The following comment inspired the blogmaster to expand the focus on data collection and discussion about the COVID 19 pandemic. Thanks to @Lyall@Amit

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David; re. your 4:41 am post;

You are correct but I have indeed considered that cohort of the population.

The reason that the US experts are beating the drum for testing, testing and more testing is to get a handle on what proportion of the general public has been compromised by the virus in any way and has left its signatures in body fluids including blood in the population. The virus is shed from the infected body as the disease is brought under control. When it is controlled it has been found that it takes around 7 days for all particles to be shed from the body. Infected persons are released back into the community when they test negative twice over a period of 2 days.

Barbados, like all of our island neighbours, did or does not have access to large numbers of tests and had to use what we had very sparingly. Thus, the only measure that we had for gauging the incidence of the virus in the population (and a very imperfect one, at that) might be by comparing the evidence of infection levels hinted at by a comparison of the graphs of the progress of the various Covid-19 outbreaks in our Islands.

Most of the world was in the same position as the Caribbean and used the data obtained by the minimal testing of infected people and their contacts and their contacts to produce the graphs we see on such sites as WHO and Worldometer etc. All these graphs give an imperfect picture and significant underestimation of infection levels in the county or country in which the tests are carried out, but, since they are carried out in the same way in each country they might provide some rationale for guesstimating the comparative levels of the infection in various groups of countries.

The data shows that, starting out at essentially the same levels, there was some divergence in relation to the rate of infection and therefore progress of the various outbreaks in various countries. The graphs for Barbados showed low and declining levels of infection from the beginning, peaking at the level of 13 positive cases per day and thereafter showing a slowly declining trend. The individuals who would have contributed to the declining trend would have been primarily from the contact testing but should also have included other individuals referred by Health professionals or who presented themselves to Government institutions because of concern that their symptoms might point to untimely death due to the dread Covid-19.

Amit, in an earlier post on this blog, reported on his initiative of graphing Covid-19 incidence over weekly periods throughout the epidemic, in several Caribbean Islands. If David thinks it is appropriate and Amit agrees I can post a subset of graphs clipped from his data for 6 Caribbean territories which I think could illustrate some of what I have presented above.


Covid 19

There was 1 more positive case announced today as well as 1 death. A slight uptick of the daily cases line is indicated in the graph by the blue line. The total cumulative number of positive cases from the tests carried out yesterday is 76 – Llyall Small

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Attached is the updated C-19 graph for 2020-04-23. There were no additional positive cases from yesterday’s tests and therefore cumulative positive cases remain at 76 – Lyall Small

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Two new positive cases were identified from yesterday’s tests. There are now 5 cases of contacts with a previously identified individual. The 5 cases are workers from a Government Institution. Tests are ongoing today (25 April 2020)Lyall Small

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Updated graph for 26 April 2020. No new +ve cases were found. Cumulative count is still 79 – Lyall Small

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There was one additional +ve case identified today (27 April 2020) from the last tranche of NAB workers moving the cumulative total cases to 80. The graph is still essentially trending downwards – Lyallsmall

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Graphing Covid-19 incidence in several Caribbean Islands – Source data: caribbeansignal.com

3,454 responses to “COVID 19 UPDATES”


  1. 214,000 people died in the American atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    More than 4 times that many people have so far died of COVID19.

    878,071 dead,dead, dead, of COVID19 so far.


  2. COVID19 deaths per 1 million population:

    San Marino 1237
    Peru 890
    Belgium 853
    Andorra 686
    Spain 629
    U.K. 611
    Chile 600
    Brazil 590
    Italy 588
    U.S.A. 580
    Sweden 577
    Mexico 513

    Barbados 24


  3. If we had not been so “lucky” to use Critical Analyzer’s term, and if we had been as unlucky as San Marino we would already have had 360 COVID19 deaths instead of 7


  4. “Lucky” places with zero COVID19 deaths so far:

    Anguilla
    Bhutan
    Cambodia
    Dominica
    Eritrea
    Faeroe Islands
    Falkland Islands
    French Polynesia
    Gibraltar
    Greenland
    Grenada
    Laos
    Macao
    Mongolia
    New Caledonia
    Saint Barts
    Saint Kitts and Nevis
    Saint Lucia
    Saint Pierre & Miquelon
    Saint Vincent
    Seychelles
    Timor Leste
    Vatican City

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  6. Hotelier says protocols too harsh
    Barbados’ new protocols for entry into the country during the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic have been given the thumbs down by a veteran hotelier.
    Ralph Taylor, chairman of the SoCo Hotels Group, and who formerly operated Almond Beach Village in St Peter, said the existing requirements for entry into Barbados were too restrictive if the country was serious about re-energising the tourism product.
    In a release yesterday, Taylor, a former chairman of the Barbados Tourism Authority, said while there was the need to protect Barbadians from the coronavirus, it was important to find the balance between protection and restarting the economy so people could be employed, and families begin to recover from the financial mess they were all in.
    He said most hotel workers had been unemployed for five to six months and this had had an impact across the economy.
    “At present very few hotels are open and while there is a projected reopening for October, this is a moving target as occupancy levels are very low or non-existent. Unless there is an increased level of bookings, hotels will find it unprofitable to reopen.
    This also presents a challenge to planned increased airlift that would require significant passengers,” Taylor suggested.
    He said a more aggressive approach was needed to get visitors to the island and that the current requirement to be tested a maximum of three days prior to
    arrival, eliminated too large a market share from consideration.
    Additionally, the former president of the Caribbean Hotel Association said he believed the 14-day quarantine requirement for all American tourists made little sense when the average American visitor stayed an average of five and a half days. This, he stressed, eliminated one of the country’s major markets, adding Barbados received around 220 000 visitors from the United States annually.
    “In this regard, to continue to close the market would have a significant effect of our ability to rebound,” Taylor argued.
    He said there was need for greater flexibility and creativity to exploit the limited opportunities which now existed, and even the willingness to take risk.
    As such, he is recommending an increase in the number of days required to be tested prior to arrival.
    “We should allow Americans that are tested by reputable institutions to visit our shores with a negative test, and the appropriate daily checks could be made while on holiday by local health authorities,” Taylor noted.
    He cited St Lucia as an example where all visitors were allowed into the country with a valid test, adding this was beginning to show results. He said there were no visitors in isolation in St Lucia at the moment.
    The veteran hotelier said while people were travelling in reduced
    numbers, there was still a market for Barbados and the region. He cited a July survey by Travel Zoo, a major provider of direct business, reflecting that of their large consumer database, 56 per cent of clients indicated a willingness to travel in 2020 and 63 per cent in 2021.
    (BA/PR)

    Source: Nation Newspaper


  7. Guyana’s active cases seem to be slowing while Jamaica’s and Trinidad’s appear to be accelerating in the wrong direction.  Grenada and Barbados cases seem to be steady with no official community spread.

    There is a long established international trade principle that a country should not impose seemingly blanket C-19 sanctions based on a health condition which is of widespread super pandemic incidence in that country, without proper scientific justification based on detailed risk assessment studies.   

    It seems to me that small island tourist economies should explore the ramifications of this on a regional / international basis re the current seemingly arbitrary restrictions in travel imposed by certain countries.

    Lyall Small


  8. Coronavirus cases in the Caribbean as of September 7 at 11 am: 161,123

    LOOP NEWS  CREATED : 7 SEPTEMBER 2020CARIBBEAN NEWS 

    Confirmed Caribbean coronavirus cases as of today, September 7:  

    Related article :COVID-19 Update: Jamaican tests positive on arrival

    • Cuba- 4352 cases, 102 deaths, 3642 recovered  
    • Jamaica- 3103 cases, 33 deaths, 958 recovered  
    • Bahamas- 2546 cases, 58 deaths, 976 recovered  
    • Aruba- 2449 cases, 14 deaths, 1206 recovered  
    • Trinidad and Tobago- 2254 cases, 35 deaths, 734 recovered  
    • Guyana- 1468 cases, 46 deaths, 954 recovered   
    • Guadeloupe- 1363 cases, 18 deaths, 336 recovered  
    • Belize- 1194 cases, 15 deaths, 287 recovered  
    • US Virgin Islands- 1190 cases, 17 deaths, 1069 recovered  
    • Martinique- 758 cases, 18 deaths, 98 recovered  
    • Turks and Caicos- 598 cases, 5 deaths, 264 recovered  
    • Sint Maarten- 511 cases, 19 deaths, 302 recovered  
    • Saint Martin- 239 cases, 6 deaths, 79 recovered  
    • Cayman Islands-205 cases, 1 death, 204 recovered  
    • Barbados- 178 cases, 7 deaths, 154 recovered  
    • Bermuda- 175 cases, 9 deaths, 158 recovered  
    • Antigua and Barbuda- 95 cases, 3 deaths, 91 recovered  
    • Curacao- 92 cases, 1 death, 45 recovered  
    • British Virgin Islands- 63 cases, 1 death, 10 recovered  
    • St Vincent and the Grenadines- 61 cases, 58 recovered  
    • Saint Lucia- 26 cases, 26 recovered  
    • Grenada- 24 cases, 24 recovered   
    • Dominica- 22 cases, 18 recovered  
    • Saint Barthelemy-18 cases, 13 recovered  
    • Saint Kitts and Nevis- 17 cases, 17 recovered 
    • Montserrat- 13 cases, 1 death, 12 recovered  
    • Bonaire- 10 cases, 7 recovered  
    • Saba- 5 cases, 4 recovered  
    • Sint Eustatius- 5 cases, 3 recovered  
    • Anguilla- 3 cases, 3 recovered 


  9. https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/247579/barbados-records-180th-covid-19

    A 53-year-old Swedish visitor is Barbados’ latest case of COVID-19.

    He arrived from Sweden on a charter flight on September 3, and was positive for the viral illness on his second test, five days later.


  10. @David,

    So will ALL arriving passengers require a test 5 days after they are in Barbados ?


  11. COVID-19 FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
    1.Who is placed in isolation?
    Anyone who tests positive for COVID-19 is placed in isolation at Harrison Point, St Lucy. They must receive two consecutive negative tests before discharge.
    2. Who is placed in quarantine?
    Persons arriving in Barbados with a valid negative PCR COVID-19 test from a high risk destination are placed in quarantine for one week, after which they have the option of being retested. If the retest remains negative, they are discharged from quarantine and are monitored for seven days. If they decline to be retested, the quarantine runs for the full 14 days.
    3. What is involved in monitoring?
    People arriving from countries categorised as medium risk are free to go about their business once they are in possession of a valid negative test on entry. They will be monitored for a 14day period, during which a public health officer will check daily to make sure that they are well. Effective September 14, persons arriving from medium risk countries are required to take a second COVID-19 test after five days. Anyone declining to take the second test will be subject to quarantine for seven days.
    4. What are the options for quarantining?
    Persons must quarantine in the state-owned facility at Paragon, or at one of the Governmentapproved hotels or villas. While in quarantine at a hotel, they are confined to their rooms, while at Paragon or a private villa, they are confined to the premises. In all instances, only minimal contact with other persons is permitted.
    5. Who is required to take a COVID-19 test?
    Everyone entering Barbados from countries categorised as high, medium and low risk for COVID-19 is required to take a COVID-19 PCR test. Travellers are strongly advised to take the test
    prior to arrival. If they are unable to do so, the test will be administered on arrival at the port of entry.
    6. Who is exempted from taking the COVID-19 PCR test?
    Persons travelling from countries categorised as very low risk, and who have not travelled to or transited through any country designated as high, medium or low risk within 21 days prior to travel to Barbados, are not required to take a COVID-19 PCR test prior to, or on arrival.
    7. Which COVID-19 test is acceptable in Barbados?
    The test required for entry into Barbados is a negative COVID-19 PCR test from an accredited facility. If the traveller is coming from a high or medium setting, the sample must have been taken within 72 hours prior to arrival. If the person is coming from a low risk setting, the sample must have been taken up to five days prior to arrival in Barbados.


  12. Coronavirus cases on the rise in the UK https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54116939


  13. David;
    Thanks for the info above. I was unaware of the distinction they make between Quarantine and Isolation.


  14. Ontario reports 213 new cases of COVID-19, marking highest daily increase since June

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-covid-19-cases-september-11-1.5720383


  15. QUEBEC CITY, QUE. — The number of daily COVID-19 infections is steadily increasing in Quebec and, for more than a week, has passed a critical threshold leaders had previously identified: 20 infections per million people.

    https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/after-crossing-self-imposed-threshold-of-covid-19-cases-quebec-shifts-the-threshold-1.5101370


  16. The computer literacy of school children should improve greatly because of having online classes.


  17. Test kits from Argentina
    Argentina has donated 10 000 COVID-19 test kits to Barbados.
    Argentina’s Ambassador to Barbados, Gustavo Martinez Pandiani, and Songee Beckles, director of the Best-Dos Santos Public Health Laboratory, received the 120-kilogramme cargo at Terminal 2 of the Grantley Adams International Airport recently.
    The kits arrived against a background of cooperation between the two countries and Argentina’s contribution to the fight against the COVID-19 pandemic.
    Pandiani said: “I am thrilled to finally receive the donation from the government of Argentina to Barbados because this virus can be very strong, but the friendship between our two countries is even stronger.
    “Since Barbados is reopening the island to tourism, these tests will be very useful in the recovery of its economy.” ( PR)


  18. Let me register my continuing support for the GOB in their management and development of
    protocols for the COVID-19 virus.

    Phrases like “punching above our weight” are a source of humor to me, but in the handling of this virus the government’s response surpassed my best expectations. If it is luck or if it is skill, we should just be appreciative and accept the win.

    It is my sincere wish that as we move from issue to issue we can find a “bunch of jokers” with similar luck or skills as those responsible for managing our COVID-19 response.

    Those ‘jokers’ have my respect. Continued success to you.
    HAGD

    —–xox——–
    Normal programming will now resume.


  19. The Government via BTMI has updated the travel protocol – follow link to BU files.


  20. Ontario has surpassed 200 new cases of COVID-19 for the second consecutive day.

    Provincial health officials are reporting 232 new cases of the virus today, up from the 213 reported on Friday and the 170 confirmed on Thursday,

    Quebec ” 244 new cases, bringing the total number of confirmed cases to 64,707.”

    Airlines fly directly to Barbados from these two provinces of Canada.


  21. Attached are graphs for week ending 11th September. The patterns are essentially the same as has been occurring over the past several weeks. Jamaica and Trinidad continues to show expanding active cases. Guyana follows them and Barbados and Grenada shows no community spread so far. The Barbados graph that compares cumulative cases with daily cases has been changed to correct earlier errors in the placement of the flags that indicate milestones- Lyall Small

    See COVID 19 Update Page


  22. Easy, easy…


  23. Canada

    Ontario just reported 313 new covid cases up from 204 yesterday.

    Should we be rushing to Barbados to escape ?


  24. A 20-year-old Jamaican woman tested positive on arrival at the Grantley Adams International Airport aboard Caribbean Airlines yesterday.

    A 42-year-old Guyanese woman, who arrived on September 9 aboard Trans Guyana, also tested positive yesterday after a second test.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/09/14/two-caricom-nationals-test-positive-for-covid-19/


  25. The steady increase in new cases of COVID-19 in Canada’s most populated provinces is a concerning trend, according to the country’s chief public health officer, as hospitals work to keep intensive care admissions manageable.

    Dr. Theresa Tam said in a statement Monday that an average of 618 new cases have been reported daily in the last seven days, particularly in Quebec, Ontario, Alberta and British Columbia — 20 per cent higher than the previous week.


  26. Barbados may have to rethink their Covid 19 strategy and revise the risk categories.

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-ford-says-further-lockdowns-possible-if-covid-19-cases-continue-to/


  27. What is our epidemiological model? Where is the Czar? Who is in charge of the science? We are doing well, but WHY are we doing well?


  28. Chinese ambassador praises Barbados’ handling of virus
    BARBADOS has been lauded for the control it maintained in the management, control and prevention of the spread of COVID-19.
    The praise came from Ambassador of the People’s Republic of China, Yan Xiusheng, during a courtesy call with Minister of Home Affairs, Information and Public Affairs Wilfred Abrahams, at his Wildey, St Michael office yesterday.
    The Ambassador was accompanied by director of the Political Section, Gao Jin, and attaché Xin Wong. Permanent Secretary in the Ministry, Deborah Payne, also attended.
    Abrahams said China has always been a “willing partner” in assisting Barbados and can now be considered a “traditional partner”. He added that China had made a mark in the Caribbean with its movies, which sparked interest in its culture.
    “For most Caribbean people, that was the introduction of Chinese culture, but we have come to learn of China as a business partner, a friend in need and as a protector,” he said.
    Abrahams added that he looked forward to the development of mutually beneficial relations.
    The Chinese Ambassador said that Barbados and China had signalled their solidarity in cooperating in the fight against the COVID-19 pandemic.
    He noted that China had provided expert advice to the island on the management of the virus and personal protective equipment for essential workers on the front line. (BGIS)


  29. Two new COVID-19 infections

    TWO CARICOM NATIONALS are the latest COVID-19 positive cases in Barbados.

    A 20-year-old Jamaican woman tested positive on arrival at the airport aboard Caribbean Airlines on Sunday, and a 42-year-old Guyanese woman, who arrived on September 9 aboard Trans Guyana, tested positive after a second test.

    One person was released from the isolation facility at Harrison Point, St Lucy, yesterday after recovering from the viral illness.

    There are now 11 people in isolation, while 165 have recovered. Barbados has recorded 183 cases, comprising 96 females and 87 males.

    The number of tests conducted by the Best-dos Santos Public Health Laboratory has surpassed 20 000. As of yesterday, the lab had completed 20 121 tests.(BA/PR)

    THE COVID-19 DASHBOARD as released by the Barbados Government Information Service yesterday. (BGIS)


  30. WHO: Covid-19 cases surge in one day
    LONDON – The World Health Organization (WHO) reported a record one-day increase in global coronavirus cases on Sunday, with the total rising by 307 930 in 24 hours.
    The biggest increases were from India, the United States (US) and Brazil, according to the agency’s website. Deaths rose by 5 537 to a total of 917 417.
    India reported 94 372 new cases, followed by the US with 45 523 new infections and Brazil with 43 718.
    Both the US and India each reported over 1 000 new deaths and Brazil reported 874 lives lost in the past 24 hours.
    The previous WHO record for new cases was 306 857 on September 6. The agency reported a record 12 430 deaths on April 17.
    India leads the world in new cases reported each day and set a global record last week with 97 570 cases reported in a single day, according to a Reuters tally. In some parts of India, medical oxygen is becoming hard to find as total cases exceed 4.75 million. Only the US has recorded more cases at 6.5 million.
    COVID-19 infections are still rising in 58
    countries, including surges in Argentina, Indonesia, Morocco, Spain and Ukraine, according to a Reuters analysis.
    New cases are falling in the US and are down about 44 per cent from a peak of more than 77 000 new cases reported on July 16. Cases in Brazil are also trending downward. (Reuters)


  31. David, the cases are surging worldwide. Sad to say, I think that medical authorities will push for more lockdowns. But poor people cannot take lockdowns. It is hurting the poor everywhere. There needs to be worldwide assistance for the people in trouble because of the lockdowns, but that will not happen because there is a XXXXXSS in the head house.

    Ultimately, the large developed countries have to take the lead, instead, apart from China, smaller countries with women leaders, as in Barbados and New Zealand, are showing the lead.

    What does this say, when in 2020 the large developed countries cannot protect their citizens and ensure their well being, let alone contribute internationally to global concerns?

    Capitalism is showing its gross lack thereof. Much for the few, little for the rest.

    A new day will dawn, like it or not. The people are coming.


  32. @Crusoe

    It is a difficult situation we find ourselves in. Almost all countries in the world are struggling. Even New Zealand.


  33. Mother and daughters in Isolation after one child tests COVID-positive

    Update dashboard from the Health MinistryUpdate dashboard from the Health Ministry

    Barbados recorded one new COVID-positive test result at the same that four more recoveries were discharged.

    ​A 12-year-old Jamaican girl tested positive for COVID-19 on arrival at the Grantley Adams International Airport yesterday on board a Caribbean Airlines flight from Jamaica.

    The child, who has gone into isolation at Harrison Point in St Lucy, was accompanied by her mother and sister, who both tested negative.

    ​Meanwhile, four people left the isolation facility today having recovered from the viral illness. They recorded two consecutive negative test results to be discharged.

    ​The number of active cases in isolation have dropped to eight, and recoveries have increased to 169. However, the two negative cases are also being housed at the government Isolation facility so 10 persons are in Isolation technically.

    The tally of confirmed cases is 184, comprising 97 females and 87 males.

    ​The Best-dos Santos Public Health Laboratory conducted 201 tests yesterday (September 14) bringing the total number completed since February 11 to 20,322.

    Source: Loop News


  34. @ David,

    Don’t be surprised if Canada has a ” second wave “.

    ” Ontario hospitals alarmed by increase in COVID-19 cases, warn province ‘losing ground’

    Health officials say the surge in new COVID-19 cases across Canada is largely due to an increase in public gatherings and are warning Canadians to limit their social interactions.”


  35. An eight-year-old female visitor, who arrived on British Airways on Tuesday, tested positive for COVID-19 and is now in isolation.

    The child, who is asymptomatic, was accompanied by her parents, who both tested negative.

    https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/247693/child-tests-positive-covid


  36. Where is the Czar? What is our epidemiological model?


  37. There is no czar and the minister of heath has publicly stated he is managing what is in front of him.


  38. Until next time, David.

    Steupse.🤦🏽‍♂️


  39. @ David,

    The Minister could monitor the increased positive cases in Canada, the UK and the USA.

    Barbados may need more isolation centres soon.

    Possibly 2 more years of Covid related misery.


  40. @Hants

    Even if a vaccine was ready tomorrow, the logistics of distribution translates to months living with the virus.


  41. @Crusoe September 15, 2020 5:56 AM “What does this say, when in 2020 the large developed countries cannot protect their citizens and ensure their well being.”

    It says that many of the citizens in large developed countries are full of themselves and feel like that they don’t have to listen to anybody, certainly not to women leaders of small underdeveloped countries.

    I mean aren’t we Bajans who live at home not cursed daily by our BU Bajan sons and daughters, brothers and sisters who live abroad?

    Aren’t we told how savage, dishonest, and incompetent we are? Even Tron the pseudo-Bajan wants to deport 80,000 of us, because he believes that we are not good enough to live in the country that he came and found, the country that we have built with our sweat, our blood and our brains.

    Well listen to the Dr. Robert Redfield, the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control as he testified UNDER OATH before the U.S. Congress today, Redfield said..that “masks may be a more effective protection against corona virus than any potential vaccine”

    So the protection of the citizens of the large developed countries is really up to the citizens of the lage developed countries.

    They must all buy and consistently wear face masks which are available on amazon and at corner drug stores for less than $1 each. But “no” people prefer to wait for a multi billion dollar vaccine, because they are large and developed. Idiots. A virus does not care how large and developed you are.

    But it seems to me that hundreds of thousands of people in large developed countries prefer to listen to idiotic politicians even if it sickens them, or kills them, rather than to their own well educated public health officials.

    A piece of advice I gave to my children before I let them leave home. If you have a medical problem DO NOT take medical advice from Mr. or Ms. Eminent Lawyer. Take yourself to the doctor please. And when your toilet leaks do not call Mr. or Ms. Eminent Doctor. For God’s sake call the plumber.

    When there is a public health danger. DO NOT listen to politicians.

    Do listen to your public health officials.

    I mean, how hard is that to do?


  42. @Hal Austin September 15, 2020 4:14 AM “We are doing well, but WHY are we doing well?”

    We are doing well because we are wearing our home made masks which we made of scraps of fabric lying around in our linen cupboards. The cost”? A half yard of elastic for 25 BDS cents.

    Att the beginning of the pandemic i scoured my linen cupboard and found some left over cotton fabric which i had bought to line a few years agocurtains. I made masks for my household and for the households of my children and siblings. Simple. It required no great skill, virtually no money and hardly any time.

    But perhaps the great Hall wants a more complex answer than this truth?


  43. Actually no costs for the elastic. Many, many of us had pieces of that lying around in our needle work boxes.

    And I’ve noticed that since so many people are wearing masks, the masks are also preventing the spread of cold and flu germs. I haven’t heard a single person complain of cold or flu from March until now.

    The masks halt the “golf balls” and halts the spread of covid, colds, flu etc.

    People please invest a dollar or two in a few maske. Protect yourself, and protect those around you.


  44. A sibling worked in public health for about 40 years, TB patients, homeless people with TB, drug and alcohol addictions. TB is infectious and deadly. Sibling was never sick. Wore a mask on the job. Wore a mask on the job. Wore a mask on the job.

    An in-law worked at Sunnybrook all through SARS. Did not get sick. Hated wearing a mask. But wore a mask on the job all through that epidemic. Was elderly with co-morbidities but did not get sick. Over 80 now and still up and about and entirely self sufficient.

    Wear a mask people.

    While ya wait fah de multi-billion dollar vaccine.

  45. Critical Analyzer Avatar

    @Cuhdear Bajan
    You have the right first name ‘Cuhdear’. I hope and pray I am wrong but alot of us will be saying ‘Cuhdear if we did know’ in the years to come because we are cherry picking the evidence and experts to support whatever point we want to get across instead of seeking to understand and question the science.

    Masks only make sense if you are symptomatic, around symptomatic people or in an environment such as clinic or hospital where the chances of infection outweigh the damage wearing the mask is causing. There will be long term consequences to our overall health from the consistent reduced oxygen intake to our body from the re-breathed exhaled air from the constant wearing of masks over these extremely long periods of time.

    This virus is here to stay and our health authorities need to re-examine our mask wearing guidelines to strike the proper balance between protecting from possible COVID infection and our long term health since it seems they intend to continue this mandatory mask mandate for many months more.

  46. Critical Analyzer Avatar

    The COVID vaccine is an extremely risky thing and I pray we wait for the developed countries to be their own guinea pigs for once and don’t rush behind it when it comes out for the following reasons:
    1) Normal vaccine development and testing takes at least 3-5 years but they have rushed this one down in 6 months. To make matters worse, this is a new type of vaccine operating different from our usual vaccines and all previous attempts at this type of vaccine resulted in failure.
    2) The pharmaceutical companies that win the vaccine race stand to make such massive profits there is super incentive to bend and break whatever safety standards they can get away with in the rush to bring it to market and they have been caught doing this for drug products with much smaller profit projections.
    3) It appears the vaccine will not be 100% effective and will probably end up being similar to the flu vaccine with varying levels of effectiveness.


  47. @Critical Analyzer September 17, 2020 1:11 AM “Masks only make sense if you are symptomatic, around symptomatic people.”

    So suppose I am asymtomatic at 1:23 p.m.

    And symptomatic at 1:24 p.m.

    How will you know when I change fro one status to another. How will I know?

    Once I drove the family to visit a friend in town. The visit was for about 1 hour.

    By the end of the visit I was so woozy I could not drive myself the 3 or 4 miles home.

    No I did not consume drugs or alcohol..

    Flu.

    A bad bad flu. So bad that i wished that I could have died.


  48. Once the kid went to daycare in the morning, fine and dandy.

    By evening the kid was covered all over in fine measles like spots.

    I consulted one of the nursing sisters and did not drag the kid out into the night air.

    Next morning. What? The measles like spots are all gone.

    Still took the kid to the doctor, described what I had observed.

    Doctor’s diagnosis: Roseola, a viral illness that can cause deafness. Fortunately the kid survived without bad consequences.

    But if this was covid at EXACTLY what point would I or the caregivers have known of the change from asymtomatic to symptomattic?

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    @Cuhdear Bajan September 17, 2020 1:24 AM
    You answered your own question. You would put on the mask at 1:24pm when you realise you start to feel sick and take sensible measures get yourself home safely like you would normally have done before COVID.

    There is no 100% foolproof way to get rid of all the risk. It is all about understanding the risks and taking appropriate action without overreacting to reduce your chances. All the overreacting we are doing can end up being more harmful in other ways than the virus.

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