DAVID COMISSIONG, Chairman, Caribbean Pan-African Network (CPAN)

The campaign to secure “Reparations” for the multiplicity of genocides and crimes that have been committed against the sons and daughters of Africa during the centuries of Slavery and Colonization consists of  an “outwardly directed” process in which we level demands at the liable European and North American Governments and institutions for a comprehensive package of compensatory money payments, developmental programmes, transfers of resources, and national and international institutional reforms , as well as of an “inwardly directed” process that we African or African-descended people must engage in ourselves to repair those aspects of the damage that pertain most directly to our minds and psyches.

And deeply embedded in the concept of and campaign for Reparations are the following twelve fundamental principles :-

1. NO  IMPUNITY!

The campaign for Reparations sends a message to all and sundry that there will be no impunity for those who commit “crimes against humanity”. Who so ever  commits a “crime against humanity” must know and expect that justice will be demanded of them– even if it takes two hundred years, and even if it is their successors and beneficiaries who are ultimately required to make recompense !

2. VALIDATION OF OUR HUMANITY

If we Africans or African-descendants fail to demand that the present-day representatives and beneficiaries of those  institutions and nations that committed the most horrible crimes imaginable against our ancestors be held accountable and made to pay restitution, we would be implicitly sending a message to ourselves and to the world at large that we do not consider our ancestors (or ourselves) to be sacred beings invested with inalienable rights and deserving of respect and justice! And so, the very act of demanding Reparations constitutes a validation by us of our own precious humanity, and is a critical component of the process that we must engage in as individuals and as a collective of repairing ourselves!

3. KNOWLEDGE  OF  OUR  HISTORY

The Reparations Campaign must be built upon a foundation of knowledge about who we African or African-descended people were before the criminal European impositions of slavery and colonialism — knowledge of the achievements and glories of our pre-slavery, pre-colonial African civilization; knowledge of the history of European orchestrated enslavement and its destructive effects on the civilization of Africa; and knowledge of the extent to which the present-day materially imposing Western industrial societies constitute agglomerations of wealth stolen from the sons and daughters of Africa over the centuries.

4. COMPLETION OF THE EMANCIPATION PROCESS

Of course, the point must also be made that the racist oppression of black or African people did not end with the formal abolition of slavery! Indeed, after the abolition of slavery in the 19th century our historical oppressors deliberately entrapped our ancestors in economic, political and social arrangements that were designed to handicap them and to serve the interests of the former enslavers– arrangements that have persisted (in modified form) down to the present day. The struggle for Reparations must therefore be– among other things– a struggle to expose and put an end to such arrangements and to complete the Emancipation process!

5. COMPENSATION MUST BE PROPORTIONATE TO THE CRIME

The demand for compensation from the present-day representatives of those who inflicted horrendous crimes on our ancestors and who damaged and disabled succeeding generations must consist of a demand for the transfer of material resources in an amount proportionate to the enormity of the crimes and their deleterious effects—resources to enable present-day African and African-descendant populations to counter the economic and social imbalances derived from those centuries of criminality.

6. REPARATIONS MUST PRODUCE THE JUST SOCIETY

The campaign for Reparations or for Reparative Justice must be designed to produce the “just society”, in that the demand for Reparations must be formulated as a demand for a fundamental transformation of the currently existing inequitable and exploitative economic and power relations that exist in the international arena and in many of our domestic societies. This principle has implications not only for the restructuring of such international entities and phenomena as the United Nations Security Council, the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and the terms of international trade and finance, but also for the manner in which our domestic African and Caribbean societies and Governments function. Implicit in the demand of our Caribbean and African Governments for Reparations must be a commitment to themselves deliver justice to their own people! And this is a commitment that the masses of African and Caribbean people must be prepared – through dynamic activism and advocacy– to hold our Governments to!

7. WE AFRICANS MUST EXERCISE AUTONOMY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS

An integral strategy of the contemporary Reparations Movement is to present the demand for the payment of compensation (in financial and material resources as well as in developmental programmes) to the present-day representatives and beneficiaries of the evil system of slave trade and slavery and to invite their collaboration in addressing the tragic effects of this monumental historical crime. But even while adopting this approach, we Africans and African-descendants make it absolutely clear to all and sundry that even though we value the concept of collaboration, that the strategies and tasks to be implemented for our psychological repair and for our economic and social empowerment are our own responsibility and will be conceptualized, directed and controlled by us!

8. WE MUST REPAIR OURSELVES

A critical component of the campaign for Reparations is the African’s and African-descendant’s own inwardly directed struggle for psychological, cultural and spiritual self-repair. Thus, African or Afro-descendant members of the Reparations Movement and their governments must be committed – as individuals and as collectives – to seek to identify all of the ways in which we have been and continue to be negatively affected by false notions of white supremacy and black inferiority, and to rigorously attack them and eradicate the negative effects that impact on our individual and collective psyches!

9. SELF-REPAIR WILL GENERATE MASS SUPPORT FOR REPARATIONS

The effort to “prosecute” and hold accountable the present-day representatives and beneficiaries of the historical oppressors of the African and African-descendant people will require the widespread participation of Africans and African-descendants: and the attainment of such widespread popular participation will, in turn, be dependent on the inwardly directed struggle for self-repair and its capacity to persuade a critical mass of the African population to re-evaluate themselves and their history; to perceive the gravity of the injustice; to feel the tragic historical loss they have suffered; and to be sufficiently motivated to get involved or otherwise support the campaign for Reparations. The Reparations Movement and the African and Caribbean governments that lead it must therefore engage in a comprehensive mass education outreach programme to the community that is designed not only to educate about the relevant history, but to also help as many of our people as possible to emotionally connect with that history and the tragic loss and injustice suffered.

10. REPARATIONS MUST BE A BROAD MOVEMENT

The campaign for Reparations must be designed, on the one hand, to bring on board with us all of our natural allies in Africa and the Diaspora, Latin America and Asia and to enlist the tremendous weight of world opinion on our side, and, on the other hand, to isolate and publicly hold up to international embarrassment and critique all those entities that perversely and unreasonably seek to deny and resist the manifest justice and righteousness of our claim to Reparations. This will call for a concerted effort in the field of international diplomacy by the Ambassadors, Embassies and foreign Missions of the nations of the Caribbean Community (CARICOM) and the African Union (AU). It will also require consistent effort at the General Assembly of the United Nations, the Organization of American States, the Commonwealth and in other relevant international organizations.

11.  THE  MASS OF  OUR  PEOPLE  MUST BE INTIMATELY INVOLVED

The masses of our African and African-descendant populations must be intimately involved in the campaign for Reparations: they must be permitted enough time and opportunity to thoroughly discuss and understand the issue; their right to have the final and decisive say on the concrete details of the Reparations claim must be respected; and they must have a say – through representatives specifically selected by them – as to how the compensatory resources are utilized. Furthermore, at a national level– within our many nation states–the Reparations Movement should systematically appeal to and challenge all of the relevant local and national organizations to put support for Reparations on their agenda and to include it in their programmes and Manifestos – political parties, trade unions, youth organizations, churches, women’s organizations, educational institutions, local government administrations, and the list goes on.

12. NETWORK AND ESTABLISH A NEW INTERNATIONAL LEGAL STRUCTURE

The successful pursuit of Reparations will require the establishment of a world-wide network of community, regional, national and international organizations. Indeed, at the grassroots level, the community based Reparations organization must be linked into a national network, while at the level of our African and Caribbean governments we should establish a trans-Atlantic international network that is preparing and engaging in legal, diplomatic and political strategies at the international level to achieve Reparations. The African and African-descendants Reparations Claim (s) will either be consensually negotiated between mutually respectful State parties gathered around an international negotiating table, or it will have to be litigated in a series of international law cases brought against the Governments of the liable nations.

CONCLUSION :

The time has come for the African and African descendant people of the world and their Governments to finally present their Reparations Bill to the current day successor Governments of those national Governments of Europe and North America that organized, facilitated, legitimized, financed, and benefited from the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and the associated system of racialized Chattel Slavery — the governments of Britain, Spain, France, Portugal, Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Norway, and the United States of America (a former colony that perpetuated the enslavement of African people for nearly one hundred years after attaining its independence).

Onwards to the achievement of Reparations in this United Nations International Decade For People of African Descent!

287 responses to “REPARATIONS MADE SIMPLE or almost everybody’s guide to reparations”

  1. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Yeah…but ya cant prove me wrong and I got all kinds of proof at my fingertips…ya will stay there and melt with anger, ya so stunned, never thought ya would see this in your lifetime now did ya…

    Sleep tight.

  2. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Look Vincent…bedtime reading for dummies…

    This is the evil that europeans introduced to Africa, their brand of slavery, the most brutal, vicious form of slavery and racism, it did not come out of Africa, it was created by europeans and Americans..

    “Tinubu was born into a society where slavery was common. However, the slavery model of West Africa was drastically different than the system introduced by the Europeans during the Transatlantic slave trade.

    Europeans created the system of chattel slavery, in which an enslaved person became complete property of their owner. The enslaved had no rights and were treated as animals for their entire life. Any children they produced (or were forced to produce) became property of the “master.”

    In 19th century West African societies, enslaved people were acquired and treated differently than in European societies. In Africa, the victors of warfare enslaved members of the opposing group for a defined period of time. Someone could become a slave in order to pay off debt, or to repay society for a crime they committed.

    Unlike the European chattel slavery system, in African slavery a person did not remain a slave for their entire life, and slavery was not based on race. They often worked alongside their “masters” and earned the same living. Enslaved people would even enjoy meals and recreation with the family.

    In stark contrast to American slavery, people enslaved in Africa could form close bonds and marry a member of the family to whom they belonged. With such close ties, enslaved Africans would usually become part of their owner’s family and eventually gain freedom.

    Within this complex system, a person enslaved in Africa could also take others as slaves. The work of enslaved people ranged from domestic labor all the way up to positions as government officials with wide-ranging powers.”


  3. In stark contrast to American slavery, people enslaved in Africa could form close bonds and marry a member of the family to whom they belonged. With such close ties, enslaved Africans would usually become part of their owner’s family and eventually gain freedom.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Genetic warfare was practiced against slaves in Africa.

    Males were routinely castrated, females became concubines.

    What marriage are you talking about?

  4. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    John…the issues here are…chattel slavery WAS introduced into Africa, Caribbean, Europe and North America etc, by Europeans and US, that is what a court will hear, they will hear that europeans introduced life long slavery, racism, torture and brutality that lasted generation after generation for centuries into the future from the 1500s, on Black people, that still has negative psychological and other implications today and will continue to do so far into the future for the descendants of slaves….in the Caribbean, because it’s the Caribbean SO FAR who is now actively seeking reparations. .

    No African descendants PRESENTLY LIVING in the Caribbean were subjected to castrations in the Caribbean, but their male ancestors were castrated and the females raped and forced into pregnancies by europeans and US in the West to breed slaves ………which also still has very negative psychological effects on existing societies in the Caribbean regarding continued rapes of women, children…..

    …so people currently living in the Caribbean, US, Europe etc can only present what their ancestors suffered in the Caribbean and in other countries in the West at the hands of european and north american slave trading countries….

    …not in Africa because Caribbean people never lived there and because Africa was not back then and never will be in the West or the Caribbean..

    Africa is not the issue as you are fraudulently trying to make it, not in this case…it’s North America and Europe are the culprits and who have to answer, they can’t call on Africa, it’s all on them, they created and designed the chattel slavery system themselves, not Africa, they introduced it to Africa, they gotta live with it…the continent has no bearing on any lawsuit filed against slave trading countries in the West for their crimes againt humanity worldwide, once slaves were taken from African shores by europeans and north americans.

    If ya dont like that…take it up with the judge, the court, ya false god, whoever, I don’t care, yall like to jump on here trying to defend the indefensible. ..making yaselves look like real dummies….well it’s not working….ya looking like dummies for no good reason, try not to muddle anything else.

    As I told you, ya live on a majority Black island, in your old age and final days, those who you will see constantly in ya nursing home if ya make it there, will be majority Black men and women…Karma can be relentless, remember that.

    That also goes for Vincent…because his last rantings sounds like he is nearly there.

    MoneyB will try to stay in Canada, but Karma is relentless and he might find himself back in good old Barbados, as a very old man, surrounded by only a majority Black population.

  5. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    And since as according to european news, Barbados is leading the reparations charge….it is easy to prove that:

    Despite slavery being abolished over a hundred years ago in the west, that a modern day Slave Society still exists and is maintained on the island by a minority of thieving business people…..a direct spinoff of the original european slave trade…… contrary to modern laws making all forms of slavery illegal under UN international laws…

    That despite laws in place to eradicate rapes against women and children, it is still epidemic on the island as an ugly Rape Society that still exists after centuries as a result and direct spinoff of the original european slave trade and centuries old psychologically demeaning practice of raping men, women and children as a form of control on the island.

    How yall like that one.


  6. WW are you saying the black rapists on the island are a direct result of colonialism. How do you explain black rapists whos ancestors never became slaves

  7. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    Lawson show me any black in the Caribbean whose ancestors were not slaves in even given period within the 400 years of slavery…

    the only blacks who were exempted from enslavement under treaty were the Moors of Spain, the Moors deported from UK were not sent to the Caribbean.

    there were Moors in US, but it`s tricky whether they were exempted or not, there is no history of Moors in the Caribbean…they were all european..

  8. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    besides, as i have said on here at least 25 times, west africa was the main hub for slaves bought by europe, no amount of dilution can change the genetic makeup of people with west african ancestry, or any african ancestry…..genetic testing does not lie.

    stick to the Caribbean Lawson, that is where the movement is focing on..

    we will get to other blacks further afield when they make their demands.

    do you know that the descendants of slave owners who raped slaves….also rape children and whoever they can get their hands on today, stil…just like their rapist ancestors did…eg..the Drax rapists of slavery fame and others….so explain that, why do the descendants of rapist slave owners still rape….400 years later…that is what you should ask..

  9. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    Despite slavery being abolished over a hundred years ago in the west, that a modern day Slave Society still exists and is maintained on the island by a minority of thieving business people…..a direct spinoff of the original european slave trade…… contrary to AND IN DEFIANCE OF modern laws making all forms of slavery illegal under UN international laws…

  10. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    BUs help to the Reparations Movement.


  11. It is simple.

    Slavery is slavery, and it has been going on for millennia, still is!!

    As instruments of God’s will, “white” protestant reformists, Quakers, ended it in the west.

    Had there not been the need for those reformists to flee England in search of a place to practice their beliefs, there would have been no emancipation and the Trans Saharan Slave Trade would still be going on as before.

    Just give thanks to God and see what you can do to end it wherevers it exists.

    The lotta long talk gets you nowhere, nobody listens!!

    Time to grow up.

    Find something else worthwhile to talk about.


  12. Reparations is for Dummies

  13. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    so how are you going stop the reparations movement….when no one is listening to you, MoneyB, Vincent, Northen or ya fake slave e owning quaker god…John.

    lol

  14. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    with the reparations claim and an international court with worldwide publicity….comes a twofer….for the majority black population on the island and by extension..the whole Caribbean..

    i will leave the detractors and their false, slave owning quaker god to figure that one out….since they are all so brilliant…lol


  15. so how are you going stop the reparations movement
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I am not going to lift a finger!!!

    The cost of keeping the intelligentsia employed in a fruitless exercise will!!

  16. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    ya so dumb….it`s not Caribbean lawyers handling this, they have no experience or precedent in the Caribbean to work with….i

    t`s an experiened legal time who already set a precedent in winning an award for Africans against UK brutality against Africans during colonial times…..and know what they are doing…

    so you CANT lift any finger….ya late to the party..

  17. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    read and weep dummy, yall are too wickedminded, it will kill ya..lol

    K to compensate Kenya’s Mau Mau torture victims … the unrest could pursue their compensation claims against the government. … It did not dispute they suffered “torture and other ill-…….

  18. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    that little amount should really hurt yall hearts this morning.

    the one thing europe is deathly afraid of are the lawsuits generated from their enslavement of and illtreatment of Africans and their descendants…have a nice read…

    UK to compensate Kenya’s Mau Mau torture victims
    William Hague says payments totalling £19.9m represent ‘full and final settlement’ of action brought by five victims of torture.

    “We understand the pain and the grief felt by those who were involved in the events of emergency in Kenya. The British government recognises that Kenyans were subjected to torture and other forms of ill-treatment at the hands of the colonial administration,” he said.

    “The British government sincerely regrets that these abuses took place and that they marred Kenya’s progress to independence. Torture and ill-treatment are abhorrent violations of human dignity which we unreservedly condemn.”


  19. Chuckle……….We should get a medal from the BU family by keeping you on here with your illogical,irrational,idiotic apples and oranges rants……..keep on ranting whatever you are.

  20. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    lol


  21. WW,
    Whites can be savages…but very pathetic savages, very greedy savages…and they are thieves..

    Replace Whites with HUMANS in your sentence because whatever “proof” you bring to support your charge I can supply tons of info to support that other Racial groups behave in inhumane ways too eg Japanese treatment of Chinese in Nanjing in the late 1930s where they snatched babies from mother’s arms and threw the babies in the air bayonetting them on the way down! Murdered over 1 mn people in that city alone! Do I hate or condemn all Japanese? NO! some of my closest friends are Japanese and my wife is Chinese whose mother suffered in their occupation of Singapore in WW2. She was late teens at that time and in order to prevent RAPE she had to cut her hair like a male and make sure her breasts were compressed / flattened.

    I certainly agree that black people were very ill treated in many White nations and communities but it was not from people with my mindset or track record in befriending blacks and treating them as equals.


  22. WW are you sure that when you hear from all these black women that they have had encounters with the rapist…. that they didn’t mean….therapist


  23. Lawson,
    Do you allow the mentally ill back in the community without treatment?


  24. No we have a different way of handling the mentally ill,every four years we allow them to vote liberal

  25. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    John October 21, 2017 at 9:46 AM
    “As instruments of God’s will, “white” protestant reformists, Quakers, ended it in the west.
    Had there not been the need for those reformists to flee England in search of a place to practice their beliefs, there would have been no emancipation and the Trans Saharan Slave Trade would still be going on as before.”

    Aren’t you being a ‘tad’ disingenuous with those ‘forget-and-move on’ Christian ‘admonishments’?

    Why are you ‘demanding’ that black people in Caribbean do just that but similar ‘advice’ was not heeded by your God’s chosen people the Jews who went through similar hell at the hands of Hitler’s white regime?

    “Too” besides, why are you going against your Bible (the living word of your desert god Yahweh)?

    Isn’t slavery as a worthy institution clearly sanctioned in that book of perfection?
    Isn’t slavery a morally uplifting contract as long as the slaves are treated in accordance with good Quaker rules in keeping with the Society of Friends’ humanitarian tradition?

    We find it passing strange that the arrival of the Quakers in Barbados fleeing religious persecution in England ‘accidentally’ coincided with the beginning of black ‘commercial’ chattel slavery to meet the growing demand for ‘hard’ labour involved in the cultivation of sugarcane with the indentured red legs clearly incapable of doing such heavy lifting in the hot boiling sun.

    Maybe the suffering inflicted on the Jews under the ‘Aryan’ Third Reich was their (and yours) god Yahweh’s way of punishing his chosen people in typical Judeo-biblical fashion of ‘an eye for an eye and a tooth for toenail’ for their Portugese and Dutch ancestor’s pivotal role in the very Trans-Atlantic slave trade where millions of black lives were lost in the crossing and treated like jetsam for insurance claims purposes.

  26. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson…the..rapist…same thing….lol

    MoneyB…but it’s white europeans currently being sued…not any other groups, how bout that.

    Miller…dont mind them, none of them can stop what’s happening…..if you read my posts again, you or Bushman, or Blogmaster will see the golden opportunity that has presented itself, let’s see if any of them are intelligent enough to use that opportunity to finally do what’s right and just….

    …..the spinoff from the reparations movement is priceless….any award is icing on the cake after they recignize the rare and golden opportunity that has presented itself…

    Let’s see if they will take their current dumbness to a newer level….or see the light and get intelligent.

    Ah notice the only one on here asking about amount in compensation is Ha Ha Austin, something about 76b….apparently only he cares….he already missed the whole point of the reparations…ah hope he aint looking for any money….living in UK and all…lol


  27. Lawson—now that was real funny!

    But not at the Next Provincial or Fed elections


  28. Miller

    Make sure that you are in line to cash in on the golden award being offered by the idiot savant aka snake oil salesman.

  29. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Vincent…..finally, something that yall have completely been shut out from…cant thief and have no say in…cant jump in front..

    how does it feel…yall parasites…lol


  30. UK to compensate Kenya’s Mau Mau torture victims
    William Hague says payments totalling £19.9m represent ‘full and final settlement’ of action brought by five victims of torture.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So where are the lawyers going to find the slaves/victims on whose behalf they will bring their case?

    Are they going to dig up their graves?

    If the dummies employing them haven’t figured that one out the lawyers will fleece them …. like every self respecting lawyer does!


  31. All I got to do is watch and laugh …. perhaps cuss that tax dollars are being used in a futile exercise by a bunch of dummies!!

  32. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    John…ya are not a lawyer…you are clueless, for once it’s nice to show everyone on BU how dumb ya are, a scholarship makes no one intelligent….a lesson to bajans.

    Intelligence is a very rare gift….at this stage you are best left in the dark, where you belong and where you do the most good, with all the detractors.

    How does it feel.


  33. MB Canadian politics are weird I am totally befuddled the quebec liberals have banned the burka, the ontario liberals are against banning it but if you look at kathleen wynn wearing a burka in ontario should be mandatory


  34. The successful claim for compensation by the Kenyans does not support the Caribbean claim. The legal facts in each claim are different. Slavery was not a crime. However, in the Kenyan claim, the atrocities took place in the 1950/60s; the legal claim was brought by survivors of the atrocities; the atrocities were committed by British colonial officers; and the legal claim was pursued in Britain.

    Also note that an out-of-court settlement was reached in the Kenyan case. The British Government said that the settlement did not set any precedent and it was not an admission of liability: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/statement-to-parliament-on-settlement-of-mau-mau-claims


  35. David

    looks like my posts have been identified as not suitable for this blog by whatever algorithm your site is using…..nevertheless I sent you it.

    Its about light and dark pigment originating in East Africa,a new discovery which may confuse reparationists as far as entitlement is concerned.


  36. Tony who is kenya’s biggest trading partner? you throw them a bone to keep the gravy train going.


  37. John

    It has been done before.

    Pope Stephen VI ordered the body of Pope Formosus exhumed so it could be tried for perjury and of having acceded to the papacy illegally. And that was just the start of the madness.
    The Absurd Story Of The Pope Who Put His Predecessor’s Corpse On Trial
    The macabre spectacle was one of the more noteworthy events of the papacy in the Middle Ages.
    all-that-is-interesting.com

    https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fall-that-is-interesting.com%2Fcadaver-synod&h=ATOaK4olN0HW6B1Cn2_OdXKfIKfZTuzo6lswLwIc9-UvO-uCycB8mG7Omsp5U8zPWTdYukDuHO_gHFIA902QSu1uWbHoLOGeHUbd94PUQRRF_3e-9zvAL1slsIeTvgQo5eWx_ds8wPhyvKl-BhOBnVs3shCvWepz3L-oPD64DMbLmZPMQDr5nWAHVZR4_UHQ25WSB9L4s4aruzeCXdFYXapbFTMUof1lNynSnjcZXrBj6YdAdWztaA1iTqIRILYfELJjqYX9ItALwjYo5-u8KSwHEK8U

  38. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson…would you want to travel on a GO bus with someone whose face you cannot see, what if their are 4 or 5 of them, people you cannot identify….

    .I am as liberal as one can get and have no intention of traveling on a bus or train with people whose faces I cannot see to identify….yall too happy go lucky on Canada, ya should spend 10 or 20 years in NYC…….and gain a whole new perspective.

    I thought you liked Kathleen Wynne…lol

    Tony…ya dont have the facts about the requirements to the claim.

  39. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    People are commenting without having the facts, get the facts to the reparations claim…then have a real debate….ya only commenting on what you dont want to see.


  40. Aren’t you being a ‘tad’ disingenuous with those ‘forget-and-move on’ Christian ‘admonishments’?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Christianity was the official religion of the Roman Empire.

    Check it and you will see.

    “Though Constantine I (circa A.D. 280 to 337) was the first Christian emperor of Rome, it was not until decades after he died that Christianity became the official religion of the empire. Ruling from 379 to 395, Emperor Theodosis I was the first emperor to decree that all citizens should be Christian.”

    Thus for 1500 years Christians owned slaves, perfectly legal, moral and ethical.

    So what happened to change the minds of Christians?

    Answer …. The Reformation … and the printing press!!!

    The Bible was translated from Latin first to German by Martin Luther and then to English and other languages.

    It became widely available for anyone to read.

    The abolition of slavery is a direct result of the access to God’s Word by many.

    The Quakers, like many other dissenters and non conformists were all a product of the Reformation.

    If you need evidence of the effect of God’s Word on mankind, look no further than the abolition of slavery!!


  41. … and that’s why totalitarian regimes and atheists are so petrified of the Bible!!


  42. Kawson,
    Who is Kath Wynn? Did U mean Lezzie Loser?


  43. Yea I meant her…trudeaus balls


  44. John

    A question……suppose your concept of God is incorrect…..what is your fall back position?

  45. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Ha, ha, ha!!!


  46. what is your fall back position

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    What do you mean?


  47. You have given the answer…..thanks John.


  48. You are put on this earth to do something only you can do.

    You get to pass this way once, make it count.

    You will get everything you need, no more, no less!!

  49. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    WW
    FYI…I have never opposed the call for reparations, as you noted.
    Slavery was a crime against humanity. I have no idea/prediction on the outcome of the matter. And as you also noted our opinions have zero bearing on that result.

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