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The following article was posted to the Financial Times and will be of interest to the BU family. Discuss for 10 marks.

 

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Barbados creditors fume at ‘absurd’ $27m advisory fees

 

“London-based boutique, White Oak, in line for payout for work on $7bn restructuring

“White Oak’s engagement letter was signed five days after Mia Mottley was sworn in as prime minister last year…”

May 9, 2019 8:30 pm by Colby Smith in New York

A little-known UK advisory firm stands to make about $27m from the restructuring of Barbados’s $7bn of debts — close to what Lazard earned seven years ago when it advised Greece on defaulted debt nearly 40 times bigger.

White Oak Advisory is a small firm with just two partners located opposite Claridge’s hotel in London’s Mayfair. The size of the fee it will receive from its work on the default has outraged the Caribbean island’s creditors.

“The fee is absurd given the size of the debt,” said Sean Newman, an Atlanta-based portfolio manager at Invesco and a member of the external committee of creditors. “I’ve never seen anything like this in my 20 years in the business.”

White Oak was founded a decade ago by Sebastian Espinosa, a former Houlihan Lokey banker, and David Nagoski, an ex-US Treasury Department official. It will earn about $27m from the bankrupt country, according to FT calculations. That is almost double what Ukraine paid for advice on its $18bn restructuring in 2015, according to people familiar with the deals.

The Bajan government hit back at the creditor criticism. “We believe it is excellent value for money given that through their efforts we have saved over $1bn of interest and principal. We would hire [White Oak] again.”

White Oak’s engagement letter indicates that the Bajan government agreed to pay the firm just over $21m for the successful restructuring of its roughly $5bn of domestic debts, excluding arrears. The letter was signed five days after Mia Mottley was sworn in as prime minister on May 25 last year, and two days before the government announced it was defaulting on its debts.

By any metric or rationale, the fee is outsized and unwarranted.

Sean Newman, Invesco
Negotiations with external creditors are ongoing. Once complete, the government is set to pay White Oak about $4m for restructuring approximately $910m of debt owed to foreign investors. The firm is also receiving an $85,000 monthly retainer.

It is likely to take at least another 12 months to finalise the deal, according to another person involved in the negotiations. The additional $2m in monthly fees brings the total payout from Barbados to roughly $27m.

“It is a disproportionate fee for a small country,” said one financial adviser.

“Barbados is not Greece, which had a massive debt stock, multiple debt instruments and huge political tensions,” the financial adviser said. “Double-digit fees are for very large transactions that are super complicated with a large number of instruments and a large number of different creditors.”

White Oak’s partners said the fee was justified because “placing this debt on a sustainable footing has required an unusually complex operation”. Its rates are “among the lowest charged in any Caribbean restructuring, again in relative terms”.

Barbados’s debts came to roughly 160 per cent of gross domestic product at the beginning of the restructuring in June last year, among the highest in the world.

Mr Espinosa and Mr Nagoski point out that their business in the country goes beyond the public restructuring and that they are not charging a fee for additional work. The pair say they are advising Barbados on several commercial contracts, as well as the restructuring of a number of state-owned enterprises and the country’s regional airline, of which the government is the largest shareholder.

However, few Caribbean debt restructurings have paid out fees in the tens of millions to financial advisers in recent years. Citigroup earned roughly $3m restructuring Jamaica’s $9bn of defaulted debts in 2013, and in Belize advisers were paid single-digit millions for the restructuring of more than $525m of debt in 2017, according to people familiar with both deals.

https://www.ft.com/content/164613a4-7234-11e9-bbfb-5c68069fbd15”

 

 


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367 responses to “Two Man White Oak Making 27 Million from Restructuring Deal”

  1. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    They sure are… mini heist of the century with the white hoax scam.

    but ya can bet it WILL NOT OUTDO the emptying out of every bank account that holds the savings of Bajans..which will of course just DISAPPEAR INTO THIN AIR….now that is THE MOST DARING HEIST OF THE CENTURY…


  2. Lordy lordy!
    $27 million + $21 million for local consultants.
    Just another day in Paradise.

  3. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    He’s like de ole man told wunna.

    Mugabe is NOT BRILLIANT!

    She was told what to do to stop the bleeding from the DLP but because she is so wicked and spiteful, she refused to ask what were the steps to be taken AFTER THE FIRST ADVICE WAS GIVEN!!!

    Do you want to see that pixelated information too?

    heheheheh

    Hold strain it will be provided very soon

    heheheheh

    The issue was not really that the Government HAD TO “DEFAULT”, but the manner in which the default was effected

    She did not know that detail because it was not given to her all those months previously

    And Mugabe is too proud to ask.

    I guess you can see now THAT WITH ALL THE FINANCIAL EXPERTS YOU GOT ROUND YOU who got the smarts to get you out this hole Mia.

    And even in this matter of saving the country of Barbados you still doing a ‘lil Ting”???

    5,000 Bajan civil servants going home and people heah purportedly tekking de very kickbacks dat Stinkliar and his crew were being stopped from doing???

    Are you so fvucking Stoopid but no it is more that you are so committedly teifing

    Watch the ensuing Biopics of

    $40 million for a $2 million scanner

    $27 million for a $4 million assignment

    Firing Dat man Nichols cause he purportedly set up a mechanic shop opposite the Transport Board to fix TB buses

    Watch carefully as the list builds

    You mean wunna a.ss.es cud not wait till tings get better for de average po man?

    Leh me tell wunna something

    When de ole man put up pictures of wunna sow pig faces as wunna bloated carcasses grow will poor people sucking salt your asses is grass!!!

    Mugabe is a one fvucking term government

  4. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “Firing Dat man Nichols cause he purportedly set up a mechanic shop opposite the Transport Board to fix TB buses.”

    still wondering if that property next door to Dr. Bannister in Perry Gap which is perpendicular to transport board main yard on the other side of the road…Piece how ya like the old memory..belongs to deceased people and the lawyer…TIEF IT.

    …..up to Saturday about 3 or 4 small transport board buses were parked up in there.

    Definitely worth framing….and taught in schools for the future.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1025135711029301&set=a.626633110879565&type=3&eid=ARAIpETXmV6OJM-diK1-l6gwFDRseevysryF50zjo8SQ8zKl6kp8st7sz-hcYnxwFG2YB6agQvw_bNLb

  5. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Ah so glad Ha, Ha Austin live to see that a REAL journalist from FT…Colby Smith…has the story of a lifetime…ah know that FT knows they had information on their SERVER…from Ha, Ha’s computer…GO FT….this is Nobel Prize material.

  6. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    I posted this the wrong thread earlier

    I got the text WARU. thanks

    @ Theophillus Gazerts

    You have zoomed in on the most important thing here

    “…The White Oaks letter was signed five days after Mia Mottley was sworn in as Prime Minister on May 25 last year, and two days before the government announced it was defaulting on its debts…”

    Many of the people AND ALL OF THE SHEEPLE, missed that point

    The appointment of her father as a knight of the British Empire was a year endeavor

    The appointment of the White Hoax People was at least a year AND THE $27 million fee could not have been negotiated in 5 days!!!

    Mugabe mottley feel Bajans foolish as does here Regime

    #PleasePutMoreGreaseOnYourDoggieMiaItHurtingWe

  7. Fractured BLP Avatar

    And they said the BLP is the best !

    Better than all the rest !

    Blasted Lying People – BLP

  8. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Wuhloss..they thought this would be easy, roll into parliament armed with consultants paid BY TAXPAYERS, setup their scams and BITE BIG CHUNKS OF MILLIONS RIGHT OUT OF THE ECONOMY, right in front of everyone, ya wont even notice….then OFFSHORE everything in their thousands of accounts stretching from UK…right around the globe… ….they so slick…..but they never counted on the shit going SIDEWAYS..

    I do believe ya wicked shit GOING SIDEWAYS is what happens when you spent countless …DECADES SETTING UP EVERYBODY.


  9. White Oaks laughing all the way to the bank
    In the meanwhile govt workers are thrown under the bus
    Barbados social enviroment deteriorates
    This govt is clueless a campagain of lies and deception is turning out to be a govt of terror

  10. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    QUESTIONS

    HOW MANY PEOPLE IN BARBADOS READING BU?
    HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM BARBADOS READING BU?

    SO MANY PEOPLE I TALK TO DONT KNOW OF THE EXISTENCE OF BU?

    HOW WILL BAJANS HERE THERE AND EVERYWHERE—–AND THE ELECTORATE — KNOW ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF MIA’S IGNORANCE INEPTITUDE INABILITY IN THIS MATTER?

    HOW WILL THIS MALFEASANCE BE SOUNDED ABROAD IN BARBADOS AND THE DIASPORA?

    RE Barbados social enviroNment deteriorates TRUE TRUE

    meanwhile govt workers are thrown under the bus NOT TRUE AT ALL CAUSE THERE ARE NO BUSES
    MURDA

    DE DLP CARRY TO THE BRINK
    DE BLP WILL SINK US
    AND SOLUTIONS BARBADOS DONT HAVE NO SOLUTIONS FOR BARBADOS

    I GONE BEFORE I AM TOLD LIKE YESTERDAY……….GP BUT OUT


  11. This story is all over social media. BU is only one outlet on this platform.

    The original story was taken from the FT.

    Over a decade of service to country and counting.

    Poor you.


  12. “………..this is Nobel Prize material.”

    Could you please explain?


  13. It is not nice saying |I told you so. But now an independent voice has raised the issue of our national bankruptcy maybe others will take note.
    Like most serious-minded Barbadians, I was glad to see the grossly incompetent Stuart removed from office on May 24 and was hopeful that the Mottley-led BLP could not possibly do worse.
    But in less than a week in office, the new government defaulted on all our domestic and international debt, and signed a US$85000 a month deal with a little known group of so-called financial advisers to re-negotiate its loan agreements.
    I warned that in the big boys’ world of finance you just cannot do it that way; it may seem logical in a small, inward-looking island, and domestic retail investors may not have any other – or at least few – alternatives but to do a deal with the government; but international lenders have numerous options and they would use them. No surprise that White Oaks demanded monthly payments, rather than at the conclusion of business.
    I immediately said then, and still do, that BERT will fail. That its assumptions were bogus. But more than that: who introduced the government to the idea of defaulting? Who brought in White Oaks as advisers? Was White Oaks known to that person before the deal with Barbados? Did that person get an introductory fee? Is that person now an adviser/consultant to the government? Has that person ever work for White Oaks in any capacity? These are serious questions.
    Equally, the Mottley government came to power on May 24, took office on May 25, and signed an agreement (in US dollars) on May 30. This suggests lots of things, including a premeditated strike, that Ms Motley and her senior advisers were already in talks BEFORE the general election. In the UK or US that would have been a treasonable offence.
    Then we had the large scale redundancies, the fabricated claims of foreign reserves (if you are not paying your bills of course your reserves will build up).
    I also warned that the nonsense of foreign reserves came out of 1960s economic theory, a paradigm, that changed with the father of monetary theory in the 1970s. I said that modern creditors would sell their loan books (banks, mortgage and credit card lenders, etc do so every day) to vulture funds at discounted rates who would then enforce the full loans through US courts if necessary. Non payment would mean every asset Barbados owns outside Barbados would be seized.
    This is exactly what I suggested to Mr Barrack some time ago and was ignored. The Bds$80m the government owed him should have been sold at a discount, on the basis of $50m in his hands was more than a promise of $80m from Sinckler. But his advisers obviously told him differently.
    It is fine for keyboard warriors to come on BU and pontificate on things they know nothing about, but the situation in Barbados is very serious indeed and, against my better judgement, could lead to social strife.
    A year in from the general election is not too late to re-visit our huge debt mountain. The Mottley-government is not in control as it pretends to be. Things are already out of control. We are facing anarchy.


  14. DE DLP CARRY TO THE BRINK
    DE BLP WILL SINK US
    AND SOLUTIONS BARBADOS DONT HAVE NO SOLUTIONS FOR BARBADOS
    #####
    And in all of this, ordinary Bajans look on, powerless to decide on a direction for the country, trapped in the undemocratic system of ‘Westminster style representative democracy’, where once you’ve cast your vote, your power is spent for the next 5 years. Unable to work out a strategy because we don’t have the information we need.

    People from the IMF tell us we have to take the austerity medicine, because we’re in a debt crisis but no-one can explain who we owe, how much and why. No one can explain where 70% of the BD$10 billion GDP goes. No-one can explain why we’re in a crisis but private interests have savings of BD$8 billion (80% of GDP) sitting in bank accounts. No one can explain why every year tourist arrivals hit a new high but we can’t afford to run an efficient and affordable public transport system. We are so broke that we taking the food out of ordinary workers’ mouths but can find BD$54 million to give two rich men.

    Think about it………


  15. @Tee White,

    What do you propose to replace the ‘Westminster’ model?

  16. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Artax…google noble prize…i do believe journalists are also in line for Noble awards…not to be CONFUSED with the peace prize, such an easy error to make.

    I thought the question ya would be asking is…what happens next…….???.

    Not some nonsense question to set yaself up to seem and look frivilous.

  17. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “This suggests lots of things, including a premeditated strike, that Ms Motley and her senior advisers were already in talks BEFORE the general election. In the UK or US that would have been a treasonable offence.”

    Wuhloss…which means the same demons brought back hanging…just in time.


  18. not trying to be flippant- but a country deserves the Govt it gets

  19. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Wuhloss..watch Dale whistleblower nackaway from his inflated 40 million dollar lie, probably had a vision of that 740 million US follar prison that healso inflated.

    So which one will comeout and CONFESS that the US85,000 of taxpayers dollars to White Hoax IS ALSO AN INFLATED LIE…it wont be so easy to wiggle out of that inflated lie though…wuhloss Piece.

    “Scanners ‘not costing $40 million’
    RACHELLE AGARD, rachelleagard@nationnews.com

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    Attorney General Dale Marshall. (Picture by Sandy Pitt.)

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    The new scanners earmarked for the Bridgetown Port are not costing $40 million, says Attorney General Dale Marshall.


    In an exclusive interview with the Weekend Nation following Wednesday’s 143rd passing out parade and graduation ceremony at the Regional Police Training Centre, he sought to set the record straight on a controversy that was brewing.

    Last week, Marshall announced Government had committed $40 million to get two new scanners in order to make sure the island’s security environment was not compromised. He was speaking at the first Caribbean Basin Security Initiative (CBSI) conference at Radisson Aquatica Hotel.

    Following his revelation, commentators took to social media and questioned why a scanner was costing so much, and if it could not be purchased on the website Amazon at a much cheaper rate. (RA)”


  20. it’s you who continues to make yourself frivolous, (while reinforcing your admission of being a self-confessed liar), by presenting information to mislead the forum. And when you’re “caught out,” you resort to your defensive mode of trying to “insult your way out.”

    Since Jackie Stewart said the government “set-up” the DEA, you seem to can’t get over using the phrase, because nowadays, almost everything you post must include “set-up.”

    Just goes to show you can’t think for yourself and must use other people’s ideas and piggy back on them.

    Anyhow, the “Nobel Prize” is awarded in areas such as chemistry, physics, medicine, literature, economic sciences and peace.

    How can the author of a simple story about White Oaks, which is common knowledge, could be eligible for a “Nobel Prize?”


  21. Do not act surprised, You ALL were warned of the Crooks, Liars, and Scumbags of the DLp and the BBLP , Yet you support crime and the crime of the Crime Minister and had a good on those who spoke the truth, Enjoy yourself, We keep telling you that More Pain to come. Its not over until; you vote them out the last 30 of the first 30 down and 30 to go, Cant keek JOBBY in the BOWL forever you have to Flush some time!
    Stop the long talking and take Action to your little greedy lawyer brains and remove them ALL, not even one is any dammm good or use,You all always has to wait for on white words and print to have an opinion, Slaves for Life!

  22. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Too sweet not to correct errors.

    Wuhloss..watch Dale whistleblower BACKING AWAY from his inflated 40 million DOLLAR LIE, probably had a vision of that 740 million US dollar prison that he also inflated a big lie to syphon and funnel kickbacks..and realized he still has not paid for that crime.

  23. GEORGIE PORGIE Avatar
    GEORGIE PORGIE

    re This story is all over social media. THANKS FOR TELLING ME I DONT WASTE TIME ON SOCIAL MEDIA
    SIR

    The original story was taken from the FT. AS AN ISLAND SCHOLAR I WAS ABLE TO DISCERN THAT SIR

    Over a decade of service to country and counting. YES GREAT ENTERTAINMENT MAINLY
    WITH RESPECT TO SERVICE I HAVE CONTRIBUTED GREAT INFORMATION ON SEVERAL AREAS OF MEDICINE AND THEOLOGY…FORGET

    Poor you.NOT POOR AT ALL SIR

    MY FATHER God owns the cattle on a thousand hills AS TAUGHT IN Psalm 50:10–11, AND HE HAS BEEN PROVIDING FOR ME VERY WELL IN MANY RESPECTS SIR.
    .
    BUT WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE THESE ARE ALL REASONABLE QUESTIONS ASKED BY A RATIONAL INTELLIGENT PERSON FOR A GENUINE LEGITIMATE PURPOSE

    HOW MANY PEOPLE IN BARBADOS READING BU?
    HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM BARBADOS READING BU?

    SO MANY PEOPLE I TALK TO DONT KNOW OF THE EXISTENCE OF BU?

    HOW WILL BAJANS HERE THERE AND EVERYWHERE—–AND THE ELECTORATE — KNOW ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF MIA’S IGNORANCE INEPTITUDE INABILITY IN THIS MATTER?

    HOW WILL THIS MALFEASANCE BE SOUNDED ABROAD IN BARBADOS AND THE DIASPORA?

    I ADD TO THESE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND OR READ THE FINANCIAL TIMES

    IS THIS INFORMATION IN THE LOCAL MEDIA?


  24. Shhhhhhhh….. Heist in progress, loose lips sink ships, Rev. Atherley will take care of wunnah concerns. Don’t look now but isn’t FT a foreign newspaper? Those overseas bajans who aint got nothing to do but criticize Mia and Co probably alerted FT and dem blasted people put out this article to embarrass the Gov’t. Look we all know that when it comes to financials people make mistakes and take it from me (would I lie to you?) that 27 million is an editing mistake, the figure is actually 2.7 million.

    There you have it folks, now have a good day.

  25. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “How can the author of a simple story about White Oaks, which is common knowledge, could be eligible for a “Nobel Prize?””

    Good…as long as you are busy…cause ya are not ready to get serious yet…we left you behind over a year ago…ya look good in that location..stay there.

    And since YOU KNOW WHO Jackie got the info from….there is no longer any reason to even engage you….ya just wasted ya own time..as usual.

  26. PoorPeacefulandPolite Avatar
    PoorPeacefulandPolite

    Tough medication was necessary for you beggars to keep the Bds dollar from sliding down the hole. Was the luxury of picking a poison available? So the where were you when your own solution was called for? Talk is much cheaper for sure !!

  27. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    WHAT A GOOD CONSPIRARY THEORY…………..OR JUST A CONSPIRACY FOR WICKED EVIL LIED overseas bajans who aint got nothing to do but criticize Mia and Co TO alert FT and dem blasted people put out this article to embarrass the Gov’t.

    QUESTIONS
    HOW YOU KNOW THAT UM IS overseas bajans who aint got nothing to do DAT DO THIS? YOU DO UM?

    IS IT WRONG FOR overseas bajans who aint got nothing to do OR ANY BAJANS TO criticize Mia and Co?

    DID overseas bajans who aint got nothing to do ALERT FT OR DID THEY probably alert FT.

    WHY ARE THE FT CONSIDERED TO BE “dem blasted people” FOR putTING out this article to embarrass the Gov’t? DONT THE GOVERNMENT WANT EMBARRASING?

    HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE FIGURE is actually 2.7 million.AND that 27 million is an editing mistake, WERE YOU PART OF THE DEAL?

    JUST ASKING SIR

  28. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Bullshit as usual…bring back the 120,000 OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS…debtors will be paid…and the dollar will slide NOWHERE…

    That should also have been one of the first things president Mia did, but she didn’t did she….she too love to watch bajans suffer and tell them how much they need to sacrifice…but the thieves are sacrificing nothing…they are all bloated and and obese…..cause they have no plans to lock up each other….but someone will have to…

    Cause it’s written in the stars…just like REAL royal bloodlines.


  29. @GP

    Don’t you recognize sarcasm?


  30. @Hal
    What do you propose to replace the ‘Westminster’ model?
    ####
    I personally think we need a participatory democratic system in which the mass of Bajans are the decision makers and are involved in making the decisions that affect our lives. I am particularly interested in how we can apply to the modern context some of the principles of the practice of traditional African democracy, such as society having a responsibilty for the wellbeing of the individual and the individual having an equal responsibility for the wellbeing of society, consensus building rather than adversarial conflict in handling issues and the use of rational discussion to solve problems. Kwasi Wiredu’s Democracy and Consensus in African Traditional Politics – A Plea for a Non-party Polity and Ajaegbo’s African Democratic Heritage: A Historical Case Study of the Igbo of Nigeria outliine these ideas in greater detail.

  31. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Wuhloss…CAN’T BACK AWAY from the WHITE HOAX LIE THOUGH…what a thing..

    https://www.facebook.com/jackie.stewart.965/videos/978133995729473/?t=0


  32. @ Tee White

    280000 people cannot be involved in making decisions of state. That power of decision-making is delegated to 30 members of parliament, who in turn delegate some of that power to the government.
    On November 30, 1966, at midnight Britain passed sovereignty to the people of Barbados; not to the prime minister; not to parliament; not to the governor general; but to the people, so, under the Westminster model, sovereignty lies in the people and is delegated as explained above. When the people lose faith in parliament and the government they vote them out.
    If you forget the background noise and look at the constitutional arrangements surrounding Brexit, you will see the great strength of the Westminster model, it is people power.
    280000 people cannot sign treaties, introduce new legislation, be represented at international forums, etc. That power must be delegated. Under our system it is.
    Apart from the ‘traditional’ system (traditional to what or who?), would you like an executive predental system, an Electoral College, proportional representation, what?
    I won’t go in to the nonsense about a Republic etc which are irrelevant and the political illiteracy of the two-party system..

  33. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    And the nonsense continues:
    Stuart signing Cahill
    Mottley within 5 days signing White Oaks

    Let’s enjoy Crop Over and tomorrow (Saturday) our pudding and souse and cool aid
    DLP Cahill……..BLP White Oaks……..

    Cool aid in perpetual supply . Drink up !!!

  34. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Area of Greece =50,949 mi²

    Population of Greece = 10.7 MILLION

    Area of Barbados = 166 sq mi

    Population of Barbados = BARELY 290 THOUSAND

    president Mia’s first order of business was a white hoax broad daylight heist…..

    2nd order of business, the port scammers……which Dale Whistleblower HAS SINCE backed the hell away from…

    It appears president Enuff…before comparing GREECE with microscopic Barbados…did not have this information…or did not understand it…

    what can i say…when ya go into places like West Africa and interfere with their descendants in Barbados…all ya will SETUP YASELF TO DO IS …TIEF, TIEF, TIEF……now i know yall were getting a HAUNTING from all the dead people AND THEIR BENEFICIARIES… yall ROBBED over the decades…from the 1940s….but ya see interfering with a West African descendant….ya entered the realm of no return…hope ya have fun going forward..

  35. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Barbados is a racist, apartheid shithole….maybe now yall will make those changes and STOP IT FROM HAPPENING…because ya lowlife black governments make money , nuff bribes and kickbacks from keeping racism and apartheid IN PLAY, everyone is talking about the nasty racism, especially the informed whites who have witnessed the wicked GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED practice on the island..and cannot believe BLACK, SMALL ISLAND GOVERNMENTS…COULD BE THAT BARBARIC.


  36. @Hal
    so, under the Westminster model, sovereignty lies in the people
    ###
    This is quite simply inaccurate. In the Westminster model,as most people know, sovereignty, or supreme power, is vested in the Crown in Parliament and not in the people. Therefore with regard to governance, the decision making power comes from the royal prerogative of the Crown which is exercised by the Prime Minister, the cabinet and the Governor General and from the laws passed in parliament. The people’s voice is absent. They cannot instruct their so-called representatives to vote in any particular way, they have no power to initiate legislation and they have no power to recall even a representative they are unhappy with, let alone dismiss a government until the Prime Minister, using their royal prerogative powers, calls a new election. Once they leave the ballot box, their decision making power within this system is spent. This is why, within this system, governments can do what they like and the people can’t do anything to stop them.

    Even the constitution of Barbados makes this situation clear. It states in Chapter VI, Section 63:
    (1) The executive authority of Barbados is vested in Her Majesty.
    (2) Subject to the provisions of this Constitution, the executive authority of Barbados may be exercised on behalf of Her Majesty by the Governor-General either directly or through officers subordinate to him.

    The system of representative democracy was born in England in the aftermath of the English civil war and for most of its life it has operated without universal suffrage. This is something that has been forced on it by the struggles of the mass of people all over the world but even this hasn’t been enough to overcome its fundamentally undemocratic nature.

    As further evidence of where sovereignty lies in the Barbados constitution, take a look at the oaths. The oath of allegiance that MPs have to swear reads, “I,…………, do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Her Heirs and Successors, according to law. So help me God”. While the oath of allegiance for judges makes it even clearer where sovereignty lies in the constitutional arrangements in Barbados. It reads, “I,………., do swear that I will well and truly serve Our Sovereign Lady Queen Elizabeth II, Her Heirs and Successors, in the office of Chief Justice/Justice of Appeal/Judge of the High Court and I will do right to all manner of people after the laws and usages of Barbados without fear or favour, affection or ill will. So help me God.

    No one is suggesting that 280,000 people sign a treaty and it’s silly to even bring such an idea into a serious discussion. If we allow ourselves to think that only Europeans can devise political systems, we will end up going around in circles like we are now. The issue is that it is perfectly possible for the broad population of Barbados to be involved over a period of time in formulating the prgramme of action for the government, to elect a governemnt from among their ranks tasked with carrying out this programme and to hold those eleccted offcials to account through the power of oversight and the legal right to instruct and recall them. The fact that Europeans didn’t come up with such a system doesn’t mean it can’t work.


  37. I now catching up.
    Here we go again. Scanner Gate over and now we on to White Oak. I told wunna go and listen to the PM Budget speech and I refused to comment any further. Again I ask, will the IMF allow the government to borrow (yes the Port borrowing and I refused to mention that too) to tief and under an IMF programme?
    On WO now, if I were involved in a debt restructure I would raise as much issues related to cost to get the best deal for my client too. #iamnotasalemite


  38. Globally, when there is no tendering on large public contracts (where we, the public must pay), corruption can reasonably be assumed.

    The general excuse given by those bent on pursuing corrupting no-bid contracts is that there is no time to tender for the specialist work. That is a weak excuse.

    If the work is highly specialized work, then the pool of companies that do that work is known. It takes the same amount of time to provide a tender to one of those specialist companies as it would to several of them.

    What we can expect to happen now is foreseen.

    The DLP’s supporters will once again accuse the BLP of gross corruption.
    The BLP’s supporters will counter by accusing the DLP of gross corruption over the past ‘lost’ 10 years.
    We will all forget about it and pay the increased taxes to pay for another excessive no-bid contract.

  39. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Yall can’t very well TIEF now can ya…tooo many lights are on…ya only got away with WHITE HOAX because ya had it planned WELL IN ADVANCE…

  40. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Wuhloss…ah wonder who tell Jackie BLP government set up DEA in the 90s…

    https://www.facebook.com/jackie.stewart.965/videos/1025385254337680/?t=0

  41. Barbados Underground Whistleblower Avatar
    Barbados Underground Whistleblower

    But more than that: who introduced the government to the idea of defaulting? Who brought in White Oaks as advisers? Was White Oaks known to that person before the deal with Barbados? Did that person get an introductory fee? Is that person now an adviser/consultant to the government? Has that person ever work for White Oaks in any capacity? These are serious questions.
    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

    SPOT ON.

  42. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    Well…what can i say…the WHITE HOAX scam is no joke….ah wonder what UK got to say, they better START INVESTIGATING….

    https://www.facebook.com/jackie.stewart.965/videos/1025337084342497/?t=0


  43. This exposé offers a better understanding of why there was So little enthusiasm for the investigation of and if necessary, prosecution of members of the last government for financial malfeasance.

    Now, who would have the International connections to source this ”Whitewater” firm and the political clout to influence the BLP into taking this action? Could it be someone who was influential enough to cause the recent change to the constitution? Or, could it be another financial guru who appeared as a savior from ”Paradise”? Whatever the answer, I hope that ”Whitewater” is smart enough to pay commissions in Bit Coin – I’ve heard that it is harder to trace.

  44. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ Tee White

    You said and I quote

    “…I personally think we need a participatory democratic system in which the mass of Bajans are the decision makers and are involved in making the decisions that affect our lives…”

    Participatory Democracy in the world complimented by the Internet of things is really a very easy thing considering that IoT has evolved to a point where the full production cycle can be recorded from the planting of batch A mango seeds to the tome you eat the fruit in your house.

    In truth while it will present a situation where “no MAN shall buy or sell without a number”, it is possible to plot a social/economic plan for say an at risk group of Single Frmale heads of Household and monitoring their status remotely over time, measuring interdictions and adjusting the interactions based on input by the mothers

    If we were to extend that to the PD spectrum and define then prioritize the needs of a citizenry, theoretically we could have a system where you could see the most egregious potholes, or most inefficient Polyclinic or other PD priority.

    But such a system WILL NEVER EXIST IN BARBADOS so let us move on smartly.

    Just look how 2 scanners cost $40 million and services are 7 times the cost for financial advisors and not a feller ent picking dem teeth so such efficiency will never be implemented here


  45. Tee White

    another substantive post even though what Hal posited had merit. the public as a mass are fools and sometimes have to be led but all political decisions should benefit a majority of the people.

    yes we can devise and should devise our own system of governance that reflects who we are and where we want to go as a society.


  46. @Sargeant

    Have you read the Nation news report? To fully clarify this matter the minister cannot flippantly dismiss the loose communication which has brought us here. The management of Port Inc should be in a position to verify if the minister is correct. They will never say. Barbadians are being asked to make heavy sacrifice in an austere environment, how the government communicates with its public must be treated with care. Bear in mind they are those on the sideline seeing unfolding events as entertainment and will use social media with their popcorn.


  47. @ Tee White,

    I have said on BU on a number of occasions, that many Barbadians talk about the Westminster model, but few understand it. Sovereignty rests in the people, not the Crown in t, or the prime minister of the Supreme court or Mickey Mouse.
    Parliament gets its authority from that vote people cast every four to five years; and the government (the Crown) gets its powers from parliament.
    That is our representative democracy. Under the Westminster model we do not elect a prime minister; members of parliament are there to represent their constituencies (the representative bit), not a political party. Electors can instruct their representatives to vote in a particular way, but the representatives do not have to obey – until the next election. That is why most parties publish manifestos – a social compact.
    Prime minsters do not have any constitutional powers to call a general election. If the prime minister goes to the Queen (or her representative) to call a general election and another member of parliament can command a majority, that person can persuade the Queen not to call a general election, but to remove the prime minster and appoint someone else.
    Forget about the Barbados constitution. I know nothing about it. I am talking about the Westminster model, which clearly you have got wrong. I am sure some of our best lawyers share your incorrect views about what the Westminster model represents. The oath of office is to the Crown, if Barbados was a Republic it would be to the Republic.
    To repeat, sovereignty rests in the people and is delegated to parliament and parliament delegates some of that power to the majority party that can get its programme through parliament; members of that majority party then elect/decide on a prime minister.
    The people of Barbados can decide for themselves what form of government they prefer, but the Westminster model is as I have outlined.
    As I have also said, put aside the background noise about Brexit, this is exactly the constitutional play we are witnessing – a battle between the May government and parliament, with parliament being determined to take back control from the Cabinet (and rightly so).
    It is an argument for constitutionalists, not lawyers.

  48. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item of drivel here


  49. RE: “Good…as long as you are busy…cause ya are not ready to get serious yet…we left you behind over a year ago…ya look good in that location..stay there.

    NONSENSE!!!!!

    Rather than explain how the article is “Nobel Prize material, or admit you were wrong…………you have gone on to some nonsense that is totally irrelevant to the simple question.

    You don’t know anything about the White Oaks fiasco other than what is already in the public domain. And, as is the norm with you, you’re regurgitating what you read and applying your usual innuendo to give us the impression you were actually privy to the information.

    RE: “And since YOU KNOW WHO Jackie got the info from….there is no longer any reason to even engage you….ya just wasted ya own time..as usual.”

    There you go, lying again. You can’t help it. You are a fraud and a liar.

    Please indicate to me where in any of my contributions I mentioned anything about knowing “WHO Jackie got the info from?”

    You are one dishonest b****, who likes to use other people’s information as though it originated with you.

    FRAUD!!!

  50. WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog Avatar
    WARU, Crazy & Unstable, Hogging the Blog

    “Again I ask, will the IMF allow the government to borrow (yes the Port borrowing and I refused to mention that too) to tief and under an IMF programme?”

    IMF already mentioned yall TIEFING…ya have no right with million dollar consultants..AT TAXPAYERS’S EXPENSE…..what the hell does a finance minister need a consultant for…yall think IMF STUPID.

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