14 Caribbean states have retained the services of the British law firm Leigh Day tom press reparation claim.
Reports circulating in the international media indicate 12 Caricom countries along with Haiti and Suriname have initiated proceedings to sue three former colonisers, Britain, France and the Netherlands. This is good news for many Blacks in the Caribbean who believe (and justly so) that the heinous practice of slavery must be addressed in a material way. Why should it be addressed? The societies of the mentioned colonisers have benefited from untold wealth which has been acquired as a result of sweat,blood and tears shed our ancestors. It does not matter if slavery was an accepted practice of those times. What matters is that it was a heinous act which has stained history’s page and said page should now reflect those who benefitted most address it!
The region recently appointed Sir Hilary Beckles to head Caricom’s reparations committee. He has not wasted any time lighting a fire under the issue. The committee has secured the services of British law firm Leigh Day whose reputation was enhanced recently when the it won compensation for hundreds of Kenyans arising from the Mau Mau rebellion.
Although there is no official figure given of the repatriations claim a few regional newspapers have suggested £200 billion, the equivalent to the £20 million paid to slave owners in 1834 when slavery was abolished. Prime Minister Ralph Gonzales, the most vocal of regional leaders, stated in a speech to the UN recently that “The awful legacy of these crimes against humanity ought to be repaired for the developmental benefit of our Caribbean societies and all our peoples.”
Although BU agrees with the move to exact reparations there is uncertainty about the approach. We are however hopeful our concerns can be explained.
If Caricom governments are suing for damages over the slavery of our ancestors, should it not be a class action brought by the descendants of the slaves themselves?
If the governments are doing it on behalf of the descendants, and they secure £200 billion damages, will the payment be made to the descendants of the slaves? BU is very interested (and we are getting ahead of ourselves) how any settlement would be distributed. We surely do not want regional politicians to have sole authority on its allocation.
Finally, Sir Hilary who is one of our decorated historians has confirmed many times that our slave ancestors were sold into slavery by their own people in Africa. Does Caricom intend to extend the scope of defendants of the action to include the African states?
Let us get this right!
@KIKI
The real problem today is NOT WHITE Cunts alone. It is Chinese CREAMY/ YELLOW Cunts and the BLACK Cunt Leaders in Africa who are in the process of RAPING MOTHER AFRICA!
Always be sure to identify ALL of your enemies correctly!
Do you guys really think the Chinese give a RODENTS RECTUM for Black people or Africa? The exceptions are the individual Chinese guys suffering from a dearth of females in China who are going to Africa and taking wives from there. Seems like a sexual mismatch BUT dat in ma busness!
yeah but the jews fight was internationally fought. making their case seems more relevant and easier to understand… however the blacks case have fallen on death ears around the world …even by those who supported the jews in their efforts for reparations , a look back at history and time might be all blacks might received with an occasional apology by the beneficiaries when shamed and embarrassed into doing so
Bahamared if Japanese are not complaining why did Canada and USA pay them for internment, It all depends who is listening to you To all who have benefited from foreign aid for generations. The well is dry move on
Amused | October 13, 2013 at 7:15 AM |
@Well Well. | October 12, 2013 at 4:28 PM | “……now excuse me but i do not feel you will be happy if i sued you and then tried to borrow money from you……”
Yes I would lend you money on proper security and with adequate interest. Cut off my nose to spite my face? I don’t think so.
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Amused………..i believe that is exactly what they did in England, from what i heard Sinckler and his entourage left England without a penny.
@Ping Pong
Caricom is getting there…
CARICOM concerned about political crisis in Turks and Caicos 2013-10-13 12:12:20 | (0 Comments)
UNITED NATIONS, Oct. 13, CMC – The Caribbean Community (CARICOM) has reiterated its deep concern about the political crisis in the Turks and Caicos Islands.
Speaking on behalf of CARICOM, Trinidad and Tobago’s Ambassador to the United Nations, Rodney Charles, told the UN’s Fourth Committee (Special Political and Decolonization) annual debate that the political crisis, precipitated by the three-year suspension of elected governments in the Turks and Caicos Islands in 2009, has been the subject of “particular concern at the highest political level of CARICOM.
“A fact-finding mission sent to the Islands has found that the conduct of a referendum was vital,” he said.
“The report of the fact-finding mission has affirmed that it was the responsibility of the administering Power to provide the means for full self-determination and to ensure that the same standards of democracy that prevail in the United Kingdom should be extended to the Territory,” he added.
Charles noted that the Committee heard petitioners every year about democratic deficiencies in the remaining Non-Self-Governing Territories, adding that the resumption of formal cooperation between the administering Powers and the Fourth Committee was “crucial to achieving the goal of decolonization.”
Concerning the situation in the Western Sahara, the Trinidad and Tobago diplomat said CARICOM maintains its principal support for the people and commended the efforts undertaken by the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon’s envoy.
He said decades of colonization point to “irrefutable lessons,” urging the United Nations to “refine approaches and facilitate supportive mechanisms to minimize the legacies of colonialism, such as ethnic tensions and economic exploitation.
“Adequate follow-up by the United Nations is necessary, as are more interactive dialogue and requisite political analysis,” he said.
Charles said CARICOM has long maintained that a Special Rapporteur or Independent Expert on decolonization “would be most useful.”
Meanwhile, speaking on behalf of the Union of South American Nations (UNASUR) Kitty Swebb, Suriname’s ambassador to the UN, said the issue of decolonization is an “important priority, as colonialism violates the fundamental tenets of democracy and freedom, as stated in General Assembly resolution 1514.”
She said the question of the Malvinas Islands, or Falkland Islands, has been considered by South American countries in several forums of special importance.
She also reiterated the region’s “abiding interest” in an agreement by the United Kingdom to resume negotiations with Argentina “in order to find, as soon as possible, a peaceful and definitive solution to the sovereignty dispute, in accordance with relevant resolutions and declarations of the United Nations and the Organization of American States.”
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Bahama……your point is taken.
Moneybrain…….again, the weakness of the Caribbean leaders is highlighted, they should have sued Europe when they were rolling in the dough anywhere from 30-40 years ago, instead the Caribbean leaders wasted many decades and spent time trying to one up and upstage each other, wasted time, the Europeans who still think ahead knew what was coming and worked accordingly, i wish the Caribbean all the best, the leaders remain the weakest link.
MoneyBrain | October 13, 2013 at 2:48 PM |
@KIKI
The real problem today is NOT WHITE Cunts alone. It is Chinese CREAMY/ YELLOW Cunts and the BLACK Cunt Leaders in Africa who are in the process of RAPING MOTHER AFRICA!
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Moneybrain…..take a deep breath, Africa belongs to black Africans, they are the ones should be raping it, not the Chinese, Indians, and definitely not the Europeans AGAIN, let the Black Africans rape what belongs to them…
“The real problem today is NOT WHITE Cunts alone. It is Chinese CREAMY/ YELLOW Cunts and the BLACK Cunt Leaders in Africa who are in the process of RAPING MOTHER AFRICA!”
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Chinese are doing Business, taking long term investment risks
Developing Africa
http://www.chinaafricarealstory.com/
I have to agree with KiKi, regardless of the ulterior motives of the Chinese, we have not heard about them raping, stealing, kidnapping or filling ships with Africans bound for China or the Americas to experience brainwash, torture, brutal murders, lynchings, slavery or every evil act known to man, the worst we heard is that some rogue Chinese were arrested for stealing minerals, so again, leave the Africans to go about their business, it is their wealth…….sounding like sour grapes to me but those who are crying must realize that Europe benefited for hundreds of years from the exploits of their ancestors and what did they do……pretend they were/are superior to other humans on earth, particularly Africans, so, it’s now time for Africans to enjoy their wealth in peace.
@KIKI
Chinese taking a long term approach, investing…….
YES! When the Africans decide to push them out, what do you think will happen???
HINT
The Chinese are currently in a big fight with several neighbouring countries over a few lil Islands that they want to claim because they have some Energy resources. So what you think they will do after investing hundreds of $Billions in Africa??? PLEEEEZ! Swapping one exploiter for a next!
The African or Cbean “Leaders” are going to worry about the Peeps???
When is that scheduled to begin???
The Europeans will care so much for the black peeps, what do you think they will do?? bomb a billion Chinese, everyone is self-serving, again, the Europeans had their days of raping Africa, time for them to stay back………if they are broke, they have no one to blame but themselves, or better yet, why don’t they try raping China, now that should be interesting.
Slavery, the African slave trade and it’s aftermath will haunt Europe for many centuries to come.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/slavery-scars-article-1.1483980
“The Chinese are currently in a big fight with several neighbouring countries over a few lil Islands that they want to claim because they have some Energy resources”
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Philippines has Jetoleum new type of fuel on Palawan Islands sea bed off Philippines which China and America wants and Yamamoto’s gold hidden away, they also have private militia to deal with, that’s all I can say about the Gold (Yanks are spying)
@Amused
How can you have reparations for individuals alive today that did NOT suffer through the terrible period of Slavery? Seems that it could be very difficult to decide how much a mixed person receives (and pays).
Would it not be better to agree on vastly improved Educational/ Health Services in the Cbean/ US etc for example.
Would it not be a concern how the money was wasted rather than using it for a firm base to launch a better future far all in the Black Community?
@KIKI
Bad News—The Chinese sold their own daughters into Slavery. Are they likely to really care about long term investing in Africa over black peeps, which will they choose first when trouble starts?
Remember one thing, the Chinese population is 1,300,000,000,000+ once they become rooted in Africa who is going to move them out???
“How can you have reparations for individuals alive today that did NOT suffer through the terrible period of Slavery? Seems that it could be very difficult to decide how much a mixed person receives (and pays).”
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DNA tests can identify mixed roots
(rape cases should receive double bubble)
“Remember one thing, the Chinese population is 1,300,000,000,000+ once they become rooted in Africa who is going to move them out???”
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You sound like you don’t like Chinese
Blacks don’t hate Chinese, Chinese don’t hate Blacks
Keep the Racist Divide and Rule mindset with the whites who invented it
how to deal with people you don’t want to talk to
silence is more powerful than a scream
their words are coming back to them so they get an echo
the power of silence they get to hear their own words which may or may not make sense
once you give silence you are not giving them food to continue the conversation
David
Haiti and Guyana are part of CARICOM. The Turks and Caicos is NOT. The people of Turks and Caicos do not want to become independent or to be part of CARICOM. There is even talk of the Turks and Caicos becoming part of Canada. Anyway since the target in the Turks and Caicos issue is the UK, this plays out well in those that are fighting the wicked white man and striking a blow for Black liberation yadda yadda etc. However in the Haiti and Guyana issues the opponents are the Dominican Republic and Venezuela and these do not fit in the mold of the usual suspects!
1.3 billion Chinese…………..that is a number that the 9% European Whites on the earth still cannot wrap their heads around, there is no way they will try to go up against the Chinese to rape Africa once again. Bear in mind Africa is also well on it’s way to also having 1 billion Africans on it’s continent, i do believe they are over 800,000,000………..the numbers are now staggering.
Just the remnants of the brainwashing and programming of the black race, the effects of which i am sure will last for centuries to come is enough to guarantee that reparations are due for centuries to come….
It’s not the colour (or lack of) that determines guilt
It’s crimes committed
its not individuals that committed crimes it was Governments of Countries Empire Building
spoils were massive
starving in poverty to wealth
stealing resources
trading in misery
loving the power trip
forcing subservience
mass killing
Kiki | October 13, 2013 at 6:13 PM |
“How can you have reparations for individuals alive today that did NOT suffer through the terrible period of Slavery? Seems that it could be very difficult to decide how much a mixed person receives (and pays).”
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DNA tests can identify mixed roots
(rape cases should receive double bubble)
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Two questions … how does the DNA of a person today determine whether or not his/her ancestor(s) was (were) raped?
.. and …. since we all hail from Africa if we look far enough back can DNA testing say when the mixing occurred?
Rather than split hairs looking for evil, why not embrace the good that came out of the slavery experience.
That good is the abolition of any legal foundation for the institution of slavery and the change wrought in Man’s heart.
I think perhaps it is time our Government’s and us spent some glorifying God’s works accomplished through our ancestors.
What have we got to lose?
If the Bible is right, we will benefit in the long run.
If it isn’t we will at least save having to pay a bunch of lawyers a bunch of money in the belief that they will be able to convince a court how obeying the law as it existed back then is reason to grant reparations.
If we can walk about deluding ourselves into having faith in these lawyers, …. who we have to pay, surely we can adopt a little faith in the Bible.
It is free!!
“how does the DNA of a person today determine whether or not his/her ancestor(s) was (were) raped?”
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if slave master fathered a number of children with several slaves patterns of relations / rape can be identified and family histories can be inferred backwards
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“since we all hail from Africa if we look far enough back can DNA testing say when the mixing occurred?”
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From the DNA testing, we can also take a much wider view of our ancestry. There is now clear evidence that all humans descend from an original “Adam” who lived in East Africa over 100,000 years ago. As Adam’s descendants migrated away from this origin, their haplotypes changed slightly. These changes have been used to group populations into haplogroups, groups of people with similar haplotypes. The following map shows how haplogroups have formed and split into subgroups as humans migrated further and further away from their origin in Africa
http://www.mitchelmore.info/join/dna-results.htm
@KIKI
I hate the Chinese so much that I AM MARRIED to one!
KIKI it seems that since I am married into that race and have lived in the Far East and with Orientals of all types in the UK and Canada for the vast majority of my life I can GUARANTEE you that the Chinese ARE probably FAR MORE racial today than whites!!! Here in Canada they are loads of Black and White marriages and relationships!
I have experienced blatant racism from Chinese and indeed from my wife’s parents. The difference between me and others is I am very confident who I am, so prejudice is mainly a problem for others as I dont need stupid people influencing or validating my life.
I am just trying to WARN my Black friends that they may think that the Chinese are in a LOVE Fest BUT it is NOT so! I referred to Chinese guys marrying black African ladies, if you doubt me about their heavy racial prejudice you should checkout the Chinese Blogs where they berate marrying black peeps! It is not pretty!
It is easy to assume that I mean ill!
@WW
No sour grapes from me! I blame the US/ West for being dumb enough to accept the Chinese into the WTO without insisting on Chinese currency floating, Patent Protection, Labour conditions etc etc. Those whiteys are REALLY ARROGANT STUPID!
There are loads of Chinese Projects in Africa where the local peeps are totally being bypassed, except the “Leaders” of course who are cleaning up the blendser/ vacuuming the $$$$$$ FOR THEMSELVES. The poor Africans are NOT getting work and the Chinese even bring their own Soldiers for protection. That is ok because it is NOT Whitey right????
Looks like I CARE MORE about the Africans than unna!
Kiki | October 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM |
“how does the DNA of a person today determine whether or not his/her ancestor(s) was (were) raped?”
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if slave master fathered a number of children with several slaves patterns of relations / rape can be identified and family histories can be inferred backwards
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In the days when illegitimate was a word used to describe offspring I discovered that the illegitimacy rate in Barbados was 70%!!!!
You are not describing rape you are describing normal sexual relations in Barbados as they have persisted for generations!!
I have an ancestor who fathered a child with a slave, appears to have manumitted her and the child, and then fathered nine children with the same woman!!! Was only the first one rape or do the other nine count?
This particular ancestor was so “evil, wicked and depraved (ha ha ha!!))” that when he died in 1839, he deliberately left the woman, my great, great, great grand mother and her ten children two plantations, ….. more than 400 acres!!!!!
… and there were other wicked slave owners who likewise left their plantations to their offspring, …… formerly slaves!!
Seems that was a way these former slave owners used to humiliate and belittle their slave offspring.
With regards to Haplogroup, now dat is a big able word, ….. man …. you lost me!!
Don’t waste your time splitting hairs looking for evil, … look for the good!!
MB
Presumably your wife has crossed the tracks and is not racial biased either
1 of 1, maybe others can be similar to her
Chinese guys marrying black African ladies could be for love or money
Blogs have extreme views what people would like to say but don’t in public presumably you don’t tell your in-laws chinese are racist and they are too directly to their face. People always yak at cross purposes on blogs too.
You proved a point about chinky blacks / chinky whites
and people they know talking bad about them
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I was making point slavery was like holocaust, perpetrated for hundreds of years
(longer than WW2 1935-1945).
Europeans stepped in to protect white Jews being treated like Africans
(colonialisation in Africa was still rife)
http://news.yahoo.com/lost-kings-dna-fails-illuminate-royal-mystery-161837184.html
John
Slaves descendants can prove inheritance rights from illegitimate relationships in cases of fathers being “bastards” to bastard children
You asked the question, how can DNA prove rape, and you got an example
the halpo thing is DNA terminology related to the same question you asked
Your anecdote doesn’t prove much, Slave offspring are fathers children.
slave woman can be gold diggers suffering stockholm syndrome out of africa
Slaves were expensive commodities, status symbols, means to have successful business, feel mighty and powerful, enjoying life with people cleaning cooking and working for you.
Negro Woman were attractive property to take when you felt urge and were a rite of manhood.
The good described is trickle down guilt for full dues denied.
barbados society, industry and early history was all due to legacy of slavery
MoneyBrain | October 13, 2013 at 9:49 PM |
@WW
No sour grapes from me! I blame the US/ West for being dumb enough to accept the Chinese into the WTO without insisting on Chinese currency floating, Patent Protection, Labour conditions etc etc. Those whiteys are REALLY ARROGANT STUPID!
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Money…………you have to agree that the Europeans were once again up to their old tricks of getting cheap/slavery labor to enrich themselves using the Chinese this time, they however discounted the fact that the Chinese were smart enough to build on the European’s arrogance and consummate greed…..now the Chinese own all their bonds/treasury bills/gold and Europe/North America owes China trillions of dollars, there is a new super power in town, the Chinese, the Africans will learn from this and build on it, there is a new breed of Africans in town.
The Caribbean is decades behind and will now have to learn that the only people who should be determining and/or dictating their future and realize that they are the only ones who will know what is best for them and their descendants going forward for thousands of years, ………..the European/North American establishment is in financial trouble and leaking money by the trillions, the likes of have not been seen in centuries, black Caribbean leaders need to get their asses in gear and stop playing the role of dumb sheep. The party is long over for Europe and North America.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2458323/Slash-benefits-EU-migrants-PM-urged-act-job-hit-600-000.html
Money said:
“There are loads of Chinese Projects in Africa where the local peeps are totally being bypassed, except the “Leaders” of course who are cleaning up the blendser/ vacuuming the $$$$$$ FOR THEMSELVES. The poor Africans are NOT getting work and the Chinese even bring their own Soldiers for protection. That is ok because it is NOT Whitey right????
Looks like I CARE MORE about the Africans than unna!”
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Money……..the whites did/do the same damn thing everywhere and in every country, did you ever warn your black friends about them? Blacks were murdered for trying to marry into the white race once upon a time, all the Chinese do is talk shit, they are free to talk shit……….i gotta tell you the African blacks of today are nothing like their ancestors, so sit back and watch, Africans know know that they are responsible for their own future and no whites or chinese can pretend to know what is best for them. A white businessman went into Africa some months ago, as soon as he landed at the airport he was beheaded……….different breed of African, so the Chinese many not get away with games indefinitely.
What you should be more concerned about since you care so much about the blacks (hope it’s not only the Africans) is your own brothers and sisters in Barbados the majority of whom are black, you were raised with them although bajan white, so you would do better to warn them of what, whitey, chiney, indiany and everyone else who consider themselves superior to black people are capable of, the evil and hatred that resides in their heart for the black people in Barbados and the Caribbean, then you would have done your civic duty and good deed for the day.
@Smooth Chocolate | October 12, 2013 at 7:02 PM |
you are on the ball..color was not the defining factor during those days. not only that the blacks also kept slaves but it was nothing like plantation slavery. they were like members of an extended family, so when the whites came to buy slaves, up to then no one ever expected that it was lead to the barbaric behavior exhibited by their captors. up until then plantation slavery had never existed
“Jeff Cumberbatch | October 12, 2013 at 7:35 PM |
…. if slavery was legal at the relevant time, on what is the claim for reparations based? Note that the treatment of the Mau Mau warriors was not legal.”
WHAT ABOUT THE JEWS? The holocaust lasted from 1933-45. It was legal in Germany was it not? Yet after the holocaust there was a Reparations Agreement which was signed between Israel and West Germany in September 1952. Was this not due to the fact that altho it was legal to enslave the Jew in Germany, other parts of the world knew it was wrong and went all out to deliver them? The same with the slaves living in plantation slavery until the 19th century. Yet after nearly 400 years the blacks have not been compensated for the wrong done to them. And here you are, a black probably and talking such rubbish, THINK FOR YOURSELF…you are an adult
@Pinkie
In defense of Jeff, you have totally misunderstood my learned friend and Legal Eagle. He is opining from the perspective of a brilliant Lawyer NOT with the emotion of most black peeps. He has detached himself in order to explain possible defenses to certain legal approaches, thereby helping to develop the best strategy that could lead to victory.
Now you have neglected this alternative and are running to be divisive and probably fairly soon would anoint him as an Uncle Tom. Nothing could be further from the reality of this fine Gent. Indeed, he is the calibre of intellect you require at the vanguard of this battle.
@KIKI
The critical point is that conveniently deluding black peeps, Africans and or yourself to believe that as you contended, there is no racism between Blacks/ Africans and Chinese. It is a dangerous assumption that actually has NO BASIS in REALITY.
The Chinese (in China) and Japanese have had little exposure to other races and are very racially minded eg Japanese Authorities have known for 40yrs+ that because of Demographics they would have far too great a proportion of Retired people during this period and that they should encourage Immigration from other countries BUT they have steadfastly maintained a very strict anti-immigrant policy because they prefer to FAIL ignominiously than permit sacrilege to their homogeneous society. Does it get more racist than that?
Regarding my wife’s racial tendencies, I would suggest that I am far more accepting of other races, cultures, opinions etc than she by a serious distance. Please note that I have closely associated with darker peeps from the age of 4. This has lead to a far more open mind than those who would have had limited / no exposure to other races until adulthood.
Money………….it would be interesting to get your perspective on the fact that whites have been exposed to blacks re the slave trade for hundreds of years (black females were even forced to raise and breast feed white babies) but whites still find it necessary to display raw and rabid racism to black people, it has gone way past the sorry and tired excuse of self-preservation……….it is ok to say the Chinese are insular, they too have their story, but what excuse can be attributed to white folk (i am not saying all mind you cause i know some who are equally sick and tired of seeing whites practice ad nauseam racism against blacks and others).
Racism is no longer profitable for whites, their asses are broke and in a quandary, their empire is dismantling itself, (we should all be thanking the divine for that)…….what is their excuse for hating other human beings, particularly black people??
@WW
The American primarily (and maybe European) Politicians are NOT interested in anything else BUT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for their election campaigns. Therefore, if the rich want to exploit cheap Labour in China they condone such and in so doing gifted 9-10 million American jobs to China. These Pols are confident that the American workers are too dumb to see the connection and many will be happy to have access to cheap imported goodies for their shamelessly greedy consumption. SICK BASTARDS ALL!
The price has been and will be enormous!
Regarding Black Cbean Leaders, where are the true statesmanlike Leaders? These Pols are the same or worse than their friends on both sides of the Atlantic! However, be assured that any other emissaries from Nations to the East or West bearing Gold, $$$ and such shall be warmly welcomed BUT will the bounty trickle down to the peeps?
WW, while I am growing older I must not forget to point out that I was NOT extant hundreds of years ago to warn my black friends about the impending, wicked slave trade. The black “Leaders” that benefited then would, like now, not have conducted themselves any differently in selling criminals, prisoners of War etc. Never forget to FOLLOW the $$$$$$$$!
WW, there are several extremely clever African “Leaders”, but how many are providing for their populace?
Money said:
“Regarding Black Cbean Leaders, where are the true statesmanlike Leaders? These Pols are the same or worse than their friends on both sides of the Atlantic! However, be assured that any other emissaries from Nations to the East or West bearing Gold, $$$ and such shall be warmly welcomed BUT will the bounty trickle down to the peeps?”
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No argument from me there……….
On the other issues, though there are serious……….>LOL!!
“there is no racism between Blacks/ Africans and Chinese. It is a dangerous assumption that actually has NO BASIS in REALITY”
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Chinese youths are beginning to listen to rap reggae ragga musical gifts from black ghetto youths to the world and are walking and talking like them and trying to dance, DJ’s have been playing the music and they now do chinese cover versions
China is not bad guys as propagated by the devil
US is
UK is sucking up to China acting humble for business
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/14/david-cameron-dalai-lama-george-osborne
Pinkie | October 14, 2013 at 8:53 AM |
WHAT ABOUT THE JEWS? The holocaust lasted from 1933-45. It was legal in Germany was it not? Yet after the holocaust there was a Reparations Agreement which was signed between Israel and West Germany in September 1952.
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Absolute joke!!
I don’t believe premeditated mass murder was ever legal in Germany.
Watch WWII footage about the discovery of death camps and you will realize it was a secret kept even from the German people.
The perpetrators knew it was wrong, … and also illegal too.
That’s why many went into hiding. Their shame was exposed.
…. but let’s stay with the holocaust for a moment and the reparations paid to victims by the German State.
Do you notice the difference …. the victims were alive!!
… and what happens when the last Nazi is gone.
Just google what happens when the last Nazi is gone and see what you find as the answer.
There is no way the reparations paid to the victims of the holocaust immediately after the war can be used to justify reparations for slavery almost 200 years after its abolition …. totally ridiculous logic.
Uncle Ralf’s lot would be idiots to use this example.
They would be laughed out of court.
They are chasing duppies!!
If they proceed as is described herein I would have to officially ask that my name be specifically removed from whatever lawsuit they may bring on behalf of the peoples of the Caribbean.
Utter rubbish with which I cannot identify and I am a direct descendant of slaves in Barbados.
I repeat, look for the good and use it to glorify God’s name and his works.
Barbados has a special place in that story which our historians seem incapable of telling.
That is why I believe the name Wilberforce is not present on the Barbados landscape after slavery except for the naming of a few slaves.
The most I have been able to find in Barbados is The Buxton School in Green Hill.
But the names of the men and women and their beliefs can be found all over Barbados.
It is surprising the Historians have not figured it out yet!!
The whole of Barbados is a World Heritage site.
@WW
White racists are very insular and dislike all races besides whites BUT typically hate white Jews, even Catholics if their group are not such, whites like me who are friendly or married to other races etc. They love to HATE!
Some just consider themselves Superior but not just racially—-class, educationally and many other variables that they believe justifies their view,
WW, whites alive today have had absolutely no personal exposure to the Slave Trade. They might have watched Roots or some other account.
Many white people in Nth America and Europe hardly ever interact with/ meet other races unless they are in certain urban settings. In Nth AM such people are likely to form a view based on the TV News which may have negative tinge because of crime or positive aspect because of darker actors like Will Smith, Morgan Freeman, Denzil Washington et al.
I was a tad surprised at an elderly white Plantocrat Bajan lady who told me how much she enjoyed Will Smith on Fresh Prince,I did’nt think she would watch him or express her approval openly.
@KIKI
It is always the youth that act to bridge sociological gaps. This may bode well for the distant future BUT commonsense dictates that the current leadership are keen to enrich themselves (and maybe their people) first and foremost and there are a gargantuan quantity of them 1,300,000,000+. Africans and Africa are only relevant as a resource local.
Moral and Legal Case needs to be lodged in Court for the record, (and Published on Internet and In a Book)
If Case gets struck out, it needs to be appealed against and taken to High Court, Supreme Court.
Legal record of immoral repugnant behaviour will be placed as evidence to rectify whitewash and slave apologists
Freemasons run Courts but have to look at charges made.
Time will decide in History Law Books of UK covering misdeeds and crimes
http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2013/08/16/reparations-for-slavery-can-a-claim-be-sustained/
“It is always the youth that act to bridge sociological gaps. This may bode well for the distant future BUT commonsense dictates that the current leadership are keen to enrich themselves (and maybe their people) first and foremost and there are a gargantuan quantity of them 1,300,000,000+. Africans and Africa are only relevant as a resource local”
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Young Adults are moving abroad working settling in communities without prejudice already
why want reparations, you have owned the island for years now …sell it… divide the money amongst who you deem entitled, Whats it worth ? You got it for free. Maybe china could buy it. Mel Gibson, johnny depp, richard branscomb, own one larry Ellison has a Hawaiian island with 3500 inhabitants, the list goes on. Trinidad or guyanna may be looking for a summer home or a penal colony..
@KIKI
Agreed, young people of every race tend to be like that.
It does NOT change the validity of any of my warnings. Although it is a step in the right direction.
lawson | October 14, 2013 at 1:42 PM |
why want reparations, you have owned the island for years now …sell it… divide the money amongst who you deem entitled,
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Done already and money spent!!
More is now required.
Money…………….total idiocy still prevails, mankind will never learn.
In an update today re the US shutdown, the Chinese stated and i quote “because of the pernicious state of the US shutdown, the world needs to become de-americanized and a new centralized currency introduced.” They currently hold 3.5 trillion dollars of America’s debt, talk about calling the shots. I hope the leaders in the Caribbean understand the ramifications of such utterings.
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