….as for the Adrian Loverage article, it does not need serious contribution from the BU family. At it’s (article) core it is about BET, aka Cable&Wireless, aka Lime, and as such so much have been said about this company from as far back as the nineties. Much of what is occuring in telecom today was discuss and foretold as far back as 2003, on Barbados forum, by me and others. All that is left to do is walk away from LIME, there is nothing more to be said, real and serious action has to be taken.

@Adrian Hinds

I notice a certain inability to really read carefully and understand issues. I also note a certain persistent defensiveness about Barbados. It is not perfect and many people, not just yourself, can offer advice and comment on how it can be improved. If you do not like others’ comments, then feel free to heed your own advice and ignore them. If they are truly worthless, why waste your time with them? You cannot have it both ways.

A little thought would tell you that no issues are resolved by merely getting the person whose views you dislike to leave the discussion. That’s the 3 monkeys syndrome.

As a last observation, you feel capable to speak for everyone rather than letting each person speak for him/herself. That is patronising. Let others judge for themselves what contribution I or others bring, rather than elevate yourself to being THE JUDGE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND GREAT. Feel free to have your own blog and that way only you need be in the room.

If they do not like it that is their opinion but it does not make it law nor does David have to conform to their shallow empty mouthings as for royal mummbles as adrian calls it, like Henderson Bovell he has moved from a chairman of a board to officially a messenger of Mottley’s paid for by the taxpayers of Barbados.
No wonder h both of them are so disgusted with the electorate like Liz Thompson is as well.

I wanted to make a comment on this thread about LIME (Life In Misery Everytime) but then I read some of the postings and decide to forget about commenting on LIME.

I will re-iterate that I think it is totally unfair to ANY citizen of Barbados to be villified on this or any other blog by persons who are making scathing and sometimes horrific accusations under the cloak of anonymity. I think it speaks to the direction of our social environment. We should be able to disagree without taking the conversation to the sewage plant.

This thread started out talking about LIME, moved to someone being fired from a board to total filth. Is this the “news and opinions of the people” that we want to convey especially to our young people.

“A mature person is one who does not think only in absolutes, who is able to be objective even when deeply stirred emotionally, who has learned that there is both good and bad in all people and all things, and who walks humbly and deals charitably” – ER

BC

It will not stop unless we move away from picking on one person base on personal dislikes, rather than on who started the off topic comments. Royalrumble started to the off topic thread, WIV responded and all most everyone then castigated WIV. Not fair, according to you. ha ha ha lol!

….as for the fairness of calling persons name in here. You will not get any support from me. For too long things have been hidden, and not discuss in Barbados, to the benefit of the “too few” I feel no sympathy for these people, (Politicans) and will not attempt to subject a blog to a higher standard than what pertains in the Parliament of Barbados, where name calling by the same Politicos is standard fair. They will never be seen as victims by me. At any rate it is as Marlhole said, ..time to act against Lime, talking about it has gotten us nowhere, thus far.

I am not hiding when i call names. I would like to meet Dennis Jones fuh real though. It could be the shortest introduction ever. ha ha ha ha

The next thing they will be insisting is that david shut down the discussion on the immigration issue and the high number of illegal guyanese here in barbados.

VOB does not allow any discussion,the Nation newspaper is selective in what letters they publish while ricky singh and others have free rein saying what they like in that newspaper,so all we have is BU blog.

David this is one time I am glad that you are anony,ous.

Oh Tell me Why, I missed your question:

Maybe PiedPiper can shed some light on it. Some Canadians only a couple years ago where attempting to rub the strength of the Looney (canadian dollar) in the face of Americans. They came across the Border apparently in droves to buy up foreclose American property. Some even sought to suggest that what was taken place in America was contained at the Border. The fact of Canada’s export driven economy being fueled by American imports did not seem to matter. Well the Chicken may have come home to roost.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081002/election2008_ndp_sunday_081002/20081005?s_name=election2008

As fuh me i doing like most, trying to keep muh head above water.

@Adrian Hinds.

There you go again, to borrow the words of Gov. Palin: speaking for other people.

But aha, I hear the concern that ‘censorship’ might work to curb some excesses.

Now let me see if I understand your remark properly: “It will not stop unless we move away from picking on one person base on personal dislikes”. Hmmm.

Anyway, to help with the track record, I am also a former urban planner, former professional footballer, former track champion, former central banker,…Maybe I should have taken the CDB job at Wildey when I was offered it in 1990, to boost my Bajan credentials.

@BFP days are numbered. They are not the many white Bajans on the rock, not even if you include Dennis Jones. ha ha ha ha lol!

to whom it may concern: lol!

Wishing In Vain // March 18, 2009 at 9:41 am

If they do not like it that is their opinion but it does not make it law nor does David have to conform to their shallow empty mouthings as for royal mummbles as adrian calls it, like Henderson Bovell he has moved from a chairman of a board to officially a messenger of Mottley’s paid for by the taxpayers of Barbados.
No wonder h both of them are so disgusted with the electorate like Liz Thompson is as well.

Wishing in Vain aka Hartley Henry, not everyone can be like you and be the bagman for unscrupulous Caribbean Leaders. I certainly would not want to be like you, selling illegal drugs to young men while at the same time setting them up to be sexually ravaged by those with money who feel that money is the only leverage to life. The money you earn from the kind of operation you run will not sit well in my bank account.

But you must tell us on this blog about the $1.2 million you are collecting for your land that Costless, a company you encouraged Thompson to give a licence would be leasing and the finder’s fees you will be collecting for incinerator.

Anon I agree with you. BFP is now officially dead and that is simply because Ronald Jones, Thompy, Henry and Loveridge are now too busy to update their blog.

Am I the only one having to scroll through many comments not relative to this article to focus at this topic at hand?

Thanks for the link Livinginbarbados on the Update on the C&W & Digicel case.

C&W/LIME are acting in a manner thinking they’ll hoard off loads of money now from a competitor. Using a lawsuit against Digicel that is false.

From the time I heard the January 7th report of C&W attempts to sue a competitor. I found it worth of rubbish from C&W as “usual”.

WIV we don’t have to do any research, we are aware of those who use multiple names. In difference to what other commenters are saying could you and Royalrumble/Dark Knight take your political slugfest to this blog? The BU family has always been fairly sensible about these things. Look forward to your cooperation.

@Adrian Loveridge: “I want a REFUND!

@Halsall: “Then demand it!

Just wondering if you might inform us as your progress to date on your desire for compensation for service not delivered?

Explicitely… And seriously…

What have *you* done?

And what have been the results?

Please tell us what you’ve experienced.

@Adrian… Thank you for playing this game… (And it is game…)

I hope that each time you spoke to these three persons you recorded their first names (they will not give their last names — nor should they).

I hope that each time you recorded (on paper or audio) the exact time each exchange occurred.

I hope that each time you received an unacceptable answer that you asked to speak to their supervisor (and then their supervisor, and then their, and then their, ad infinitum…)?

(Don’t actually expect to be able to do so… The supervisors will almost always be “away from their desk” or “unavailable”…)

Never forget, this is carefully calculated a game…

Record and document *every* interaction. It is the only hope of compensation, and change.

Namestie.

WIV you wrote “and Owing as the last time he showed his face in Parliament he looked very aged and gaunt”

You lie. I saw Owen face to face in the store a few weeks ago and he looks fine. Better in fact than when he was PM.

I don’t like politicians of any stripe. But Owen looks good for a man who is almost 60.

Can you imagine someone being billed for ADSL service when they do not have any form of internet service?

Would you believe they do not know, or cannot give the mac address of the modem accessing their network from the line they are billing for this supposed service?

To any of BU’s technical experts, how is the immediate above possible?

Management should replace the sign on the outside of the office that reads Customer Care with the one inside that reads, Beware Of Customer Care, we would then only have ourselves to blame for daring to expect more.

Chris thanks for the advice.

#2 has already been done.

According to LIME, it appears that the modem was delivered.
The person who signed as having received the modem is yet to be identified.

Efforts to resolve the issue are continuing.

@ General Lee…LOL this is not an isolated case, happens all the time and the decision makers refuse to credit customer’s bills all the time plus they still bind the customers to the 1 yr contract. The funny thing is that customers accept it lol.

It appears that the adsl service was activated even though the modem was not delivered, hence the bill.

How can you activate and charge for a service when you have not provided all the equipment necessary for the customer to utilize said service?

How could you then “soft cut” an existing service, because the customer refuses to pay for a service he was not aware he had, and you are aware that you have not fulfilled all your obligations (providing modem etc.) to enable the customer to access your service?

After being aware of all the above, how can you still insist that the disputed bill be paid before the “soft cut” is reversed and at the same time assure that a credit will issued later for the said disputed bill?

Do you really believe that “…because it is already in the system it is easier to do it that way…” is good customer service?

Something is seriously wrong with a business model that allows a company to provide a partial service unbeknownst to a customer, charge for it even though the customer has not, and could not have used the service, forces the customer to pay the bill to avoid disconnection of existing services and in the end simply issue a credit.

Chris Halsall, In relation to General Lee’s problems.

Here’s something from ‘Cheryl’ relating to payments of Bills:

“Section 10:13
YOU MUST PAY YOUR BILL BY THE DUE DATE STATED ON THE BILL.IF YOU DONT PAY YOUR BILL BY THE PAYMENT DUE DATE WE CAN DEBAR YOUR USE OF SOME OR ALL OF OUR SERVICES AND CHARGE YOU INTEREST ON WHAT YOU OWE AT 1.5% PER MONTH. WE WILL CHARGE YOU INTERST UNTIL YOU PAY….

SECTION 10:8

YOU WILL NOT BE RELIEVED FROM MAKING PAYMENT TO US BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED A BILL SHOWING THE AMOUNT OWED ON YOUR ACCOUNT.YOU SHOULD CALL US IMMEDIATELY IF YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED YOUR MONTHLY BILL TO OBTAIN YOU CURRENT ACCOUNT BALANCE.”

Has the terms and agreement changed?

*may*