Submitted by Quinzel (BU looks forward to the BU intelligentsia translating this submission)
It is a Mystery.
Here is valuable wisdom! If you rule your speech, you will save yourself from trouble. Your mouth and tongue are two of your greatest enemies. If you will keep them under control and only speak the right words at the right time, your life will be blessed. It is unruled speech that gets men into all sorts of trouble. Here is wisdom for a good life.
You can get into trouble by filthy talking, foolish talking, and jesting. You can damage your reputation, hurt others’ feelings, and waste time with such talking. God despises such speech, though they are very popular with the present generation; and He is coming soon to judge the world for these very sins (Pr 14:9; 26:18-19; Eccl 7:6; Eph 4:29; 5:3-7).
You can get into trouble talking negatively about others. Men will know you are wicked, and you will create enmity and strife. Though easy to commit, the blessed God hates backbiting, slander, talebearing, and whispering. They are much like murder, in that they destroy another’s reputation (Pr 10:18; 11:13; 16:28; 18:8; 20:19; 25:23; 26:20-22).
You can get into trouble by complaining. Who likes a complainer? The LORD hates complaining, and He judges it severely (Num 11:1; Ps 106:24-27). Jesus Christ is coming soon with angels to judge complainers (Jude 1:14-16). It is God’s will for your mouth and tongue to give thanks (Phil 2:14; Col 3:17; I Thes 5:18). This generation is unthankful, so God has judged the world with darkness and sodomy (Rom 1:20-27; II Tim 3:2).
You can get into trouble by over committing. Solomon warned his son about taking on the obligations of others as a surety, such as cosigning loans hastily or extensively (Pr 6:1-5; 22:26-27). It is so easy and thrilling to offer your guarantee for the performance of another, because it gives you an important role in their lives. But wisdom should guard your mouth from creating unnecessary and excessive obligations (Pr 22:3; I Cor 7:32).
You can get into trouble by vows to God. In the difficulties of a painful situation, it is easy to promise things to God to persuade Him to deliver you. But the Lord warns against such oaths (Eccl 5:1-3). It is better not to vow at all, than to vow and not pay (Eccl 5:4-7).
You can get into trouble by name calling. Jesus Christ taught that name calling without a holy cause was a violation of the sixth commandment, the law against murder (Matt 5:21-22). Railing and reviling, which are name calling and abusive language, are condemned by Scripture (Ex 22:28; I Cor 5:11; 6:10; I Pet 3:9). A child that cursed his parents died under Moses’ law (Pr 20:20; Ex 21:17; Lev 20:9; Deut 27:16). Take that Hollywood!
You can get into trouble by lying. Everyone hates a liar. No one can trust a liar. Severe punishments are reserved for liars and perjurers. And all liars shall spend eternity in the lake of fire (Rev 21:8,27; 22:15). Honesty in all situations is not only the best policy; it is the holy requirement of the God of truth (Pr 12:22; Ex 20:16; Lev 19:11; Eph 4:25).
You can get into trouble by disrespecting authority. Do not curse the king even in your thoughts or bedroom (Eccl 10:20). A little bird will carry the wicked words, and you will be in trouble. God despises those who speak evil of rulers (II Pet 2:10-12; Jude 1:8-10). Children must honor parents, wives their husbands, employees their employers, and church members their pastors (Eph 5:33; 6:1-3; I Thes 5:12-13; Titus 2:9-10; I Pet 3:5-6).
You can get into trouble by arguing and debate. Wise men listen rather than talk (Pr 17:27-28; Eccl 7:5). A woman should avoid contention and emphasize kindness (Pr 19:13; 21:19; 27:15; 31:26). God’s ministers reject foolish and unlearned questions, for they are the marks of fools and scorners (I Tim 1:4; 4:7; 6:3-5; II Tim 2:14,16,23; Titus 3:9). Wise men study before talking (Pr 15:28), especially God’s ministers (II Tim 2:15).
You can get in trouble by hurting those around you. Spouses, children, and friends can easily be hurt by cutting words (Pr 12:18; Eph 6:4; Col 3:19). Harsh words stir up anger and cause fights to escalate (Pr 15:1). Relationships are destroyed, bitterness created, and your future dulled by hard words. It is men and women with gracious speech that will be held in high esteem (Pr 11:16; 22:11). It is a command to use gracious words (Col 4:6).
How can you avoid trouble with your mouth and tongue? First, cut your words in half, for many words always contain sin (Pr 10:19). Second, slow down and emphasize listening before speaking (Pr 29:20; Jas 1:19). Third, remember that you will give an account for every idle word and be judged for your words (Matt 12:34-37). Fourth, pray like David, “Set a watch, O LORD, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips” (Ps 141:3).
Rather than trouble, the man who guards his mouth and tongue will enjoy the good life, guaranteed by the infallible word of God. “What man is he that desireth life, and loveth many days, that he may see good? Keep thy tongue from evil, and thy lips from speaking guile” (Ps 34:12-13). Peter also quoted these wonderful words of promise (I Pet 3:10).
There was never trouble for the Lord Jesus Christ by His mouth and tongue. He spoke like no other man in world history (Ps 45:2; Isaiah 50:4; Luke 4:22; John 7:46). He could comfort a widow at her only son’s funeral, or he could expose Pharisee heresy to the delight of His audience (Luke 7:11-18; Matt 7:28-29). There was nothing to charge Him for at His trial, so the Jews falsely accused Him by perverting His pure words (Matt 26:59-61). His pure words will soon judge them for their sins (Matt 7:21-23).
ac, your ARE following CULT teachings, they have MADE A MESS of God’s Word! And you DO NOT have any spiritual discernment to understand that!
The BLIND leading the BLIND!
So it be; TRUE to FORM!
the FACT is that man made religions and religionist are all Parts of CULT using methods of indoctrination.and hero worshipped by human or artifical images to reinforced or plant in to one thinking. ac does not join or has become any of such religiosty. as the bible clearly warns Man against such adoration connecting to heaven or earth.
Bible Characters Raised from the Dead
Copyright 2011 by Lauretta Marigny – All rights reserved
Easter is the Christian holiday that celebrates the Resurrection, the day that Jesus was raised from the dead. Many people have heard the story about how Jesus died and rose again. However, many people do not know that the Bible tells about several other people who were raised from the dead. A list of them follows.
Widow of Zarephath’s son
(I Ki 17:17-24) raised by Elijah
Elijah was a great prophet. He was sent by God to the widow of Zarephath. Elijah told the widow, who was running out of flour and oil, that God would provide for her and her son. God miraculously replenished the flour and oil in her containers so she could provide for herself, her son and Elijah. But then her son got sick and died. Elijah went up to the boy’s room in the loft. He laid himself over the boy’s body three times and then prayed that God would allow the boy’s soul to come back into him. The boy was raised from the dead.
Shunamite’s son
(II Ki 4:20-37) raised by Elisha
Elisha stayed in Shunem with a woman and her husband whenever he passed through their town. In fact, the couple built an extra room in their house for Elisha to use. Elisha wanted to give the woman something for her hospitality. He promised she would have a son in a year’s time. She did have a son, but when the son was boy he was harvesting with his father. He got a terrible headache so the dad sent him home. The mother held the boy in her arms, but he died. The woman put the boy on Elisha’s bed and went to get Elisha. When Elisha arrived he prayed, he laid himself over the boy’s body, and he paced back and forth in the house. The boy came back to life.
Man tossed into Elisha’s tomb
(II Ki 13:21) raised by God’s Spirit
People were about to bury a man, but when they saw a band of raiders coming, they simply threw the dead man’s body into Elisha’s tomb. The Bible says when the corpse touched Elisha’s bones that he revived.
Widow of Nain’s son
(Lk 7:11-16) raised by Jesus
Jesus stopped a funeral procession as they were carrying the casket to the cemetery. Jesus had compassion on the weeping mother. He told her to stop crying, and then he raised her son from the dead.
Synagogue ruler Jairus’ 12-year-old daughter
(Mk 5:35-43) raised by Jesus
Jairus asked Jesus to come heal his dying daughter. By the time Jesus arrived she had already died. Jesus sent the mourners out, but took the girls’ parents and Peter, James and John into the room where the dead girl lay. He said, “Little girl, get up.” She did.
Lazarus
(Jn 11:1-44) raised by Jesus
Lazarus had been in the grave four days when Jesus approached his tomb. Jesus asked the people to take away the stone. Then Jesus called out, “Lazarus, come forth.” Lazarus came out, still wrapped in the strips of cloth. People had to help him out of them.
Tabitha also known as Dorcas
(Acts 9:36-41) raised by Peter
Tabitha was a seamstress who did many good deeds. She got sick and died. Since Peter was in a nearby town they asked him to come. Peter had everyone leave the room where Tabitha lay. He knelt down and prayed and then he said to the body, “Tabitha, arise.” She opened her eyes and then sat up.
Eutychus
(Acts 20:7-12) raised by Paul
Late one night Paul was speaking to a group of believers. A young man was sitting in the window listening. He fell asleep and fell from the third story to his death. Paul ran down, laid himself over the body and then embraced him. He told everyone the boy was OK, and he was.
Men raised upon Jesus’ death
(Mt 27:51-53) raised by God
When Jesus died there was a violent earthquake and the veil in the temple was torn from top to bottom. The Bible says tombs were opened and many bodies of saints arose from the dead. It says that after Jesus’ resurrection they went into Jerusalem where many
you refer to contradictions in the bible not me.why waste time discussing theses obvious contrdictions and complexities rather than focussing on the goodness of themystery of the creation which is life.give thanks for life and love
@Zoe
“you DO NOT have any spiritual discernment to understand that”
Where can I purchase this spiritual discernment??
Observing | January 20, 2014 at 2:30 PM |
@Zoe
“you DO NOT have any spiritual discernment to understand that”
“Where can I purchase this spiritual discernment??”
Sorry cannot be bought! NOT for sale!
Modern-day dullard and personality-deficient latter-day prophet Zoe reminds us on January 20, 2014 at 2:52 PM of his sorrow that spiritual discernment is (using the needless upper case and exclamations so dear to him) “NOT for sale!”
That would be the same modern-day dullard and personality-deficient prophet Zoe who tells us that medical professionals are unnecessary because dead people are coming back to life in Africa.
Prophet Zoe, you pitiful, pitiful person. Have you ever been to Africa? No, you haven’t. Some of us have, you prick.
Sorry balance but would not REPEAT GODs clear determination and explanation of death and MAN or u don.t..
@ Zoe | January 20, 2014 at 2:52 PM |
“Sorry cannot be bought! NOT for sale!”
Oh, yeah!
Not even from the beings that visited Ezekiel?
Were these beings angels from your Yahweh’s kingdom or beings from the Orion’s belt constellation or the Sirius star system?
Since you have always failed to address the queries raised about Ezekiel and his encounter with other life forms maybe, Zoe, you will forgive the nuksie for indulging (again) in your favourite pastime of C&P to bring a measure of sanity to your religious gobbledygook.
“Spread out above the heads of the living creatures was what looked something like a vault, sparkling like crystal, and awesome. Under the vault their wings were stretched out one toward the other, and each had two wings covering its body.
When the creatures moved, I heard the sound of their wings, like the roar of rushing waters, like the voice of the Almighty, like the tumult of an army. When they stood still, they lowered their wings.
Then there came a voice from above the vault over their heads as they stood with lowered wings. Above the vault over their heads was what looked like a throne of lapis lazuli, and high above on the throne was a figure like that of a man.
I saw that from what appeared to be his waist up he looked like glowing metal, as if full of fire, and that from there down he looked like fire; and brilliant light surrounded him. Like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the radiance around him.
This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. When I saw it, I fell facedown, and I heard the voice of one speaking.
He said to me, “Son of man, stand up on your feet and I will speak to you.” As he spoke, the Spirit came into me and raised me to my feet, and I heard him speaking to me.”
Balance the last sentance should be either u belive in GODS WORD or u don.,t..
NOW that it has been agreed that that GOD is not a LIAR and he keeps his promises ,,,Now the subject of the resurrection and events after the crucifixion are as of utter importance,,,,,,,,,,
WE have a Man (Jesus) who has been crucified by the Roman Govt,,,also we must not forget that the thousands of people who loved followed and believed in Jesus would not “go away” silent.. there would be revolt,,, a man of goodness ..A man of the people and for the people has been taken away…. of course this kind of abomination would not sit well with the Jesus followers ….revolt takes hold so what is the govt going to do……Lo and behold three days later A MAN called JESUS is not in HIS TOMB…..and somehow mysteriously returns to life,,,,,, Mystery of all mysteries not really.. ..Now take a look again at the events surrounding his death ,,,,,,,,Now take a look at the Response by his Followers all Hell breaks out,,,,, even the skies shed tears.could n’t be a happy or triumphant time for the Roman govt this is a major problem for the Roman govt ..So how can the govt quell the fears of the people only by giving the people what they wanted and that was Jesus Or “A Jesus”,,, three days later word spreads like wildfire ,,Jesus is alive,,,revolt calms fears of Rome burning to the ground is quenched the followers of Jesus have gotten what they wanted,,Hallelujah,,,,Christ is Risen but the truth lies only in the hearts of the Roman Govt,, The bible has warned us that the heart of man is deceitful above all things …some of these facts have been recorded in the Bible some have been omitted for obvious reason and doubting Thomas will shed more light on this,,,,,,,after all he was a man who knew Jesus and would have been privy to what he would say or do and therefore would have had no reason to doubt or disbelieve Jesus resurrection.
IT IS APPOINTED unto MAN once to DIE and JESUS was MAN
overall one should be able to start putting some of the missing pieces of the resurrection together by looking at the events leading up to Jesus death. and the players involved but most important the words spoken before and during his crucifixion…….here is another FACT,,,, the night before he died,,,,,,,he asked his heavenly Father for leniency,,but why ask for leniency “IF” he was going to be resurrected,would it not have been known to him that he would be resurrected .. after all God as Jesus is all knowing,,,,, FACT The bread and wine was a memorial given to his disciples by Jesus,,ask yourself again if Jesus was going to be resurrected would he have offered a memorial on behalf, of himself ,,obviously the memorial of bread and wine was a permanent sign of his physical death and one by which his disciples should remember HIM……these are all facts in the bible which when sewn together can decipher in a logical way whether there was a resurrection of JESUS physical body, and If GOD is a LIAR ,,,,,,
An’ all DIS be correcK. For did de Lawd not say UNTO him in a randomly capitalized wAy, SAYING (Elijah 15: 42) DAT de Lawd be tellin de trute (Shontte-Shanta 94: 42) and therefore those who SHALL use random cApiTals SHALL be as ‘mong we chosen (just as fast as we can stop speaking Aramic, which are de lang o’ we lil’ god).
An de Big Boss Engineer he be sayin: LOL and Hahaha an’ Bushy you got me so wrong. But smiley face.
And then a pitifully dickish man didst come unto him, saying: “I beat dat bitch wid licks when he got into Foundation, man, heah???
An de Lawd didst say unto him, saying, “Is you Bonny Peppa?”
And Bonny Peppa said: “I is.”
And the Lawd said: “You is damned fo’ eternity, Bonny”. Ha and ha and ha and Bajan smiley face.
as a follow up we have a risen Christ three days after he is laid in the tomb….as recorded in the scripture.. Now a unusual problem one of identity or image creeps into this unfolding and new development,, The word is out..Note the bible specifically states that Jesus meets and walk with people who knew him for a long time ,,however these people does not recognize JESus,,, Yet as ZOE correctly states the BIBLE states that Jesus came back as he was physically before he was crucified and buried,,,However none of his family and friends recognize Jesus,,sounds like identity thief ,,very unusual and strange after all Jesus was only gone for Three Days,,,Yet cannot be recognized.among his peers ….
Now her comes the man with the biggest BALLS,,, no dummie at all,,THOMAS,,,He states He wants to see the evidence ,,,,But why would Thomas ask for more evidence if after all the years of being around Jesus and being a confidant he would have recognize JESUS the moment he saw HIM..LO and BEhold,,, The new and improved JESUS shows up with his identity card the nails and prints,,,,,Thomas one not to believe after much coercion gives Him, The truth of the matter there should have been no need for confusion among those who knew him and sat and talk with Jesus over the years,,but they new that after the final night in which Jesus met with them. the memorial that was done ,was an ending, they also new that if Jesus was going to return he WOULD have told Them. Now ask how could one not recognize a friend that they knew for over twenty or so years after that friend had gone away for three days,,, Thomas ”The quizzical ” was not lead to doubt by his own feelings but because he had enough evidence of spent years with JESUS and knew that one of the most important events of Jesus life JESUS would not have withheld from them…
Yes, Jesus was a man, but no ordinary man, He was SINLESS, Incarnate Deity, God of very God IN* Flesh, incomprehensible, but absolutely TRUE!
“Its appointed unto man once to die, then Judgement” (Heb.9:27) Does NOT apply to Jesus, as God-Man, Redeemer, Saviour and Lord of Lords, as HE* IS* Judge of ALL other men, as He will sit at the Great White Throne Judgement, to judge and put ALL those who REJECTED God’s mercy, love, and grace, in Jesus Christ, in the Lake of Fire! They willfully chose, to deny, and reject God’s universal offer of forgiveness of Sins, and the Gift of Eternal Life in, by, and through The Lord Jesus Christ.
Yet His body also had otherworldly properties. He could pass through solid walls (John 20:19). He could appear in different forms so His IDENTITY WAS NOT Immediately obvious. (Mark 16:12). He could suddenly appear out of nowhere (Luke 24:36). And He could ascend directly into heaven in bodily form, with no adverse effect as He went through the atmosphere (Luke 24:51; Acts 1:9) http://www.gty.org
Zoe | January 20, 2014 at 8:32 AM |
“And He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 “SEE MY Hands and MY FEET, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, FOR A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONES AS YOU SEE I HAVE.” (Luke 24: 38-39).
yes it pains me to have to decipher such an event that is most precious in the hearts of man…i too was taught and belived such an event occurred but i have come to the the realization that man’s heart is deceitful , my belive in the teachings of christ have not waned nor would they change because of what i now belive.,
Is it any wonder why these religious threads generate the most comments yet don’t get anywhere when all is said and done?
Just observing
That is because the posters dont know anything about the Word of God
The non religious threads generate lots of comments too, yet don’t get anywhere when all is said and done. Ah lie?
Barrow tried his best but his best efforts failed.
Just observing
No one knows the word of “God” GP.
I have asked the question time and time again with no one responding…who or what is “God’ and what purpose does this “God” serve.
If you attempt to answer the question ,do spare me references to those questionable scriptures.
If your foundation is suspect your attempted edifice will crumble..
@ Vincent
Can you please say how you KNOW that no one knows the word of God?
You saw this written somewhere?
You have done the research?
You just feel so…?
Or is it that since YOU don’t know it, this tells you that no one else does either?
Or are you just talking shiite too …like ac – and now Zoe with his logically, intellectually and OBVIOUSLY contradictory statement that Jesus was fully man AND AT THE SAME TIME, fully God.
His religious dogma requires that he come to this ridiculous, illogical conclusion…. Now in any serious research, this would tell Zoe that his original premise is FLAWED…..however that premise is his church doctrine….it it cannot be questioned… 🙂
BUSH TEA u are a LIAR a F>>Ing LIAR <<<BBE told me to tell u so……dic head ……now go grow some balls……Eunuch.. u liitle munchin…..and don’t forget to tek uh meds …u runaway lunatic,,,,,,,,and by the way,,throw dem steriods in the garbage,,,,,,dem meking u crazy….a,hole…
Ha Ha LOL muh belly!!!
Just a little bit more and your ass will be headed for Jenkins ac…
Can’t understand how they let you out since the last time that your husband committed you – and headed off for Arizona…
@bushie
why you don’t give ac wha she want and leh she keep quiet nuh?
yeah butt head u should know cause jenkins gave” we” both the walking papers at the same time
vincent
here is a report from a missionary to some tribes
The next morning, we didn’t have to wait long. Sometime between first and second breakfast, Kris surprised us with the following questions: “So all this work you do teaching God’s Talk and planting posts, how does that work? Say if we wanted to hear this teaching, would we have to go to you in Stone village? Or would you come and go from Stone village to teach us? Or would you come build houses and live with us for several years to teach us to read and write in our own language and then teach us God’s Talk, plant the posts and build the house until it is finished?” Ambox and I just looked at each other. Whoa! We answered that if a place wanted us to come and teach them, we would be happy to come and live among them to do just that. He said, “That’s good. You told us all about your work but never said anything about coming to live with us.” We explained that that was for a reason, that the thinking needed to come from whoever has ears to hear God’s talk and that those who wanted to hear the teaching would ask to have us come. He thanked us for letting him know, and shortly thereafter went off to the bush to cut wood with some other men for a building project.
This unexpected development perked Ambox and me up to the point where we decided that we would stay another night at least. In the meantime, we took advantage of the morning’s sunny weather (before the approach of midday and the rain which would surely come) to head for the nearby Keturiyu River (maybe 10-15 minutes’ hike from the village). Surrounded by an entourage of children, we made our way down the path to the pristine mountain stream. I had overheard Ambox telling the neighborhood kids regarding me and the foods I would eat that “his skin may be white, but his insides are black” and so they were excited to take me up to a waterfall only 20-30 minutes away to catch frogs for an afternoon snack. Ambox caught up with Kris along the way and the kids snatched me over to see the rock pools.
After just 3 minutes of watching the kids jumping and splashing in the icy clear water, I knew I had to come back and join them as soon as I could. But the frog hunters would not be dissuaded. “Kana, kinni!” (Come on, let’s go!) they urged, as we waded through the rocky riverbed under the cool forest canopy.
After passing through a section of almost-waist-deep water and a series of rapids coursing across rocky slabs, we rounded the corner to the base of a breathtaking waterfall hundreds of feet above us. At the base of the lowest cascade were several men standing in a pile of fresh wood shavings. They were carving out bush posts and studs with their long bushknives and axes. Nax was one of them.
Nax (NAHKS) is standing at left holding the axe
We chatted for a few minutes, and then the children encouraged me on: they wanted their amphibious quarry. I was just curious to get a closer look at this majestic falls, the upper part of which came down in a double strand and plummeted for maybe 50 feet before cascading down the mountainside to where we were.
I shed my slick shoes and became a 17-year-old Panamanian MK all over again (in my mind) as I followed the kids upward. About halfway up, though, a thought hit me with renewed clarity: This seemed like a good idea at the time, but I have to get back down somehow. And I would like to do so in one piece, preferably. And I have a family to get back to. And a ministry I’d very much like to continue. With all those thoughts now ensconced in my mind, I decided that I could take pictures from a somewhat flatter place in the middle of the falls just fine, rather than continuing up to the top. Most of the children cheerfully scaled up the rest of the way to the base of the uppermost falls, while I got my shots for Janeene and the boys to see later and then very carefully and deliberately followed some of the children down, skirting through the edge and down through the thick jungle slope grabbing vines and trees and feeling like a clumsy Tarzan in the process.
The twin upper falls of the Ozeziu River from my vantage point about halfway up the cascades—and this picture does NOT do it justice!!!
Once down at the woodworking site again, I saw that Kris had joined Nax and his friend on the job. When they greeted me, the work came to a screeching halt. I was peppered with questions. “Why didn’t you tell us yesterday that you would move to whatever place wants to hear God’s talk? We didn’t know that yesterday.” With a growing but still cautious optimism (we’ve been through a lot in our first 12 years of ministry among the Tobo), I was beginning to sense that there was some real interest, at least among these three men, in having us come and teach them.
The darkening skies hastening my departure and they needed to resume their work, so I left them and could hear them still talking away as the sounds of their chopping and carving receded into the distance and was overtaken by the roar of the stream we followed downriver toward the house. Ambox and I met up at the swimming hole and had a good conversation on the short hike back. The rains almost overtook us as we walked up the last slope to our house.
The amphibian raiders’ hunt had been a rousing success. After sharing a small afternoon feast consisting of at least 5 different species of frogs (yes, the whole frogs, but the legs and liver were my favorites), some good conversation with Ambox and a quick rest, we had supper.
And then…..they came.
They came, and we were quite simply blown away by what happened that evening.
Maybe half a dozen men and several women crowded into the house and they had questions. And more questions.
“We were thinking a lot about what you said yesterday. We really don’t know the answers to your questions, but we really want to know!”
“Where does the spirit really go after our body dies?”
“Does God have 2 wives? We heard someone tell us that before. Is that really true?”
“We know that there are a lot of religions. How do we know which ones are right?”
The schoolteacher Namas was there, and he was opening up, sharing personal struggles with his own beliefs. “What behavior can I do to be straight in God’s eyes? I don’t know. I’ve been to town and heard many different beliefs, and these different religious groups are always quarrelling with each other. Who’s right? It’s like the string in my mind is tangled up in a big knot, and I need someone to untie that knot in my mind!”
Nax said, “We have religion and meet on Sundays in this village. It’s like on Sunday we wear one shirt. But then on Monday and Tuesday we wear a different shirt. Shouldn’t we be wearing the same shirt all the time?!?” Ambox and I looked wide-eyed at each other as electricity shot through my veins. You see, when we teach through the Bible chronologically, this illustration is actually used several times. Just as Adam and Eve’s fig leaves were inadequate and God clothed them in animal skins (shedding blood in the process), we are clothed in Christ’s righteousness 24-7 (and not just on Sundays) thanks to His work alone on the cross!
Another comment Nax made was this: “That question you asked us yesterday about how we can stand before God and how will he judge us, it is hard to answer that question. We don’t know. We know that we don’t know this.”
Ambox and I explained that for each one of these questions, God’s Word had the answer. But to answer them, we needed to start at the beginning and plant the posts rather than throwing a stud or rafter up into thin air. Our visitors understood and accepted our answer, but that did little to stop the torrent of questions that flooded us until well past midnight.
Then one of the men spied Ambox’s copy of 1 Timothy lying nearby in the firelight. “Eee, let me see that!” He eagerly clutched the book and tried a few halting words. Finally, he turned to us, “You two read this.” Ambox and I each read a few verses at the beginning of the epistle. The room fell silent and they were riveted. I thought at one point that their jaws were going to hit the split bamboo floor of the hut. When we finished, Namas said, “This is so clear. I’ve never heard anything like this before.” Looking over at Ambox, he said, “You know, that bit you read about how myths and genealogies of our ancestors and that talk leads to messing up people’s thinking, that is so true here with us. Our thinking is so messed up by all this, and I think we need to hear what God’s talk says and follow that and not man’s thinking, not even what religious leaders have to say.”
I was dumbstruck when Nax leaned over and told me, “My insides are like a ripe banana. I am ready to hear this talk.”
I could go on, but you get the picture by now. Needless to say, after our visitors had reluctantly left to go to their homes, Ambox and I found it impossible to sleep most of the rest of that short night. We were both overwhelmed with joy and sadness. Joy that these people were hungering for the truth, Sadness that we couldn’t adequately share it all with them in one short night without laying that careful foundation that would help them to grasp it. After years of watching the vast majority of our Tobo friends in Stone village shrug off the gospel, years of struggle, hardship, disappointment after disappointment in the ministry, this night was simply blowing my mind! These people truly are ripe bananas! They are ready to hear this message! Tears streamed down my smoky face as I finally succumbed to a restless sleep.
Saturday, January 11th:
I awoke with tears in my eyes once again as I overheard Kris and Ambox already in an animated discussion about spiritual things and a desire to hear God’s Word read and taught in their mother tongue. Though by now we did not want to leave this village, we had planned to go to a second village, and so we made our preparations to leave the next day. Our last day was spent excitedly discussing the previous night’s events, talking about what we were reading in 1 Timothy, bathing in the glorious river before the afternoon deluge hit us, catching a much-needed catnap or two—Tobo-style, and eating yet more sam (several women in the neighborhood were bringing plates of the delicacy to us every day we were there, along with bamboo shoots, cucumbers and one of my favorites—kétémun (KUHT-uh-moon)–a hybrid cucumber-cantaloupe with unknown origins, since no Tobo person I know has ever seen or conceived of a cantaloupe before).
That night, several people came again. We saw a few new faces among the group this time. Nax was not there (we later found out that his children were sick and he was helping his wife at home). Nevertheless, in addition to Kris, 3 other men stayed up talking with us until after 3 in the morning! At one point, Raymond said, “You two guys just have to come and live with us and tell us this. Why can’t we start planting the posts tonight?” They said that they represented most of the community in wanting our 2 families to come, but that the only ones absent in coming to see us were the religious leaders. They would need to meet with them and the rest of the community and they said, “The answer MUST be YES! It cannot be no! If it’s no, then even if it’s just us 3 men, we will come to you (here they looked squarely not at me, but at Ambox) and YOU will teach us! But no, there are at least 100 of us who want you to come. We can give you ground for houses. Let the others just sit, and we will come and hear the teaching.” Ambox and I told them that we would love to come and teach them, but that it was up to them. We would have to let them meet and get word to us with their answer.
Sunday, January 12th:
After an even shorter night’s sleep than the one before, we readied ourselves for an even longer trek than the one that brought us here. We would head for Fern village via a circuitous route that would take us all day to traverse. But first, of course, a hearty breakfast that Frodo Baggins and company would surely appreciate before a long quest. During our meal, Nax came over. We exchanged cellphone numbers in the hopes of hearing word as to any decisions regarding an official invitation for us to come. He apologized for not coming over due to the sickness in his family and wanted us to be sure that he had really longed to come and sit and talk with us until morning as well. He told us “I’m like a dog hunting and chasing down a possum. My stomach won’t stop growling and my insides are just burning. I can’t stop until I get that possum, I have to hear this talk.” So on that note, he and our hosts escorted us to the edge of the village and waved goodbye from the heights as we began a long and (for me) painful first descent and the start of what was to be a 9 ½ hour hike in some very inhospitable terrain. What lay ahead for us in Fern village? I wondered. Then I thought, What lies ahead on this hike today? The tendons around my right knee began to scream like a howler monkey sucking on helium and they provided part of the answer to that second question. The rest, well, would become evident as the day wore on.
WOW….sumbody ask a simple question about “GOD:” and in return got a long winded bedtime story,,,,,,,,
“In the BEGINNING was the WORD, and the WORD was with God and the WORD was God…And the WORD became FLESH (, the MAN, Jesus) and dwelt among us, and we beheld His ( Jesus) GLORY as the only begotten of the Father, FULL of Grace and truth.” ( John 1:1, 14).
This Incarnation of the WORD of God, who WAS GOD, and still IS* God, the Second Person of the Eternal Godhead, is not, cannot be understood by ‘Spiritists/Spiritualists, like BUSH TEA et al,
Because, “And the LIGHT (Jesus, God-Man) shines in the DARKness, and the DARKNESS did (cannot) comprehend it.” ( v. 3)
Such is the case with Bush Tea, and those of his ilk, who dwell in spiritual DARKNESS!
BT et Al…..
Man only knows what man knows.
…and we can continue spinning top in mud,believing in our own regurgitated effluence.
Man Vincent what are you saying?
Man only knows what man knows shiite!!!
You have NO IDEA what anyone else knows…..
Do you know how your computer and your internet communications work?
Do you know how your very eyes really work?
Probably not. Nor do you know thousands of other everyday things.
…but there are some person that actually KNOW and understand such things.
Why would you think that spiritual matters are different?
Bushman have u EVER read your views .U are the Only person on this earth that OPPOSES HIMSELF.. Are U SURE that U NOT BBE.. some how i believe are one of the same.. OH GOD…….
Man Vincent what are you saying?
Man only knows what man knows shiite!!!
You have NO IDEA what anyone else knows…..
Do you know how your computer and your internet communications work?
Do you know how your very eyes really work?
Probably not. Nor do you know thousands of other everyday things.
…but there are some person that actually KNOW and understand such things.
Why would you think that spiritual matters are different?
@ Zoe
Bushie is getting a little bored arguing with you now…..
You obviously have some allegiance to your religious dogma and that has become your point of reference – in spite of its obvious illogic, lack of support and clear confusion.
Bushie has no problem with your quoting bible verses, but if you don’t understand what you are quoting, you just make yourself look like a fool……
Also, your resort to labeling Bushie as “spiritualist” and “dwelling in darkness” only makes you look childish…..shiite talk don’t bother bushmen 🙂
Now, for your information,….what 1st John 1:14 actually says is this:
“In the beginning was the word and the word was with god, and the word was god.”
I.e.
Before life on earth as we know it even started, the “word” (the revealer of the truth, the way and the light), was among those spiritual beings that we call God, and was in fact one of those beings (as opposed to other spiritual beings in existence such as angels etc).
“And the word became flesh and dwelt among us”
I.e.
This spiritual being, (God himself) gave up his deity, and became flesh – like the temporary beings that HE conceived and created.
John 3:16 explains it much better ….. That God (a plural word ) so loved the project “life on Earth” that they sacrificed (gave) the “word” to become a mere human being, to provide a methodology by which other temporary beings may transcend the boundary between the temporary “life on earth project”, and the spiritual realm that lies beyond the boundaries of time.
“And we beheld his glory as the first begotten of the father, full of grace and glory”
I.e.
Mankind has been able to witness this special person live, (with the bestowal of the Holy Spirit which was conferred at his baptism), die, and be resurrected – to become the first begotten son of God ……in other words, the first product of “project life on Earth” to have completed the cycle of:
1- birth as a human being
2- bestowal of God’s Holy Spirit – the special sense that opens awareness of spiritual matters, and the development of that “sense” which Paul likened to moving beyond drinking milk….
3- death of the physical existence
4- successful resurrection to spiritual reality and membership of God as a ‘begotten’ son
As he himself explained, he is but the “firstborn of many others” to follow him….
This is in fact the GOOD NEWS (gospel) that was preached by Jesus himself, and by those disciples who understood his message (and who have been bestowed with that additional “sense” needed to understand spiritual matters….called the Holy Spirit)
It makes no sense trying to explain “light” to a blind man.
…and it makes no sense trying to explain spiritual matters to a fella without the required sixth sense…..
…so don’t be surprised if you fail to get it Vincent 🙂 ….Zoe don’t either …
…let Bushie know if you need anything else explained “Zoey”… LOL
OH GOD ! BUSHMAN…what U wrote are those actually the words of BBE ….Hell man u just confirmed my suspicions YOU are one of the same borne and designed out of confusion and rage.
Exegesis of John 1: 1.
In the beginning (en archei). ‘Arche’ is definite, though anarthrous like our at home, in town, and the similar Hebrew ‘be reshith’ In Genesis 1:1. Here John carries our thoughts BEYOND the beginning of creation in time to ETERNITY. There is no argument here to prove the existence of God any more than in Genesis. It is simply assumed. Either God exist and IS* the Creator of the universe as scientists like Eddington and Jeans assumes or matter is eternal or it has come out of nothing. ‘Was’ (en). Three times in this sentence John uses this imperfect of ‘eimi.’ TO BE which coveys NO idea of origin for God or for the ‘Logos’ (Word, Jesus) simply continuous existence. Quite a different verb (egeneto, became) appears in verse 14 for the begining of the Incarnation of the Logos (Jesus) See the distinction sharply drawn in 8:58 “before Abraham came ( genesthai) I AM” (eimi, timeless existence). ‘The WORD’ ( ho logos). Logos is from ‘lego’ old word in Homer to lay by, to collect, to put words side by side, to speak, to express an opinion.
The term Logos is applied to Christ only in John 1:1, 14 and Rev 19:13 and 1 John 1:1 concerning the Word of Life. The personal pre-existence of Christ is taught in 11 Cor. 8:9; Phil. 2:6f; Col. 1:17 and in Heb 1:2f and in John 17:5. Here this term suits John’s purpose better than ‘sophia’ (wisdom) and is his answer to the Gnostics who either DENIED the actual humanity of Christ ( Docetic Gnostics) or who separated the ‘aeon’ Christ from the man Jesus ( Cerinthian Gnostics). The pre-existent Logos “became flesh” ( sarx egeneto, verse 14) and by this phrase John answered both heresies at once. ‘With God’ (pros ton theon). Though existing eternally with God the Logos ( Jesus) was in perfect fellowship with God. ‘Pros’ with the accusative presents a plane of equality and intimacy, face to face with each other.”And the Word was God” (kai theos en ho logos). By exact and careful language, John denied Sabellianism by not using ‘ho theos en ho logos’ . That would mean that all of God was expressed in ‘ho logos’ and the terms would be interchangeable, each having the article. The subject is made plain by the article ( ho logos) and the predicate without it. (theos) just as in John 4:24 .’pneuma ho theos’ can only mean “God is spirit,” not “spirit is God.” So in 1 John 4:16 ‘ho theos agape estin’ can only mean “God is love,” not “love is God” as a so-called Christian scientist would confusedly say.. So in John 1:14 ‘ho Logos sarx egeneto’, “the Word became flesh,” NOT “the flesh became Word. Here John disposes of Arianism also because the ‘Logos” was eternally God, fellowship of Father and Son, each necessary to the other. Thus in the Trinity we see personal fellowship on an equality. ( Word Pictures in The New Testament, Vol V, pp. 3, 4, 5)
@ Zoe
LOL Ha Ha oh Shirt!
Muh belly…. 🙂
Bush Tea, Man, you cannot even get the correct Book, Chapter and verse right!
“Now, for your information,….what 1st John 1:14 actually says is this:”
This is NOT what I John 1: 14 says, the following quotation IS from John 1:1. but then again, this is to be expected from you BT, in your state of confusion and eclectic mixture of spiritual deception; after all, REMEMBER YOU stated openly here on BU, that ” I WILL BE GOD” just like you real spiritual ‘Father’ Satan, the Father of ALL lies, and deception!
“In the beginning was the word and the word was with god, and the word was god.”
I.e.
Before life on earth as we know it even started, the “word” (the revealer of the truth, the way and the light), was among those spiritual beings that we call God, and was in fact one of those beings (as opposed to other spiritual beings in existence such as angels etc).
ZOE
wHY DO YOU WASTE YOUR TIME WITH BUSH TEA ON THEOLOGICAL MATTERS?
BUSHTEA SAYS HE HAS NIT STUDIED THE WORD HE ONLY ASKS ETC BUT HE KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING, EVEN CONTRADICTING SEVERAL RENOWNED BIBLE SCHOLARS ON GENERALLY ACCEPTED DOCTRINES OF THE BIBLE – NOT DOGMA.
I HAVE BEEN AMONG REAL BIBLE SCHOLARS. MEN WHO TEACH THE WORD WELL. I FIND THEM TO BE VERY DISCERNING AND TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHEN THEY LEARN SOMETHING THAT THEY HAD NOT KNOWN BEFORE. MEN WHO CAN ARGUE BY QUOTING THE WORD, OR USING WORD STUDIES TO PROVE OR DISPROVE A POINT
Bt…Chuckle….I will leave you too argue statements/words/keys that have no base….have fun….
ZOE i admonish you on behalf of the reader to be more specific in the Definition of GOD .What u have written is beyond the understanding of the carnal mind.Yours included .well maybe with the exception of BUSHMAN.
THERE WONT BE ANY ARGUEMENT FROM ME
GP, I just use BT as a means to reach other quiet observers, and onlookers, who may just be enlightened with the Truth of God’s Word, so,
“Preach the Word! Be ready in season, out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound DOCTRINE, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers, and they will turn their ears away from the TRUTH, and be turned aside to fables. But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.” ( 2 Tim. 4: 2-5)
I HAVE READ THE WORD FOR MOST OF MY LIFE AND STUDIED IT SINCE 1968.
I HAVE READ BOOKS AND COMMENTARIES BY SOME OF THE MOST CELEBRATED OF THEOLOGIANS AND BIBLE SCHOLARS, I HAVE LISTENED TO SOME OF THE BEST PREACH FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, BUT I HAVE NEVER READ THE RUBBISH I HAVE SEEN ON BU ANYWHERE ELSE
TRULY AMAZING
Zoe for the unlearned and ignorant..can u defined in laymans term the definition of GOD.. ..For surely there are many definitions in the BIBLE one of many from which you can expound with a clear and practicallity . not necessarily having to repeat or regurgitate the teachings of Paul or others apostle writings.For example the BIBLE states that GOD is LOVE…explain by bringing god into focus in a realistic and Human way……Go ahead… i am waiting
LOL
GP is back, the dynamic duo rides again….. 🙂
….The men who know every bible quote and who have ‘studied and taught the word’ for decades……
….and yet can’t answer a simple question logically by using simple English….. But can only spout gibberish sounding exegesis – copied from books that no one ever reads …..because they are just a bunch if bible school gibberish. …
….which bible prophet “studied the word” in college?
Anyone has an answer yet to Technician’s question of about 5 years ago now?
WHY DID GOD CREATE THE DEVIL?
No sensible answer from wunna, ….but yet you two ARE masters at insults and disdain for those who dare to disagree…LOL ….Bushie could easily see the two of wunna crucifying a bushman if given half a chance….aha Ha Ha …
ZOE…
Bushie does not even have a bible….that verse was extracted from your post this morning….sorry for any error transcribed…..
Bushie does not claim to know every verse and quote and cannot be held responsible for any EXACT scriptural quotes…..except probably John 3:16 🙂
How many doctors do you know who walk around with “The introduction to general science” or engineers who keep copies of the “introduction to thermodynamics”? …and quote word for word…?
If wunna REALLY understand this thing, …why not have a civilized intellectual discussion WITHOUT cutting and pasting that lotta shiite from those asinine theological courses?
Start by answering ac’s question above……
AMAZING!
GP..maybe just maybe before YOUR mortal LIFE has ended and YOU GP ..yes YOU GP is suspending in TIME and everlasting ETERNITY maybe .just maybe u would come to full conscientiouness that YOUR GOD create man as HUMAN BEINGS and not robots with the same ability as u to think….think on these things
“BUT YET U TWO ARE MASTERS OF DISDAIN AND INSULTS WHO DARE DISAGREE.”….EXACTLY….BUSHMAN…EXACTLY LIKE YOU…. APPLAUSE..
Imagine if we have agnostics reading who are trying their best to filter some pearls of wisdom from the exchanges but instead have to suffer through the daily invective ad hominems and discord. What is the topic again? Sick!
DAVID
ON BU IT IS THE NORM TO have to suffer through the daily invective ad hominems and discord. What is the topic again? Sick! aH LIE?
GP wHAT IS TRULY AMAZING IS THAT YOU PRIDE YOURSELF AS BEING INTELLIGENT AND A DOCTOR TO BOOT>>>>NOW THAT IS TRULY AMAZING<<<>>>>>>.. BTW ONE DAY I WOULD GIVE YOU THE IN HOUSE STORY OF PAUL>>>>>I KNOW YOU GOING TO BE WAITING,,,,,,,,,, PAUL THE SCAMP….
BTW the above comment onJan.22 @ 4.25 was a QUOTE taken from BUSH TEA comment to GP>>>
Bush Tea | January 22, 2014 at 2:23 PM
No sensible answer from wunna, ….but yet you two ARE masters at insults and disdain for those who dare to disagree…LOL ….…
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Wailt wuh happened to the rest of my comment posted to GP on JAN 22@6.22pm where i said it was amazing that a person with so much intelligence like the good doctor would belive that a rotten dead carcass would return from the dead…….THAT is truly Amazing for some one who PRiDE themselves as having high levels of INTElligence like the goodly DOC..TRULY AMAZING ..INDEED…
ZOE the BU household is awaiting YOUR response to the QUESTion WHO is GOD…..no sense in hiding..please refrain from quotations that no one can interpret but YOU if only out of respect for the unlearned and unspirtual minds as David indicates agnostics or aethesist might be following the debate…Stop Hiding ZOE…
Jesus is coming to earth again; what if it were today?
Coming in power and love to reign; what if it were today?
Coming to claim His chosen Bride, all the redeemed and purified,
Over this whole earth scattered wide; what if it were today?
Refrain
Glory, glory! Joy to my heart ’twill bring.
Glory, glory! When we shall crown Him King.
Glory, glory! Haste to prepare the way;
Glory, glory! Jesus will come some day.
Satan’s dominion will then be o’er, O that it were today!
Sorrow and sighing shall be no more, O that it were today!
Then shall the dead in Christ arise, caught up to meet Him in the skies,
When shall these glories meet our eyes? What if it were today?
Refrain
Faithful and true would He find us here if He should come today?
Watching in gladness and not in fear, if He should come today?
Signs of His coming multiply; morning light breaks in eastern sky.
Watch, for the time is drawing nigh; what if it were today?
Keep watching GP at least it would give u something to do and keep u from being bored……
Was PAUL doing the WILL of GOD when he broke away from the traditions reinventing a now acceptable main stream theology.. Did CHrist Not clarify his positions on LAW whe questioned stating He did not come to CHANGE THE LAW but sinners to repentance. and is this new and accepatable line of theology which has allowed breaking some of the laws of the ten commandemts in agreement with GODS laws which he handed down to MOSES .
Off comment: beware Barbados
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/too-many-deaths-in-paradise-jamaica-is-awash-with-police-shootings-and-has-brought-in-a-british-commissioner-to-investigate-9089068.html
Okay now!
Above all be careful what you think because your thoughts control your life
@dehood
I don’t have to lie on this blog as we are anonymous, except mr.. franklyn. The quote u reproduce is not this bajanyankee u jackass. has it dawned on u someone else is using the moniker. I am not afraid if u, miller,the prodical son or u, but to avoid any confusion I will have another monikee and it shall be yankeebajan u goatsheep
Bush Tea, Zoe, Vincent Haynes, Georgie Porgie, et al.
You should all -as a matter of fact, all readers of Barbados Underground-read my book; available on Amazon.com, YESHUA A.K.A. JESUS THE NAZARENE. It will enlighten you. It should also create some controversy, but this subject needs some enlightenment and logical thinking, instead of Brain washed regurgitation from those who don not THINK logically.
I’m back having recovered from my illness.
Hello Well Well!
Alvin Cummins.
@Alvin
Glad to know you are well. BU will not charge for the free publicity 😄
On Friday, 30 January 2015, Barbados Underground wrote:
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@ Alvin Cummins January 30, 2015 at 4:46 PM
Welcome back A C! Glad to hear you are above.
You have been missed. It’s a pity your boys have been a total disappointment during last year. As predicted, still no cruise ship terminal, still no sugar factory, still no Pierhead marina, still no Four season restart, etc.
Unless your book is going to reveal the fictitiousness of the European Jesus, it would be of little interest; even though it might be just another rollicking good yarn of your Judeo-Christian wild imagination.
stay well hoping to read more of your input again on BU