What Matters to You???

What, when, where, who, how
Submitted by Observing

So far for the year we have had a general election, back to school discussions and a few others in the thought space. Over the years from following BU and local print media it became obvious that certain topics generate an abundance of discussion, while others don’t.

Don’t get me wrong, to each his/her/their own, but, if we truly say we want to be a part of the discussion and debate, why is it that on matters of national importance (e.g. Food security or tertiary education) we get crickets…while on others like Rihanna’s belly or a Minister’s outside child or woman or man we have a spike in interest?

The ole Rum Shops were famous for men and women being willing to talk openly about anything even if they knew nothing about it. Distilled in those spirits and conversations were sparks of ideas and thoughts that could easily hold their own in any Parliament. But where has our national discourse gone?

We have a detached generation coming up, who, for the most part don’t care about civics, politics or politricks. They have enthusiasm and skills, but the environment doesn’t develop them.

Are we afraid to speak out? Are we being filtered? Is the media overly selective in what it covers or projects? Have we become apathetic and disengaged as has been suggested here?

Oh for the days of the figurative rum shop, where we could speak, argue, debate, learn, be wrong and strong and still return home as one family or community.

So, my question to the BU family is this. What matters most to you right now? What’s your opinion? What should we as a nation be discussing and debating? Let’s agree to disagree, let the comments flow and let’s rebuild the strength of conversation and communication on all things Bajan and Bajan developmental.

Hopefully those that have ears to hear will hear, and those that are worried about taking the lead will be empowered to hold the reins and ride. If they don’t…oh well. We can still drink Bush Tea, be Critical Analysers without being Johnnies until we have had Enuff of the Pedantic Dribbling and, whether our neighbours are Donnas, Walters, Williams, Angelas or Trons, we can put our Hants to the plough and enjoy a cold Miller beer afterwards while saying Cuhdear Bajans, leh we do better nuh.

Thank God (or the Creator) for this BU space.

Walk good ya hear!

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    See….nothing new, as William said, it has all been done before, or tried before, wood, jewelry,, the only thing different don’t think they tried the large scale tourism angle before, this one evolved from a project someone else has for Guyana including fisheries, oil exploration, this and that because those players have much more experience, and if they combine everything, it will be good for the Caribbean as a collective..

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  • William Skinner February 19, 2022 1:29 PM #: “Stop the nonsense! Please, The brain drain did not originate in Guyana. You need to go and do some research.”

    @ Mr. Skinner

    No, sir. YOU are the person who is “dead wrong.”

    Perhaps in your haste to dismiss David’s comments as nonsense and judge him harshly in the process, which seems to be a continuation of a normal ‘past time’ for certain contributors, you did not take the time to READ and UNDERSTAND what he actually ‘said.’ And, I believe it’s unfair to the guy, especially if one takes into consideration that you sometimes conveniently ignore uninformed comments from your favourite contributors or ‘side track’ nonsense they spew.

    David NEVER ‘said’ “the brain drain ORIGINATED in Guyana.

    What he said was, “Guyana is a country mired in racial and ethnic conflict,” which, I’m sure you will agree, is TRUE.
    I remember watching a documentary on Guyana in which Indian-Guyanese referred to African-Guyanese as ‘lazy dogs.’
    Racial and ethic tensions have contributed significantly to the fractured political state that country. The majority of Guyanese vote along ethnic lines

    His argument also is that the racial conflict severely impacted how Guyana managed and developed its resources.
    What happened to the country’s bauxite, gold, diamond lumber, rice and sugar industries, for example? During the 1970s, Guyana was known to be the one of the world’s leading suppliers of bauxite.

    Those factors, in addition to limited resources, weak infrastructure and other socio-economic problems, low salaries and lack of opportunities resulted in skilled and educated Guyanese migrating to other countries in search of better opp

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  • You are correct, reminiscent of a former minister floating a plan to collect $10.00 from every Bajan to refurbish the National Stadium. Another issue Observing we have not taken seriously, developing a youth program complete with adequate infrastructure.

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2017/04/08/national-stadium-stephen-lashley-10-dollars/amp/

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  • @William

    YOU need to stop the nonsense, the Guyanese left their country in droves, in fact it was a policy of the then Jagdeo government to encourage it. All of the Caribbean islands were flooded with Guyanese immigrants. Besides the immigration many many blogs were posted to BU which highlighted atrocities, escalating racial tensions etc. it was not a climate that encouraged investment or bilateral arrangements to support investment. The blogmaster will stop here because by your admission your mindset is grounded in the 60s, the blogmaster’s is of more recent vintage.

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  • @Artax

    If William and his supporting band of parrots had to visit Guyana in the 90s and 2000s to do business they would be of a different perspective.

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    Actually, i was in Guyana in the 90s..

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  • As usual, I am confused.
    When you say “you are correct” was that a response to AC?
    About time

    😃

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved February 19, 2022 2:28 PM #: “blah, blah, blah….BU already got diggers….i don’t stoop that low…why would i got scavenging for your comments…”

    BU….. such an amazing forum….. and predictable.

    A few days ago I made the following comments to another thread.

    “What amazes me is, there are certain contributors who, when it suits their particular purpose, often REFER to BU’s archives as source from which information to SUBSTANTIATE any comment they made on a particular issue, could be retrieved.”

    “Unfortunately, ‘on the other hand,’ using BU’s archives suddenly becomes a ‘heinous crime,’ when information is retrieved there from that PROVES those same individuals ACTUALLY made comments they SUBSEQUENTLY DENIED making.”

    ‘Lo and behold,’ yesterday, WARU posted the following comment.

    “That’s why i don’t get the people on BU….my case was no secret, and when i got REALLY PISSED OFF….was NOT SHY to SOUND OFF….on everyone i saw as trying to victimize me, so i have no clue what game these are playing now, pretending that no one knows EXACTLY WHAT IS WHAT, not those pretending they know and don’t;;;;…..the ARCHIVE is choc-a-bloc..”

    “Chock-a-Block” definition: 1. If a place is chock-a-block, it is very full of people or things: 2. The streets were chock-a-block (with cars).

    What the lady is essentially saying is, the archives is ‘chock-a-block’ with information. Hence, it CONVENIENTLY becomes IMPORTANT, when it suits her particular purpose.

    And now she has been referred there to, she does not “stoop that low.”

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  • Seems as if Guyana is pushing a plan by which it can increase and increase its economic prospects
    Barbados being the market by which to do so

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    It’s well known that the politicians/governments …like in Barbados and most other jurisdictions, are the major problem, with their INBRED ignorance backwardness and racist practices…..the ugliness in all of this is that those who keep those learned destructive, ANTISOCIAL behaviors alive in the country, like those they keep it alive for, are not even indigenous to the region….but it has poisoned the social environment in Guyana totally….don’t think that will ever see reversal…

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  • Wondering how many parrots are in AC band…
    Now recruiting.

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved February 19, 2022 2:54 PM #: “Actually, i was in Guyana in the 90s..”

    Hmmmm…

    Why didn’t that surprised me?

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  • Gotta go. I have stayed too long. When I start having fun, it is time to make an exit..

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    I write…therefore no need to go digging for other people’s comments, to parade around and then what….prove nothing….make myself look foolish…

    can get a whole article written in that timespan that are MY WORDS….no need to pimp for other people’s words,

    all i do is. post MY WRITINGS across continents and do something useful….am very economical with my time….hate wasting any of it….unless ya are a Pacha, and i can count those on one hand on BU……..ya words don’t interest me…

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  • My hero/heroine has arrived.

    Now in a quandary
    Should I leave or wait for her poetry
    Words of politics almost lyrical
    To the trained mind…. seeming musical
    Leave now and abandon the main course
    I spent my day listening to what is worse
    Strike up the band Angela
    Notes with melody of a harmonica
    Lift the level of the conversation
    I will get giddy at that elevation
    Strike up the band Angela
    Let BU see how you set the agenda

    Wow.. impressed myself

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  • Did I just paint a bullseye on AC back.
    Don’t be so serious.

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    ya words don’t interest me…not enuff for me to go digging for them anyway, i read what i want to read, most times, especially these days, i find myself scrolling..if i see something interesting, i ask permission to use it…

    As Theo and Bushman said, Angela is making more and more sense these days….kudos to her…

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  • My thinking of any agreement coming out of Guyana would be in my opinion based on oil placing a 10 year cap on price of purchases which Barbados would buy
    Then another agreement made after the 10 year agreement ends
    Anything else now being sold as good news does not impress me
    Especially now it looks as if Guyana has set the ground rules and Barbados govt has nod in agreement

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    Angela’s writing has improved significantly, she deserves her credits…..that is hard work to reach that level…impressive and constructive…

    “not surprise”, like you know something about me and why i was there…, too damn presumptous…

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  • Does Guyana refine oil?

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  • DavidFebruary 19, 2022 3:36 PM

    Does Guyana refine oil
    Xccx
    Have u ever heard the word influence
    Then look it up
    It goes a long way in solving problems and building relationships

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  • Cease and desist
    AC©®
    Please note the use of the copyright and trademark symbol. Use now require prior authorization.
    1) Submit your post to the blog master for my review and approval prior to use
    2) He will then forward your post to me
    3) I will give conditional or full approval within 2 business days. Conditional approval means you must edit your post and submit again.
    4) on approval, your post to BU must be identical to what was reviewed.

    Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Skinner, to the Blogmaster’s point : are you not overly romanticizing this Guyana story; can you truly compare the movement of folks out of that nation to Bim?…. You are much more read on regional history than that, sir. You absolutely know that the blogmaster’s analysis of the problems of racial strife during the Burnham and Jagan eras and then later with Jagdeo is definitely one he can “take […] outside of the corridors of BU”.

    We can disagree on the reasons for the strife and what was appropriate or not but to dispute the basic facts that it was significant and ripped asunder the nation once described as the ‘bread basket’ of the region would be intellectual negligence! We must accept that in Guyana, Jamaica and too in TnT there were massive political fractures around race and violent political tribalism … at levels never experienced in Bim . As the doc would say, that’s a fact that cant be denied.

    So I would respectfully disagree with you that 1) the talk of Guyana’s strife is a nonsense or that “Barbados has suffered just as much as Guyana or any other country in the region as a result of investing a third of our GDP in education only to see it head elsewhere.”

    On the matter of the actual brain drain … Why do we see that as a BAD thing. To be clichéd and simplistic: when one door closes that allows one to look to open another!

    For all practical purposes, ‘moving on up’ is not that big a deal for small communities as it should be expected and even encouraged as a means to expand the nation’s outreach and ‘influence’… Furthermore, I would offer that for every brain that was drained away there was some measurable benefit flowing back to the homeland in 90% or more of times.

    Surely, those who emigrated invariably a) provided income to their relatives (and local economy) which otherwise would never have been possible; b) created opportunities for others like themselves in their adopted homelands; and c) left roles in their homeland that others developed skills to fill.

    Bim and all our regional neighbors have benefitted tremendously from the emigration of intelligent sons and daughters … The educational $$ investment has proved its value times over; could other educational avenues have been better explored? Absolutely … yet, that does NOT disparage or detract from the benefits accrued to date!

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  • @ David,
    OFF MESSAGE
    Yesterday in the UK we experienced a momentous storm. Here is an extraordinary live stream from yesterday at Heathrow Airport. One of the busiest airport in the world.

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  • @Dee Word

    And you are sufficiently well read to know the reference to brain drain is pejorative.

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  • On the matter of the actual brain drain … Why do we see that as a BAD thing.

    WELL IT IS BAD WHEN THOSE WHO HAVE MADE A STELLAR CONTRIBUTION IN THE PASS, OR WERE ABLE TO DO SO IN THE PRESENT OR FUTURE, ARE REMOVED FROM THE FRAY LOCALLY. MANY NAMES COME TO MIND, IN MY FIELD ALONE

    IT IS VERY GOOD FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT THAT STELLAR, AND WHO AS HEWERS OF WOOD AND DRAWERS OF WATER COULD REMIT MONEY BACK HOME, AS MANY DO.

    WHAT IS REQUIRED IS BOTH.

    WHEN COVID STRUCK, THERE WAS NOT ONE DR IN BARBADOS TO TRY TO MAKE A STAND TO MIA. AS THE YOUNG DR DID IN 1985 WHEN BAMP AND TOM WAS AT WAR. LOOK AT THE RESULT OF THE STAND TAKEN THEN, HELPED OF COURSE LARGELY BY TOM’S DEATH.

    SKINNER HAS SAID A LOT OF THINGS OF MUCH MERIT, BECAUSE HE HAS THE GUTS TO STAND ALONE IF REQUIRED. MOST WHO COME HERE ARE APPRIMATORS OF LABIAE ORAE TO ADIPOSE TISSUE OVERLAYING SOME ONE’S GLUTEI.
    – A WELL ESTABLISHED BAJAN PASSTIME, WHICH I HAVE NEVER EMBRACED

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  • Keith Hudson, Horace Andy & Earl Flute

    poor people

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  • HOW DOES A BARBADOS SCHOLAR BECOME A PARROT BECAUSE HE AGRRES WITH SKINNER ABOUT ANYTHING, WHEN SKINNER MAKES A LOT OF SENSE ABOUT MOST THINGS
    SKINNER STANDS OUT HIGH ABOVE THE MORONS THAT POST HERE ON A DAILY BASIS ALTHOUGH HE MAY NOT BE PART OF THE CLIQUES?

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  • Not as upbeat about the brain drain as some are. One of the reason for the US dominance is that it has attracted the best brains from a wide variety of nations.

    China emergence is also based on the fact that many Chinese after schooling in the US return to their homeland.

    A small island like ours cannot always export it brains and wait for remittances. Having the best brains fill vacancies should be the national policy. We need to figure out how to keep and reward some of our talented folks. Nepotism, cronyism and favoritism is not the answer to the brain drain.

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  • Nepotism, cronyism and favoritism is not the answer to Bu although the “brain drain” would explain the mind numbing sub par level of comments and the throw a shade crew have bad brains too.

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  • @ DPD
    I know what I replied to. I simply stated that the term “ brain drain” did not originate in Guyana That is pure hog wash!
    I then went on to say that the brain drain affected all the Caribbean islands in much the same way.
    You are now talking about a whole lot of issues that did not occur in the blogmaster’s post to which I referred.
    I dont know how speaking the truth is romanticizing anything.
    I would politely suggest that you read the exact post by the blogmaster to which I responded.
    And I am standing by my position that when all the factors are considered all the islands suffered in the same way.
    The Blogmaster wrote nonsense and I called him on it .
    You know full well that the term brain drain did not originate in Guyana.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, that’s true re the pejorative nature of the term ‘brain drain’ …I simply went with the term as used … but the point still stands: movement of intelligent and ambitious folks from small communities is a natural occurrence. There are many upsides … we need not focus on the negatives.

    And @Doc: of course @Skinner speaks his truth unapologetically … as many others do.

    I am always amused at this ‘clique’ commentary as I am yet to see that manifested here with any impact.
    Groups do appear to agree seemingly en masse on certain subjects and surprisingly you sir fall squarely into one of those groups on matters of ‘right wing political narratives’…. just as I may be linked to those who agree on matters of certain left-leaning narratives.

    Beyond those generalities, I have disagreed herein with the Blogmaster (often) and several others and have seen similiar moments of disagreement between others who may have otherwise agreed; so frankly really not sure where or when the cliques meet here online and affix their virtual oral labiae to that central tissue ‘hole-ing’ out between the glutes!

    I gone.

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  • @Dee Word

    Migration of labour is not unique to Barbados, Guyana or any other country but a balance must be maintained. This balance is linked to the way a country manages its affairs economic and otherwise.

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  • @ David, @ DpD @ Artax
    David said: “ Guyana is a country mired in racial and ethnic conflict. This has severely impacted how Guyana developed its resources in recent history. In fact it was responsible for aggressive emigration known as ‘brain drain’. We love to romanticize some issues.“

    I have reread the post as bd apologies are sincerely offered. I interpreted it much too literally. I actually wax positing that @ David had said the term “ brain drain” originated in Guyana.
    Sincere apologies to @ David@ DpD and Artax.
    Peace.

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  • Typos : as bd =‘and apologies
    Typo: wax = was

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    William…looks like ya will get that new constitution in at least 18 months or so, they are getting helping drafting it…

    “One of the reason for the US dominance is that it has attracted the best brains from a wide variety of nations.”

    people tend to go where opportunity knocks, if the Caribbean would CREATE OPPORTUNITIES…they will also get those attracted to what is there to offer in a reverse brain drain, but if you consisitently for 6 DECADES offer your people nothing but poverty, misery, racism, oppression, low wages, a slavery environment and discrimination as a steady diet….they WILL LEAVE….

    “Does Guyana refine oil”

    i believe from what i read last year, they are also being offered expertise in this..

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    getting help.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Thank you brother @Skinner, you had me kerfuffled, perplexed and discombobulated all in one when you asked about “@David had said the term “ brain drain” originated in Guyana”😎…. Why would we seriously debate where the term ‘originated’ .. so I never considered that… rather I explored the issues, reasons and impact of that ‘brain drain’.

    I believe that the actual debate itself is still badly premised because it’s IMPOSSIBLE `to restrict the movement and development of ambitious, bright folks within the confines of this 166 Sq miles jurisdiction… IMPOSSIBLE, IMPRACTICAL AND UNREALISTIC…. Let me use the remarks from @Mr. TheoGazerts to try to illustrate this as briefly as possible. He said: “A small island like ours cannot always export it brains and wait for remittances. Having the best brains […] should be the national policy.”

    First up, no one is ‘waiting for remittances’. That’s a fact of life that just as our kin remitted during work on the Canal it’s a NATURAL part of life…So let’s move that to the side.

    Currently, we have ONE university college and realistically have the capacity (funding etc) for just that one; possibly two if we really stretch. WHERE would we have placed many of the top academics coming out of our schools over the years? .. Similar questions can be posed re our bright doctors, engineers, technical experts, business entrepreneurs and so on. To be specific… After an Errol Barrow leaves Cawmere and then HC to become the ‘best that he could be’ and finally be the boss man to which all roads led … what space at top was there for suitably ambitious and bright colleagues ! Or on the other hand, were we worst served that the tenure of Sir George Alleyne former PAHO head and UWI Chancellor was not completed entirely in Bim??

    No need to be prolix … my point is simply that as much as we ABSOLUTELY will try to keep and reward our best and brightest we would have been PRACTICALLY limited in doing that.

    So let’s be realistic in our assessments of ‘brain drain’. There WILL BE circumstances likes those of @Doc GP where interpersonal conflicts cause emigration … that’s life! There will be circumstances where 2 or 3 students gets all A’s at Advanced Level in same year and graduate with high honours years later …. and consider if they were the second or third cohort in five years or so showing that exceptional talent … pray tell where will we place them all as they mature and spread their talents and ambitions to lead????

    Exporting talents is also a marketable and practical ploy … for a small nation that should be sought-after as a competitive niche advantage. Now, of course, as the world moves more steadfastly into wireless work across boundaries we can now likely ’employ’ more of that talent on island.

    We are not the US or China so we need to continue to seek OUR competitive advantages and NOT focus on theirs!

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  • @ WURA
    The constitution issue is an embarrassment. A rush for reasons still unknown. It’s impossible to understand some of the reasons: how and why some things are done .

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    TLSN…great show, i actually waited to see if the Qatar A380 airline made it in on the 3rd try, the pilot nailed it, what a landing….that plane is humongous..

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved

    William……but you see who they are looking to for help….says a lot that they cannot draft a constitution themselves and the place is infested with lawyers who love nothing more than to boast about how great they are……..and numerous republic templates everywhere, even in the region, to choose from….they are so not impressive…..don’t know why they bother to pretend to be leaders…..just give it up and let others get a shot at genuinely maintaining and managing the island better…

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  • @African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved February 19, 2022 7:31 PM
    “don’t know why they bother to pretend to be leaders…just give it up and let others get a shot at genuinely maintaining and managing the island better…”

    But there was a wide open election on January 19th. Plenty of time for “others [to] get a shot at genuinely maintaining and managing the island better.”

    And yet YOUR others did not step forward.

    Can you please explain why?

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  • @David
    ” Another issue Observing we have not taken seriously, developing a youth program complete with adequate infrastructure.”

    After 2-3 youth policies I guess they realise that it doesn’t take much to “get votes!”

    @Williams
    “The constitution issue is an embarrassment”
    True, and one that Madame Justice will dismiss out of hand if all goes according to plan.

    Loving the ideas and discussion here though… Almost makes good material for a BU Manifesto. The Guyana economic boom and ensuing national development (or not) will be interesting to watch

    Just observing

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  • @ DPD
    All I ever owned is my intellect therefore respect is due. I take this forum very seriously. Thanks for accepting my apology.
    I think the positions taken by you and @ Theo, re: the brain drain must be the best reasons for dumping the overseas / us /them , commentary.
    Sometimes, we lose sight of some truths , when we establish imagined boundaries in relation to ourselves.
    One of the greatest myths perpetuated here on BU , is that those who leave become less Barbadian. Far from , we often marvel and are proud to explain how great the rock is and the resilience of the people; attributes that some who never leave Bim , either don’t know or have not experienced .
    The brain drain is actually testimony that we were so well prepared , that we could make it anywhere.
    I once , in a presentation , to some American undergrads , told them , that the “brightest” and richest are academically judged by their ability to get into the top public schools.
    I was asked if I were a graduate of the more prestigious grammar school. I told them I could not pass the exam so I went to a private school that was considered inferior to the public schools.
    They were stunned !
    We have to deal with our uniqueness better. Some of us may be shocked to learn that the great grandchild of a Barbadian, born “ overseas “ , who has never been to Barbados knows more about our culture than a child born and living on the rock.
    Never underestimate our African oral tradition of story telling.
    Peace and once more , thank you for your gracious acceptance of my apology,

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  • @African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved February 18, 2022 3:00 PM
    “…diplomats are involved in BIG SCANDAL and got recalled…”

    Actually NO GOVERNMENT ANYWHERE should recall a diplomat who is involved in a “big scandal” Instead the government should revoke the diplomatic immunity of the diplomat…and let the former diplomat take his or her lashes in the jurisdiction in which he or she was serving, or maybe I should say self serving.

    Governments should not use the Vienna Convention to shield bad behavior.

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  • What are the grounds for the revocation of diplomatic immunity?

    It is possible for the official’s HOME COUNTRY to WAIVE IMMUNITY; this tends to happen only when the individual has committed A SERIOUS CRIME UNCONNECTED WITH THEIR DIPLOMATIC ROLE (as opposed to, for example, allegations of spying), or has witnessed such a crime.

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  • 329.5 million Vs 287,371

    US has best and worst branes
    BD has a much smaller pool

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  • That is fine William, they blogmaster is aware of your passion as a regionalist.

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  • @ David
    Thanks for accepting my apology. Your reasoning was correct.
    Let’s hope that we can finally get some movement with Guyana. Mottley is doing the right thing.

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  • You are gracious William.

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  • @TheOGazerts February 19, 2022 4:35 PM “A small island like ours cannot always export it brains and wait for remittances. Having the best brains fill vacancies should be the national policy. We need to figure out how to keep and reward some of our talented folks. Nepotism, cronyism and favoritism is not the answer to the brain drain.”

    So true.

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  • re here WILL BE circumstances likes those of @Doc GP where interpersonal conflicts cause emigration
    PLEASE KINDLY I LEFT BARBADOS BECAUSE I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT I REALLY WENT TO MEDICAL SCHOOL TO DO—THAT IS TO TEACH MEDICAL STUDENTS NOT BECAUSE OF ANY INTERPERSONAL CONFLICT

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  • “Why didn’t that surprised me?”

    Hahaaaa, me neither!

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Noted @Doc GP … so noted!

    Based, however, on your various previous posts I would have to suspect those of your inferior superiors would embrace the conflict concept. … Although u left for valid other reasons.

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  • @ Cuhdear Bajan
    Thank you. From the time I was a little boy, I was taught that you can’t be wrong and strong.
    I was wrong.
    I Appreciate your compliment.

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  • “not surprise”, like you know something about me and why i was there…”

    “find myself scrolling..if i see something interesting, i ask permission to use it…”

    It’s a good thing you “find yourself SCROLLING,” but still RESPOND to EVERYTHING.

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  • Mr. Skinner

    Apology accepted.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think you ‘said’ you attended the Modern High School.

    Although Modern was a private school, based on its history and that of Louis Lynch, I’m surprised you ‘said’ it “was considered inferior to the public schools.”

    I understand MHS produced some very outstanding students who were proud to have attended there.

    I find Barbadians seem not too keen on preserving our history. I can’t remember ever reading a comprehensive historical review of private schools in Barbados, public transportation and the private concessionaires or even the manufacturing industry.

    I was reading the St. Michael Vestry hearings before then Chief Justice Sir Allan Collymore relative to a review of taxes ‘laid on’ the National, Progressive and Yonkers Bus Companies in August 1952.
    The Advocate’s reporter gave such a detailed description of the proceedings, I felt I was actually present in the Court room. The reporting in those days, especially on murder trials, was much better than what I read these days.

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  • @ Artax
    Thanks very much for accepting my apology. I know you and I occasionally, go in the ring but I have never sensed that you are not a genuine person. Thanks once again.
    Yes, I did attend the MHS and Louis Lynch, was almost impossible to describe. He was a genius of a leader and all Modernites wherever, we are consider him a legend.
    The MHS, was not only a school but a very exciting and engaging social experiment that succeeded in a multiplicity of ways,
    Can you imagine , a boy from town, having a boy from St.George , as a great friend. Can you imagine. , the boy from St. George, leaving all his books home , I imagine , and bringing his school bag , loaded with the best sugar cane from
    St.George for the town boy. I was the “ town” boy. The friendship endures to this day. That encapsulates what the MHS was to us.
    But I had to digress. I meant to show the students that our system of education was very progressive for those times. The modern was an educational institution par excellence but I did not pass part 2, ; in other words, while I attended a private school ,it was not on par with what we consider the public star grammar schools , such as Harrison College Combermere etc.
    I wanted to get over to those students that whereas in America, private schools were considerably better than public schools, it was not so in Bim.
    I must confess that I spent my last year at St. Anthony’s High it’s Headmaster, Mr,Kenneth Gall, had a profound effect on me in that short period. He was also an exceptional and legendary educator. To have been exposed to Louis and then Gall ,is really platinum standard.
    I agree with you 100% , that what we are really not true guardians of our fate.
    We have gone from Little England to Little Brooklyn. The country is in the Vice grip of a pervasive cultural penetration that is tearing down the Barbados, that we once knew.
    This destruction permeates all levels and classes . Our institutions and governance,have been rapidly deteriorating for the last forty years but the last twenty five have been nothing more than social and economic terrorism.
    We ignore it at our own peril.
    Louis Lynch really instilled in us: you didn’t have to pass part 2 to rival and surpass those who did.
    It’s all about leadership , and to be brutally Frank with you, the current fiasco about giving the DLP, unearned Senate seats, represents a serious decline in governance.
    We need leaders; we need hundreds of Louis Lynches and Kenneth Galls.
    The best way to know if a fish is bad is to smell its head.
    I hope the combination of the new Senior Education Officer and the new Minister of Education, continues to demonstrate the leadership, we were exposed to during the last week.
    They represent hope and they seem
    very capable; I hope politics doesn’t get in the way
    I agree with your post totally. We are slipping , but we refuse to admit it.It’s the old Denial Syndrome.
    Once again , thanks for accepting my apology; it means a lot to me.
    ✌🏿

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  • Critical Barbados, Guyana alliance
    The Prime Minister’s visit to Guyana was an important event in the grand scheme of developments in the region.
    We hope it will bear fruit in more ways than one. Guyana has become a major player in the international energy arena. Its large finds of deposits of fossil fuel ingredient have brightened its prospects for accelerated economic growth in the very near future.
    Barbados has not yet reached that exalted status but the prospects are promising that some future finds, properly explored, may be of direct benefit to the people of our nation.
    Hence it is important that, apart from Guyana being a CARICOM partner, the interests and experience of that country as an oil producer exploring these finds may be of benefit to us as we similarly assess the data available to us, suggests that it is economically feasible to drill in the appropriate blocks already identified.
    But this conference was much more than just discussing the fossil fuel scenarios. The important issue of climate change must now be on the agenda of any energy conference. So this country as a small island developing state has a clear and present interest whenever these matters are discussed at international conferences.
    Economic and practical reality dictates there can be no surgically drastic change in which we drop all aspects of fossil fuel use overnight and adopt renewable energy use at the following daybreak.
    Rather, the change which is under way must be gradual. Hence we have a foot in either camp. We are obviously a consumer of fossil fuels, and as such concerned about global warming. But we are a world leader in the use of renewal energy to heat water This prior position in solar panels must be protected as a national achievement and marketed to global audiences.
    We are also acutely interested in the photovoltaic panels, which we have been using to generate renewable electrical energy and we therefore have to be present at the table when, as in Guyana, the policy is either being shaped or modified.
    These broad parameters of our energy interests on both sides of the debating table, so to speak, demand our highprofile presence at these meetings Yet there are other immediately regional and national reasons why the Guyana visit is so important to us.
    Barbados and Guyana have a long history of family linkages. The sugar cane industry has contributed in a major way to exchanges of skilled pan boilers between our two countries. Strong family connections between families in either country now exist.
    These historical connections may have conduced to useful discussions on the issue of food security, resulting in the joint interests of Barbados with its relatively small land space contributing to food security by growing food in land-plentiful Guyana.
    We hope that the linkages between Guyana and our country and also with Suriname speak volumes for our tripartite cooperation, which can deliver benefits to the people of the three partner nations.
    Rapid global developments taking place at all levels compel small countries to seek such alliances, which may benefit all partners.
    In keeping with the motto that we should be friends of all and satellites of none, we support our leaders seeking to give real economic meaning to those friendships from which our people and country, and our friends and their people, can similarly derive economic benefit.

    Source: Nation Editorial

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  • @ Artax:

    “The Advocate’s reporter gave such a detailed description of the proceedings, I felt I was actually present in the Court room. The reporting in those days, especially on murder trials, was much better than what I read these days.”

    It’s the same with those who cover cricket theses days-piss poor. They cannot transport us anywhere.
    I think a lot of people in journalism
    and broadcasting in particular , do not read widely.
    I admire the time and care you take with your submissions, far superior to mine.
    Perhaps it’s the decline in primary school education or the lack of interest in institutions such as the public library. Somehow, we have to find the correct blend of technology, culture and education, Cricket should be a subject on our primary school curricula and calypso should also be there.
    Ed have plenty work to do …..plenty work,

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  • Should be we hit plenty work to do not Ed

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  • William the lack of quality of education and the need for reform has been your concern for years, why are you surprised at the systems? You are familiar with the term GIGO?

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  • @ David
    Yes. I am familiar. I am now putting the finishing touches on my recommendations . I will share them with the BU family later today.
    I had to revisit the recommendations I made to the Task Force On Employment back in 1987.
    I was pleasantly surprised by the new MOE, handling of getting the children back into school.
    Usually impeccable sources told me that her approach is completely different from her failed predecessor.
    We cannot allow this opportunity to be heard on the reform of education
    to pass.
    This is a matter that should involve ALL citizens.
    What is the possibility of putting together a Zoom brainstorming session for the BU family? I am very serious.

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    “What is the possibility of putting together a Zoom brainstorming session for the BU family? I am very serious.”

    brilliant idea…that’s the route taken by most platforms these days, those who don’t already have a video link set up for group chats….

    saw a barbadostoday piece on the Saudis being allowed to move in because the limited in intellect cannot see other options…wrote a piece on that immediately for other platforms….gotta get with the new program of disseminating ideas and opinions..

    “The MHS, was not only a school but a very exciting and engaging social experiment that succeeded in a multiplicity of ways,”

    had some neighbors attend, school produced some sound minds, given the conditions back in the 60s and 70s

    “To have been exposed to Louis and then Gall ,is really platinum standard.”

    Kenneth Gall, a giant of a man, educated briefly two of my sons..

    ya just morphed into little saudi arabia….lol…they just cannot find where they belong, because they do not want to belong to their original origins and sinking into everyone else’s, that alone should be an eye opener for Afrikan descents, who should know what they have to do to ESCAPE these evil traps set by minority demons…….am through spoonfeeding people.

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  • @ WURA
    I used to assist with teaching the very young ones from time to time.Maybe your two children passed my way.
    Great to know somebody on here who knew the “K” . Made my day ,actually ;he was just brilliant.
    Thanks for sharing that info.

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    William…don’t blink, ya don’t want to miss anything.

    “and let the former diplomat take his or her lashes in the jurisdiction in which he or she was serving, or maybe I should say self serving.”

    not sure about the real circumstances yet and why the recall happened..ya know they are going to cover up…ya know they are going TO LIE, and US usually observes those protocols..

    “Hahaaaa, me neither!”

    oh, me neither….ya rejoined the “simples” again….wannabe heavy weight….coming back down to earth…trust you to join the idiot who wants to tell me when i should scroll and when i should read, and knows without knowing why i was in Guyana……idiots of feather…

    “But there was a wide open election on January 19th. Plenty of time for “others [to] get a shot at genuinely maintaining and managing the island better.”

    And yet YOUR others did not step forward.

    Can you please explain why?”

    and yall still perpetrating that delusion even with evidence of a BUY ELECTION….sensible people don’t do KNOWN buy elections…….what’s the point, look at where everything is right now and tell me again how well it went….it’s best to let them show up themselves, no hurry, they will all die off and the young will take over…the next generation is ALWAYS THERE..they will know from viewing these jokers…what NOT TO DO..

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    “Great to know somebody on here who knew the “K” . Made my day ,actually ;he was just brilliant.”

    that would have been in the 90s, he had a nephew who taught also, prior to St. Anthony’s closing, another brilliant mind..

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    brilliant idea…that’s the route taken by most platforms these days, those who don’t already have a video link set up for group chats….

    and no, i won’t get involved, am already on several…..plus, it’s better for me to hold quiet counsel going forward where BU is concerned..

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    William…don’t blink, ya don’t want to miss anything.

    don’t know if you remember some weeks ago, not even 4, a comment i made about some people looking out of place on the island….those are who i saw….they got too close, out of curiosity….and i picked up on them right away….

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  • Somebody calls interpretation of another response to a comment as ” nonsense”
    Then in review the comment was found to be incorrect
    Out of respect an apology is made on behalf of correction noted
    However one should.expect a similar response of an apology out of the person who made a derogatory statement one which branded the respondent comment as nonsense
    Foot note
    Sometimes individuals are too quick to hand over power to individual whose intent is that which serves self purpose (yes apologies can invoked power of transfer )
    Gladly i say with all due respect be careful how one use their resources of knowledge be it apology or otherwise to uplift others
    All well and good to wear the right fitting shoe but be careful who u regulate who should help u wear those shoes
    Been on BU long enough to see how insults are dished out without an even a word of sorry some by David included
    I know we all are different
    However we all should not be treated as fools and be expected to be gracious to fit in with any one expectations
    Self respect for self should not be seen as a grab bag of gaining the respect of others
    Oops the above was created by a thought of mindfulness for self

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  • angela cox February 20, 2022 8:10 AM

    Somebody calls interpretation of another response to a comment as ” nonsense”
    Then in review the comment was found to be incorrect
    Out of respect an apology is made on behalf of correction noted
    However one should.expect a similar response of an apology out of the person who made a derogatory statement one which branded the respondent comment as nonsense
    Foot note
    Sometimes individuals are too quick to hand over power to individual whose intent is that which serves self purpose (yes apologies can invoked power of transfer )
    Gladly i say with all due respect be careful how one use their resources of knowledge be it apology or otherwise to uplift others
    All well and good to wear the right fitting shoe but be careful who u regulate who should help u wear those shoes
    Been on BU long enough to see how insults are dished out without an even a word of sorry some by David included
    I know we all are different
    However we all should not be treated as fools and be expected to be gracious to fit in with any one expectations
    Self respect for self should not be seen as a grab bag of gaining the respect of others
    Oops the above was created by a thought of mindfulness for self

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++

    What the F**K???????

    angela cox, I read your comment bout 15 times and still can’t understand what it is you trying to say. I had to ask myself the same question your partner used to ask David BU, that if English language is still taught in our schools.

    And somebody say that your writing improving or duh like duh got more than one angela cox?

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  • @Frank “…that if English language is still taught in our schools.”

    English is still taught. Angela evidently didn’t get it. but it may be a learning disability so we should not be too hard on her. it is likely not her fault, nor the fault of her teachers.

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    William…hope these appreciate your EXCELLENT idea…

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  • @William Skinner February 20, 2022 4:34 AM
    2 of my my sisters and 1 brother, born between 1936 and 1947 attended the Modern High School. None of them wrote the dreaded 11+ because it was not yet in Barbados between 1946 and 1958. They all spoke highly of Louis Lynch. If I am not wrong Mr. Gall may have taught at the Modern at some point in his career. All of the siblings are/were very smart people who EARNED opportunities her and in 3 other countries. Did well. All raised smart successful children. My parents never had to go to the MHS to correct misbehavior. Louis Lynch dealt effectively with any misbehavior. Never had to go to a police station either nor a lawyer. My siblings have never had to go to a police station either, never had to hire a lawyer to defend bad behavior in their kids. My parents were old time country people who believed in the virtues of education and of hard work. These values were passed on to their children, grandchildren and great grandchildren.

    This may be apocryphal but long ago a little Modern country girl dared to buy a golden apple “in town”. When her parents discovered this they made her empty her school bag and the next day to take it to school full of golden apples. The family maybe owned half a dozen golden trees. What may have been a bit uncomfortable for her was a delightful day for the MHS kids. And a lesson in agricultural economics for everybody.

    Nowadays it seems our children snack mostly on imported junk from little foil sacks. I wonder what they are learning from this?

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    ya don’t want to learn Swahili…start learning arabic…..lol

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    Correction:

    the right name is Kiswahili..

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  • dpd
    re Based, however, on your various previous posts I would have to suspect those of your inferior superiors would embrace the conflict concept. … Although u left for valid other reasons.
    I HOEVER , NEVER ENTERED INTO THE CONFLICT ITH MORONS SIR, I JUST LOOKED OVER MY GLASSES, SMILED AND MOCKED THEM

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  • What the F**K???????

    angela cox, I read your comment bout 15 times and still can’t understand what it is you trying to say. I had to ask myself the same question your partner used to ask David BU, that if English language is still taught in our schools.

    And somebody say that your writing improving or duh like duh got more than one angela cox
    Xxxccc
    Fool.
    It was written in coded language for idumpy minds like yours not to understand
    What I do understand however is that many bajans once closing a text book havnt got the ability to think for themselves but leaves open doors for people to tell them how to act and behave
    Hence apologies of all sort can be handed out even to those who shows no respect towards them
    Who was it that said that bajans learned by rot
    Frankly speaking Frank I don’t give a dam if u can read with understanding or not
    The message was not intended to u

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  • @William Skinner February 20, 2022 5:23 AM “the lack of interest in institutions such as the public library.”

    So when are we going to get a new modern public library? I know for certain that plans for a new library were completed long ago. I believe before the beginning of what is now called “the lost decade” I have seen the plans myself. It would be a great, great shame if Bridgetown does not get a spanking brand new public library before 2027. With a superb Barbados/Caribbean collection, with all modern technology, with a wonderful children’s floor [not some lil squeeze up corner]

    I would respectfully suggest that the building on Coleridge Street be retained for meetings, evening concerts, exhibitions, writer’s workshops, etc. and that a new multi-storey building be thrown up over the old building, and that the buildings and parking spaces formerly occupied by the courts be given to the library.

    Libraries are not yet unfashionable. People still need to read, to be exposed to more reading than the average person can afford to buy from online book sellers. Human beings will still be reading thousands of years from now.

    And being self serving now: I can ask Little Johnnie to work on a new design. For a nice fee of course.

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    “Frankly speaking Frank I don’t give a dam if u can read with understanding or not
    The message was not intended to u”✔

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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  • angela cox February 20, 2022 9:54 AM

    What the F**K???????

    angela cox, I read your comment bout 15 times and still can’t understand what it is you trying to say. I had to ask myself the same question your partner used to ask David BU, that if English language is still taught in our schools.

    And somebody say that your writing improving or duh like duh got more than one angela cox
    Xxxccc
    Fool.
    It was written in coded language for idumpy minds like yours not to understand
    What I do understand however is that many bajans once closing a text book havnt got the ability to think for themselves but leaves open doors for people to tell them how to act and behave
    Hence apologies of all sort can be handed out even to those who shows no respect towards them
    Who was it that said that bajans learned by rot
    Frankly speaking Frank I don’t give a dam if u can read with understanding or not
    The message was not intended to u

    +++++++++++++

    What the hell is idumpy?

    Yuh could see um is you that learned by ROT fuh trute. Wuhloss, what a ting.

    You talking bout apologies but still called me, fool, and like to call people ass and jackass.

    You should be woman enough to say what you have to say and tell people what you have to tell them, instead of talking a whole bunch uh shyte that I doubt you even understand what yuh say.

    If yuh talking bout Skinner, he admit he made a mistake and apologized. What wrong with that?

    Who disrespected him?

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  • What the hell is idumpy?

    Yuh could see um is you that learned by ROT fuh trute. Wuhloss, what a ting.

    You talking bout apologies but still called me, fool, and like to call people ass and jackass.

    You should be woman enough to say what you have to say and tell people what you have to tell them, instead of talking a whole bunch uh shyte that I doubt you even understand what yuh say.

    If yuh talking bout Skinner, he admit he made a mistake and apologized. What wrong with that?

    Who disrespected him
    Xxxxx
    Frankly get it through your thick skull
    I don’t give a dam what u think
    Respect is earned and goes both ways
    Not dished out like candy
    Go away fool.i have no respect for you
    No apologies given

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  • African Online Publishing Copyright ⓒ 2022. All Rights Reserved February 20, 2022 10:19 AM

    Man, um is a good thing you ain’t got time to waste, but still got time to be at every cock fight on BU.

    Out of 100 posts, 65 does be yours, yet yuh ain’t got nuh time to waste on BU.

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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  • angela cox, you ain’t even got no respect for YOURSELF, so um is obvious you ain’t going to respect other people.

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    lack of understanding is a hell of a thing….some people need a whip to understand fully, and even then…….it may never happen….lol

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  • Out of 100 posts, 65 does be yours, yet yuh ain’t got nuh time to waste on BU.

    🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    Laugh at yourself….everyone understood what i meant. everyone EXCEPT YOU.,,,you should ASK SOMEONE WHO DOES…….keep laughing, love when ya make yaselves look foolish, because of lack of understanding….and it blows back on ya…

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    Not one intelligent blogger would tell ya shit…let that be your SWANSONG…lol

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  • lack of understanding is a hell of a thing….some people need a whip to understand fully, and even then…….it may never happen….lol

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  • FrankFebruary 20, 2022 10:44 AM

    angela cox, you ain’t even got no respect for YOURSELF, so um is obvious you ain’t going to respect other people.
    Xxxxxx
    My time is not allocated to fools like u
    Go find someone of your limited intelligence to brow beat

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  • @William

    She is a serious lady, no BS kind of person in the mold of her minister.

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  • @Simple Simon

    Is this Mr. Gall who headed St. Anthony’s?

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  • angela cox February 20, 2022 8:10 AM

    Somebody calls interpretation of another response to a comment as ” nonsense”
    Then in review the comment was found to be incorrect
    Out of respect an apology is made on behalf of correction noted
    However one should.expect a similar response of an apology out of the person who made a derogatory statement one which branded the respondent comment as nonsense
    Foot note
    Sometimes individuals are too quick to hand over power to individual whose intent is that which serves self purpose (yes apologies can invoked power of transfer )
    Gladly i say with all due respect be careful how one use their resources of knowledge be it apology or otherwise to uplift others
    All well and good to wear the right fitting shoe but be careful who u regulate who should help u wear those shoes
    Been on BU long enough to see how insults are dished out without an even a word of sorry some by David included
    I know we all are different
    However we all should not be treated as fools and be expected to be gracious to fit in with any one expectations
    Self respect for self should not be seen as a grab bag of gaining the respect of others
    Oops the above was created by a thought of mindfulness for self

    😄 🤣

    Somebody like you who could post crap that show us you don’t even understand the English language or write it properly, could tell me my intelligence limited?

    Man, you ain’t only got no self respect, you ain’t got no shame too.

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