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Submitted by Roslyn Stanherd

The fervent tone of most of the panellists supporting the removal of Lord Nelson’s statute on the Sunday July 12, 2020 programme, ‘The Peoples Business’ muted that of the sole panellist against its removal.  There was a lot of emotion, stated positions but no balance view on why the statute should be removed.  Research was necessary to determine fact from fiction and emotion from material evidence.

Lord Nelson shared via his writings, his ‘old-school’ views of a profitable British colonial system dependent on the slave trade, i.e., supporting money for the plantation owners and death for thousands of slaves.  Production was of prime importance to plantation owners who had mortgages to pay. The common practice therefore was for slave owners to deliberately work slaves to death via overwork, poor nutrition, poor work conditions, brutality, and disease simply because it was cheaper to replace slaves every 7 years than to feed them properly.  The high death rate among the Barbados slave population in the 1770s is evidenced by the annual importation of the 5,000 slaves necessary to increase the population by 700 per year. Therefore, slave owners by their actions bring into question the validity of the contention that Lord Nelson’s sinking of ships carrying food including bread fruit to the islands caused the death of thousands of slaves.  Sugar cane was a land intensive crop that required plantations used most of the arable land. With few exceptions, slaves were only allowed to cultivate food crops on rubble land but were granted limited time to do so. Owners did import costly foodstuff but they rationed these with a stingy hand. It was the Amelioration Act of 1798 which forced planters to improve conditions for slaves.

Yes, he spoke of his support for slave owners and the slave trade but was Lord Nelson overtly or privately racist.  Evidence suggests otherwise. He helped secure the release of slaves, hired ex slaves, paid them well and supported the idea that plantation slaves should be replaced by freed, paid industrious Chinese workers.

Finally, his success at the Battle of Trafalgar created the conditions that supported the British abolitionists.  Now in control of the seas, the British adhered to the abolition of slavery capturing 1600 slave ships and freeing around 150,000 slaves.

Whether we choose to learn our full history or err on the side of emotion is left to us.

The Sunday Nation of July 12, 2020 article ‘Black Lives in the Spotlight’ by Colville Mounsey addressed realities centred around the position “that elements of our historical starting points still shape the Barbadian economic power structure’.  This balanced article provided a contra position that was interesting, in that it might remind one of the American constitution which informs that all men are created equal, yet generations of blacks continue to be marginalized. The article is worth the read.

From my Barbados experience, though black business people had limited experience running businesses, they all had good ideas.  Unfortunately, they were naive always expecting business to be good and never planning for worst case scenarios.  Their mindsets prevented them from being responsive to situations which hampered businesses growth and development. In addition, money to cover business lags was not every easily accessible and most of them failed.

Retail banks and credit unions are usually wary of startups. Most of the local companies once providing funding to businesses as well as offering much needed advice and guidance are no longer in operation. A business plan along with collateral security are prerequisites for obtaining loans but whites and Indians have the option of obtaining financial handouts and other material support from family and friends something that is a rarity for blacks. In addition, the long preparatory process inclusive of financial assessment  can open doors for ideas to be subtly and overtly sabotaged.

Even at the end of a successful black businessman life cycle there is generally no succession plan for the handover of the business to a competent offspring. A failed black business most often means a loss of property/ies with black people poorer for it. Successful black businessmen also fail on a macro level in that they do not transfer key business information and knowledge via offers of support and guidance to start ups.

Then there’s this; the A students work for private enterprise, the B students for Government and the C for themselves, with the later typically starting at an early age.  There is no need to guess the categories preferred by black people.

My response is not analytical because there’s little evidence to support the perceptions and questions raised by those who doubt that black businesses are disadvantaged.  It is an area that should be investigated/researched.  Meanwhile, successful black businessmen should develop strategies to offer support to startup businesses.


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520 responses to “Bajan Black Lives Then and Now”


  1. I have a few questions and comments about the campaign “buy only from blacks, but not from everyone else”.

    Black businessmen are portrayed in this blog as little helpless children. How ridiculous! The black Barbadians I know as businessmen are very successful and at least as cunning as Baloney and Bizzy. But they keep a low profile and leave it to COW to torture the public with pinpricks from time to time. LOL.

    On the implementation of the campaign: What is a black and a white businessman? What about mulattos? Don’t you need some kind of Africa certificate and guidelines for dealing with half, quarter and eighth blacks? What about “honorable blacks,” that is, whites who fought for blacks? What about the one drop rule? Are Baloney and COWs to be treated as blacks as well? Do southern Indians and Australian natives also fall under the concept of black?


  2. @ Hal July 14, 2020 11:15 AM

    That Vet. thing was a real eye opener. My personal experience has been tempered by the fact that blacks willing take part in the whole charade on behalf of whites.


  3. @ Robert,

    You are a clever man. When the Haitians expelled the French in 1804, the first thing they did was to get rid of the slaves who spied for the massa. It has ever been thus. You must separate out your commitment to black advancement and your relations with individual black people.
    I grew up with plantation watchmen who would break a hungry kids’ back with his stick for stealing sugar cane. In Barbados there are more private police than there are official ones. Every supermarket, every office, every petrol station got so-called security men and women. They are the modern watchmen. The police force was created to police black people, not whites; they still do.
    @Robert, as a matter of policy I used to give work experience to nearly every young person who approached me, including black and white Bajans, including the son of a well-known businessman.
    Almost to a young man and woman, the English would always say thank you at the end, some even sent thank you cards. The Bajans, black and white, never said a word.


  4. Hal isnt that what they were putting jeffrey epstein away for


  5. @Lawson

    The Canadian side of you is showing.

  6. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @Tron
    Skipper you have to stop that sh!!te talk, you catspraddle de apple cart and had me collecting apples for an hour.

  7. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    For the nelson sympathizers….can’t believe people would be so stupid in this day and age to be making excuses and telling lies for this savage dead animal…a Guardian article from 2 years ago described him accurately…

    “One of the obstacles all these abolitionists had to overcome was the influence of Nelson, who was what you would now call, without hesitation, a white supremacist. While many around him were denouncing slavery, Nelson was vigorously defending it. Britain’s best known naval hero….used his seat in the House of Lords and his position of huge influence to perpetuate the tyranny, serial rape and exploitation organised by West Indian planters, some of whom he counted among his closest friends”


  8. This is not an attack
    “BAJAN BLACKS ARE THEIR WORST ENEMY.”
    The few Bajan blacks that I continue to interact with are fine people.
    I have often told my son “Because a man is black like you, it does not mean he is your friend. Because a person os different from you, it does not mean he is your enemy. Be sensible and proceed cautiously. Trust but verify.”
    Assess a man by what he does; if you lead with your color, you may have a few disappointments.

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    I WAS MAKING A RESPONSE TO THE STEREOTYPE MENTIONED BY @robert lucas OF BLACK BUSINESS MEN IN BARBADOS BUYING NICE CARS, MANY WOMEN ETC WHICH IS EQUALLY THE SAME AS MANY INDIANS AND WHITES ON THE ISLAND BUT WHO GET A PASS WHILST THE BLACKS ON THE ISLAND CONTINUE TO PATRONISE THEIR BUSINESSES WHILST ABANDONING BLACK OWNED BECAUSE OF JEALOUSLY, ENVY AND HOW DARE YOU.

    BLACKS ON THE ISLAND ARE STILL THE LARGEST SUPPORTERS OF THE FOLLOWING BUSINESSMEN WHO DO THE SAME BUT GET A PASS.

    PETER HARRIS CGI
    BIZZY WILLIAMS WILLIAMS INDUSTRY
    ALLAN FIELDS
    KAILASH PARDASI PROMOTECH

    HENCE WHY I SAID ARE THEIR WORST ENEMY. I CAN NAME MANY NON BLACKS BUSINESSMEN WHO ARE INVOLVED IN WORSE STILL HAVING SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES IN BIM.

    PICK SENSE INSTEAD OF SHOWING IGNORANCE TO THE FACTS.

    HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH CHARACTER OR WHETHER SOMEONE IS NICE OR NOT.

  9. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ DPD
    I stand by what I wrote. I know three black millionaires who started from scratch. I know there are always exceptions to the rule. Whenever real facts are brought to light, there are always those who would pretend that there are just winners and losers. I know different.


  10. I WONDER IF THIS WAS A BLACK OWNED BUSINESS IF WOULD STILL BE OPERATING:

    I KNOW THE NON BLACK OWNERS ARE MILLIONAIRES.

    Oran workers protest job conditions

    Workers at Oran Limited downed their tools this morning around 9 o’clock, saying they could no longer tolerate the ‘unsanitary and unsafe’ environment in which they work.

    When a Nation team arrived, more than 50 general workers in the production department were huddled together talking amongst themselves.

    They said there was a rodent infestation and the flooring where they worked was dangerous, as were some of the chemicals they were being asked to use to make window frames and doors.

    https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/246678/oran-workers-protest-job-conditions

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    SOME YEARS AGO ONE OF COW WILLIAMS CURRENT OR FORMER WHITE WIFE DUMPED GARBAGE ON A BLACK WOMAN BUSINESS OWNER STORE COUNTER IN SPEIGHTSTOWN, NOT A FELLOW ARRESTED AS SHE WAS ASSISTED BY GOONS.

    COW BUSINESSES ARE STILL FLOURISHING EVEN THOUGH HE LATER BANKRUPTED APES HILL GOLF COURSE AND SQUANDERED MILLIONS OF NIS $.

    BLACK BAJANS AND GOVERNMENT STILL SUPPORT.

    HOWEVER NARROW MINDED BLACKS ARE QUICK TO POINT FINGERS AT THEIR OWN TO LABEL THEM AS TO WHY THEY FAIL.

    THE BLACK BESS WHITE BOYS HAVE HAD FAILURE AFTER FAILURE WHILST COOKING THE BOOKS YET SEVERAL OF THEIR BUSINESSES ARE SUPPORTED BY BLACK BAJANS.

    LOOK IN THE MIRROR INSTEAD OF BEING HYPOCRITES AND STOP BEING NARROW MINDED.


  11. WURA-War-on-UJuly 14, 2020 7:46 PM

    While many around him were denouncing slavery, Nelson was vigorously defending it.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Did you know Wilberforce also defended slavery?

    http://revealinghistories.org.uk/who-resisted-and-campaigned-for-abolition/people/william-wilberforce-and-abolition.html

    “However, Wilberforce disagreed, and argued that enslaved people were not ready to be granted their freedom. He pointed out in a pamphlet in 1807 that:

    ‘It would be wrong to emancipate (the slaves). To grant freedom to them immediately would be to insure not only their masters’ ruin, but their own. They must (first) be trained and educated for freedom’.”


  12. … and 1807 is after Nelson died at Trafalgar, 1805.


  13. @ Baje

    You are right on two points. The Goons who invaded that woman’s boutique and walked away without any repercussions. No doubt they were armed. We know some of the boys on the block are also armed and if that is the way they want to play it then the boys should face them down.
    Every one of those Goons should have been hunted down and told not to do it again. If we allow the whit es and Muslims to intimidate us then we have already lost the country. We mus t press for the rule of law.
    The second point, @Baaje, you are right about is the care free way in which Barbadians spend their money. They have no concept of consumer power and do not want to.
    Remember the Bajan saying: This is my money, did you work for this. Deconstruct it and it embodies massive ignorance about consumer power.
    Bajan shoppers should boycott some stores. One day Massy’s, the next Cave Shepherd, the next Chefette’s etc. I am always amazed when you see the crowds rushing in to Abed’s, the Syrian/Lebanese store in Swan Street.
    They clearly cannot remember when crowds of people – their parents and grand parents – rushed that store after allegations that a manager had hit a black woman. Now we have these Lebanese aspiring to be members of parliament and to influence the so-called Social Partnership.
    @Baje, we need clear leadership. By7 the way, when is police officer Gittens going to face the courts? When is David Denny going to march for justice for the wife and mother of Gittens’ victims? Or is it easier to march in support of a victim 3000 miles away, or to remove Nelson’s statue?
    We must organise, organise, organise.

  14. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Black John…this was the person REALLY RESPONSIBLE for the Abolition of Slavery, the book he wrote gave Wilberforce the weapon he needed, as he had access to the parliament and did some work, everyone thought it was his idea….

    “The Equiano Project | Olaudah Equiano
    equiano.uk/the-equiano-project
    Equiano published his autobiography, ‘The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano or Gustavus Vassa, the African’ in 1789, at a time when he was a principal opponent of the slave trade. The British Transatlantic Slave Trade was officially abolished by an Act of Parliament in 1807.”


  15. You are confusing the abolition of the slave trade (1807) and the abolition of slavery (1833/4).

    For sure Wilberforce championed the abolition of the slave trade, but he was against the abolition of slavery and had to be persuaded.

  16. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    The indigenous African in some Caribbean islands are generationally robbed of their ownership of intellectual property rights by Black corrupt governments to promote and enrich others who look nothing like them. Barbados governments are famous for stealing the intellectual property rights of the creatives and inventors in the Black majority population and either keeping it for their friends and families or selling it out to minority thieves. They have done it for decades and disenfranchised generations of creatives and their beneficiaries on the island with their disrespect. Only recently they were exposed internationally for violating the rights of creatives when they STILL REFUSE to observe those collective intellectual property rights.

    So it is only right and fitting to let this government know that any knowledge, ownership, possession, development etc regarding the Marijuana is the SOLE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY of those who have that information, some I understand have already been PATENTED outside the island, so these dirty little intents by government to steal from those creatives what is rightfully theirs, the evil intent to starve and reduce to poverty those with the knowledge so you can sell them out to those whom you already sold out the plantation lands to build marijuana slave plantations to reduce your people to slaves once again, to disenfranchise your own people again, in your greed corrupt state, will be met with push back from the international arena. This most malicious intent by corrupt government ministers to enrich and promote minorities at the expense of the African descended and their descendants, still, in this 21st century, will end in this era.

    ▼Article XXVIII. Protection of cultural heritage and intellectual property

    Indigenous peoples have the right to full recognition and respect for the ownership, dominion, possession, control, development, and protection of their tangible and intangible cultural heritage and intellectual property, including its collective nature, transmitted over millennia from generation to generation.

    The collective intellectual property of indigenous peoples includes, inter alia, traditional knowledge and traditional cultural expressions, including traditional knowledge associated with genetic resources, ancestral designs and procedures, cultural, artistic, spiritual, technological, and scientific expressions, tangible and intangible cultural heritage, as well as knowledge and developments of their own related to biodiversity and the utility and qualities of seeds, medicinal plants, flora, and fauna. States, with the full and effective participation of indigenous peoples, shall adopt measures necessary to ensure that national and international agreements
    and regimes provide recognition and adequate protection for the cultural heritage of indigenous peoples and intellectual property associated with that heritage. In adopting such measures, consultations shall be held to obtain the free, prior and informed consent of indigenous peoples. and regimes provide recognition and adequate protection for the cultural heritage of indigenous peoples and intellectual property associated with that heritage. In adopting such measures, consultations shall be held to obtain the free, prior and informed consent of indigenous peoples.

  17. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    You are talking about Wilberforce whom i don’t give much prominence to….his intent was financial as are most of those who claimed that they abolished anything….slaves fought for their rights TO BE FREE….and slavery, enslavement, the trade was becoming UNPROFITABLE….too expense for UK and Europe to maintain any longer,, they just did not have a readily available replacement at that time, too greedy, perverted and vile to think of anything other than enslaving another human being, hence the reason that decades after abolition, slavery remained a staple in the lives of the African descended, decades after emancipation, slavery by another name, still remained in the lives of the African descended, it was always slavery by another name, a little harder to implement these days, but not for a lack of trying…..


  18. This is a good link to understand how Wilberforce became an Evangelical Christian.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/people/williamwilberforce_1.shtml

  19. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Information on how to BUILD A BLACK NATION….for the Black men and women who are not weaklings, mentally enslaved and fowl slaves.

    https://youtu.be/6nFZZCcxzBw?t=127


  20. Mounsey article on Government’s small business package

    Wily has a question, is the poor take up the result of lack of interest or RED TAPE and LACK OF FUNDS by government. Knowing business it’s not in their nature to pass up free money or essentially free money. Has the author stumbled on another Barbados issue, a significant number of Business’s I are operating without being legally registered and therefore can not partake of the offer. Did government know thus when they made the offer knowing it would result in limited payouts. Wily is always suspicious of Barbados announced incentives as it more TALK THAN ACTION, photo op and grandstanding.


  21. The second point, @Baaje, you are right about is the care free way in which Barbadians spend their money. They have no concept of consumer power and do not want to.
    Remember the Bajan saying: This is my money, did you work for this. Deconstruct it and it embodies massive ignorance about consumer power.
    Bajan shoppers should boycott some stores. One day Massy’s, the next Cave Shepherd, the next Chefette’s etc. I am always amazed when you see the crowds rushing in to Abed’s, the Syrian/Lebanese store in Swan Street.

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    HENCE YOU HAVE FURTHER STRENGTHEN THE POINT THAT BLACK BAJANS ARE THEIR WORST ENEMY.

    KEEP PROPPING UP THE WHITE MAN, INDIANS BUSINESSES ETC WHILST ABANDONING YOUR OWN BLACK BUSINESSES BECAUSE OF PETTY BELIEFS, STEREOTYPES AND ENVY.

    I REMEMBER AN INCIDENT WHICH HAPPENED IN ONE OF BIZZY WILLIAMS HARDWARE STORE WHERE A WHITE MANAGER INSULTED A BLACK PERSON WHICH MADE IT INTO THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER.

    THAT BUSINESS ACE HARDWARE IS STILL FLOURISHING WITH THE WHITE MANAGER NEVER TERMINATED AS FAR AS I AM AWARE.

    95% BLACK BAJANS STILL WONDER WHY THEY ARE IN ECONOMIC SLAVERY.


  22. Mia on MSNBC with Peter’s idea.


  23. That is all they are good for Donna…steal other people’s/their own people’s ideas and intellectual property(s) rights and claim it as their own and sell it ……listen out for the next theft of ideas…..they are intellectually barren…they have no shame.


  24. Stupse!


  25. In April 2014, a Black customer, Mark Dates accused store manager of the Bizzy Williams owned Ace H&B Hardware, Brian Hinds, of accosting and insulting him. A gentleman, Steven Pollard, organized a protest outside Williams Industries in Cane Garden, St. Thomas. On that day, the only individual present was Pollard.

    However, Bizzy said, since the incident, he was inundated with several telephone calls from people complementing Hinds on his excellent service, sales have increased, while customers and the general public continued to be supportive of Hinds.

    Our reluctance to support Black owned businesses is another reason why they fail. We prefer to patronize businesses owned by whites, Indians, Arabs and Chinese. Look at Chefette for example. After the COVID-19 restrictions on restaurants were ‘relaxed,’ you should have seen the long queues waiting at the ‘drive through.’ Bajans suddenly became tired of home cooked meals, in favour of salty, greasy fried chicken.

    I’ve heard several people selling chicken, pork, fish & chips on weekends, saying they had an increase in sales, which ended abruptly, when Chefette’s ‘drive-throughs’ re-opened…… and now the restaurant is fully opened…….

    There is a store on Palmetto Street named ‘Flame Shop,’ where its Arab owners pay their employees for 40 hours per week, which is legal. But, ‘here’s the catch.’
    From Monday to Thursday – off day = 3 days x 8 hrs = 24 hrs.
    Friday = 7am – 7pm = 12 hrs – 2 hrs for lunch = 10 hrs
    Saturday = 8am – 2pm = 6 hrs
    24+10+6 = 40 hrs. And, note any time in excess of 8 hrs is regarded as overtime. They are exploiting the employees and not paying O/T.

    We are following the ‘trend’ shouting ‘Black lives matter,’ in support of an African-American, who was murdered by white policemen, while purposely ignoring how Haloutte treats his employees, or how Abed, Arab, Indian and Pakistani store owners in Swan Street have been exploiting their Black employees for years…… as if their ‘lives don’t matter,’ as well.

  26. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Wait…Fowl Enuff…wuh i thought you were on MSNBC…ya busy enuff these days…ya are a regular rockstar….ya going places…but next time when the UK or Europe ask ya what ya want FOR THE PEOPLE …be prepared to tell them, it can’t be no secret behind closed doors, no secret negotiations…it looks corrupt and sleazy…like ya trying to hide something from the people to whom the reparations belong…reparations don’t belong to yall…ya do not have black slaves in chattel bondage, but economic bondage …yeah……ya should have ASKED THE PEOPLE HOW and …in what form do they want THEIR REPARATIONS….it BELONGS to the over 260,000 BLACK population..it’s not yours to hem and haw with, not yours to consult with a bunch of racist minorities about….be prepared next time, think it through……SPEAK TO THE BLACK MAJORITY….yall want to consult with them about the removal of that dirty piece of stone nelson…when ya had a consult over 20 years ago and certainly don’t need one now…….so why not consult the people about THEIR reparations NOW….

    ya must think the people act at your level…no they don’t or their very impressive skills could never have lasted over 400 years…yall are amateurs…wuh ya can’t even take little ancient me….

    don’t be like DLP…who already had a scam in place to tief from the reparations of over 120,000 African descended in Barbados…because ya know tiefing from ya people is what you do…..and if one of u little cockroaches fly out to tell me am lying…ah will call the name of the senator who was at that meeting at Hal Martins hotel…

    ah go soon start charging alyuh…ya are extortionists…ya have money in the people’s name and always crying broke..


  27. Ease up on sending bailiff, Lashley urges WHITE retailers

    The pandemic crisis is not yet over but WHITE retailers are chasing down BLACK householders to pay their bills, former social transformation minister Hamilton Lashley has said, pleading for sympathy with the plight of those made jobless by the COVID-19 environment.

    Since a three-month moratorium ended in June, many BLACK people are being threatened that the bailiff may come knocking on their doors any day now, Lashley told Barbados TODAY.

    He said he has been receiving complaints, mainly from BLACK women heading large households, that they are being pressured to settle their debts, or face the consequences.

    Lashley said that while he fully understands the legal obligation to repay debt, he believes that the managers OF WHITE OWNED BUSINESSES should understand that given the significant job cuts caused by the pandemic, many people are struggling to make ends meet.

    He also pleaded with landlords to work with newly unemployed tenants who are finding it difficult to pay rent.

    The former St Michael South East MP said that rather than WHITE businesses harassing those who owe them, but are unable to pay them at this time, they should meet with the debtors and find proactive solutions that would benefit all parties involved.

    Lashley said: “I find it very insensitive. Nobody is saying that BLACK people are not to pay their dues, but the thing about it is that this is a special time and special considerations should be given to those who are struggling.

    “Of course an extended moratorium should be extended to them and I believe that those that are struggling should be asked to come in and make new arrangements, rather than having them suffer the psychological drama, and in some cases disorientation after being threatened to have their debts paid before the marshals and the bailiffs and eventually the law courts get involved. In these COVID-19 times special considerations should be given to the new normal that we are facing.”

    The social activist said a new approach is needed to deal with the marginalized and disenfranchised during the pandemic. He expressed concern about a devastating rippling effect on disadvantaged BLACK communities across the country.

    He urged the private sector and Welfare Department work together to assist people who are receiving cash assistance from Government.

    Lashley told Barbados TODAY: “I believe that a tripartite relationship could be worked out between the private sector, Government, and certainly those persons that have been affected in these categories by the pandemic. When one looks at the fact that you have a great number of BLACK hotel workers affected and impacted very negatively, then this consideration should be given.

    “I think the very last resort should be having BLACK people going before the law court because it is not going to serve any good, rather than further traumatize BLACK families. So I am saying that special considerations must be given rather than harassment they need to simply sit down and work out proactive approaches to avert this kind of mental stress.”

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/07/15/ease-up-on-sending-bailiff-lashley-urges-retailers/


  28. @ Artax July 15, 2020 2:02 PM

    This is not about black and white people, but about the underlying problems.

    If the owners of Coca-Cola or Chefette were black people, would you advise Barbadian children to fill their bellies with this poison every day? People should indeed eat fish and salad – because it is healthy. It’s similar with our contractors. If a black contractor bribes local politicians and uses the NIS as an ATM, is that laudable? Certainly not.

    The main problem of our contractors is their lax attitude towards party and political funding. In addition, they are not innovative, as you can see from their completely outdated ideas. Conversely, I warmly welcome PLT’s initiative to promote entrepreneurship. Not as black folklore, but to promote economic power, because there are far too few entrepreneurs in Barbados.

    Similarly, the discourse in the USA about blacks and whites obscures the larger problems. The police violence against blacks is not only an expression of racism (of course I don’t deny that), but also due to a lack of professional training. Or take a look at US universities: Blacks there get a bonus on their entrance test and are thus officially treated as fools. It would be much better to offer good schooling in the socially challenged residential areas and to support children at school to make it to university.

    It does not help to fight the fire only if the fuel is still there.


  29. @ BAJE July 15, 2020 2:51 PM

    If I follow your logic, I draw a reverse conclusion: That black retailers may squeeze their white customers like lemons.

    Possible, but not imperative, is even the conclusion that black retailers are allowed to squeeze their black customers like lemons.

  30. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    That is what happens when ya give them all ya money and then ALLOW them to own everything, ya gave them your economic power…we have been telling yall about this for years…but don’t mind me, thank Madame Plague for allowing you to stop the pretense before more generations are destroyed by these thieves and your no good leaders….if you allow your children and grandchildren to suffer….that’s on you..


  31. uMkhonto we Sizwe “Spear of the Nation” was armed wing of ANC which Nelson Mandela launched after Sharpeville but they represented thousands of freedom fighters and protestors, men women and children

    People only talk about African and American leaders like Mandela and MLK but there are hundreds of revolutionary leaders and famous people who fought against Slavery, Apartheid and Segregation and for Freedom and Equal Rights like Steve Biko, Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X, George Jackson, Toussaint L’Ouverture, Kwame Nkrumah, Patrice Lumumba, Jomo Kenyatta, Stokely Carmichael, Black Panthers, Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, Nat Turner, Mohammed Ali, Jack Johnson, Nina Simone, Maya Angelou, James Baldwin,

    There were many song with lyrics which could not be censored
    beware of the advancing blacks
    now that you have touched the women, you have struck a rock, you have dislodged a boulder, and you will be crushed

    People spent their whole lives fighting for their causes which was their calling and sense of purpose, but was a long hard battle and sacrifice which they had to be committed to risking their lives, being killed, arrested, beaten, hospitalised, paralysed

  32. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Same private sector crooks had no problem robbing the people and country for at least the last 40 years though, all up in taxpayer’s money and NIS Pension Fund…always got some scam to run on the public purse….blame your leaders.


  33. Interesting clip on COVID

  34. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ Artax
    You wrote:
    “We are following the ‘trend’ shouting ‘Black lives matter,’ in support of an African-American, who was murdered by white policemen, while purposely ignoring how Haloutte treats his employees, or how Abed, Arab, Indian and Pakistani store owners in Swan Street have been exploiting their Black employees for years…… as if their ‘lives don’t matter,’ as well.“

    Thank you. The above is another travesty that this society has been sweeping under the carpet for donkey
    years. That is why @ WURU Is correct about the black political class and that is why I ignore those spineless apologists on BU who continue to prop up the political class.


  35. Beware, Verwoerd! (Ndodemnyama)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZihAL-GDNAY

  36. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Artax, oppression, discrimination or prejudice anywhere is wrong everywhere it is manifest… thus any attempt to compare and contrast the ‘trending’ calls of Black Lives Matter in the US and set it against local anger over Syrian/Lebanese/Indo-Pakistani discrimination towards Black Bajans is a false narrative: all are oppression and plain and simply stated just WRONG!

    This ‘trend’ as you call it has been an enduring burden on the lives of Black Americans for generations… frankly, it is well past time for it to be shouted from the roof tops and bridges endlessly … so let us not create a false narrative that Bajans cannot 1) identify with and embrace that fight and 2) also effectively localize it to energize our struggles against our own long standing discriminatory behaviors.

    I am bemused that we adopt such a contrarian approach … BLM is … the oppression of Palestinian rights; it’s the Kenyan masses’ struggle against their police brutality or that of the Brazilan forces who so aggressively go at those in the favellas; it’s the old and new face of prejudice in South Africa to which the cricketer Ngidi gave his voice…or about which Mike Holding and Ebony Rainford-Brent spoke so passionately recently; it’s young Pakistani Malala who was almost herself killed years ago for speaking out against gender discrimination in her country and yes it’s surely about our OWN enduring problems with racial inequality, classism and political elitism…it’s new only in name and currency but otherwise ‘that is’ a painful cry that has been with us forever and many a day!

    We should be using it as a source of inspiration to our local benefits… as all others around the world are!

  37. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Well stated @Kiki/555Dub at 3:16. You more eloquently said what I tried to say… I missed your post otherwise I would have remained silent with a ‘like’.


  38. Tron July 15, 2020 2:55 PM #: “This is not about black and white people, but about the underlying problems.”

    @ Tron

    My friend, surely, you jest!

    Years ago, I worked at a white owned company that employed the UNQUALIFIED sister of a WHITE supervisor, as an office clerk. Whenever she encountered any difficulties relating to accounting, she would ask me for assistance. One day as I was examining the monthly payroll, I realized her NET salary was MORE than my GROSS.

    In other words, her remaining salary AFTER deductions was MORE than mine BEFORE deductions. I refused to render her any further assistance. What I also realized was, the white employees were paid significantly higher salaries than their Black counterparts.

    Bear in mind, the financial controller and his assistant were BLACK.

    Let me give you another example. I went in the then Inland Revenue to collect TD5 slips for a client. I was waiting for almost 10 minutes, when a white man came in. Three officers immediately rushed to the desk to assist him. One lady greeted him and asked how may she help. He told her he wanted TD5 slips and she gave him, ‘no questions asked.’ All that time the other two officers returned to their desks. After, without any greeting, she then turned her attention to me. I told her I wanted TD5 slips as well, to which she abruptly replied, “is this first time filing? Because if um is first time filing yuh khan get none, yuh would have to wait for when duh come in de mail.”

    I hope you note the differences in customer service.

    Black hotel guests are more likely to be stopped and questioned by security guards, than white guests…… and more likely to be served in the restaurant AFTER white guest. It’s mainly because we have this ‘instinctive perception’ that ALL tourist are white or straight haired people, while Black people are ‘hustlers, beach-bums, black coral vendors or thieves. This attitude seems to have come from way back in the 60s or 70s into 2020.

    On the other hand, we don’t make things easy for ourselves, either. Some employees lose their jobs for stealing things as simple as ice cream. I know of a pastry chef who was fired for stealing flour and eggs…… another for stealing bread; a chief steward lost 28 years for 7 slices of cheese; and a cook for 10 flying fish. Things employed people could afford to buy.

    But, yuh know a Black employee could not get pass security with 7 slices of cheese or bread, but a white employee was able to leave the property with over $800,000 in computer equipment; and a white purchasing manager was able to use the hotel’s duty free concessions to import items for her interior decorating business.

    And now I’m on about tourists, whites usually say Bajans are friendly people. Why? Let me give you an example. White people board a crowded Transport Board bus and black people are more then eager to offer them their seats. Yet, they sit comfortably in the seats specially provided for the elderly, pregnant ladies, ladies with babies and the disabled, refusing to get up when any from those categories board the bus.

    Now, here are some really very friendly Bajans for yuh.

    Tron, it’s all about ‘black and white.’

    By the way, what are the underlying problems?.


  39. Of course blacks are discriminated against. Especially in the United States. I wouldn’t be so sure in Barbados. What you’re describing is:

    Nepotism amongst relatives. I assume most whites in Barbados are related somehow since it is a very small community. If I remember correctly, our ministers do the same with their relatives. Don’t they?

    Preferential treatment for people who are considered rich customers. It’s the same in every tourist destination. How do you think white people in some places like Geneva kiss the a** of rich Arabs, Asians and even Africans, LOL …

    Bad administration. Some expats complained to me that they had to queue for an hour to have their driving licence renewed – in the meantime some relatives of the public officers were allowed to pass them.

    Harassment of workers. It happens everywhere. In North America and Europe, employers fire employees for 2 dollars, while highly incompetent managers are praised away to the board of directors.


  40. My next door neighbor happens to be a white guy. He and his wife visited Barbados based on the fact that I am from there. On his return he boasts of how friendly and how generous Barbadians are.

    Yes generous.


  41. In historic move, North Carolina city approves reparations for Black residents

    ASHEVILLE, N.C. – In an extraordinary move, the Asheville City Council has apologized for the North Carolina city’s historic role in slavery, discrimination and denial of basic liberties to Black residents and voted to provide reparations to them and their descendants.

    The 7-0 vote came the night of July 14.

    “Hundreds of years of Black blood spilled that basically fills the cup we drink from today,” said Councilman Keith Young, one of two African American members of the body and the measure’s chief proponent.

    “It is simply not enough to remove statutes. Black people in this country are dealing with issues that are systemic in nature.”

    The unanimously passed resolution does not mandate direct payments. Instead, it will make investments in areas where Black residents face disparities.

    REPARATIONS: How much would the US owe descendants of enslaved people?

    “The resulting budgetary and programmatic priorities may include but not be limited to increasing minority home ownership and access to other affordable housing, increasing minority business ownership and career opportunities, strategies to grow equity and generational wealth, closing the gaps in health care, education, employment and pay, neighborhood safety and fairness within criminal justice,” the resolution reads.

    What is systemic racism? Here’s what it means and how you can help dismantle it

    Increasing generational wealth should be the focus, supporter says
    The resolution calls on the city to create the Community Reparations Commission, inviting community groups and other local governments to join. It will be the commission’s job to make concrete recommendations for programs and resources to be used.

    Councilwoman Sheneika Smith, who is Black, said the council had gotten emails from those “asking, ‘Why should we pay for what happened during slavery?’”

    “(Slavery) is this institution that serves as the starting point for the building of the strong economic floor for white America, while attempting to keep Blacks subordinate forever to its progress,” Smith said.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/historic-move-north-carolina-city-125936878.html


  42. “This ‘trend’ as you call it has been an enduring burden on the lives of Black Americans for generations… frankly, it is well past time for it to be shouted from the roof tops and bridges endlessly … so let us not create a false narrative that Bajans cannot 1) identify with and embrace that fight and 2) also effectively localize it to energize our struggles against our own long standing discriminatory behaviors.”

    @ dpD

    Sometimes you have a penchant for misrepresenting or misinterpreting other people’s contributions, forming your own opinions and responding accordingly.

    Perhaps it’s YOU who’s “creating a false narrative.” There isn’t anywhere in my contribution I mentioned anything about Bajans CANNOT IDENTIFY with or EMBRACE whatever you wrote.

    Firstly, I mentioned “trend,” within the context of an apparent ‘re-emergence’ of BLM movement, after the death of George Floyd, which has now been recognized world-wide and embraced by Bajans. This enthusiasm has been transferred to calling for the removal of Nelson’s statue.

    Secondly, I’ve also seen videos and read articles highlighting ‘Karens,’ identified as white women who believe their skin colour affords them some sort of special privileges; white bank tellers refusing to change cheques for Black customers and calling the police; white people questioning Black residents of certain neighbourhoods, saying they don’t belong there and calling the police. And others too numerous to mention at this time………..

    ……………… ALL highlighting Black people being RACIALLY DISCRIMINATED AGAINST, which the people or groups responsible for disseminating the information to the public, ASSOCIATE with BLM.

    ‘Pray tell, how can highlighting similar cases of discrimination in Barbados be REASONABLY DESCRIBED as WRONG or PUSHING “a false narrative?”

    Similarly, discrimination “has been an enduring burden on the lives of Black (Barbadians) for generations… frankly, it is well past time for it to be shouted from the roof tops and bridges endlessly.”

    Thirdly, your comment re: “We should be using it as a source of inspiration to our local benefits… as all others around the world are!”……. not only CLEARLY EXPLAINS my comments, it CONTRADICTS the other comments in your contribution as well.

  43. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ Artax
    You said: “ Black hotel guests are more likely to be stopped and questioned by security guards, than white guests…… and more likely to be served in the restaurant AFTER white guest. It’s mainly because we have this ‘instinctive perception’ that ALL tourist are white or straight haired people, while Black people are ‘hustlers, beach-bums, black coral vendors or thieves. This attitude seems to have come from way back in the 60s or 70s into 2020.”

    Thanks again. I can tell you that white (Bajan)gigolos have no problems going into the hotel rooms with the tourist women. However the black gigolos are stopped .
    I know of plenty black Americans tourists who complained of indifferent treatment.
    Remember decades ago how the black prominent Smith family sued the Hilton for discrimination.

    Racism is rampant in the local tourism industry. Always has been.


  44. First, I’m forced to ask if your July 15, 2020 6:40 PM contribution is a response to my 6:06 PM?

    If it is, could you please indicate where in that contribution, I IMPLIED there’s a ‘mutual relationship’ between ‘nepotism’ and ‘discrimination?’

    RE: “Preferential treatment for people who are considered rich customers. It’s the same in every tourist destination. How do you think white people in some places like Geneva kiss the a** of rich Arabs, Asians and even Africans, LOL …”

    Your comment about “preferential treatment” may be true, but it is IRRELEVANT in this case. As a hotel employee, how would go about trying to determine “who are rich” or to whom you would give “preferential treatment,” when a room rate of US$1,500 per night at Fairmont Royal Pavillion, for example, REMAINS the same whether the guests are Black, white, “Arab, Asian and even Africans?”

    RE: “Bad administration. Some expats complained to me that they had to queue for an hour to have their driving licence renewed – in the meantime some relatives of the public officers were allowed to pass them.”

    TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.

    RE: “Harassment of workers. It happens everywhere. In North America and Europe, employers fire employees for 2 dollars, while highly incompetent managers are praised away to the board of directors.”

    Again, your comment may be true, but it’s TOTALLY IRRELEVANT within this context. The examples I presented, are COMPARISONS between how THEFT is DEALT with when two different ethnic groups are involved.

  45. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Excellent Senor @Artax, I interpreted your BLM remarks as counterpoint to the ‘Bajan condition’ so I am glad that in fact you were expressing a strong connection of the struggle to root out oppression and discrimination however it may be manifest…and that we are on the same page.

    English is my only language so it’s quite unfortunate that yet 1) I misinterpreted your remarks so terribly and then 2) was so unclear in my remarks … particularly when I perceived that I was crystal clear. Alas!


  46. n a media release through the Barbados Government Information Service, Chief Medical Officer, Dr Kenneth George, explained earlier today, that following the positive diagnoses of five returning nationals last weekend, a decision was taken to extend the quarantine period of persons seated in close proximity to them.

    And although they would have tested negative twice seven days apart, “they remained under close supervision of the Ministry of Health and Wellness, and were told to self quarantine for another week, out of an abundance of caution”.

    It was on the third examination that the woman tested positive for the coronavirus.

    https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/246692/positive-covid-19-test-repatriation-flight-pushes-total-104

  47. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    The indigenous African in the Americas has the right to be involved in any developmental plans that negatively impacts their quality of life and that of their present and future generations.The African descended in Barbados and the Caribbean should not be deliberately kept in the dark by governments they elected and pay a salary to manage their economy. There should be no secret deals and meetings as it relates to the people’s money in their treasury and pension fund, government ministers should not be doling out taxpayer’s and pensioner’s money by the hundreds of millions of dollars to crooked minorities WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE BLACK POPULATION TO WHOM IT ALL BELONGS.

    ▼Article XXIX. Right to development

    Indigenous peoples have the right to maintain and determine their own priorities with respect to their political, economic, social, and cultural development in conformity with their own cosmovision. They also have the right to be guaranteed the enjoyment of their own means of subsistence and development, and to engage freely in all their economic activities. 2. This right includes the development of policies, plans, programs, and strategies in the exercise of their right to development and to implement them in accordance with their political and social organization, norms and procedures, own cosmovisions, and institutions.
    Indigenous peoples have the right to be actively involved in developing and determining development programs that affect them and, to the extent possible, to administer such programs through their own institutions. 4. 5. States shall consult and cooperate in good faith with the indigenous peoples concerned through their own representative institutions in order to obtain their free and informed consent prior to the approval of any project affecting their lands or territories and other resources, particularly in connection with the development, utilization or exploitation of mineral, water, or other resources.4/ Indigenous peoples have the right to effective measures to mitigate adverse ecological, economic, social, cultural, or spiritual impacts of the implementation of development projects that affect their rights. Indigenous peoples who have been deprived of their means of subsistence and development have the right to restitution and, where this is not possible, to fair and equitable compensation. This includes the right to compensation for any harm caused to them by the implementation of plans, programs, or projects of the State, international financial institutions, or private business.

  48. WURA-War-on-U Avatar

    Both wicked governments allowed cow williams to pick up the people’s water wells as though he owns them, both corrupt governments sat back and allowed this to happen because who ain’t got shares in Apes Hill as ministers/lawyers WHO SHOULD’NT…..corruption….., collected bribes for selling out as usual..

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