Public Service Announcement AGAINST 700 Million Waste-to-Energy Plant
Kammie Holder, Insurance Executive and Advocacy Director Future Centre Trust
Advocacy Director of Future Trust Barbados Kammie Holder has requested BU promote the following advertisement, and we do so gladly. We take this opportunity on behalf of the BU household to extend congratulations to Kammie […]and the hardworking team at the Future Centre Trust. We also pledge our unswerving support to the cause and will continue to assist in any way we can.
Barbados Underground 
https://m.soundcloud.com/thomas-sankara-5/cahill-700-million-plasma-gasification-plant
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@Bajan Yankee
The button on the video to play is not working for you?
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Some serious back pedaling from Lowe today. I laughed my head off!
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Why could the minister not say these things when MAM and Kammie Holder were asking questions?
I do not believe him.
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Tell me of any Investor who would be prepared to finance any venture unless it would be very lucrative to do so.
For the Minister of the Environment to state that this proposed Cahill Plasma Gasification Plant will not cost Barbados is telling me that one of us is being suckered.
CAHILL AMO BARBADOS!?
Why would I plant a grain of corn if the effort only yielded one grain in return?.
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Mr. Minister Lowe , your environment is deteriorating , can’t you see your lips are black from speaking untruth and your heart is in disrepair, seek God
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There is one thing that is significantly wrong with Lowe’s climb-down statement and that is: at the end, he did not tender his resignation as a cabinet minister.
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“….. . Once this proposed project meets the requirements …. (Including) the execution of two town hall meetings, which has been done…..”
Oh, so he is trying to claim that the town hall meetings requirement has been satisfied already, is he?
Does this cretin Lowe and his nefarious band of brothers really believe the pathetic circus performance given by a drunken, incoherent Clare Cowan qualifies as a town hall meeting?
What is this mysterious ailment he is being treated for? Dementia?
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Dennis Lowe, a man who truly lives up to his name as a real Low life who have never seen so much money before, is willing to pursue a project that the executive of Cahill said, we can depend on the toilets that use potable water to feed our hungry monster. This real real cunt really thinks that he talking to ignorant people, except those who are supporting the DLP in this nonsense.
The shite brings over the town hall meetings like they were some type of success or go ahead from the people to put money in his pocket. I have never seen a man so mean that his greed no longer needs obscurity. Wake up Barbadians, Dennis moving ahead with his project and want to fool you that certain agencies have the last say.
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“What we have before us is a proposed project. Once this proposed project meets the requirements of the Environmental Protection Department, the Town and Country Development Planning Office, the Ministry of Transport and Works, the Department of Emergency Management, the execution of two town hall meetings, which has been done, and the final certification of the Minister responsible for Town Planning, then the Government can move to full agreement stage,” the Minister pointed out.
However, he emphasised that if after a review of all the information it was determined by the Town and Country Development Planning Office that the project was not good for Barbados based on its technology, science, environmental and social impact, then there would be no project.
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My Darling Suzanne,
I tend not to share your belief that he will go ahead with this notwithstanding his exuberance and enforced alacrity based of his knowledge of his “being on the clock” and the commensurate acts of desperation to live it up before…
Operation Barbarosa sheds some light on this matter. Historians claim that it was at this 1,000 km battle front that Hitler made that tactical mistake to take Kiev instead of Moscow a deployment of strategic forces that lost him 5 months and bogged down his army in the bitter Russian winter.
That and Mussolini s invasion of Greece!
As stupid as Stinkliar and Fumble are THEY WILL NOT RISK estranging international financial markets and the development agencies BY COMMITTING $700million dollars to a new and untested technology, NOT AT 2015!!!
If it were late 2017 right before demitting office yes but to do so now would be the DLP s tactical Barbarosa in the face of 3 possble years of governance and their pensions
Stinkliar will not sacrifice all his fist class trips to see the world much better than he did at CPDC for Denis ‘ tryst with and execution of, I nevah had a white meat yet however decidedly ugly. But then again black lips Denis ent far away from an orangutan heself
Clare is the DLP s Kiev and they still want those pensions and 3more years to try a nex ting
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Have I misread minister lowelifes numbers 355,000 tons in 2013 = approx 970 tons a day
The Cahill model is based on 450 tons a day of MSW and 550 of king grass
Something is not quite right here
If the 970 a day is real why do you need king grass ???
Does anyone remember any discussions or public notices on requests for proposals for a waste to energy plant pre Cahill the miricale worker coming to the island to save us from ourselves???
How does lowelife explain a binding contract versus” proposed project”
The man is an idiot and a dolt
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You guys have been twisted from the start of this proposed project using tell tale and misguided information to sell a false impression of the facts surrounding the WTE and got intervention , Even at this present moment with BGIS information the opposer of the project have invoiced an untruth with statements to send a message that the govt has distant and walked away from the project even though Mr; Lowe states that the project still has to undergo necessary steps to be finalized
From the get go the movers and shakers of doom and gloom have raised a dark cloud of negativity surrounding this project and suspicion,
However from the conclusion of what Mt. Lowe stated the project has not be withdrawn and stages critical for the building of the plant are being looked into for consideration to move the project to a stage for finalization,
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In the opposers hell bent way of frenzy and to cease upon every moment to cause confusion and doubt, the response with the Top Headline article on BU which says “Public Service Announcement AGAINST 700 Million Waste-to-Energy Plant”takes the prize as the worst of the worst unethical news reporting on social media and news broadcasting a most unfortunate untruth which borders on slander and malice
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@ AC
You are an idiot
Stick to youre meandering no one is really interested in youre drivel you are quite the idiot for a man of letters.
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@mockingbird
Ignore the distractions, have you not seen the other ac dry up and disappear?
The open house sessions were specifically described that way to not offend the TP regulations.
Then there is the concern expressed by former Chief Town Planner Lenny St.Hill.
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@MockingBird ..yet you read my comments which make you the bigger idiot
the problem with you so called intellectual is that you can/t stand a person who removes themselves from being swayed in the direction you carved, you cant stand a person who refuse to read off that script that dictates and regulates a certain thought process
Your responses to those who rather use a different path of direction is always predictable, IDIOT
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Consider yourself ignored forthwith.
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@Mockingbird could not careless STUPID JERK
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Dr. Lowe said after the company presented its portfolio of options, the Ministry of the Environment and Drainage, satisfied after months of negotiations and willing to entertain the proposed option for waste management, set about to execute all of the preliminary processes that would lead to the approval of an agreement.”
Portfolio of options ??????
Potable water Clare knows nothing about technology in this space
Who and what proposals were proffered and where is the report on the rational of choosing “unproven ” scaled up plasma gasification as the best option for this island nation ???
Lowelife is an out and out liar
There was no selection process
Even infrastar would not have chosen plasma gasification as a first choice ..
Look at Air Products in the UK
It’s still not commissioned and its the only 1000tpd plasma gasifier in the world todate .
This is an exercise is back tracking and coverup ….
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@Mockingbird
Why don’t you ask all the AC’s how much money they will get as the chips fall in place and the crumbs start to drop; because that is the only logical reason why cunts like these puppets refuse to see this madness for what it is.
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My Sweet Piece
What does a dying man who knows that his days are numbered got to lose? The answer is not one shite. So my sweets, this DLP administration knows fully well that they do not stand a chance in hell in the next round of elections. Why not do as much now that can be done in the remaining time like committing to such a high price deal that would provide a nice draw back. I do know piece my sweets; these DLP bitches are nasty enough to go ahead with this project, regardless of its controversies and public outcry.
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mitchlans September 26, 2015 at 12:15 AM #
“….. . Once this proposed project meets the requirements …. (Including) the execution of two town hall meetings, which has been done…..”
Oh, so he is trying to claim that the town hall meetings requirement has been satisfied already, is he?
Does this cretin Lowe and his nefarious band of brothers really believe the pathetic circus performance given by a drunken, incoherent Clare Cowan qualifies as a town hall meeting?
What is this mysterious ailment he is being treated for? Dementia?
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The quoted claim by Minister Lowe that two Town Hall meetings have already been held show that either he is being deliberately misleading or he is totally ignorant and uninformed. Or a case of “incoherent rambling”. Both notices in the press stated that these were “Open House” meetings” . At St. Thomas Church in 2014 when a member of the public came to the microphone to speak and mentioned it was a Town Hall Meeting he was immediately corrected by Clare Cowan and told “this is an Open House because a Town Hall Meeting has certain legal implications”.
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The sooner we get hold of copies of the signed MOU and Agreements, the sooner we will know just what Barbados is in for if this project is abandoned. That must now be the focus of our efforts. Enough of the lies, misdirection and treating of the people like mushrooms (feeding ’em shit and keeping ’em in the dark)
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Denis Lowe has no regard for Barbadians. He insults us by the latest announcement he makes on the waste to energy plant. He blatantly states, through GIS, that Cahill is “not a done deal”. What document did you sign, Denis?. If you signed a document, and insist on confidentiality, what were you bidding Claire Cowans to hide? You cannot seriously expect Bajans to believe you. Can you honestly say that you deserve to be a Minister? You and the others who signed the “confidential” document have given Barbados a black eye!
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It is assumed that the Opposition’s legal stars can move to Whitepark in the event more mis steps are perpertrated upon the people of Barbados.Lowedown is arrogating and abrogating via black lips all in tandem.I am convinced:there will be no Cahill WTE plant in Barbados.When you see certain hues in the audience in this country,the political class take note.Thats why Stuart just found his tongue.When you corner a rat,it jumps on you.
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I have not seen anyone comment on the two harvesters that have been purchased by the ministry of the environment to harvest the see weed from the actual shores. This was featured on the C B C News a few weeks ago. How will this impact on Beach Erosion.
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We have been assured by Chairman Neblett the seaweed harvesters are designed to minimize impact on beach life.
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Cahill is not a done deal.
Signed agreements can be broken or renegotiated FOR A PRICE / FEE or through LITIGATION.
If the majority of Barbadians LIVING IN Barbados do not want this WTE project to be built they can stop it.
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True or false ?
The land on which this plant is to be built requires a “change of use” and must be approved by the Prime Minister on the advice of the Chief Town Planner.
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@Hants
The transfer of crown land can only occur when TP approval is gotten.
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“Minister
Pursuant to Section 18 (1) of the Town and Country Planning Act, the Minister currently makes decisions on all applications made for planning permission to subdivide or materially change the use of agricultural land of over two (2) acres, all applications for permission in respect of beach front properties as well as on appeals against the decision of the Chief Town Planner.”
The Prime Minister is responsible for Town planning.
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The land is stuck between S3and S4 process and requires a survey and aa change in use and an official transfer of ownership to be then transfered to the project is potable water Clare. the investors if there any would make the transfer of the land to Cahill a CP ( condition precedent) of any deal being struck
” look for the cahill breaches of contract and this thing can be shut down “
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For those who are interested in Town Planning rules and regs.
http://www.townplanning.gov.bb/index.aspx
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Mockingbird September 26, 2015 at 5:45 AM #
Have I misread minister lowelifes numbers 355,000 tons in 2013 = approx 970 tons a day
The Cahill model is based on 450 tons a day of MSW and 550 of king grass
Something is not quite right here
If the 970 a day is real why do you need king grass ???
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I agree with you.
The Lowelife said that we have a problem with solid waste disposal and without this Cahill plant, we will have to find another “Mangrove” in five years.
BU….follow me here……….
If we do not have enough garbage to feed this monster daily, why do we then need it? And at such enormous cost and potential damage to the environment that we are trying to protect?
So is the ultimate goal of this gang of four to put two local businessmen out of business for a person who operates like a loan shark?
Where is our sense of pride in this year when these same dems have began to tout 50 years of independence?
This just does not make sense to not even dompey or ac but they would defend it because it is “we party”.
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My prediction was that this CAHILL scam would have been the undoing of this the most shady admiinistration known to Barbados. I still wonder why the opposition has not yet employed more aggressive methods of exposure, so that all Barbadians get to understand that collective responsibility now entails four members only. That’s why F reundel Stuart needs to be removed from office. So that the wrong impression is not given, i’m talking about shutting the country down until the collapse of this admiinistration is realised.
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Serious backpedalling! Pity there wasn’t a hole behind him! And before you try to arrest me I didn’t say I would dig it.
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Irrespective of all the $$ that is involved in our garbage issues and the various factions that want to control it, it would be in our collective interest to start a small pilot to facilitate the Waste Management policies of our cuntry, irrespective of Cowan and this scam
The fist step is separation at source where some of the unemployed NCC workers who are interested could be contracted to drill four holes in front of every house in Bulbados to accommodate a bin for (1) food and compost inlets (2) glass (3) plastic and (4) metals
Imagine getting the IMDb and The Global Environmental Fund to support a Separate at source national program where a device is outfitted wid an appropriate drill bit to augur into the eart and we just put some bins in to hold the respective materials
Unlessing you is Owing Arfur de glass bottles etc are not going to require frequent collection but what we would have done is to preempt the issues of separation when the stuff gets to the land fill, created some much needed jobs for the unemployed, possible criminals in waiting.
We could even explore if the actual manufacture of the bins could form part of that project based on reconstituted car tyres
De old man ent really care who run wid it but de benefit fuh me cuntry and I doan gi a shyte bout DLP or BLP Dem is boaf de same dufuses…
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Does the MoU states anywhere “subject to Town Planning or any other related approval”?
A Town Hall meeting is only worthwhile if plans are other documents were made available before and are available during the meeting for public scrutiny–it is suppose to be CONSULTATION not a mere presentation.
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My money is on these numptys signing away every right known to man.
Crazy lady and her London lawyers probably tied lowlifes lawyers up in Knott’s
Giving them the sun moon and stars
We are probably obliged to change our constitution to accomadste this fiasco.
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@ennuff
To be clear
The public notices and meetings required by law have not happened ….
If we were to start today we are a minimum of 6to 8 months away from any town hall meetings
This crazy woman or her figment investors have nothing and I mean nothing done on this project other than getting our idiot ministers to sign a set of unconstitutional contracts.
This pennyless pityful pauper has led us in a merry dance for 18 months simply because our leader and his 4 minester fools don’t have a testicle between them .
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@RastaR
You have read Due Dilligence’s reports.
“This pennyless pitiful pauper….”.
Really? Someone who can get a 1.5 million dollar (Can) loan, from an individual (well off, a former high up at Goldman Sachs, one of the biggest and most influential Investment Bankers on WALL STREET) on a six million dollar condominium, her home, living on Avenue Road near Bloor Street?
Of course Ridgemount FS wants his money now, but still, Claire Cowan penniless? A Pauper? I think not
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@Alvin
The family wondered if you were sick.
Are you Cowan’s Accountant?
We can only go by her tax returns.
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david why you have to lie right up front in alvin face, wuh only today u made a sarcastic remark in reference to a comment saying Alvin had disappeared.
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@AC
Ignored
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@David
Clearly she lied on applications for mortages and loans
As evidenced by her tax returns !!!!
And I’m sure ridgemount will show that in their prosecution of her . with stated income of 78 to 130 k $can you’re mortage approval level would be min 500k Max 1.3m
The paperwork says it all she lied and used the government contracts as leverage to fool people on net worth
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@RastaR,
What was the owner of Ridgemount’s profession? BASED ON DUE DILIGENCE’S REPORTS HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR LEVERAGING at Goldman Sachs in New York and also Hong Kong. Leveraging is a legitimate part of stock trading. Isn’t this what Massey did when they won the bidding war against Ansa McAl for the purchase of BS&T? Isn’t this why they sold off Almond? It was all part of the trade off.
According to Due Diligence, she used 800,000 of the loan to pay off (or down) her mortgage, so she at least has that amount of equity. One does not have to be an accountant to understand this. How could she then be a pauper, and/or penniless?
You people throw terms and phrases around just for the sake of besmirching people’s character. Avenue Road and Yorkville, is one of the most expensive pieces of Real Estate in Toronto. And what do her tax returns show? Most interesting of all is how Due Diligence was able to obtain from CRA the details of an individual’s “confidential” (not in the Bajan context of confidential; whereby everybody knows) returns. Hope the RCMP don’t investigate or some one will be in real serious trouble.
@David,
Instead of attacking me, request truthfulness, honesty, specificity, and such things from your “errant” BLP and anti government contributors. Clearly the woman cannot be penniless and a pauper. There is no doubt she got a loan of over a million and a half dollars.
Upper Canada college produces Prime Ministers and people who fill the upper echelons of Canadian Society. She moves in those circles.
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and guess what circles the BU intelligent moves with ,Sherri Veronica the blog mistress of salacious and downright nasty articles, wuh dat should tell u something,
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@Alvin Cummins September 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM #
@RastaR,
What was the owner of Ridgemount’s profession? BASED ON DUE DILIGENCE’S REPORTS HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR LEVERAGING at Goldman Sachs in New York and also Hong Kong. Leveraging is a legitimate part of stock trading. Isn’t this what Massey did when they won the bidding war against Ansa McAl for the purchase of BS&T? Isn’t this why they sold off Almond? It was all part of the trade off.
According to Due Diligence, she used 800,000 of the loan to pay off (or down) her mortgage, so she at least has that amount of equity. One does not have to be an accountant to understand this. How could she then be a pauper, and/or penniless?
You people throw terms and phrases around just for the sake of besmirching people’s character. Avenue Road and Yorkville, is one of the most expensive pieces of Real Estate in Toronto. And what do her tax returns show? Most interesting of all is how Due Diligence was able to obtain from CRA the details of an individual’s “confidential” (not in the Bajan context of confidential; whereby everybody knows) returns. Hope the RCMP don’t investigate or some one will be in real serious trouble.
Alvin, do a Google search on “Alex Iscoe” to confirm that he was an Associate Leveraged Finance with Goldman Sachs and before that an Analyst – Leveraged Finance at CIBC World Markets.
Alex Iscoe is the Principal of Ridgemount Group Ltd. We do not know that he is the “owner” of Ridgemount FS Limited, but that he is the “Director” of Ridgemount FS Ltd. In my earlier comments I assume that he is the sole shareholder, but he may be a nominee for other(s)who are the beneficial owners.
Unit 4803 at 50 Yorkville was transferred to MECC (she bought it) on May 17, 2013 for $6,524,245.
On September 21, 2015, there were two mortgages registered against the property.
A first mortgage for $4,000,000 to Home Trust registered May 17, 2013, about 60% of the purchase price.
A second mortgage for $1,500,000 to Ridgemount FS Ltd. registered on November 27, 2014.
It was another poster (RastaR I believe) who said there had been an $800,000 second mortgage on the property to Cameron Mortgages which was repaid/discharged from the proceeds of the new second from Ridgemount.
DD does not know the date the $800,000 mortgage was registered/advanced sometime between May 17, 2013 and November 17, 2014; nor do we know how the proceeds were used. A guess would be that it was used to secure or repay the 200,000 UK pound loan from Liz Spencer in the UK. It could have been used to reduce the first mortgage, but it is not likely she would take on a second with a much higher rate of interest than the first; unless she was in arrears with the first and Home Trust was threatening to go power of sale. Or it could have been used to pay consultants fees of finders fees relating to the WtE contracts.
Avenue Road and Yorkville is (indeed) one of the most expensive pieces of Real Estate in Toronto; but if a property is leveraged to the hilt (to or above its market value) the owner could be (using your words) a pauper, and/or penniless.
Finally it was NOT Due Diligence who was able to obtain from CRA the details of an individual’s “confidential” returns. They were submitted to BU by another contributor, with much greater sleuthing skills than DD, who has to rely on publicly available information, and first saw them here.
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@DD,
We obviously have very good sleuths on BU nowadays. Funny they only became “vocal” within the last couple of months. Where were they so many months ago (going back pre 2008) when there was need for real agitation when the country was being downgraded, money from the sale of Barclays to CIBC was not being placed where it should have been (check Chris McHale’s revelations etc, etc. ), even though “detractors” would want to question his “sanity”.
Anyhow, it does not matter at this stage. We all know what happens when sharks get in a feeding frenzy.
Town Planning permission is not needed to obtain satellite photos of Barbados. Google Earth will supply good pictures with excellent definition; even closeups of any part of Barbados that is needed.
@Mocking bird.
“Potable water Clare knows nothing about technology in this space.”
Do you??
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@Alvin Cummins
Why don’t you advise why your name is mentioned in the Cahill email scam? You have lived all these years to allow your reputation to be tarred? What is your relationship with Tim?
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@David
You really don’t get it yet. Which part of a pretender and little deceitful worm that you do not understand is Alvin Cummins.
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What Alvin needs to explain is why is his name being mentioned in the Cahill email leaks.
Alvin you need to retrieve your name!
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The the design of the WTE plant should be carefully reviewed given the very real threat of
EARTHQUAKES.
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David
You asked Alvin why his name was mentioned. Can I answer for him? Alvin rushes in where angels fear to tread.
It is not original, I only had to substitute his name in the original quote and use the third person singular of the verb.
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@David September 30, 2015 at 11:59 AM #
“What Alvin needs to explain is why is his name being mentioned in the Cahill email leaks.
Alvin you need to retrieve your name!”
I do not pretend to speak for for Alvin; but here is my guess.
Alvin Cummins posted on another blog said he was at the September 14 court hearing. As I recall he said he left the court room when the lawyers for MECC and Ridgemount left, and later posted this in another blog.
“Alvin Cummins September 15, 2015 at 12:55 PM #
@David, Mocking Bird, and Piece under the rock et a.,
GOTCHA!!!
The only person who knows I gave the Defence Lawyer my card was the Lawyer for Ridgemount, because he and the defence lawyer were the only two persons there, talking to each other…….”
So, after following the lawyers out of the court room, he gave his card to the defense lawyer while they were talking outside the court room. (for reasons known only to Alvin)
My read is that the defense lawyer, Tim Gleason, contacted MECC, by phone or text, immediately after his conversation with with Ridgemount’s lawyer to advise her of the outcome (adjourned to another hearing on September 21); and asked who is this Alvin Cummins guy who gave me his card?
MECC then fired off her September 14 email to Gleason at 11:44.
Alvin should tread more carefully to protect his good name,
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@Due Diligence,
Those who are questioning my motives should read my submissions carefully. The same way you read them, you think they have not? They are only being malicious.I have nothing to fear. As I told the lawyer for Ridgemount, when he came over and introduced himself to me, and he wanted to know my interest in the case, I told him that I was there as an observer, because anything that was of interest to Barbados is of interest to me.
I always try to get my facts first hand, not based on what others say; what better place than in the courtroom. I have nothing to hide, so why should I not go in there boldly.
Why are so many people so interested in this particular case? Can’t say the same thing occurred with Greenland. Is this going to happen every time an investor, or group of investors try to invest in the country? What is so special about this particular case? We had an invitation from the Sanitation Service Authority for tenders who wanted to express interest in a BOLT arrangement ( to Build Operate, Lease, and then Transfer) a Waste to Energy Plant, since 2010. I posted a copy of the original advertisement, but people seem to have ignored this , (which explains why people still have queries about the invitation to tender.)How many projects has Government advertised for expressions of interest that have generated this much interest? Why? How many potential investors have had their Income Tax returns so intensely scrutinized, and their intentions subjected to such minute questioning? Why?
Has the so called professor, associated with the Future Centre Trust, had his bone fides examined? What is his interest in Barbados? Who are his supporters? How has Kammie gotten so involved with him? Are these not legitimate concerns? What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.
@Hants,
Has the design of the plant been revealed yet? How many earthquakes have we had in Barbados in the last fifty years, and what have been their magnitude? Don’t you think that any mechanical engineers involved in this project would be aware of these things? We have got to be the most condescending people in creation.
@Caswell,
How is it that you never went to Law School?
@SSS,
Oistins Users Committee!! Nuff said.
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@DAVID,
I should clarify that it was at the court hearing the week after (Sept. 21) that the lawyer for Ridgemount came over to me and introduced himself. Lest there be any confusion as to when the introduction was made.
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@Alvin
And you felt you had to mention BU? Are you sure a rukus was not raises about Greenland as well led by Richard Goddard. You are something else! R
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@ Alvin Cummins,
http://earthquaketrack.com/p/barbados/recent
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” The centre’s director, Dr. Joan Latchman, in separate interviews with the media in Barbados and Trinidad over the weekend, said a big earthquake is likely going to occur at some point “
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David
Not only Richard Goddard but Lennie StHill as well and they had their day in court too!
Did Alvin the only spook seen,go ver and offered up his card?Or as he would have us believe,he was sought out by the lawyer.Either way what is this old timer shuffling his way downtown for.Was he a stand in to proceedings for the 4 musketeers,Darcy,Denis,Dennis and stinkliar?The DLP,the embarrassment of Barbados since 2008.OSA says worse medicine to come,Stinkliar confirms it in today’s news.
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@Gabriel
Leave Alvin alone, no doubt he welcomed the opportunity to shed his trusty short pants and sandals 🙂
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@david
Poor Alvin seems to be bi polar summer spent in the north winters in the south
That’s why he’s confused where his loyalt lies or is it he just lies .
And for clarity its the civil /structural /geotech engineer that tells the mechanical engineer what seismic or coefficient of acceleration equipment needs to be designed to and as I’ve said before months ago. The plasma gasifer and its monster syngas outlet ductwork is the most vulnerable area of design in term of seismic support and HAZOP analysis.
Hence my term “time bomb” Alter NRG won’t guarentee the safety of the gasifer and will pass the
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Liability to who ever takes the EPC contract
That risk is enormous and will be passed down the line to the people living in the shadow of the monster .
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Gabriel,
I cannot say I was surprised when I heard the Stinkliar today……..nothing they do surprises me anymore.
OSA flushed him out when he dropped the bombshell on the weekend that 5000 more workers will have to go home. If this mass layoff plan is imminent, he had no choice but to admit the inevitable.
Is it not ironic that a man who is presiding over such mass layoffs after promising that not one worker would be sent home…………..is now saying that Barbadians are going to have to become entrepreneurs and provide jobs for themselves.
Hey, Stinkliar……..set the example, resign and stop effing this country and become an entrepreneur yourself.
But wait, were we not told that this economy has been stabilized and is on a growth path?
With JA’s like the minister, we can really understand why Clare Cowan was able to juck out their eyes and by extension, the taxpayers.
I still would like to know what is it that these four jokers got out of that deal!
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Alvin Cummins why are you wasting your time and energy with these “superior dunderheads”they believe beyond a shadow of a doubt they score some kind of “victory” when the truth of it all which is as plain as having a nose is that removing one finger does not remove the arm. there is still the nagging and worrisome question that these dunderheads want remove once and for all that of having a WTE plant any where in barbados
Therefore all this yakity yak and garble annoyances to them matter as a” cause” which they perceive as a plan which would destroy the govt credibility sending a stern message and with the inevitable collapse of all or any intentions or participants past or present ever thinking or entertaining the thought of ever having a WTE plant barbados
Take note that nothing else outside that of a terminology of sending their own version of a “message over the past month have been discussed even the environmental issues or the technological aspects which are necessary and important to this issue has taken a backseat replaced with a seasoned and hardened bustle to destroy and convict and condemn any or any one who dare came close to having details or in near sight to the project ‘Yourself included.
Bear in mind the desire and willingness to protect their interest supersedes in their asinine mind and reigns supreme above and beyond what is in the best interest of Barbados
Having said all of the above the can was kicked down the street , However govt must not recoil or renege on its promise to the people in saving high energy cost and reducing garbage ,which too is a high priority on the environmental list of “things to do” and must not quiver or sway and leave to chance in terms of long term effects which include increasing financial cost as a fallout from the overwhelming negative effects that unfiltered garbage can be of burden to on society
It was only recently that barbadians got a close and personal look experiencing firsthand some of the riveting effects and the resulting damage of rodents and smell of garbage which was left unattended for weeks forcing them to cry for quick action .Where were the environmentalist then? did they sound the loud and vocal voices against such interference that would risk the health and life of a society . NO? go figure
Govt intentions to act upon or to implement fast and quick action as a solution must not be derailed or impaired by a few self serving and disgruntled people who sees a WTE plant as a hindrance to their financial progress
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@Prodigal, you know obviously that Sinckler and the others did not get their eyes juck out in the least. Unless that is the juck one gets from rubbing one’s eyes after looking at the balance on a recently opened bank a/c.
And that whereas people ride jackass or donkeys and make them their beast of burden here it’s the people who are being ridden as the beasts bearing the tax and unemployment burdens.
We are clearly the JAs as we allow this riding to take place at will.
Just putting in perspective.
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AC
I remind you that the DLP is notorious for managing waste in Barbados.It was during the last DLP administration of the 80s/90s that the term Mt Stinkeroo was introduced to Bajans compliments of the late Jack Leacock.The ministry was headed by Brannie Taitt and the stench from Mangrove was overwhelming.The member for St Thomas David Simmons was a thorn in the side of the DLP and when they were turfed out it was the same David Simmons that was able to restore peace and quiet at Mangrove and provided the management of the facility that made it a success story in succeeding years.
Similarly during this time the BWA was properly managed by Nicky Sealy who had put aside millions of dollars to replace leaking mains,only for Sandy to raid the BWA bank account in the late 80s and we are paying the price today for Infra, an insulting african and a corrupt minister to cause horrors to bajan businesses and households in the delivery of that necessity of life, water.When a pipe burstes…prophetic words that have come to haunt bajans,being punished for having the worst government in the history of this country.They can’t manage anything…neither Water,Garbage,Finances,Transport,Poverty Alleviation,Foreign Direct Investment,Education,Debt Servicing,Care of our Young,of our Disabled,Pensions Rights,Employment Opportunities,our local Investments in Clico and Baico and the list goes on…….This minority government is for the DLP inner circle of opportunists formerly known as the Fatted Calf.Ask Clare if you doubt me.Ask Alvin if you doubt me.Ask Bjorn and Philip and Mark if you doubt me.
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@ Gabriel you need a double dosage course in morals and ethics less you forget that under the fourteen year reign of the blp when financial reservoir was overflowing Nothing was Done to correct any of the said problems , Further more in one of the auditor generals report the report was highly critical of the mishandling of funds attributed to monies for supplies /supplies which were for repair and to replace important water lines which was causing major leakages such supplies were never received but was being billed to the BLP govt
Yes Mam/Sir you do need a double dose in moral and ethics , Your Poor dispensation of occurrences top short of the truth,
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Gabriel September 30, 2015 at 6:33 PM #
“AC
I remind you that the DLP is notorious for managing waste in Barbados.It was during the last DLP administration of the 80s/90s that……..”
ac October 1, 2015 at 5:18 AM #
“@ Gabriel you need a double dosage course in morals and ethics less you forget that under the fourteen year reign of the blp when…….”
Gabriel & AC,
Despite the fact that the two of you approach issues from different perspectives, the one common thread that binds the two of you together is your genuine interest and concern for the welfare of Barbados.
Independent thinkers can easily detect the approach that you are using.
Gabriel, and others, have been telling us that Barbados experienced some bad things for 7 years under Erskine Sandiford, and some worse things for the past 7 years under David Thompson and Freundel Stuart.
AC, and others, are telling us that Barbados experienced things that were just as bad, or worse, under 14 years of Owen Arthur.
However, the thrust of the argument on both sides seems to be: “Hush yuh mout’ do. Whatever you accuse my side of doing, I could bring enough evidence to show that your side is just as bad or worse. So you ain’t saying ‘nutten’.”
In mathematical terms, here is the argument you are presenting:
14 years of damage to Barbados under Owen Arthur – 14 years of damage under Erskine Sandiford, David Thompson, and Freundel Stuart = 0 discussion (an argumentative draw).
Of course, this argument is absurd.
I know that both of you are loyal Barbadians. I know that both of you are telling the truth.
Given what I know, I can now present your arguments in mathematical terms:
14 years of damage to Barbados under Owen Arthur + 14 years of damage under Erskine Sandiford, David Thompson, and Freundel Stuart = 28 years of damage to Barbados.
The question, for both of you and all Barbadians, now becomes:
How much more years of damage can the small, open, brittle, and vulnerable economy of Barbados endure before it collapses totally?
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Please note that I have not used DLP or BLP in my writing. The DLP and BLP are simply the names of institutions, and so they can never, ever hurt a Bajan or Barbados. Erskine Sandiford, Owen Arthur, David Thompson, Freundel Stuart…..well that’s a completely different matter.
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The BLP and DLP are two parties with no differentiation in philosophy. Any differences in the parties is a function of who is the leader and the intelligence of the players at play in the moment.
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So Prime Ministers are in facto or de facto Dicktators.
Incorrect spelling may or may not be intentional.
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No i disagree! there is a philosophy that attracts an individual to any given political party with a heavy reliance on a psychological curve,
The term yardfowl which is so widely use to described a party loyalist can be attributed to those two factors the necessary ingredients that holds ! binds! and attracts the interest of an individual to the party of choice, ( maybe entrenched in the mind for the purpose of keeping balance)
In reality the politics although seemingly important is not the most crucial and distinctive role that plays out , The politics by itself can be defined by several causes or at times by forces in our out side of the party,
But the philosophy is the real key which forces the individual to embrace! Accept ! or to believe in the leader or a party of choice ,
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