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Combermere Secondary School

Of concern to the BU household are the increasing number of hours being forfeited in the school year for one reason or the other in Barbados. Combermere Secondary School students have been the most visible example of being short changed because of a perennial environmental problem. Other schools have had to close classrooms because of the severe water management problem the country has experienced since December 2015.  Somewhere between the environmental and water problems other issues have forced schools to close doors as well –industrial action comes to mind.

The obvious concern for stakeholders, especially parents, is how are students being affected by the short in class room time. As far as the BU household is aware there is no contingency to -or apparent urgency- to establish makeup classes. The BU household will retract if proved to be incorrect.

IF Barbados is serious about building a more productive society we must change the way we respond to situations that negatively affect goals (national). If schools have to be closed for extended periods commonsense should dictate that the ministry of education ensure continuity planning is legislated.

The BU household does not have the expertise in the area of testing, measurement and assessment and related matter, however, commonsense supports a reasonable expectation that the technocrats have calculated the number of hours required to execute the subjects in the local curriculum. What would be the result if a simple risk management exercise were applied to evaluate the effect loss of teaching hours so far have had on the school population?

Several weeks after the Combermere Secondary School was closed by the ministry of education there has been no decision to reopen. In fact, the latest news is that the senior school (5th and 6th forms) will have to report to classes at Erdiston Training College and the Samuel Jackman Prescod Polytechnic from Monday next week. The length of time it is taking to reopen the school rubbishes headmaster Vere Parris assertion that a sewer cover was left opened because of an act of sabotage. Too much politics!

BU’s simple recommendation is that an agreed number of teaching hours  must be available to students. If hours are missed through no fault of the students makeup hours must be factored into the timetable. The extra time can be taken from vacation days or extra periods during the week.

What BU has recommended is not novel neither is it rocket science –we expect resistance to the commonsense suggestion. Bear in mind the use of available technology can make implementation a simple exercise.

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  • Samuel Jackman Prescod Polytechnic.

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  • There must be space going a begging at UWI Cave Hill since this government cut back on state funded tertiary education there.The woman of wigs,who suddenly found her market-vendor-type voice to regale all and sundry on radio on which government department was present at the ‘linking of hands’ in the environs of Heroes Square on Monday November 28th should therefore factor in that institution in the spatial requirements of the school while environmental concerns are addressed at Waterford.

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  • @ David,

    There is no need to give students ” extra time “.

    These so called ” environmental issues ” cannot be difficult to correct unless they are caused by aliens.

    What would the government do if this was happening at the QEH ?

    What would they do if people died within 2 weeks of getting sick from these ” environmental problems ” ?

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, your summary says it well: “What BU has recommended is not novel neither is it rocket science […] Bear in mind the use of available technology can make implementation a simple exercise.”

    You are right. In 2016 the issue of missed contact class-room hours should not be a catastrophe of missed teaching time.

    Students can be assigned the work as required and teachers can relate and respond to them via the ubiquitous devices every Gen-Zer has in hand today. How embarrassingly easy would it be for the school tech dept to have some type of Facebook study group by class where material is presented and a robust back-n-forth facilitated; at a set time for a set duration.

    That’s minimalist. A fellow like Pieces with all his old-man tech knowledge and that grandson of his could offer better and more comprehensive tools.

    That apart clearly if the students along with their parents want to bust-out of this stupid paradigm which treats them like guinea pigs or hamster on a treadmill of ‘rote learn-respond’ then they WOULD.

    Really ‘bright’ folks don’t rely on their teachers to teach them; rather they soak up knowledge on their own and use their teachers’ experience and years of scholarship to guide them and point out their flaws. One does not have to sit in a 20 X 20 room in a smelly building to achieve that.

    You are also absolutely right in your sotto voce thrust, that there is really no deep interest by any of the stakeholders (particularly the teachers’ union and the complicit Min of Ed) to develop an education platform to take Bajans to awesome heights.

    We are stuck in the same anachronistic models of a Combermere from 350 years ago…!

    Blow up the Min of Ed (as the Bushman has said).

    Your post actually brought home to me exactly how ridiculous this entire episode has been….so we might as well wash out the stables starting at Waterford. Sacrilegious. I weep to say that!

    (Incidentally, does Combermere or any Bajan school have electronic interface to parents that allows them to see homework assignments, chat with teachers and basically be up to date with events at the school???)

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  • @ David
    This would make sense if the education being imparted was meaningful and valuable.
    One gets the impression that both teachers and students have concluded that the whole damn exercise is a waste of time anyway, and so missing some classes is neither here nor there.

    Do you not see the ease with which schools were closed on Thursday “so principals can check the school’…..??!!

    Wuh shiite Boss!!!
    Yuh mean dem could not check a damn school on Wednesday evening (like St Winifreds did) and get the children in school on Thursday?
    Lotta shiite….

    Then with large expensive water tanks in all schools, (or they should be- by LAW ….since even homes are mandated to have them) ….and PARTICULARLY since these schools are claimed to be ’emergency shelters’…..where then, will those seeking shelter after a storm, get water?

    Ever time there is a water outage, the whole damn school goes home…
    …or when there is a cane fire
    …or the rain set up
    …or a tree fart
    …or a sewerage cover leaks (surely they know of back-pressure from suck wells from time to time when large volumes of water enter the underground system)

    The WHOLE administration of education is in the hands of retarded jackasses, who are destroying our children.

    Then to add icing to the cake, with such a lackadaisical approach to school time, the same shiite ministry is making a big issue of paying a few teachers who took time off to haold a union meeting….

    Shiite…. Yuh mean AC and Dompey in charge of EVERYTHING at the DLP….?

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  • Just saying most likely the resistance to your recommendation would come from Mary Redman and her band
    Simplicity equal complicity in barbados

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  • Ah lest we forget the World Economic Forum, as was just announced in today’s media by Deputy Council Chairman Dr Marcia Potterut of the Caribbean Examinations Council, rates Barbados education among the top 10 systems in the world. This ranking is far above the USA, Canada, Great Britain and Australia.

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  • Why would the principle lie. Furthermore in all aspects the information that the principle shared would have been generated by those who would have inspected the school premises
    This nonsense to rubbish shared information is typical of yardfowl baiting .Yet these same conductors would get on the pailing all day long and crow about transparency
    Again i ask why would the principle have to lie

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  • CAN ANYONE OF YOU ,GOOD BAJANS EXPLAIN TO US OUTSIDERS, WHAT IS MEANT BY THE PHRASE,” GOD IS NOT A BAJAN”?
    THANKS

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  • (Incidentally, does Combermere or any Bajan school have electronic interface to parents that allows them to see homework assignments, chat with teachers and basically be up to date with events at the school???)

    No

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  • Yes Congratulations in order for Barbados achievement in education when placed against some of the leading educational giants world wide
    Btw mention was made of barbados standing in education a few weeks ago here on BU and the silence was deafening
    If the news is not bad it would be hard to find an article that says anything good about barbados here on BU
    I am of the opinion that there are some who troll BU have selflove and love of countryis just an after thought
    That is why you would find that there comments always ring loud of a defeatism and callous attitude towards barbados

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  • Adtewairie

    As an outsider myself I could only hazard a guess as to why God isn’t Bajan. It is because He isn’t a Bulla?

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  • AC

    I really question the motives of people such as Caswell Franklyn who pretends to have his country interest at heart by pumping, peddling and spewing his weekly bullshit about workers rights, but yet masquerading under the verisimilitude of a provocateur of the ruling establishment.

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  • It is usually dangerous to generalize from a personal experience, but even so, I am firmly of the belief that for secondary school students in the Caribbean, less is more.

    Translation: Most teachers are so bad at their jobs in the classroom, that students are not necessarily worse off when they are excused from classes.

    The teachers were on strike when I did my A-levels, and left to my own devices, I earned two As and a B. Now, perhaps my situation would not apply to everyone, but how necessary is it to have a full year of instruction when so much of what we learn is forgotten in a few weeks.

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  • Chad9999

    Education has less to do with the paper one receives, and more to do with what it took to obtain the paper sir. You didn’t know that brother?

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  • If the system of education in Barbados is superior to that of the UK, US and Canada, why is the island so technologically and economically dependent on these countries?

    Why is the quality of spoken and written English so inferior?

    How many Nobel prizes have Barbadians earned?

    How many patents have been registered in the names of Barbadians?

    Why do we like to believe our own bulls***?

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  • David on December 3, 2016 at 11:17 AM
    (Incidentally, does Combermere or any Bajan school have electronic interface to parents that allows them to see homework assignments, chat with teachers and basically be up to date with events at the school???)

    An emphatic “Yes”! Once again, St Winifred’s communicates with parent/guardians via email and homework assignments while given to children in class is also transmitted to the home electronically. One chan also chat with the class teacher.

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  • Chad
    Reminds me of our teacher of History the late Ronnie Hughes.In 5A he said Combermere will get a 100% pass in the subject.He was right.Our friends at Kolij failed miserably.They got 1 pass….I think his name was Chandler.

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  • So too People’s Cathedral, NOT Combermere. Is it any great surprise those who are able to afford and even those who cannot are sending their children to private schools?

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  • It would be interesting and beneficial if parents had access to teacher attendance at school and also which class periods are not supervised and by whom. One is constantly told of classes going for weeks without certain teachers being in attendance.

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  • Chad9999

    An associate’s degree at your local Community College requires that one completed 66 credit hours to graduate, and one subject equal 3 credit hours which can last approximately three months. So you see how long one has to stay in a classroom to obtain this piece of paper?

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  • @ FearPlay
    It would be interesting and beneficial if parents had access to teacher attendance at school..
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    “interesting”? … Boss, you mean SHOCKING and revealing.

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  • Chad9999

    Great points Chad but of course, Barbados educational system is superior to those in the region and yet St. Lucia have to Nobel Prize winners and Barbados zero as we speak. I know my grammar isn’t the best, but when I heard Rihanna who attended Combermere spoke to Oprah Winfrey regarding the Chris Brown incident, I nearly fell out my chair.

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  • If Rihanna is what Combermere is producing these days in terms of students who ought to excel academically, we ought not rate Combermere as a school of national acclaim anymore.

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  • BU learned about a committee selected by the PTA to assist with the issue at Combermere. We read in the media there was a meeting between the PTA, PTA Committee and the Ministry and all were happy with the outcome. What was the outcome? When will the damn epidemiology reports be made public?

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @John Everatt December 3, 2016 at 10:57 AM re”… Barbados education among the top 10 systems in the world. This ranking is far above the USA, Canada, Great Britain and Australia.”

    I must agree with Chad45 that these studies on the merits of various school systems make no sense without careful and practical awareness of realities.

    The US system is vast and indeed very unequal. So its easy enough to get large swatches of neighborhoods in Chicago or Compton, CA or NY that pull down educational measurements of excellence.

    Barbados with its quite smaller pop and realities can slide under the radar when averages are taken but surely we cannot be fooled by the reports.

    As Chad noted where then are the first among equals as compared to the supposedly weaker US folks. This is parallel to the point made by the Bushman when he clearly laid out the male dysfunction at pre and early teens that then evolves to a better competitive excellence later.

    How can a Barbados system be so good and we had the realities of children sitting 11-plus who were basically ILLITERATE?…How do we have the depressing situations where in some schools teachers have to provide breakfast, support and basic guardianship services to various students term after term?…How can our system be great when too many teachers are sexing with students or as I heard playing AIDS-stud to unsuspecting female peers.

    All this with nary a rebuke, meaningful fix or even criminal prosecution?

    To put it another way. Just a few weeks ago in NY over 28,000 students sat a test to get acceptance to one of 9 top high schools in NY; 800 will be accepted.

    And so what, you say!

    Well, at the top three of those top school the Black attendance averages around 5%. Thus taking test results from certain white and Asian neighborhoods (avg 20% and 65%) you certainly will get superior standards of achievement than if you tested in certain Black neighborhoods.

    Not suggesting that Blacks are necessarily intellectually inferior but unfortunately they don’t come out of their neighborhood schools to the same level as many of their peers.

    So just noting that drilling into results can rationalize otherwise wonderfully appearing reports.

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  • It says a lot abut these taking head who are given generous media time to release irrelevant BS. Here is the point -when will the ministry of education share performance stats with the public. Bear in mind successive governments have worked diligently to hide this information from the public.

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Dompey December 3, 2016 at 12:49 PM re “If Rihanna is what Combermere is producing these days in terms of students who ought to excel academically, we ought not rate Combermere as a school of national acclaim anymore.”

    Domps the thing about you is that you take very simple statements and twist them into some of the most nonsensical pronouncements possible.

    Did Rihanna ever try to make herself out to be an academic?

    You suggest that you have gained a lot practical knowledge to apply and improve simple theory.

    Yet you can pronounce as above. LOLL. You are the best critic of your own words.

    Do you have any freaking idea of the number of students who passed the common-entrance to supposedly good schools and went through the system who are yet ‘grammar challenged’ or are not comfortable with public speaking and thus in that nervous situation speak ‘horribly’.

    Big strong man that you are, maybe you still pissed your pants on the live-ammo training battle the first time you thought that AK-47 bullet was going to blow a hole in your head. LOL.

    All sorts of people went to Cawmere and HC or Lodge. And surely not all of them speak perfectly or even pretend to be academics.

    Get REAL!

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    “Really ‘bright’ folks don’t rely on their teachers to teach them; rather they soak up knowledge on their own and use their teachers’ experience and years of scholarship to guide them and point out their flaws. One does not have to sit in a 20 X 20 room in a smelly building to achieve that.”

    Many ivy leaguers will tell you that they learn very little of value from their professors and learn much more teaching themselves, one attended her coop work program and was handed a book by the company on how to teach herself about they way to operate within the IT environment, a book that was not in any of the ivy league libraries, these kids can navigate any, tablet, ipad, software program, they can aid in their own progress and education.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    …..”rates Barbados education among the top 10 systems in the world. This ranking is far above the USA, Canada, Great Britain and Australia.”

    This jackass woman is lying, the information was posted to BU 2 weeks ago by Moneybrain, i read the whole article and explained it to MoneyB…..this thing whoever she is, is spreading misinformation…they waited until they thought everyone had forgotten and started lying,

    The rating worldwide is 1-11…Barbados came 11th…about ready to fall off the list, it was compiled to show the degrading standard of education worldwide.

    A rating of 12 or more and your education level has dropped.

    I wish these pretensious lying cows would stop spreading misinformation in the small islands…she is a liar..plain and simple…I saw the rating list myself and all the countries involved…and the island was last in the list of the best of the degrading education.

    http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2016/12/03/high-ranking/

    There is the liar.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Of course the idiots ACs would believe anything….fine example of the rapidly deteriorating rate of the education system…lol

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  • WW&C
    As I recall there were 3 Countries including Barbados that were graded 9th.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    They really need to change the names if those high schools ir keep fibding themsekves lookibg more and more desperate and foolish, just ket tge kids gobto school and do their best, create more techinical high schools, upgrade the education ststem as all the coubtries around the workd niw understand the degradation taking place and are trying to do….

    AND stop telling lies about the island being in the top 10…..again, the rating was compiled to show the continuing and consistent degradation of the education system WORLDWIDE. ….

    Again,…..the rating is 1….to 11…Barbados was rated as 11, last in the line of what they now consider the best education, if you will.

    Instead of looking for ways to make sure they dont fall off the ratings list in the next 2 years…this liar struts out like a yardfowl with her misinformation.

    Now it’s plain to see why the island is regressing rapidky, badly, the lies, the deceit, the lies, the pride, the lies…how could she miss what the article said when it was written in English for intelligent people to understand…how could she see 10 or in the top 10…..when the rating specifically said:

    #11……Barbados.

    MoneyB can back me up on this, he is the one posted the article to BU.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Gabriel…the blogmaster can pull up the article MoneyB posted, it’s in his archives.

    MoneyB even posted that the island was 11th…that is what prompted me to read the whole thing to see how it was being rated. .it was 11.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    As a matter of fact…I can even tell you where the article is…around the week of the US elections..it was on the Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump blog on BU….go look for yourself.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Yall like to live in too much damn fantasy….step into reality, it cant hurt.

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  • I never assumed that Rihanna was an academic by any stretched of the human imagination, but when one has attended a school of national reputation in Barbados, he or she is expected to shine intelligently, and beyond those persons much like myself who have attended a second rated school in Barbados. Back in my day when someone in the neighborhood attended Combermere or any of those schools of national acclaim, he or she was revenant with adulation because that person was know to separate his or her self iintellectually from the others.

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  • Rihanna, does not fit the criterion by her articulation as someone who has attended a school national reputation in Barbados. And I am not trying to denigrate this young lady’s character because she carries the same surname as I do, and according to my madda: she is a very distant cousin, but the truth is the truth as far as I am concerned.

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  • If one looks at the actual World Economic Forum’s Global Competitiveness Report 2016 2017, it is difficult to come to the conclusion that Barbados has the 9th best educational system in the world. Barbados ranks very highly out of 138 countries but the summary of Barbados’ rankings as given on page 129 of the report states that we rank 10th for “Quality of Primary Education”, 22nd for “Quality of Education system ” (this under the subset “Higher Education and Training”) and 20th in the “Quality of Maths and Science education”.

    Barbados educational system thus ranks in the top 14% of countries according to the report.

    http://www3.weforum.org/docs/GCR2016-2017/05FullReport/TheGlobalCompetitivenessReport2016-2017_FINAL.pdf

    Of course I have not assessed the methodology of determining the rankings. It is reasonable to accept that overall, given our size, history and resources there is much to celebrate regarding our educational system to date. However there must be questions as to whether we can improve the performance of the system or even maintain the present quality and more importantly whether we can effect those changes that make the system fit for the future challenges of a 21st century society.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    And therein lies the problem…everyone learns at a different pace, no student that can digest and regurgitate information faster tnan the other students should consider themselves any better or in a class by themselves.

    Rihanna cut the legs from under that lie, she was oit academic, but she did not need to be to acquire success, just the basics of finishing high school, ya would think the uneducated in the ministry of education would understand that and make the necessary changes and upgrades.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    What Barbados needs to do is make the upgrades to stop themselves from falling off any current rankings, instead of preening like peacocks and falling over themselves with pride, do the necessary work and make the required changes that would put them on the same footing with Japan…..who is ranked #1….just avoid the same social issues that go with being at the top.

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  • We have to ask the more important question as to why when kids from the Caribbean migrate to America, they’re placed in remedial English classes because of improper English? I know we as West Indians have tendency to speak fast according to some Americans, but that is only part of the problem. It is our inability to sustain a conversation speaking the proper grammar, and I have witnessed this problem amounts all West Indian who have initially migrated to America from all over the Caribbean.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    It has nothing to do with speaking fast and everything to do with the damn dialect, it’s anither language, it’s guttural and no one can understand what you say….the words never sound complete. The same thing with the US Ebonics.

    Standard english is just that, standard, it’s taught in the schools in all the Caribbean islands and shoukd be spoken as such when dealing with those who are not used to dialect, you do not speak french or german to people in Holland, because most speak Dutch,

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  • Sometimes I am amazed at my 10 year old son, as to how at times he able to correct my wife and I when we are using improper grammar, and how he is able to sustain a conversation using the correct English. A polar distinction between my niecs and nephews in Barbados of the same age as my 10 year old son.

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  • @Dee Word

    Here is a link to show how exact the hours are calculated to execute the syllabus elsewhere.

    http://www.angelo.edu/dept/education/advising/student_teaching.php

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Dompey December 3, 2016 at 3:49 PM re ” …but when one has attended a school of national reputation in Barbados, he or she is expected to shine intelligently..” AND ” Rihanna, does not fit the criterion by her articulation as someone who has attended a school national reputation in Barbados.”

    Dompey, with respect bro but again you are your own worst enemy. The Bushman has said this repeatedly to you that you simply do not ‘understand’ what you are saying. You write statements that fall in on themselves. Some, simple fallacies and others too complex and beyond my ability to analyse : pure cow-dung in Bajan speak. Again said with respect, senor.

    Don’t you UNDERSTAND that the mere fact that Rihanna has EXCELLED in the dog-eat-dog world of the international entertainment industry is in fact a sterling example of her ‘intelligence’.

    Whether she gained that mostly at Cawmere or from family and school which she then blended beautifully to what she learned as she climbed to the top I certainly cannot determine. But clearly she is very intelligent.

    Was the entire matter of knowledge and power et al not discussed ad nauseum already.

    Stop the simplistic and frankly abjectly stupid conflation of what a child does on an exam of regurgitated data at 11 with their real intelligence.

    Stop equating lovely oratory or even grammar with measurements of innate intelligence. You are displaying your clear inability to properly discern.

    I met a few years ago a young lady who went to St. Leonards and who like you still uses inaccurate grammar. Yet she is as sharp as a tack at discerning the logic and fallacies of life. So clearly it is not about where one goes to school or subject-verb agreement.

    You are way off-based here and simply do not know of what you speak. Go back to BushTea’s remarks on knowledge and intelligence. He said it much better than I ever could.

    To be repetitive, GET REAL!

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Thanks David.

    Again Mr Dompey re “Sometimes I am amazed at my 10 year old son, as to how at times he able to correct my wife and I when we are using improper grammar, and how he is able to sustain a conversation using the correct English. A polar distinction between my niecs and nephews in Barbados of the same age as my 10 year old son.”

    You are saying that you and your wife are lazy and content to stay in the hole dug for you n your youth when you lived among people who repeatedly spoke ‘badly’.

    You are saying that your son is forced to speak properly there in the US and thus can correct your lazy backside.

    I am being rude in my speech because your post are increasingly inane. I have family who went to your so called “schools of national reputation” and those who didn’t. Those who speak poorly do so because of the environment in which they operate and their lack of reading. NOT as a result of where they went to school.

    Like you they are lazy as there is no excuse for ‘ebonics’ today. NONE.

    The act of posting is an excellent practice to hone English skills yet you write here often and repeat the same errors; similar I suspect to your son’s correction.

    At this stage of your life that is pure laziness as you are certainty ‘intelligent’ enough to have banished the errors from your writing and speech.

    Stop pontificating and start being serious…..fah real!

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  • Anonymouse - TheGazer

    I am always amazed at what I see here. Some are seeing the ball as big as a breadfruit; some are blind squirrels; trouble makers, apologists and yardfowls.

    Then we have Dompey…

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  • WW&C
    As I said three countries including Barbados are rated 9th…..
    here is the link:-
    http://www.business-insider.com/wef-ranking-of-best-school-systems-in-the-world-2016-2016-11/#9-japan-56-1

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  • Gabriel

    instead of repeating what a journalist writes, go and read the report for yourself and come to your own conclusion. Look at page 129 of the report.

    The same organisation, The Business Insider, also carried an article titled “These are the 11 most educated countries in the world”.

    http://www.businessinsider.sg/wef-global-competitiveness-report-most-educated-countries-in-the-world-2016-10/

    Barbados, Estonia, Japan, Ireland and Qatar (which are on the list of the best school systems) are not mentioned in the list of the most educated countries.

    My conclusion is that one should have a skeptical view of these lists.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    “We have drilled down into the schooling data to look at which countries have the best education systems. Neither the US or the UK make the grade in the top 11 (3 countries are tied for 9th, making 11 the clearest cut off point.)”

    Here are the ones that did make …

    Gabriel…that is not how it’s rated…you see firvyourself that numbers are nit in sequence,

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Gabriel…that is not how it’s rated…you see for yourself that numbers are not in sequence…the point here being, instead of preening and claiming to be tops, to stay jn the ratings, much work needs to be done.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Dont be quick to boast, read and understand how it’s rated.

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  • Anonymouse - TheGazer

    If the crowning achievement of our 98% literacy rate is our contribution to facebook (where the literate and illiterate) hold court, then our 9th 10th or 11th place in the world is just comfort for fools. Our educational system is failing us and needs a total revamp.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    I dont know how many people have noticed, but many of these same countries are also considered the wealthiest and best places to live….using the same rating system.

    http://ow.ly/dx7y306MDVT

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  • The ratings are as follows:-
    1 Finland 6.7
    2 Switzerland 6.2
    2 Belgium 6.2
    4 Singapore 6.1
    5 Netherlands 5.9
    6 Qatar 5.8
    6 Ireland 5.8
    8 Estonia 5.7
    9 New Zealand 5.6
    9 Barbados 5.9
    9 Japan 5.6
    I don’t see Barbados at the bottom of the list at nr 11,”almost falling off”,neither do I see the numbers ” not in sequence “.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    “We have drilled down into the schooling data to look at which countries have the best education systems. Neither the US or the UK make the grade in the top 11 (3 countries are tied for 9th, making 11 the clearest cut off point.)”

    Gabriel….this came from the same article, I did not make this up, why dont you contact the rating agency yaself.

    You can fool yaself all you want, like most countries in the world, the education system on the island is in a deplorable state.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    The more ya spread misinformation, the worse the country regresses….

    This is how education systemms are rated worldwide.

    Countries with the best education system

    http://ow.ly/TD5s306MHFQ

    Key findings: 2015/2016

    East Asian nations continue to outperform others. South Korea tops the rankings, followed by Japan (2nd), Singapore (3rd) and Hong Kong (4th). All these countries’ education systems prize effort above inherited ‘smartness’, have clear learning outcomes and goalposts, and have a strong culture of accountability and engagement among a broad community of stakeholders.
    Scandinavian countries, traditionally strong performers, are showing signs of loosing their edge. Finland, the 2012 Index leader, has fallen to 5th place; and Sweden is down from 21st to 24th.
    Notable improvements include Israel (up 12 places to 17th), Russia (up 7 places to 13th) and Poland (up four places to 10th).
    Developing countries populate the lower half of the Index, with Indonesia again ranking last of the 40 nations covered, preceded by Mexico (39th) and Brazil (38th).

    Top 20 countries 2015/2016

    South Korea

    Japan and south-Korea have fierce competition for the 1st rank. Koreans defeated Japan in 3 levels. Japan despite investing in childhood education is compromised in some rankings as no#2 and almost tying with Japan in the ranks. Do you know that children in South Korea attend school often seven-day a week? The national education budget estimated last year was $11,300,000,000. The literacy rate is total 97.9% out of which males are sharing 99.2% and 96.6% of females.
    The GDP (PPP) per capita estimated in 2014 is $34,795.
    Japan

    The technology-based educational structure has provided the nation with some great figures in the knowledge and insight.
    The GDP nearly 5.96 trillion USD is well evident to prove the claim.
    Singapore

    The strong and highly ranked primary education system is none less than 3rd rank in the competition.
    The GDP (PPP) per capita is U$D 64,584 is also number 3rd in the world.
    Hong Kong

    The school education management is pretty much in the way as UK model of education. The educational budget for the last year was $39, 420 per capita. The primary, secondary and higher education levels are exemplary in their approach and work. English and Cantonese Chinese are the mainstream languages for educational texts. The 94.6% literacy rate is making a pretty good sense about the numbers.
    The GDP (PPP) per capita accumulated in 2014 is $404.892 billion.
    Finland

    The old champion is loosing ground to it´s asian rivals. A number of folks still consider Finland as no#1 in the best educational system which exactly isn’t the fact anymore. The premature child admission is a big drawback in the system. The no tuition fees system has an annual educational budget of €11.1 billion.
    The country’s Gross domestic product wasn’t less than $36,395 (per capita).
    UK

    With the devolution of the Education in UK, the individual governments are administrating the matters relating education on their own. The Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish and English governments are minding their businesses on an individual basis instead of a collective dealing under kingdom’s authorities. The Pearson has ranked UK second in the European ranks and given the rank of #6 in the worldwide ratings in their 2014 publication. However, as a matter of fact Scottish system has a slight edge over the England when it comes to comparative competitiveness.
    The GDP per capita is 21st highest in the world with $38,711.
    Canada

    English and French are the primary levels for interacting with bookish knowledge. The literacy rates are not less than 99% (Both male & female). The attainment ratio is also recording good percentages. The college graduates have the world’s highest ratio. The Canadians follow compulsion in the education up to the 16 (most provinces) or 18 years (exception for a couple). The educational calendar varies from 180-190 days. The results will be impressive to a great extent after prioritising the investments in childhood education.
    GDP per Capita: $44,656 Canada is investing 5.4% of its Gross Domestic Product in the education sector.
    Netherlands

    The low investments, weak planning and management in the high school education, have put Netherlanders on 8th in the ranking.
    GDP per Capita: $42,586
    Ireland

    The literacy rate is 99% for each male and female. The education in the country is free for all levels from primary to third or college/university level. The students from the European Union are the only to be charged for fees and funds, mainly the tuition fees.
    The Irish government is having an investment of 8.759 billion euro annually on the education.
    Poland

    The polish ministry of education is heading the business in the country. The Pearson and Economist combine ranked the country as the 4th best in Europe and the no#10 in the world on the accounts of its well established primary, secondary (lower and upper) educational bases.
    GDP per Capita: $21,118
    Denmark

    The Denmark’s educational structure consists of Pre-school, primary, secondary, higher and adult education. The secondary education further divided into gymnasium, higher preparatory, higher commercial, and higher technical and vocational education examination programs. Likewise, post-secondary education also includes a number of programs. The education is compulsory for the children up to the age of 16. The “Folkeskole” or post-secondary education isn’t mandatory, but 82% of the students are enrolled which is a damn positive thing for the nation. The educational and UN’s Human development indexes are among the highest in the world.
    GDP per Capita: $57,998
    Germany

    Germany is dedicated to developing one of the best educational systems in the world. The education is fully a state matter and hence has nothing to do with the federal government. The kindergarten is optional, but the secondary education is compulsory. Secondary education follows five types of schools. German universities are among one of the world’s best institutes and a powerhouse to impart education in Europe.
    GDP per Capita: $41,248
    Russia

    There is much that can be done to improve the ranks as the country has never prioritised or paid heed to the childhood and primary education. The literacy rate is rounded off to 100%. A World Bank survey figured the 54% of Russian labor force as graduated which is undoubtedly the highest achievement in college level education in the world. The current educational expenditures are above 20 billion USD of the year 2011.
    GDP per Capita: $14,645
    United States

    Many would fancy US as the nation top ranked in the education systems which is a far off thing. Despite a well developed and one of the strongest economies in the world, the educational systems are ranked are not even cracking in the top 10. The $1.3 trillion (overall) national educational budget is earning a literacy rate of 99% (both male & female). 81.5 million Students are enrolled annually with 38% in primary, 26% secondary and 20.5 million making to post-secondary. 85% of the students have attained the secondary diploma while other 30% of the post-secondary diploma holders are also estimated. All the citizens are entitled to free education until high school education.
    GDP per Capita: $54,980 (6th highest in the world)
    Australia

    The annual budget is more than $490 million more than 5.10% of GDP in 2009. The English is the primary mode of education in the country. The primary literacy rate is nearly 2 million. The nation owns 99% literacy rate. Secondary diplomas mark a percentage of 75 while post-secondary diploma has 34% attainment. The states and territories are almost in full control of their respective educational systems and boards. The PISA has evaluated the Australian education system in terms of reading, science and mathematics as 6th, 7th & 9th. The Pearson ranked Australian education as #13 in the world.
    GDP per Capita: $44,346
    New Zealand

    The national education spending incurred by the ministry is NZ$13,183 million for the session 2014-15. English & Maori are the mainstream languages to get educated. The poor primary test scores are a major setback to improve ranks. The PISA accumulates the country 7th in science and reading each while 13ht in math. The education index amassed by HDI ranks country highest in the world but it only assesses the childhood years spent at school instead of the achievement levels.
    GDP per Capita: $30,493
    Israel

    The approximately 28 billion Sheqel budget manages the educational business in the country. Hebrew and Arabic support the education in the country. The literacy rate of both males and females is cracking the 100% mark. The primary, middle and high school education make the comprehensive education system of the country. OECD ranked Israel as second most educated nation in the world in 2012. The report revealed the fact that 78% of investments being drawn are public while 45% of the citizens have made to high school or University/college education. The lower rank suggests the very common reason which is obviously poor investment levels in primary and child education.
    GDP per Capita: $35,658
    Belgium

    Belgium has a diverse education system mainly financed, run and administered by Flemish, German-speaking and French. The federal government has to play a minimal role in sponsoring and funding the community’s education systems. The education in the country is compulsory up to secondary schooling. All the communities follow the same stages of education including basic, preschool, primary, secondary, higher, university and vocational levels. The UN’s education index ranked country 18th in the world.
    GDP per Capita: $38,826
    Czech Republic

    The education is free and has compulsion up to the age of 15. The education system mainly has five divisions including pre-school, elementary, high school, colleges, and universities.
    GDP per Capita: $28,086
    Switzerland

    The education is purely a matter taken by the cantons. The primary education is obligatory for the children in the Swiss state. 10 of the total universities in the confederation are owned and run by the cantons while the remaining two are under federal jurisdiction managed and controlled by State Secretariat for Education, Research and Innovation. Basel is well-known for hosting the centuries-old university of Swiss confederation founded in 1460 and well-known for the medicine and chemical research. The Switzerland has the second highest rank after Australia for enrolment of foreign students in tertiary education. The country owns a relative higher numbers of Nobel Laureates. The country is ranked 25th in science, 8th in math and 15th in overall positions. The Global Competitiveness Report released by World Economic Forum ranked country no#1.
    GDP per Capita: 47,863 (8th highest in the world)

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  • @ Ping Pong
    Barbados, Estonia, Japan, Ireland and Qatar (which are on the list of the best school systems) are not mentioned in the list of the most educated countries.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    That is because these are two COMPLETELY different measures, and hence the ratings can be significantly different.

    Barbados DOES have an excellent SYSTEM and STRUCTURE. The compulsory, uniformed, and universal culture of education, that is supported in Law, and fully ingrained in the psyche of all citizens …is very hard to beat.
    Add the fact that the country spared little expense in funding this structure, and it is not hard to see how we can be top-ten globally.

    That is like the ‘POWER’.

    The label of ‘most educated’ derives from the APPLICATION of that power towards meaningful RESULTS. Here we fail spectacularly….. too many brass bowl wrong pegs in square holes.

    Despite this almost model STRUCTURE, we have not been able to produce persons competent to manage our national banks, utilities, and supermarkets…
    …We cannot find a dozen competent politicians that can actually produce results…
    …We are selling our family silver to buy food and necessities of living…

    Meanwhile, other countries with more basic systems, have been able to produce graduates who now run things in Barbados…..

    So while we have a top-of-the-line D9 caterpillar available to run our farm, others with a simple little shiite whacker are outdoing us in terms of actual produce…. while we waste time and money polishing the damn D9 ….instead of putting it to WORK.

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  • Bush Tea

    agree with your post re: the different measures. My point is that one needs to be critical in the what such lists may mean. What I think is laughable is that the Deputy Council Chairman of CXC should repeat a claim from an internet article that is not substantiated in the very report from which the claim is said to be based. What is further sad is that the CXC official would not use or refer to the data at her fingertips (i.e the CXC exam results) to substantiate the claim of the “9th best educational system in the world”!

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  • @Bush Tea Ping Pong

    Surely there are civil servants you should feel duty bound to share information about the performance of our schools over the years? Why is it we have had to suffer the stony silence?

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    What Gabreil is missing is that the article he has swallowed as gospel and which the female is erroneously touting as factual does not include techical high schools, technical colleges, colleges or universities and appears to me that the rating seifically targets and relates to grade schools only…..in other words primary schools.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    So Bushman….you are sayig that the Barbados education system is a huge success, top ranking in the world, but all the students who benefitted from it in the last 50 years and are now the leaders of government etc…are failures…tut, tut, tut.

    Well obviously, if those who never boast about having the best education system, better than anyone else in the Caribbean, are the same unassuming business people from several other Caribbean islands now have controlling interests in just about everything on the island. ..I get ya point and have to seep on it.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Sleep, sleep..lol

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    http://ow.ly/tLyi306MOby

    Another way the top education systems in the world are rated and ranked..

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Totally unfortunate but another 50 year lesson coming up where “less educated” people from large countries and other small islands will continue to be the driving forces for businesses in Barbados, having the best educated local employees working for them, in many cases for substandard, unlivable wages, and controlling everything else on the island, including total control of those best educated politicians in parliament.

    Another 50 year lesson coming up where minorities who never finished high school or never aquired advanced education will still be the bosses of the best educated majority on the island and in the Caribbean, the vicious descendants of the likes of Merchandi who pay employees crap money can continue to boast they have the best educated working for unlivable wages in their mediocre stores.

    I don’t know about the boast of exporting the best educated, most have to fight to get out of Barbados on their own and when they finally spend decades in larger countries and try to return to contribute to the island, they are ignored, unwanted by the best educated in parliament and in the society, they are never respected, welcomed or courted to entice the over 1/2 million or more of them and their families living worldwide to return to the island and invest….

    …..the best educated in parliament much prefer entice the Del Mastros, the Clare Cowans and keep the Maloneys, Bjerkhams, Cow, Bizzy, Harris’ and Parris’ to run scams and destroy the island’s reputation and integrity, they much prefer cort prefer the Butch Stewarts and Sandals Hotel, whom Owen Arthur 4 years later, the best educated economist in the Caribbean as claimed, is now lamenting that giving away 40 years worth of concessions to Sandals by the best educated in parliament…is proving to be as some of us, the less educated, have said on here from day one, to be a very expensive, to the taxpayers, and collossal mistake made by the best educared in parliament…it is breaking the country….just imagine the next 40 years of concessions to Sandals and it’s negative impact on the majority.

    The best educated only know how to sit back and depend on tourism, nothing else, nothing better to uplift the island and people…that is what having the best educated at taxpayer’s expense got the people of Barbados…they are getting what they paid for. ..in spades,….

    The best educated in parliament did not know that if they left 150 year old water pipes, built by slaves, without maintenace or upgrades, they will rupture and cause problems with distribution of water to the population, the best educated did not know that if you do not maintain and upgrade 40 year old sewerage pipes they will back up and spew poop in the streets and into the sea.

    The best educated do not know that food should be grown locally and food imports slashed by half…to save on foreign exchange.

    The best educated do not know that they are supposed to put their own people FIRST.,..at all times.

    The best educated population do not know that they are NOT supposed to accept any of the above stupid and unnecessary deliberate or unconscious mistakes from the best educated leaders in the Caribbean.

    The best educated DO NOT KNOW that they should NEVER accept anyone from buckingham palace going into the island and blatantly telling them, broadcasting it worldwide, that they are still owned like chattle slaves by a dried up old racist hag and the monsters in buckibgham palace.

    The best educated do not know that their education system is at least 20 years overdue for an upgrade.

    The nationnews papers do not do any international research, they do not even do any decent local research…I am sure they self-praise themselves as the best journalists in the world also.

    If ya going to boast of being the best educated, at least make sure the island reflects that boast, the leaders reflect that boast and the people at least act like they understand that taxpayers for the last 50 years have paid for them to act like they are the best educated….and reflect that boast.

    The Bushman…that is my take on being the best educated, as you rightfully said, square pegs in round holes…lol

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  • @ WW&C
    The STRUCTURE of education in Barbados does merit some praise.
    This structure has been in place for 50 years and has been so ingrained, that despite the clear FAILING results since the 1980’s, no meaningful changes have been made to it.

    The truth is that the problem is NOT with the SYSTEM itself, but with the approach (which should be meritocratic and focused on producing and refining QUALITY).

    @ Ping Pong
    The CXC people are mere distractions.
    The woman could not use the CXC results to discuss any claim of performance for the simple reason that those ‘results’ are meaningless.
    CXC was always a waste of money, time and effort…..Just another CSME exercise in futility.

    The SINGLE area of life where you DO NOT WANT to be internal-looking is when it comes to the evaluation of quality. This is where you want to use the most common GLOBAL yardstick of measurement so that you can HONESTLY see how you measure up against global standards.

    CXC is like a school doing their own internal exams, and then expecting other schools to respect their students results. Added to this, we ALL know that the exams are compromised with stupid schemes like SBAs… which contribute up to 40% of the marks – and which are routinely done by other persons rather than the student.
    Most importantly, nobody out there in the world really cares about CXC results… especially given the ACTUAL performance of current CXC holders compared to our old GCE certificate holders of the past.

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  • How did comments drift so far out of left field from the article query of time management and its application to children education,
    My bone of contention is not in disagreement with the blog master assertion of simplistic solution which can be implemented to the ongoing precious lost time that children have to endure due to ongoing issues with their school closures
    The contentious part however lays within such a solution that would involve discussions with other voices which includes unions who have so far shown an advocacy to fight against any or all solutions within a shortened period, which then aggravate ad escalate to a point where other longstanding issues are brought into the equation which develops more stagnation and does more harm than good
    Some times on the face of the the theoretical all seems good but when practicality and facts are brought on board then a different pictures evolves with all shades of lighting
    Simplicity at times measures up to frivolous perceptions
    In the Combermere issue yes time is of essence to the children’s education however since govt have gone down that road before to do diligence in a swift period of time for reopening of the school , the lesson learnt here should be one adapted to efficiency and a making sure that all the necessary requirements that are applicable to environmental issues are correctly put in place
    It makes no sense to reopen a school until the proper work is done and inspection of
    the place is thoroughly approved
    If there are those major players with in the school system especially the vocal lot who runs back and forth to the media about the Combermere issue find the necessity of importance to bring the issue of extended makeup time for the children education their can do so but so far many of such players have been quite on anything having to do with vacation as an extension for lost school periods and the question of such silence remains only known to themselves

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Bushman…I may seem tough on the subject but I totally sgree.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Agree.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/91061/visitors-upset-closed-beach

    The world’s best educated are getting better and better after swimming in John Boyce’s brackish water, a tourist was alledgedly hospitalized, but dont worry says John Boyce, there is no sewage running into the sea, the water is fine….in his mind the tourist was hospitalized for swimming in uncontaminated brackish water…and that is who they got for minister of health, best educated in the world…lol

    As soon as the word “allegedly” pops up, they are trying to throw up barricades against a lawsuit, but the visitor might be able to handle them better than they think.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/91065/mwansa-invited-sewage

    Someone is using their brain though, let lying Mwansa see and smell for himself…lol

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  • Jeffrey Headley the retired Chief Environmental Officer is suggesting that the septic tanks at Combermere School are experiencing overload.I have always thought that while the school was built for boys there appears to be no thought given by the ‘authorities’to the introduction of females both pupils and to a lesser extent staff and the increased usage of water per day flowing to those septic tanks.

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  • @Gabriel

    Does Headley’s view override that of the headmaster?

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  • In some quarters Headley’s view might be viewed as political and so does Parris’s.I would defer to Headley the professional seeing that Parris with all his expertise and on the job know how and know when and know where is yet caffufled and clutching at straws.

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  • David December 4, 2016 at 12:57 PM #

    Could you post a link to Headley’s view.

    Headley is the professional in the required field not the Headmaster.

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  • Headley opinions are just that as he no longer works as a an environmentalist in govt and will be absent of all the environmental findings concerning Combermere
    Comparing other old schools environmental issues to Combermere is like a doctor taking another patients medical records and accessing that the new patient with siilar syptos are correlated
    Any reputable environmentalist worth his weigh in gold would wait until all findings are complete before shooting off his mouth publicly especially if he is not engaged first hand with the issue at hand

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  • Headley makes reference to two schools abandoned unnecessarily so.I think with almost 30 years of experience neither ac nor Parris should dismiss his opinion.A retired public officer with specialized training ought to give an unbiased opinion on matters he is competent to speak on.After years of mandatory silence,retired public servants should rightly speak out on the many faux pas these miscreants for a cabinet would wish concealed from the public domain.

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  • @ndtewarie December 3, 2016 at 11:11 AM “CAN ANYONE OF YOU ,GOOD BAJANS EXPLAIN TO US OUTSIDERS, WHAT IS MEANT BY THE PHRASE,” GOD IS NOT A BAJAN”?

    Some of us think that we have been so blessed that God must be one of us, that is God must be a Bajan,who looks out specially for us.

    Some of us think otherwise, that we Bajans suffer “acts of God” just the same as non-Bajans do, therefore God must not be a Bajan, and must not hold Bajans in any special favour

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  • One can but laugh……

    Headley opinions are just that as he no longer works as a an environmentalist in govt and will be absent of all the environmental findings concerning Combermere
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    So once you stop working all knowledge ceases……and the new fellows have to do a study…….are we serious in this country???

    Headleys opinion was coroborated on Brasstacks some weeks ago by the last contractor to pump wells,who said the wells have not been pumped for 5 years since his contract was terminated.

    Pump the wells put in new sewer plumbing and reseal all openings….what is so difficult about that.

    Mr Headley now deceased the former school caretaker would have had that problem solved long time….but he was a seventh standard boy not a UWI brainiac with nuff degrees like those that are presently studying the situation……ah wonder what they are charging per hour?

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  • My comment stands as stated .Take them or leave them.
    Could not see Headley standing before a judge and presenting evidence on a case which he was not involved to knowing all the facts just because of his professional line of work
    Have a nice day

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  • @Vincent

    Why do you bother?

    ac is a yard fowl.

    Good to hear Mia coming out to ask why has it taken 3 week to cover the sewer wells that were a result of sabotage according to Parris.

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  • RETIRED ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERT Jeffrey Headley

    “Headley, who headed the Environmental Protection Department (EPD) for over 27 years before retiring three years ago, said it was the overloading of the school’s only septic tank that resulted in the stench which has caused students and teachers to become ill.”

    Why not test his theory ?

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  • @Hants

    There is more to this matter than the public is aware. We wait for the MOE to release the epidemiological report as promised to the PTA last week. Obviously Headley must be speaking from a position of insider knowledge.

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  • Insider formation same as throwing spaghetti in the air and hoping some stick
    Does not tell the whole story

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  • Your hignorance knows no bounds!

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  • Vincent
    I recall Mr Headley,Mr Toppin and Mr Bowen( he was the youngest)who served as Porters during my time at Weymouth.Would Jeffrey Headley be related?

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  • Gabriel

    I dont know but I was told that this one grew up at a house opposite the back gate and we know that Mr Headley used to ride to work and back everyday.

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  • Bug off David

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  • David

    We have to comment from time to time when it is such a glaring breach of common sense……posterity must be made aware that all on BU of this era are not cut from the same cloth and they can judge us.

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  • @Vincent

    What is difficult to understand is what reports have the MOE promised to release? As we understand it the epidemiology report must be done with the people in the sick environment. What report was done? Is this the same Headley who probed the Roebuck Secondary School matter?

    We note 70 persons have reportedly died of cancer who worked at Roebuck Street and 2 so far from Combermere. Coincidence or not…

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @David, re “We note 70 persons have reportedly died of cancer who worked at Roebuck Street and 2 so far from Combermere. Coincidence or not…”

    Isn’t this a bit inflammatory. I interpreted the current Combermere and Louis Lynch matters as completely different issues.

    Juxtaposing two cancer death at Waterford compared to those at Roebuck Street is also a clear indication of disparate issues – at first and second glance.

    How many persons died from cancer at HC or Lodge or CP … all old style buildings which one assumes are like Combermere?

    How many persons died of cancer whose environment was allegedly badly affected by the ‘toxins’ from working in close proximity to a dry cleaning operation?

    Different !

    Stench from sewerage is trivial compared to the possible serious health concerns for those exposed to allegedly other deadly toxins. Thus when I read Mr Headley’s remarks I was taken aback that he conflated Louis Lynch and Combermere.

    Do you and he know something that the teachers and students at Waterford need to know????

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  • The Treasury Building which housed Inland Revenue was also thought to have been the source of death by cancer of some of their staff.

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  • @Dee Word

    WE the PEOPLE will have to continue to ask the hard questions until OUR government elected to SERVE the people level with us. The point: both the Roebuck and Combermere issues have one hing in common, lack of transparency by the authorities!

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