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@ Simple Simon
2nd time in as few days that you have rushed in to make indefensible statements once on behalf of the all time clown Marva Alleyne and now for non existent LIAT flights to Monserrat.
We are watching you and hope that simple does not mean, simplistic
sorry meant Marva Clarke.
Ms Alleyne apologies
LIAT – You should say to de ‘Marketing Communications Specialist’, “YOU ARE FIRED”. Then go about firing your entire management team for not getting it. And letting this happen.
I see nothing wrong with that beautiful black lady’s hair.It is natural tightly curled or kinky (your preference) hair.
I have seen other young black women with similar hairstyles.Check out Paula Hinds who I must say hers look a bit outrageous to me,but hell that’s her black hair.Thankfully the young lady in the videp is not wearing that awful,musty weave most black women can’t seem to do without these days.
Yes the content of the AD is stupid and not appropriate to the original complaint.That said however, I really can’t agree with all the insulting remarks about the young woman.
Would those remarks be made if her hair was dead straight and blonde as per the causcacian hair type?
The LIAT ad while a coiffeur’s nightmare and an insult to our eldest son who once wore the most perfect afro, and is now bald, his mother’s genes, I still have some hair on the head, is possibly one of the best knight’s gambits that Jean Holder has thought of in his lifetime.
Let me explain.
1. Poorly edited advertisement – purposely put together by a seeming amateur (bait item #1)
2. Hosted by a person who looks like if she was in a cat fight, and lost. Not any comparison to the ravenous beauties that Sir Branston’s advertisement demand.
3. Seemingly where the script and scenes were patched together late one evening by the videographer after a few drinks (and the hostess after some long hard, you know what). A purposed strategy of “made the ad look shoddy, instead of make it look professional, particularly when our LIAT is rupturing at the seams”.
Projected results, Sir Branston responds and takes up the “Challenge”, rushes in to prove a point that he can “out do” LIAT and throughput to our islandchain increases.
A brilliant strategy born from the mind of an Orwellian strategist which unfortunately Jean Holder is not.
So it is a poorly thought out, composed ad after all.
Steupseeee!!!
Wait and see of the new flight brings changes. I never one delay with liat and that was this year and it was due to mechanical prob. I prefer to wait that to die. Nothing lost from having to wait. Flew with them 6 times last year even during peak periods and no delays.
The video is not all that.
@ Common sense is not common | July 9, 2013 at 11:23 AM |
First time the miller is in whole agreement with you.
Now you know how it feels when the messenger is attacked instead of what is contained in the message.
We are glad to see that the first ray of commonsense is beginning to peek out from that dark cloud of partisan ignorance (LOL, if you can!!).
You can cuss the miller as usual since he gets great pleasure from it to brighten his rather boring life.
But you must admit he hasn’t been wrong so far about the economy and the eventual revamping of free tertiary education.
Ask Ronald Jones what is planned for UWI from the next academic year. But isn’t he taking a rather bold step in going against his PM’s position? Isn’t this gross insubordination and in need of another snubbing and public humiliation as in the case of the AX enquiry?
If you were to use your commonsense and examine what the miller is saying instead of cussing him left right and irritatingly centre you might just be able to put some proposals on the table of massive expenditure cuts to save your DLP administration from making the same faux as in 1991/92; that is inviting the IMF to sort out things.
Dat woman head looks like a Don King wannabe.
Clap hands …have you been drinking? You sound a bit incoherent.
@ Common Sense is not common
You dont get this thing dont you?
This is not about blackness nor our understanding that we still struggle against tacit and overt racism, it is about, in any “conflict” sending our best who will be able to defend us against these attacks that WILL COME.
Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson vis a vis Barach Obama, only send the best, those on the periphery will only make us the target of unflattering remarks
I am blacker that many of you will ever be and i say send me the best of our nubian princesses.
Image is everything, diction and a seamless presentation, albeit on a low marketing budget, would have been a better strategy.
This internet thing is a powerful tool wielded by soldiers who understand this fight.
Take a look at the david duke video posted earlier by Iabingy, a mass of lies, cut and pasted with a precision and perfection that, were it not for the colour of my skin, i would have easily come to the conclusion that what Duke was intoning about my brothers was true.
You only have one chance to get this right, we cannot allow these mediocre attempts to become the standards in our combat, up the ante, or we die in utero.
She is a good looking young lady but for this message, and the psychology behind all imagery of this type, who we are “baiting”, it was simply not good enough
This is not like the subliminal advertisements of Coke advertising, nor is it like the russian advertisement which is displayed after the LIAT ad, with the frothy soap pouring offf the asses and pudendas of those nubile caucasian bodies, this is about understanding how premiere visuals, with our most visually stunning, articulate speakers can engage our targets.
When the CIA and NASA wish to enviegle their marks in foreign governments they employ the most attractive parties (either male or female) to reel in their persons of interest.
Perspective sir/madam in all things
Most of the men on this blog like strong hairy lack women.
And they are lying when they say otherwise.
Don’t mind Piece uh de rock yeah right at 11:31 a.m. “Not any comparison to the ravenous beauties that Sir Branston’s”
I don’t hear anybody making nasty comments about Sir Dwight Venner’s hair, or the American ambassador’s
Some of the people on this blog are both racist and sexist
LIAT is an airline which is owned 49% by Barbados. Further it is an airline which P&L has hemorrhaged up to 50 million dollars in the last two reporting periods. The point here is that LIAT has an obligation to be professional in its business dealings. Branson has the luxury to do do what he wants which should not be a dictate for LIAT management. The video would have been approved by senior management of LIAT.
Correction “strong hairy black women”
Miller
Thanks for the backhanded complement.
No offence taken at your occasional outrage.
Not sure you have been reading all my comments because I am post very infrequently and say whatever is on my mind (as decently as possible of course ) and try to be fair and balance (not like fox news though lol).
We are dealing with black skin white minded persons and they don’t even realise it.
Black hair is naturally wiry and doesn’t lie down flat.Yet we are made to feel that our women folk must straighten out their hair to look like the other races with straight hair before we consider they are looking decent.
Remember that Alfred Taylor case at the Holiday Inn or Grand Barbados (can’t remember the name of the hotel) where the young lady had braids and she was dismissed.
Eventually she won her case.
The thing is no one is saying dress in an untidy manner,but we must remember the colonial master who set the standards of who and what is beautiful,are still the ones making that judgement call today.Remember the lighter your skin and the less kinky your hair back then the more valued you were as a slave.
Black hairstyles are on the opposite side of the spectrum to indian,chinese and white hairstyles.
A lot of these images of white barbies have many of our young black women still messed up,hence this constant need to wear other people’s cast off hair,and the need to dye your hair almost white blond even though you are as black as midnight.
I live in hope that one day we will be fully appreciative of what it means to be black inside and outside.
The following is posted on LIAT’s website. Can anyone provide clarification about who are LIAT’s shareholders given we have been told LIAT has four investors (Barbados, Antigua, St. Vincent and Dominica).
LIAT Board of Directors
ChairmanDr. Jean Holder
Directors of (Barbados)Mr. Trevor MayersMrs. Gabrielle Springer-TaylorMr. Grantley Smith
Director of (St. Vincent)Mr. Isaac Solomon
Directors of (Antigua)Mrs. Nadia Spencer HenryMr. Paul Ryan
Executive Management
Captain Ian BruntonChief Executive Officer
Julie Reifer-JonesChief Financial Officer
Leesa Parris-RudderChief Commercial Officer
Diane ShurlandLegal Counsel and Company Secretary
Desmond BrownCorporate Communications Manager
George ArthurtonDirector of Flight Operations
Alan AlexanderDirector of Engineering
Lesroy BrowneDirector of Schedule Planning & Special Projects
Wilbur EdwardsDirector of Ground Operations, Cargo/QuikPak
Ilean RamseyDirector of Human Resource
Andy BenjaminInformation & Communications Technology Manager
Sonya JohnDirector of Customer Service
Andrea JamesTreasurer
All correspondence should be addressed to:LIAT Board Of DirectorsPO Box 819St John’s, Antigua
Shareholders
LIAT shareholding includes varying amounts of shares held by eleven Caribbean Governments. The complete list of shareholders are as follows:
GOVERNMENT OF ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA
GOVERNMENT OF BARBADOS
GOVERNMENT OF DOMINICA
GOVERNMENT OF GRENADA
GOVERNMENT OF GUYANA
GOVERNMENT OF JAMAICA
GOVERNMENT OF ST. KITTS AND NEVIS
GOVERNMENT OF MONTSERRAT
GOVERNMENT OF ST. LUCIA
GOVERNMENT OF ST. VINCENT AND THE GRENADINES
GOVERNMENT OF TRINDAD AND TOBAGO
ANTIGUA COMMERCIAL BANK
ANTIGUA BARBUDA INVESTMENT BANK
ACB INVESTMENT CO. LTD
ANTIGUA & BARBUDA WORKERS UNION
BWIA WEST INDIES AIRWAYS LTD.
CARRIBEAN AIRWAYS
HKH (ANTIGUA) LTD.
LEEWARD ISLANDS AERONAUTICAL ENGINEERS ASSOCIATION
LIAT STAFF PROVIDENT FUND
NATIONAL COMMERCIAL BANK OF DOMINCA LTD.
NATIONAL COMMERCIAL BANK OF GRENADA
JOAN B. SLACK
STATE INSURANCE CORPORATION
ST. JOHN’S CO-OPERATIVE CREDIT UNION
Common sense is not common | July 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM |
Miller
Thanks for the backhanded complement.
No offence taken at your occasional outrage.
Not sure you have been reading all my comments because I am post very infrequently and say whatever is on my mind (as decently as possible of course ) and try to be fair and balance (not like fox news though lol).
We are dealing with black skin white minded persons and they don’t even realise it.
Black hair is naturally wiry and doesn’t lie down flat.Yet we are made to feel that our women folk must straighten out their hair to look like the other races with straight hair before we consider they are looking decent.
Remember that Alfred Taylor case at the Holiday Inn or Grand Barbados (can’t remember the name of the hotel) where the young lady had braids and she was dismissed.
Eventually she won her case.
The thing is no one is saying dress in an untidy manner,but we must remember the colonial master who set the standards of who and what is beautiful,are still the ones making that judgement call today.Remember the lighter your skin and the less kinky your hair back then the more valued you were as a slave.
Black hairstyles are on the opposite side of the spectrum to indian,chinese and white hairstyles.
A lot of these images of white barbies have many of our young black women still messed up,hence this constant need to wear other people’s cast off hair,and the need to dye your hair almost white blond even though you are as black as midnight.
I live in hope that one day we will be fully appreciative of what it means to be black inside and outside.
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Very well said…………..i would bet that 99.99% of black women don’t know that unless white women get up every day (since they no longer have slaves) and put a straight hot comb to their hair every day or leave it tied up, it just looks like a rat’s nest………..stupidity knows no bounds.
I love the woman
Telephone number anyone
@ Common sense is not common | July 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM
Peace my brother or sister, Peace! I could not agree with you more.
The problem still exists among the black sisters thinking that they have arrived with their forex wastage false ‘Remy’ Portia Simpson-Miller lookalike hairstyle.
How do we get our sisters who have been highly educated (some with PhD’s) to play the role you have just outlined? Black women are more appealing and emotionally convincing than the black man in spreading the message of black liberation and charting the way forward for our people.
Our friend “PODRYR” has a point. We not only need black women psychologically free of the damage done to the psyche of the black person in terms of how he or she looks physically but also to capture the best of our well educated and intellectually attuned people like yourself to tell the World we are free physically, psychologically and spiritually.
We will carve not only God but our future in our own image.
The quicker blacks see themselves as the closest beings to God with their “darkened” skin full of melanin the better for the species in its race to survive and delay its eventual extinction.
Ask Bushie if you doubt the miller!
How about that, commonsense becoming more common?
Amen………….
If the shareholder governments of LIAT are serious, they need to give subsidised air fares to the citizens of these goverments. This would force the other goverments in the region who benefit from LIAT’s services to contribute to its survival.
I think the lady looks swell. I go out every day looking worse. take today, went to the gym at 7:30 no comb, no brush. Left gym, went to supermarket, no comb, no brush. came home had lunch went to garden, no comb, no brush. I have a friend here right now for tea, no comb, no brush. Going to bed tonight, get up tomorrow, same thing.
Give us natural black ladies with natural locks a break.
wunna men got a problem if in this age of modernism and making one self look attractive and appealing is some thing to do with self. hate and not being proud of the person you are, wunna men really got a problem. I belive that wunna only complaining because wunna cheapskates and don’t want to dig deep in the pockets to give the woman the money for these personal enhancements .However on the other side when wunna go out wid the nappy head wife or girlfriend wunna can’t help but look at the woman with the long hairweave comparing her to the difference in style and attractiveness to the so-called “natural Beauty ” ,Fuh real ! wunna would do about and say anything to avoid giving the woman the money to make her enhanced her personality.When it boils down to it it is all about wunna cheap and don’t want to spend the money on wunna women. and all the dribble about natural this and natural that is alll horse sh..it.. Wunna need to shut up cause wunna talking bare crap just a bunch of leaking “Brass Boiwls wid.
LIAT, Caribbean Airline, Receives Hilarious Complaint Letter From Passenger
Is this what all the fuss is about?????
Thoughtless move on LIAT’s part….
http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/how-to-write-a-complaint-letter
So Richard Branson pokes fun at an actual complaint letter that is all over the Internet and LIAT gets its bloomers in a bunch over it…smh……and the REAL problem is…….???? smh
IMPEACH RICHARD BRANSON NOW
Liat again in the news, passengers at the airport saying that Liat has no sign saying that they are closed. Their flight info board says that everything is on schedule. SMH The customer is never first with Liat.
is there anything right about LIAT! really how does an airline in this age of rapid news afford such negative publicity.Getting off the ground with bald tires not easy and a recipe for disaster; I don’t belive what I am hearing and just to think that millions of readers are finding out just as I type, LIAT needs a good PR firm to hold its wings high above the skies cause they are flying too close to the ground at warp speed.
Common sense is not common
Just for the record, I ticked your comment
I just happened to watch the video and I can’t for the life of me see what the commotion is about a tongue in cheek “challenge”, and what’s wrong with the young woman’s hair?
Seriously some folks have to get out more.
@Sargeant
One wonders therefore why LIAT took down the video from Youtube.
@David
I would hazard a guess that they caved like a cheap suitcase after the criticism which seems along the lines of how come a small puddle jumper could fly in the face of a Trans Atlantic carrier with a world famous honcho at the head.
From reading about Branson I think he would be amused after all he has been known for pulling practical jokes and he is not above putting his foot in his mouth.
Gabrielle Springer-Taylor, Perm. Scty for ex-Seafood minister Georgie (Porgie) Hutson who helped murder REDjet – should a a Civil Service Sr officer also be a Director on a Board which pertains to her ministry (Int’l Transport)? Why is the phrase “Conflict Of interest” jumping around my head all of a sudden, eh?? This is one of LIAT’s many twists and turns which prevent it from reaching its correct potential…
The sad thing is if LIAT was smart? Find the letter writer and offer them a UK trip via Virgin, everyone wins! That is Pro-Active…. Get Ser Richard to be the writer’s Flight Attendant and have Virgin personnel do some training with LIAT Staff & Management, make mileage but not like THIS?
@Sargeant
Perhaps there is the view my most Caribbean people who have to travel on LIAT that the airline is known to be inefficiently managed and therefore should avoid these tongue in cheek battles with Goliath airlines like Virgin, especially when it is not a competitor.
Dear LIAT
Having now made the comedy list internationally on no less than NBC’s Today show maybe LIAT will try to do something to make your detractors, both international and regional. look at you with a modicum of respect dear Jean.
I would humbly suggest the following.
For one day a week, for the next 3 months, expand your Just Go programme to two days a week, those of your weekdays where you note that people dont fly with a U$$100 round trip
Pair up with specific hotels in specific destinations, the ones that realise that in this “hurt season”, having travellers stay with them, instead of paying utility bills and bank loans on empty rooms, is worth giving a 50%? discount on one’s accomodation.
Maybe if you, and your marketing staff, got up off your derrieres and went into the trenched Jean and you personally spoke to these hotel owners, like Sir Branston does with his targets, you could solicit support for a LIAT underwritten intra-Caribbean initiative that various CARICOM member states might welcome.
Then again, I have been up for a while and have to take the insulin as prescribed, so you should forgive my thinking that you Mr. Holder would be disposed to spearhead a programme to promote affordable intra Caribbean travel.
So forgive me this interruption, let me go take my medicine so that i can come back and use my extensive pensioner time, idly looking around the internet for more comedy/jokes on LIAT.
Holder, you is a Bajan isn’t you? Say no more, say no more, wunna in a class of clowns all by wunna self, Seethru and Fumble is you leaders, so i expect alotta long talk, meetings galore and nuffin will happen
LIAT – Lotta Ineffectual Abortive Talkers
(I had was to look real hard fuh de word wid an “A” doah)
With LiAT it is always NEVER about the customer.
Their ads show only their planes and their staff, NEVER about their customers.
The customer is seen as their enemy.
Thanks a million BAFBFP.
I see I am in good company.
@pieceahderock
Note that Branson is a bonafide entrepreneur and Holder is an appointee by a government. We know the difference does not escape you.
@David
My comment was not to defend LIAT’s business acumen (or lack thereof), I was just disappointed that a harmless video could generate the kind of withering criticism offered here. Even the woman appearing was criticised for her deportment and appearance, people seem to forget that she is perhaps a model just trying to earn a few bucks..
Memo to LIAT next time you air an ad put in a call to Madison Ave. or get Charles Saatchi (forget the last name he got enough troubles of his own).
liat is crap always has been and always will be..;!
I heard that there are many passengers at GAIA right now who were asked to book in early this morning, but is still at the airport waiting for a flight out.
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Please stop dissing LIAT.
I have travelled LIAT twice between Barbados and two other islands. It was on time, efficient and the service was friendly.
Richard Branson has the luxury of laughing at its travails, but LIAT has the responsibility of servicing routes (whether or not they are profitable) as a vital social and developmental imperative to lesser developed islands.
In this sense it is like Bahamasair, which will NEVER be profitable, but which anyone but a fool recognises is vital in keeping the far flung country together and servicing islands with a population of 50 or less people. LIAT has a similar responsibility, over a similar size area, except it deals with separate sovereign nations.
Cut LIAT some slack and please do not try to compare it to a private sector airline. To do so is ignorance.
@ David [BU]
And with that observation, of entrepreneur versus wannabe, therein lies the never-ending quandary in which we find ourselves, putting men, and women, who could not in a week of Sundays, run a sno’ cone cart as effectively as Sister Marshall did all these years in Cheapside market
I am inclined to agree with Old Onions when he accosts us as brass bowls because we seem to have misunderstood the message and continue to practice that “pin pun she” policy, to our eternal detriment.
I do acknowledge that in a small island that everybody know every body else so it is not difficult to unwittingly employ the “Six degrees of separation” by default.
However, in our case, that renown Kevin Bacon theory is aptly translated into “Six inches of separation” not because Seethru and Fumble is short men and dem head is so close to dere posteriors dat dem perforce issh**te talkers, but it is so so called because of the distance between the correct area where intelligent infants are birthed and the other unspeakable orifice where these brass bowls like Jean come from.
Did you know that the chicken’s egg technically comes from its pooch? I plan to call Sinkliar and/or that Alair Shepherd fellow because they seem to have degrees in “poochology” and backsidism, not to be confused with “backslidism” when one who purports to be “Washed in the Blood” backslides.
I feel that the two of them will be ale to shed great insight into why we appointing so many proctologists to our leading administrative positions without fail.
“The fault lies not in our stars, but in ourselves, that we are underlings”
Effective tomorrow LIAT should stop flying to those unprofitable routes. If Caricom wants to subsidise let them.
Capt Ian Brunton: 35% of LIAT’s flights subsidised
Frigate Bay, St Kitts: Thirty-five per cent of 112 daily flights by LIAT are described by the airline’s new chief executive officer Captain Ian Brunton as “social (uneconomic) routes.” “LIAT cannot continue to meet the cost of these social routes,” Brunton told the state of the industry conference of the Caribbean Tourism Organisation in St Kitts last week.
The airline operates the intra-regional routes in the Caribbean going as far north as Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic and Guyana and T&T in the south, also flying into the US and British Virgin Islands and the French Caribbean, Guadeloupe and Martinique. http://www.guardian.co.tt/business-guardian/2012-10-17/capt-ian-brunton-35-liat%E2%80%99s-flights-subsidised
i have flown on LIAT FROM AS FAR BACK AS 1968 AND AS RECENT AS LAST YEAR, AND HAVE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS
@ David | July 10, 2013 at 7:11 PM |
“Effective tomorrow LIAT should stop flying to those unprofitable routes. If Caricom wants to subsidise let them.”
Or, as suggested on a different thread, charge an economic fare to residents from locations whose governments do not contribute to the subsidy when flying to those unprofitable routes.
I am glad to see Cpt. Brunton is seeing the same landing lights on the tarmac of harsh business sense if LIAT is to figuratively not drop from the blue Caribbean skies.
branson in drag ”””’ Like Five stars;;;;;;;;;; one defining moment in the video . would like to be a fly on the wall of those getaway parties on one of his private islands, come to think of it all that video need was the part showing Branson in drag,,,,,,,,theU tube hits wouild have been in the millions.
Caption NO APOLOGIZES HERE,,,,,,,,,,
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