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Submitted by Dr. Justin Robinson
Dr. Justin Robinson
Dr. Justin Robinson

On Tuesday September 22 2015, approximately 20% of the shares in Banks Holdings Limited (BHL) were acquired by SLU Beverages Limited (โ€˜SLUโ€™), a St. Lucian company. When combined with BHL shares [โ€ฆ]already held by SLU,

the above-mentioned transaction resulted in SLU owning approximately 40% of the shares in BHL. SLU is majority owned by Companhia de Bebidas Das Amรฉricas – AmBev (โ€˜AmBevโ€™), which is controlled by Anheuser-Busch InBev. AmBev is the largest brewery in Latin America and the fifth largest in the world. Ambev operates in 14 countries in the Americas and its portfolio includes beers like Antarctica, Brahma, Bohemia, Skol, Stella Artois and soft drinks like Guaranรก. As the largest PepsiCo bottler outside United States, it sells and distributes PepsiCo products in Brazil and other Latin American countries.

On September 22 2015, Ambev purchased 13,170,728 BHL shares traded at $4 per share, paying approximately BDS$52,682,912.00. On that date, BHLโ€™s share price on the stock exchange was BDS$2.49 per share. AmBev therefore paid a substantial premium of about 60% over and above the most recent stock market price on the Barbados Stock Market. However, BHLโ€™s Balance Sheet for the nine months ended May 31 2015, valued the shares at BDS $4.81 each. The Balance Sheet reports shareholdersโ€™ equity of BDS $311,812,000, and with approximately 64,853,760 shares outstanding, the book value per share was approximately BDS $4.81. Therefore, on September 22 2015, BHLโ€™s balance sheet valued the shares at BDS $4.81 each, the Barbados stock market valued the shares at BDS$2.49 each, while AmBev was willing to pay BDS $4.00 per share. Is AmBev really paying a premium or getting a steal of a deal? They are paying sixty percent more than the stock market valuation, but paying a 20% discount on the book value of the company.

The balance sheet value of the shares or what is termed the book value per share, is typically viewed as a backward looking measure based on the book value of the companiesโ€™ assets and liabilities. It does not account for the market value of assets and liabilities or future earnings potential. The stock market valuation is supposed to do that, and reflect the book value plus future growth potential. When you sell a company you not only sell the company as is but you also sell the future growth potential, and investors normally expect to be compensated for such, and buyers typically pay a premium.

On the surface the stock market price of BDS$2.49 compared to a book value of BDS $4.81 suggests that investors on the Barbados Stock Exchange view the future growth potential of BHL as being negative. Companiesโ€™ shares being sold at prices below their book values is extremely rare on most stock markets and is typically associated with companies in financial distress and facing bleak futures. I doubt investors see a bleak future for BHL and negative growth potential. I think the low market value is due to the infrequent level of trading on the Barbados Stock Exchange. Stock prices only change when trades of a certain volume are made. The infrequent trading means that stock prices are not being regularly updated to reflect the current book value and future growth potential of companies. Stock market prices only come close to reflecting the true value of companies if there is sufficient trading by informed investors. I am sure we have lots of informed investors in Barbados and the Caribbean, what we appear to lack is sufficient trading, or a group of what economists call โ€œmarginal investorsโ€. Marginal investors are investors who are willing to buy and sell shares regularly at prices based on their estimates of the future direction of a stock price. Marginal investors are typically institutional investors such as mutual funds, insurance companies and other professional investors.

Why with so many informed and sophisticated institutional investors is there such infrequent trading on the Barbados Stock Exchange? Is this lack of marginal investors leaving companies on the Barbados Stock Exchange seriously undervalued? If this is so, investors are unable to reap the full benefits of their investment and companies are vulnerable to cheap takeovers. Why should I buy shares when market prices only approach realistic levels when there is a takeover bid? Why should local companies be sold at relatively low prices because of consistent undervaluation on the local stock exchange? Oh for some marginal investors! There are many more companies on the Barbados Stock Exchange trading at below book value.


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198 responses to “Are Companies Listed On the Barbados Stock Exchange Seriously Undervalued and Vulnerable To Cheap takeovers?”


  1. @Atrue Freeman

    Is that the way business (this transaction) in Barbados went down? Your description is the black and white, flush out the grew. Think relationship between government and EMERA.


  2. David, if you have to allow someone to take advantage of you to maintain a relationship, it is a relationship that you can do without.


  3. This is true Atrue Freeman and therein you have identified the problem.


  4. @ David
    Investors were paid Barbados Dollars, however presumably EMERA would have paid in Canadian /US dollars into Barbados.
    There was nothing the prevent a large shareholder (with a Board position) from being aware of what was going on and advising / lobbying local shareholders /government on appropriate actions.

    Local shareholders who REALLY wanted to sell could have been paid with local currency (which the Central Bank was printing liberally anyhow) ๐Ÿ™‚

    The BASIC problem was that the DLP were looking for large FOREX inflows at ANY cost… and Stinkliar and Co. are not bright enough to have seen the consequences.

    @ Freeman
    “….it was unlikely that Emera would settle for a non-controlling interest.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Not true.
    Look at their other Caribbean investments.They were initially only interested in the American-owned block.
    The truth probably is that EMERA were surprised that the jackasses were prepared to sell when it was so clear (to any awake Directors at least) that the Company was THAT asset rich.
    Who was the NIS director on the Board?


  5. @Bush Tea

    Ian Carrington

  6. de Ingrunt Word Avatar

    @David, your 8:20 post asks fundamental questions which is evident many bloggers are reluctant to embrace.

    Dr. Robinson raised one fundamental element of any investment being held: realizing the very best value possible at any given time.

    Mr Bush Tea’s counter argument offers an alternative position. But in doing so completely dismisses the validity of Robinson’s Board decision.

    What the government wanted to do with the money after selling the shares is obviously relevant to the overall argument of prudent governance and management but frankly is absolutely irrelevant in my view to whether it was a good decision to convert some of the holdings to cash rather than continue on for another several years with the larger stake.

    The fact that they sold part (got good value) and held part seems to be lost. That seemed quite prudent. Obviously they realized significant profit on that sale.

    What Barbados needs is an activist investment group to agitate and do the things that Atrue Freeman and Mr Bush Tea are advocating.

    It is blowing smoke to actually believe that a government owned NIS will undertake that role.

    Not saying that the esteemed men and women there may not want to adopt such a stance because other large pension orgs worldwide with gov’t backing often are quite ‘activist’ re companies in which they have large holdings. But it’s not practical to expect NIS to be such.

    Again I join you in applauding the good chairman in his activities here.

    More and more Mr Blogmaster your site is establishing a ‘new normal’ for the sensible, modern ‘people to power – power to people’ discourse!

    Job well done to both of you!

    You gotta work now on some of your bloggers. smile!


  7. Some have called on BU for the NIS and Central Bank to be legislated as independent agencies. For obvious reasons.


  8. @ David
    Thanks … that probably explains everything.

    Bushie long ago vowed not to get into arguments with NCOs for the simple reason that such non-commissioned officers have no understanding of the issues discussed by real officers.

    But it CANNOT be too difficult to work out that converting a solid investment – in a Company with REAL, solid and vital national assets – into cash cannot be described as ‘realising significant profit on a sale’.

    …. cuh Shiite!! the ‘profit’ is realised whether the asset is sold on not.
    In fact, that ‘profit’ was there ALL ALONG for anyone with eyes to see – it took Canadians looking in from outside to recognise the VALUE that BL&P represented… same with Banks..

    What does THAT tell you about the local directors?

    It is MUCH more like the prodigal son converting his family assets into cash so that he could ‘go out into the world and have some fun’…
    …..only to come back broke some time later.

    …or like some jackass who spends 20 years building his home block by block with blood and sweat … and does not appreciate what he has built….
    So a stranger comes along and offers him half million dollars for it…. which (in his ignorance) he grabs onto with his eyes on a BMW…
    Only to see the house sold for $ 1.2 million ..and his rent increased to $4,000 per month for the shack he is now forced to live in….

    But then again, brass bowls will be brass bowls…


  9. Bush Tea October 4, 2015 at 8:43 AM # @ Freeman โ€ฆ.it was unlikely that Emera would settle for a non-controlling interest.โ€ +++ Not true.

    Okay, assuming it was likely that Emera would settle for a non-controlling interest, to really win, you have to risk losing, as I said earlier. Losing for the NIS would have been retaining its LPH investment.


  10. “Emera Inc closed lower Friday, dropping $0.19 or 0.43% to $44.01. Over the last five days, shares have gained 2.14% and 13.90% year to date. Shares have outperformed the S&P TSX by 34.83% during the last year.”

    “Halifax power company Emera Inc. has agreed to buy Teco Energy Inc., owner of the electric utility in Tampa, Fla., for $6.5-billion (U.S.) ”

    Emera appears to be a good investment for CanBajans.


  11. Stop bragging Hants ๐Ÿ™‚
    No damn wonder you have so much time to fish…

    So EMERA is worth CAN $ 44.01 /share, while EMERA CARIBBEAN (a full subsidiary with responsibility for much of the EMERA gains over the past 5 years) remains stagnant at the BDS $25/share established at takeover…..

    Presumably they will forcefully buy out the remaining 18% at this low rate before admitting that the value is more like Bds $ 80.00 per share…

    Everyone seems to want to piss into our Brass bowls….

  12. de Ingrunt Word Avatar

    David,you have suggested to me previously that I trivialize debate when I compare Barbadian issues to US or UK issues/institutions so let’s put into perspective the remark: “Some have called on BU for the NIS and Central Bank to be legislated as independent agencies. For obvious reasons.”

    In what context is it practical or realistic to make a first world request as mentioned above in a third-world management and governance economy. In my view that is nothing but a pipe dream.

    Summarily David, no Bajan government would ever give over ‘effective influence’ of those institutions.

    2—on this matter of the NIS divestment let me add this.

    The most astute and sensible action I think would have been 1- to stipulate that the cash payment be made in US currency (but why wouldn’t it have been); 2- use those funds and place them with an international broker and/or at the discretion of an investment team at NIS and invest all proceeds on international markets.

    In that way Mr Robinson and his Board would have realized one of their key intentions of getting some cash out of their lucrative but static BL&P investment and also realized a key second intention: the ability to operate in stocks or other investment instruments on more robust markets.

    So if as noted Dr Robinson and his team’s full intent was to “extract some of the value of the investment” the obvious next step should have been to reinvest those profits in bigger more lucrative opportunities. Anything less was wrong.

    Mr Bush Tea said the government took the cash and disbursed it to suit their operational actions but that suggests that the NIS Board members basically repudiated their duties as custodians of the long term health of the NIS funds.

    And if valid then those Board members of fortitude should have resigned.


  13. @Dee Word

    Agree with the last part of your comment. Dr. Robinson confirmed in his comment the cashing in of part of the NIS holdings was to realize a higher return than organically possible over time. It makes sense the opportunity to place funds overseas beckoned. Why was it not taken advantage of? Some say the government wanted to shore up international reserves; the optics at least.

  14. de Ingrunt Word Avatar

    @Atrue, the Nation’s editorial could almost be considered as written based on BU commentary.

    The writer noted that the financials show that there is a 35% ownership by small shareholders. If we assume that the majority of that group are Bajans like Doug Skeete, Dr Frank Alleyne and others who know finance and investment really well then don’t you have to wonder why these issues of takeover ownership are only now of such public interest.

    BHL was always a jewel. Even in the days of the ‘wondrous’ BS&T.

    So I suggest to you that we are at this point today because of indifference of very knowledgeable shareholders. The time to action was years ago. Wringing our hands now is futile unless we have a track to a very wealthy investor.

    What will be done for the next round? Will Goddards be picked up like BS&T too? Are we ready to ensure that doesn’t happen or just to wring our hands again when it does.

    Here are a few comments from Mr Editor at the Nation:

    –“We have to face the fact that this island … is indeed small. We may have been said to punch above our weight but with such a small market space we cannot afford to become ringfenced and isolated and separate and apart from our neighbours. Indeed, the majority of our exports are to the regional market.”

    —“The reality is that in the face of limited capital for investment, our local companies have done well. Our corporate managers have demonstrated competence and expertise in managing even in difficult circumstances. … But it is this success which, …makes them attractive targets for investors with LARGER (my emphasis) pockets and access to finance.”

    —“Given the democratic tenets of our economy, we cannot stop takeover bids aimed at our companies while we pursue SIMILAR (my emphasis) approaches in the region.”

    —“For a start, we may have to carefully examine the bases and principles on which we value the shares of our companies.”

    All points made here on BU in the last several days.


  15. @Bushie,

    I do not have any money in Emera.

    I am too broke to afford to play the stock market. That is for the big shot BajCanadians.

    I have time to fish because I can’t find meaningful ( to me ) employment. lol

    And you are right. Barbados is a profit centre for Trinis and Canucks.


  16. If we can step back from the nuts and bolts of this transaction – what does it say about a so-called highly education island and the lack of financial acumen shown here? Something for our educators to think about.


  17. @David,

    We were educated to be professionals and “workers” not Creators and Investors.

    Education- Job- Land- House Car -Wife -Children. save for retirement.

  18. Walter Blackman Avatar

    Justin Robinson October 3, 2015 at 7:38 AM #

    “NIS would like to increase overseas holdings to diversify the fund, but access to forex is outside our control. We continue to seek forex and other diversification opportunities.”

    de Ingrunt Word October 4, 2015 at 11:40 AM #

    “on this matter of the NIS divestment let me add this.

    The most astute and sensible action I think would have been 1- to stipulate that the cash payment be made in US currency (but why wouldnโ€™t it have been); 2- use those funds and place them with an international broker and/or at the discretion of an investment team at NIS and invest all proceeds on international markets.

    In that way Mr Robinson and his Board would have realized one of their key intentions of getting some cash out of their lucrative but static BL&P investment and also realized a key second intention: the ability to operate in stocks or other investment instruments on more robust markets.

    So if as noted Dr Robinson and his teamโ€™s full intent was to โ€œextract some of the value of the investmentโ€ the obvious next step should have been to reinvest those profits in bigger more lucrative opportunities. Anything less was wrong.

    Mr Bush Tea said the government took the cash and disbursed it to suit their operational actions but that suggests that the NIS Board members basically repudiated their duties as custodians of the long term health of the NIS funds.

    And if valid then those Board members of fortitude should have resigned.”

    de Ingrunt Word,
    I have been following your arguments closely, and, generally speaking, I understand and accept your point of view.

    As I understand it, the National Insurance Board was established with responsibility for the administration of the NIS and its funds.

    Dr. Robinson, as Chairman of the NIS, recently came on BU and gave readers an insight into some of the administrative issues plaguing the NIS. The NIS Board has responsibility for effectively dealing with these issues, so, as an NIS contributor, I felt that it was appropriate, opportune, and proper for me to seek further information and clarification from the Chairman on some of the issues he raised.

    So far, the Chairman has not found anytime out of his busy schedule to answer any of my questions, so I, and other interested BU readers, will continue to wait patiently.

    Here, you have raised an issue related to divestment and investment.

    The NIS Board advises the Minister of Finance on investment and divestment matters, but I believe the ultimate decision rests upon the shoulders of the Minister. If the NIS Board had advised the Minister to “use those funds and place them with an international broker and/or at the discretion of an investment team at NIS and invest all proceeds on international markets” (your words), then the Board would have done its duty, and regardless of what course of action the Minister took, no member of the Board should be called upon, or expected to resign.

    The question is: Did the NIS Board offer such advice to the Minister of Finance?

    We would be wasting our time if we directed such a question at the Chairman of the NIS Board.
    Here’s why (in keeping with Bushie’s line of reasoning): If the Chairman said the Board didn’t offer this advice, then you would be correct and justified in suggesting that “those Board members of fortitude should have resigned”.
    If the Chairman said the Board offered this advice to the Minister, and, by extension, the Minister refused to heed it, the Minister would immediately fire him.

    In this situation, as in so many others, Barbadian taxpayers end up being the losers and victims.


  19. @ Walter
    Name a better investment ANYWHERE that could have attracted the NIS cashing out BL&P shares to exchange for that investment.
    Here is an asset rich company, over 100 years old, profitable for EVERY ONE of those years, and too boot, a company on which the overall productivity and day-to-day operations of the Country relies…
    Add to that, the investment value of those shares just increased by OVER 100%….

  20. de Ingrunt Word Avatar

    @Walter, I am very cautious when I respond to your commentary because you write so craftily and with so much embedded details that it seems as if there a grenade primed to explode within each of your key sentences. (LOL)

    This piece above is no different. But I accept your point that the NIS Board could have discharged their duty and advised accordingly thus cannot be asked to resign because it’s all on the Minister.

    Your alternative point if they didn’t is just as damning of course.

    These discussions go back to the Blogmaster’s unanswered refrain on why the local media do not ask these ‘investigative’ questions of the Minister.

    In fact going to your recent harsh rebuke of the Opp leader, these matters should be raised stoutly by her and her other MPs. But maybe they were and I missed them.


  21. @Bush Tea

    Your 4:10PM comment takes it over the goal line.

  22. de Ingrunt Word Avatar

    @Hants, I presume the we to whom you refer that were “…educated to be professionals and โ€œworkersโ€ not Creators and Investors” are the aimless black boys and girls like most of us here on BU .

    The statement is sweet and resonates well. In fact it is basically accurate but misses the point of any society by the proverbial country mile.

    Educated in the same class-rooms that produced each us here (your “professionals and workersโ€) were the same recently deceased Clarke of Winifred Enterprises, people like Dorsey Boyce who does all the lighting and audio production, the former Jazz promoter Rowe, the guys who made the Troubadours and other past top music bands famous, the man who built Rayside construction and before all them the owners of the old time bus companies.

    And of course when we talk about bus companies we can refer to our present crop of mini-millionaires (if there is such a category) who operate their current mini-bus enterprises.

    And let’s not forget the produce hawkers and traders who have been doing the overseas buy-and-sell to make a living for generations.

    Where did NE Wilson come from? Maybe he was non-Bajan …someone can correct me.

    But my point is simply made. Of course there are thousands of us who settle for the low risk 9-5 gig. But there are also thousands who have made a fist of self employment in various fields.

    And note that I have omitted mention of any white Bajans (like Bizzy, Simpson or COW) and too names of other prominent black Bajan companies (like Everson Elcock, Bynoe, the Budg-Buy guys etc) !!!!


  23. Notwithstanding the missed opportunity to better realize the value of its LPH investment, there is a case for diversifying part of the investment. While LPHโ€™s business may face little risk in terms of demand for its product in the immediate future, many hazards exist that present significant risks to the physical plant. And, with the LPH price more than doubling, there was the possibility of NIS being overweighted in this investment.


  24. @de Ingrunt Word,

    The people you mention are to be commended for choosing their own paths to “success”.

  25. Walter Blackman Avatar

    de Ingrunt Word October 4, 2015 at 4:14 PM #
    “@Walter, I am very cautious when I respond to your commentary because you write so craftily and with so much embedded details that it seems as if there a grenade primed to explode within each of your key sentences. (LOL)”

    de Ingrunt Word,
    You are very perceptive and wise.
    As Shakespeare would say, “we are two lions litter’d in one day”, so you would never guess how much my fingers tremble whenever I write the word “Ingrunt” in addressing you. I paid you the ultimate compliment by googling the word “ingrunt” to make sure you were not pulling a fast one on me! LOL.

    On a more serious note, you have to always bear in mind that I am not using a moniker. So, in keeping with the topic under discussion here related to takeovers, I have to hide a few poison “puts” in my writing to deal with hostile bloggers who naively think that I am unprotected and defenceless.

    de Ingrunt Word October 4, 2015 at 4:14 PM #

    “In fact going to your recent harsh rebuke of the Opp leader, these matters should be raised stoutly by her and her other MPs. But maybe they were and I missed them.”

    Let us give them the benefit of the doubt and say that these matters were indeed raised by the Opp leader and her other MPs in rooms reserved only for the political class. Thus, you, I, and every other member of the electorate missed them. LOL.

    As Spock used to say, “live long and prosper”, my friend.

  26. Walter Blackman Avatar

    Bush Tea October 4, 2015 at 4:10 PM #
    “@ Walter
    Name a better investment ANYWHERE that could have attracted the NIS cashing out BL&P shares to exchange for that investment.”

    Bush Tea,
    The ongoing discussion was dealing with how the money should have been used AFTER the NIS cashed out some of its BL&P shares. Given the fact that the shares were cashed, de Ingrunt Word suggested that the funds should have been invested overseas. I support that suggestion.
    You are arguing that the shares should not have been cashed out in the first place. I readily support your argument also.

    The very worst action, that ought not to have happened, was for government to cash in the shares, squander the funds, and give the NIS worthless government paper to hold. Such action, as de Ingrunt Word hinted, would demonstrate that no consideration was being paid to the long-term health of the NIS. But this is precisely what you, I, and many other Barbadians believe happened.

    By the way, now that we are talking about the investment of NIS funds in BL&P, Barbadians owe a huge debt of gratitude to Mr. William Layne, who, more so than anyone else, was instrumental in spreading and diversifying NIS funds away from being invested primarily in Government paper.

  27. de Ingrunt Word Avatar

    @ Walter, funny that you should mention Mr Spock as I was thinking of Star Trek and futuristic things as I read remarks related to Bush Tea on another blog thread.

    Whereas others suggested that the good gentleman was in some type of utopia I wondered if in fact we are not the ones in an alternate universe and Bush Tea is the only one speaking truth in this universe…

    Anyhow, all that quasi existentialism aside i disagreed with his view that partial divesting in BL&P was ill-advised.

    Of course wise men (and fools too) can legitimately disagree on an investment strategy but if in fact the stated intent was to diversify that divestment into international markets then I think it was a prudent move.

    Just as you noted that Mr Layne saw the folly with too much investment in local government paper then now as we move forward in our global village connectivity and moreso as we see the extent of natural disaster on regional economies it is wise to shift some of the NIS local investments off-shore.

    Of course I have no idea how much they already have there.

    The issue of the 100% increase in BL&P shares is moot I would offer. In fact based on that incremental upside a smart fund manager would definitely take profits out and move into other trending upside opportunities.

    But different strokes for different folks.

    To Lenord Nimoy; indeed may his spirited focus on logical thinking and reason live long and help us prosper.


  28. @ Dee Word
    The issue of the 100% increase in BL&P shares is moot I would offer. In fact based on that incremental upside a smart fund manager would definitely take profits out and move into other trending upside opportunities.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    That you feel confident to offer such financial advice publicly on BU leads Bushie to conclude that you are a successful multi-millionaire with a track record of good results in such areas….somewhat like Bushie.. ๐Ÿ™‚

    That being the case, you are indeed justified in tossing such advice around …where gullible (although blessedly poor) bloggers such as Dompey and AC may be tempted to follow your advice. Not Caswell though – he poor like a church mouse… lol

    If on the other hand you are some poor schmutt fighting with a mortgage and multiple credit card payments monthly you would be well advised to hush!

    Light and Power happens to be the productive “engine” of Barbados. The Government’s holding of interest (shares) and control (Board clout) is the equivalent of your ownership of your own home.
    If you, or those of your close family, do not have a controlling interest in your own home then you are two wuk-ups away from homelessness.
    What other investment is worth the risk of selling your home (which has been appreciating in value due to your good care) in order to ‘divest’ the funds derived?
    What ‘overseas investment’ what??!!
    That refers to a different category of investment being diversified to avoid having too many eggs in one (the local) basket. Perhaps YOU would like to sell your home to EMERA and invest in some ‘trending-upside’ opportunity overseas…??

    As Bushie said, The NIS Board SHOULD have taken the opportunity to enhance its stake in our national engine BL&P – which ALSO happens to be a gilt-edged investment (as Emera has demonstrated).

    Perhaps like Dompey, you just read too much shiite that you don’t fully understand Dee Ingrunt W…. ๐Ÿ™‚


  29. In essence what Bushie in his inimical style stated is that BL&P (before EMERA) is a strategic asset and decisions should have taken this into consideration. How can we build a country with an identity that is uniquely Barbadian?

  30. de Ingrunt Word Avatar

    @ Bushie, I am the “poor schmutt fighting” so I will hush but just before I do.

    You are one type of investment manager there are others.

    Let’s say that you have a going concern small B&B down on some beach front in Prospect. Let’s be specific and go into your bailiwick.

    So let’s say a scion of Lord Combermere came and offered US $1M for the family owned property. Wow. It was valued at Bds$1M.

    So one of your smart fam members advises to graciously decline the offer and he arranges a SECOND mortgage on the property and takes out Bds$500K. He then arranges with a buddy who works in banking in US to move the money to US (all legal and ting) and wants to go gilt edge in stocks etc.

    You were adamant against that strategy and admonished, “What โ€˜overseas investmentโ€™ what??!!” You advised that the investment go to Elmera our local engine.

    For the sake of this hypothetical let’s assume this take place in Nov 2008 or thereabouts. Citibank @ $3.77 a pop, Morgan Stanley $10.05, AIG $1,60, Goldman $47.41 to name a few.

    That relative to keep the peace split 50% to you and your BL&P investment and dropped the other US$125K on the market and with two other partners on some property in a really nice neighborhood in Miami where things had tanked.

    Now fast forward. You have your 100% stock increase when Elmera offered fro BL&P and you are really pissed you didn’t have the entire $500K there.

    But lo and behold Citibank popped to $46.95/1,245% delta in JAN of this year. AIG @ $48.87/3054%. Morgan @$33.81/336% and Goldman @$172.41/364%.

    And the Miami real estate market back in full swing and is again a sellers’ market.

    Now I am still the “poor schmutt fighting” but it seems that the US move was a roaring improvement on staying fully invested locally.

    BTW, all the stock numbers are REAL as of the date back in Jan 2015 and Nov 2008..

    As i said before Mr Bush Tea, different investment strategies for different folks. But alawys one needs to be practical and rational.

    Nothing wrong with investing in Elmera. That’s a great risk. It does not mean however that there are no better opportunities other places.

    Barbados is too small to think as linear as you do but if you perceive that is a wise and practical approach then by all means carry on smartly.


  31. Years ago,the Barbados Electric Supply Co supplied Barbados with its electricity.In the 50’s and during the premiership of Grantley Adams and a BLP government,changes came to the power company and among other things it’s name was changed to BL&P Co Ltd,whereupon the political detractors cried foul,saying the BLP renamed the company to reflect its true ownership using the same letters as the party.Uniqely Barbadian and as old as the hills,until an unfortunate calamity in the name of Stinkliar and his DLP house of Stuart’s came along and ceded ownership and control to Canadians.It is akin to selling Barbados Water Authority to Cahill.

  32. Walter Blackman Avatar

    de Ingrunt Word October 4, 2015 at 8:26 PM #
    “Anyhow, all that quasi existentialism aside i disagreed with his view that partial divesting in BL&P was ill-advised.”

    de Ingrunt Word,
    If you knew that Government would take out the funds from BL&P, “borrow” it, and then give the NIS government paper to hold, would you have supported the partial divestment? I think not.

    The actuary is recommending that more NIS funds be placed in overseas investments, and your argument is supporting that recommendation. On the other hand, to be fair, the actuary is not saying that 0% investment be made locally. If I am reading Bush Tea correctly, he is saying that any local investment NIS makes should be placed and kept in entities like EMERA.

    If I were the Minister of Finance, you and Bush Tea would be the first two persons I would select for the NIS investment committee. Your “thesis” and Bushie’s “antithesis” would enable me to formulate the “synthesis” I would need to make a good decision.


  33. The Barbados Government could hold 100% of LPH if it wanted to. Any prudent insurance company or fund would limit its exposure to any one entity, unless that entity represented a small percentage of its investment portfolio.


  34. Bushie et al

    Please be aware that the key factor is the lack of liquidity in Bim. Even huge Corps encounter such problems in the financially sophisticated Nations ie Glencore’s price dropped 27% in one day last week! This is a massive Mining Corp in Switzerland that is also quoted in US and UK. When you have little Demand shyte happens! Indeed Glencore is down 80%!

    This is why Bim’s so called leaders should be fixated on running the Nation to attract Entrepreneurs, Financiers etc, to encourage locals to invest for their future by monthly Stock plans or Mutual Fund Plans. Sure there are many other steps to be taken in correctly directed Education etc.

    The problem is that the Cbean and Bim are in reverse now with the big Cnd Banks taking a wicked beating and as we should appreciate healthy Banking is essential to building for the future ie financing. The truth is that the entire Western World is very vulnerable to a Deflationary Depression in the very near future, and this will not help Bim. Please advise all to plant a market garden, buy a fishing line, some sheep (real sheep not the stupid people) and ensure a measure of independence. Oh dont forget to acquire some weapons to defend your property!


  35. Steupssss
    A promise is a comfort to any fool…
    That is the EXACT same sorta shiite that the EMERA people said when they were looking to seal the sweetheart BL&P deal too…
    …and what the Trickidadians said when about to buy BNB …and BS&T too…

    What the hell did you think Bushie would say to Islandgal when he was about to get the ting…?
    This is TRUE love sweetness…
    Um is you and Bushie for EVER honey…
    put down the 2X4 and relax darling…

    Would you expect the bushman to admit any plans to hit and run …with the 2X4… ???


  36. Let us hope that the larger shareholders, such as Sagicor, reject this offer. Given the knowledge of these investors, the reference to the trading price of a thinly traded stock on the BSE to support their $4 offer is a clear sign that the $4 is below the real value. They already know that the value is not reflected in the trading price in this case.

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/73030/banks-bucks


  37. Dr . Don appears to be inside with the BU Bush Tea view.

  38. de Ingrunt Word Avatar

    @Atrue, I have read your posts on this subject with keen interest and welcome your insights and perception. However, I am unclear how your comment “Let us hope that the larger shareholders, such as Sagicor, reject this offer… their $4 offer is a clear sign that the $4 is below the real value…” is meaningful.

    Even if the last group of big shareholders do not sell to allow SLU controlling interest how does that prevent SLU from implementing their will at BHL with such a majority stake? It will not!

    @David, I would also cite Bush Tea relative to the comments of Dr Don but to lambaste his ivory tower intellectual barn speech after the horse has long bolted. As the Bushman has said pellucidly in the past, folks like Dr Marshall have failed to provide the analysis and public awareness their intellect and training demands.

    His remarks are no better than one of the local politicians offering sweet platitudes or like Bush Tea’s platitudes to Islandgal. Not sure exactly what the doc is trying to get here though.

    When did Banks not try to be efficient and give their beer as much marketing omph as possible with all those fancy taste awards from the international beer industry and all the stuff they did over the years.

    I am sure he is well aware that beers proliferate through the region and every country pumps their local suds strongly so I am unclear how exactly Banks would have made its regional or international impact without partnership with a bigger player or acquisition of other beer companies.

    Seems to me that was the exact intent with the SLU loan and relationship back a few years ago and it also seems to me that GHL obviously bit off more than they could chew or were naive. Cause they are the ones being acquired!!

    Either way why was Dr Marshall and Dr Alleyne and the other well educated economists etc not out there pounding our media with the threats of these possible take overs and using all that talent to organize methodologies to push back…. years ago?

    Did any one talk of Red Stripe and Banks mergers, for example?

    I heard Atrue speak wistfully of a Goddards/Banks relationship; was that proposed by these smarty-pants along with deep dive market research of possible regional corporate integration to stave off ex-regional threats. Details on which we can hang our hats?

    Did they offer investment commentary of possible capital inflows with which our small island players would be able to get the capital needed to acquire others and stave off any and all take over bids if they thought that regional corporate partnership was NOT the way to go?

    Did any of them do that and I missed it?

    Seriously guys, when politicians get up and say the obvious immediately after the horse has left the barn we crucify them; intellectuals at UWI should be treated with no less a critical eye.


  39. Bushie, you are correct about promises BUT the Govt can make it very clear in contractual writing that a long list of contraventions will lead to disapproval for removal of money from Bim eg closure/ decreasing of employees when the promise was to use Bim as a base for growth, disapproval for importation of Beers to replace local production (if Caricom is contravened, burn that agreement).

    Bajan Corps can compete regionally and maybe Internationally BUT our small size will always be a major impediment. What we can do is encourage Entrepreneurism by enlisting experienced Business people and Professionals, especially those retired, to donate time and possibly partner/ finance promising small businesses. Does Bim have a building/ venue for such activity ie Small Business Centre which can become a hotbed of Entrepreneurial activity? Rental offices for small businesses with a few employees? Is Bdos doing enough to magnetically attract Businesses, like a neodymium magnet, from the entire world?

    Government’s major objective should be to create an environment where jobs are being created profusely. We should gear our education at the tertiary level to satisfy high level jobs ie if you study Business or especially Accounting is there a Co-op system similar to practical postings for Medical students? I channeled my children to an excellent Uni that offered such with Blue Chip entities and they both were offered jobs a full year before graduation. UWI seems to have an overly theoretical approach to Accounting/ Business, as I have heard complaints from Accounting firms for years. Why waste our limited funds on theoretical BS? UWI should be actively working with Accounting firms/ ICAB et al to refine their approach. This is exactly what the best Unis in Canada do eg U of Waterloo in Computers/ Engineering.

    Why cant we just use successful concepts with some refinement where required?


  40. To support Moneybrain’s point this government promised 40% government work to small players. This would shift capital/cashflow to deserving players. Although it does address frontally entrepreneurship, it would be a good signal.


  41. Look Money B
    You done know that Bushie likes you …mainly because you seem to have escaped the mass brassification of Bajans… but you would do well to keep OUTA this particular matter…. like Lawson ๐Ÿ™‚

    The GENESIS of this problem is that the 5% white population who inherited 90% of Bajan assets post slavery, and managed to hold on to 70% post independence, now find themselves at a serious loss…

    They CANNOT find any ‘suitable’ youths to whom they can pass on their ‘heritage’ (cause these are mostly “car-racing” “beer drinking” and “woman-chasing” play-boys and blonde gals)…and they SURE AS HELL don’t want to pass it on to the black ‘yard-boys’…

    You can talk all the shiite you like…. but that is why your father sold out to Trinis…
    It is why Fields sold out to Trinis …. it is why Banks now seeking to sell to some white-looking spanish-speaking South Americans… it is why McConney sold out to the Canadians..

    To accomplish this feat, wunna sat at Cattlewash and conspired to keep blacks out of the stock (ownership) market by keeping stock prices RIDICULOUSLY low … to the point where it actually made more sense to put savings on the damn bank. – and this was at a time of unprecedented GROWTH in Barbados….

    Imagine a local public company worth $800M; growing at 10% per year and the shares stuck at $3 for years and years…??!!
    Meanwhile, wunna sponging off the ‘retained earnings’ by various shenanigans like ‘investing’ in other companies (which happen to be controlled by kith and kin); by giving all kinda ‘perks’ to directors and white managers; …. by paying wunna self ridiculous salaries and free benefits like cars, homes, overseas travel….

    You want Bushie to outline how wunna does juggle the books in order to declare minimal ‘profits’ so as to avoid paying taxes AND to depress share prices and dividends? ….and how wunna now don’t even pay in the damn VAT and NIS that belongs to the Government?

    Bushie excuses Dee Ingrunt Word …cause his middle name explains his naivety…. BUT YOU GOTTA KNOW……
    …so don’t mek Bushie vex yuh!!!


  42. @ David
    Steupsss..

    Don’t mind Money B hear…!!! He laughing at you…

    Anyone who depends on a promise from a black Barbados government DESERVES the shiite that they will inherit.
    Money B DONE KNOW that he only gotta wave a few dollars and some shiite minister will reverse that promise post haste… allowing him to make ten-times the cost of the bribe…

    Like the same 40% commitment to small contractors….


  43. Bushie

    You have now created history by suggesting that Black peeps were disadvantaged by LOW Stock prices!!! No other human has ever suggested that Buying Low and Selling High is poor approach to Profits! Anyway, everyone should know that Owning your own business in Bim and most nations, leads to the best returns, especially in a small financial marketplace like Bim. Many Black people appreciate this fact and ACTED accordingly, the majority were not determined to succeed and never attempted to execute the principles of success or even to investigate what those principles are. London Bourne, Miss Pringle and others appreciated that attaining wealth actually has no skin colour requirement over 100 years ago.

    I have been involved in investing since Uni days in London when my Prof mentioned that good Corps were selling real cheap in the late 1970s. Indeed, I repaid my father for the full cost of my education+++ by advising him to switch from Pounds to US$ at the top of that cross rate in 1978 ie he bought US$ real LOW!

    Some of your points have validity but you taint and spoil the apple barrel by spouting nonsense betwix and between. My father was absolutely correct to sell to Trinis as they were the highest bidder, they grew the business and increased jobs, attained whatever financing was available—-good business practice benefiting all constituents. He held absolutely no brief for Whiteys/ Trinis just the desire to receive maximum benefit for his hard work! He only sold 66.66%! You would have conducted yourself similarly in the same situation/ time.(assuming you are business savvy?)


  44. Bushie at 8.59am

    True dat the Govt can not be trusted to execute any growth plan unless they benefitng wid $$$$$$$$$$$! However, that is not the way I roll, UNLESS I am EXTORTED by those in power who can mess with my plans to create jobs!


  45. The Brazilian company that is desirous of taking over BHL is ready to invest millions of dollars to expand production of Banks Beer and create jobs in the process, if their bid is successful.

    AMBEVโ€™s Vice President for Central America and the Caribbean, Eduardo Lacerda, said the companyโ€™s mission was to grow BHL and its โ€œextremely strongโ€ Banks Beer brand, utilizing its current โ€œidle capacity,โ€ which would like mean the creation of additional jobs.

    According to Lacerda, โ€œAMBEV bought shares into BHL 2 months ago, before its subsequent purchase of Massey Holdingโ€™s 20% stake last month.โ€

    He said: โ€œWe bought the SLU stake back in August this year. So we didnโ€™t have anything to do with the investment that was previously done in the plant or in the market by Latin Capital. So we bought SLU from Latin Capital in August this year and then we bought the 20% from Massey Holdings, getting to the 40.7%.โ€

    Essentially, the AMBEV Vice president is saying his company has only recently expressed an interest in taking over BHL and these intentions do not have anything to do with SLUโ€™s financial assistance to BHL, since they took over that company in August 2015.

    Hence, based on this clarification, we have to examine the takeover bid from a different perspective, since many of us were of the opinion that SLU was responsible for the bid, thereby creating the possibility that BHL would be owned by St. Lucians.

    Harry โ€œWild Cootโ€ Russell made a very interesting observation in his article, entitled โ€œWhen will it end,โ€ in the Monday, October 5, 2015 edition of the Daily Nation.

    Russell wrote: โ€œBarbados sets up a stock exchange but trading on it is at a minimum. However, there is such a penchant for savings accounts in the commercial banks and the credit unions that the Central Bank is vibrant in the market for placing these savings into the hands of the Government. Oh what a calamity! A true commercial bank could make a difference to the future of Barbados with proper use of these savings.โ€

    As Russell implied, trading on the stock exchange โ€œis at a minimum,โ€ the banks and credit unions cups โ€œrunneth over with savings, and the government capitalized on this borrowing these funds (i.e. issuing bonds at high interest rates).

    If BHL shares were on the stock exchange, what would have prevented Barbadian businesses, or ordinary Barbadians from approaching Massey Holdings and purchasing their 20% (as did AMBEV)?

    We have only ourselves to blame if foreign companies take advantage of our stock market to purchase shares or takeover companies, while we brag about how much savings we have. This clearly indicates that Barbadians are not into investing.

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