Of course here is an issue which speaks to the heart of what is wrong with Barbados i.e. our competitiveness and competitively but it is not as sexy as other issues. A look on Facebook to see what Bajans are discussing and to say you come away disappointed is understated. The narrative is always led by a few people and push the peripheral issues.

What happened to Mr. Thorpe is a routine occurrence across Barbados to many Barbadians who want to achieve a dream. Sadly our inefficient system touched Internal Business and guess what, it did not happen in the last 4-years.

The property was to house a new and one of the first Tandoori Restaurants on the island . A U.K foreign investor inject 10% of the start up cost for the business , after delays with planning and trying to get work permits for the speciality chefs which was difficult. The investor told me to keep the 10% as he prefer to lost 10% than the full amount of capital . He also mention ,if you are barbadian and you cant get approval to carry out this venture ,we will get other problems in the future . He is totally correct . i agrre with with Wily Coyote

@Peltdownman

Agree that the dearth of serious non partisan debate is worrying. We can try to lead the many discussions but at the end of it all we can’t knock anyone on the head.

Here is a provocative contribution by the respected Peter Laurie in todays newspaper, a former career diplomat!

http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/on-the-other-hand-wheel-and-come-again/

Agree with Mr. Thorpe that Heritage development in Bridgetown must take a different form. Out of curiosity how many cark park spaces were approved for LIMEGROVE?

DO you know that this has nothing to do with BLP OR DLP.
DO you understand that this problem lies in the mis-education of our people propel by the same thoughts that maintains for example an 11 plus exam that says if you dont pass it at 11 years old, your life is doomed, although this is not true??
DO you understand that it is then exemplified in a people who fail to stive for execellence ?
DO you understand that these attitudes are nutured in the Public Service by people who should know better?
DO you know that empathy for others and human consideration are absent from the senior Public servants who seem to made out of iron when dealing with other human beings?

Post Arch Cot there was a lot of chatter about the under-resourced responsibilities of the Town Planning Department and its mandate listed in the Physical Development Plan and laws of Barbados. Where are we? Have we made any strides?

@JUST ASKING
HOSEA 4:6 my people shall be distroy,because they are lack of knowledge and you are very true . I have done my research well in the matter by viewing the Town Plannning Applicants Handbook, and the Physical Development Plan Amended (2003) these Acts and requirement was not done by Ryan Thorpe again it true we need to have some form of knowledge

Captian R Straughn is the Permanent Secretary Special Assignment to the Prime Ministers Office ,everyone in Barbados should know his formerly position , He dont knows nothing about Development or Town Planning , but as a young business person the venture is too big for me . I am one of the youngiest Property owner’s in Bridgetown and the property was not inherit but purchase with legal tender

The BTI, Wharf, and Central carparks are owned by government albeit indirectly.

Ryan
It is obvious…you are not welcomed to be there….have you considered your alternatives? One must weigh all cost and outflows, before going to battle…

old onion bags
It’s No Doubt

From the time we born mankind have to face battles, proverty, injuries, illness, love and financial struggles .
I AM BAJAN , My battles is to exposure Government interties so people like me and you can acknowledge this fake society enabling the next generation to continue to write they name’s on histories page of Barbados .
Business development is battles for young people in Barbados that’s why they are go the easy way out (drug and crime). I can say to you , but owning that property I have reform some of the worst criminals on the island by the physical work that was injected , so this battle is not in vain.

As soft water maybe ,it can still penetrate a floor concrete after a long period.

David their party leader and his buddies at Town Planning will do the same to others as they did to some of us.

Maybe someone has a development plan for Roebuck street properties and it doesn’t include an Indian restaurant.

DO you know that this Government doing bare foolishness to everybody ?
Peter Boyce cant put on a fete
Berger Boys cant put on a fete
Somebody else plus nuff other people cant put on their fetes and um is Crop Over
The Kiddies Kadooment mashed up

Every shite the DLP do is having the Reverse Midas touch–turning to dust and not Gold
They frigged up the whole of Crop Over , the whole of Crop Over then -oh Rasshole Man !
Be Gone DLP

2012/2013

BLP=29 SEATS
DLP=0 SEATS
INDEPENDENT = 1 SEAT

1999
BLP =28 SEATS
DLP = 2 SEATS
INDEPENDENT = 0 SEATS

DO you thing this is a Joke ???

JUST ASKING

It is sad how far we have come as black people. It seems that we hold the political power on this island and the public servants we elect play massa at every turn they get. It is one thing to become free but it is sadder when the free become massa over their own people. This a perfect example of a nation that has lost its way. BOTH political parties are to be blamed for their refusal to clean up the civil service. It says two things about them, either they are idiots acting in a capacity that is way above their heads or they are on the take!

@ Observer
“Can anyone confirm whether it is true that LIME has been “locked” out providing telecoms services at the Villages at Coverley. I am not a LIME fan, but is this not unfair competition??”

Lime refused to be part of the process and were left behind as TeleBarbados came on board.

I know that we are in the 21 century and i love with the motor car.

But many of the buildings in historic Bridgetown were built before the motor car was invented and so were build without motor car parking spaces.

If historic Bridgetown is to be revived, recover, rebuilt and prosper we have to come up with creative solutions.

It seems to me that Ryan Thorpe has not only renovated a building, but has put forward some creative solutions.

Town and Country planning should listen, should be creative and should be accommodating.

wha looka wha we come ta doh smh

It has been a noble effort by Mr Thorpe to restore a building in Roebuck Street , a street that has seen the birth of many a Bajan entrepreneur, C.C. King, R.A .Griffith, Louis Lynch and F.C.Catwell to name a few,and at a time when the ownership of much of the property in Roebuck Street has gone East. Makes one wonder if Mrs Ram was given this same run around when she purchased property on Bay Street,that is now Liquidation Centre, and which does not have any parking space for customers, or even for all of her delivery trucks, and where daily one , including the policeman on the beat, can see forklift trucks operating against traffic flow on a one way street.

There are a number of issued here:

– the first and most obvious being that there is no reason the noted delays should occur.Slow decisions do not mean better decisions, it means inefficiency. Unfortunately, this is an everyday occurrence. While some blame the staff themselves, often it is the multi-layer process and lack of authorisation ability that is at fault.
– that the building is neither new , but existing, nor new to commercial use, makes one wonder why the applicatant would have to provide parking spaces? Surely the building as was already satisfied town planning, it already served commercial reasons, this has not changed? Very strange.
– a question that should be asked, is why non-productive government departments are taking up valuable space in Bridgetown, a place of commerce, supposedly? Both in terms of building space and in trms of parking?
– In terms of parking and traffic flow, the real problem is lack of a modern Bridgetown traffic plan, with outside circle parking, a round and through Bridgetown tram system (for swift transit and those who are not able to walk far) and walkways for most.Recent Bridgetown developments, as with most developments, have been poorly planned and executed. Much is unsightly and cluttered, rather than attractive, logical and contributing to business and tourism.

So, while understandably the applicant is focused on the issue he encountered and specificallty on restorations, there are much bigger problems to do with Bridgetown, the overall design and flow being antiquated and now irrelevant.

Colonel Buggy
Many thanks for the injection , As you read the 9 page document you will notice 3 examples of on- street parking was granted by the Ministry of Transport for the police headquarters transport Authority and Urban Development Commission in the same area , this pictorial evidence was submitted at the appeal hearing on the 14th December 2011 The Prime Minister stated that Barbadian should look at option to work with the South Americians . I wil welcome that thought ,because assassination will be at our door step very soon . We have legal and illegal investeors worldwide , and when people put they money out in a system that victimize others it can only cause DANGER

Simple Simon
Thanks for the comments

The property is over 180 years old (days of the donkey cart) and the previous owner was shock and cried when she was invited to see the final finish of renovation .She mention that the property was inherited from her mother Violet Bourne and her children said it was unsafe and had to be demolish but this was proven wrong . As for Town Planning , when applicants go to they department , no positive advise is given to Developers . “Do you have a Draftman or Architect? they should know .

Here we have Patrick and Stacey Bryan (husband and wife) in the Town Planning Department .
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REPORT THIS MATTER NOW TO PERSONNEL ADMIN

REPORT IT

YOU WILL GET RESULTS
TRUST ME

What you are attempting to do is commendable. However, I would not be surprise if the TCPD decision is upheld by the appeal panel because I find your arguments weak.
One probably good argument could have been based on your opening hours. If your hours of operation for the sorts bar are 6pm and onwards then on street parking etc should not be a problem since most of the businesses on Roebuck Street and in Brdigetown are 8am to 6pm operations.

Nuff FAVOURITISM, but the TCPD could argue that a hardware store and sports bar are two different types of operations with separate parking requirements. Also me thinks each application is judged on its own ‘merit’.

@ Ryan
Okay well I hope it works out.

Many thanks for BU and the comments . I was inform via email by a Government Headquarter insider (unknown) , the decision is with Mr. Randolph Straughn since April 2012 and they said his position can’t be override . Clearly we can see where the delay is ( Senior Public Servant), the full report was completed by the Appeal Chairman, the Appeal Applicant and the TCDPO representive , all parties provided evidence .It was also stated the the TCP accept the evidence .

Hartford Law Chambers in Roebuck Street former office of the PM and now housed over 5 year ago the Court for Child Maintenance Where is the parking .

I received some very interested emails from recognize committees local and international who are very interested to assist with the enforcement of my recommendation to the Bill.