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stanec_engineersThe decision by the previous government to widen the ABC Highway and build flyovers will go down as one of the most controversial in a post-independence era. The issue of a flawed tendering process, and the ballooning cost of the project based on a rolling MOU couple with a haphazard changing to the scope of works became a political hot-potato topic in the lead up to the last general election. It was not surprising to many when the new David Thompson led government fired the hitherto unknown 3S Barbados company on assuming office. It should be noted it was done in melodramatic fashion from the floor of the House of Assembly.

BUโ€™s position on the unprofessional way the previous government managed the project is well documented (search BU using key words โ€œflyovers or ABC Highway).

The DLP government has cancelled, for the moment, the decision to build flyovers and in so doing had to retrofit the highway at considerable cost. We can continue to debate whether flyovers is the answer to relieving traffic congestion in Barbados, BUโ€™s concern remains on the process taken to bring us to this point and the subsequent engineering decisions taken by the current administration to complete the highway.

Before we revisit the Upton Wildey Triangle here is a bit of trivia about the ABC Highway:

Did you know that the Design Engineer assigned by Stantec New York to the project (Bryce Walker) hasย not visited Barbados.ย ย Stantec has an office in Barbados and is very active here? There has been numerous design errors, the levels near SOL Wildey gas station and the design of the concrete culverts and the pipe culverts under the road are just a few.ย  Some of these problems BU understands have had to be corrected after 3S left the project.ย  However, the problems with the pipe culverts under the road can only be corrected by digging up some sections of the road.ย  The culverts installed are 8″ diameter while the Ministry does not permit anything smaller than 2 feet diameter. According to our source the maintenance of these culverts will prove a monumental headache as time goes on.

BU must point out the information provided by our source does not gel with what is posted on Stanecโ€™s website.

To the death trap at Upton Wildey: the current situation must be arrested in the interest of saving lifes. Traffic attempting to exit from Upton and merge with the traffic zipping down the hill from the CBC end is fraught with unacceptable risk using our commonsense observation. If successfully clearing the Upton junction was not enough of a challenge; the real test awaits when drivers wanting to turn right at the SOL gas station. The challenge is to cross 3 lanes over a 100 metre stretch competing with traffic whizzing from left and right!

We understand the Ministry of Public Works and by extension the Minister John Boyce, himself an engineer is happy with the current set-up!


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  1. Coming down the hill….no right turn at Shell, re-route everyone in dedicated lanes around the Gary Sobers.
    Problem solved (temporarily).

    Even better – Highway traffic being able to turn right at Shell and the traffic from Wildey re-routed up the hill to the new roundabout.
    This may seem a little longer, but it would reduce the jams considerably.


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  3. Stantec Barbados has no affiliation with its overseas counterparts?

  4. Wright B.Astard Avatar

    What I find extremely dangerous,is coming down the straight and parallel lanes on the BET hill to be encountered by a peninsula jutting out like Cape Horn into the carriageway. Its like walking along a footpath, and someone on the side pushing his foot out to trip you up. This is road design at its worst.


  5. David I think you need to check your facts. The yellow pages lists a Stantec Engineering with an office in Black Rock. The Stantec website lists 14 projects in Barbados. I’d find it difficult to accept that they never visited here.

    Alot of misinformation has been presented to the public on the ABC highway from BOTH sides of the political fence.

    The Barbados Association of Professional Engineers has lost all credibility on their pre election stance on the highway. Their silence on the Wildey Triangle condemns them either as victims of political manipulation or as active political participants with no interest in public safety.


  6. @David

    Would in be possoble for someone with a video camera to take up a position somewhere along the hill leading straight up from the Shell station and take some footage showing the “near misses” that occur at that intersection and then display this video in public?

    It is most unbelievable that we have authorities in Barbados that could allow such a situation to continue. Just another example of “like it or lump it” being repeated from the this party in government?

    I find it hard to believe that it is expected for two vehicles approaching from opposite directions being channeled onto a single carriageway and then to expect these two vechicles to then cross in an “X” manouvre to exit this carriageway in opposite directions- one to move from right to left to proceed to LOB roundabout and the other to move from left to right to proceed to right turn at Shell Wildey!!

  7. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    I repeat comments made some 6 months ago, see BAPE And The Highwayโ€ฆPart 2, February 27, 2009:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++
    livinginbarbados // February 28, 2009 at 6:13 AM

    Wildey junction is a wonderful example of โ€˜highway madnessโ€™ in Barbados. Remember that a highway is supposed to be for โ€˜free flowing trafficโ€™. Yet, in Barbados, highways are interrupted by major stops (roundabouts and even pedestrian crossings), so from 80 kph to 0 kph is a common place. If itโ€™s a highway then it needs to be built with free flow in mind all the way . Otherwise, itโ€™s not a highway. Mixing the two notions does not work. In other countries, if you have highways, you have controlled entry and exits (eg, in the US/Europe with the on/off ramp loops) and they may be longer and circuitous but that is the price to pay to avoid collisions.

    Most countries that have roads joining at right angles use traffic lights to control the flows (you often have this when a highway ends and traffic has to go onto other roads). Roundabouts should really only be used for relatively light traffic flows, and most countries donโ€™t have them. The British, however, developed them a lot and Barbados has followed suit to deal with its many major right angle junctions.

    The logic of the ABC highway at Wildey suggests that traffic from Collymore Rock should flow via SJPP roundabout (so joining the main flow more safely). It also implies traffic from Upton going via Sagicor/Gymnasium roundabout. Both options then avoid crossing vehicles moving at high speed in a short distance.

    The concept introduced in the present set up is also one that most local drivers do not understand and have not been taught, and so creates added danger as people stop to assess rather than proceed and merge.
    ++++++++++++++++++


  8. So, let’s talk about “engineering”…

    My (CBC) MCTV service (delivered by way of MMDS over 2.5 GHz.) has not worked for about a month now.

    I’ve called the CBC main switchboard at 246. 467. 5400 at least three times now. They are always unable to help, but instead refereed me to 246. 228. 6288.

    So, I play the game… I call 246. 228. 6288. Today, for example, I once again called 246. 228. 6288…

    For the last hour now, I have had a PSTN call (origin: LIME PSTN) to this number. I have been hearing, for the last hour, exactly:

    “Thank you for calling MCTV. Your call is important to us, but our operators are currently assisting other customers. Please press one (1) to leave your name and number, and we will return your call as soon as possible…

    Engineering?

    Yeah, right. More like head up….

  9. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    Rather than repeat entries from February, may I suggest a re-read of the earlier exchanges, which I think put forward very workable solutions for the Wildey triangle.
    ++++++++++++++++
    Little has changed in the past 6 months in terms of road lay out, other than the markings being completed; though I note some change in driver behaviour coming from Warrens (maybe due to lower volumes around school holidays).

    However, one issue worth considering and it’s pertinent now. When road works are underway, such as along Collymore between the Shell and Texaco gas stations, the traffic is virtually gridlocked coming from Gary Sobers heading into town, as one lane only is available. Yesterday that grid lock went as far as along the road heading back toward Upton. That has the potential to create a total seizure.

    Some of that could be eased at least with some good advance warning, so that traffic arriving at Gary Sobers and wanting to head into Bridgetown direction could opt to turn left toward Rendevous, and use one of several parallel routes (eg Fordes Rd).

    Traffic wishing to loop round to head toward Bussa/Warrens do not really have a good option by the time they reach Sobers r/about. But maybe someone can consider if there is a work around.

    The real concern is high given the near term prospects of a hurricane (though Barbados is often bypassed) and having roads that do not allow free flow are recipes for disasters to occur.


  10. it would be far simpler for the government to implement the original flyover plan for these two junctions. I would remove most of the traffic from the CollymoreRock “parking lot” and allow most of the highway traffic to overpass this area completely.

    However Thompson has said “NO Flyovers” yet one more short sighted decision by a man who is out of his depth.


  11. Robin Hood

    Would in be possoble for someone with a video camera to take up a position somewhere along the hill leading straight up from the Shell station and take some footage showing the โ€œnear missesโ€ that occur at that intersection and then display this video in public
    **********************************
    Do you want this person to become a statistic? I agree that its unconscionable to complete the merger process with the crisscrossing of traffic safely at the intersection of the Wildey/Upton road. The whole area is an accident waiting to happen. Having used both roads (from SJPP and Wildey) daily a few months ago I found the area which juts out in the road to be problematic and if you are approaching from Wildey you have to stop to ensure that traffic from SJPP is clear before you can accelerate swiftly to continue along the Highway. I also remember a pedestrian crossing along the Highway near to SJPP. Pedestrian crossings on Highways now that is a novel idea whoever thought of that one should be given a medal.

    Prepare for more road fatalities

  12. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @Sargeant
    I recall, but cannot find the actual ref. quickly, a recent report that traffic cameras were to be installed somewhere on the island. One located as suggested and monitored by the police would serve a two fold purpose: review traffic transgressions/accidents, allow some pro-active traffic management. This is old technology so should be no problem; it can even capture every licence plate as speed cameras do/can in the UK/US.


  13. LIB

    โ€ข Some of that could be eased at least with some good advance warning, so that traffic arriving at Gary Sobers and wanting to head into Bridgetown direction could opt to turn left toward Rendevous, and use one of several parallel routes (eg Fordes Rd).

    ***********************************
    Several parallel routes? Where? You canโ€™t make a right on Fordeโ€™s Road (at least during rush hour) although there is an alternative road on top of the โ€œsmallโ€ hill which leads to Fordeโ€™s Road. The other roads are Golf Club Road and Hwy 7 (Coast Road) not exactly fast paced if time is of the essence.


  14. Anon

    However Thompson has said โ€œNO Flyoversโ€ yet one more short sighted decision by a man who is out of his depth
    ************************************
    Are flyovers the answer for a country notoriously lacking in upkeep and maintenance?

  15. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @Sargeant
    Point taken regarding rush hour. I should have said something like “and relax certain other restrictions…” (eg, the no entry coming down from The Observatory Road where it is joing Fordes Rd). When the road is gridlocked, any road that moves would seem better.

    I passed along the Collymore stretch at around 2.30pm yesterday, and that is not a time I would normally be there, so not sure if that is really rush hour there. It was galling to see ~16 workers mostly cooling out and listening to radios–gave them the benefit of doubt and said ‘late lunch’ break. One road planer/digger was working between Shell and Texaco, and not a sign other than ‘road narrows’ about where Curry King is (pretty late by then).

    My general point is that anticipation of problems can help a lot. What can you do when you arrive at the blockage, as with the closure of Station Hill recently.

    I don’t know if it’s right/left hand issues (private/govt.)


  16. @Sargeant,

    If you want to take that argument why build the highway in the first place? For that matter why build anything?

    It would have been interesting to see if the terms of the BOLT could have included maintenance. Of course we’ll never know the answer to that question.


  17. LIB

    One located as suggested and monitored by the police would serve a two fold purpose: review traffic transgressions/accidents, allow some pro-active traffic management. This is old technology so should be no problem; it can even capture every licence plate as speed cameras do/can in the UK/US.
    **************************************
    Simply as a monitoring and traffic management tool but the authorities would have to update the law if they plan to use license plates to prosecute. (Sometimes no one thinks of these things) It can be problematic proving that one was the driver of a car simply because it is registered to that individual.


  18. @LIB: “I passed along the Collymore stretch at around 2.30pm yesterday… It was galling to see ~16 workers mostly cooling out and listening to radiosโ€“gave them the benefit of doubt and said โ€˜late lunchโ€™ break.

    You give too much benefit of doubt…

    Anywhere else (or, at least, any where serious), this work would be done (efficiently) when the road network was least loaded, and least impacted… And *everyone* would be working…

    But, then, seriously — we’re not serious, are we?


  19. Anon

    I canโ€™t remember how many โ€œflyoversโ€ were planned but I think that availability of land and rising costs would also be an issue see attached posts

    http://bajan.wordpress.com/2007/08/26/operation-free-flow-flyover-project-barbados-road-network-infrastructure-improvement-project-to-triple-in-cost-from-usd60-million-to-usd180-milliongline-clarke-and-the-government-of-barbados-owe-b/


  20. @Sargeant: “I canโ€™t remember how many โ€œflyoversโ€ were planned

    Can anyone remember? Can anyone speak to this?

    @Sargeant: “I think that availability of land and rising costs would also be an issue…

    You are probably correct….

  21. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @Sargeant
    Demonstration does wonders (again s.t. laws). A listing or similar can have a salutory effect. (My example comes from how a national listing of tax delinquents led to a surge in tax collection.)

    Maybe no need to eat everything at one time. What happened in the UK and US was that the mere presence of cameras (and some were fake) curbed many excesses on the roads. Motorists cannot check so play safe.

  22. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @CH
    My thoughts were like yours, but I was not jumping to conclusions. But, I have heard various stories about why night work/off peak/weekend working is not the norm for such projects here.


  23. If we are serious about relieving congestions on our roads part of the solution must be how maintenance to the road network is done. How can important arteries in the road system be shut down for long periods during peak as a matter of right by MPW et al?


  24. The land for the highway was already acquired back in the Tom Adams day when his original vision for the highway was for a 4 lane highway (2 lanes either way) for the entire length of it. Adams blinked in the face of an extremely vociferous blitz of political criticism and naysayers so the land issue is already a nonstarter.

    The tragedy of this whole affair is that the BLP made such a hash of the original process that subsequent alterations have been not explained or defended.

    The original plan was for the highway to be widened at the roundabouts only to accommodate flyovers. The OBVIOUS criticism of this plan is that what happens when the traffic in the slower roundabout lane backs up past the widened bit. Of course the answer is that the highway traffic stops.

    Had correct studies been done we would have realised this before starting off on a half assed project. This then leads to a situation of widening the entire road, which makes sense in the context of flyovers but not as a solution to traffic backing up on the highway.

    Why is this? because traffic on the highway stops at the roundabouts which very easily become congested if there is the slightest blockage on one of the feeder roads. Hence an accident at the Combermere Junction can stop traffic in Warrens. With a flyover in place traffic staying on the highway can “fly over” and bypass the blockage. Traffic exiting the highway at the Hothersal Turning (in this example) can back up in the outside lane without stopping everyone. To my knowlege this has NEVER been explained by anyone in officialdom because no one wanted their name associated with the mal administration that was the ABC project.

    The BLP was punished by the electorate for the stupidity in the Administration of the highway (among other things) and then we have another act of political stupidity. Thompson in the political grandstanding act of the year cancels the flyovers.
    Done.
    End of Discussion.
    No wriggle room,
    No wait and see the impact of the widening.
    NO FLYOVERS that dog is dead!

    The problem with this is that the traffic problem on the highway is not one of width but of congested roundabouts where you have major roads crossing the highway. So in effect we’ve now spent whatever the amount is on the highway but not fixed the original problem. And further we have a political directorate that hasn’t left any room to back away from the decision gracefully.

    This cancelling of the flyovers now means that we have approaches to the roundabouts with THREE LANES but still we have clogged roundabouts (as per the Combermere junction scenario)

    It also means that we have the Wildey debacle. Which made sense when traffic staying on the highway was going over a flyover up Wildey Hill, it makes no sense when you are putting all of the traffic on the highway into the worlds narrowest parking lot called Collymore Rock. As for the arrangements for traffic coming from town on Collymore Rock or from St. Davids what you see is the best result of an engineer trying to make a silk purse of a Sow’s ear that was created by the politicians.

    So what we have now is the result of stupid decisions made by the BLP when Tom Adams blinked back in the 80’s compounded by stupid decisions made by the BLP in their handling of the project in the last administration further compounded by a dumb decision made by the DLP.

    And traffic still backs up on the highway!


  25. @LIB: “My thoughts were like yours, but I was not jumping to conclusions.

    Nor were you willing to take any risks…

    Were you willing to actually call things they way you saw them? No…

    Were you willing to reveal your real name? No…

    Were you willing to reveal your real identity? No…

    You, LIB, are (IMHO) an excellent example of why we Bajans are so far behind just about everywhere else in the world….

  26. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @CH
    When you see a situation and do not ask questions you can only speculate (thoughts). Maybe if there was not nose to nose traffic I could have stopped and asked, but did not. Hence no jumping to conclusion. It’s actually an equal risk to guess wrongly.

    My identity is no mystery, just go to my blog, http://livinginbarbados.blogspot.com. The handle is mere convenience.

    Sorry if I do not understand your last remark, ” Bajans are so far behind just about everywhere else in the worldโ€ฆ.” the HDI index (as a composite) means something.

    I apologize to Bajans if I have been mistaken for a Bajan.


  27. @LIB… I do so love debating with you. You are a worthy opponent…

    @LIB: “When you see a situation and do not ask questions you can only speculate (thoughts).

    Incorrect. You can also observe over time. And, yes, the individual observations are nothing but instantaneous, but over time they gain greater weight…

    @LIB: “Hence no jumping to conclusion. Itโ€™s actually an equal risk to guess wrongly.

    Absolutely correct. But, at the same time, absolutely wrong…

    They’re known as “working theories”. These are conclusions you’ve tentatively come to, baring disproving evidence. Working theories are an important tool of any serious thinker.

    @LIB: “…the HDI index (as a composite) means something.

    With respect, not it doesn’t. At least, not by anyone who actually knows what’s going on…

    To elaborate… The only reason the HDI index is so high is the high-wealth investment here in Barbados (read: mostly West Coast property owners).

    @LIB: “I apologize to Bajans if I have been mistaken for a Bajan.

    Thank you for this. This is perhaps the most important admission from you to date.

    Living In Barbados (AKA LIB) is not a Barbadian.

    Are you LIB legally allowed to be here?


  28. LIB

    What happened in the UK and US was that the mere presence of cameras (and some were fake) curbed many excesses on the roads. Motorists cannot check so play safe.
    ***********************************
    But the police in those countries have the law to back them up. Deterrents only work if there is the possibility of punishment for breaking the rules. The mere presence of cameras without accompanying laws will be a waste of time. If there are no laws the drivers whizzing by will be waving their middle fingers at the cameraโ€ฆ.. and they will not be checking to see which way the wind is blowing.


  29. Oh Barbados! What will become of thee.

  30. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @Sargeant
    Wont argue on law aspects. In fact, even where laws exist (eg running red lights) in the absence of enforcement they are not effective.


  31. @Sargeant: “But the police in those countries have the law to back them up. Deterrents only work if there is the possibility of punishment for breaking the rules.

    ***EXACTLY***!!!

    All it would take to solve most of the traffic problem here in Barbados is for the police to be able fine anyone who spends more than five (5) seconds in any round-about.

    (Read: as a result of the immediate above, no one would enter a round-about if they couldn’t immediately exit same.)

    The Government would (over the short-term) gain revenue from fines, and the traffic would “free-flow” without massive capital expenditure.

    But, as you say Sargeant, it involves both Laws, and Enforcement. Neither of which are particularly well respected here….

  32. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @CH
    Observe over time? Yes. I passed once only, therefore…If I go by several times and same situation, I will amass info.

    Working theory? Many reasons why all could be ‘normal’ seeing workers idle/apparently idle. Need to know length of work day, start time, etc. No info on that passing in my car.

    HDI all about west coast investment? Dont thinks so. Suggest you look at formula, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index#Methodology. Seems to be a lot more involved, and investment would only be explicitly in GDP component.

    Rights of abode? Asked and answered. I am trying to stay ON topic. OFF topic I will take by e-mail.


  33. @LIB: “OFF topic I will take by e-mail…

    LOL… DJ… chalsall at ideas [the numeral form of four] lease . [a common tld]. (Remove all spaces. Replace all square brackets with meaningful strings. Replace “at”
    with a common symbol. Remove the trailing period and space… Remove this round-bracketed string.)

    This has been fun. Let’s talk….

  34. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @CH
    Reply (off topic) will be sent by e-mail.


  35. @LIB…

    I’ve responded to the “Test” email.

    The ball is in now your court….


  36. Just for the record…

    The “ball” has now been bounced back and forth in private e-mail between LIB and myself…

    LIB will let me know when he’s available to meet me… I have offered one of my offices to facilitate…

    (Gosh!!! You’d think we were spies during the Great Wars!!!)

    (Oh, but to the contrary… In reality, we’re nothing. And perhaps it might be time we realized that….)

  37. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @CH
    As it’s OFF topic, I could say I don’t think it need be on the record…But keeping the ‘spirit’…

    For the sake of accuracy, you indicated where one office was…not offered it…I do prefer to stick with the facts.

    Truth, it seems like a normal sequence for the possible meeting of previously unacquainted, not really the stuff of Le Carre.

    I’m done on the subject, thanks.


  38. @LIB: “For the sake of accuracy….

    For the sake of accuracy…

    Let me please quote the entirety of my email sent to livinginbarbados 2009.08.19.2035…

    “One of my offices is in Wildey.”

    “Please let me know when you might be able to meet.”

    “Best regards.”

    Please let me, and us all, know, LIB, if the above quoted email was not exactly what you received….


  39. @BAFBFP

    Not sure why you worrying yourself with Zoe. Probably a white man anyhow or half white for sure. Here preaching the old gossip that everybody hear already. He worships a white god so don’t expect anything more. Just know that he/she is a distraction and treat them like how we used to do reddifusion sometime; just there keeping noise in the background.


  40. @ROK… Just for the record…

    If I May, it freaks me out a little bit whenever you talk like your immediate above…

    The last time I looked in the mirror, it appeared that I was a “white man”. (Admittedly, I don’t look in the mirror that often, so perhaps things have changed recently…)

    I personally respect you ROK. I would like to think you respect me. Certainly, we seem to have found that we work well together toward the common good.

    Just putting that out there….


  41. I am not an engineer but I do have some not so common, common sense. I have also driven in many countries that have peculiar, as in unique not odd, traffic laws. I also know an artisan who worked on the ABC Highway during the 3S days with whom I had several discussions during the construction phase. I hope therefore to shed some light on some of the questions asked here if for no other reason than to vent my own own anger and disbelief at the bollocks that has plagued the beleaguered “Operation Free Flow.”

    First off let me state that my initial opposition to fly overs (for aesthetic reasons) was tempered by the explanation from my friend that every car, truck, bus, motorcycle and bicycle east of the ABC and not going to town on Highway 1 or Highway 7 has to cross or use the ABC Highway at some point. A point borne out by the gridlock at the roundabouts in even moderate traffic. Thus I began to accept that if the traffic that wanted to stay on the Highway (over 65%) could be removed from the roundabouts traffic flows across the highway would improve concomitantly. So I became fly over convert. So far so good.

    Next I was told that Public Works believed that for the fly overs to have maximum effect the carriage way should be widened from two lanes to four. No problem with this either having experienced the back up that one single slow driver has on the line of traffic behind him. The old man in a hat syndrome. You know the kind I am sure.

    But then I began to hear of rumblings inside Public Works and a lack of cooperation from some of the senior engineers who apparently opposed the project from its inception. Coupled with feeble management by the Minister, and a mouthy engineering fraternity, who to my mind offered no sensible alternatives, I could sense the making of a political time bomb.

    Well so said so done. My dreams of getting from Wildey to Warrens in the fifteen to twenty minutes promised by the 3S engineers were shattered on the political opportunism of the present Government.

    Methinks that the ABC Highway will be to David Thompson what the St. Joseph Hospital was to Owen Arthur and once again as a citizen of Barbados I will pay the price. Worthwhile and needed projects abandoned for political one-up-manship. It certainly caused me to stop and wonder if my ‘X’ had fallen in the right box in January ’08. (answer to be given in 2013)

    The present re-design defies all reason. It is dangerous, contrary to accepted highway codes, it has not solved the traffic problem and is a monumental waste of money – except for those who were paid for this calamitous motoring experience. It is now the Highway from Hell starring John Boyce, the Ministry of Public Works and Abdul Pandor of the fatal St. Kitts bridge collapse fame. Pray that we have no fatalities here on the merge madness section opposite LIME.

    Oh and for clarification the Wildey Triangle is a scheme dreamed up by Public Works some time ago, which was gathering dust in somebody’s filing cabinet until the present Government decided to cancel the fly overs and ‘brax’ out it came – resurrected in all its stupendous stupidity and inflicted on us innocent and unsuspecting drivers who only want to make to town and back without using a whole tank of gas.
    Wish that I could be queen for a day – just one.

  42. livinginbarbados Avatar
    livinginbarbados

    @Sargeant/David
    “But the police in those countries have the law to back them up. Deterrents only work if there is the possibility of punishment for breaking the rules.”[One comment often made is that Barbados is a law-abiding country, where people gladly follow rules. I do not know if that was once true. Your comment suggests a change of behaviour or perhaps it always was as you suggest. This goes to the core of running a country. The recent images in the papers and on blogs of people dumping illegally are evidence of ‘catch me if you can’.

    When John Boyce, Minister of Transport and Works, addressed a a meeting at “Errol Barrow Gallery”/DLP Headquarters, on Jauary 9, 2009, the topic was “Transport in Barbados: 2009”. He dealt with many questions afterwards. I reviewed my notes from the meeting, to which I was invited.

    One point made by me and several others was that many traffic problems in the island could be solved by full application of existing laws, rules and regulations. No new infrastructure was needed. He broadly agreed. That goes beyond highway violations (driving without insurance, running red lights, speeding, etc.). It also includes abusive behaviour on the roads by PSVs (all classes), such as stopping not at designated places, plying trade off designated routes, overcrowding, etc. He was neutral when suggestions such as suspending/not renewing licences were raised.

    So, is the problem more about willingness to change behaviour and willingness to hold citizens duly accountable to the laws of the land? When traffic matters go to court magistrates seem to apply penalties very strictly, so one would think that they would love to see more transgressors.


  43. Yes indeed, a change of behaviour which concerns older Barbadians who kew what was. The discussion is how do we move to an acceptable position given our HIGH standards of the recent past.


  44. @ to all – Off message. I cannot believe it Barbados has WON a gold medal in the athletics. I will have the chance to listen the national anthem finally. Let’s hope that those immoral politicians do not jump on the band wagon. This is a miracle.


  45. I would imagine that teaching Bajans to drive would also help the situation at Wildey. Too many of us do not understand the concept of merging – accelerate, indicate, check, merge. Drivers should also be more courteous and allow traffic to change lanes, rather than purposely and aggressively preventing a car from pulling in ahead of them.


  46. It is not fair to say that the Guys from STANTEC never Visited the project. STANTEC has a local office headed by Andrew Hutchinson who is one of the engineers the would have worked on both the EIA and the actual drainage designs for the Highway improvement. So its kind of misleading to say they didnt have a prescence in Barbados


  47. Did an engineer from the parent participate?

  48. Jennifer Harding Avatar
    Jennifer Harding

    Jepterโ€™s False Start and the DLPโ€™s Cost Overrun

    Jepter Ince made his maiden speech in the Senate two Wednesdays ago on a resolution authorising Government to borrow $165 million by way of a bond issue through the Barbados National Bank (BNB) to finance the Barbados Road Network Infrastructure Improvement Project, which included the widening of the ABC Highway.

    Here is what he said:

    “This $165 million is going to cost us almost $229 million when you work out the interest rates,” he told senators. “And if my mathematics serves me right, on $165 million, 8.5 per cent interest should be around $13.2 million, and if you multiply it by 10 (years), you should get approximately $133 million plus $165 million.”

    However, when one listens to the explanation by Prime Minister Thompson when he spoke in the Lower House, this $165m loan has to be considered, โ€œa DLP cost overrun.โ€

    Perhaps Jepter Ince could explain to Barbadians – why are they being saddled with the repayment of a loan of $165 million when in his 2008 Budget, Prime Minister Thompson imposed burdensome and unnecessary road taxes on the people of this country?

    In fact, here is what Mr. Thompson said in his 2008 Budget:

    โ€œIn an effort to ensure that we meet previous commitments in respect of the ABC Highway project, I propose to increase the fees for the use of the highway with effect from August 1, 2008. The new fees will be as follows and are expected to yield an additional $46 million in a full year.โ€

    It must be remembered than when he appeared on: โ€œThe โ€œPeopleโ€™s Business/โ€ โ€œDLPTVโ€ – Minister John Boyce said that it will cost $134 million to complete the ABC Highway.

    Let us do the Math! $46 million every year for 3 years is $138 million – $4 million more than John Boyce said it will take to pay for the ABC Highway. So, why borrow when the taxes being paid could cover the cost of the ABC Highway in three years? And, since the DLP has decided to borrow, why not immediately reduce Road Taxes – as any caring government would?

    Yours faithfully,

    Jennifer Harding


  49. For some time now (since the days of Cedric Archer as CTO) the roads into Bridgetown were at or near capacity. The current discussion on whether or not we build flyovers therfore seems a moot point. What we need (and politicians seem to be unwilling to consider it) is a social solution (park and ride, monorail or complete decentralisation) since a technical solution will never be long term. There is no more land to build more roads into town and parking in town can only get worse.


  50. BU has update this blog to clarify the issue of Stantec personnel not visiting Barbados during the building of the ABC Highway Project. Stantec has a local office which was very active during the project, the issue under dispute is whether the engineer assigned by parent, Stantec New York visited Barbados at any time during the project.

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