3) raising more finance to help with the effective running of the party.

    PDC


  10. @Conrad

    Remember you are the first to mention it.


  11. PDC,
    Your philosophy makes an interesting read, great fiction, but you really can’t be serious. You cannot expect mass public support for what will surely be a bankrupting of Barbados. Prudent financial management not dumb unworkable gibberish is what the country needs.


  12. @Bush Tea & David

    There are some forward thinking intellectuals in both the public and private sectors who make sense when they speak on the CSME issue. There are persons on both sides of the political divide who accept that CSME is critical to the region moving forward. I’m sure I heard Feundel Stewart say recently that Barbados is best positioned to lead the CSME. I’ve heard Sandra Husbands speak about the need for a larger market for our small businesses to be viable and grow. It’s time we all wake up and realize that CSME is something we need, not want. Insularity and xenophobia will get us and the region nowhere.


  13. PDC wrote “The Abolition of ALL TAXATION”

    And how do you intend to provide government services if you have NO tax money to work with?

    I know tht I’ve asked this before,but I beg you to repeat because I am a real slow learner.


  14. Here’s what I consider to be a more detached, dispassionate and informed analysis of Barbados regional involvements:
    WHAT WILL THE CSME DO FOR ME?

    BY

    GEORGE L. REID

    Failing this, the CSME will be no more than the fifth wheel of a coach; not much of hindrance to progress, nor not much of an aid. The Rt. Hon. Owen Seymour Arthur, Prime Minister of Barbados

    Belief that regional integration will be the magic bullet, or the philosopherโ€™s stone that will cure all the attendant ills of our convoluted and bifurcated ecopolitical social space of the Caribbean subregion has been the flavour of the month for some years, now. Barbadians need to come to terms with the fact that their political behaviour shows no historical evidence of a yearning towards oneness with their English-speaking neighbours. Whether in speaking in the folk vernacular, they term Guyanese citizens as โ€œmudheadsโ€, or they designate the people of Trinidad and Tobago, as โ€œTrickidadiansโ€, and all the remaining dwellers in the Eastern Caribbean as โ€œlowโ€ islanders, it is clear that for Barbadians, no place on earth could ever equal, far less surpass, this blessed โ€œRockโ€ of 166 square miles, perched beyond the rim of the Caribbean Sea.

    When scores of us, appear to concede that there may be some lasting benefit to be derived from participating in the Caribbean Single Market (and Economy), CSM, we should not be surprised if laconic observers wonder what substances our political leaders have fed us, and into what smoky rooms they have led us. It seems then, that before we can extricate ourselves from this political Lethe, we need to undertake a careful deconstruction of the mores, beliefs, and attitudes of Generation C (C for Caribbean, but also, for contemp, corruption, and Continuing Criminal enterprise!).

    oooOOOooo

    The concept of the Caribbean Single Market and Economy is arguably, one of the most ambitious attempts at integrating the sub-region since the demise of the West Indies Federation. January 2005 was the latest deadline for completing the process of removing a number of restrictions on the free movement of goods, capital, and some categories of skilled manpower within the Caribbean Community (CARICOM) by Barbados, Guyana, Jamaica, and Trinidad and Tobago.

    When the remaining members, with the exception of the Bahamas, which has made no commitments in this regard, follow suit by year end, the Caribbean Single Market and Economy (CSME) will be fully established. And though wisdom has led our leaders to delay the deadline for the establishment of the single space for transactions, that we choose to call an โ€œeconomyโ€, we still live in hope that one day it will be upon us.

    For the man on Broad Street, or perhaps better yet, around the corner on High Street, between the Royal Bank and the Public Buildings, and at a distance far enough removed not to be visually assaulted by the incongruity of the statue of a one-armed Eighteenth-century British admiral in a Square recently dedicated to national heroes, it is time for sober reflection on what the CSME will mean. Perhaps, he may wonder aloud: โ€œwhatโ€™s in the CSME for me?โ€

    My own regionalist sentiments, are distinctly mixed. My hopes for the flowering of regional unity were dashed nearly fifty years ago, when a majority of Jamaicans abandoned the idea of โ€œFederationโ€ and affirmed that their country should go it alone. Since I lay the blame for the failure of the Federation squarely on the shoulders of the politicians, I tend to look askance at any new offerings at regional unification that they serve up. Nowadays, I want to examine the teeth of all gift horses and hear them say aaahhh!

    Those of us who witnessed the failed effort to make an Eastern Caribbean purse out of the sowโ€™s ear that was the โ€œLittle Eightโ€, reluctantly came to accept that a very small island, with no natural resources, could cast itself adrift on an unfriendly sea and call that โ€œindependenceโ€. We have found it distinctly difficult to be lost in wonder, love, and praise, at the new creation called the CSME. and feel a regrettable lack of joy at the new little bundle that is being held up for view by our political midwives, because of a profound sense that it will be hell to pay to raise it. Perhaps, we should clench our teeth on this particular bullet, and accept that our failing eyesight robs us of the ability to see its benefits. However, those of us with a capacity for analysis, should not fail to respond to some of the assertions that are being made by our political leaders regarding the CSME.

    Prime Minister Owen Arthur, our distinguished leader, has been given the lead responsibility for the birthing process of the CSME, and, along the way, has become its most voluble advocate. Since his credentials as a professional economist, and his claim to have led Barbados through a decade of sustained growth are irrefutable, we can do no less that read what he has been saying, recently, about the CSME, with the care that his statements clearly deserve. The speech that he gave on April 23, 2004, to mark the Thirtieth Anniversary of the establishment of CARICOM is worthy os special attention. In his now customary magisterial style he delivered a panegyric to a no doubt appreciative, but also, captive audience, at Frank Collymore Hall, entitled The Caribbean Single Market and Economy: The way Forward.

    Prime Minister Arthurโ€™s conclusion that the CSME is not a relic of our tortured and crisis-ridden past, but is an expression and an anticipation of a future that can be better and brighter for all is unobjectionable. But when he goes on to say that it โ€œ belongs especially to the young people of the Caribbean, (and that) it can become their chief instrument to make of our region that which the first generation of independent Caribbean citizens have been unable to accomplish โ€“ a successful Caribbean societyโ€,.

    We should have become accustomed to our Prime Ministerโ€™s use of hyperbole by now, but there is a distinct and noticeable tendency to resort to flights of rhetoric rather than careful argumentation to attempt to persuade us by logical analysis that the CSME is the boon that it is offered up to be. The result is that the reaction of many of us who have made sterling contributions to bringing our Caribbean Countries to the situation of half-way viable economies in which they exist today, often in face of strong resistance by our politicians, to such dismissive statements is one of dismay. How can we fail to feel challenged by the assertion that any doubts that we may have concerning the grand design of the CSME reflects a mindset of โ€œunderachievement, a loss of confidence, cynicism and the willingness to accept the second best across a wide field of social, economic, cultural and political activityโ€. Thus, it is important for my generation who comprised the youth of the 1960s, to closely examine the role that the past and the current political leadership has played in promoting the process of regional integration over the last four decades of Caribbean history.

    The present article is a summary presentation of a more detailed and analytical assessment of the proposals to bring the CSME into force in which I am engaged. My purpose, here, is only to sketch out some of the issues that this exercise will address and to invite comments that would serve to improve its direction and inform its content. As a starting point, it seeks to ask the question what impact has the proliferation of notionally sovereign states in the English-speaking Caribbean, whose pervasive preoccupation is with the political and economic perquisites of statehood had on regional integration.

    In this context it is interesting to note that Havelock Brewster and Clive Thomas, in their seminal work entitled The Dynamics of West Indian Integration, published as early as 1967 argued for an interpretation of economic integration that was rooted in an organic process of removal of the existing localization of economic activity in the individual territories and to invest it with the strengths of a true regional synergy. At the same time, they argued for the development of empirical foundations for assessing the efficacy and inherent weaknesses of the various proposals.

    Sadly, the basis for assessing the costs and benefits of particular proposals, both regionally and on the individual national economies is still lacking. Since it cannot be denied that human individuals are motivated by a personal calculus in deciding whether or not to support of oppose proposals that will bring about wrenching economic changes in their fortunes, such empirical analysis should be the bedrock of policy formulation. In short, where the establishment of the current arrangements are concerned, we should not be embarrassed to ask: Whatโ€™s in the CSME for me! By contrast, it is not helpful to try to assuage genuine concerns by attempting to suggest that change will be minimal and can be easily accommodated in the course of human affairs.

    The current initiatives to deepen the integration process are being undertaken against the background of nearly four decades of notional state sovereignty, which implies the application of governmental effort to control the movement of labour and goods across national boundaries, maintain national currencies, enforce contracts on a national basis, and subsidise and promote particular economic activities at the national level. Thus, the CSME will involve the dismantling of a range of national protective mechanisms to which economic agents have become accustomed. For affected persons to be told that the benefits of this process is the availability of a larger market for their products, offers little comfort to the operators of enterprises who are well aware of the high-cost nature of their activities, and the difficulties that they are likely to encounter in competing with more cost efficient producers in other member countries. At another level, the liberalization of the market for skilled labour is unlikely to be seen as offering significant incentive for professionals to migrate to other member countries, since whatever economic benefits may be envisaged must be balanced against the costs on individual and family dislocation, and the exposure to higher levels of crime and deviance that are perceived to exist in Guyana, Jamaica, and Trinidad and Tobago. Barbadians have become accustomed to a level of health, educational, and other social services, that does not exist in the other members of CARICOM. Even the public bureaucracy against whose inefficiencies we are wont to inveigh is acknowledged to be far better than its counterparts in the sub-region.

    By far the greatest element of apprehension derives from the perception that Barbados will be seen as a highly attractive destination to low-skilled low-wage job seekers who may dislocate existing employees. This is perceived to be a potential problem in the construction sector, where there have been many complaints about the number of Guyanese workers whose employment threatens local artisans. Such persons are unlikely to be persuaded by Prime Minister Arthurโ€™s statement that โ€œa Guyanese carpenter should be made to feel that he can build the cupboards at the residence of the Prime Minister of Barbados without it being regarded as an odious and criminal act.โ€ Indeed, he is more likely to be supportive of a system for the management of the flow of migrant labour, like that proposed by the General Secretary of the Barbados Workers Union.

    Prime Minister Arthur seems to be unduly optimistic in his assessment of the contribution that the CSME will make to regional labour market and its national components. This seems to be a reasonable conclusion from a reading of his address to the 15th Triennial Delegates Congress of the Caribbean Labour Congress held in Suriname in October 2004. In that speech he stated.that โ€œthe early harvest that the CSME is capable of bringing is likely to take the form of the employment benefits that will ensue to the ordinary man and woman in the Caribbean as a result of the removal of restrictions on the movement of our people, and the new businesses that they will create as self-employed entrepreneurs because of the right they enjoy for the first time to establish their own enterprises, on terms available and open to all, wherever they choose to, in our region.โ€ Those of us who have had the opportunity to live and work in different member countries of the CSME are more sanguine in this regard.

    While Prime Minister recognizes the fragmented and differentiated nature of the individual labour markets in the countries of the sub-region, he seems to gloss over the problems that are likely to be encountered by employers who attempt to establish and operate CSME-wide enterprises. Indeed, this is likely to be a distinct disadvantage to Barbadian employers who are accustomed to operate within a structured framework of voluntaristic labour-management negotiations and a relatively uncompetitive union environment.

    There seems to be a notion in Prime Minister Arthurโ€™s mind that the CSME will generate opportunities for โ€œfrontierโ€ workers who, as employees of enterprises that operate in a number of member countries will spend equal amounts of time at different locations. He suggests that the liberalization and integration of social security benefits and contingent rights will improve the working situation of such employees and enhance their mobility. Here, his proposal seems to have been influenced more by his interpretation of arrangements that exist in the European Union, and less on a historical understanding of the arrangements that were put in place, particularly in the banking sector where many Barbadians benefitted from opportunities to improve their managerial experience through intra-bank transfers. Interestingly, these opportunities were largely removed by the indigenization of the foreign commercial banks and the stringent application of work permit regulations. Harmonisation of social security benefits seems to be a less attractive alternative to the internal arrangements previously practiced by various banks. The integration of individual employerโ€™s health and retirement benefits into the national social security schemes has been an additional source of erosion of these incentives.

    It is well recognized that through the actions of economic actors within nations communities, regions, and countries become integrated with global markets, directly or indirectly Linkages among economic actors, together with the market structures and policies that influence these linkages, transmit the influences of trade reforms from directly affected actors to others inside and outside of the individual national economy. Through these linkages, ever-widening circles of individuals, households, and firms become affected, directly or indirectly, by the trade reforms that processes like the CSME bring into play.

    The consequences for production, incomes and migration depend upon the extent to which influences of trade integration are transmitted to different household populations, as well as the ability of households to adjust to changing market conditions, both positive and negative, by altering their income activities or through migration. However, unless there is an appropriate empirical framework for the analysis of possible outcomes, policies will be formulated in a vacuum, and in the absence of effective financing of transitional arrangements, considerable dislocation can ensue, and support for the liberalization process will be vitiated. Prime Minister Arthurโ€™s call for the establishment of the Regional Development Fund (RDF) is clear evidence that he recognizes this problem

    It is one thing to recognise a problem. It is quite another to put oneโ€™s shoulder to the wheel, or oneโ€™s money where oneโ€™s mouth is. Time will tell whether the Leaders of the OECS are simply demonstrating a willingness to be persuaded that the RDF will be funded, substantially, by contributors who, in turn, will hold no expectation of ever drawing from it.

    GLR
    3307

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    Think Solutions

    First, the invidious vitriol of PDC commentary is pathetic.

    Summon up any vision you can conjure of Barbados into the next decade or two and it cannot contain core elements of the beautiful diversity of Guyanese, Ja’cans, Lucians, Vincies et al. To do so would be to deny our own family and history, our great-grand fathers and all forebears can be traced to one of these small islands where we come from – all trying to get by. There’s no legitimacy to pick on them, we let new generation British, American, Canadians buy with ease our best land, business, anything with a price and without considering that this is criminal activity, just white collar, ‘Enron style’ and its forgiven because its putting bread on the table and you do what you have to – to feed your family!
    Let us step up to the challenge and be the responsible grown-ups in our Caribbean family, offer a helping hand where we feel the pain. We are Bajans, if we see our neighbour child doing something wrong, we get involved admonish the child, call the parents – set them right. CSME is our family, let’s set them right, don’t mean you run way or not fix it.
    Let’s get the immigration right, everyone invited, but don’t walk in with your arms swinging like you own the place. The vast majority working so hard that it scares us, we’ve forgotten that hunger. We are known for our pride – but it comes before a fall… Our position as adults in the CSME should remind us to stay grounded and work together for the whole family’s benefit.
    If the DLP’s new legislation produces something adult then run with it, and where its weak, let’s fix it. In any event they need to get on with it, ‘because that child is crossing the street by herself’.


  16. @ Atman

    Sir, take the bushman’s foolish advice…… go back and resume your argument with GP about St John’s Wart……leave out this CSME position do!! …you were on better ground there…. LOL

    Atman, you have been on BU long enough to know that we do not entertain arguments which suggest that because PM Stuart or Sandra Husbands say something that means it is so….

    Let us know specifically how CSME will be helpful. What will it achieve – assuming we manage to get it established ?

    When asked this question- Arthur and his CSME secretariat could only talk about “strength in numbers” – “standing together against competition” – “ability to face the world as a block” and other such outdated cliches.

    Nonsense!!

    Even if the 15 countries joined together to become one, we will still be smaller than many failed countries; We will still be insignificant – in fact, instead of having 15 votes at the international level as we have now, we would have ONLY ONE!

    If we take so ling to make simple decisions now in little Barbados, how long would it take when decisions need to be ratified at the CSME level?

    Stupsssseeee

    @ Conrad
    Market penetration does not depend on the formation of any marketing/economic grouping, it depends on the ability to produce QUALITY goods at COMPETITIVE prices. Do that and your goods will sell in hell and heaven.

    To produce quality goods and services at competitive prices requires creativity, originality, productivity and flexibility.

    Does this not suggest that the ideal country of the future will be one that is educated, well led, creative, decisive and more specifically – is lean and mean???

    LOL …… far from joining CSME maybe we should consider dropping off st Lucy and st Andrew if we can’t get those roads fixed rotfl


  17. I am a strong believer in caribbean integration in all its sphere , because it is the right thing to do and it make sense economically if we are to survive in the coming future. Our former leaders through their selfish myopic nationalism have failed us once with the West indian federation, therefore let us not repeat their mistake. I find it somewhat ironic that during colonial time we were free to move regionally but as soon as we became ‘independent” from our masters we then resort to all manner of insularity in the name of sovereignity (example work permits and the alien land holding acts in some states.)

    Economic trading bloc that morphed into a more integrated economic union will always posed challenges to all especially when you have to deal with different degree of development between the states, size, population etc. People on a whole donot like change and especially if they are going to impacted negatively by the change and as such some people( especially opposing political tribalist) will resort to fearmongering and alarmist outcry.

    Now, the question is, since the adoption of some part of the CSME by CARICOM since the past 6 years, who so far benefit the most and who is worse off? Based my information so far, in terms of trade in goods and merchandise , Barbados and Trinidad is the biggest beneficiary so far. Trinidad alone enjoy a trade surplus of $1.6 billion US$ with Jamaica, as a matter of fact, just about every caribbean country has a trade surplus with jamaica. It is fair to say then the jamaicans are the biggest losers in this category. However, on the service side the data are lacking. We donot know so far which country has gain in service category in terms of skills workers, professionals, consultants, migrant workers etc. Until we have the data to do some rigorous analysis on the subject of migation in Caricom , anything that is said on this matter that is couched in coded language like “quality of life” is only appealing to our prejudices.

    The revised treaty of chagaramas is not their for us to be cherrypicked what we like and discard what we dont like. Trade is a two way street and should not be a zero-sum game. That is why I was disappointed when the negotiators allow the OECS to keep in place their alien land holding act, at least some form of reciprocity should have been applied. Example, an Antiguan will get national treatment in purchasing land in Barbados but, a Bajan will be prevented from owning land in Antigua through their archaic land holding statute.


  18. BT I with you!!!!!!!!!

    Ha ahhahahahahah

    I want to know if anyone really see how the new PM of Trinidad moving doh!

    We ain’t gonna get it!

    Even if someone walk up to us with the answers in big bold letters Stupse!!!!!!!


  19. Dear Bush Tea,

    I used to share your view on CSME. I am not disagreeing with you that we need to be lean and mean. It is an important point that too many Bajans shirk away from. I forget whether you live in Barbados permanently, but if you do you will know that our firms are very far from being lean and mean and have no idea what global competitiveness, quality, and the rest is because they have had so little exposure. So, how do we get them some exposure that makes them stronger rather than wipes them out before they have time to adapt?

    Compare Neal and Massey and Grace Kennedy on one side and BST on the other. BST is hopelessly uncompetitive compared to those two because it has not been exposed to the level of competition that they have by virtue of being exposed to the larger Trinidadian, Jamaican and regional market place.

    If you believe we can go from being hopelessly uncompetitive to globally competitive in one go – and there is ultimately no alternative but to end up globally competitive – without some stepping stone, then we do not need CSME. Global competitiveness is the end goal. My fear is if we try to get there now it would kill us off, which is why we dont try and that is just killing us off slowly. CSME provides the exposure and competitive pressure to get us better prepared for global competition. It gets us pointing in the right direction of focusing on international competitiveness, innovation etc and not the wrong direction of looking for preferential treatment, philanthropy, hand outs just to stay put.

    By the way, going to CSME does not mean you have one vote. Being in the bush for so long you seem to be clutching at straws…..forgive me. The European Union is far more of a political union than CSME proposes and the EU is still made up of sovereign national countries with individual votes/presence at the UN, WTO, IMF, G20, G8….. Indeed, the big EU countries end up with two votes, one for the country plus the EU itself is represented at WTO, G20, G8 and other international bodies, so it would strengthen our representation not dilute it, though I do not think that in itself would be a reason for CSME.


  20. @Bush Tea

    You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine. You can’t run me off this topic because I hold a firm view on it, and I intend to stick in your face. I agree and support those who make sense to me, and I make that determination for myself. People like you will find all sorts of frivolous reasons to oppose CSME, but there is much more to gain than lose from CSME. The problem is that we have too many pessimists, cynics, and national chauvinists in the region.

    @Zion1971

    I’m with you all the way…hope our leaders remain firmly committed to the cause and make steady progress with CSME.


  21. That should read: I agree with and support those who make sense to me


  22. Those who have not done so as yet should visit the link below and pay special attention to the last section of the page entitle “The CSME and External Trade Arrangements”.

    http://www.jis.gov.jm/special_sections/caricomnew/CSME1.html


  23. @Conrad

    See there is no need to be alarmist? What xenophobic what? Just because we want to make sure Barbados does not become the dumping ground in the Caribbean? Commonsense requires that all the parties negotiating any agreement who sit down around a table must be mindful of losing more than they stand to gain.

    The idealistic positions of having a regional integration is a desirable position. We should not however ignore certain realities. All of the Caribbean islands with T&T as the exception is saddled with close to 100% debt to GDP, some are 100%+ i.e. there is little or no wriggle room for capacity building in their respective economies. Currently most if not all Caribbean countries reschedule debt which is an excuse for adding more debt. The OECS sub group is the model which has been working and it has not stopped these islands from being riddled with debt. As BT opined adding a few more islands to the ling will not change anything. It will not create economies of any great scale which would impact price and make us competitive vis a vis many commodities which currently flood our small markets from China, Japan, Korea, USA and elsewhere who benefit from a low cost production base and in some cases subsidization from government. Let us consider also that WTO agreement and the EPA EU which is yet to kick in means that we cannot stop in any significant way goods from flooding our markets from extra regional.

    The EU model has demonstrated that the mechanisms/Governance – policy arrangements have to be formalized to ensure labour (movement of people), trade and the financial framework (settlement) are in place to given a common market a chance. Some of us believe by allowing freedom of movement it will be the panacea of all that ail us. What about those deportees who now are sent packing in numbers from the USA and elsewhere to our shores? What about the sophistication in the type of criminal who operate across the Caribbean when some of our police stations donโ€™t have a working computer or fax machine? We have to get real, one* incident is all it takes to wash our #1 foreign exchange spinner down the drain.

    Lastly the one country that can bring financial might to the partnership has sent a clear message to the others, we are not the ATM of the Caribbean. CSME is a project which needs all, especially key stakeholders to be committed, at the moment enjoy the lip service. In the meantime Barbados should remain guarded about how we commit to moving forward because the record is there for all to examine, Barbados has signed on to most of the initiatives rolled out while others sit on the fence and take pot-shots.


  24. @David

    This is off topic but I notice sometime that I find a strange, while I’m around here making my contributions I find that a certain handle (real name) is strangely missin in action. Could it be that the individual who uses that handle is really missing in action (I think not), or is he present but disguised? You don’t have to answer that question, but I just wanted to point out the cowardice in some people. lol


  25. @David

    That should read: I’ve notice something that I find strange


  26. @Atman

    Commenters are free to go and come as they please.


  27. @David

    I totally agree with you that whatever infrastructures and measures that need to put in place to adequately facilitate CSME should be done and done with urgency, but most of the folks who are dead set against CSME will not change their views about it because they just don’t want that level of integration. So we’ll dealing with two distinct matters; acceptance of CSME with proper preparation, and non-acceptance of CSME.


  28. @Atman

    You love a noise boy. Here you go again with unsubstantiated positions. Glad you not a lawyer man…lol. You only lookin to get some licks from GP.


  29. Commenters are free to go and come as they please.
    =======================================================
    I know they are sirโ€ฆnever said they werenโ€™t. Theyโ€™re also free to use as many different handles as they wish. Forgive me for thinking I could pass a little humour with you regarding my boyโ€ฆI should have known better anyway.
    (I have to get into the habit of proof reading before posting here)


  30. @David

    I’m not talking about GP man…I talking about my other boy from Boston. Ha ha ha….


  31. Please don’t use the Eu as some sort of model for what CSME could be a mini-mirror.

    What started off as the European Coal and Steel Union to cement the detente between Germany and France has transformed into a bureaucratic nightmare that none of the participating electorates could have envisioned possible, even less voted for!

    Deied promised referda they have been dragooned into boarding the most bloated unelected gravy train ever concocted.

    Every Euro MEP costs more than the British PM, when you include their out of control expenses.
    Their own audit office have not signed off the accounts for donkey’s years.

    Another layer of useless talking heads, which given today’s technology could be handled by the Council of Ministers in an afternoon’s teleconference.

    Europeans have seen through the scam, and are about to rebel.

    The Germans are furious about the Greek bailout and want their Mark back.

    The remainder want their referenda to voice their rejection of the Lisbon Treaty but are being refused a say in the changes to their sovereign constitutions.

    It will all end in tears, sooner than a lot may think.

    When the US and Canadian citizens become aware of the true ramifications and underlying agenda of the NAU they too will revolt.

    Take heed Bajans, ever closer ties to sister islands that only fat cats and politicians can afford to visit is a price we cannot afford, and yet another futile scheme of the dimwitted will collapse in expensive failure.

    But what do I know?


  32. @ Conrad
    What changed your mind about CSME? Maybe, just like those clueless leaders who support it, you too are just clutching at straws like a drowning man….

    None of our leaders have any clue of what needs to be done to stabilize their various economies, so they jumped on this CSME scam to give themselves something to talk about while they stumble their way through their terms of office.

    Our local companies are non competitive because we have been tricked by ‘sugar subsidies’, soft loans, and ‘grants’ from the various International agencies which have lulled us into a state of stupor. (poor productivity, high taste, lazy mentality, and inept managers). The solution is to shake ourselves awake and bring our collective talents to the fore…..to create the very best Barbados that we are capable of being.

    Going to CSME just means that instead of being just taken over by the Chinese we will be taken over by Trinidad first – who will then be taken over by the Chinese.

    By the way – I did not say that CSME means one vote instead of 15. What I ACTUALLY said was (for argument’s sake) “even if he 15 countries joined together to become one…… ”

    @ Atman
    *******************************************************************************************
    People like you will find all sorts of frivolous reasons to oppose CSME, but there is much more to gain than lose from CSME. The problem is that we have too many pessimists, cynics, and national chauvinists in the region
    *************************************************************************************
    Bush Tea does not get involved in that kind of emotional argument.

    Not only did the bushman say exactly what was wrong with the concept of CSME, but I also was at pains to explain what the correct developmental path for Barbados needs to be.
    ……In response you come with these silly, girlish generalizations again.

    What ‘more to gain than lose’ what??!!

    Specify WHAT exactly there is to be gained by Barbados from CSME,
    Explain how it help us to address the challenges we face.
    What problems will be solved? ….and who will benefit?

    …actually, the problem is that we have too many idiots who have absolutely no idea what they are speaking about, but who have been allowed to ram their idiotic positions down Bajan’s throats with feel-good cliches and senseless generalizations…. Thanks to BU, those days are long gone.


  33. @Bushtea
    Hereyoucome again with your bushism using terms like”Silly girlish” hmmm!


  34. What in the opinion of readers is the single most pressing socio-economic issue in Barbados? What effect would the development of the CSME have on efforts to address this problem?

    My vote goes to finding good,sustainable employment for all (or nearly all) Bajans. Could it be argued that the CSME increases the possibility of employment both locally and regionally?


  35. @Bush Tea

    If you have all the answers then how you’re not running the country wise guy? Since you believe that you are an authority on what the development path of Barbados should be, you should be instrumental in making it happen rather than wasting time peddling bush. There’s plenty of information around about what benefits CSME hold for the region, do your own research. I’m not going to sit here and type long-winded arguments just to convince you or impress anybody. Since you happen to be one who is dead set against CSME, see if you can prevent it from happening. The wheels are already in motion.


  36. @Bush Tea

    May I ask politely what is your area of expertise? Do you have a PhD in economics or some related area? Just curious.


  37. @ Atman

    ….no wonder Georgie Porgie found it necessary to describe you in the unique terms that he used in the St Johns Wart thread…..

    You come here talking foolishness and can’t provide a single point to support anything that you are supporting. If “thereโ€™s plenty of information around about what benefits CSME hold for the region, ….” then how come you can’t provide us with any AT ALL in support of what you are saying?

    …how do you know what Bush Tea is doing? or where? For all you know (which apparently is not much) BT may well be ‘running the country…..’

    For your information however, the bushman knows these things because he is a, (not THE) Micro Mock Engineer- (one of BBE’s boys). There is no way that BT could ‘run things’ bout here now – it would be pure chaos……trained to run things in a completely different system my friend…..

    @ MME
    ….talking ’bout our MME though, have you noticed that BP has finally come around to what the Bushman was suggesting from the very beginning? BOP on BOP!!!
    ….man you so stingy with the required praise…. LOL


  38. From the caricom.org website:

    “The CARICOM Single Market and Economy is intended to benefit the people of the Region by providing more and better opportunities to produce and sell our goods and services and to attract investment. It will create one large market among the participating member states.

    The main objectives of the CSME are: full use of labour (full employment) and full exploitation of the other factors of production (natural resources and capital); competitive production leading to greater variety and quantity of products and services to trade with other countries. It is expected that these objectives will in turn provide improved standards of living and work and sustained economic development. “


  39. @Bush Tea

    I already posted a link here earlier today that oulines some of the benefits for the region as a whole, which of couse includes Barbados. The experts have already done their homework on what the benefits would be, and have published information…there’s no need for me to retype it. Since your expertise is not in the area of economics or such, I fail to see what makes you think you have superior knowledge on what is best for Barbados. You’re just another one of the big self-inflated egos who frequaint the blogs. You can have the final word. Over and out.


  40. Jamaica and Trinidad are small economies in the world as a whole but the largest Jamaican and Trinidadian companies are more competitive than Barbadian companies because their markets are 4-5 times ours in size. Combining our markets with them will improve the competitiveness of our companies and put them in better stead when trying to compete in the world as a whole.

    CSME does not need to have any fiscal implication, other than, if it makes our economies grow faster as a result of greater competitiveness there will be less fiscal pressure from Government looking to kick start growth.

  41. Micro Mock Engineer Avatar
    Micro Mock Engineer

    @BT,

    Why run the risk of damaging the well and/or BOP when this new containment cap can deliver all of the escaping oil to vessels at the surface and the relief wells are so close to completion?

    I have to confess I am surprised at this test BP is doing. Maybe they think the risks are now lower given how close the relief wells are to completion… I would not have attempted shutting off flow completely at this stage, but if BP and BT are in agreement, who am I to object LOL


  42. @Conrad

    The point would have been made that if we get full commitment from Jamaica and Trinidad perhaps there is hope but these two lead economies failed us in the Federation, see the George Reid piece submitted above and note we have again been hearing statements from Kamla which does not lend confidence. Jamaica has always looked North anyway. The fact that these two countries have demonstrated a lack of confidence in the CCJ should provide insight about their commitment to Caricom and CSME. It is easy to throw around generalities but what is missing is meat to the positions and not generalities.


  43. Dear David,

    Now that we have dealt with the size issue, lets not mix CSME up with too many other related but separate issues.

    Trinidad does not want to put up money and the new PM is less interested than the old in some kind of union with OECS, but CSME does not require Trinidad to fund it or for political union.

    Trinidadian and Jamaican companies, like aggressive Barbadian companies want to be able to diversify abroad and earn foreign exchange but to be protected at home. They cant have everything and CSME is a useful compromise as we gear up to open up to global competition.


  44. @Conrad

    Now that we have dealt with the size issue, lets not mix CSME with too many other related but separate issues.

    Please explain your above.

    Also please note the following quote which was made way back in 2006

    Acknowledging that the pace of implementation is not as quick as the public would like, arguably, chiefly concerns the mass Caribbean public, Mr. Carryl in a manner not contrived, said:

    โ€œThis thing (integration) is not for free. It costs money to do; all of it. It costs money to set up new institutions. One of the reasons why some of these implementation tasks have not been done is because Governments are checking to see if their fiscal capacity can afford them. The same people who are complaining about the [lack of] speed at which it is happening have to be prepared to pay their taxes so that the Governments can contribute to the requirement of putting the measures and institutions in place. The idea that integration is not moving quickly has to be disabused of peopleโ€™s minds because it is not for free; it costs money,โ€ he said.


  45. J,

    You asked the following: “And how do you intend to provide government services if you have NO tax money to work with?”,

    And remarked: “I know tht Iโ€™ve asked this before,but I beg you to repeat because I am a real slow learner”.

    The above excerpts copied from your July 12, 2010, 10.08 am blog

    Now, here is our reply by way of the part reproduction of a post that was done some time ago on this BU blog.

    We hope that by posting such we would be able to elicit an appropriate response from you leading to an exchange of ideas between us under this thread.

    ——————————————————————————————————————–

    So, here we go.

    There are at least eight strategies ( herein very briefly outlined ) that a PDC Government will put in place to support a NO TAXATION regime and for which ALL other countries across the world will do well to properly understand and accept and to thereafter put in place as perhaps suitable for themselves:

    1) A massive reduction in the size and operations of the state โ€“ which will mean fewer inefficiencies and duplications and wastages and fewer state expenditures and borrowings โ€“ and which will also mean that most of those operations and people that were once part of the state apparatus will have to be conditioned or reconditioned to become part of the private enterprise system of Barbados and thus to become capable or more capable of producing goods, services and income in this sector of the country;

    2) The necessary greater use of its partners (formerly workers) and the land, resources, technological and other capacities it would otherwise have under its jurisdiction, as a means of helping it to earn so much more of its own income than presently obtains, within a market framework;

    3) The offering of shares to the public in many commercially viable attractive state managed business ventures or commercially viable state/private sector business ventures โ€“ this equity financing approach will most likely be a better approach than seeking loan financing as a significant part of start up capital for these ventures;

    4) The state having the capacity like Barbadian citizens and Barbadian entitites in this country to borrow money for productive purposes from the core financial system and then later not having to repay such monies. There shall be maximum limits placed on the amount of unused/underused money/value the state will borrow from core financial institutions to finance its activities in any one fiscal year โ€“ this being 3 and one half of tenths of GDP at certain rates of annualized growth in real GDP itself โ€“ which itself will be in operation between 3 to 7.9 % of real GDP growth โ€“ and in most other cases being three tenths of GDP where annualized GDP growth rates exceed 8 % of real GDP, and in very rare circumstances being just above 3 and 1/2 of tenths of GDP but no more than 3 and 3/4 of tenths of GDP, where GDP might fall beneath 3 % of real GDP growth itself.

    5) The frequent publication of accurate and reliable financial statements and accounts on the every day business of government, whether in the social, commercial, security or other facets of government. Such will assist in bringing about greater public confidence in governmentโ€™s managing of the affairs of the state and will greatly assist in the public deciding whether to continue supporting or investing in government programs, generally;

    6) The increased usage of sheer accounting and financial values as a means of preempting the use of actual money in cases where many state/private trading and commercial transactions are set off one against another;

    7) The implementation of a fairly rigid policy that the state will NOT do business or borrow for unproductive purposes any where beyond its means and capacities to properly engage in such business conduct or to repay such monies quite successfully;

    8) The state by way of the fact of its strategic presence, say, like in the Barbados Port Authority Inc, control of the industrial estates in the country, etc. in relationship to many other productive sectors of the countries will be properly repositioned to benefit financially and otherwise from the substantial growth that will take place in the countryโ€™s GDP with the removal of TAXATION and other financial and administrative scourges.

    ——————————————————————————————————————–

    PDC


  46. I like the ideas behind the establishment of the CSME. However, it seems that few constituent countries have their hearts in it. Countries want to get the benefits (e.g, access to other countries’ markets) but unwilling to give in to other things like free movement of people even if restricted to specified categories. It would appear that the DLP administration of Barbados is lukewarm to the project if for no other reason than it was closely associated with Owen Arthur. Will Trinidad now replace the Privy Council with the CCJ?

    The earning of foreign exchange ($US or Euro) is the main objective of every CARICOM country. Nobody wants $TT, or $BDS (not even Bajans). Barbados survives on money earned from tourists from North America, Canada and the UK and from off shore businesses with the same countries. Is the region going to be better off because Neal and Massey and Grace Kennedy (as examples) can compete for customers regionally for say the purchase of Japanese cars, US corn flakes or Chinese made clothes?

    If we were “rational” in our behaviour, we would abandon our independent status and become part of the USA. Given the “brain drain”, the region’s citizen particularly the brightest or most driven are already doing this for themselves.

  47. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    Note that T&T and Jamaica have not signed on to the appellate jurisdiction of the CCJ. They have acceded, however, to the original jurisdiction. Does this demonstrate a lack of confidence in the CSME? I doubt it.


  48. Please note above diatribe from PDC is obvious recipe for disaster, that would cause a downward spiral of unprecidented proportions. Guys I say again you can’t be serious. Loss of confidence in Government, Massive unemployment, social unrest, crime crime and more crime would be the result.


  49. Could it be that T&T and J’ca have confidence in the “Single Market” but not the “Single Economy”? In any event is the CSME really important to the economic survival of the region given the need to earn foreign exchange which does not include $TT of $Jca or $BDS? How does CSME affect the tourist and off shore business sectors or the sugar industry which are Barbados’ main foreign exchange earning sectors? Someone (I think it was Commissiong) described the CSME as an arrangement to facilitate the survival of a few regional conglomerates and their shareholders at the expense of the majority of small businesses and citizens.

    I am supportive of the developments ancillary to the CSME such as CCJ, CROSQ, harmonisation of laws and the free movement of people etc. However, I really do not think it will make much difference to the economic survival of the region but given the support of the intellectuals and Phds, I accept that I am most likely wrong. By the way, why is the Bahamas not part of the CSME? I would like someone to explain how CSME can cause the Caribbean to be better off economically given that much depends on the ability to earn either $US or Euros. If the response is that the CSME is not designed to address that concern then what is it for?


  50. @David:
    Would you be so kind to tell anyone who may ask or wonder, that I am busy working on a global project (converging 45 global legacy TDM pbx’s to SIP trunking) and cannot contribute as I normaly would, however I am reading, and I am happy to see that you, Bush Tea and others have things in the right perspective. LOL!

    @Bush Tea,
    George Reid says …..
    “Since it cannot be denied that human individuals are motivated by a personal calculus in deciding whether or not to support of oppose proposals …..”

    If you were a Barbadian born of a guyanese mother, and married to an Indo Guyanese, might not your loyalties be to CSME? LOL!

    However I join you in telling those that are for it ……
    “that empirical analysis should be the bedrock of policy formulation, and our opinions?”

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