The Grenville Phillips Column – Brace for the Consequences

My last article on Barbados’ vote against the US received sufficient feedback to justify a further explanation.  Some felt that it was simply a case of the US bullying another country, and Barbados’ courageous stand against the US’ offensive threats of retaliation against countries who dared not vote with it.  But is this true?
In assessing claims of truth, we should evaluate evidence.  What is the available evidence?  The US decided to move its Israel embassy to Jerusalem.  Israel did not object.  However, the UN objected and tried to force the US to change its decision.  It did this by crafting a non-binding resolution to condemn the US before all nations at the UN General Assembly.

This type of targeted sanction is normally reserved for nations committing highly offensive actions, like genocide.  The US objected to being singled out for this type of sanction, and the US responded by noting those who voted to condemn it, in order to re-evaluate their friendship agreements.  This is not bullying, rather, it is a response to being bullied.

What is Barbados’ bullying experience with voting against US interests in Israel?  I have found no evidence that Barbados has ever been bullied into voting the way that the US votes.  The evidence shows that every year, it is typical that 100% of our votes are against the way that the US and Israel votes, and this has never put our friendship with the US at any risk.  So why are some claiming that the US bullies us when there is no evidence whatsoever to support such a claim?  Perhaps we are being manipulated.

Let us now address this last UN vote.  This vote was unlike anything that we have ever done as an independent nation.  It was not the typical vote that targeted an issue favourable to Israel or the Palestinians, this was a massive vote directly targeting the US for international condemnation.  That is why the US Ambassador issued her unprecedented warning, which persons have mis-defined as bullying.  This is the first and only time since our independence that we have ever put our friendship with the US in such jeopardy.
To put this in perspective, let us assume that China was singled out for severe criticism at the UN on human rights abuses, and China warned Barbados not to disrespect them before all nations.  Would our principled UN representatives vote to publically embarrass China?  Probably not.

Guyana is currently trying to exploit significant oil reserves in waters disputed by Venezuela.  In my opinion, Guyana has a strong case, but let us assume that Guyana was singled out for criticism at the UN for this action, and they asked us not to disrespect them before all nations.  Would we vote to publically embarrass our Caribbean friend and neighbour?  Probably not.  Why not?  Because we are principled hypocrites?  No.  Because that is not how we treat our friends.  But perhaps it is how we treat perceived enemies.

Errol Barrow summarised our foreign policy as friends of all and satellites of none.  It seems that we are being manipulated into adding … and enemies of the US.  The question is why?

Some have justified our vote by claiming that we have no beneficial relationship with the US, and therefore, nothing to lose by derisively criticising the US in front of all other nations.  This is simply not true.  Barbados is a highly favoured trading partner with the US.  Barbados does not just have a good trading (double-taxation) agreement with the US, or a very good trade agreement like that of Trinidad and Tobago who had an active US military base at the time. We have a rare exceptionally favourable (to Barbados) trading agreement with the US. It is almost unheard of internationally and it is the envy or every country that learns of it.

Being the 2014 winner of the National Innovation Competition, I train groups of individuals, free of cost, to start and grow profitable businesses.  Participants learn to trade with the US and take advantage of this highly beneficial (to Barbados) trade agreement, with direct access to the largest consumer market on the planet.  So I know of what I write.

We are currently on the brink of economic ruin.  The main thing that may keep Barbadians from losing their mortgaged homes, and out of dire poverty if we are surrendered to the IMF, is that favourable trade agreement.  Regrettably, we carelessly treated our friendship with the US with reckless indifference.

Our representatives’ excuse that we were just voting on principle in support of International Law, seems to confirm that they simply misread the UN vote as just another typical vote against Israel’s interests.  The US Ambassador’s uncharacteristic warnings should have prompted them to take a closer look.

So, if we could do it all over again, then how should we have voted?  In my opinion, the most appropriate course of action for complex disputes where we do not have all of the facts, is to abstain from voting.  We should remember that when a vote was taken to give the Palestinians non-member observer state status in the UN in 2012, Barbados did not get involved in the dispute and simply abstained from voting.

The approximately 70-year Arab-Israel dispute qualifies as complex.  Adding a bilateral agreement between the US and Israel that is of concern to the UN further complicates an already complex issue.  Therefore, the most appropriate course of action in the interest of all Barbadians was to abstain from voting.  Eight of our Caribbean neighbours voted in the interests of their citizens and did just that.

Most Barbadians are completely unaware of the grave danger that our UN representatives have now placed us.  If we actually misread the vote as I am charitably assuming, then the damage can be repaired.  However, if it was intentional, then they should have at least warned us to brace for the likely consequences.

So my main point is that if we feel disrespected by another country at the UN, we should vote for the best interest of Barbadians.  If we feel bullied, we should vote for the best interest of Barbadians.  If the US bullies or does not bully another nation, we should vote for the best interest of Barbadians.  If the Palestinians want to establish a runway in Gaza and a central bank in the West Bank, we should vote for the best interests of Barbadians.  In my opinion, our recent vote was not in the best interest of Barbadians.  I am willing to be convinced otherwise with additional evidence.

The only reason why we should not vote for our own self-interests is if there is genocide and the like in another country.  Otherwise, we should do what every other country at the UN does – vote for the self-interests of our citizens, and be wary of being manipulated into voting for the interests of others at the expense of our citizens.

Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer, an analyst of history, and the founder of Solutions Barbados.  He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

162 comments

  • millertheanunnaki

    @ John January 5, 2018 at 8:31 PM
    “Understand exactly what you are saying and realized the music was composed specifically to create the effect to which you refer at an extremely difficult time in history.”

    Then Dear John, you can also relate to and appreciate “Negro Spirituals” and songs like “Ol’ Man River” and “Summertime”, can’t you Sir John?

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  • The Negro Spirituals were sung in praise of God.

    Of course they would be moving.

    They were after all Gospel Music.

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  • Hal Austin January 5, 2018 at 8:33 AM #
    John January 5, 2018 at 8:02 AM #
    When did Golden Apples arrive in Barbados and why have we failed to capitalise on them. I once played cricket against a Grenadian national team, a friendly game, and we got Golden Apple juice at lunchtime. It was delicious.
    By the way, the prime minister got me out with his spin. I tried hitting him out of the ground for the delight of the television cameras and gave him an easy return.
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spondias_dulcis

    Native to Melanesia and Polynesia.

    Brought to Jamaica in 1782.

    “S. dulcis has been introduced into tropical areas across the world. It was brought to Jamaica in 1782, and it is cultivated in Panama, Cuba, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Trinidad and Tobago, and eastern Sucre in Venezuela. The United States Department of Agriculture received seeds from Liberia in 1909, but it did not become a popular crop in the US. Nevertheless, it is grown in South Florida as far north as Palm Beach County.The fruit is also widely grown in Somalia’s agriculture belt, probably introduced during the colonial times preceding 1960.[4]”

    Pretty sure I have seen Golden Apple Juice at the supermarket.

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  • Bernard Codrington

    John at 8 : 31 PM

    Thanks for the upload. I do understand what I am saying and the upload confirms it. Compare the enthusiasm of the crowd and the inspired look on their faces compared to when the official National Anthem is played. It has become a staple.

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  • Not even Melania is taking the man igrunt Christians, like stinking Georgie Porgie, profess was appointed by some mystery god.

    She aint giving him any pokerts!

    LOL!

    He sleeping alone and eating cheeseburgers, watching Fox News and tweeting. What a sick bitch!

    Not an effing report this imbecile could study, far less tens of substantial documents in one night.

    We don’t know what kind of a woman would let an asshole like him into her good graces

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  • Hey John

    You have me here on tenterhooks you failed to answer the question and enquiring minds want to know “When did Golden Apples arrive in Barbados” and you just went to wiki and lifted a response where Barbados is not listed but Jamaica is, maybe the editors think Barbados is part of Jamaica.

    BTW these are sold in the Supermarkets here as June Plums but I also heard a Jamaican refer to them as Jew Plums and sure enough they are also known as Jew Plums.

    Could you also answer the query “why have we failed to capitalise on them”?

    The blog can always use another polymath as Bushy is being put out to pasture.

    BTW Put your thinking cap on soon to come are questions on “Cashews” and “Fat Pork”

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  • I see black people still do not understand nor believe that we ARE THE ORIGINAL HEBREWS! We are the children of the promised land, the chosen. We the blacks. The Askhenazim know it and hate us for knowing that we know. Carry on smartly, all ye tools.

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  • Thank so much Mr. Philipps for touching this subject. You Sir are courageous and on point!

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  • Stepping it up a notch,
    Political grandstanding on both sides of the fence.
    Did not the UN created the State of Is- ra- el. (ISis, sun RA, El god) designating its boundaries? Was Jerusalem included? Isn’t the dispute between two different ideologies and beliefs and peoples and still expect a conversion/acceptance of one towards the other?

    If the UN has given observer status to the Palestinians and not membership then the onus is on the UN to contain Israel from breaching its “contract ” . Any violation/ crimes against humanity must ensue the power of the Security Council, and on Humanitarian rights grounds DEFEND the Palestinians from Israel’s expansion into and occupation of Palestine…. did they?

    The Vote allows an extended arms reach of Israel into Palestine and to build “allies” for its next move… conquer Jerusalem by all means necessary, obviously being given the “right of way” by 128 nations Barbados included.

    Pawns of the War Games, the connection to CERN

    Who benefits?…
    What race were they whose 16-80 ft skeletons are being found, the roll they played in that region which the “caliphate” seeks to conquer for what purpose? … Its the whole MIDDLE EAST including NORTHERN AFRICA, and where are the conflicts at present? …much exist beneath the soil.

    Two videos tell the tale

    What is it that is seen WITHIN the final opening.

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  • Golden Apples

    Jamaica got them in 1782, a bit earlier than Breadfruit and also from the Pacific.

    The fruit produces seeds unlike breadfruit so easier to transport.

    Breadfruit grows from the root so plants need to be transported.

    Jamaica had a much larger population of slaves than Barbados so I would imagine it took priority and the trees spread from there around the caribbean.

    Golden Apple Juice and the fruit are sold in the supermarkets … they are being commercially exploited.

    I Googled Fat pork and got this.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysobalanus_icaco

    All over the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico on beaches.

    Interestingly in Africa they are also found inland.

    Cashews

    Not sure if this is the same cashew as in Barbados but they are native to Brazil.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cashew

    Could imagine the Gulf Stream transporting cashew seeds throughout the Caribbean and even across to Africa.

    If the answers are available by googling seems sensible to use it.

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  • @ bajans January 5, 2018 at 10:28 PM #
    That is the single most important statement ever to have been made to black Bajan brass bowls in ANY fora.

    It is the genesis of brass bowlery.
    It explains the complete failure of our shiite eddykashun system
    It explains people like John and GP.

    Unfortunately, without a whacker or some such instrument, it is not even possible to grasp what you have said.

    @ Pacha
    The people that BBE selected as their ‘chosen people’ do not even know who they are… indeed, the brass bowls see themselves as the dregs of the earth. They have dropped all their special traditions and aspire only to be like the most ‘unchosen’ that there is…

    What you need to understand about the word ‘chosen’ is that it needs to be qualified by …”chosen for what purpose…”

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  • lawson January 6, 2018 at 5:25 AM #
    if the outdoor lifestyle is the reason for the hike in skin cancer I cannot understand why it isnt even higher in barbados,,,, It seems every bajan I meet.. claims to be outstanding in his field.
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    How many Bajans do you meet who are not obese?

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  • ….. plus, no deserts or war.

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    Perhaps some of the BU commentators are unaware that the government of Israel are trying to drum up support from impoverished countries, such as Barbados, by offering them financial incentives provided they are prepared to accept Jerusalem as the de facto capital of Israel.

    Expect more stories like this.

    Never put your trust in so-called leaders;they will always disappoint you. They have the morals of a serpent.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    They are all snakes and serpents, the serpents in israel are desperate, their heads should be removed, pure evil…

    Look John Liesalot….just as yall demons deserve…it can only get worsem not better.

    “if the outdoor lifestyle is the reason for the hike in skin cancer I cannot understand why it isnt even higher in barbados…

    Ah glad ya cant understand it….it’s the minority few whites or those with enough of the cancerous bloodlines numbering 7,500 on the island have high incidences of cancer all over their tails that they hide and try to cover up and scrub off.

    …..and imagine the fake jews are always covered from head to toe in layers of musty smelling clothes in isnotrael, but the melanoma is dropping them like flies.

    BTW….don’t look for any house negros to enlighten ya about the why, they dont know either, it’s a need to know and they are too treacherous, only certain black people are aware, I sure as hell wont tell ya though.

    Stay there and rot from cancer…lol

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  • Israel is a very small country.

    It is surrounded for the most part -at least on three sides- by powerful oil rich countries.

    Since 1948 these countries have not defeated them in war, even once.

    Why is this? Have you all ever thought about that?

    Since all of wunna long talkers of Israel hatred who seek the destruction of Israel, why cant wunnah take them down—-except by wunnah inconsequential verbal diarrhoea.

    Now GP is evidence of the failure of our educational system because he has read the Bible, believes what it says, and has read Psalm 126:6 which says Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.

    Now the Bible predicts that the day will come when the kings of the north- thought by eschatologists to be Russia and Iran- will come down to fight Israel. Go read the result in the Bible.

    The Bible also predicts that the day will come when the kings of the south and the kings of the east will come for their whipping too. It should be fun!

    Until then you all can bark and bray, scoff and mock and talk as much shite as you like, cause wunnah cant change one thing about what is going on. Not one single thing.

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  • Archmaester Bushie

    You are well aware that we do not share your conclusions in this area

    However, you must also know that we have the ultimate respect for your explanations of the ways you see your own spirituality, even in fundamental disagreement.

    To us, yours is not a spirituality rooted is unchallenged nonsense, like the other scribes here tend to be.

    But we respectfully disagree nonetheless.

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ John January 6, 2018 at 10:20 AM #
    ….. plus, no deserts or war.

    That’s a non-sequitur. First it was the lack of sunscreen now it is because they live in desert conditions and are always at war with their neighbors.

    But weren’t the Jews of the Bible conditioned to those very factors; wilderness deserts and war?

    If the desert conditions or even were responsible then skin cancer should be epidemic among the native people of the Arabian Peninsula and Sahara Africa like the people of Mali.
    You need to wield your sword of lies and make-up as you go along and come again with that load of bullshit like your Arthurian legends.
    How come the Romans and English, some of the most warmongering people on God’s green earth are not plagued with that condition that afflicts the white Jews of Israel who have been squatting for less than 100 years?

    Think Australia and the displacement of the black-skin aborigines and you might just find out why the curse of the Sun is afflicting your pale skin make-believe Jews.

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  • Miller

    You are too large a God for these insects

    O’ what madness is religion

    For only madness could have people believing such ignorance

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Dont mind John Liesalot….Eqypt and israel are thisclose geographically….the fake jews are not native to that pile of sand, not today and not 5 thousand years ago, they are eurocausasoid out of the caucas mountains…they are frauds, liars, thieves and murderers, they cannit hide, their melanoma cancers will expose them everytime…genes dont lie.

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  • WELL WELL WHAT A FILTHY RACIST NEGRO I AM IS A DISGRACE TO THIS BLOG. If it were posting this in the UK it would have the police at its door in a heartbeat for racist hate speech, and it beggars belief that the creature is not banned here.
    SHAME ON YOU DAVID.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    45fraudstertheskidmark……and liar….even more than this is posted on UK blogs, even by me….let that kill you, lol.

    If the blogmaster was a shithound like you, he would listen to you…

    Adios, disfruta el resto de tu dia….cabron.

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  • Think Australia and the displacement of the black-skin aborigines and you might just find out why the curse of the Sun is afflicting your pale skin make-believe Jews.

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    This may help you understand!!

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  • Theophilius Gazerts 241

    @John
    What year did the Quakers bring dunks to Barbados?

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ John January 6, 2018 at 3:40 PM

    Senor Juan, what are you trying to tell us other than the Sun is the God of mankind and not only of white Jews and so-called Christians?

    It still does not explain why pale skin ex-convicts were able to travel from the North (Britain mainly) to South of the equator (Australia mainly) to take possession of darker-skin people’s land the same way modern-day immigrants from the South are moving North to Europe to change the colours on the draught board the same way it was done after Columbus’s haphazard crossing.

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  • Theophilius Gazerts 241 January 6, 2018 at 5:33 PM #
    @John
    What year did the Quakers bring dunks to Barbados?

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    I think dunks are from India but could be wrong!!

    Could have come through the Dutch or the English

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  • When is the earth closest to the sun?

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  • When is the earth furthest from the sun?

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Lol…John Liesalot is clueless.

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  • The earth is closest the sun in January!!!

    At that time, the Tropic of Capricorn gets blasted!!!

    If you follow the Tropic of Capricorn around the earth, you will see it travels through the middle of Australia.

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  • The earth is farthest from the Sun in June.

    At that time, the tropic of Cancer gets hit directly.

    If you follow the tropic of Cancer it goes through Saudi Arabia, the Sahara, Central America, India etc etc.

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  • The Equator passes through sub Saharan Africa and gets its maximum UV radiation during the two equinoxes.

    Sub Saharan Africa gets off light, as does Barbados!!

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  • So, you would expect Australia to have the highest incidence of skin cancer.

    Also parts of Peru, Bolivia and parts of Brazil.

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  • You will find that the intensity of radiation follows an inverse square law.

    So if Africa is say 5% further away than Australia when it gets its maximum dosage, then it will receive 10% less radiation.

    Skin colour is important but geography is the killer.

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  • The higher latitudes also have the longer days during their summers.

    More exposure to sunlight

    This picture should illustrate what I am saying.

    http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/skin-cancers/by-country/

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing

    @ John,
    You may appreciate this well known masterpiece.

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  • @Grenville Phillips “The US objected to being singled out for this type of sanction.”

    The U.S. was not singled out for anything. To say so is disingenuous.

    The U.S. singularly decided to move its embassy from Tel Aviv, Israel’s capital city, to Jerusalem, a city a the center of a territorial dispute between israeli people and Palestinian people.

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  • @Grenville Phillips “Perhaps we are being manipulated.”

    Being manipulated by whom?

    I now know for absolute certainty that Solutions Barbados will not get my vote.

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  • @Grenville Phillips “That is why the US Ambassador issued her unprecedented warning.”

    The U.S. Ambassador did exactly as she was told to do by her superiors in the Trumpian State Department.

    It was either obey or quit.

    Do you really believe that the U.S. Ambassador had any real say in the matter.

    She is a civil servant. Civil servants obey or hand in their resignations.

    There is no middle way.

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  • Talking Loud Saying Nothing January 6, 2018 at 9:26 PM #
    @ John,
    You may appreciate this well known masterpiece.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    The old inverse square law worked!!

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  • @John Simpson January 5, 2018 at 8:40 AM “…Barbados for moving their Embassy from NY to Millionaires…”

    What are you talking about?

    Embassies are always located in capital cities.

    Barbados has never had an embassy in New York.

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  • @John January 5, 2018 at 10:38 AM “Will resolutions at the UN follow against countries who also decide to move their embassies?”

    Those other countries are small and not important.

    Their embassies can fit in a milk box.

    Lol

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  • @Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service January 5, 2018 at 10:41 AM “Grenville is not prime minister material.”

    Ya rite.

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  • @millertheanunnaki January 5, 2018 at 1:51 PM “your view on why the ‘white’ people of Israel have one of the highest rates of skin cancer in the world, second only after Australia?”

    White people don’t do too well in the sun, and Ashkenazi Jews have long interbred with the European people among whom they long lived, and so they have the same rates of skin cancer as Europen desended people who live in hot sunny countries (the white Australians etc.) but not the black/indigenous Australians

    Skin cancer is likely less of a problem for darker skinned Mizrahi Jews who have long interbred with the Middle Eastern, Arab and North African people among whom they have long lived.

    Basically the same reason Bob Marley had skin cancer and was dead by age 36. Father was a white man.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Barbados has had a consulate on 2nd Ave and Lexington for decades…

    And still John Liesalot is clueless…lol

    And Grenville is equally clueless and extremely disingenuous with this article, it only served to project the exact opposite of his intentions.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Ah forgot some will have no clue where I mean…

    Barbados has had a consulate on 2nd Ave and Lexington, in Manhattan NYC for decades…

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  • Great Scott, Well Well What a Brainless Verbiage Producer I Is thinks there may be someone as stupid as itself.

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  • Theophilius Gazerts 242

    I am calling the winner of Barbados National Elections. It is BDLP.

    This guy needs to stick with local politics instead of pushing US/Israel nonsense. Most of his comments about the US seem to be ignorant of the emergence of Trump.

    Look at the candidate who is running in your district, try to bind him hand and foot with the failed policies of the BDLP, incessantly beat the corruption drums of the BDLP and stay away from topics lie this one.

    If you want to be taken seriously, then focus on Bajan bread and butter matters. You can not just make any old contribution just for the sake of contributing, leave that to John.

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  • If the desert conditions or even were responsible then skin cancer should be epidemic among the native people of the Arabian Peninsula and Sahara Africa like the people of Mali.
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    An effective means of sun block, that was around for centuries in the Middle East!!

    https://www.google.com/search?q=burqa&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=Skw0EcZtTgn3OM%253A%252CtXhlVQxTdXOoDM%252C_&usg=__OUttHMLXSwGTmixPv3Avmi6ujB4%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjVoLWY7cXYAhVILyYKHSBOAtIQ_h0IqQEwFQ#imgrc=Skw0EcZtTgn3OM:

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  • Theophilius Gazerts 242 January 7, 2018 at 7:40 AM #

    “You cannot just make any old contribution just for the sake of contributing, leave that to John.”
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    Hmmmmm………. you may have a point there.

    The guy often hijacks the blog with MULTIPLE contributions, some of which are “copied & pasted,” on subjects he is INTERESTED in, which are usually irrelevant to the topic. I noticed he shifted the focus from a “discussion” to his dendrologist report on the history of the baobab tree.

    Now he has shifted the focus on this UN, USA and Israel topic to the self appointed roles of resident climatologist and pomologist.

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  • no max factor no problem

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  • How has he shifted the discussion? This is only possible if others follow.

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  • I have responded to the issue of the return of the Jews to their homeland whose capital is Jerusalem!!

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  • Dr. Simple Simon January 6, 2018 at 11:31 PM #
    @millertheanunnaki January 5, 2018 at 1:51 PM “your view on why the ‘white’ people of Israel have one of the highest rates of skin cancer in the world, second only after Australia?”
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    Even the attention of the fake doctor and MTA has been riveted on this aspect of the discussion!!

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  • millertheanunnaki

    @ John January 7, 2018 at 8:36 AM

    Well, well, wonders of intellectual dishonesty never cease to appear from the electronic pen of Sir John Liesalot!

    So Moses was a white man with a long beard?
    The only thing white about the mythical Moses brought up in an Egyptian palace was his beard which was burnt by the Sun.

    “When Moses came down from Mount Sinai, with the two tablets of the testimony in his hand as he came down from the mountain, Moses did not know that the skin of his face shone because he had been talking with God.

    Aaron and all the people of Israel saw Moses, and behold, the skin of his face shone, and they were afraid to come near him.”

    If only he had taken with him his sunscreen lotion with the highest sp factor to avoid wearing his wife’s veil.

    Now pick sense from that passage and you would find out who was the God of the same “white” Moses who was married to an Ethiopian woman and not to Mrs. Charlton Heston.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Lol….you mind John Liesalot and his fairytales.

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  • Theophilius Gazerts 242

    You gotta give it to John. Not many would come up with pictures of Moses and his beard. Soon we will have HaHa asking John for a more recent photo of Moses

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  • I just wanted to be even handed and show that people in that region on both sides have gone to extraordinary lengths to cope with the effects of the sun.

    Here is what the dress was like when Allamby captured Jerusalem from the Ottoman Turks in 1917.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+allenby+king+faisal+jerusalem&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=Ow3ploVA-zat7M%253A%252CxjRo9eaa8Uq4EM%252C_&usg=__wFnZDZ2ymQnijLC7W_0Q3oOddK8%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQzIXXkcfYAhUQc1MKHSNsB88Q9QEINDAF#imgrc=o7y1ALcsN8eXVM:

    It looks as though even Darth Vader was there, dressed to cope with the sun.

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  • Dr. Simple Simon

    @Well Well & Cut N’ Paste At Your Service January 7, 2018 at 6:58 AM “Barbados has had a consulate on 2nd Ave and Lexington for decades”

    Yes.

    But technically a consulate is not the same as an embassy, although consulates and embassies perform much of the same functions. And embassy has to be in the capital city, and has to have an ambassador, or at least a charge d’affaires. A consulate has a consul general.

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  • Well Well & Cut N' Paste At Your Service

    Potatoes, potatos..

    Tomatoes, tomatos

    I dont put much stock in semantics Dr. Simple, as you said, they perfirm much the same functions, one dyde ir dudette just happens to have a really shitty sounding french title means the head civil servant ..,charge d’affaires. = in charge of business…

    While the other is another head civil servant…consul = Consul Representative

    The difference =

    “A consul is an official representative of the government of one state in the territory of another, normally acting to assist and protect the citizens of the consul’s own country, and to facilitate trade and friendship between the people of the two countries.[1] A consul is distinguished from an ambassador, the latter being a representative from one head of state to another. There can be only one ambassador from one country to another, representing the first country’s head of state to that of the second, and his or her duties revolve around diplomatic relations between the two countries; however, there may be several consuls, one in each of several main cities, providing assistance with bureaucratic issues to both the citizens of the consul’s own country traveling or living abroad and to the citizens of the country in which the consul resides who wish to travel to or trade with the consul’s country.”

    At the end if the day, they are both or all civil servants representing their respective countries and easily recalled.

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