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Senator Arni Walters - Minister of State responsible for Immigration
Senator Arni Walters – Minister of State responsible for Immigration

Many months ago David – at Barbados Underground – and a few concerned bloggers brought to public notice the issue of immigration in Barbados; as they felt the majority Barbadian view was not being adequately represented.  David suffered the chagrin of many news outlets and some pseudo intellectuals for daring to raise such a delicate subject.  Despite this vilification David persisted.  At times immigration topics on BU became heated as some commenters allowed their frustration to be vented in colourful language and in a “few” instances, unnecessary disrespect to specific groups.  As a result individual comments were taken as the agenda of Barbados Underground.  It must be understood I cannot speak for BU, as I have no remit to do so, my comments are simply general observations.

It is with some satisfaction that in his briefing to reporters at Ilaro Court on Wednesday 14 January Prime Minister Mr. David Thompson remarked:

…there was a revocation of some of the discretion that was allowed the department, so we could look and see how the system was operating…

…there will be a shakeup…

…I believe that there are going to be major administrative changes coming in the new year in the Immigration Department

The question which immediately seems appropriate, was the system or discretion being abused in the Immigration Department?

David and BU have been vindicated, the patriots you are have withstood  the hubris masking itself as intellectualism and paraded before the populace as representing the majority Barbadian view, although they had no regard for the citizens whom they deign to disregard.

The Prime Minister has admitted some problems had surfaced in the administration of the Immigration Department, which need to be addressed and this will be done in the coming months.  In as diplomatic language as one would expect of a reasonable and competent Prime Minister – entrusted with the welfare of his country.  He alluded to things being wrong, which need to be addressed.

Whatever action is taken by the Government of Barbados, there are some on both sides of the debate who will be dissatisfied.  That does not matter, providing the action is appropriate in the long term for Barbados’ economic future and its “social cohesiveness.”

The debate – to my mind at least – was not about Guyanese alone, but it cannot be denied that Guyanese are the major part of immigrants in Barbados.  Evidence even if only anecdotal would suggest there was an illegal component which was/is causing concern.  The situation was not assuaged by those who in responsible positions; sought to confront the Barbados population as opposed to working with them.

They did their countrymen a disservice…wiser heads and better “counsel” will be needed to heal the breach.

Barbadians in the main are a warm hearted and generous people, but never take our kindness and acceptance of others, as lacking common sense or wisdom, it is not; for even if only temporary the tide suggest that…the wave of self preservation will ultimately reclaim what is ours and the “common people” will decide and prevail.


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  1. JC
    I would hate to do it but I get VERY uptight about the casual way bajans are letting themselves be led down a dangerous road. As stated on soooo many occasions, I know what these people are capable of and supported with other non-national e.g chinks, we will be conquered without a fight. It hurt me to say it but bajans are intellegent but not smart. They are allowing some dumb unintelligent people fool them into submission.


  2. Submission h ha ha ah no body aint beating JC into no submission or not one of my childrten as J would say my navel string BURY right here!


  3. Ace,
    You sure as ass know how to burst a girl bubble, but all is well. Me still luvs ya.
    Unlike you, I enjoy your contributions, even though most of it is C-R-A-P. Luv um bad. At least we agree on sumting.

    199,
    De 7-letta word is TACTFUL.Gotcha.


  4. ok anon I am writing to the Prime Minister I dont know when he will recieve this response however, I am one bajan who is willing to go the extra mile!


  5. JC
    I supporting you all the way.I am emailing the Prime Minister on Saturday and also all the parliamentarians on the government side.
    Lets show the rest we need action on this matter.This issue will not rest until we get all the illegals out of Barbados especially the Indo-Guyanese pests.

    I have observed that quite a few of the Transport Board Security Guards in the Fairchild Street Bus Terminal are Guyanese Nationals.I am wondering if those Guards are on work permit,or have permanent residency or citizenship.

    We cannot find Barbadians to work as Security Guards anymore.This issue is very intriguing.


  6. ‘Bonny’, ha, good try, but no, it in tactful but a far, more serious and unflattering, term!!


  7. Negro man
    Everytime I read one of your blogs, you coming with something new. How you they are security guards in the bus stand? Next, they are going to be police officers and custom and immigration officers and then the goose cook. Lord have mercy.


  8. David

    Wait you trying to behave as self righteous now as BFP and censoring bloggers?

    Anyway negroman I have learnt to pay attention to what you are saying and if the guards at the fairchild street bus terminals are guyanese or any other non national this shouid be exposed.

    I don’t care if they here legal or not.

    Thompson say jobs must go to bajan first.That doesn’t mean that a born and bred bajan go hungry and without a job while a guyanese who give some sex to an immigration officer and get a passport must be able to get that job.

    Thompson setting himself up for a big fall if he continue down the road of not taking this issue as critical and deal with it urgently.

    Anonymous we are very close to making some decisions this weekend about the future of BU. We believe in what we are doing but ultimately if it starts to consume our lifes i.e. the time it takes to manage comments etc then we have to weigh priorities. Please watch your accusations, we believe it is a fair request. Who can accuse BU of not giving commenters latitude over the months?

    The more we give the more some want to take. Human nature?

    David


  9. David thanks a million for allowing us to vent our fears and anger when the need arises. If you close BU it would be very sad but I think I can comprehend how much stress that comes with managing a blog! Respect

    However, I think that the treaty of Chaguaramus will play an interesting role in this saga with the immigration issue. Moreover, there are persons whom have come and started famlies and businesses here therefor the PM would thnk he has found himself in a bind! However, I think that I have to agree with NM and others Mr. Thompson has to check for BAJANS FIRST then anything else can happen!

    The business people love CSME exploitaton cant done ….


  10. David

    I am very open to fair and reasonable discussion but when I believe that someone is behaving in an unreasonable manner this upsets me.

    I have always,let me repeat ALWAYS been very supportive of you openly on this blog.

    I try so hard to ensure that I don’t cross the line that I go over my posts 2 or 3 times before posting it.

    There is NOTHING I said in that last post that came clear to crossing the line.

    T say that ‘I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a connection to a set of persons to the latest robbery’ – is to express my concerns.

    When the late kenrick hutson was killed everyone gave their opinion on what they felt happened,and the belief that he was killed by non national came up.

    From all reports this now seem to be the case.

    This arbitrary and inconsistent way of dealing with the blogs is giving me serious reason for pause.

    You cannot blow hot and cold at the same time and you have to go back to what you said your original intent for this blog is.

    That is how BFP started before they ended up where they now are.

    As soon as the bloggers made them popular they started cutting out comments,and putting people on permanent moderation because marcus, or cliverton or robert or whoever did not like something somebody said,and of course they all gave us their hear stirring excuse of what sacrifice it was to run the blog,and how much a favour they were doing us,and that they are considering whether or not to continue.

    It seems that we the people keep getting shafted everytime.As soon as we think we can trust you (whether politicians,blog owners whoever) they start giving you ‘the hand’.

    Sometimes I get the feeling that you are super sensitive and try really hard to please certain people.

    So when the BLP operators accuse you of just pandering to the DLP you go out of your way to show this is not so.

    When Norman faria get on radio and in print and accuse you of being xenophobic you give him unlimited access and publicity by publishing his crap.

    Hmmmmmm is all I will say for now.


  11. JC
    Yes, Barbados signed the Treaty of Chaguaramus but this does not over-ride the Barbados Constitution. I heard in the 7 a.m BBC news that there is a strike on in Britain over the use of immigrant labour over local and the same thing is happening in Scotland and Wales. Are these people branded xenophobic? I’m sure these immigrants are there legal but yet it is causing a problem, yet when we bajans complain about the illegals who are causing problems here we are insular. Bajans, we are doing to much talking, exhale now before we bajans burst.


  12. Just asking a question
    does it not seem that there is a link between the robbery at KFC and the one at Butcher’s? If there is similarity, then isn’t there also a link between the method of operation and the sprat of robberies that were rampant in G.T about a year ago when Cambios were being robbed? I’m just thinking aloud and asking ,maybe myself, some pertinent questions. Maybe, I should say like the late Burton Hinds of the Truth newspaper, quote ” I’m minding my business but I would like to know” if these things are similar in nature.


  13. There were four indo guyanese who robbed the KFC I know this as a FACT!

    The police didnt know that a robbery was taking place and were entering there at the same time ……… persons from the work place informed the police and they pursued a hired car when they got to an alley in Ch. CH they got out and fled on foot.

    This matter is being investigated ………..


  14. Thank you Scout for thinking aloud and minding your business.

    Glad that your comment was allowed to come through.

    I was also thinking along the same lines and thinking about the certain similarities in robberies for the past 2 years.

    Note the beating of the victim as stated in the news report.

    Remember what happened when village shops were being robbed with guns and the shopkeeper and customers were being beaten and shot?

    Bajans all over were talking about these types of robbery that were happening here in barbados.

    The robber yesterday spoke to the managerI am wondering did she recognise a particular accent?

    Let’s see if I too can wonder aloud.


  15. JC, where does the Barbados Constitution conflict with the Revised Treaty of Chaguaramas?


  16. Sorry, JC, that question should be addressed to Scout!


  17. JC, I said that Bajans were all talk because that’s true. Your friend who threatened to make the gas bombs…did he do anything besides say so. No, I am not in favour of violence. I am asking for peopl,e to find a more realistic way to deal with their perceived problems and to stop their imaginations running wild with fanciful threats of bombs and protests that will not solve anything and will not happen.


  18. If David decided to close this blog it will be avery sad development in the iformation sector of Barbados.

    David I hope if the decision is made to close this blog I hope you would have the courtesy to give us the reason or reason why the blog was close.pleas let us know if you have received pressure from other sources.


  19. Anon @11:24
    If as you say the police chased the hired car to christ church,then the police can easily check the hired car number which according to you was left behind, and the rental company has to show the police the records of whom that car was rented to.

    The police need to monitor the airport because I have been hearing that these criminals usually make a quick getaway after the act.

    If the journalists and others on the blog would explore in a responsible manner the new wave of crimes committed, and the persons convicted so far,then we the citizens would get a more realistic picture of the indo guyanese.

    It is very clear that most bajans see all indo guyanese are quiet,hard working individuals who come here to engage only in agriculture and construction,however while this may be true in most cases there is also a sizeable number of indo guyanese who are engaged in criminal acts – both male and female.

    Whether it is robberies,prostitution,stealing of produce,computers,burglaries,,bribing of public officials etc.

    Scout on this very blog has related to us over and over again how he suffered the loss of his produce at the hands of indo guyanese labourers.

    If we don’t get a true picture of the behaviour of these group of people – both good and bad – then we will continue to believe that their only crime is to come here and stay illegally – when it is clear that a growing number of them are posing a real and dangerous threat to our tiny island.


  20. Equity
    While I can’t quote the exact part of the constitution or quote it verbatim, it seaks about the protection of it’s citizens against foreigners/immigrants. We are a sovereign nation and our constitution supercedes any other treaty.


  21. Protection? Of citizens AGAINST immigrants? You must be dreaming Scout! I’ll tell you what is in the Constitution…NON-DISCRIMINATION against a person because of his nationality!


  22. Equity
    It seems you are a guru on our constitution. I told you i can’t quote verbatim, however, I’m sure protection of our citizens is part of the constitution. Are you then trying to tell me that bajans have NO job security against non-nationals in their own country? Mr constitution guru? I will have to check that.


  23. Equity I am smiling while I write this ……

    I EVER SAY THE MAN IS MY FRIEND?

    Listen, you FEEL AND THINK with all your heart that these things wont happen in ‘sweet little Barbados’. You think that people are stupid? Perhaps you think that the younger generation will not get pist off!

    You think we are so docile don’t you ha ha hahahahahaha!

    Martyrs are created through suffering you wait!

    Then you will be the first to state this should not have happened stupse and then a yawn!


  24. Why is it that every one can come and dictate to barbados like norman faria and the jamaican guy dennis jones on the blog’living in barbados’,but yet jamaicans and other west indians don’t let you say spit about their country or their countrymen?

    Imagine norman faria a semi-literate man believes he has the power to demand rights for his illegal countrymen here in barbados and yet we have apologists like peter wickham,owen arthur,annalee davis,olotoyue walrond and the like getting up to defend this action by faria and singh et al.

    I have to ask myself – what is in it for these people,that wickham,owen,davis,walrond etc?

    There is surely more to this than meets the eyes.

    Now we even have a st lucian so-called professor joseph living and working here at UWI Cave Hill and a jamican lecturer norman girvan all castigating barbados prime minister and his administration for saying this country can’t take any more immigrants.

    Now what the ***@#*** I hearing at all.

    Jamaica prime minister running out the haitans by the boatloads,Gonzales in st vincent say the land in st vincent is for vincys;st lucian prime minister stephenson says jobs for lucians first;and baldwin spencer of Antigu says Antigua for antiguans and at that he quickly deported a whole load of guyanese last year out of Antigua.

    But you see Barbados however is a special case and we must not open our mouths and say a word,because the whole caribbean laughs at us for being too passive and too frighten to stand up for our selves or our people, so they know they can always pelt a lash at us and we will be always rushing to explain ourselves and always apologetic.

    How else you can you explain that in these hard times the Barbados Workers Union gets up and says that there is too much guyanese bashing going on in barbados and we have to leave the guyanese alone.

    A union which is supposed to represent barbadian workers more concerned about guyanese migrant workers.

    How made the duke of york trotman and tubby bobby (morris) lords over us anyway?

    Have you heard the union say anything about sending home the migrant workers so the nearly 10% bajan men that unemployed could get some work so that they can feed their family?

    Tell me please,who is really looking out for the bajan workers and its citizens?


  25. Very interesting to read that no less a person than P.M. Gordon Brown of Britain has been quoted as saying over and over again:British Jobs for British Workers’.

    Now the country is about to experience a national strike as the country’s various union leaders meet to demand that the prime minister end the lotta long talk and inist that foreign firms getting contracts in Britain ensure that british workers are hired to do the jobs.

    Think you would hear Trotman and Morris saying that?

    Not in this lifetime!


  26. Anonymous, u sound like a ‘stirrer’ to me!! i.e. a stirrer-up of trouble!!


  27. Anonymous I agreed We have no one looking out for Barbadian workers.Norman Faria,Ricky Singh et al have frightened our Prime Minister the windbag David Thompson & now those individuals have frightened Leroy Trotman & Bobby Morris.
    Leroy Trotman & Bobby Morris are 2 of the biggest clowns that ever led any Trade Union.No wonder that Sandy Lane & The Royal Shop won the battles with the Union and as a result those unfortunate workers lost their jobs with little representation from that blighted union.

    Anonymous every country in the world looks after its own with the exception of Barbados.We have compassion for everybody else with the exception of our own.


  28. I need information concern Barbados visa…..
    sincerely


  29. Negroman, who could be more windbag that you? You are a single-issue thinker.


  30. What do you need to know Bruno ?


  31. Now that the debate on immigration has subsided. I want to draw Barbadians’ attention to those individuals coming mainly from Trinidad and Jamaica parading as financial experts in the Investment Banking sector. Often these persons do not qualify for free movement under carricom. This is allowed because foreign owned companies prefer to employ persons who are less sensitive when it comes to exploiting Barbadians. I will elaborate at a later date.

  32. mash up & buy back Avatar
    mash up & buy back

    True servant

    Please expose them,we as bajans need to stand up and stop all these people from taking us for a ride while our politicians turn a blind eye.

    Watch and see as jamaica lay off those 40,000 public workers and trinidad crime get worse they will all be heading to barbados.

    The jamaicans know no other caribbean country wants them – not caymans,not bahamas,not bermuda,not tortola not even antigua.

    This man thompson is not living up to expectations at all.

    Increase the immigration officers and do what britain,bahams,antigua and others are doing.

    Getting rid of and not encouraging migrants into their countries like with that stupid 2 year citizenship rule in the new immigration green paper.

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