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Adrian Loveridge - Owner of Peach & Quiet Hotel
Adrian Loveridge – Owner of Peach & Quiet Hotel

Itโ€™s always very difficult to write about LIAT with absolute authority, because despite the Barbadian taxpayer being the single largest shareholder in the airline, the public for years has been denied sight of any business plan or annual audited accounts. During the recent spat with a clearly dissatisfied customer, the involvement of Sir Richard Branson and the worldwide attention this generated, LIAT fought back by posting two videos on their website, which have been subsequently removed. Perhaps on reflection, it was thought that it was more productive to address the issues, ie: the complaints, rather than battle with someone that has indefatigably demonstrated they are masters of media exploitation.

What really surprised me in one of the videos, were the numbers quoted by the Director โ€“ Commercial and Customer Experience, who stated that the airline operated โ€˜approximately 100 flights each dayโ€™ and carried around โ€˜3,000 passengers dailyโ€™. According to Planespotters, LIAT currently has a fleet of 14 active passenger aircraft with various seating capacities from 37 to 68, but collectively totalling 685. So what immediately stands out is, if the overall numbers are correct, then the average sector flight carries only 30 passengers. That equates to what could be up to 19 empty seats on each flight overall, across the fleet.

Therefore, it is logical to conclude that unless LIAT entices considerably more passengers in the immediate future, and/or changes to potentially higher capacity point-to-point routes, that number of empty seats will rise. At least until all of the ATR72-600, 68 seater and the smaller ATR42-600โ€™s with 48 seats are fully integrated into service and the Dash 8โ€™s are retired.

LIATโ€™s chairman recently commented that there must be more tour operator involvement to โ€˜packageโ€™ flights and accommodation. Even though this has happened in the past with trans-Caribbean travel organisations like Going Places, I fully support his call. But LIAT must sit down with with the operators to identify routes, times and days of the week, where there is excess capacity and some room for ticket price reduction. Even if this is revenue restricted to ten seats per flight. I still believe this is an enormous untapped market, not just from the indigenous regional population, but also as an add-on for our overseas visitors, this despite of increasingly deterrent taxes applied by Caribbean Governments.

By putting the component parts, flights, accommodation etc., into a one price package, it helps break down the perception that the product is overly expensive. US$150 a day including flights and hotel, sounds better than $1,000 for a week. With Barbados taking the biggest risk in LIAT, our Government could take a critical lead in stimulating additional business for the airline, by removing VAT on the airfare element, at least in the softer summer months. Some of the โ€˜lostโ€™ taxes could be re-couped by levying VAT on cruises originating in Barbados, which currently avoid any significant taxation. And the residue will be generated by the additional VAT collected on increased accommodation occupancy, car hire, restaurant dining, shopping etc.

For statistical purposes โ€˜weโ€™ measure Caribbean arrivals as โ€˜Trinidad and Tobagoโ€™ and โ€˜other Caricomโ€™ and it is the third largest market in terms of all our main sources. Regional visitor arrivals fell by 4,487 in 2012, when compared with 2011. So far this year (January-May), it has witnessed the single biggest percentage decline with 6,359 less visitors, or a staggering 240 per cent fall.

Relate that to average stay and spend and you start to get a grasp of the fact, that we are not addressing the problem.


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91 responses to “Main Shareholder LIAT Needs to Address the Issue of Increasing Airlift Fast!”


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  2. TimeLongerThanTwine Avatar
    TimeLongerThanTwine

    “During the recent spat with a clearly dissatisfied customer, the involvement of Sir Richard Branson and the worldwide attention this generated, LIAT fought back by posting two videos on their website, which have been subsequently removed. Perhaps on reflection, it was thought that it was more productive to address the issues, ie: the complaints, rather than battle with someone that has indefatigably demonstrated they are masters of media exploitation.”

    To even suggest that LIAT management had any reflection is really pushing it. The video in question was not only a disgrace in every artistic form but that it would have even been considered fit for human consumption shows the ineptitude that Caribbean people have faced all these years with this airline. The whole try at making a mockery of a man who worldwide has the best reputation in the airline business, who used LIAT for his ongoing passengers to their destinations (he should now buy a small plane and forget LIAT) and is therefore one of their large clients, was pathetic and downright rude. Bad enough that LIAT even had the gall to think that they are so huge, so big, so respected, so high-end that they could even consider to call Sir Richard Branson by his first name was a disgrace, challenging him to a ‘duel’ that if he lost he would have to lick the tail-end of LIAT using one of his own small jokes on himself (dressed in drag as a flight attendant) but using the words “we know you like it” so low and a disgrace to all Caribbean nations, its people reeling in shame. To have, through the first video, Leesa Parris in her capacity as whatever talking about the wonder of LIAT and all the good they do was stretching it – the best part being that LIAT found time to do this bit of patting themselves on their backs really fast admitting they were NOW beginning to look into the problems of the particular passenger. What? In case someone in the offices of LIAT is reading BU, this should have been a done deal before you sat yourself big and bold and opened your mouth Leesa. This letter had already made the rounds of the world before you all realized it was time to “look into it”???? And then all those lies. We know advertising carries with it a lot of these, but that whole video reeked of stretching the truth to limits that we should all be bowing our heads in shame over. Best airline in the Caribbean my arse.

    Reflection? LIAT reflect on anything? Not one bit of it. Would not even know how that is done. LIAT only took all that crap down because people on social and other media saw it as all of the above, commenting and laughing at LIAT who already is seen as a waste of time by Caribbean and international people, openly crying SHAME. Lucky LIAT has not had a defamation of character suit placed on each and every head that had anything to do with that piece of s*#t as well as the airline itself!!! Well so far at least. I know that we as Caribbean people could do it and perhaps should. Defaming us under their banner can also constitute a court case surely.

    What is most insensitive and shows the real lack of respect to those whose taxpayer monies keep LIAT in the air is the fact that heads have not rolled over this. Again, the talk is that LIAT’s top management, inefficient as they are, are there solely because of who they know and not the qualifications required to run an airline properly – big salaries and big perks accompanying them too. Here was (and still is) an opportunity to show the door to the lot of them and put people in there who have earned their positions because they are fully qualified, and if our people are not, then bring in who can. The nepotism and constant incest we have perfected as small nations must stop, and perhaps the time is now.

  3. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS

    We want our RED JET


  4. It is obvious that LIAT’s huge debt has created a serious drag much like the countries who are shareholders. There is no doubt we need LIAT for those who need to get around the islands whether for work or play. BU’s concern remain, why are the shareholders of LIAT limited to four countries but is appears obligatory it services about 21 destinations. How long can this airline, one has to say, continue under this arrangement?


  5. Branson would not waste his time and energy suing a disgrace like liat, what they need to do is put their tails between their legs and ask him for some advice, i am sure he would be more than willing to comply…….the caribbean needs to get rid of their incestuous and nepotistic arrangements if they want to forge ahead in any sector.


  6. Will Venezuela Invest in LIAT?
    July 18, 2013 | 5:02 pm | Print


    Above: a LIAT plane
    By the Caribbean Journal staff
    Venezuela has expressed an interest in investing in regional air carrier LIAT, according to Dominica Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit.
    The Prime Minister revealed the interest during a press conference this week to announce that Dominica would be making another financial contribution to the Caribbean carrier.
    โ€œI believe it is an absolutely good move if we were to get Venezuela to invest in LIAT to provide LIAT with the much needed financial and technical support that it requires. It could also mean additional business for LIAT,โ€ Skerrit said. โ€œIf we could get Conviasa to service flights from Brazil and from Venezuela and all the Latin and South American countries and transport them to a hub in the Caribbean and then take them to their respective destinations within the Caribbean then it means additional business for LIAT.โ€
    The revelation comes a few months after PetroCaribe member states discussed the possibility of enhancing air service in the region, according to Venezuelan Oil Minister Rafael Ramirez.
    โ€œWe are ready to make an alliance of both public and private companies and to establish connectivity in the PetroCaribe zone,โ€ he said in May.
    A LIAT investment could move that idea forward.
    โ€œWe intend to continue these discussions with the government of Venezuela in respect to the draft agreement, MOU, which was sent for consideration,โ€ he said. โ€œThere are some aspects of it which I believe are clear and straight forward but there are other aspects of it which will need further discussions among ourselves as the existing shareholders first and then to raise them with the government of Venezuela.โ€
    LIAT is owned by a group of Caribbean governments, including Grenada as a minor shareholder.
    LIATโ€™s principal shareholders include Barbados, Antigua, St Vincent and the Grenadines and Dominica.
    The latter three are members of Venezuelaโ€™s ALBA Alliance.


  7. We need to stop beating up on LIAT and put some ideas on the table about a viable business plan. We need LIAT.

    Is there an airline in the world which is happily making money at the moment?

  8. TimeLongerThanTwine Avatar
    TimeLongerThanTwine

    LIAT should not continue under such a foolish arrangement. I see no reason why LIAT should not be offered up to a REDJET-type of airline business. When a company is showing no profit and shareholders are not receiving anything for their investment but bad management, then the obvious thing to do is to sell same or go into receivership and let the receivers handle the take over from the highest bidder. And I did not say Caribbean receivership ’cause somebody’s tanty might get the deal for $1 although at this point ‘tanty’ might do a better job.

    Maybe Sir Richard Branson would be the best man, who knows? Now there’s a *light bulb* thought.

    One thing my silly brain doth know and that is that Caribbean integration and success (YES! THAT WORD CARICOM COMES TO MIND) is based on LIAT (or a LIAT-type operation with inexpensive fares) and they have had enough time to show their true colours and so far it more a blank canvas than a colourful image. Governments of the Caribbean have to understand that an island-hopping putter-clinker airline such as LIAT needs two (duh! rocket scientist at work here) things to make it work: the lowest airport taxes possible and the highest level of management.

  9. TimeLongerThanTwine Avatar
    TimeLongerThanTwine

    and we could ‘rap’ all we want, if we do not stop this airline’s foolishness NOW we run the risk of further deteriorating our Caribbean tourism image.

    http://www.nationnews.com/index.php/articles/view/liat-rapped-over-delays-missing-shades/


  10. LIAT currently serves many islands in the Caribbean which are not profitable which a Redjet (a scam) would flat out refuse to.


  11. BAD MANAGEMENT THE REAL STORY OF LIAT. LIAT needs to get its House in Order from top to Bottom all the money in the world cannot address That PROBLEM.
    It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that LIAT Problems are self made Efficiency stinks underscoring everything that is WRONG with LIAT.
    Even though Gonsalves might have a point in regards to subsidies . the magnitude and combination of the problems are greater than the sum combined,

  12. TimeLongerThanTwine Avatar
    TimeLongerThanTwine

    Venezuela ent a bad idea, think gas money.

    But still. LIAT needs a shakeover. New management. New look. New name. Lowered airport taxes. And brilliant sunshine can reign supreme for Caribbean integration/business/tourism. But it cannot be done later…it got to be done now. Stop all the bullshit meetings, just get on with the job fast.

    Not forgetting at least two cargo planes with cold storage access at the airport for the easy and cheap transportation of products/produce under the CARICOM banner of duty-free.

  13. Adrian Loveridge Avatar
    Adrian Loveridge

    David, the possible investment of Venezuela into LIAT raises a number of questions. If such an investment takes place, would LIAT benefit from lower Jet A1 fuel prices under some sort of ALBA agreement. Trinidad and Tobago could hardly object as they are currently subsidising CAL.
    As I understand Venezuela currently sells Jet A1 at international prices and only domestic airlines get discounted fuel for SELECT domestic flights.


  14. @Adrian

    Any investor will want a business plan which assures that inefficiencies are addressed.

  15. Adrian Loveridge Avatar
    Adrian Loveridge

    David, ‘any investor’ – Does that mean our Government has seen and approved a business plan, ploughed in millions and plan to ‘invest’ more but refuses to inform that taxpayers of what that ‘business plan’ is?


  16. The greedy governments in the Caribbean are taxing LIAT out of business. The need LIAT to bring travellers to their shores but they first priority for LIAT is tax generation and that is killing the airline. The next time you purchase a LIAT ticket check and see how much of the fare goes to the airline: the taxes cost more than the flight.


  17. One fundamental matter that has to be addressed if LIAT is to move forward at all. The headquarters HAS to be removed from Antigua.


  18. David you hit the nail on the head. Investors first check the balance books. Investors listen and check the negative contributing to the publicity of the airline. The most LIAT can expect from Venezuela is cheaper gas ?.. But I would dare say that an airline with so much negativism , Poor management , High debt nobody in their right mind would be willing to put their money in such a investment.
    LIAT showed the world with that PR stunt released recently how poor their management decisions are made LIAT for sure does not understand the turbo dynamics that drives the engine and if a correction is not made immediately would be stranded on the tar mat indefinitely without getting off the ground or hope of making a major impact in the way of doing business that is successful in the way that is appealing to attracting customers and generating revenue,,


  19. Taxes are a reality and in cases like airline the taxes are a combination of a multiple of charges , However it is the business of airlines to find ways around those charges that would not impact the customer and it goes back to its marketing strategy, People would complain if they are not receiving compensation in forms of good service or other marketing ideas that would boost up the psyche of the customer.LIAT has problems way beyond the Taxes ,however LIAT incompetency shines bright and it is a definite turnoff to customers and potential customers and investors.


  20. LIAT has never been run as a business but as a social ministry….


  21. Everybody beating up on LIAT (maybe deservedly so) but was Barbados always the principal shareholder in the entity? If not, when the decision was made why didnโ€™t the powers that be insist on moving the HQ as a condition of its investment?

    He who pays the piper calls the tune – the Trinidadians know that- Bajans seem to be slow learners.


  22. A certain future coalition government of Barbados – of which the PDC will be a part of – shall Abolish All TAXATION in this country.

    TAXATION is criminal mass theft.

    It is evil, wrong, and destructive.

    It is virulently anti-masses, anti-middle classes, anti-production and distribution, and anti-national development any where it is found in this world.

    It is the major cause of this political economic depression that Barbados is experiencing at this juncture.

    PDC


  23. move its headquarters to where………. Inefficiency across the caribbean is epidemic , isn’t it why most or all govts are in financial trouble, The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree;,MOVE IT TO WHERE. any ideas PELTDOWN>>……I didn’t think so..

  24. TimeLongerThanTwine Avatar
    TimeLongerThanTwine

    I was just informed, and how true it is is not know but would not surprise me and I quote: “LIAT’s inflight magazine needs to be looked into. Taken away from a Caribbean publisher that employs Caribbean people in their offices and Caribbean people to do their writings and photography only to be given to a London/African publisher based in England who uses English and other writers that require free-flights, free-accommodation + daily fees + fees for the contribution + fees for the photography all the way from there to the Caribbean.” If this is true: Good thinking again LIAT.


  25. @Adrian

    It is hard to imagine the CDB would advance 65million on the basis of an old business strategy which has shown not to work. Unfortunately our government who spends and commit our taxdollars say nothing to us. This too is a problem.

  26. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac | July 22, 2013 at 7:43 AM |
    “David you hit the nail on the head. Investors first check the balance books. Investors listen and check the negative contributing to the publicity of the airline. The most LIAT can expect from Venezuela is cheaper gas ?.. But I would dare say that an airline with so much negativism , Poor management , High debt nobody in their right mind would be willing to put their money in such a investment.”

    So why is the current Barbados government committing the Bajan taxpayers to the continuance of such gross mismanagement and wastage of the countryโ€™s dwindling financial resources and compounding the national debt problem with no possible returns to show?
    Why not insist of major structural reforms to LIAT as part of Barbados’ underwriting this massive additional debt?

    But what can we expect from an administration that oversaw the Four Seasons fiasco?
    How can Bajan shareholders aka taxpayers insist on holding LIAT to high standards of financial management and reporting when we continuously turn a blind eye to a similar โ€œdo-as-you-likeโ€ situation with our crucially important NIS funds that might just end up underwriting the LIAT investment?
    Isnโ€™t this a translucently white classic case of the pot calling the kettle black?

  27. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    Caswell Franklyn | July 22, 2013 at 7:23 AM |
    The greedy governments in the Caribbean are taxing LIAT out of business. The need LIAT to bring travellers to their shores but they first priority for LIAT is tax generation and that is killing the airline. The next time you purchase a LIAT ticket check and see how much of the fare goes to the airline: the taxes cost more than the flight.—————————————————————————————————–
    CASWELL IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT


  28. Governments of Barbados have long been viciously violating, in the main, a fundamental principle in the material production distribution systems of this country, and, in the process of doing so (a la TAXATION), have been systematically more and more destroying ransacking, et al, the production and distribution processes and centres of Barbados, and the income and wealth generating and asset holding processes and potential of the masses and middle classes of this country.

    The very axiomatic fundamental principle that the PDC herein writes about is: that entities must be able to present/give ( buy/sell) ANYTHING (good or service) to the relevant people (buyers/users) from ANYTHING (capital/assets/investments, etc) that is or can be used to get ANYTHING (nominal income/payments) from the relevant people as a means of advancing human society.

    Whereas the private sectors have been able to fairly master and practice (with some exceptions) this holy grailite principle of social political interaction, and in consonance with the use of their human, resources, asset, money and market access capacities, to their relative benefits, the parasitic unproductive inefficient unrational government sector ( an entity itself) pretends – via the apposite words and actions of its putative political bureacratic administrative leaders and managers – that it is not able to do almost like the private sectors; with all those human, resources, asset, money and market capacities that it has been able to contract/use over the years, it has been failing to do like Cave Sheperd, Goddards Enterprises, Hinds Transport, etc., – in this sense – get income, revenue.

    What raging egregious madness, indeed!!

    And when the form of government that Barbados has refuses to live in harmony with and give due respect to such a fundamental principle – but instead continues to abrogate this principle, esp via the use of TAXATION, as a very uncooperative social entity, it will – if not eventually stopped from doing so by the majority agreeable actions of the politically awakened activated masses and middle classes – lead to the further and greater destruction of itself and the wider Barbadian society.

    PDC


  29. @ Georgie PORGIE ./.. What PROOF THAT YOU HAVE>>> WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU FLEW ON LIAT AND FURTHERMORE ‘if” YOU DID FLY DID YOU REQUEST FROM LIAT THE PURPOSES OF THESE TAXES>


  30. miller Your question is one of political grandstanding and yardfowl bating. no need for further comment from ac. Frankly ac not in the mood…….


  31. Governments of Barbados have long been viciously violating, in the main, a fundamental principle in the material production distribution systems of this country, and, in the process of doing so (a la TAXATION), have been systematically more and more destroying ransacking, et al, the production and distribution processes and centres of Barbados, and the income and wealth generating and asset holding processes and potential of the masses and middle classes of this country.

    The very axiomatic fundamental principle that the PDC herein writes about is: that entities must be able to present/give ( buy/sell) ANYTHING (good or service) to the relevant people (buyers/users) from ANYTHING (capital/assets/investments, etc) that is or can be used to get ANYTHING (nominal income/payments) from the relevant people as a means of making contributions to the advancement of human society anywhere.

    Whereas the private sectors have been able to fairly master and practice (with some exceptions) this holy grailite principle of social political interaction, and in consonance with the use of their human, resources, asset, money and market access capacities, to their relative benefits, the parasitic unproductive inefficient unrational government sector ( an entity itself) pretends – via the apposite words and actions of its putative political bureaucratic administrative leaders and managers – that it is not able to do almost like the private sectors; yet with all those human, resources, asset, money and market capacities that it has been able to contract/use over the years, it has been failing to do like Cave Sheperd, Goddards Enterprises, Hinds Transport, etc., – in this sense – get income, revenue.

    What raging egregious madness, indeed!!

    And when the form of government that Barbados has refuses to live in harmony with and give due respect to such a fundamental principle – but instead continues to abrogate this principle, esp via the use of this criminal TAXATION system, as a very uncooperative social entity, it will – if not eventually stopped from doing so by the majority agreeable actions of the politically awakened activated masses and middle classes – lead to the further and greater destruction of itself and the wider Barbadian society.

    PDC


  32. The challenge many of the little islands have is that LIAT is the main or only airline that services the respective islands. To pay/support services offered by their airports they apply taxes. If not taxes subsidies?

  33. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    AC

    GP FLEW ON LIAT THREE TIMES LAST YEAR

    FEE STRUCTURE WAS POINTED OUT TO ME BY A LIAT ENGINEER

    WHEN I COME ON BU I PRESENT FACTS AND THINGS ABOUT WHICH I KNOW

  34. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac | July 22, 2013 at 10:36 AM |

    We are glad you are aware of your place when it comes to serious topics like the one in hand.
    We don’t think it is possible for you to make an analytically critically and well informed contribution on such an important topic as LIAT restructuring unless you are prepared to apply a similar lens to the behaviour of the current administration in charge of this country’s economic and financial fortunes.

    The ball is in your court. Either bring a similar microscope to bear or leave LIAT to others who can make a more objectively critical analysis and recommendations for improvement.

    The problems with LIAT are indeed compounded by the obvious lack of political will by the Barbados shareholder government to take this bull by the horns and guide it in the vitally important direction it needs to go if the tourism industry is going to thrive and a papier-mรขchรฉ Caricom is going to morph into a real CSME

    Right, Mr.ac?


  35. @Miller

    What you neglected to add is that the lack of political will has straddled both political parties in control of government.


  36. Georgie @ AC

    WHEN I COME ON BU I PRESENT FACTS AND THINGS ABOUT WHICH I KNOW

    remember YOU are talking to an audience some of whom maybe new comers to BU and are unaware of your contributions on BU. therefore as it is only Fair for one to ask follow up questions and not to take any one comment as gospel
    However it would instructive only if not in fairness to LIAT for you to give a short breakdown on those taxes as explained to you . I meaning this is a serious relevation which contributes to declines in customer share of the market for LIAT
    However I do believe that LIAT can compensate the customer by developing marketing strategies that would be complimentary to meeting customers standards and needs.


  37. miller I told You I am not in the MOOD to engage in YOUR POLITICAL YARDFOWL GAMES. NOW IF YOU CONTINUE TO BE AN INDOMINABLE IRRITANT PEST. .I WOULD HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO TELL U WHERE TO GO > AND THAT IS PUTTING IT MIDLY.


  38. millertheanunnaki | July 22, 2013 at 11:07 AM
    @ ac | July 22, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    The problems with LIAT are indeed compounded by the obvious lack of political will by the Barbados shareholder government to take this bull by the horns and guide it in the vitally important direction it needs to go if the tourism industry is going to thrive and a papier-mรขchรฉ Caricom is going to morph into a real CSME

    miller are u now sticking both feet in your mouth .. after years of calling this govt incompetent. now to making the above statement believing that if the Barbados govt take the bull by the horn it would make a difference,! do I detect confidence ” on your part or a back handed criticism.. in every event the message you trying to get across is a good one ;however too little too late that message should have been resonated years ago. Now go back to the drawing board and start all over again… CONFIDENCE” inGovt to get something right ! well wonders never cease ..LUV IT!

  39. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac | July 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM |

    Well do it and see if the miller gives Sweet FA!
    Let us see your true colours and you will see if the miller is afraid of the biggest idiot on this blog.

    You sound like a poor pathetic broken defeated piece of shit just like your two-bit piss poor DLP administration that would soon be shitting itself when DR. Estwick crosses the floor and become an “Independent” honourable member of Parliament unless he is given what he demands that is the MoF position.

  40. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac | July 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM | & @ ac | July 22, 2013 at 11:36 AM |

    The above two responses of yours can only be that of a confusingly contradicting constipated mind in need of a good purging.

    Why don’t you follow your own prescription for colonic comic relief and stick to your promised silence to remain a dumb ass?


  41. Miller……..we gotta admire ac, all her DLP yardies (yardfowls) abandoned her to take the heat, ran away and left her stranded to face the music.


  42. @Miller

    Expect Your last response…. Bulls EYE caught with a deadly dose of mental madness emitting from your mouth . Physican heal thyself,,,,,,,Stupid!! You are Dismiss…….


  43. @
    TimeLongerThanTwine | July 22, 2013 at 6:20 AM |

    Truth be told, after the letter was highlighted by Branson, LIAT managers came to the realisation that something should be done. This Leesa person went ahead and made the video, posted it without clearing it with management. When the furor broke out, that was why it was hastily removed.

    Truth be told, if LIAT is ever to prosper, it is imperative that the headquarters be removed out of the corrupt hands of Antiguans. The company is top heavy and the managers are sucking the airline dry! Plus Antigua thinks that it has a right to be headquarters for LIAT and that LIAT must provide jobs for its people. It is a widely held view that many of its non Antiguan staff hates living in Antigua.


  44. and to think that with all the economic challenges this country is experiencing and people like miller calling for govt to lay off people and cut spending Miller of all people would be asking the govt to get itself all tied up fulltime with this dead horse LIAT as if the govt not good enough trying to hold restraint…. Miller U have been caught wid yuh pants down pissing on the sidewalk in broad daylight…….PHEW!
    BTW prodigal I speak for ac I don’t need cheerleaders however apparently u never miss a beat of anything I say.

  45. Gabriel Tackle Avatar
    Gabriel Tackle

    @Prodigal
    You are spot on.LIAT is seen as an Antiguan airline operating on the backs of foolish Bajans,Vincies,and now Dommies(almost said Dummies but they are not).Trinidad once owned 90% of LIAT and they were exceedingly arrogant to Bwee which had that controlling interest obo the Eric Williams government.
    Bwee eventually got out of the partnership.Since then LIAT resisted moves by
    certain entities which wanted the operations ,administration and marketing relocated to St Lucia and Barbados.That decision would be political suicide so my advcice to the other Caribbean shareholders is to read the riot act to LIAT management and assert control of the carrier.Failure to do that is to condone the bad management practices and the unwieldy staff structure that combine to guarantee repeated financial bingo with taxpayers’ monies.

  46. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Prodigal Son | July 22, 2013 at 12:15 PM |

    For such a small airline LIAT has massively large overheads sitting primarily in that Antigua-based HQ.

    It is expected that an airline that operates within a multiple-landing business environment (short hops and stops in multiple jurisdictions) would be challenged with unavoidable operating and maintenance costs. Thatโ€™s an acceptable business cost limiting factor it must operate with as a reality.

    An aircraft not in the air is incurring cost not generating revenue. But to saddle that same carrier with inexplicably excessive administrative costs mainly hidden in an unproductive HQ is a recipe for that airlineโ€™s congenital poor performance, financial and other wise.

    An overmanned HQ answerable to no one in terms of justification for its inappropriate location given the airlineโ€™s operational configuration. A Head Office burdened with unjustifiably costly duplicating managerial supernumeraries with strong political connection and whose measurable contributions to either operating efficiencies, customer satisfaction or the airlineโ€™s general marketing and PR image building are way below break-even point.

    BTW, Prodigal, have you heard about that strong rumour circulating in both political camps of a pending political bomb about to explode with possible massive damage to the ruling administration?
    It seems that there could be another falling out with the โ€œvery pissed-offโ€ individual crossing over to Jordan to sit in an unoccupied chair marked โ€œReserved for a Temporary Independentโ€.
    We shall see if Fumble who has been given an ultimatum by the Agricultural Doc will stand his ground and allow Stinkliar to continue to call the shots in the MoF
    This monkey-manned Cabinet is turning into a theatre for laughs with its regular comedy of errors on show.


  47. @ac
    “Any ideas Peltdown? ……….I didn’t think so.”
    Thanks for giving me the chance, ac! There are only two obvious bases for LIAT, and those are the two hubs, Barbados and Antigua. It would appear to me, (and I’m always open to having you correct me ac, given your superior knowledge of airline operation) that the routes out of the Barbados hub carry more volume, and despite the fact that Barbados is not really well known for its level of service, it is still many times better than the service offered by the Antigua staff of LIAT. This doesn’t mean that there won’t be a hub in Antigua, just that management, operations, and engineering will be based in Barbados. I don’t need to explain further, Miller says it all in the above post.


  48. Yes, miller, I have been hearing of some royal rumbling, we will wait and see.

    Here is a joke for you. The lady in the DLP election bus ad went to a “Q in the Community” recently and she was booed from the place. The people there lighted into her, she was so ashamed, she ran for cover. They told her, “you are the reason the DLP got back in power and now have we suffering”.

    Ha, ha, ha!


  49. Using Barbados as a hub, the overall cost to Barbados plus supporting the airline would not make sense, Barbados is the biggest shareholder and it makes sense to stop there . The plan was for those in Caricom share bit of the Burden expecting Barbados to supply a bulk of the fiancรฉs and then have to sink more money in management and marketing is a recipe for disaster

  50. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac | July 22, 2013 at 3:35 PM |

    You are just one little confusingly convoluted jump-up piece of intellectual shit.
    We just donโ€™t get what you are arguing in your schizophrenic-style contribution.
    Sort your thoughts out and come back to the debating table.

    Just another case of an idiot pretending to be wise!

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