Adrian Loveridge Column – Cruising Opportunity

For readers who are unfamiliar with the name Saga Holidays, it is a British based tour operator with nearly seven decades of experience, specializing in offering over 50 year-old customers or travellers holidays and cruises worldwide. On 21st January the company announced that all clients must be fully vaccinated against Covid-19 at least 14 days before departure on all holidays, tours and cruises, which entails having both a first and secondary jab. The decision was made after conducting a customer poll in which a reported ’95 per cent of regular Saga customers would support such a policy change’.

At first, many may consider this decision quite radical. In reality when they resume both long haul holidays and cruises in May, it is expected that the vast majority of Brits in this age group will have been inoculated against coronavirus anyway. Under the British Government’s plan, 15 million people designated as the fourth highest priority risk vaccination group, including all those in the UK over the age of 70 will have received at least their first shot by the middle of February.

Interestingly, Saga stated that their cruise crew would not need to be vaccinated before working on board and ‘that other protocols would be in place to protect staff until they’re able to receive inoculation’.

Saga Holiday offerings currently features Barbados as one of the three island destinations in their 14 night fly-holiday ‘Jewels of the Caribbean’ programme, which includes a 4 night stay at the Sugar Cane Club with a starting cost of GB Pounds 3,499 per person.

Purely, from a cruise perspective, while some will consider the return of these giant floating self-contained ‘hotels’ another threat to our land based tourism product, could our tourism planners and policymakers use this innovative Saga initiative and vaccination requirement to lure more ships back to our shores this winter? One thing for sure, we will need all the help we can get to restore both volume and connectivity of airlift to anything like previous levels. Home porting of at least one Saga ship would greatly assist that.

Their existing two ocean going ships may already be committed to 2021/22 itineraries, but in these challenging days with widespread scrapping or sale of relatively ‘new’ ships, just maybe there is an opportunity to launch a third vessel dedicated solely to ply the Caribbean for the upcoming winter. Many of our land based visitors have been happy to fly to and from Barbados on 20 plus year old aircraft, so ships of a similar age still have plenty of untapped potential, especially towards targeted consumers.

Despite all the obvious challenges the entire tourism industry currently faces, it will become abundantly clear over the next year that there are still people out there with vision, drive and the ability to see a much bigger picture and will use this time to exploit those opportunities that clearly still exist.

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  • Have we not seen that these cruise ships are floating Petri dishes? It’s all well and good to talk about home porting and such but Barbados does not have the resources to handle any potential medical disaster thousands need desperate attention due to an outbreak. One ship alone would overwhelm the QEH and expose us much more than a bus crawl. With no guarantee of international support. After all where are those vaccines for Bajans?

    Too much risk for too little spend from this class of tourism

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  • A long-time, highly qualified, former US Navy doctor and surgeon, Dr. Lee Merrit, wonders why there is so much emphasis on pushing poorly tested and expensive vaccines on the public while there are existing, relatively safe, cheap medications that can be used to treat Covid-19. The same drugs she believes are also generally safe to use as an effective prophylactic treatment before infection and symptoms are apparent.

    In the video at the link below this paragraph Dr. Merrit explain why she is baffled at the rush to inoculate the masses with the Covid-19 vaccines (rushed through abbreviated testing procedures and given emergency approvals – especially troublesome with two of the heavily promoted candidates being the first use of the mRNA new-technology vaccine on humans) while the existing safe drugs that she believes have shown they can be repurposed to treat the disease and and used safely as prophylactics are ignored by the mainstream media and medical authorities. Watch the Dr Merrit interview here:
    https://www.brighteon.com/b95f1834-1283-4866-b16e-fb6bf9092aeb

    Note that Dr. Merrit says that as a doctor she would not advise anyone not to take a Covid-19 vaccine, but she strongly believes that mandatory vaccinations are not in the cards, as every patient does have a right to make an informed decision as to whether or not to consent to take any vaccine.

    This also came out today in Dr. Mercola’s latest email newsletter:

    Journal of Medicine Says HCQ + Zinc Reduces COVID Deaths

    As noted by Dr. Meryl Nass in a June 27, 2020, blog post:2

    “Hydroxychloroquine has been used safely for 65 years in many millions of patients. And so the message was crafted that the drug is safe for its other uses, but dangerous when used for COVID-19. It doesn’t make sense, but it seems to have worked. Were these acts carefully orchestrated? …

    Might these events have been planned to keep the pandemic going? To sell expensive drugs and vaccines to a captive population? Could these acts result in prolonged economic and social hardship, eventually transferring wealth from the middle class to the very rich?”

    SNIP

    In what appears to be an effort to change the tide, a medical review [4] in the January 2021 issue of The American Journal of Medicinenow urges early use of HCQ and zinc. The authors include Risch, as well as a long list of medical doctors from hospitals around the world.

    The Importance of Early Outpatient Treatment
    Risch’s paper, “Pathophysiological Basis and Rationale for Early Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Infection,” [5] points out that:

    “In the absence of clinical trial results, physicians must use what has been learned about the pathophysiology of SARS-CoV-2 infection in determining early outpatient treatment of the illness with the aim of preventing hospitalization or death …

    Therapeutic approaches based on these principles include 1) reduction of reinoculation, 2) combination antiviral therapy, 3) immunomodulation, 4) antiplatelet/antithrombotic therapy, and 5) administration of oxygen, monitoring, and telemedicine.”

    The authors stress that “Most patients who arrive to the hospital … with COVID-19 do not initially require forms of advanced medical care,” and that, therefore, “it is conceivable that some, if not a majority, of hospitalizations could be avoided with a treat-at-home first approach.”

    They also stress that since it can take up to a week to get PCR test results back, it’s important to start treatment before results are known. “For patients with cardinal features of the syndrome (i.e., fever, body aches, nasal congestion, loss of taste and smell, etc.) … treatment can be the same as those with confirmed COVID-19,” they say.

    SNIP

    Indeed, the so-called evidence that HCQ causes lethal heart problems has been shown to be fraudulent. One study was retracted after it was discovered the data had been manufactured, and other large-scale trials were all using toxic doses.

    While doctors reporting success with the drug were using standard doses around 200 mg per day for either a few days or maybe a couple of weeks, studies such as the Bill & Melinda Gates-funded19 Recovery Trial used 2,400 mg of hydroxychloroquine during the first 24 hours — three to six times higher than the daily dosage recommended20 — followed by 400 mg every 12 hours for nine more days for a cumulative dose of 9,200 mg over 10 days.

    Similarly, the Solidarity Trial,[21] led by the World Health Organization, used 2,000 mg on the first day, and a cumulative dose of 8,800 mg over 10 days. These doses are simply too high.

    More:

    articles.mercola(DOT)com/sites/articles/archive/2021/02/01/hydroxychloroquine-and-zinc-for-coronavirus.aspx?ui=bb4dacf56d364c8aecefb22217091c77d2154762c68fd258d557a18be6f6af77&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210201&mid=DM791918&rid=1073561260

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Adrian,
    No No No No… a thousand times No. Have we learned nothing??

    Being “fully vaccinated against Covid-19” does NOT mean that the individual cannot become infected or spread the infection. All it does is strengthen that individual’s immune system to resist becoming ill or gravely ill if they are infected.

    How much damage are we going to let these criminally irresponsible tourism schemes do to our economy, not to mention the Bajan lives put at risk, for the measly crumbs in local spending that these ecological disasters generate??

    Please… I pray… do not let us be so stupid

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  • @PLT

    You are right about CoVid. It was the first question I asked when I went for my jab. It neither stops you from transmitting or contracting the virus. It reduces the impact on one’s health, if contracted. No vaccine is 100 per cent preventative. Masking minimises your transmitting it.

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  • Critical Analyzer

    @peterlawrencethompson February 1, 2021 4:57 PM

    We are already more than stupid. That was clearly proven last year during the first wave of the pandemic when there was all this talk but no support about getting the bush laden fields back into production and all the wonderful diversification ideas posted on the blog.

    If I were younger, I would show the various small farmers and other types of small business owners ow to pool all their small voices into one big voice with the ability to lobby government just like the big businesses and foreign owned entities do.

    Look at how the small investors are socking it to the hedge funds at their own crooked short selling game with the GameStop shares price debacle the hedge funds are finding themselves in now.

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  • Critical Analyzer

    @Hal Austin
    All the vaccine is going to do is turn you into one of those asymptomatic carriers. i.e. Turn the whole bunch of you cruisers into a ship full of typhoid Marys.

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  • @Critical

    I was and remain reluctant to receive the job. I do not have that confidence in science and am too conscious of medical racism.
    Further, I would not be bothered if I were to die tomorrow or this time next year. However, I take my responsibility to those I love seriously.

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  • To all those who think we don’t need expats and tourists: without these two groups, our gross national product per capita is just $5,000, i.e. at mid-African level. Those who want autonomy in the sense of the nationalist and people’s seducer Barrow and his DLP must voluntarily give up refrigerators, cars and everything else. Make this clear to yourselves.

    The declaration of independence was a huge mistake. Without foreign capital from our former colonial masters, we are screwed. Our Supreme Leader and her Barbados Liberal Party know this very well. I therefore strongly welcome her plan for the settlement of New Barbadians. The more the better.

    We need to globalise our island. The national state is a thing of the past. The national state means poverty and hunger and despair.

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  • @ Tron
    Wrong but understandable as it is a prevailing view that keeps us in a malaise and mendicant state of mind unfortunately.

    We don’t need tourists and ex-pats per se. We need creative, innovative ideas to create value and generate wealth for Barbados based businesses and entrepreneurs. If that comes via innovative tourism diversification, embracing the digital economy or agro processing beyond basic crops then so be it. The need is to generate value and be globally competitive no matter if we sell to Caricom or internationally.

    It’s not as basic as flooding the island with expats and cheap tourists. That was the 1980s

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  • peterlawrencethompsonFebruary 1, 2021 4:57 PM tourism schemes do to our economy, not to mention the Bajan lives put at risk, for the measly crumbs in local spending that these ecological disasters generate??

    No doubt that tourism is very needed. However, it must be implemented in sync with the national economic agenda. That means that restrictions should be placed on imported furniture etc, all of that should be made here.

    Further, that taxation and incentives should be linked to room revenue remittances, not gross room revenue. In fact, levy for non remitted room revenue should be higher than for remitted.

    These are a couple of the measures to strengthen the economy and ensure that those who use the local resources contribute a fair share to the economy to pay for those resources.

    Anyone unhappy about that, another investor will come.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Crusoe February 2, 2021 5:21 AM
    “No doubt that tourism is very needed.”
    ++++++++++++++++
    Bullshit!

    We need to strenuously discourage or even outright ban visitors who intend to stay in Barbados for less than two months. We must also quarantine these visitors in a secure facility at their own expense for a full 14 days upon arrival in Barbados.

    This is the best way to protect the income we earn from long term visitors, which is much more important to us in the long term than the short term vacation business.

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  • peterlawrencethompsonFebruary 2, 2021 7:11 AM

    You jumped to a conclusion. I am talking about in the longer term. Not the immediate scenario. The country will not thrive in the long term with only long stay visitors.

    And before you jump to another conclusion, this does not mean that the the country should not diversify. Of course it should. Hands in all pots and the tourism industry should fuel the productive sectors.

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  • David

    We suggest that instead of giving these hoteliers that 300 million and allow the ownership patterns to continue as they have been.

    And considering that it seems inevitable that these beggars will return again and again with cap in hand for social welfare extractions.

    And if we are determined that tourism is the only viable way forward in the medium term, that the government demands that an ownership stake be given to the current employees in hotels transformed into workers’ cooperatives.

    This for us can be the only basis on which hotels should remain supported by the treasury for corporate welfare.

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  • Loveridge’s writings have gone beyond parody and are now just silly. Every single post is some version of how Barbados cant do without tourists and we should be doing more and more to attract them regardless of the cost or benefit. They should be dismissed.

    Time for new thinking.

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  • Dullard,
    then please start with YOUR new thinking rather than useless rhetoric.
    What is your solution to replacing tourism?

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  • Peter,

    As you know I am not a cruise ship fan but you have to explain WHY successive Governments have ploughed tens of millions into subsidizing the cruise sector with nothing approaching a cost-effective return. Not to forget the $500 million loan (plus costs, arrangement fees and interest) the taxpayer is still paying to Carnival for the CWC fiasco.

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  • CORRECTION – US$14,772 (BDS$30 million) loan.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Crusoe February 2, 2021 7:52 AM
    “I am talking about in the longer term. Not the immediate scenario. The country will not thrive in the long term with only long stay visitors.”
    +++++++++++++++++
    I am also talking about the long term. Barbados needs to understand that the country can not only survive, but thrive solely on people coming here to live and work remotely. We can build this into a multi billion USD industry that surpasses the earnings of the old sun, sea, sand and sex tourism by every metric that matters to the Barbadian population: FX earnings, spinoff benefits, smaller environmental footprint, etc.

    We need to pivot our tourism infrastructure to the future, not sit around whining and dreaming about a return to the past. The past is not coming back. There will be flareups of COVID-19 every single winter season for decades to come. It is insanity for us to be planning for a return of short term winter tourism.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Adrian Loveridge February 2, 2021 9:50 AM
    “… you have to explain WHY successive Governments have ploughed tens of millions into subsidizing the cruise sector with nothing approaching a cost-effective return.”
    ++++++++++++++
    There are two available explanations:
    1. stupidity
    2. corruption

    It might, of course, be a combination of the two.

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  • @Peter

    Laziness of thought.

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  • peterlawrencethompsonFebruary 2, 2021 11:39 AM

    I do agree on the long term visitor industry, for sure. But why can’t it be both? I disagree that there will be ay major flareups after the first quarter of 2022. Once vaccinations are all done, there will be a few serious cases and maybe multitudes of mild cases, the latter treated by over the counters or clinics. But most vaccinated bodies should have some level of immunity, even as variants occur.

    Of course, if a more serious variant occurs, than we have seen, everything is moot anyway. The paradigm shift will be anything beyond what we can plan for, at this time, until more is known.

    On industries, we need to encompass all the potential earning power that we have.

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  • @ David,

    Tourists will return to Barbados when Airlines resume regular flights .

    The desire for sun, sea, sand and cheap rum and weed will not change.

    Peter Lawrence Thompson,’s remote worker concept could become the billion dollar fx earner he predicts.

    buh doan mine me. I doan contribute nutten much to de Barbados economy.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Crusoe February 2, 2021 12:35 PM
    “But why can’t it be both? I disagree that there will be ay major flareups after the first quarter of 2022.”
    ++++++++++++++++
    I think you are being unreasonably optimistic. There will be flareups every winter, and the first thing people will do when there is a flareup in London or Toronto or New York is to try to escape to a sunny destination until the flareup subsides… which will of course cause another surge in Barbados just as certainly as it did this year. This is practically inevitable, which means that we will have to continue quarantining arriving visitors in ways that make short term tourism impractical.

    We need to follow economist Marla Dukharan’s advice and go ‘all in’ on our long term tourism product.

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  • then please start with YOUR new thinking rather than useless rhetoric.
    What is your solution to replacing tourism?

    Useless rhetoric? Like your advice to pour good money after bad? Like your inability to see that Covid-19 is going nowhere fast?

    To a hammer everything looks like a nail so I understand why you keep singing the same tune.

    Your vision of and for the tourism industry in Barbados is outdated. Time to move on. No one should be listening to you anymore.

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  • Short term tourism is driven by the major Airlines.

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  • Dullard, exactly as I said. NOT a single alternative suggestion.

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  • The reality is that many governments in the Caribbean have struggled to diversify their economies. The industry employs thousands of people directly and indirectly. Those who toss up the importance of agriculture they often do not mention the volatility associated with the sector be it weather or volatility in external market forces. We have to find a balance. That said it will call for a Herculean ask to make a dent in the contribution agriculture delivered to the GDP. This comment does not excuse Barbados and the region working harder to wean from tourism.

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  • @peterlawrencethompsonFebruary 2, 2021 12:57 PM

    We have all the ingredients for thousands of new Barbadians: lots of building lots in our gated communities, empty beaches, sun, sand and rum, supermarkets with all the food in the world (especially Massa market in Warrens), a store for Miele dishwashers, car dealerships for Mercedes, BMW and Landrover, and enough golf courses.

    What’s really missing is a Tesla dealership. PLT, could you work this out for us???

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  • @Ambassador Trong
    Tesla is banned. Only NIO, the great Chinese automaker will be permitted. The Supreme Leader has already negotiated the dealership for Barbados, which be raffled off at Rhianna’s Diamond Ball in September. Tickets are $20,000 each and available in all gated communities in Barbados. After administrative expenses, $50/ticket sold will be donated to the construction fund for charging stations.

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  • Dullard, exactly as I said. NOT a single alternative suggestion.

    Come on Adrian. This line of reasoning is tired and predictable.

    Whether the Dullard puts forward 1 alternative or 1000 does not change the reality one iota.The world has moved past your outmoded take on how tourism should operate in Barbados. There is no shame in that. That’s life.

    Why don’t you enjoy your Peach and Quiet windfall and keep quiet?

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  • @ NorthernObserver February 2, 2021 5:53 PM

    See you soon.

    Once everyone of significance on the island has their electric car, we should quadruple the price of gasoline. As a patriotic Corona special tax, so to speak, for the people who can’t afford an electric car. The Williams brothers already drive electric cars, so they really don’t care about the price of gasoline.

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  • Some of Peter Lawrence Thompson,’s remote workers could be Torontonians.

    Toronto home prices hit record in 2020, rising 13.5% to average $930,000 ( BAR $1.46 million )

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  • PLT’s remote worker plan is really great.

    In selected municipalities, land prices are rising tremendously. What a profit. Thank you, PLT! I always knew that you are not an insualin nationalist at heart, but a capitalist globalist. Keep it up. I am curious about your next idea, how you increase our wealth.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @ Tron February 2, 2021 6:52 PM
    “In selected municipalities, land prices are rising tremendously.”
    +++++++++++
    In NY City and San Francisco property prices are falling. My hope is that the commercial property market falls far enoungh to drive Trump into bankruptcy for the umpteenth time.

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  • ‘Use imagination, move away from tourism dependency’ – ‘Use imagination, move away from tourism dependency’:

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2021/02/02/use-imagination-move-away-from-tourism-dependency/

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  • @Hants
    “Toronto home prices hit record in 2020”
    Another stroke of Chinese genius. For years, based on fear, thousands of Chinese; first from HK, and then from mainland China, have sought dual nationality (350,000 in HK alone have Cdn citizenship). Another est. 250,000 have bought Commonwealth passports. They have bought property in major urban centres. {recall the BC problem with so many unoccupied homes). NOW, the Chinese government is going to force them to declare a SINGLE citizenship. Either you are Chinese OR you are not. Its a win win. If you declare Chinese, they will seize your property elsewhere. If you declare elsewhere, they will seize your assets in China.
    To maintain absolute control, you must neuter any potential opponents. [and collect as much money as you can]
    Note: BYD is traded in HK, not the mainland.

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  • @NO

    Those would be purchases or new build?

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  • for the ‘offshore’ crew, largely existing properties. Undeveloped land makes access to other benefits utilised, more difficult.

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  • Thanks, mortgage credit is always high in Canada. The inflows from the short people must be a relief to the system.

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  • lol…relief? between them and the Iranians (you know how many bound for Canada were on the Ukranian flight shot down in error) there are a huge part OF the system. S-T rates are now <2%. And in typical Canadian fashion, each time the GoC institutes new “safeguards” in the residential market, people find a way ‘around them’.
    More recently, add in Turkey & S.Korea (a review of arr & dep at YYZ and YUL, show almost daily flights continuing) and you have untold FDI.

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  • @NO

    Why did Trudeau egged on by Dougie and Kenney ban flights from/to Caribbean destinations when there are so many flights from elsewhere and don’t tell me that COVID is not rampart in Iran and other places?

    There is a UK variant and after an initial suspension on flights to Britain, they are now on again and now the variant is in every of the provinces except Manitoba but its only 9.45 am

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  • Tron - always neutral and balanced

    @ peterlawrencethompson February 2, 2021 8:57 PM

    PLT,

    I am talking about St. James, St. Thomas and other distinguished places in Barbados.

    Thanx a lot for boosting our wealth! Well done.

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  • @Sarge
    when public health and politics cross lines some funny things happen. Apparently Florida and Arizona in Feb/Mar are NOT ‘sun destinations’.

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  • UK, South Africa variants? They have come to the same mutations, independently of each other. Y’all not realise that the virus is programmed to mutate a specific way and all countries will get these variants, travel or not?

    The virus knows what it needs to do.

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  • @Crusoe
    Are you saying that the virus was created in a lab?

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  • Now Barbadians are paying a heavy price because of govt stubbornness to keep the borders open to visitors from hot spots

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  • TOURISM & CRUISES
    Canada bans cruises until 2022 in latest blow to industry paralyzed by COVID-19

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  • When it rains it pours.

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  • Antigua and Barbuda minister blisters Mia calling her a deceiver and a manipulator in her bid to steal Liat

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  • Read ePaper
    Home / Top Featured Article / Antigua govt minister charges airline’s destruction was ‘deliberate’

    Antigua govt minister charges airline’s destruction was ‘deliberate’ – by Emmanuel Joseph February 13, 2021

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  • @Angela

    Two points about LIAT and the minister’s outburst. First, we have still not been told who drew up the agreement to sell the Barbados 49 per cent shareholding for US/EC/Bds$1, yet now the Antiguans are telling us we shave debt liabilities.
    Even if you are selling a second-hand you make a better deal. Is that person or persons still employed by the government of Barbados? If so, why?
    The second point, and one the minister hs made, is that our professional class is not as bright as it thinks it is. The minister made the point that they outshine them in class and in professional practice. I assume he is talking about the UWI.
    The only people who think the Barbados professional class is bright are their fan club. Being world class is a fantasy.
    It is this contempt that underlines the Antiguan aggressive approach to dealing with Barbadians. They no longer respect us. We have lost that currency of example, which most of those islands looked to Barbados for.
    We have our politicians to blame.

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  • Hal sound and insightful analysis

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  • Perhaps you may want to point us to where in the article the “Antigua and Barbuda minister blisters Mia calling her a deceiver and a manipulator in her bid to steal Liat.”

    As long as you see anything you believe reflects negatively on the ‘government,’ you would jump for joy, even if it means misrepresenting the facts or ‘throwing reason through the window’ to do so.

    You were one of those individuals who supported the former administration’s efforts when former tourism minister Richard Sealy presented a proposal for the establishment of a Barbados Air Carrier Aerocentury (ACY), which was supposed to replace LIAT.

    The only criticism I have of Mottley in this entire LIAT debacle was she should have sold the 49.4% shareholding to Antigua, rather than being forced to subsequently sell them for EC$1. The Antiguans would have been happy if she had continued to pump Barbadian ‘taxpayers money’ into a failing airline, controlled by them, under the guise of regional unity.

    With BGI and SVG no longer being shareholders, ANU achieved its objective to control LIAT. So, why continue fretting?

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  • Mia thinks that fighting with these poor small islands is better way to go
    For what she doesn’t realize all are in the same boat
    My mind always reflect on Dominca and the way in which Mia decision making help to remove Ross which was an economic staple in Dominica economy
    Say what may Ross wanted to leave
    However Mia also must be reminded to live by her own words ” we are our brothers keeper”

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  • Artax i am not joyful but saddened when pooe small island nations who ought to be unified fight amongst themselves
    The way in which the minister laid out the story places barbados PM in a manner which cannot be pleasing to any reader
    His outburst makes all to reflect and think on how some small island PM belive that they were given power to have a dog eat dog mentality
    Isnt it Mia who always blow the trumpet of “we are all our brothers keeper
    This story goes to such a principle underlined with people of power having a rogue mentality

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  • “This story goes to such a principle underlined with people of power having a rogue mentality.”

    I remember you mentioning something similar about Gaston Browne and calling him a ‘TIN HORN DICTATOR,’ (we all know your criticisms of Browne changes according to who is involved), when he dismissed Richard Sealy saying a decision was made to relocate LIAT’s headquarters to Barbados as “IDLE CHATTER.”
    Browne also said, “Even in terms of the share holding positions of the various governments, I believe the SHARES of Barbados should be DILUTED because they believe that because they have the MAJORITY SHARES, that everything MUST MOVE to Barbados.”

    This is one of several examples of disrespect. Successive Antiguan political administrations have been disrespectful to us for several years now, spanning over successive DLP and BLP administration……….. from Sandiford to Mottley, especially as it relates to LIAT. Gaston Browne also disrespected the other heads of shareholder governments when, for example, he ‘went behind their backs’ to negotiate with Richard Branson and each time he made decisions relative to LIAT without their knowledge or approval. He also enacted legislation to prevent former LIAT employee from suing the Antigua government. Read the BU and local and regional newspapers articles on LIAT.
    So, I’ll agree with ‘Mr. know-it-all’ that the Antiguans “no longer respect us,” but not for the reasons he offered.

    However, his comment re: “we have still not been told who drew up the agreement to sell the Barbados 49 per cent shareholding for US/EC/Bds$1,” is both silly and disingenuous. Everyone knows about that arrangement and it was discussed on BU as well.

    The problem is, while Sandiford, Arthur and Stuart did not ‘stand up’ to Vere Bird, Lester Bird, Baldwin Spencer and Gaston Browne………… Mia Mottley is prepared to ‘stand up’ to Browne. Browne and his ministers can ‘jump up and down and shout out’ as much as they please in their parliament or on Browne’s radio station. Who cares?????

    The fact remains LIAT is no longer a FINANCIAL BURDEN on the backs of Barbadian tax payers.

    I’ll repeat myself once again. As long as you and one or two others hear the name Mia Mottley and anything you believe reflects negatively on the ‘government,’ you would jump for joy, even if it means misrepresenting the facts or ‘throwing reason through the window’ to do so.

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  • Artax
    We are now talking about what has happen presently along with Barbados having a new PM
    The Antigua minister did not sound words of a personnel nature but set out to tell what proposal were made at meetings and what barbados PM had proposed to manipulate with changes by having LIAT base in barbados
    From what i gather the minister saw a wrong being done against the people of Antigua

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  • The point is that you are on record in this forum Barbados needed to stop throwing away taxpayers money on LIAT. Extracting the country from the arrangement which saw Barbados (DLP/BLP) increase equity was not affordable given our current economic predicament. Browne and before him the Birds ran LIAT like a department of the public service. Kudos to the Barbados PM for having the courage to make a hard decision.

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  • RE: “The Antigua minister did not sound words of a personnel nature but set out to tell what proposal were made at meetings and what barbados PM had proposed to manipulate with changes by having LIAT base in barbados.”

    I do not understand your above comment. Please explain.

    Successive Antigua & Barbuda political administrations approach to issues dealing with LIAT has always been adversarial. So, within that context, “Barbados having a new PM” is irrelevant.

    Didn’t you “gather a wrong being done against the people of Antigua,” when there were similar outcries from both the Antiguan ruling and Opposition parties in their parliament and the media, after a document outlining a proposal to establish a new Barbados based air carrier to replace LIAT was released to the public?

    However, it’s useless engaging in a discussion with you on LIAT, especially from a historical perspective, simply because you don’t know anything. Rather than avail yourself of the relevant information so we could have an informative and rational debate, you prefer to ‘stab wild in the dark’ and focus specifically on Mottley.

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  • Artax
    Agree it is useless when one lets the politics place blinders on ones eyes
    My sole response was drawn on what a minister said at the meeting
    Now here to defend or suggest what govts ought to resolve but to look at present circumstances and proposal made by govts
    If as the minister stated that proposals were laid out on grounds to undermine then barbados govt should speak out to correct or clarify
    Meantime the message sent by the minister is damaging to the PM Mottley reputation whether true or not

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  • According to the old saying, “admittance is the first step to recovery.” I’m happy to know you’ve finally ADMITTED ‘you let the politics place blinders on YOUR eyes.’

    It’s unfortunate you always view EVERY ISSUE as a BLP versus DLP scenario, to the extent you come to this forum every day to FOCUS on EVERYTHING you believe that reflects negatively on the current administration.

    However, I’ll agree with you the “Barbados ‘government’ should speak out to correct or clarify.” Until then, I’m not going follow you down the ‘rabbit hole’ of assumption and believe ‘ONE SIDE of the story.’

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  • Artax

    However, I’ll agree with you the “Barbados ‘government’ should speak out to correct or clarify.” Until then, I’m not going follow you down the ‘rabbit hole’ of assumption and believe ‘ONE SIDE of the story

    Neither i would follow you into a political circus of the got uh game
    Factual or not the minister laid out a plausible case one founded on proposals made at meetings
    The onesss is not one me to be favour of any one party or administration but can only make response to what so far been said by the Antigua minister
    For what i have gathered the message sent is not a good one
    I leave it at that

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  • Follow me “into a political circus of the got uh game?”

    What nonsense are you on about and how is it relevant to the discussion?

    My friend, there isn’t anyone on BU who is more political than you.

    Have a pleasant afternoon.

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  • Steupse

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  • Hahahahaha

    Poor you.

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