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Submitted by Charles Knighton
Dr. Clive Landis, Professor Cardiovascular Research University of the West Indies ... · Chronic Disease Research Centre
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Minister of Culture, Sports and Youth, Stephen Lashley, has again stressed the importance of keeping aspects of Barbados’ heritage (traditions) and history in the forefront during the season of Emancipation, “so that both young people and adults can truly appreciate what is being celebrated.”  A society that does not either understand or value its history and traditions is a society verging on suicide, for if you don’t know your history, then you don’t know anything. You are a leaf that doesn’t know it is part of a tree. And what is tradition if not the living faith of the dead?

In her article Tourism defenders (April 15 Advocate), Janelle Husbands leads with the adage that “good news travels fast and bad news even faster” before discussing the importance of the image we portray in attracting tourists to Barbados.

What image of Barbados was portrayed by the recent release of the findings of a study by Dr. Clive Landis that forty percent of Barbadian females’ first sexual experiences came about through coercion or by rape? Though males were not included in this study, with such a high percentage of females reporting such experiences, it seems safe to draw the inference that over half of all children in Barbados are victims of sexual abuse.

Ergo, far from being the isolated incidents of crime Ms. Husbands speaks of, such abominable behavior seems to be a cultural norm in Barbados. How many prospective tourists, particularly females, will be appalled enough at such a state of affairs to seek their vacations elsewhere, taking their partners or families with them?

While I have never been accused of being the brightest bulb in the box, and so am probably missing something, I absolutely can’t figure out what the BAMC has done to incur the wrath of Sir Roy Trotman and the BWU. That being said, Sir Roy’s demand for an apology from the BAMC brought to mind some very sage advice learned at the knee of my grandmother, to wit: “It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people neither expect or want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them.”

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77 responses to “First Sexual Experience: 40% of Bajan Females Point to Being Coerced or Rape”

  1. dompey Avatar
    dompey

    This obviously means that we have large population of men, who are the perpetrators of this moral evil. But more importantly, we have examine with a strict scrutiny, the etiologies of this victimization being perpetrated by these men. Well, I just the social -scientists in Barbados have their work cut out for them because it appears as though we have a growing population of molesters/ sexual – predators in the small island of Barbados.

  2. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @Charles Knighton “It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people neither expect or want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them.”

    Your grandmother was arrogant, immoral and just plain wrong.

    Jesus as usual was right in Matthew 5:24 it is written “Therefore if you are presenting your offering at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your offering there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and present your offering. Make friends quickly with your opponent at law while you are with him on the way, so that your opponent may not hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the officer, and you be thrown into prison.”

  3. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @What image of Barbados was portrayed by the recent release of the findings of a study by Dr. Clive Landis that forty percent of Barbadian females’ first sexual experiences came about through coercion or by rape…How many prospective tourists, particularly females, will be appalled enough at such a state of affairs to seek their vacations elsewhere, taking their partners or families with them?”

    This projects a very bad image of Bajan men, but worldwide rape is shockingly, nastily, heart breakingly common.

    Many, many men are brutes.

  4. dompey Avatar
    dompey

    And finally, this dysfunction behavior is interwoven
    right into our social and cultural tapestry because I knew of police officers who were engaging sexual- intercourse with young girls, who were attending secondary school at the time.

  5. dompey Avatar
    dompey

    Simple Simon

    It appear as though you’re more concern about the economics the tourist industry brings to Barbados, than the emotional well- being of these women who have obviously been victimized? It sound rather insensitive by any standard of judgment brother. So what would you suggest be done with this report? Hide it under rug? Having a national discussion regarding this issue is the first step in dealing with it.

  6. dompey Avatar
    dompey

    Simple Simon

    The issue isn’t whether or not rape is on the escalation worldwide. Sir, we’re dealing with what concerns the small island of Barbados and the women who are being victimized there. And having four youngers sisters in Barbados; yes I am quite concern.

  7. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Jesus died over 2000 years ago.
    Nobody has ever referred to HIM as the late Jesus,
    Not even the heathens.
    Nowhere in history.
    Nowhere has HE ever been referred to in the past tense
    HE ‘is’ the Living God!

  8. dompey Avatar
    dompey

    Boy I can’t wait to the report comes out on male molestation in Barbados. On my way to Roebuct Boy Primary during the early 70’s, I had to fight off a plethora of bullers, just to make it back and forth from school.

  9. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Look! If we had our way 40% of Bajan men will be walking around without their significant member (castration) and without hands if this report is true. Certainly, it must be time to stop complaining and resort to the Islamic part of ‘our’ fictitious Judea-Christian-Islamic tradition to find a remedy. We argue for immediate public castration and dismemberments based on evidence that does not meet current requirements. Meaning, on a mere complaint of any woman, girl or boy, public and televised actions should ensue. Of course, we will have to find a remedy when a woman is the violator, too.

  10. David Avatar
    David

    @Pacha

    What are you advocating?

    We are a civilized and educated people nevermind the study says otherwise.

  11. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    @ David
    We though we were fairly clear. We accept your words, in jest, for we have never found much civilizing about our existence. If people think they have some right to abuse women, in the manner described, we call for the stated remedies. Further, we call on the right thinking men in their women’s lives to rise up in the active defense of women. Here we are repeating our call for these appropriate remedies even if we have to use the principle of self defense, which every human can assert. We say public castrations and dismemberments for violations against our women.

  12. Well Well Avatar
    Well Well

    Pacha……honestly, that is the only part of the Sharia laws i believe in, chop of their hands or their too active male appendages if their brains can’t control between their legs, but, in the muslim society raping young girls and young boys still remain a huge blight and problem on the society, it is epidemic, in other words, it is a societal problem worldwide where men still believe they have a right to victimize those who they perceive as physically and mentally weaker than they are and that these individuals exist solely for male sexual pleasure…….

    Dompey…….i actually agree with you.

  13. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    @ Well Well
    Everything you said is right. We concur!

  14. robert ross Avatar
    robert ross

    The report speaks of rape and coercion.

    First – what is the sample?

    Second – what were the questions?

    Third – by coercion do we mean ‘pressure’?

    Fourth – by rape do we mean “I didn’t really want to do it’?

    Fifth – how do you establish the link between first time sex (for a woman always traumatic, for a man invariably a disappointment) and tourist numbers? Sounds potty to me.

    On ‘never apologize’ – John Wayne said it in, I think, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, on the ground it is a sign of weakness. They say ‘lovers should never apologize’ on the ground they shouldn’t have to. Yeah right.

    On “If you don’t know your history you don’t know anything” – maybe ‘knowledge’ is part of the problem not a solution – is it to strap us and condition us? Do we turn ‘I think I know’ into ‘I know’? And whose history are we speaking of – from the perspective of a planter or a slave? And what is ‘history’ (see E H Carr’s book of that title) anyway? Was Jesus ‘history’ because something he’s supposed to have said is reported in St John’s Gospel 70 years or so after he ‘died’? Or anything else written in a book about the past? And what of the ‘whig fallacy’ – reading the past using the standards of the present?

  15. David Avatar
    David

    But it will never happen because in our Western way of doing things it is not an option. Isn’t there more value in debating what is possible?

  16. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    @ David

    You need not be so negative. Every Friday in Saudi there are public beheadings and that country is well within the Western fold. There is no perceived contradiction. In the USA there are weekly executions, sometimes even innocent people are killed, when we know that they are innocent – the operation of the law, they say. With our determination to actively protect our women the cowardly Bajan men will soon known how they are to behave towards our girls and women, etc.

  17. MoneyBrain Avatar
    MoneyBrain

    @WW
    In many Muslim countries there is NO need to rape young girls as they can marry them as young as 9 yrs in some places!!!
    Bajan society has always been very sexual and many of these teenage girls probably want an experienced man to do the honours BUT may regret that decision once the act commences and he wont take NO/ STOP for an answer, its complicated and few men can control themselves when “understanding” is critical.

    I was in that situation at age 13 with a 12 yr old girl and backed off because I felt the girl was young. Hard to accomplish but better than a bad conscience for me.

    Grown men should know better than to indulge in young green fruits BUT loin lust is very powerful!

  18. Well Well Avatar
    Well Well

    Money…….they will get a better understanding of loin lust once they no longer have anything to lust with…chop it off…….but as David said, it’s just wishful thinking in the western society.

  19. Well Well Avatar
    Well Well

    Money…..BTW, i do believe the US and some other countries use chemical castration which did not even work in some culprits and they only use it in extreme cases, translation, when they have raped , killed and/or eaten as many as 20 boys, girls and female victims.

  20. dompey Avatar
    dompey

    Money Brain

    It isn’t what teenage Bajan girls want. It is what the law demands of those who ought to know better than engage in sexual intercourse with underage young girls. In Barbados, it is called indecent carnal knowledge and in the US it is called statutory- rape.

  21. robert ross Avatar
    robert ross

    This post is becoming bizarre. Landis refers to 40% of women. The post writer turns this into 50% of children. MB speaks of a little boy/little girl non-event and then speaks of grown men. So what IS the scenario we are talking about and do we castrate 12 yo boys?

  22. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Robert Ross
    As ever, your creative truth never fails to amaze.

  23. dompey Avatar
    dompey

    In the US, the statutory rape of a child under of 16, carries a minimum sentence of 10 years in the federal penitentiary. And after you have served your sentence, you to have register with the state- police sexual offenders registry for life.

  24. Well Well Avatar
    Well Well

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/bryan-singer-sex-abuse-accuser-piece-meat-article-1.1760565

    It’s epidemic everywhere.

  25. robert ross Avatar
    robert ross

    Well Well

    The link is very interesting and raises all sorts of questions. One is whether we would categorize ‘party boys’ as ‘rent boys’ in the Wildean sense.

  26. MoneyBrain Avatar
    MoneyBrain

    Obviously young boys are not to be castrated. The law should be there to deter grown men from errant behavior that can negatively afflict young women’s psychology for many years. Habitual sexual offenders who probably cant help themselves require the “assistance” available through intervention chemically or by the knife to reduce their imbalance and compulsion.

    In the “West” we have become ridiculously liberal to the point of “excusing” all manners of recalcitrance. Why do we refuse to understand the very necessary and critical role of DISCIPLINE? Family life has deteriorated to the point where lil Johny/ Jane/ Latisha/ Jabbari can do NO wrong. SAD!

  27. dompey Avatar
    dompey

    Good point Ross. I also wanted to know what age group did this study targeted. You have to also bear in mind that the author of the article said that, ” He drew the inference that over haft of all children in Barbados are victims of sexual abuse.”

  28. David Avatar
    David

    @Domkey

    Instead of writing why don’t you read Landis’ report AND then comment?

    On Friday, 18 April 2014, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >

  29. Well Well Avatar
    Well Well

    Ross……..these kids were just looking for a way to break into show biz of which the slimy director and his lustful buddies were well aware, most kids have no idea how deceitful and devious adults can be when they want to exploit, sadly, most kids pay dearly mentally and physically to learn what adults are capable of when they believe the same adults are interested in their well-being or future development….guys like those go after kids who seem overly ambitious and they actually tell lies to the kids, anything to get their pants off, it also happens in the Caribbean on a much smaller scale.

  30. robert ross Avatar
    robert ross

    Well Well

    Yes I agree with you. The scenario is not uncommon. I wonder where the parents were. But of course, we don’t know how many got what they ‘paid’ for. And is it really that different, other than in terms of age, from those in ‘high place’ offering ‘care’ and ‘advancement’ to subordinates or outsiders – which we know takes place every day? I suppose sometimes the inducement is seriously meant.

    David

    You tell “Domkey” to read the report. Why him and not the rest of us? Is there a link?

  31. Well Well Avatar
    Well Well

    Ross……..that’s another thing, i know parents have to work and the US particularly can be brutal to parents with children, but it is always possible to know where your children are and who they are interacting with at any given time,it also applies to the Caribbean, know who your children are interacting with, particularly when they interact with adults.

  32. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @David
    Instead of writing why don’t you read Landis’ report AND then comment?
    +++++++++++++
    Is there a link to the report? There is no doubt that males and females are being sexualized at earlier stages of their development and some people tend to remember their “first time” with varying degrees of regret simply because they weren’t ready. It would be interesting to know how the questions were framed as skilled researchers can get the answers they want by asking questions in slightly different ways throughout the survey process and I have seen several surveys where the same question appeared in a different section of the survey in an altered format or the real reason of the survey is hidden in the initial request.

    Hormones don’t just start raging at 21, as boys and girls go through puberty the age of discovery begins and nothing short of Guinevere’s chastity belt will keep the parties from comingling. Barbados has always been a country where the males have been boastful about their sexual exploits and the females were reticent about theirs. Fast forward to a few years later the females may be lest revealing in their answers as they don’t want to appear to be promiscuous.

    Perhaps one day there will be a Bajan “Kinsey” report.

  33. David Avatar
    David

    @Sargeant

    There is a hyperlink in the submission.

    On Friday, 18 April 2014, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >

  34. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @David

    The only link I can see is the news article from the Advocate, when I clicked on the photo of the Professor I got a larger image of his smiling visage.

  35. David Avatar
    David

    @Sargeant

    Here is the link:

    http://barbadosunderground.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/drakes-et-al-2013-bmc-womens-health.pdf

    @Domkey

    Apology extended to you, we were under the mistaken belief the link was embedded in the bog.

  36. acj Avatar
    acj

    And many of these men walking among us are so called christians and preachers of redemption and salvation..

  37. MoneyBrain Avatar
    MoneyBrain

    @acj
    Dem supposedly religious types are THE MOST DANGEROUS! The old Bajanism about pumping Jesus into dem comes to memory.

  38. ac Avatar
    ac

    anyhow how does the one connects tourism and the rape of barbadians woman and culture,,,,,,,,,i hope no one is implying that rape a a mental disorder carried out by a deranged person,,,,,is part of barbadian culture,,,,,,,,,,, as if our country does not have enough economic problems at its doorstep…..i am at loss to understand the connection as within most societies one would find that there are varying percentile of sick demented people,,,,,, but tying it to the people culture is asinine,,,,,,maybe if a report was done on the number of people in barbados who drinks ,,,it can well be assured that our country can be labelled a nation of alcoholics,,,,,,,

  39. MoneyBrain Avatar
    MoneyBrain

    @ac
    Many Tourist women coming here for SEX, no need to rape dem BUT they might get in some liquors and attempt to rape Bajan men! All we have to do is REDIRECT the sexual deviants troubling the young girls to the wanton tourises! That could lead to more Tourist females cumming hey! LOL

  40. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    No Comment … less the stalker reappears ….!

  41. robert ross Avatar
    robert ross

    David

    Thanks for the link. It needs time for study BUT we are talking about responses of 26i juveniles/adults in the age range of 15-19 focusing in particular on ‘transactional sex’ (for money) and ‘inter-generational sex’ (male 10 years older). The survey avoids use of the word ‘rape’ but speaks of “forcible” sex and “pressure” to have sex. 6.9% of participants reported they “did not want to have sex” (but was this then non-consensual?); 30.8% reported “persuasion” to have sex. 31.8% reported having had sex before the age of 16. and 7.3% before 13.

    Frankly I would have thought the attempted tie in with tourist levels is absurd and the wild talk about castration is to be seen as a well meaning but unduly sour not-so Good Friday response.

  42. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    In my day girls were screwing from the time they were thirteen …. I could call some names if yah like …. ha ha … As fah de White girl community … pussy galore … for those with the right connections. I wonder if things have improved … ? Is there an age restriction to these fetes, dancehall skinouts raves, moon light picnics and drive in movies ….? 🙂

  43. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    BTW Sarge … You know wah sex is …? Just askin’

  44. robert ross Avatar
    robert ross

    BAF

    It is still “your day” – yes?

  45. dompey Avatar
    dompey

    MoneyBrain

    You’re quite right, a lot of female tourist come to the Caribbean to have a good time.

    But the sad reality is many of them are raped while vacationing here in Barbados.

    As a young lad who grew up behind one of the major police station in Barbados.

    I had the unfortunate pleasure of witnessing the many victims who were brought to the police station, in those days to reported these sexual-assaults.

    And one such incident still plays out in my mind to this day: back in the 1970’s, these three guys from Bush Hall Yard Gap ( the criminal element of course) raped this blown hair young tourist lady repeatedly through the night.

    This case never made the news because in those days it was common practice to cover such incidents up.

    The reputation of the Barbados tourist industry was more important I guess, than heightening the public awareness to this moral evil?

  46. dompey Avatar
    dompey

    If you only knew the Nepotism which intricately interlaced our system of governance, throughout the 7 0’s and well into the 90’s, you would be shocked out your socks.

    As I have said early: I grew up just behind one of the major police station in Barbados and therefore, had a firsthand knowledge of its inner workings.

    I saw how the powerful, privileged and well -connected were treated, when they broke the law. As well as the poor, disadvantaged and downtrodden, strata in our society.

    The backdoor swung wide open for the powerful and well – connected, but narrow was the gate for the poor and downtrodden element. As as the Jamaican reggae artist tells us: ” It is a crime to be poor.” And I know that deep within the hearts of many poor people in Barbados, there is a sense that the DLP got they back.

  47. lawson Avatar
    lawson

    MB you are correct many fat unappealing tourists come to Barbados or as some women I know call it …the rent a buck store. But the reality is there isn’t enough to go around. So a plan must be put in place to stop the pressure on your females . May I suggest that all baby girls must be named Work instead of Julia or Mary etc , because most of these jokers don’t want to be anywhere near work. Or if you are caught with a child you have a large picture of roman polansky tattooed on your chest …in white ink.
    Even though a recent Barbados survey suggests that 9 out of 10 people enjoy a gang bang, I will go out on a limb and say that most women just want to be left alone.

  48. MoneyBrain Avatar
    MoneyBrain

    @Lawson
    U tink I does be Pimping? Wha “your females” U referring too? Wuhloss!

    I catch a lift wid 3 youngish American touristes one night and they axed me how come the local men so interested in dem, all the time.
    Had to tell dem dat the Canadian and European girls cum down hey fa checkout the Big Big Bamboo! They were genuinely surprised that such a mission would be conducted. (I didnt mention a word about the sweeeeetnessss of the sugarcane) lol

  49. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @BAFBFP
    BTW Sarge … You know wah sex is …? Just askin’
    +++++++++++
    Looka the time (2.02am), yuh killing dat bottle of see-tru. The ink hasn’t even dried on my submission about Bajan men boasting about how much sex they have had, but interspersed among the blabbermouths are the liars who love to embellish their minimal experience.

    Ladies and gentlemen I present to you the master of the cock and bull tale “BAFBFP”.

  50. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Ross, of course it is still my day … But now I have access to a lot ah sweet middle aged women who losing their mates to twenty and thirty year olds … ha ha .. The life of a woman nah ..! A’right, aright, so alotta them got to familiarize themselves with KY Jelly, but wah … ha ha, no more messy red stuff … 🙂

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