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Marshall: How many Guyanese are there in Barbados?

Faria: That is a question to pose to the local authorities.

Marshall: You are the resident Guyana Consulate and you can’t

provide this information to the public?

Faria: Yes I have an idea but it is not me to provide this information.

Marshall: Oh come on! The public wants to know!

Faria: I have a meeting to attend so I have to leave the program.

Marshall: Thank you Sir.

This is a paraphrase of a discourse which took place between Tony Marshall (Brasstacks Host) and Norman Faria (Guyana Consul General in Barbados) earlier this week. Norman Faria originated the call to the program to respond to concerns raised that alluded to Guyanese involvement in crime in Barbados.

BU wishes to ask Faria why the need to shroud the issue of how many Guyanese are currently in Barbados? Has he ever heard of reverse psychology? The more the secrecy about this issue the more the public will want to know. Why not just deflate the issue by communicating to the public information to which they are entitled. BU has not forgotten that Mia Mottley promised to provide this information a few years ago, as far as we are aware this promise is still outstanding.

The matter of the influx of Guyanese into Barbados we think is an important issue for a number of reasons. A BU source as confirmed that the Guyanese population in Barbados has reached the astronomical number of 34,000 as at January 2007. The source also confirmed that the Royal Barbados Police Force and the Immigration Department have had to allocate significant resources to investigate the issues arising from the influx of Guyanese.

Additionally the source revealed that many Guyanese children have had to be accepted into the school system because Barbados laws make it mandatory for all children of school age to attend school. There is also stress being placed on the health care system and several other public services supported by the taxpayers of Barbados. Special mention was made of the pressure the Guyanese problem currently has on the Immigration Department which continues to struggle to maintain an accurate Guyanese database. It has become the norm for Guyanese to routinely enter Barbados using forged documents many times over. It was recently reported in the Press that a Guyanese woman after being deported seven times was still able to circumvent the system to re-enter.

The greatest concern for Barbadians has been the growing fear that the changing pattern in criminal activity is associated with the modus operandi of the Guyanese-especially the Indo-Guyanese. Other sources confirm that the recent robbery at Champers Restaurant and Lemon Harbor was perpetrated by Indo-Guyanese. The victims were made to lay prostrate on the ground and their personal effects of value was taken, before fleeing, they would have pistol whipped someone at random.

BU anticipates that we will be accused of being xenophobic. It is a quality which Barbadians seem to have mastered, to be more magnanimous than any other country in the world. No apology will be offered for expressing a concern which a growing number of Barbadians currently harbor. It is instructive that the unscientific poll currently being conducted by BU forcefully enforces the point made in the article. Barbadians continue to be afraid of the rapidly growing Guyanese population in Barbados. Several social services are under pressure and of paramount concern has been the changing face of criminal activity in Barbados. It is perhaps what is happening with the worsening crime situation which is of greatest concern to BU. Top of the mind is the recent report of Guyanese and Trinidadians who have been implicated in a plot to destroy JFK Airport.


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101 responses to “Barbadians Are Afraid Of The Large Influx Of Guyanese Into Barbados And The Changing Face Of Crime”


  1. Barbados is going to be hell on earth soon when the true impact of the guyanese is felt.

    But guess what,some iggrunt bajans believe it makes them look oh – so – intelligent to bash bajans for expressing their concern about the guyanese negative influence in this country.

    This is why norman faria can laugh at us and respond to tony marshal like he did above,after all if he poops too hard he can call in the media to report on it and they slavishly do.

    Well I guess all we bajan need to do is just wait for another 10 – 15 years until the guyanese and jamaicans bring barbados down to the level of guyana and jamaica – all compliments of Owen ‘de big tief ‘ Arthur.

    What a wonderful legacy for barbados – a complete erosion of our position as a model developing country – to another backwater banana republic.

    Thanks owen ma boy,thanks BLP,thanks barbadians who decided you were going wid owen.

    It seem that if you are not careful -you might be ‘going with owen’ straight to hell in a handbasket.

    Well done.


  2. This areticle above troubles me so much because it is not us – this current generation – who will suffer – but it’s the under 18’s who will have to deal with a new group of persons (ie indians) who black bajans belive think that this group see themselves as black people like them (the bajans) – but sadly what they don’t realise is that indians consider ‘negroes’ below them – and only good as consumers – or persons to bribe to get passports,loans,contracts and other benefits.

    More importantly,this gov’t which the BLP tout as being ‘the most brilliant’,with the’most brilliant economist’ at its helm – seem not to really care about the rapid downward slide of this country.

    In the USA right now,and in Britain ‘IMMIGRATION’ is the #1 issue for elections in these countries – their citizens are rebelling against the large influx of immigrants.

    Note,these countries are thousand times the size of barbados.

    Pray tell me,how can a government plan,or make futuristic public policies without knowing how much people you are planning for,what age groups we are dealing with – how our water supply,our roads,our land space,our garbage disposal capacity,our food supply,our hospital capacity,our school space,our transpotation system – etc etc – will be affected?

    You think owen really care?

    Remember when the BLP first came in – and David Simmons was attorney general – then thousands of guyanese and other non nationals were given amnesty to live free in barbados.

    Pay careful attention to this barbadians – because it is mighty strange that owen nor mia will tell us how many guyanese came in – minus how many left.

    What about how many got ID cards,passports ,citizenship etc

    Is this some big ruse to not tell us the numbers of guyanese here – so that when they say they want to give another blanket amnesty to these people – that we will not have an idea of the numbers?

    By the way BU – the numbers from a reliable source in immigration – is that the guyanese numbers are closer to the 100,000 mark than 37,000.

    Listen for the ‘so called’ enlightened ones’ arguments about guyanese working hard here,and bajans going overseas to work,and bajans being lazy etc

    When the sh*t hits the fans – it will be ‘too late,too late shall be the cry’.

    Why isn’t the opposition raising these issues,why do the moderators shut up the callers every time they try to express their concers about this influx on the call in programmes?

    The ‘so called intellectuals like Don marshall and peter wickham always pooh – pooh these concerns – I suppose they (that small miniority)work in other caribbean countries – so they feel they must defend the indefensible.

    It is time to march – this opposition is too weak knee and lazy.


  3. Let me just comment that I find some Bajans have got very prejudiced towards Indian looking people generally, Guyanese or not. So there is some under current there. Is it just mere numbers of Guyanese, is it that crime has escalated or is it because generally they have a better work ethic who knows.

    On another note re. strain on the economy because of this influx of Caribbean people, that was an obvious problem from the start. I would have thought that all these facets of CSME would have been discussed before the whole thing was rolled out.

    It is natural that Barbados being one of the more stable islands of the Caribbean, would have a higher percentage of people wanting to migrate there.

    We have the UK as a good example of this considering what is taking place these days. Everybody and their dog wants to migrate there. No wonder the British are so up in arms, I would be too as it is changing (or has changed) the whole identity of the UK.

    Would one not have thought that the leaders of the Caribbean would have learnt by the mistakes of the EU and try not to repeat them.


  4. There is a real fear with the Barbadian regarding the Guyanese issue. We are sure that PM Arthur is cognizant of what happened to Christie in the Bahamas recently. Similar concerns about immigration and corruption combined to send his party to the opposition benches when it was thought they would regain the government easily.

    Do we see any similarities with what President Bush is reported to have said in his weekly radio broadcast and what we are discussing here?


  5. Anonymous, I don’t know how old you are, but you may not remember that when Tom Adams was P.M., it was not the Guyanese, it was Vincentians and St. Lucians. They were being brought into the island to swell the voting numbers for the BLP. Now it is the Guyanese. Opposition? Don’t make me laugh. There is not ONE politician, nor political party that will take a stand on the Guyanese issue. They are all too weak-kneed as you said and they all want the votes and they don’t care how they get them. WE ARE DOOMED.


  6. Thislte~I think that you are wrong. This is crunch time for David and he has to go for broke. The risk of not attacking an issue which currently is resonating with all Barbadians is a risk which I don’t think he cannot afford to take. If he vacillates on this issue he loses…AGAIN.


  7. Thistle

    The vincentians and st lucians integrated well into the barbadian society because they were black and there were commonalities between us and them – not so the indians – note how whichever country they go to they all set up enclaves and are extremely clannish.

    Do you remember how they behaved when barbados played Guyana in the regional games?

    Same behaviour when India is playing the West Indies in Trinidad – a large percentage of the indian population turn up and support India.

    What is going to happen with this group is – like in Britain and elsewhere – they are waiting until they get sufficient numbers on their side to begin making demands -e.g. we want indian public holidays,we want indian prayers alonside christian in public functions,we want equality in numbers in the houses of parliament etc etc

    Bajans are asleep and snoring and these middle class ‘high -brow’ politicians don’t really have a clue.

    As for David Thompson speaking out against this – remember he has esther suckoo in his line-up who is half indian.

    Even so David thompson being half white might feel a bit disloyal speaking out.

    You see people can make the distinction about discussing race relations and discussing the possible social impact which happens when you introduce an ethnic group which has a particular history of not integrating well into other societies with other ethnic groups.

    It’s takes guts Barbados Underground to discuss this topic boldly and honestly – and let the chips fall where they may.

    Right now norman faria got us by the b*lls


  8. David: I hope and pray you are right about Thompy.

    Anonymous: Your comments were well thought-out and comprehensive, but I’m wondering if the issue with Esther Suckoo is really relevant, because she is mixed and consequently not a full-blooded Indian. I very much doubt she is Muslim. I’m not sure Norman Faria is capable of grabbing ANYONE by the b*lls – he is an imbecile and the government of Guyana should be ashamed of keeping him in the position he is in.

  9. Wishing in Vain Avatar
    Wishing in Vain

    Have any of you taken it seriously that a very large percentage of the crimes now taking place in Barbados that most of them are being committed by these same Guyanaese??
    Just take a look at the pages in the Nation any day now and see if they are not featuring almost daily now.
    Their numbers have reached dangerous proportions and it needs to be addressed maybe not by Owing as we all know his stance on having them here, so maybe we need a change of Gov’t to bring this action about!!


  10. Re. large minority groups making demands on the island…..not possible unless the Government allows it. The island belongs to Bajans and hence we can control what takes place here.

    Again the UK is a fine example of what not to do. They are trying now to rectify what had been happening since the 50’s.

    Why can’t the government of Barbados look and learn.


  11. Iriebrown: How can we Bajans “control what takes place here” when the government is encouraging it? We can’t do a damn thing about it, and if the government changes, the next lot will say they are committed to the CSME and any Tom, Dick and Harry from the Caricom area can come here. And where can we go (if at all we want to go anywhere else) – Jamaica? Trinidad? Antigua? NO THANKS. Just as the traditional British identity is fast disappearing, so will ours. It’s not only the Guyanese committing crimes here, it is the Jamaicans too. May the Lord help us.


  12. Thistle~does BU detect a defeatist attitude? Barbadians are known through the years for making good decisions. Do you think that the discussion we are having is all part of the process to sensitize our nation of the need to create a plan which we all can fit in and not something from Owen’s head?


  13. David: It is not difficult to adopt a defeatist attitude in the Barbados of today. Putting aside the Guyanese (and others) migration issue, look around you and see the conditions that almost amount to anarchy – the minibus/ZR culture, violence in schools, road rage on the highways and byways, littering and pollution – on and on, ad infinitum. Laws are being broken as if they don’t exist, and there appears to be NO ONE IN CHARGE (even in Immigration – what are they doing about the illegal immigrants?) As to the discussions on this web blog, and others, yes, they are definitely a “process to sensitize our nation of the need to create a plan”, but how far-reaching are these discussions? Are they getting through to the masses? I have to admit I am very despondent, but I love Barbados and would live nowhere else!


  14. Thistle~BU understands your state of mind but do not despair!
    It is one reason BU has been asking all those reporters/journalists and other influential individuals that visit BU and we are sure BFP has well, to help us. We all have a stake in building a better Barbados. BU has sent emails to influential Barbadians to ask them to make contributions on the many challenges facing Barbados, they have all been reluctant so far citing fear of victimization.

    We have inquired discretely the possibility of procuring email databases to target Barbadians so that we can increase our circulation with little success
    The point which BU is making is that we can only do it with the help of others.


  15. David, I must say I appreciate your interaction with bloggers, and it’s good to see that you’re actually doing something to increase the circulation. I can’t say I blame many Bajans for their fear of victimization. I know for a fact that a well-known personality who appears on other blogs has been able to access my IP and knows who I am. My computer technician is going to help me to stop that happening in future. I’m not au fait with such computer technology! I wish you all success in your endeavours.


  16. If you want to really worry about something look to the US and deportees coming from US jails schooled in serious crime. Look to Jamaica and the drugs and gangs and the boats silently anchoring off the East coast. Even look to the kidnapping spree in T&T. Everyone’s entitled to worry about immigration but to blame crime and social ills on the Guyanese is nonsense and to specifically target the Indio-Guyanese is straight up racist. Nobody wants over-immigration of the Guyanese or anyone else because it causes all sorts of problems, crime included, but let’s keep it in perspective people.


  17. Well said James !

    I think really it’s an excuse because they are giving Bajan workers a good run for their money as they have a better work ethic generally.

    Barbados has never had to work for what they have, it has just literally fallen into their hands. Tourism ……because Cuba went under it opened up the whole Caribbean. Hence the attitude that …service or value for money doesn’t matter, people will still come.

    Attitudes will not change until Barbados goes through a really rough time and it actually hits everybody in the face and they realise the reasons why.

    As our grandparents used to say …’ If you don’t hear, you will feel !!!’ And we will eventually.


  18. Please don’t trivialize the concerns of Barbadians over this issue. People who live on the ground can see the impact on the society each and every day. It is not the only issue which is engaging Barbadians. Should we just sit back and witness the negative impact and say and do nothing? Barbadians by dint of astute management has been a model economy to the world and we deserve to benefit from it. Ok, BU agrees that times are a changing but it is a process which calls for the type of change which does not happen overnight.

    The wish that we should hit rock bottom to witness some epiphany is a cop-out position in our view.


  19. David,

    I certainly didn’t make it a wish in my comment, I think more of an equation.

  20. Watching and waiting..... Avatar
    Watching and waiting…..

    James:
    Well said.It sickens me to hear people ready to cry down the Guyanese like that.
    A true perspective would be the number of bajans who are exploiting them daily also.
    We have immigration officers who are doing a brisk trade getting them in the country for a fee.
    We have marriages for money in order to achieve status,work permits for non-existing companies and the list goes on ….
    We very bajans are contributing to the influx also.
    Then when the numbers rise and we have made our money we cry out when things get rough.
    We are a reactionary people and that will be to our demise…….remember how the ZR culture was created?


  21. Watching and waiting~your statement is contradictory. If Barbadians have concerns about the influx of Guyanese is this not showing that we are <em>proactive</em> in this instance?
    Your other points about Barbadians exploiting the Guyanese are other problems which we have to deal with which <em>does not preempt</em> the substantive issue at hand.


  22. Tell me which other country so despise its own that it insults its workers,shuts up its citizens when they complain,suspends its immigration officers – when complaints are made against ‘foreigners’ coming into their land.

    Foreign – not part of,not local etc- so don’t bring this regional dribble to me – I’m talking about this small apace,this rock.

    Living in Barbados blog seem to have picked it up,the undercurrent in this society with bajan citizens is so thick you can cut it with a knife.

    I’m always curious as to why people like James and iriebrown feel so strongly about these guyanese that they will wish to decry the sons and daughters of this great land – and promote the guyanese as ‘the best thing since sliced bread’.

    Me,I’m just tired ,bajans too iggrunt boasee – the gun in front their face and they will tell you -leave it – is only a lollipop.

    Que sera sera.

    Barbados underground – I suppose people are still taken up with BFP – and not too sure who you are so they maybe scared of posting – however I will compliment your on your high standard of writing – a rarity these days.

    Your typeset needs to be a little bigger,and you need to posts multiple posts per day if possible to keep the blog lively and up to date.

    I find myself checking in more often now,if only for comments.

    One parting shot – I find most bloggers posts on whatever topic here and on BFP – boring,poorly expressed,repetitve – and sometimes a waste of space – but guess what – that’s freedom of speech for you – which I cherish dearly.

    I hope bajans will soon start showing some life and not be dictated to all the time- I hope the opposition take the lead instead of always playing catch up after the people have spoken.


  23. Anonymous~thank you for you favorable feedback. We would like to do what you have asked but personal commitments make it difficult to blog with such frequency. We had asked BU readers out there to send us contributions so that we can list other perspectives. So far only Bush Tea has responded.
    The size of the font is controlled by the theme which we are using. Unfortunately we would have to use the same theme which BFP uses to get that font style and we did not was to do so for obvious reasons.


  24. I just hope that this blog is fair and balanced to all topics and views.
    In my humble opinion,people tend to draw close to gossip and rumors rather than truth and facts.
    I like what I have see so far on this blog especially the interaction with David…shows me that there is always feedback..not only when you disagree.
    Keep up the good work guys ,I’ll be sure to spread the word among my fellow bloggers.


    BU got your email, not a problem!


  25. I disagree with more than 50% of what’s written by BU but at least what I’m disagreeing with is well written and well moderated. For me, the best Barbados blog by quite a distance.


  26. I wake up each morning feeling depressed at what is happening in Bim. Yesterday and this morning we were advised to keep on driving to a police station should we encounter an attempted robbery while driving at night. How many stations can be accessed late at night? Who is really looking out for the locals?


  27. JEFM

    Who is looking out for the locals you ask?

    Well certainly not owen ‘de big tief’ arthur.

    Why aren’t more of you writing letters to the newspapers editor,sending e- mails to starcom,calling the talk shows,harrassing your opposition candidates to speak out more ,and more importantly stop renting these non national who are commiting crimes your homes,hiring the illegal ones,selling them your passports?

    Barbados is now the haven for criminals from the region – ie hardcore crime;
    as well as for criminals from the international countries – ie white collar crime – corruption,money laundering etc

    The writing is on the wall – if we don’t start packing back these criminals,and putting wrong things right – this ticking time bomb will explode.


  28. Annoymous: Why aren’t more of US not corresponding or communicating with the media and our representatives about our concerns?
    Don’t we? How many letters are not printed? How many e-mails are NOT read out to the listeners by the moderators? Can we reach our MPs readily? Do they return phone calls? What do you want from me? Blood? We, the natives, have to love each other and unite in the struggle for our offspring and for our country. We must start a ground swell and let the politicians understand what we want while being peaceful.


  29. http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/news-2016–13-13–.html

    I think the above article highlights the problems in Guyana which through CSME threatens the rest of the caribbean.


  30. Jodiperry

    Thank you for that link.

    It reinforces what I know to be true that persons of indian descent especially those in the caribbean have no love for their fellow citizens of african descent.

    There are so many examples I can give,but you know what,as soon as you start highlighting these things bajans somehow think – well that’s Guyana or Trinidad – it won’t happen here in Barbados.

    Well you just wait and see barbados.


  31. Jodiperry.

    That news story is an eye opener. This is what Mr. Owen Arthur has brought upon us


  32. No wonder Bim is the way it is today- you are all a bunch of racist small minded a-holes.Stay in your little holes and spew racist venom, you cowards!!!


  33. Canadian~can you explain what you when you wrote “No wonder Bim is the way it is today”
    Bim must be doing something right if it continues to attract hoards of immigrants. Please note that all countries around the world today are battling with the problems of immigration-even the USA and UK.


  34. I’m talking about the decline of society in Barbados that started long before the ‘influx of Guyanese’- the ZR culture, the loose morals of the young and the crime that is ever increasing due in large part to drug use among the population.And I don’t think they are black! But, it is easy to blame outsiders. Get your head out of the sand, guys! Barbadians aren’t perfect! Furthermore, if you want to be racist why don’t you guys talk about the selling of Barbados to the noveau riche whites from the UK and other countries,making land unaffordable to locals? These people have no love for blacks- they view us as inferior and merely as their servants. A transplanted white immigrant to Barbados once cussed me out, telling me ‘it’s a white man’s world’ What about 10% of the population controlling 90% of the economy in Bim? This continued dispossesion of locals by the rich outsiders and white locals create further ills of society, don’t you agree?
    As one Bajan said to me ” Barbados has lost its charm” What a tragedy for our beautiful country!

    These problems started long before the Guyanese came in their numbers, and are only intensifying. It is always easy to play the race card and blame others for our problems. Please don’t take this the wrong way, but in every bunch there are bad apples,and for sure there are idiots among the Guyanese who can give all a bad name, but it is a rather sad commentary when Bajans want to blame others entirely for all the problems they have created.

    Oh- some of the immigrants to the countries you mention above are also Bajans such as myself, so should we be blamed for the ills of those societies and the ‘problems of immigration’ that you so eloquently state above?


  35. Canadian

    You say you are bajan(got my doubts about that),you call yourself canadian (tells me a lot about how you see yourself),and yet you pompously arrogate to yourself the right to tell us bajans who are living here under the horrible conditions created deliberately by this BLP administration – you tell us what we should or should not be saying?

    How come you defending the guyanese so though,you’re guyanese or what – or you married to one?

    Let me tell you, the guyanese who are here in numbers close to 100,000 I’m told – are destroying the hardwork that my foreparents built up to make Barbados what it was (not is), – these set of guyanese literally represent the dregs of that society – the ones who were left at the bottom of the barrel and were not able to get out.

    Sadly all the decent guyanese with skills ,trade and profession – left guyana a long time ago – what we are getting now – are the labourers in the rice and cane fields coming to Barbados to work in construction because they hear they can get easy money – pretending to be masons,carpenters and plumbers and mucking up people’s homes,we are getting the prostituties from as young as 12 or 13 – who according to the bajan prostitutes (as quoted in the daily nation),- these guyanese ones are willing to debase themselves beyond imagination – walking around the garrison in bras and panties and like in everything they get into – undercutting the bajan prostitutes.

    We have those who pretend to be maids,but really specialise in breaking up the homes they go to – by enticing foolish bajan men – or those (especially the indian ones) who prey on our old senior citizens pretending to care about them,and wanting to look after them – and then – whaps palacks – they get the old man to marry them – then quickly divorce him – and they bring in their husband who was in Guyana all long – but would pretend to be the ‘brother’ when he visited Barbados.

    People with mindset like that will do anything.

    People with mindset like that – who don’t value their bodies or thei lives – can be found in the middle east – as sicide bombers – there are some things as a people you will find that bajans don’t stoop to – that’s why the other islanders -called us ‘too proud’.

    These people are like on a plague on this once sweet island.

    All I want the opposition to do,is to immediately on assuming office,get them all out of this country – we can’t afford for these numbers to remain – – they must not fall for any for any ‘poor me’ stories that norman faria will run to the media with – and most importantly to send all these current politician tieves who plundered the treasury like Idi Amin and mobutu sese seko did to their countries – to send these bajan dictators to jail for their crimes.


  36. Oh boy, we’re having it all today: Canadian’s calling everyone in Barbados racist but hates whites, Anonymous thinks that there’s 100,000 Guyanese hiding in an island that’s 21 miles by 12 and that they should all get kicked off and I’m thinking that if they did, there would be nobody to do the work that Bajans are now too educated and wealthy and complacent to do themselves. It happens everywhere. In the US it’s the mexicans, in the UK it’s the Poles. There is vast amounts of evidence that they eventually integrate (some less than others) and support developed economies by providing cheap labour. Like the Irish in the US, they eventually get wealthy, get integrated and start complaining about the new wave. They also bring problems but immigration is a necessary part of our world today, like it or not, and certainly helps support Bajan lifestyles. Alot of the comments in this post are blind predjudice. Nothing more, nothing less. Let me be clear, there is a problem, and there needs to be limits but it has to be put in perspective. And I’m not even going to comment on Anonymous complaining about the Guyanese prostitutes undercutting Bajan girls. Come on…


  37. James
    Thank you for your comments. Obviously, you are sensible and level headed. No, I do not hate whites, I was merely explaining that us Bajans ( yes Anonymous, I am Bajan) tend to ignore other aspects of racism in Bim, and tend to focus on other ( possibly weaker) groups to direct their frustration at the system in place. Contrary to how it may come across, I am VERY tolerant to other races and cultures, with living in a multi cultural society like Canada. I fact, I relish the multi culturism here and wish that we in Barbados could be more open. Additionally, I will never paint everyone with the same brush- there are lots of decent Bajans such as yourself whom I would never refer to as racist.
    Anonymous, your rant does not even warrant the dignity of an answer.


  38. You can’t respond to my charges ‘Canadian’ – plain and simple.

    I don’t know where James live – but he produces the usual bourgeoise ‘I’m comfortable,not my problem’ answer – that is, -guyanese are doing jobs the bajans don’t want to do.

    My friend – where have you been for the last 2 years as bajans artisans complain daily on the radio of guyanese getting all the jobs as Bajan employers – concerned only about their profits – hire guyanese and pay them 30 – 40 % less than the established rates.

    Check out today’s daily Mail (british paper) where an MP complained in the house of commons that a young constituent of his was rejected because the hirer told her she couldnot speak polish and all of the other workers spoke polish – so she wouldnot be able to communicate and would be ostracised.

    Like the Mp said:”Don’t bring that crap about polish workers and others doing work the british don’t want – because it isn’t true – british workers are being displaced from their jobs as the foreign workers come in and employers enjoy this influx of ‘cheap labour’.

    When you see the rioting and the social unrest start here in barbados it going to be ‘cat piss and pepper’ – I hope they head straight for your lovely well appointed bungalow james – that is if your actually live among us – if you don’t well – we will just have to live with the shit while you pontificate in comfort from outside.


  39. Gosh Anonymous
    You are so full of venom! It must not be healthy for you to live day to day so full of hate! Chill out man- think about your blood pressure before you give yourself a major stroke, breds. (I hope you go to church often to cleanse your soul!)


  40. Typical rubbish my friend.

    We are not dealing with me.

    In case you have forgotten,let me remind you, the topic is – “BARBADIANS ARE AFRAID OF THE LARGE INFLUX OF GUYANESE”.

    O.k.?

    It is clear that you simply cannot deal with the issues raised – that is,either can’t or won’t.

    Just in case you think this is a bajan thing – let me inform you that in – Antigua,Tobago,Trinidad,St Lucia,Dutch St Martaaen etc, the locals and their immigration depts are up in arm about the growing presence of the guyanese in their communities and the resultant negative influences.

    Guyanese are to the caribbean – what nigerians are to Africa.

    They leave in most cases a negative impression wherever they go.


  41. My goodness, Anonymous
    You have swayed me!! I now feel part of the Barbados National Party of Indo Guyanese Haters! Hmmm… so that’s what the members of the KKK felt like …..
    Get a life,chap. Get rid of the hate,or else it will consume you. End of contact with you.


  42. Hi James
    As proof of what I was saying, please link to the following:
    http://bajanreporter.blogspot.com/2007/06/bbc-2-shows-miss-daisy-is-alive-and.html


  43. Peoples

    Tell me, how do you converse with an idiot eh?

    I ‘ll leave him in his ignorance.


  44. Anonymous, Canadian is not so ignorant and I think makes great points. It is my personal experience Guyanese do work that Bajans don’t want to do – try hiring a Bajan maid!

    Also they work their backsides off, I have a Guyanese maid that puts in an 8 hour day and I have to plead with her to go home at 4:00. A very close friend just built a house with 90% Guyanese labour, these guys worked 7 days a week, hard as ever, with no turnover in labourers. The 10% Bajan contingent? These guys were constantly late to work, lazy as ever, and turnover ran at over 100% over the life of the project.


  45. Furthermore, this type of stuff should be good for the economy if it encourages Bajan’s to work a little harder and be a bit more competitive and productive.

    Workers in this country have become a bit too complacent and have an attitude of entitlement. Gone are the days of “pride and industry”, we no longer seem to take pride in a job well done nor are we industrious in any way I have obsertved lately.

    We should be afraid, but we should use that fear to drive much needed changes and improvements in our attitudes and our approach to work.


  46. K

    For obvious reasons I cannot go into too much specifics,so suffice it to say – your one swallow doesnot make a summer.

    I have had in my experience to be able to compare and contrast the work ethic of workers from through the caribbean:maid,labourers,artisans etc

    I beg you,do not keep spreading the myth that these guyanese or others are better than bajan because they are not – as a whole. In an isolated instance the good work ethic can go either way.

    From my observation, the guyanese (indians and africans) were tricky – 80% of the indian guyanese who claimed to be artisans were not – usually there was 1 person in the group skilled and he moved among them slyly showing them what to do – needless to say they had to be let go –

    They were paid the same high rate as the bajans but if they were not monitored while on day work they tried to slack too.

    They wanted to work 7 days a week – not caring if it was Sunday or Xmas – because their religion didnot recognise these days – and any way – the main aim – was to make money at any cost.

    The bajans with a few exceptions knew their trade but had become arrogant and tried to skimp you like the guyanese and they didnot like to be criticised.

    However I found some excellent bajan workers who did what they had to do and were quite reasonable.
    The st lucians,vincentians and Trinis – if they worked on their own would put in a better effort – but slip up with them and they also tried to trick you.

    From experience personal and friends experiences – guyanese maids generally in some case turned up early where the home owner was at home,if the employers were out working,they came at 9:00 and left at 2:30 p.m. – they always had a sob story to get something from you,they didnot know how to do proper housework -other than a basic sweep etc

    They always wanted to borrow money,or wanted a favour,and if there was an adult male in the household – a few would try to get to him.
    So much to say,but I’ll stop here.

    All I ‘ll say is that this will come to an end soon,and you will soon see’who is who’.

    If a man is a refuge illegally hiding out in someone’s country – he will be compliant until he has his papers in order – then we will be asking – where are these nice,hardworking guyanese’.

    Just think about this – ask serious small contractors and they will tell you that a lot of barbadian masons,plumbers etc have to be called back in to work on many an unsuspecting bajan who thought he was getting a good cheap deal – and hired these ‘so- called skilled artisans’ – and found out usually after much wasted money and time – that they weren’t getting a deal after all.


  47. Canadian, Anonymous, K.
    Unfortunately as Barbadians we have a tendency to hide our heads, when we have a problem that we cannot deal with effectively.

    This debate is raging over at the Barbados Free Press http://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2007/05/24/bajan-man-shot-robbed-in-guyana-something-smells-like-fish/#comment

    Canadian, although I take some of your points, I had me a little confused as I tried to figure out if you were Barbadian, Canadian, or Guyanese. Let’s put it down to, you are a Human Being – that is pretty neutral.

    I can agree with a lot of what Anonymous is saying. I fully understand the right for a “man” meaning male or female to always look to better his circumstances. However, Guyanese cannot now talk themselves out of a situation that they have behaved themselves into.

    They are viewed as dishonest, conniving and basically no-good, why?, they have behaved that way.

    I have hired a Guyanese maid – the experience, not a nice one. A close relative married a Guyanese woman – the experience – not a nice one, hired Guyanese workmen – the experience – not a nice one.

    To end in a Bajan adage for all those who looking for cheap labour and ppl to exploit. What Sweet In Goat Mout Does Bun He Behind!


  48. Thank you Warrior.

    Finally, a bajan has the cahones to join this debate and put paid to those who try to tell us that what we are feeling is not so.

    Cat piss and pepper soon I tellyou hear?


  49. Geez..and I thought it was hot over at BFP,decided to come to a calmer site…and ..bam!!Really cat piss and pepper here…
    Look what a day makes..James is bourgeoise too?

    Warrior sums it up well which save me a long post.In my line of work I come across a lot of Guyanese workers who are supposed to be skilled.On observing them work ,I have to agree with Anonymous here.I had a case where one did not know the difference between a dust brush or a particular paint brush.In another instance one guy was asked to cut 20 pieces of wood at 3 ft 7 inches.This guy was hired as a carpenter but could not read a tape,so one guy who could, cut the first piece for him and he measured it 19 times.
    There are tricksters in every field…who the hell likes work anyhow?
    If given the chance, we would all do nothing for money.
    As a bajan what I would like to see is some form of pool where all artisans are registered with the Ministry.There you can see that there are officially qualified to do the work,hence hold the title.
    They did this to technicians ,who now are government certified,any time you want to know if a tech is qualified you can check the list at the Ministry.


  50. Anonymous :

    What you have to realize is that a lot of people come on these sites and comment but have no clue as to the real deal here.
    Some think that reading the Nation News or Advocate online give them a true perspective.They need to get in the trenches like most of us and see for themselves what the situation is like everyday,them see if there thoughts will be the same.

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