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BU recently commenced its series, Tales From The Courts, a sort of judicial equivalent to Tales From The Crypt and equally gruesome.

We started the series in an effort to highlight a judicial system in terminal decline that lacks any credibility anywhere, a Chief Justice whose efforts to correct this are being constantly obstructed and frustrated by appointees from a previous administration and a Government that surely MUST now step in and aggressively support the Chief Justice and fire or discipline any and all who seek to obstruct him in the exercise of his office.

BU also invited private and confidential e-mails from its readers on their own experiences with the Justice System and is now following leads and verifying information on submissions. If we find there to be merit in them, we will name and shame without compunction.

We have also opted to follow up the progress of stories that we had reported on previously, but had chosen not to go into details on then, due to the fact that they were before the courts at the time. However, what we discovered dismayed the BU household to such an extent that whether or not they are before the Courts, they demonstrate a degree of incompetence by the courts that is frankly shocking. Due to this, we hold that these stories are of public interest and refuse to defer to anybody that uses convention as a shield behind which to hide their own incompetence.

A CERTAIN ATTORNEY AND MP: BU has been apprised of a land transaction involving a certain attorney and MP. The transaction comes under the Tenantries Freehold Purchase Act, Cap. 239B. Inevitably this involves the Urban Commission. BU, at this stage, does not think it prudent to go into details on this case or to name names โ€“ but rest assured, Mr Attorney MP, if we do not receive notification that this matter has been cleared up, we will ventilate it and you fully. For the time being, BU will content itself with advising the general public and attorneys who may have missed that bit in their training, that Property Transfer Tax is paid ONLY by the Vendor, NOT the Purchaser. In the event that there is a house on the property in existence, whether it is owned by the Vendor or the Purchaser being immaterial, and that house is under the value of $150,000, upon application, the Property Transfer Tax is waived for the Vendor as well. In addition, BU wishes to advise that there is a scale of fees to which attorneys must adhere in matters of real property transactions in Barbados. BU intends to obtain a copy of this scale of fees and publish it. We are looking into this case fully and if, in our opinion, it requires the attention of someone more expert than ourselves, we shall be referring it to one of Her Majestyโ€™s counsel in Barbados for full and complete action, including civil and criminal as well as to the Court of Appeal for disciplinary action against the Attorney(s) concerned. We will, of course, be carrying a full report on the matter later naming names. So, Mr Attorney MP, consider yourself placed on notice.

Far right – Sir David Simmons and Madam Justice Elneth Kentish

MADAM JUSTICE ELNETH KENTISH: Madam Justice Kentish is on leave and it is she who is replaced by Madam Justice Beckles (which ought not to be seen as damning Madam Justice Beckles with faint praise, although it looks like it). With any luck the replacement will be permanent. But did you know that Madam Justice Kentish is herself sued in the Barbados High Court? The action against Madam Justice Kentish arises out of her omissions and failures to do her job in respect of a High Court Action commenced in 2004. Omissions and failures that have, to date, cost the Plaintiff $3.5 million. It is noted that only after proceedings had been filed against Madam Justice Kentish, did Madam Justice Kentish finally deliver her long-reserved judgement in 2010. This delay is the basis for the proceedings against her. Meanwhile, predictably in protection of each other, the judges have delayed and retarded the hearing of the application against Madam Justice Kentish with frivolous and annoying delays unworthy of the Bench in any other common law country. This is compounded by the failure of the office of the Attorney General to file within time (or at all) certain documents (indicating that no further information is required) for the matter to be heard. And the failure of the judge in the Kentish action, Madam Justice Margaret Reifer, to make the required declaration that no further information is required, in default of the Attorney General having done as required โ€“ a matter of statutory law that could only be misinterpreted by a total incompetent. But it does not stop there. Madam Justice Reiferโ€™s failure is undergoing an application for leave to appeal to the Court of Appeal to make the declaration she was statute-bound to make. Leave to appeal is heard by one judge. In this case, Madam Justice Goodridge. If the judge is unable or unwilling to grant leave, they must refer it to full hearing of a panel of three judges. Now, a long time later, this matter has not been referred to the panel. A letter to the Registrar complainingย  – in November 2010 – of the circumstances remains unanswered. A letter to Acting Chief Justice Moore a week later complaining of the lack of response from the Registrar โ€“ ALSO REMAINS UNANSWERED. The Plaintiff in this action against Madam Justice Kentish is out of pocket to the tune of $3.5 million. Meanwhile with all this incompetence flying around, the substantive case against Madam Justice Kentish is stalled on issues that, in any competent judicial system, would have been heard before a judge by PHONE and a judgement rendered AT ONCE!!! But, why should this surprise us that the Barbados Justice System has no hesitation in running up the costs? After all, it is that very Justice System that cost Barbados at least $500,000 in the Shanique Myrie case. But, hey, there may be an excuse โ€“ like โ€œDe file lost.โ€

THE CONTINUING KNOX SAGA: Back on June 24, 2010, BU reported the outcome of Knox/Allardโ€™s case against the Country of Barbados and over 60 prominent Bajans, including the Prime Minister (Thompson) Owen Arthur and the Chief Justice (David Simmons). Most recently, yet another of the multitudinous Knox/Allard case was heard before the CCJ sitting in Barbados and a decision should be forthcoming very soon. At issue in the CCJ case is the matter of costs awarded against Knox. But there is another issue of costs awarded against Knox that BU referred to in its June 24, 2010 report. It is High Court Action 2279 of 2003 in which Eric Iain Stewart Deane sued Marjorie Knox alleging fraud. BU had heard nothing further of the outcome of this action and decided to investigate and update its readers. We had heard nothing, because there is no outcome. This action, filed in 2003, did not reach the Courts until January 2009, some 6 years later. It was adjourned part-heard in April 2009 and to date, three years later, is uncompleted and no date for the continuation of the hearing has as yet been scheduled. 2279 asks the Court to void Knoxโ€™s transfer of her shares in Kingsland Estates Limited and to hand these shares over to Mr Deane in satisfaction of his costs (running, we have ascertained, to some millions of dollars). These costs relate to a case, appeal and the Privy Council Appeal ordered back in June 2005…….7 years ago. The interest alone goes back to 2001 and the first costs order. 11 years have passed without the Barbados Courts completing the hearing of this case. Given the propensity of Knox/Allard to appeal, it does not take clairvoyance to know that this case will end up on appeal before the CCJ, who will doubtless have some pointed and highly critical comments to make about the Barbados Courts, which will provide yet another nail in the coffin of Barbadosโ€™ judicial reputation worldwide. BU feels impelled to point out that this is but one of MANY similar delinquencies on the part of the Justice System and BU has chosen to pursue and highlight this one, because of the extensive reporting carried by BU on this particular issue in the past. However, BU readers are encouraged to report on similar cases where justice has been denied through delay. We will, as time permits, investigate and, where appropriate, report on these.

THE OMISSION OF LICENSED LEGAL PRACITIONERS IN THE OFFICIAL GAZETTE LIST: BU reported this matter on February 19, 2012. Included in the names of attorneys omitted from the list were Sir Frederick Smith Q.C., Mr Edmund King Q.C., Mr Maurice King Q.C., Lady Beverley Walrond Q.C., Mr Hal Gollop, Mr Vernon Smith Q.C. BU went on to report that several of the omitted attorneys had served notice on the Registrar of impending legal action against her for, among other things, defamation. There followed a robust discussion on BU in which, among other things, arguments were advanced (a) that no case could be brought against the Registrar and (b) that the Registrar had done nothing wrong and (c) it was even suggested that the omitted attorneys might not have paid their license fees. It may have escaped the attention of BUโ€™s readers, but shortly after our report, the Official Gazette published a new, corrected and complete list of licensed attorneys. Any suggestion that the Registrar did not in fact screw up is now settled. We are unable to discover if the Registrar has had the manners to apologise to the defamed attorneys. Given that ladyโ€™s record, we suspect NOT. Registrars and manners in Barbados appear to be strangers โ€“ a situation which visitors to the Registry will know (and attorneys will know better) infects that entire office.

STOKING THE TALES OF THE COURTS: Yet again BU issues a clarion call to all and sundry to keep their complaints about the courts and officers of courts coming. Click on this LINK to send your information. Rest assured as always anonymity will be respected.


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172 responses to “Tales From The COURTS – Part II”


  1. “BU wishes to advise that there is a scale of fees to which attorneys must adhere in matters of real property transactions in Barbados.”

    David my understanding has always been that the fees in that scale are the MINIMUM that an attorney may chage.


  2. @Nostradamus

    It also guides the nature of transactions lawyers may charge.


  3. In the first ‘Tale from the Courts’ it was stated that the CCJ would be descending on us in August. I think the words used were “to instruct the Registry and Judiciary on their obligations”. I cannot be sure about this since the ‘Tales’ post “cannot be found”. But I am sure that BU will re-issue that part of the post to correct me if necessary. The sense of the post was that it was necessary to do this because of our total incompetence – as this post says, because we have a “judicial system in terminal decline”.

    It all sounded odd to me, as also another member of the ‘BU household’ and so I undertook to find out more from my contacts in Trinidad. This was the response I received:-

    When the CCJ was in Bim it indicated to the Bench and Bar that it was willing to assist in training programmes on the new Civil Procedue Rules in particular. As yet there has been no concretisation of this idea that the informant is aware of. From time to time senior court staff of the CCJ does staff training at the sub-registries but the informant knows of no training programme for August. The BU post seems sensationalist. Even if a training programme is in the offing, there is nothing strange in that. Training is done throughout the region and beyond. There is presently a programme in Canada to assist Commonwealth judges.


  4. In the first post I asked what steps the present CJ had taken to date to lift our judicial system from its “terminal decline” and so restore its “credibility” and in what ways, to use the language of this post, his efforts were being frustrated by appointees from the previous administration.. I have just linked the first post through the link provided here and note that it asserts, inter alia, that this is being caused, in part, by the “bloody-mindedness” of the Bench.

    My quesion then was not answered because the post went off the radar. Since, courtesy of this post, it has popped up, will BU please now address my question. There is no need to talk in general terms about the Registry for we all know the problems there – but specifically what the CJ has actually done and how his work is being wilfully frustrated by the Bench or anyone else..

    I also asked what precisely the post meant by the CJ’s “revenge”. That was not answered either.


  5. @ Amused

    You make my case for me in respect of everything I said on BFP. You are totally without honour or credibility. Now make your ‘revelations’ known as widely as you will. in this post and I will answer you fully for all to see holding nothing back.


  6. @David. Are you aware that the CCJ has linked to BU? Many congratulations. That truly is a coup. Clearly the CCJ is reading the content of the reports and not the comments and attempted distractions and diversions of one RR.

    Are you also aware that RR, whom I now know as Red R*ssh*le, or “Red” for short, has commenced his own Tales From The Courts on another blog and has made the following statement thereon:

    โ€œOne other thing โ€“ I learned the other day what has probably been obvious to you for a long time. It is clear that there are BU people who make it their business to come on the BFP posts in order to ridicule. That is very sad. Some of them are lawyers, and really not very nice people, who seem now to enjoy โ€˜preferredโ€™ status on BU. On the other hand, there are others who come and are as constructive as any other and who DO use their BU names. The sabotteurs do not โ€“ but their style is unmistakeable..โ€

    I totally agree with Red, but only in so far as “style is unmistakeable” – the rest of it is rubbish, as it is inconceivable to me that members of the BU family would comment on a blog that is proven to habitually surrender the private details of its contributors – for $650 a week. But he is right on the subject of style – it is unmistakeable. So, I confidently expect Red to start adopting words of leave-taking like “Watch how you walk,” or “watch your back”, so favoured by the scions of Simmonsdom. Don’t worry, Red, we will. And do stop trying to monopolize and sabotage BU’s Tales From The Courts. It is unlikely to get you any more readers for your own version on that other blog.


  7. @robert

    Interesting comment copied from BFP but you are entitled.

    BU remains loyal to our sources, you are free however to apply your interpretation to matters reported here.

    Regarding your accusation that the first ‘Tales’ has disappeared from the blog you are incorrect. Not sure why you have difficulty scrolling down on the page.

    Finally you should find it instructive to do a search on BFP using the term ‘David Simmons’.


  8. @David. I don’t want to seem to press you, but the linking of BU by the CCJ is truly great. Many well-deserved congratulations. Also, very much enjoyed Part 2. I am pretty sure I know about the case with the attorney/MP. Your handling is spot on. Offer the chance to sort things out and, if it is not taken, attack!! After all, elections are in the offing and this sort of issue might easily be the kiss of death to the re-election hopes of this person.

    What really disgusts me is that in all these machinations of the courts and counsel, nowhere do they seem to even consider the CLIENT!!!!! The strain and pressure that they put the client under!!!!!! It is all about their short-sighted, tunnel-visioned amibitions and agendas and games, when it should be about the CLIENT, damn it.


  9. @Amused

    Many follow BU via social media feeds some prominent. It is good become it serves to pressure BU to be honest in our messages.

    We are hopeful that others who are in a position to contribute to the movement to improve our justice system will become emboldened by what we are trying to do and contribute to the cause.

  10. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Man like eva BLP ..in fa a tongue lashing..lol ..is all good..like ole poop..it duz wanna come out…fart away !


  11. @Nostradamus. Regarding the scale of fees for property transactions, these, especially ones that fall under the Tenantries Freehold Purchase Act, are relatively straightforward and most firms have a law clerk/legal assistant who deal with these, instead of the attorneys themselves. So, given the vast number of licensed attorneys in Barbados, why would someone of what can be supposed to be limited financial means, choose to pay any attorney fees above the scale for such a transaction? It isn’t a complex litigation, you know, but a standard transaction. And further, I believe that counsel has a duty to clients to make sure they know that there is scale of fees and what the scale is. Otherwise, they are indulging in a lack of transparency akin to sharp practices. I have a very big problem with that. It is conduct unbecoming a member of the Bar. It is usuary. Deplorable.


  12. @ David

    I did not ‘accuse’ you of suppressing the post. I said here that it had gone off the radar and made the same point in another post to you personally as you well know. Someone else had had the same experience.

    I note that Amused says that the CCJ has linked to BU. I know nothing of that, But it would not surprise me that the Court might just want to follow up the rubbish that is being perpetrated on here in its name – in this case the meeting with our judges that never was and and in the first ‘Tales from the Couirts’ the suggestion that they were coming here in August to teach us to suck eggs.. You may rest assured that I will continuie to expose nonsense of this kind through my contacts with CCJ senior personnel.

    And forgive me, I am sure I am not alone in linking Amused’s name with your own for the purposes of the ‘Tales’ I am aware that you have other blogging sleepers like Peter Williams and Keith Gilkes who shaft in their two-penneth. As for Amused, he is so keen to tell us how wonderful, amusing and witty the tales are that , given the reptillian character of the man, he really would seem to have had a hand in it.

    By the way, the fragment on Madame Justice Kentish might well have been writen by H Austin at his absolute worst.

    Now will you kindly address the questions I raised above in this post carried over from the last


  13. @ Amused

    Yes, it was you I suspected as the sabboteur on BFP. So I caste a fly and.predictably you jumped for it and so landed yourself flapping on the bank. By the way, if you are so concerned about clients, why is/was your fee rate an astronomic $400+ an hour?


  14. @robert

    You are welcome to continue to troll BU and as they say time will reveal all. What is written on BU can be refuted by those in the know at their convenience.

    In light of your comments elsewhere which have been brought to the attention of the BU family we have no choice but to treat you as a hostile commenter …lol.

    PS – You should go back and read what you read about not finding the link – ‘not found’.


  15. @ David

    You may of course treat me as ‘hostile’ since as a regular on here I am ‘one of your own’. But yes, I am hostile to village gossip and tittle tattle and the little tricks that some play on here. It damages the integrity of BU.

    Do you remember contributing to a post on December 12, 2010 on DS? You criticised his appointment which was in a sense understandable. But you also stated “BU is not questioning the reputation of David Simmons”. Do you want to say why BU has changed its policy and then move on and

    ANSWER MY QUESTIONS?


  16. @robert

    This is our last say on this matter to you. BU’s position has been explained several times. We have a problem landing compliments on Simmons and in 2012 the judiciary remains in a mess. The judiciary fell under under the purview of Simmons as AG and CJ for nearly 2 decades . He more than anyone has had the opportunity to change the system. Our criticism of his performance has nothing to do with Simmons the person ok?

    Anything posted on BU you are free to put your view, we don’t censor. Was the info about Mason’s appointment correct? What about when we first reported Gibson’s appointment? What about Tales 2 and the magguffy MP lawyer who feels he should treat people like dirt. More to come!


  17. @Red. I have never and I shall never, comment on BFP. Especially after David posted here on BU, some years ago, a copy of an e-mail sent from BFP under the moniker of one Marcus Davidoff, to Keltruth in which BFP provided Keltruth with the personal details of those who comment on BFP so that Keltruth could try to identify these people. Do you have any idea how demented you sound in suggesting that you cast a lure for someone to bite? And the suggestion that anyone might have bitten a lure by you displays an unhealthy and hallucinatory mental. Go and take your meds. You’ll feel much better and then they can take off the (small) straight jacket and you can continue to troll the blogs. Maybe even come across the one on BFP with the artwork of your friend, DS, wearing a bra and pearls and a twin set.


  18. @ David

    You had no difficulty landing a compliment on DS in 2010. His ‘reputation’ must include his reputation as Chief Justice. Your answer is an understandable ‘fudge’ which others may scrutinise.

    Let me say that I have no objection to the “Tales’. If I remember my only concern was that those attacked would not be in a poisiton to answer back. Of course BU got round this problem in relation to the accusations about Gollop email by posting it and then allowing the inner sanctum to attempt his canonisation. The whole thing was distasteful which is why I and othes pushed for the removal of the email. You did not remove the eulogies of course.

    Amused seems to be saying I have set myself up to rival the ‘Tales’. Nothing could be further from the truth. What concerns me is that so much of what is published here is gossip and half-truth and there is little opportunity to scrutinise the gossipers or, indeed, the other side. A classic example is the Kentish fragment. Much has been made of the delays in the courts’ system and BU has pointed the finger at DS as the culprit – which is absurd. It is rooted in a few on here who seek DS’s dismemberment because one of their own was not made Queen’s Counsel at a time when neither post-Call years of experience nor demonstrable ability were on his side. That person expected his friend DS to fix it for him. The judicial committee on these things thought otherwise.

    As a consequence, I thought it would be interesting to post actual cases of delay which I was privy to. I did so in two cases (now three). The idea was to get to the bottom of the delay concept in terms of how the system actually works – far more boring than grub street journalism I do agree. BFP liked the idea and turned my blog into a post. I did not know this would happen and I suppose I should have been asked. That having been said, I have no objection. One of the objcets is to demonstrate that the commonly held belief that atttorneys are responsible for delays to hike up fees is simply not warranted; any more than it is warranted to hold DS responsible for every glitch in the system.


  19. @ Amused

    You are totally schizoid. You bit…and posted. There is nothing more to say. You condemned yourself.


  20. BTW you seem on the mark on middle aged female stuff. Should we read anything into this? Do you shave your legs?


  21. God help those who attack the ‘establishment’.

    Would love to read feedback why the Jippy Doyle matter took seven years to reach verdict. His lawyer was Sir Johnny Cheltenham.


  22. @Amused

    Please lift the debate. If Robert wants to add value to the discussion but those reading don’t need to suffer through vacuous exchanges.


  23. @David. Do you recall me ever saying that my fee was $400 an hour? I wouldn’t have said that, because it is much higher. $400 is standard for the legal practitioner – a sort of average. But some charge less and some charge more.

    What always annoys me is any professional in any field who fails to, as far as possible, protect their clients from unecessary upset and stress, especially if you are the expert and they have specifically hired you to make things happen without undue upset to themselves. That is your obligation, in whatever field you work in.

    It is like the person who comes to the Registry to obtain a birth certificate or something like that, reads the directions on how to go about it, follows them and then is confronted by some ignoramous of an official who, having not read the directions, steupses and is rude and tells them that they have got it wrong and creates a lot of fuss and bother and delay, instead of being helpful and polite, which would cost them nothing. But that culture of thought and manners can ONLY come from the top and can only be allowed to continue by the people at the top. So the easiest way to cure it, is to get rid of and replace the top.


  24. I thnk we are all agreed on the manners-less and incompetence of Registry. But if I was a gardener I would say that you weed from the root not the top.


  25. @ David

    Do remember who started this thing. BUT in an effort to add “value” to the discussion would you (or someone) kindly address the questions I raised above.

    I suspect the fragments raised in the post don’t leave much room for ‘value’ since to most people they would appear rather arcane. But hopefully, I’ll be proved wrong.


  26. I have just noticed that the ‘Lawyer-MP’ fragment is seemingly covered substantially from the client’s perspective on BFP. Is there anything seriously wrong in naming names at this point? This not on the principle that ‘God should help those who attack the establishment’ but rather on the principle that “God helps those who help themselves’.


  27. @ David and Amused
    ….don’t you folks recognize an idiot when you come upon one?
    …and dont you know better than to entertain such a person… ? ….Especially when really serious discussions are in progress?
    That is BFP’s niche….

    Really!
    How is it possible for such senior and highly paid ‘professionals’ to perform so consistently poorly and unethically without censure…?

    Perhaps such exposure on BU is just what the CJ needs in order to support his needed reforms. Thisnmay well be the best catylist for change that we have ever had in this country.

    More is needed.


  28. David.
    Your inaugural statement mentioned staffers from the past administration are hampering the new CJ. Your language “a Chief Justice whose efforts to correct this are being constantly obstructed and frustrated by appointees from a previous administration”. Let’s be realistic, all CJs have a leaning to a political party and that is the sole reason the Governing party will target a specific individual when a vacancy arrive. However, in the case when a past administration leaves, the CJ will have to adjust to the new administration. This is a clear case with the last CJ and DT refused to extend his welcome. What the new CJ has to do is insist the AG get amendments enact in the lower house without delay. It is time the blaming games stop.


  29. @David. Agreed. Will now completely ignore any attempt to sidetrack and divert. The issue is too important. I ought to just have addressed the issues, which I actually believe that I have done, but ignored trolls. Mea culpa. But it amused me just the same.

    I have known since 2010 about the Kentish action, although not many of the details and I think you have reported just as much as you should and I would not suggest going any further at this stage. I have since managed to rectify my lack of complete knowledge of this case. I can confirm that the facts you have reported are true and correct.

    It is sensational enough when a High Court judge is sued, not for the execution of her office (which you cannot do anyway) but for failure to execute that office (which you can do). I can understand the reluctance of some members of the Bench to have the case run its course, as it does expose some of them (quite a lot of them) to similar actions. Also, if such a case goes against that High Court judge, there really is no option but to convene a commission under the Constitution with a view to having them removed. No option at all. Not if you want to have any credibility in either the judiciary or the executive. But, the state of the courts, the denial of justice through delay etc., makes this both necessary and appropriate and not before time either. To subject a case of such importance to meritless delays indicates a completely unacceptable cover-up and, rather than increasing confidence in the judiciary, does the opposite. Bluntly, it looks like corruption.

    On the Deane/Knox case, well, what can I say. It is not the only one like that by any means and it is a judicial scandal that, after waiting 6 years for a hearing, it is adjourned part-heard for a further three years. And if it were to continue tomorrow, you are still looking at more years for a decision and while the appeals process is exhausted. Therefore, a case that should have been determined, appeals and all, within four years of filing, will end up by taking 15 years plus at the present rate of the courts. Meanwhile interest is running at 8%. It is totally unjust to BOTH sides and it brings the Barbados courts into further disrepute.

    But, be aware that there is another aspect to the Deane/Knox case. BU reported exhaustively on the Ontario action associated with this matter and I was shocked and interested enough to follow it closely. I was surprised to hear when the CCJ sat in Barbados that there is a similar action before the courts of Florida. On the speculative premise (and I do not say that this is how things will happen) that Deane wins his case, Knox is effectively prevented from using her interest in Kingsland as grounds for further actions.

    You correctly say that these actions started by Knox are multitudinous and, to date, Knox has lost them all. If I were involved, I would really have to look at the viability having her declared a vexatious litigant by the Barbados courts. I express my surprise that this has not been done yet, especially as some of these actions are clearly res judicata (already tried and decided).

    As for the list of licensed legal practitioners, I am told, but have not had sight of it, that the Registrar wrote to some of the affected counsel in an agressive manner refusing cooperation and correction. However, clearly someone wiser than she with an eye to the undoubted and large damages that would have had to have been paid by the public purse, caused the Official Gazette to be corrected.


  30. @amused

    Lord have mercy, you continue to impress me with you presentation skills, where you learn them from? yah think yah could teach me and Robert Ross or lemuel?


  31. To David:
    I have to side squarely with you in this instance. If all of these horrid things were going on, one can not put the blame at the new CJ door. David Simmons would have to answer a few questions and by virtue of his more than ten years overseeing the system take a whole set of the blame for the mess which continues today.


  32. @Blogger2012. Yuh too bad.


  33. @Lemuel

    lord you agreeing with amused, are these signs of the times. but you sure u aint trrying to confuse me. Glas to see u r still with us.

    @Amused

    We have to digress at times to bring little humour here, we are one blogging family sharing different perspectives.

    @Ac
    Still here with yah cant decide on a new name yet.


  34. Note that BU presented the matter of the issue with the MP lawyer in a way which sought to protect the party who requested anonymity. It is the way we do things in the BU household.


  35. @ David

    This post is rooted in a premise and that is that the present CJ, despite all he has done, is being wifully stimied by history, the present judges and others.

    Given the premise, I do not see how to ask

    1. what has this CJ actually done, and

    2. who is trying to frustrate him and how

    can possibly be called side-tracking.

    Of course I do see that those such as Tea, Amused and Blogger will want to side-step the questions. It does not suit their purpose, their agenda, the unproven nonsense they perpetually perpetrate. But you David? This is actually about your credibilty and that of BU. The post makes certain assumptions, assumes certain things. The little ‘tales’ have little to do with the premises and yet are hung upon them to corroborate what is presented as a self-evident truth. Blogger is an expert on logic. It is called ‘question begging’ or ‘pulling yourself up by the bootstraps’. Mind I doubt dear Blogger knows the difference between a syllogism and simple enumeration. They can all sneer and jib as much as they like. The fallacy, which is there for all to see, still confronts you. So now – is it for the fifth time – will you answer? Or will you also share in their chilldish and gutless antics?

    Actually, consider this. Apart from the ‘usual suspects’, which includes me, who IS REALLY interested in this post?.


  36. @ Lemuel

    LOL. Apparently we are schizoid.


  37. Robert Ross said:

    “There is no need to talk in general terms about the Registry for we all know the problems there โ€“ but specifically what the CJ has actually done and how his work is being wilfully frustrated by the Bench or anyone else.”

    I am actually curious about this as well. What has the new CJ done so far?

    Specifically, I would like to know why he hasnโ€™t implemented a system of scheduling hearings at specific times.

    I have always abhorred the system of scheduling 15 applications for the same time and having people wait for their matter to be called in sequential order (or sometimes in order of seniority). In other jurisdictions, hearings are by appointment. So for example, a single application is scheduled to be heard at a specific time. The time needed for the application is estimated and clearly stated in the notice of application. So when the attorneys show up for the scheduled time they know that they will be in court from 10 to 11 or from 12 to 1.

    Under the current system, you go in the morning and potentially wait until afternoon before you are called. That is an untenable situation.


  38. @ Anonlegal

    Absolutely right. I witnessed an example of it today. In ‘my’ example, the issue was compounded by Registry not listing the case for the judge.


  39. I know of one jurisdiction up north where in some precincts, not only is hearing done by appointment, it lasts 15 minutes only …… there are 30 minute slots as well if the lawyers feel thay need more time!!

    This forces lawyers to minimise the information put before a judge and to be as precise as possible in what is being requested

    ….. histrionics are wasted in that system although I am sure there are characters as well

    …. and perjury is frowned upon.

    When your time is up out goes you ……. perhaps with an earfull from the court about wasting time and not sticking to the script presented ahead of time.

    Not too many Bajan lawyers could survive in such an environment.

    I spent the day talking about rats so I guess I should talk about something else for a change!!


  40. One of the well known games that lawyers play is, in the face of substantial evidence in a capital matter against their client, to raise concerns of a relatively trivial nature- but with such verbosity and forcefulness that regular mortals (and BFP regulars) are lured to dispel with the substantive capital matter while conceding defeat in the trivial….

    But this is BU….

    The whole point of raising this issue and of elevating it to the “tales from the courts..” has been the dismal, shameful and ongoing poor quality of performance of our justice system.

    True, a few lawyers have been charged for stealing clients’ monies
    …true, the CCJ has repeatedly tried to shame them into action
    …true – strong and controversial steps were taken to impose new outside leadership into the system

    BUT the rot clearly continues…

    How the hell does questions about instituting an appointment system get to be top of the list of concerns at this stage…?

    that is so basic and fundamental an issue that it raises questions in Bushie’s mind about the intellectual capacity of those who have gone before…. And even about those who would think that it is the most pressing issue now…

    Listen.

    ..When the hell are we going to see about six of those asses fired?

    ..when will we see the large and generally known pack of crooked lawyers who are illegally taking people’s money and property from them – sent to Dodds?

    When will justice be dispensed in some kind of time frames before the oppressed has died?

    When will we see a system where complaints against members of this scourge on our society taken seriously and acted upon?

    What is the chance that the ‘Sir’ involved in the Cumberbatch case highlighted recently on BU will be brought to account?

    ..if RR and anon legal can deal with issues such as these they will be of assistance…. Else we will be happy to come over to BFP to review your children’s games when all else fails…. So take it over there…


  41. BT

    It will be the simple rules and procedures that will catch the culprits you so yearn to see caught.

    Catching them is actually just like child’s play.

    It takes a child to see the conflicts which big able adults are too afraid to verbalise …. remember your fairy tales …. The Emperor’s New Clothes!!.

    The problem is the simple rules and procedures have been bypassed by all of we who call ourselves adults.

    The adults among us lack the child like courage to stand up and be counted.

    Just takes a few good men and women to stick to simple principles learnt as children and all the louts you want caught will be caught … or they will just fade into oblivion because they won’t dare operate.

    It is as simple as that.

    Stick to principles, rules and procedures and the offenders will come out (or be forced out) in the wash!!!


  42. @ John
    Your bedtime passed….lol

    What simple rules and regulations what?!?
    …so that RR can start a new charade about petty details about the application of those rules and regulations?

    All that is required is to ACT against the OBVIOUS WICKEDNESS THAT IS CURRENTLY OBVIOUS.

    We don’t need any new rules to do that… Just some pressure applied to the imbeciles who currently have the authority, the pay, the perks and the title to do EXACTLY that…. But who have not the BALLS or the moral uprightness to be so minded…

    …So David of BU will apply the necessary pressure to replace the missing balls – so we can get some action. ๐Ÿ™‚ ….if only RR would move his behind out of the way…


  43. @Bush Tea

    It is disgusting what is the state of our justice system at the moment. BU remembers the head of the T&T Law Society delivering an address at a Bar Association dinner in 2010 and mentioning the parlous state of the judiciary in the Caribbean and pointing to lawyers to take a look in the mirror.

    We blogged about it:

    http://bajan.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/barbados-legal-fraternity-told-to-think-outside-the-box-by-one-of-their-own/

    and there was the Nation newspaper report:

    http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/meet-issues-as-a-group/

    What is happening here is a known problem but then we have the defenders of the status quo.


  44. As long as political parties are allowed to successfully run candidates who are members of the fraternity, nothing will change. There at least six new ones vying for office …

    VOTE INDEPENDENT or not at all … And most certainly DO NOT VOTE FAH NA LAWYER nida …!


  45. A BUSH TEA………mouthing into the air about moral uprightness and obvious wickedness, bemoaning balls long lost

    An AMUSED…….his friend…….charging in excess of $400.00 an hour and championing clients

    and a
    ‘DAVID’……..silence when asked for TRUTH.

    This BRAVE NEW WORLD of BU. Thank God we’re in safe hands.


  46. @Bushie. Man you are on fire. I agree. The Rules are there, but unfortunately few, including the judges, seem to have taken the time to read them. Well said, Bushie.

    @John. Actually over and away, it is not quite as you say. What happens is that lawyers decide amongst themselves how much time they will require to present their cases. They so advise the Court. The lawyers then produce “Factums”, which are statements of fact and law, file them with the court and on each other. The judge will read the Factums and then make a determination on how much time to allocate to hearing the case. These Factums are extensive documents, unlike the briefs that are produced in Barbados. So, really the judge is fully briefed and is in the position to determine how much assistance he needs from counsel and how long it will take to receive it.

    The difference is that when lawyers go before the judge, the judge has actually read the Factums, read the case file, had his clerical staff do their own research and is ready to go. He will not have reached any conclusions, because the evidence then presented needs to lead him to these conclusions and he will tend to view the counsel as experts there to assist him, from each differing point of view.

    In addition, any pre-trial motions, unless they are very complicated, are heard by the judge usually by telephone conference call with all the lawyers (and usually very early in the morning – sometimes as early as 7 am) and decided, usually there and then, on the motion. The judge’s decisions on motions are handwritten on a “style of cause”, which we would call a backing sheet, and faxed or scanned by e-mail to each lawyer.

    The ground rules are set and an extraneous evidence excluded (in limine) by pre-trial motion. A cut-off date is set for the filing and hearing of all pre-trial motions.

    Also, affidavit evidence allows for cross-examination of the persons swearing the affidavits. These cross-examinations take place, not in court, but at private firms of court reporters. Transcripts of these cross-examinations are filed with the court and read by the judge, the judge having already heard counsel and ruled on the scope of these cross-examinations – usually by phone. So, all that is left is for the judges to hear from the lawyers about the merits of their respective cases.

    Most importantly, the judges themselves have reviewed the rules and the relevant law before counsel comes before them in court. They will not allow counsel to stray. So, yes, in those circumstances it is possible to stick to a timetable for the actual court hearings.

    If, in the judge’s opinion, the case merits more time, they will have their clerk contact each lawyer to check their availability against the judge’s schedule and a date will be set for no more than weeks after the adjournment.

    Then, once the judge is satisfied that they have received as much assistance as they require from counsel, they go away and write their decision and it is rare that any decision takes longer than 4 weeks to be handed down.

    So, all the motions are dealt with before you actually physically come before the judge in court. Usually by telephone by way of conference call.

    In Barbados, you waste endless time arguing motions when you come to court before the actual case starts. Briefs to the judge are just that, brief. No ground rules to exclude extraneous arguments and irrelevant evidence are pre-set and the judges have not read the case files, don’t know the law involved, have done no preparation, have not read or understood the rules and adjourn the hearing to consider motions while they take their own sweet time getting up to speed on simple matters of law that should be at their finger tips.

    The evidence of this is glaring and undeniable. For how else would it be possible for a case to be scheduled, everyone, including the judge, to be present in court and then for the case to be adjourned, because – the Registry can’t find the file? If they cannot find the file, it means that the judge has not received the file which means that the judge has not even done the basic preparation of reading the file. Which means that the judge has no idea of what the hell the case is about, what areas of law need to be looked at, what rules are likely to come into play – NOTHING!!!!!

    And the taxpayers are paying these jokers for this.

    The result in so far as the clients are concerned, over and away, is much reduced legal fees. Lawyers fees are based on an hourly billing rate. The more experienced the lawyer, the higher the rate – but that equals out, because the more experienced the lawyer, the less time they have to spend on research, prep etc. And both sides communicate with each other by e-mail, so there is a paper trail. If one side wants to introduce evidence to which they think the other side might object, they will discuss it with the other side and, if there is a dispute, then they ask for a telephone conference call with the judge, in preparation for which, they file motion materials so when the judge joins them on the phone, the judge is prepared and the call usually takes no more than 5 minutes. So the lawyers bill their clients for 5 minutes of their respective hourly billing rates and, of couse, the time of preparation of the motion materials. They do NOT spend HOURS arguing before the judge in court and seeing the case adjourned for MONTHS while the judge ponders usually basic matters of law and evidence, because the judge has done no prep at all or even read the file which the Registry cannot find in any case.

    And if it so happens, over and away, that the judge misplaces the file, never mind. Because the file has been scanned to comupter and stored by the Registry and the judge can opt to either read it on his computer screen, or ask his assistant to print him off a copy.

    The excuse that the file cannot be found would simply not arise. COULD not arise.

    So what has Chief Justice Gibson done? By his very conduct on the Bench he has set a standard by which all other judges must measure themselves. Fully prepared, control of his court, no time wasting. And POLITE always. Mason and Beckles are the same and in the case of Mason, because she is prepared, it allows her to give rein to her sense of humour which also lightens (but does not detract from) the process.

    But Gibson has done more than that. And, as soon as a few obstructive heads roll in both judiciary and Registry with the support of the executive, I feel confident that he will give us a justice system of which we can be proud.


  47. “Was the info about Masonโ€™s appointment correct? What about when we first reported Gibsonโ€™s appointment? What about Tales 2 and the magguffy MP lawyer who feels he should treat people like dirt. More to come!”
    it had to be correct because it was inside information.


  48. man Robert Ross, you is Bushie’s friend too…. Not only Amused….It is just that you have clothes hung out to dry and you looking for rain.

    Bushie could speak intimately about the justice system in Bim, and there is not a lot of good that can, in honesty, be said.
    BAJANS DESERVE BETTER…… Hell man, even YOU deserve better Ross.

    Probably the VERY WORSE legacy left by Owen Arthur, has been his blatant disregard for insisting on high quality MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE from people he appointed to positions. Appointments were largely POLITICAL in nature, designed (successfully) to ensure his long tenure, but with NO regard to performance. We all suffered as a result….even him.

    It was not only the CJ.
    in the Service we have seen the worse permanent secretaries in living memory; in the police force – questionable appointments; in the army; in the various ministries etc.
    …his poor record in this regard has only been challenged by Mia, whose criteria for appointments appeared to have been guided by a very personal bias…..

    THESE NON PERFORMERS NEED TO BE MOVED, starting at the top in each case. This is why the courts are of immediate interest. A CHANGE WAS ACCOMPLISHED AT THE TOP. There is some hope…

    had the DLP set some standards for performance from the start and enforced them, they would have been in a whole different position at this time…..

    @ Caswell…. Our Coop revolution is the ONLY HOPE for this place.. You must see that by now….


  49. Amused

    In a nutshell all you are saying is there are rules, follow them but in 10X the words necessary.

    …. and this is how the mess gets started and propogated, an over effluence of words.

    I would not trust anyone who needs to convey so simple a message if they need too many words.

    As I understand it ……

    1. There is nothing new in the legal system.

    2. Everything is based on precedents and rules.

    3. Just do the ff…..ing job you are assigned to do.

    4. The only creativity required is in the use of techniques and technologies to be more efficient …..

    …….. and even those exist and can be easily learnt from practitioners in other more advanced jurisdictions.


  50. Amused

    I is a man that don’ read past three paragraphs of anything pun a blog, too much information, but that piece that you put up dey I had to save in a separate text file for future reference. I glad that Ross come roun’ hey, he forcing you to deliver at a level that is palatable. I ain’ na friend, but that piece deserve credit. Well done!

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