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Submitted by BU’s ABC Source

overpassesFirst let me clarify a simple point.  The structures now being called flyovers are more correctly termed overpass bridges.

The analysis carried out by 3S and presented to Government (both administrations) used the Norman Niles roundabout as the test junction.  The analysis showed that the “flyover” solution would have alleviated the congestion along the highway.  It did however show that even with the “flyovers” gridlock would still exist in the east-west, that is, into Bridgetown.  The analysis had some errors that should be pointed out.  These are (1) the analysis did not take into consideration that the traffic crossing any one roundabout in the north-south direction traversed several roundabouts while almost all the traffic in the east-west direction crossed only one roundabout.  This tended to give a much higher count and therefore weight to the north-south traffic.  (2) the economic analysis that showed the flyover solution to be cost effective assumed a similar economic value to traffic in all directions.  We all know that delays to traffic into Bridgetown on mornings have a significantly greater economic impact than traffic in any other direction.  (3) at the time the analysis was done the stated cost of the flyovers was considerably less than August 2007 when a revised cost was given.  This could have had a considerable impact on the cost-benefit analysis.

The type of construction for the flyovers is also to be questioned.  The flyovers were to have been constructed of structural steel (Structural Steel Solutions Ltd.).  In view of our poor track record on maintenance in Barbados several Engineers felt that this was not the preferred solution.  A pre-stressed concrete solution would have been preferable since maintenance would be considerably less and the cost may have been lower given the rapid increases in the cost of steel.  In addition, there has been a similar structure constructed in the recent past in Barbados.  I refer to the Lancaster bridge which was designed in Barbados by Barbadian Engineers, erected by a Barbadian contractor and the pre-stressed beams were made in Trinidad, our Caricom neighbour.  In fact, construction of the Lancaster bridge was a far more difficult undertaking than any flyover on the highway would have been since the central pier for the Lancaster bridge was in the bottom of a 60 feet deep gully while all the piers for the flyovers would have been at road level.

Rethinking the flyovers was therefore prudent.  Whether or not they are revisited in the future the design (and designers) should be seriously reconsidered and our considerable local expertise employed.


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  1. I love good comedy.
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    You must find these ABC highway discussions a laugh a minute.


  2. Bush Tea

    “….still waiting for the obvious alternative option….”

    Knock down de BET building….

    AAAAAAAAAAAghhhhhhhhhhhhh


  3. BT knows as well as everyone else on the island that the obvious and safest and most innovative alternative was the flyover.


  4. The flyovers were to have been constructed of structural steel (Structural Steel Solutions Ltd.). In view of our poor track record on maintenance in Barbados several Engineers felt that this was not the preferred solution.
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    ‘several engineers’ BU ?
    Which ones?

    The structural steel came with a 10 year maintenance guarantee a good deal by anyone’s standards.


  5. @BT… Thank you for your kind words above.

    I believe that those who can, must.

    This is one of the reasons I so enjoy working with ROK. We disagree on just about everything, but somehow we end up on similar wavelengths. And he’s a true patriot (and a hell of a hard worker)….


  6. In a previous blog on the ABC Project our source suggested the Stantec engineer assigned from the NY Office possibly NEVER visited Barbados. An interesting comment which has gone unchallenged. His name was Bryce Walker.


  7. So what?


  8. @ David
    In the interests of distraction you are verging on the totally ridiculous.
    There are millions of people in the world ( in fact at least 99.999%) who have ‘possibly’ never visited Barbados.
    How far down the bulls**t scale do you intend to go?

    But for those who have lost the plot and want it clarified…………

    The former Administration saw the problem of the traffic congestion ,got the correct solution and put it into action.

    From day on the plan was mocked ridiculed slandered and deliberately delayed for political reasons only at the expense of the road traveling public.

    Internationally experienced traffic engineers came and carried out a thorough traffic study in a completely professional and totally transparent manner.

    The traffic study was disregarded and its existence is denied ( transparency?)by MPT who carried on their agenda to hamper and sabotage the project.

    No doubt it will surface again at some time in the future when it becomes politically expedient.

    Despite this the work was carried out in the face of this opposition to the highest standards using local subcontractors,
    under the supervision of engineers experienced in bridge and road building to international standards.

    Throughout the project BAPE’s only contribution to this has been an agenda of attrition for reasons that can only be described as sour grapes.

    In addition the MPW department who have undermined and delayed and actively worked against the project completion to the best (!) of their ability.In order one can only surmise to embarrass the previous administration.Their actions had a significant impact on the costs of the project again at the expense of the public purse.

    The culmination of this debacle was the illegal dismissal of the contractors 3S for no other reason than political grandstanding in the last few weeks of phase one of the project.

    The results are as can be seen.
    There traffic situation is unaltered the roundabouts the primary cause of the bottle necks on the ABC highway are still the problem.
    The addition of extra lanes does NOT solve the problem in any way and only adds to the confusion.

    The results can be seen by all and no amount of hackneyed propaganda can detract from the fact that the present authorities have messed up big time.

    They had the solution
    They had the expertise
    They had the wherewithall
    They blew it.


  9. @ru4real

    Why do you always dodge the serious questions? Comment on the fact some feel this project could have been designed and built by local engineers. Do you believe this to be so?


  10. @ David

    Not, if the local engineers’ solution is the contraption at BET.

    What is the issue here, the flyovers/overpasses being inadequate or the fact that they were designed by foreign consultants?


  11. “In a previous blog on the ABC Project our source suggested the Stantec engineer assigned from the NY Office possibly NEVER visited Barbados. An interesting comment which has gone unchallenged. His name was Bryce Walker.”
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    David I asked if there is no cooperation/connection between Stantec’s New York office and the one here in Barbados.


  12. Who feels ?
    You, your none existent engineers or your mysterious source?

    The fact remains that the concept was envisioned not by ‘local ‘ engineers who can only critique ( but fail to offer any viable alternative)

    If they could have done it why didnt they?

    Instead they sat on their collective asses and waited until someone dropped the solution in their laps and then whinged because they hadn’t the foresight and imagination to think outside the box.

    They also lack the expertise and experience to carry out such a project.

    See Mr Pandors company failed bridge in St Kitts.


  13. From the Nation Online – July 30, 2009:

    Government minister Christopher Sinckler said the Auditor General’s “special report” showed the previous Barbados Labour Party (BLP) Government breaching tendering and other practices under the highway project.

    In fact, the report “reads like a soap opera of skulduggery”, Sinckler charged. It showed “the worst and poorest displays of judgement and public administration” by the BLP, he told parliamentarians.

    The House was debating a resolution to approve the borrowing of $165 million by Government from the BNB to finance the ABC Highway project.

    According to Sinckler, the report indicated that the tendering process had been compromised.

    No history

    He also charged that 3S Structural Steel Solutions LLC (3S) was put in charge of the project even though it had no track record of highway expansion and the building of flyovers.


  14. @David
    Time to stop arguing with ru4real on this subject.
    There are a set of people in Barbados who are of the belief that they are God’s gift to this world and that none of their wishes should be questioned by plebs like us.

    They walk into a minister’s office and offers a ‘great’ deal where they will provide these flyovers -and also arrange the BOLT finance…. The deal required that the Government sign on the dotted line for hundreds of millions of dollars – no questions, no plans, no tenders no answers (to this day…)

    A person would have to be specially arrogant and truly think them self to be vastly superior to the rest of us – to be continuing to defend that position….

    ru4real has become sickening now in his ongoing self-righteous and sanctimonious harping on his precious 3s.

    If the plan was so great – wanna should have FOLLOWED the rules of transparency. We fed up with all wanna secret thieving deals…. come with another subject ru4real.


  15. Bush Tea

    You have already shown yourself up as someone who in all probability doesnt not even live here.
    Your remarks re the highway show that you have obviously never even been down it .
    So why dont you go back to whichever bush you live under and do your homework without posting more and fictitious comments.
    Or at least tell those feeding you these fairy tales to get their facts right.


  16. @Brutus

    Cud dear!
    Same old spin re 3S
    Why dont your tell your master ( Hi Henry) to change the record?
    They know they have made a mega b***s up and so now they must blame someone.
    The public aint that stupid – remember they have to drive down the ABC everyday day.
    School starts today more mayhem to come.


  17. ru4real,

    I can’t wait for the Auditor-General’s special report on the Highway Expansion project to become public. Are you as excited as I am?

    I actually think that traffic flow on the highway is much improved now.


  18. Improved from what total gridlock to crawl?


  19. @ Brutus

    You should also read the St.Joseph Hospital report regarding “breaching tendering and other practices”. The then Minister in charge is now the deified President of the Senate.

    Furthermore Minister Sinckler should not comment on anything to do with procedural breaches, just look at the bungling happening at UDC, so much so that he has gone mute on the matter.

    Did you see any advertisements for the Rapid Response Unit? Were/are the posts approved by the Civil Service?

    What about the recent appointment of a board member as Deputy Director for Operations?

    What are his qualifications and track record as an employee of the ever so productive NHC?


  20. Brutus perhaps you would be willing to offer an explaination as to why after increasing road taxes last year for the explicit purpose of “paying for the highway” are we now borrowing $165 million from the BNB to pay for it.

    At which time was Thompson lying?


  21. @Anonymous // September 3, 2009 at 7:25 PM
    Anonomous asked…..”At which time was Thompson lying?”

    I ask…… When was he ever telling the truth!?

    Politicians=Liars=Lawyers


  22. Still no comment from BU on the new highway project described in Barbados Today.
    According to BT it was an ‘unsolicited offer] which was accepted by the government.

    What about going to tender?
    Wasn’t that what the BAPE people where so agitated about last time ?


  23. It’s a bit mind-boggling that this DLP government was so critical of the former administration, as rightly so, yet since they got into government, the very things they were griping about they find themselves in. Millions of dollars were spent to find an alternative to fly-overs, they told us except for a few pedestrian crocc-overs, the ABC expansion was complete. Now we are hearing about $ 50 million dollars more to be spent to try to find alternatives to the Warrens back-up. If this does not work what next; another $ 50 million on another experiment? Is this Barbados or U.S dollars being quoted. Why not just admit that the flo-overs was the right solution and go ahead with it. most of the time any project that is estimated at a particular amount, usually finishes up costing twice as much. Plus we still have the “death trap” at the Wildey cross-section that has to be sorted out. When will this project ever end? Is this being used as a manner of fulfilling the obligations of certain gurus in the party to whom much was offered and expected. One wonders what will happen when the P.M has to take a long break, will the vultures then move in for the kill?


  24. @The Scout: “Now we are hearing about $ 50 million dollars more to be spent to try to find alternatives to the Warrens back-up.

    Kinda weird…

    Is this decision supported with software simulations of the results of this alleged $50 M expenditure?

    With *real*, *hard* data inputs to the simulations?

    Or are we in Barbados happy to pay tens of millions of dollars to find out if something might work…

    Rather than spending a few thousand dollars (four orders of magnitude less in costs) in virtual (but reasonably reliable) modelling, to figure out if it will work before we spend a cent moving earth…

    Just asking an obvious question…

    Any answers?


  25. Chris

    All professional companies do this.

    3S provided all the plans and simulations and told MPW exactly what would work and not work and they have been proved correct.

    But what is the point when no one takes on board expert opinion?


  26. This is all very intriguing I had noticed that there were what appears to be roadwork preparations going up to Redmonds.

    As to the lack of tendering process everyone knew that was just a stick with which to beat the BLP.

    This new contract has been awarded with no semblance of any tendering process to DLP supporters.

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